Re: Lightning talks

[Roman Shaposhnik]

can we do Penn & Teller routine? ;-)

Thanks,
Roman.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> Sure... I'll need a co-host :)
>
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you willing 
>> to be the Lightning Talks MC? (Wednesday evening, after Andy Terrel's 
>> keynote.)
>>
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Discussion on ComDev has cleared up the confusion. Jim, you and I are on point. 
There's a mail in your inbox and we will report through ComDev.

Ross


-Original Message-
From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:50 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Apache Board
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??) for us, to 
replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch, since David was best to 
know what exactly we needed and what the division of labor should be.

If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to take this up 
again.

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
> 
> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both 
> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on 
> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
> news since then.
> 
> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>> 
>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make 
>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
>> quarter.
>> 
>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with 
>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already 
>> (I'm not sure of the current status).
>> 
>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services 
>> provided by external companies)
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
>> Corporation
>> 
>> 

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Jim Jagielski]

Yes, Roberto offered to have SF host an Apache Neighborhood (??)
for us, to replace Apache-Extras. I put he and David in touch,
since David was best to know what exactly we needed and what
the division of labor should be.

If David lacks the time to follow-up, I very much volunteer to
take this up again.

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
> 
> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we 
> were told that Jim,
> Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked 
> for feedback on a proof
> of concept, no news since then.
> 
> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>> 
>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure 
>> that progress on this
>> is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.
>> 
>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
>> SourceForge, they have offered
>> neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring 
>> options for download
>> provision already (I'm not sure of the current status).
>> 
>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by 
>> external companies)
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>> 
>> 

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Right, thanks David, I'm not sure where this confusion came from but it is 
cleared up now.

Let me ping Jim and Roberto offlist and we'll have something concrete to get to 
Uli in the next report.

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:16 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

Infra doesn't use extras, or even administer it, so it seems strange for us to 
have a stake in decision making. We are happy to help facilitate the move (and 
hence our involvement thus far).

On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it 
> to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective.
>
> Ross
>
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>
> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev 
> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've 
> done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made.
>
> --David
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < 
> ross.gard...@microsoft.com > wrote:
> > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these 
> > folks have shown interest ;-)
> >
> > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
> >
> > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)
> >
> > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under 
> > the
> impression you were actively part of a group driving this.
> >
> > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Uli
> >
> > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> >> Moving board@ to BCC
> >>
> >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope 
> >> it wasn't me!)
> >>
> >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I 
> >> don't know how actively but it is now a priority.
> >>
> >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
> >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing 
> >> his
> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
> >> Corporation
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk 
> >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
> >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org  Cc:
> bo...@apache.org 
> >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
> >>
> >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both 
> >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working 
> >> on it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of
> concept, no news since then.
> >>
> >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Uli
> >>
> >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 
> >>> 25,
> 2016.
> >>>
> >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please 
> >>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board 
> >>> report
> each quarter.
> >>>
> >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
> >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, 
> >>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download 
> >>> provision
> already (I'm not sure of the current status).
> >>>
> >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services 
> >>> provided by external companies)
> >>>
> >>> Ross
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
> >>> Corporation
> >>>
> >>>
>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[jan i]

On 12 March 2015 at 23:08, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects
> apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very
> long time - has that changed?
>
No it has not changed, but maybe I did not use the right words.

Our primary binaries (the executable) for "real" endusers are downloaded
from SF, but we have plenty of stuff on apache_extra (ooo extras)  which
can be and are downloaded. Currently most of ooo_extras are targeted at
developers and not end-users, and especially that part of our community is
something we do not want to hurt.

rgds
jan i.





> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:06 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>
> On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>
> > On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote:
> >
> >> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several
> >> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also
> >> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there).  But things have
> >> gone quiet for about 2 months.  There was a second prototype that
> >> looked pretty good (to us).  But, I don't know the state of things now.
> >>
> >
> > It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We
> > are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/
> > in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to
> > storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github
> won't allow that).
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the
> > latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest
> > all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just
> > moved on and started using the SourceForge space.
> >
>
> I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras
> is an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras".
>
> Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra
> prefer to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the
> download bandwidth.
>
> Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are
> working on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter
> where a single person could make the decision but we still continue
> discussing.
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> >
>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[David Nalley]

Infra doesn't use extras, or even administer it, so it seems strange for us
to have a stake in decision making. We are happy to help facilitate the
move (and hence our involvement thus far).

