Re: svn commit: r1666030 - /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/foundation/policies/privacy.mdtext
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Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)
Here's the session that my colleague is proposing for the mobile track. I don't want to add it myself as a) it's not my track and b) Eric is a work colleague (we may have Parashu as a co-presenter, he's a Cordova committer but may not be available) Cordova: Are Universal Apps enough? Universal Apps are the promise of applications that can easy run on any Windows device, but is that enough? How about running on any Windows device as well as any mobile device regardless of operating system? Cordova is an excellent example of cross platform technology. Cordova is also THE example of Universal App enabler. During this session we will demonstrate what "Universal App" means in the context of Cordova. We will look at tooling that can be used to deliver on the Cordova vision of Universal App (and Cross Platform) paradigm. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:54 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 I'm working on ensuring it will be an excellent talk. My concern will be erased if I can talk Chris Douglas (Hadoop PMC Chair) to participate ;-) I'll share the abstract for review. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:46 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. > > I do have a session from the HD insight team here at MS which would focus on > Hadoop on Linux on Azure and our experience working with the ASF and the > Hadoop ecosystem specifically. (HD Insight is Microsofts Hadoop based big > data service). I'm a little concerned about just dropping that in given that > it might appear self-serving. > > Am I being too cautious? Probably. ;-) Do you think it will be an excellent talk, that people will want to (pay to, travel to) attend? That's really the only thing I'm concerned about. --Rich > > Ross > > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:12 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > > > On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a >> colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova >> with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being >> confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any >> others the track chair would like. >> >> For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? >> I'll find the replacement for that. >> > > > > Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive at > Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" > > >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM >> To: dev >> Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 >> >> Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to >> cancellations. >> >> Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two >> in "Content". and one in "Mobile" >> >> If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know >> what >> talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in >> touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know >> what we're working with. >> >> Thanks. >> >> --Rich >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - >> @apachecon >> > > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, Rich Bowen wrote: Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" If you could let me know which ones in Content we have lost, and also which spreadsheet / google doc I can check to see what talks remain unclaimed, then I'll take a look at Content. (Well, assuming we've already used up the standby talks that were selected for the track?) Nick
RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
I'm working on ensuring it will be an excellent talk. My concern will be erased if I can talk Chris Douglas (Hadoop PMC Chair) to participate ;-) I'll share the abstract for review. Ross Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:46 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. > > I do have a session from the HD insight team here at MS which would focus on > Hadoop on Linux on Azure and our experience working with the ASF and the > Hadoop ecosystem specifically. (HD Insight is Microsofts Hadoop based big > data service). I'm a little concerned about just dropping that in given that > it might appear self-serving. > > Am I being too cautious? Probably. ;-) Do you think it will be an excellent talk, that people will want to (pay to, travel to) attend? That's really the only thing I'm concerned about. --Rich > > Ross > > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:12 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > > > On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: >> I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a >> colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova >> with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being >> confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any >> others the track chair would like. >> >> For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? >> I'll find the replacement for that. >> > > > > Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive at > Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" > > >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM >> To: dev >> Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 >> >> Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to >> cancellations. >> >> Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two >> in "Content". and one in "Mobile" >> >> If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know >> what >> talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in >> touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know >> what we're working with. >> >> Thanks. >> >> --Rich >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - >> @apachecon >> > > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. I do have a session from the HD insight team here at MS which would focus on Hadoop on Linux on Azure and our experience working with the ASF and the Hadoop ecosystem specifically. (HD Insight is Microsofts Hadoop based big data service). I'm a little concerned about just dropping that in given that it might appear self-serving. Am I being too cautious? Probably. ;-) Do you think it will be an excellent talk, that people will want to (pay to, travel to) attend? That's really the only thing I'm concerned about. --Rich Ross -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:12 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any others the track chair would like. For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? I'll find the replacement for that. Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive at Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM To: dev Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to cancellations. Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know what we're working with. Thanks. --Rich -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 05:03 PM, jan i wrote: Rich@ do you want me to pull the current schedule and see if I can find a couple of talks to waitlist. That would probably be helpful. Maybe we could get Craig to cross reference the registrations with the speakers of non-selected talks. That would be potential wait-list candidates (after a confirmation mail). There may be people that could attend if they had a talk accepted. (Like, $boss will pay if you have a talk, but not otherwise, kind of thing.) -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. > > I do have a session from the HD insight team here at MS which would focus > on Hadoop on Linux on Azure and our experience working with the ASF and the > Hadoop ecosystem specifically. (HD Insight is Microsofts Hadoop based big > data service). I'm a little concerned about just dropping that in given > that it might appear self-serving. > > Am I being too cautious? If my opinion counts, it would be ok especially if they focus on the part "working with the ASF and the Hadoop ecosystem", we might all learn something from that good and bad. Rich@ do you want me to pull the current schedule and see if I can find a couple of talks to waitlist. Maybe we could get Craig to cross reference the registrations with the speakers of non-selected talks. That would be potential wait-list candidates (after a confirmation mail). rgds jan i > > Ross > > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com ] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:12 PM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > > > On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > > I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed > that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on > Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe > currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider > along with any others the track chair would like. > > > > For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? > I'll find the replacement for that. > > > > > > Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive > at Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com ] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM > > To: dev > > Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > > > Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up > due to cancellations. > > > > Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", > two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" > > > > If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what > > talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in > touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know > what we're working with. > > > > Thanks. > > > > --Rich > > > > -- > > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. I do have a session from the HD insight team here at MS which would focus on Hadoop on Linux on Azure and our experience working with the ASF and the Hadoop ecosystem specifically. (HD Insight is Microsofts Hadoop based big data service). I'm a little concerned about just dropping that in given that it might appear self-serving. Am I being too cautious? Ross -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:12 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a > colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with > some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being > confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any others > the track chair would like. > > For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? I'll > find the replacement for that. > Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive at Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM > To: dev > Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to > cancellations. > > Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two > in "Content". and one in "Mobile" > > If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what > talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in > touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know > what we're working with. > > Thanks. > > --Rich > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 03:13 PM, jan i wrote: On 11 March 2015 at 20:05, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any others the track chair would like. A Cordova talk more would be good. For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? I'll find the replacement for that. Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM To: dev Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to cancellations. Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" How does this affect our waiting list ? I believe that as of now our waiting list has been erased, but I will check as soon as I get a second. -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 11 March 2015 at 20:05, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that > a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova > with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being > confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any > others the track chair would like. > A Cordova talk more would be good. > > For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? > I'll find the replacement for that. > > Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. > A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM > To: dev > Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 > > Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due > to cancellations. > > Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", > two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" > How does this affect our waiting list ? rgds jan i. > > If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what > talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in > touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know > what we're working with. > > Thanks. > > --Rich > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - > @apachecon >
Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any others the track chair would like. For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? I'll find the replacement for that. Looks like it was "Letters from the Trenches: Behind the scenes with Hive at Yahoo: Mithun Radhakrishnan" -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM To: dev Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to cancellations. Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know what we're working with. Thanks. --Rich -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any others the track chair would like. For the "Big Data; Big Picture" one which is it that has been cancelled? I'll find the replacement for that. Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:57 AM To: dev Subject: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to cancellations. Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know what we're working with. Thanks. --Rich -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
[ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2
Craig has mentioned me that we have several slots that have opened up due to cancellations. Looks to me that we have two in Science, one in "Big Data; Big Picture", two in "Content". and one in "Mobile" If you have any insight into any of these areas, please let me know what talk(s) you think we should swap in for those missing talks. Just get in touch with me and I'll send you what remains of the track, so that you know what we're working with. Thanks. --Rich -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: GitHub Pages
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:55 PM, David Nalley wrote: > SSL > Specifically - apache.org sites are in https-everywhere. Those sites > can't provide SSL. > > Yeah, I've been trying to think of how to deal with that. The only thing I could think of is if GitHub offered server-certs for the sub-domains it hosts (which they don't) or if we could provide one for them to use for the sub-domain (which there is no mechanism to do that with). > None of the current TLP web sites are being served from Apache > hardware though - it's all VMs in 2-3 different cloud providers. > > I figured it was something like that. > --David > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Mike Kienenberger > wrote: > > The github pages I've worked on have all been in Markdown, so they're > portable. > > > > I also don't see any reason why we can't host pages elsewhere since we > > control the source repositories. > To satisfy SSL needs, it seems we'd probably have to do that anyway. It'd be nice if we could stand up similar rendering service as an alternative to CMS (or even if CMS could be altered to use a git branch). If it were GH-compatible, that'd be best, because people could test/stage in their personal forks if they wish. Alternatively, this service could render a staging site from a different branch. I'm sure such a service would be very low priority right now (CMS is working well enough). > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > > wrote: > >> Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache > hardware? If so, why? > >> > >> I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we > really need to own web server? > >> > >> A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we > could not easily switch to another host. > >> > I share this concern. I wonder if there's already a GH-compatible rendering service out in the open source which would be easy enough to deploy. > >> Ross > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:40 AM > >> To: dev@community.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: GitHub Pages > >> > >> Chris, > >> > >> The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being > served by apache controlled hardware. > >> > >> Github serving pages fails that test. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher > wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all > >>> > of the site storage on apache servers. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned > >>> that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, > >>> wouldn't that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? > >>> > >>> > >>> > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io > >>> > based sites even with site name masquerading. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. > >>> > >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone > >>> > > >>> > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true > >>> > > that > >>> > you > >>> > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. > >>> > > >>> >
Re: GitHub Pages
SSL Specifically - apache.org sites are in https-everywhere. Those sites can't provide SSL. None of the current TLP web sites are being served from Apache hardware though - it's all VMs in 2-3 different cloud providers. --David On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: > The github pages I've worked on have all been in Markdown, so they're > portable. > > I also don't see any reason why we can't host pages elsewhere since we > control the source repositories. > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) > wrote: >> Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? >> If so, why? >> >> I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really >> need to own web server? >> >> A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could >> not easily switch to another host. >> >> Ross >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:40 AM >> To: dev@community.apache.org >> Subject: Re: GitHub Pages >> >> Chris, >> >> The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being served >> by apache controlled hardware. >> >> Github serving pages fails that test. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all >>> > of the site storage on apache servers. >>> > >>> > >>> I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned >>> that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, >>> wouldn't that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? >>> >>> >>> > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io >>> > based sites even with site name masquerading. >>> > >>> > >>> Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. >>> >>> >>> > Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true >>> > > that >>> > you >>> > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. >>> > >>>
Re: GitHub Pages
The github pages I've worked on have all been in Markdown, so they're portable. I also don't see any reason why we can't host pages elsewhere since we control the source repositories. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? > If so, why? > > I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really > need to own web server? > > A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could > not easily switch to another host. > > Ross > > -Original Message- > From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:40 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: GitHub Pages > > Chris, > > The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being served > by apache controlled hardware. > > Github serving pages fails that test. > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >> > >> > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all >> > of the site storage on apache servers. >> > >> > >> I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned >> that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, >> wouldn't that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? >> >> >> > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io >> > based sites even with site name masquerading. >> > >> > >> Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. >> >> >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: >> > > >> > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true >> > > that >> > you >> > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. >> > >>
Re: GitHub Pages
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache > hardware? If so, why? > > I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really > need to own web server? > I am mostly echoing what I have heard here. But ... > A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could > not easily switch to another host. > This is definitely a big deal and a non-trivial effort. If we had dozens of projects on GH and they went down/changed business model, I could imagine weeks to months of outage as a result.
Re: GitHub Pages
On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Chris, > > The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being > served by apache controlled hardware. Is that right ? Or is it more an issue of keeping the source under ASF canonical repo ? > > Github serving pages fails that test. > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >>> >>> I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all of >>> the site storage on apache servers. >>> >>> >> I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned that >> GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, wouldn't >> that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? >> >> >>> There have been objections in this thread about using github.io based >>> sites even with site name masquerading. >>> >>> >> Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. >> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true that >>> you need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. >>> >>
RE: GitHub Pages
Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? If so, why? I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really need to own web server? A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could not easily switch to another host. Ross -Original Message- From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:40 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: GitHub Pages Chris, The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being served by apache controlled hardware. Github serving pages fails that test. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > > > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all > > of the site storage on apache servers. > > > > > I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned > that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, > wouldn't that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? > > > > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io > > based sites even with site name masquerading. > > > > > Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: > > > > > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true > > > that > > you > > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. > > >
Re: GitHub Pages
Chris, The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being served by apache controlled hardware. Github serving pages fails that test. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > > > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all of > > the site storage on apache servers. > > > > > I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned that > GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, wouldn't > that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also? > > > > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io based > > sites even with site name masquerading. > > > > > Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher wrote: > > > > > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true that > > you > > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also. > > >
Re: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org
Le mardi 10 mars 2015 13:32:26 Rich Bowen a écrit : > On 03/06/2015 11:52 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > I'd like for us to go ahead and replace projects.apache.org with > > projects-new.apache.org. It now has all the functionality that > > projects.a.o has, and much more, and there's no reason to have two sites > > up. If you object to moving forward with this, please say so. > > > > [ ] +1, do it > > [ ] +0, whatevs > > [ ] -1, No (and say why, so we can address the problem) > > I'm going to call this a "yes" vote overall, with a few nits +1 one more thing: when we switch projects-new to projects, it would be useful to have old projects switched to projects-old, since there are still parts that are useful or to be integrated to the new site (see Feeds, DOAP Files and Documentation sections) > that have been addressed. -1 I sent patches but they were not applied > Thank you all for your thoughts. Thanks, Daniel, for > your work on this. And with all the folks that have said they'll get > checkouts and hack on it, we should have much wonderment real soon. Can I get commit access (without being PMC member)? I'd like to add an "about" folder equivalent to https://projects.apache.org/references.html, and with a reference to http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#comdev Notice: shouldn't comdev be added to projects-new as 6th "special committee"? Regards, Hervé > > --Rich