On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be
> ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective.
>
> Ross
>
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us ]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>
> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev
> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done
> here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made.
>
> --David
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> ross.gard...@microsoft.com > wrote:
> > Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these
> > folks have shown interest ;-)
> >
> > I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org 
> > Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
> >
> > *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)
> >
> > You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the
> impression you were actively part of a group driving this.
> >
> > Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Uli
> >
> > On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> >> Moving board@ to BCC
> >>
> >> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it
> >> wasn't me!)
> >>
> >> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't
> >> know how actively but it is now a priority.
> >>
> >> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
> >> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his
> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
> >> Corporation
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk
> >> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de ] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
> >> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org  Cc:
> bo...@apache.org 
> >> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
> >>
> >> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both
> >> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on
> >> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of
> concept, no news since then.
> >>
> >> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Uli
> >>
> >> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> >>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25,
> 2016.
> >>>
> >>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please
> >>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report
> each quarter.
> >>>
> >>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with
> >>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David,
> >>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision
> already (I'm not sure of the current status).
> >>>
> >>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services
> >>> provided by external companies)
> >>>
> >>> Ross
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
> >>> Corporation
> >>>
> >>>
>

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras. 
As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has 
that changed?

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:06 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote:
>
>> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several 
>> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also 
>> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there).  But things have 
>> gone quiet for about 2 months.  There was a second prototype that 
>> looked pretty good (to us).  But, I don't know the state of things now.
>>
>
> It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We 
> are now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ 
> in the OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to 
> storage of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't 
> allow that).
>
> http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the 
> latest proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest 
> all times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just 
> moved on and started using the SourceForge space.
>

I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras is 
an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras".

Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra prefer 
to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the download 
bandwidth.

Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are working 
on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter where a single 
person could make the decision but we still continue discussing.


>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[jan i]

On 12 March 2015 at 22:55, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote:
>
>> I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several
>> projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also
>> involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there).  But things have gone
>> quiet for about 2 months.  There was a second prototype that looked
>> pretty good (to us).  But, I don't know the state of things now.
>>
>
> It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We are
> now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ in the
> OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to storage of
> some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't allow that).
>
> http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the latest
> proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest all times
> the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just moved on and
> started using the SourceForge space.
>

I support Andrea strongly here, AOO need a decision on this, apache_extras
is an essential part of our downloads, and not just "extras".

Personally I think the SF solution is what we as ASF need, unless Infra
prefer to host it on our own hardware, and do not have a problem with the
download bandwidth.

Can I please politely ask the people, who says (or others say) they are
working on this theme, to come to a decision. This seems to be a matter
where a single person could make the decision but we still continue
discussing.


>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/03/2015 Roger and Beth Whitcomb wrote:

I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several
projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also
involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there).  But things have gone
quiet for about 2 months.  There was a second prototype that looked
pretty good (to us).  But, I don't know the state of things now.


It was not me personally, but the OpenOffice project as a whole. We are 
now using http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/ in the 
OpenOffice trunk and it works for us (our needs are limited to storage 
of some optional build dependencies; for the record, Github won't allow 
that).


http://sourceforge.net/directory/apache_extras is the link to the latest 
proposal for an ASF-wide replacement. There was little interest all 
times the matter was discussed on this list, so OpenOffice just moved on 
and started using the SourceForge space.


Regards,
  Andrea.

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be 
ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective.

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:37 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev decision. 
I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've done here, but 
AFAIK, no decision has been made.

--David

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
 wrote:
> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these 
> folks have shown interest ;-)
>
> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
>
> Ross
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>
> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)
>
> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
> impression you were actively part of a group driving this.
>
> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uli
>
> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Moving board@ to BCC
>>
>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it 
>> wasn't me!)
>>
>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't 
>> know how actively but it is now a priority.
>>
>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra 
>> hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
>> Corporation
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk 
>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>>
>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both 
>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on 
>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
>> news since then.
>>
>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>>>
>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please 
>>> make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
>>> quarter.
>>>
>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, 
>>> with his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision 
>>> already (I'm not sure of the current status).
>>>
>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services 
>>> provided by external companies)
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
>>> Corporation
>>>
>>>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Christopher]

I don't know the reasons for choosing SF, but I'd highly recommend
putting serious consideration into GitHub. It's quite pleasant to work
with, and although I'm not a part of the apache-extras, I think those
who are would be quite satisfied with it (that's just my personal
opinion, of course).

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:37 PM, David Nalley  wrote:
> It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev
> decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've
> done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made.
>
> --David
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>  wrote:
>> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks 
>> have shown interest ;-)
>>
>> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
>> To: dev@community.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>>
>> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)
>>
>> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
>> impression you were actively part of a group driving this.
>>
>> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>> Moving board@ to BCC
>>>
>>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it
>>> wasn't me!)
>>>
>>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't
>>> know how actively but it is now a priority.
>>>
>>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
>>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his 
>>> infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
>>> Corporation
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk
>>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
>>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>>>
>>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both
>>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on
>>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
>>> news since then.
>>>
>>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
 Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.

 We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make
 sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
 quarter.

 I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with
 SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with
 his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already 
 (I'm not sure of the current status).

 (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services
 provided by external companies)

 Ross

 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
 Corporation

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[David Nalley]

It is my understanding that moving to SF from Google Code is a ComDev
decision. I have interacted with SF and then brought the PoCs they've
done here, but AFAIK, no decision has been made.

--David

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
 wrote:
> Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have 
> shown interest ;-)
>
> I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.
>
> Ross
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de]
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>
> *Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)
>
> You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
> impression you were actively part of a group driving this.
>
> Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uli
>
> On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Moving board@ to BCC
>>
>> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it
>> wasn't me!)
>>
>> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't
>> know how actively but it is now a priority.
>>
>> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
>> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra 
>> hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
>> Corporation
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk
>> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
>> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
>>
>> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both
>> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on
>> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
>> news since then.
>>
>> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>>>
>>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make
>>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
>>> quarter.
>>>
>>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with
>>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with
>>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already 
>>> (I'm not sure of the current status).
>>>
>>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services
>>> provided by external companies)
>>>
>>> Ross
>>>
>>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
>>> Corporation
>>>
>>>

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Roger and Beth Whitcomb]

I was involved at one point on behalf of Pivot (where we have several 
projects), and Andrea Pescetti on behalf of Open Office was also 
involved (since they have a bunch of stuff there).  But things have gone 
quiet for about 2 months.  There was a second prototype that looked 
pretty good (to us).  But, I don't know the state of things now.


~Roger Whitcomb
VP Apache Pivot

On 3/12/15 1:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:

Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have 
shown interest ;-)

I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.

Ross

-Original Message-
From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)

You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
impression you were actively part of a group driving this.

Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:

Moving board@ to BCC

I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it
wasn't me!)

All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't
know how actively but it is now a priority.

I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his
agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra 
hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
Corporation

-Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk
[mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

We reported about apache extras in September and November and both
times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on
it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
news since then.

Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:

Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.

We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make
sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.

I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with
SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with
his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already (I'm 
not sure of the current status).

(and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services
provided by external companies)

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft
Corporation

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have 
shown interest ;-)

I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it.

Ross

-Original Message-
From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:50 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)

You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
impression you were actively part of a group driving this.

Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Moving board@ to BCC
> 
> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it 
> wasn't me!)
> 
> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't 
> know how actively but it is now a priority.
> 
> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his 
> agreement) you can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra 
> hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
> 
> Ross
> 
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
> Corporation
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk 
> [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 12,
> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org 
> Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
> 
> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both 
> times we were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on 
> it. Some time in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no 
> news since then.
> 
> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>> 
>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make 
>> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
>> quarter.
>> 
>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
>> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with 
>> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already 
>> (I'm not sure of the current status).
>> 
>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services 
>> provided by external companies)
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
>> Corporation
>> 
>> 

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ulrich Stärk]

*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)

You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
impression you were actively
part of a group driving this.

Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Moving board@ to BCC
> 
> I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't 
> me!)
> 
> All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how 
> actively but it is
> now a priority.
> 
> I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you 
> can look to him for
> those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
> 
> Ross
> 
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 12,
> 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org Subject: Re: 
> Google Code shutting
> down Jan 2016
> 
> We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we 
> were told that Jim,
> Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked 
> for feedback on a
> proof of concept, no news since then.
> 
> Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
>> 
>> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure 
>> that progress on
>> this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.
>> 
>> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
>> SourceForge, they have
>> offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been 
>> exploring options for
>> download provision already (I'm not sure of the current status).
>> 
>> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by 
>> external companies)
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>> 
>> 

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Moving board@ to BCC

I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't 
me!)

All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how 
actively but it is now a priority. 

I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you 
can look to him for those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto 
wears his SF hat.

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:36 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: bo...@apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we 
were told that Jim, Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in 
October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then.

Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
> 
> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make 
> sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each 
> quarter.
> 
> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
> SourceForge, they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with 
> his infra hat, has been exploring options for download provision already (I'm 
> not sure of the current status).
> 
> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided 
> by external companies)
> 
> Ross
> 
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft 
> Corporation
> 
> 

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ulrich Stärk]

We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we 
were told that Jim,
Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked 
for feedback on a proof
of concept, no news since then.

Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
> 
> We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure 
> that progress on this
> is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.
> 
> I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
> SourceForge, they have offered
> neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been exploring 
> options for download
> provision already (I'm not sure of the current status).
> 
> (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by 
> external companies)
> 
> Ross
> 
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
> 
> 

Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.

We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that 
progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.

I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with SourceForge, 
they have offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has 
been exploring options for download provision already (I'm not sure of the 
current status).

(and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by 
external companies)

Ross

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Sally Khudairi]

Thanks, Ross.

I'd like to explore this further with you. When do you leave the country?

Chat soon,
Sally

[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and 
brevity]

- Reply message -
From: "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" 
To: "dev@community.apache.org" 
Cc: "Sally Khudairi" , "pr...@apache.org" 
Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015
Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 15:56

Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to 
use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move 
the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a 
good example of something that does work), accept we don’t have significant 
cash resources to make a big difference and therefore we have invited TEALs to 
present, organize a BOF and have a table in the expo area. TEALs help get 
people like our vast army of volunteers into high schools to help improve CS 
education. My hope is that by supporting activities like this we can have a 
small impact on the quality and breadth of CS education for those coming to us 
as contributors in later years.

What do you think? If this works for you I could link you to the TEALs people 
to help with content for a blog.

Oh, and I will be at ApacheCon.

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Suresh Marru [mailto:sma...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:50 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr...@apache.org
Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 
2015

Hi Sally,

I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 
 

Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts. 

Suresh

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>> Got it. OK.
>> 
>> Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
>> work for you?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sally
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> ---
>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
>> *To:* Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org" 
>> 
>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google 
>> Summer of Code 2015
>> 
>> Hi Sally,
>> 
>> yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
>> 
>> I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at 
>> least Ross will. There's nothing planned at the moment.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Uli
>> 
>> On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>>> Thanks, Uli.
>>> 
>>> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
>>> 
>>> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>>> 
>>> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
>>> special there?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sally
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
>>> >>
>>> *To:* "pr...@apache.org  
>>> >" 
>>> mailto:pr...@apache.org> >> >>;
>> Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org> 
>> >>
>>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org  
>>> >" 
>>> mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
>> >>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
>>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google 
>>> Summer of Code 2015
>>> 
>>> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make 
>>> sure to get an announcement out this year.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Uli
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links 
 updated. It would be cool if we could get this out asap. Is there anything 
 else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring 
 organization for Google Summer of Code
>>> 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
 > 
 
>> 

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

I’m around until the end of next week

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:sallykhuda...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:15 PM
To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr...@apache.org
Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 
2015

Thanks, Ross.

I'd like to explore this further with you. When do you leave the country?

Chat soon,
 Sally

[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and 
brevity]

- Reply message -
From: "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" 
mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com>>
To: "dev@community.apache.org" 
mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>
Cc: "Sally Khudairi" mailto:s...@apache.org>>, 
"pr...@apache.org" 
mailto:pr...@apache.org>>
Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015
Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 15:56



Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to 
use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move 
the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a 
good example of something that does work), accept we don’t have significant 
cash resources to make a big difference and therefore we have invited TEALs to 
present, organize a BOF and have a table in the expo area. TEALs help get 
people like our vast army of volunteers into high schools to help improve CS 
education. My hope is that by supporting activities like this we can have a 
small impact on the quality and breadth of CS education for those coming to us 
as contributors in later years.



What do you think? If this works for you I could link you to the TEALs people 
to help with content for a blog.



Oh, and I will be at ApacheCon.



Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.

A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation



-Original Message-

From: Suresh Marru [mailto:sma...@apache.org]

Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:50 PM

To: dev@community.apache.org

Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr...@apache.org

Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 
2015



Hi Sally,



I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 




Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts.



Suresh



> On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk 
> mailto:u...@spielviel.de>> wrote:

>

> Perfect, thanks!

>

> Cheers,

>

> Uli

>

> On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:

>> Got it. OK.

>>

>> Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
>> work for you?

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Sally

>>

>>

>> -

>> ---

>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de>>

>> *To:* Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org>>; 
>> "pr...@apache.org"

>> mailto:pr...@apache.org>>

>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
>> mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>

>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54

>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google

>> Summer of Code 2015

>>

>> Hi Sally,

>>

>> yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.

>>

>> I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at

>> least Ross will. There's nothing planned at the moment.

>>

>> Cheers,

>>

>> Uli

>>

>> On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:

>>> Thanks, Uli.

>>>

>>> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.

>>>

>>> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?

>>>

>>> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
>>> special there?

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Sally

>>>

>>> 

>>> 

>>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk >> >

>>> >> >> *To:* "pr...@apache.org 

>>> >> >>"

>>> >> >
>>>  >> >>;

>> Sally Khudairi > >

>> > 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Sally Khudairi]

Fantastic --thank you, Suresh!

I'll be in touch.

-Sally

[From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and 
brevity]

- Reply message -
From: "Suresh Marru" 
To: 
Cc: "Sally Khudairi" , "pr...@apache.org" 
Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015
Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 15:49

Hi Sally,
I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 

Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts. 

Suresh

On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
Perfect, thanks!Cheers,UliOn 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:Got it. 
OK.Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
work for 
you?Cheers,Sally*From:*
 Ulrich Stärk *To:* Sally Khudairi ; 
"pr...@apache.org" *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
*Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54*Subject:* Re: 
ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015Hi 
Sally,yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.I don't know who from ComDev will be at 
ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross will. There's nothingplanned at the 
moment.Cheers,UliOn 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:Thanks, Uli.I did 
post about it in our weekly news round-up.Happy to work with you on a press 
release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? 
Are you planning to do something special 
there?Cheers,Sally*From:*
 Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de>>*To:* 
"pr...@apache.org " mailto:pr...@apache.org>>;Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org>>*Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org 
" 
mailto:dev@community.apache.org>>*Sent:* Thursday, 12 
March 2015, 13:31*Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for 
Google Summer of Code 2015And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I 
want to make sure to get an announcement outthis year.Cheers,UliOn 2013-04-09 
14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates 
and links updated. It would be cool if we couldget this out asap. Is there 
anything else you need?Uli Original Message Subject: Apache 
Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
Code2012Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100From: Ulrich Stärk 
mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
>>To: pr...@apache.org 
 >CC: dev@community.apache.org 
 
>Hey Sally & 
Co.,this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
endeavours. Yesterday, we havebeen accepted as a mentoring organization for 
Google Summer of Code 2015 [1],[2]. This means thatover the summer, our 
committers will mentor students that are sponsored by Google and will beworking 
on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code written but 
also tointroduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit 
some new long-term committers.More information on the program is available at 
[3]. Students are now encouraged to discuss ideaswith the respective projects 
and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list of already existingproject 
ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from March 16 until 
March 27,codingwill take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the 
detailed timeline.Can you please run any press release past us 
(dev@community.apache.org>) before publishing?Thanks,Uli[1] 
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015[2] 
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache[3] 
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page[4]
 http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas[5] 
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)]

Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to 
use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move 
the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a 
good example of something that does work), accept we don’t have significant 
cash resources to make a big difference and therefore we have invited TEALs to 
present, organize a BOF and have a table in the expo area. TEALs help get 
people like our vast army of volunteers into high schools to help improve CS 
education. My hope is that by supporting activities like this we can have a 
small impact on the quality and breadth of CS education for those coming to us 
as contributors in later years.

What do you think? If this works for you I could link you to the TEALs people 
to help with content for a blog.

Oh, and I will be at ApacheCon.

Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

-Original Message-
From: Suresh Marru [mailto:sma...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:50 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr...@apache.org
Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 
2015

Hi Sally,

I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 
 

Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts. 

Suresh

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>> Got it. OK.
>> 
>> Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
>> work for you?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sally
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> ---
>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
>> *To:* Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org" 
>> 
>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google 
>> Summer of Code 2015
>> 
>> Hi Sally,
>> 
>> yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
>> 
>> I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at 
>> least Ross will. There's nothing planned at the moment.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Uli
>> 
>> On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>>> Thanks, Uli.
>>> 
>>> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
>>> 
>>> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>>> 
>>> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
>>> special there?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sally
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
>>> >>
>>> *To:* "pr...@apache.org  
>>> >" 
>>> mailto:pr...@apache.org> >> >>;
>> Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org> 
>> >>
>>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org  
>>> >" 
>>> mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
>> >>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
>>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google 
>>> Summer of Code 2015
>>> 
>>> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make 
>>> sure to get an announcement out this year.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Uli
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links 
 updated. It would be cool if we could get this out asap. Is there anything 
 else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring 
 organization for Google Summer of Code
>>> 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
 > 
 
>>  
 > 
  
 >>
 CC: dev@community.apache.org  
 > 
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Suresh Marru]

Hi Sally,

I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 
 

Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts. 

Suresh

> On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>> Got it. OK.
>> 
>> Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
>> work for you?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sally
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
>> *To:* Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org" 
>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
>> Code 2015
>> 
>> Hi Sally,
>> 
>> yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
>> 
>> I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
>> will. There's nothing
>> planned at the moment.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Uli
>> 
>> On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>>> Thanks, Uli.
>>> 
>>> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
>>> 
>>> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>>> 
>>> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
>>> special there?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sally
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
>>> >>
>>> *To:* "pr...@apache.org  >> >" mailto:pr...@apache.org> 
>>> >>;
>> Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org> 
>> >>
>>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org  
>>> >" 
>>> mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
>> >>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
>>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer 
>>> of Code 2015
>>> 
>>> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
>>> get an announcement out
>>> this year.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Uli
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization 
 for Google Summer of Code
>>> 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
 > 
 
>>  >  >>
 CC: dev@community.apache.org  
 > 
 
>> >>
 
 Hey Sally & Co.,
 
 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive 
 list of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 March 16 until March 27,
>>> coding
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed 
 timeline.
 
 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org 
 
>> 

Fwd: [Osdc-list] Writers needed: conduct an interview for ApacheCon or OpenStack Live

[Rich Bowen]

FYI: From OpenSource.com - if you're interested in conducting interviews 
for OpenSource.com to promote ApacheCon, please get in touch with Rikki.



 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Osdc-list] Writers needed: conduct an interview for ApacheCon 
or OpenStack Live

Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 14:37:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rikki Endsley 
To: osdc-list 

Hi folks,

We are still looking for people to conduct interviews for either 
ApacheCon or OpenStack Live.

These conferences are upcoming in April, so please note the timeline below:

Timeline
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send to speaker
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Estimated time required: ~2 hours for light research on the speaker and
topic, to draft the questions, and to write an introduction.

Sign-up for an interview here:

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come up with a list of questions. All of our interviews are conducted
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Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Perfect, thanks!

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> Got it. OK.
> 
> Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
> work for you?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sally
>  
> 
> 
> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
> *To:* Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org" 
> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
> Code 2015
> 
> Hi Sally,
> 
> yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
> 
> I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
> will. There's nothing
> planned at the moment.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
>> Thanks, Uli.
>>
>> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
>>
>> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>> 
>> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
>> special there?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sally
>>
>> 
>> *From:* Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de>>
>> *To:* "pr...@apache.org " > >;
> Sally Khudairi mailto:s...@apache.org>>
>> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org " 
>>  >
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
>> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
>> Code 2015
>>
>> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
>> get an announcement out
>> this year.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>>> Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
>>> would be cool if we could
>>> get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization 
>>> for Google Summer of Code
>> 2012
>>> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
>>> From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de> 
>>>  >>
>>> To: pr...@apache.org  >> >
>>> CC: dev@community.apache.org  
>>>  >
>>>
>>> Hey Sally & Co.,
>>>
>>> this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
>>> endeavours. Yesterday, we have
>>> been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
>>> [1],[2]. This means that
>>> over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
>>> Google and will be
>>> working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
>>> written but also to
>>> introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
>>> new long-term committers.
>>> More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
>>> encouraged to discuss ideas
>>> with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive 
>>> list of already existing
>>> project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
>>> March 16 until March 27,
>> coding
>>> will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
>>>
>>> Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
> 
>> >) before 
>> publishing?
> 
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Uli
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
>>> [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
>>> [3] 
>>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
>>> [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
>>> [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Sally Khudairi]

Got it. OK.
Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
work for you?
Cheers,Sally 
  From: Ulrich Stärk 
 To: Sally Khudairi ; "pr...@apache.org"  
Cc: "dev@community.apache.org"  
 Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
 Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
Code 2015
   
Hi Sally,

yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.

I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
will. There's nothing
planned at the moment.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> Thanks, Uli.
> 
> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
> 
> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>  
> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
> special there?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sally
> 
> 
> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
> *To:* "pr...@apache.org" ; Sally Khudairi 
> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
> Code 2015
> 
> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
> get an announcement out
> this year.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
>> would be cool if we could
>> get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
>>
>> Uli
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
>> Google Summer of Code
> 2012
>> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
>> From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de>>
>> To: pr...@apache.org 
>> CC: dev@community.apache.org 
>>
>> Hey Sally & Co.,
>>
>> this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
>> endeavours. Yesterday, we have
>> been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
>> [1],[2]. This means that
>> over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
>> Google and will be
>> working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
>> written but also to
>> introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
>> new long-term committers.
>> More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
>> encouraged to discuss ideas
>> with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
>> of already existing
>> project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
>> March 16 until March 27,
> coding
>> will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
>>
>> Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
> ) before publishing?


>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
>> [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
>> [3] 
>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
>> [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
>> [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
>>
>>
> 
> 


  

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Sally,

yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.

I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
will. There's nothing
planned at the moment.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> Thanks, Uli.
> 
> I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
> 
> Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
>  
> Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
> special there?
> 
> Cheers,
> Sally
> 
> 
> *From:* Ulrich Stärk 
> *To:* "pr...@apache.org" ; Sally Khudairi 
> *Cc:* "dev@community.apache.org" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
> *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
> Code 2015
> 
> And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
> get an announcement out
> this year.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
>> would be cool if we could
>> get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
>>
>> Uli
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
>> Google Summer of Code
> 2012
>> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
>> From: Ulrich Stärk mailto:u...@spielviel.de>>
>> To: pr...@apache.org 
>> CC: dev@community.apache.org 
>>
>> Hey Sally & Co.,
>>
>> this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
>> endeavours. Yesterday, we have
>> been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
>> [1],[2]. This means that
>> over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
>> Google and will be
>> working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
>> written but also to
>> introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
>> new long-term committers.
>> More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
>> encouraged to discuss ideas
>> with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
>> of already existing
>> project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
>> March 16 until March 27,
> coding
>> will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
>>
>> Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
> ) before publishing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
>> [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
>> [3] 
>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
>> [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
>> [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Sally Khudairi]

Thanks, Uli.
I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You? 
Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something special 
there?
Cheers,Sally
  From: Ulrich Stärk 
 To: "pr...@apache.org" ; Sally Khudairi  
Cc: "dev@community.apache.org"  
 Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
 Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
Code 2015
   
And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to get 
an announcement out
this year.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
> would be cool if we could
> get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
> 
> Uli
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
> Google Summer of Code 2012
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
> From: Ulrich Stärk 
> To: pr...@apache.org
> CC: dev@community.apache.org
> 
> Hey Sally & Co.,
> 
> this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
> endeavours. Yesterday, we have
> been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
> [1],[2]. This means that
> over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
> Google and will be
> working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
> written but also to
> introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
> new long-term committers.
> More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
> encouraged to discuss ideas
> with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
> of already existing
> project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from March 
> 16 until March 27, coding
> will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
> 
> Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org) 
> before publishing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Uli
> 
> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
> [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
> [3] 
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
> [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
> [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
> 
> 


  

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to get 
an announcement out
this year.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
> would be cool if we could
> get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
> 
> Uli
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
> Google Summer of Code 2012
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
> From: Ulrich Stärk 
> To: pr...@apache.org
> CC: dev@community.apache.org
> 
> Hey Sally & Co.,
> 
> this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
> endeavours. Yesterday, we have
> been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
> [1],[2]. This means that
> over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
> Google and will be
> working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
> written but also to
> introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
> new long-term committers.
> More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
> encouraged to discuss ideas
> with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
> of already existing
> project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from March 
> 16 until March 27, coding
> will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
> 
> Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org) 
> before publishing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Uli
> 
> [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
> [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
> [3] 
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
> [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
> [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
> 
> 

Fwd: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Pierre Smits]

FYI,

As it was bounced.

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM *
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

-- Forwarded message --
From: Pierre Smits 
Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?
To: "infrastruct...@apache.org" , "
dev@community.apache.org" 
Cc: Emmanuel Lécharny , Joe Schaefer <
joe_schae...@yahoo.com>


Including community dev as it seems appropriate.

Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as described
by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory project is a good one. If the
PMC of project FOO wants to have done it differently, then it is their
prerogative.

My 2 cents.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM *
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
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Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Christopher]

The gain, of course, is security... Because inactivity could indicate lack
of control over the account, as previously indicated. Whether this is a
significant enough risk to do something about is the question.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 12:24 Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:

> On 3/12/2015 12:19 PM, Christopher wrote:
> > Perhaps we can create a procedure that *isn't* a giant hurdle?
> I don't see the gain from doing so.  We've had no issues identified that
> this actual solves and it actively goes against my understanding of the
> pro-volunteer nature of the ASF.
>
> regards,
> KAM
>

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 3/12/2015 12:19 PM, Christopher wrote:

Perhaps we can create a procedure that *isn't* a giant hurdle?
I don't see the gain from doing so.  We've had no issues identified that 
this actual solves and it actively goes against my understanding of the 
pro-volunteer nature of the ASF.


regards,
KAM

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Christopher]

Perhaps we can create a procedure that *isn't* a giant hurdle?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015, 11:39 Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:

> On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > Including community dev as it seems appropriate.
> >
> > Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as
> > described by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory project is a
> > good one. If the PMC of project FOO wants to have done it differently,
> > then it is their prerogative.
> We will have to agree to disagree because to me it's an apache way that
> volunteers can step away and step back without giant hurdles. This isn't
> about removing from a PMC but more about removing commit access seems
> like an extraordinary step that should be done in rare situations.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Mike Kienenberger]

On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> The solution as described by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory
> project is a good one.

The community mailing list is certainly a reasonable place to discuss
this, but it's been discussed before.  Note that If you're going to
bring a discussion here from another conversation, it's helpful to
provide links to what you are referring.

I think Mark Thomas's reply hidden in the quoted text covers
everything that needs to be said:

- The PMC is responsible for reviewing all the commits made.

- The security risks of leaving committer accounts active has been
weighed and considered acceptable in other situations.

- The decision is ultimately up to the individual PMCs to make as it
is a social decision with no technical impact.

My personal choice as a former security analyst would be to
pro-actively remove access, but I accept and respect that the ASF as a
whole has made a different decision, and I have not and would not
suggest that the projects where I am a PMC member deviate from the
standard practice.  It did irk me the first time the discussion came
up, but  I got over it. :-)



On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
>>
>> Including community dev as it seems appropriate.
>>
>> Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as described
>> by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory project is a good one. If the
>> PMC of project FOO wants to have done it differently, then it is their
>> prerogative.
>
> We will have to agree to disagree because to me it's an apache way that
> volunteers can step away and step back without giant hurdles. This isn't
> about removing from a PMC but more about removing commit access seems like
> an extraordinary step that should be done in rare situations.
>
> Regards,
> KAM

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 3/12/2015 11:31 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

Including community dev as it seems appropriate.

Offboarding is equally important as onboarding. The solution as 
described by Emmanuel and applied by Apache Directory project is a 
good one. If the PMC of project FOO wants to have done it differently, 
then it is their prerogative.
We will have to agree to disagree because to me it's an apache way that 
volunteers can step away and step back without giant hurdles. This isn't 
about removing from a PMC but more about removing commit access seems 
like an extraordinary step that should be done in rare situations.


Regards,
KAM

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Leif Hedstrom]

I'm with Pierre on this one. The ATS PMC has, as an example, several members 
and committers   who no longer read or reply to emails. We honestly have no 
idea if they are even in control of their  accounts.

Cheers,

-- Leif 



> On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:21 AM, Pierre Smits  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jake,
> 
> I am not talking about removing merit and karma. Such is persisted in many
> ways, think web pages, wiki pages, etc. I am talking about revoking
> permissions at tools levels. That doesn't mean deleting committers
> identities within the ASF.
> 
> Ensuring that committers get the same permissions back (or not) is up to
> the PMC of a project to decide.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
> *ORRTIZ.COM *
> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> Based Manufacturing, Professional
> Services and Retail & Trade
> http://www.orrtiz.com
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Pierre
>> merit and karma are earned and should not be taken away. If we where to
>> remove karma for services and then someone came back how would we track
>> what their previous permissions had been, this would leave no guarantee
>> that they would have the same permissions they had when they initially
>> stepped away for whatever reason.
>> 
>> -Jake
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Pierre Smits 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I apparently only replied to Jaques. See that message below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pierre Smits
>>> 
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM *
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Pierre Smits 
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?
>>> To: Jacques Le Roux 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When committers resign on their own accord (for whatever reason) their
>>> permissions for the tools of the project (JIRA, CONFLUENCE, SVN, etc)
>>> should be revoked. When they want to be active again, this can easily be
>>> facilitated.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Pierre Smits
>>> 
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM *
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Mark,
 
 It's quite clear
 
 Jacques
 
 Le 12/03/2015 11:59, Mark Thomas a écrit :
 
 On 12/03/2015 09:50, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> 
>> Hi Infra Team and All,
>> 
>> I have a question I wonder for some time and recently discussed in our
>> OFBiz PMC ML.
>> 
>> Committers come and go. When a PMC member resign, because s/he clearly
>> wants to stop helping on the project and want to be completely
>> disconnect from it, her/his committer account remains active. I wonder
>> if this is not an useless security hole. Same for no longer active
>> committers. The difference with an active committer is s/he will never
>> know since s/he is possibly no longer monitoring things.
>> 
>> A credential can be abused by an external person, that can be the
>> beginning of much troubles we can not all imagine (hackers do)... With
>> security holes you never know, until it bites you, so I really wonder
>> why a committer account can not be terminated?
> A committer account on its own can do very little in the way of harm.
> 
> It can (if you know which hoops to jump through) get shell access to
> people.a.o and it can send e-mail from an @apache.org e-mail address.
> 
> people.a.o is locked down (and infra has additional monitoring in place)
> so the risk here is sufficiently small infra is happy with it.
> 
> It terms of sending e-mail via an @apache.org e-mail address, if it is
> abusive (i.e. spammy) then we do rely on folks reporting it to us.
> 
> The PMC is responsible for granting (and revoking) commit access. There
> is nothing (of a technical nature - you'll have to answer to the board
> and your community for the social aspects) stopping you removing
> inactive committers from the appropriate LDAP group(s).
> 
> I'd add that the PMC is responsible for reviewing all the commits made
> to the PMC's repositories. You are expected to spot if a long inactive
> committer suddenly starts making changes or an account you don't
> recognise makes changes. Likewise, active committers are expected to
> spot changes in their name they did not make.
> 
> More generally, if infra has a security concern we shut stuff down
> and/or lock accounts first and ask questions later. Any security
> concerns should be reported immediately to r...@apache.org
> 
> Finally, infra periodically enforces password resets for all committers.
> This has the helpful side-ef

Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Jake,

I am not talking about removing merit and karma. Such is persisted in many
ways, think web pages, wiki pages, etc. I am talking about revoking
permissions at tools levels. That doesn't mean deleting committers
identities within the ASF.

Ensuring that committers get the same permissions back (or not) is up to
the PMC of a project to decide.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM *
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Jake Farrell  wrote:

> Hi Pierre
> merit and karma are earned and should not be taken away. If we where to
> remove karma for services and then someone came back how would we track
> what their previous permissions had been, this would leave no guarantee
> that they would have the same permissions they had when they initially
> stepped away for whatever reason.
>
> -Jake
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Pierre Smits 
> wrote:
>
>> I apparently only replied to Jaques. See that message below.
>>
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM *
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Pierre Smits 
>> Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Why are committers accounts never terminated?
>> To: Jacques Le Roux 
>>
>>
>> When committers resign on their own accord (for whatever reason) their
>> permissions for the tools of the project (JIRA, CONFLUENCE, SVN, etc)
>> should be revoked. When they want to be active again, this can easily be
>> facilitated.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Pierre Smits
>>
>> *ORRTIZ.COM *
>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>> Services and Retail & Trade
>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mark,
>>>
>>> It's quite clear
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 12/03/2015 11:59, Mark Thomas a écrit :
>>>
>>>  On 12/03/2015 09:50, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Hi Infra Team and All,
>
> I have a question I wonder for some time and recently discussed in our
> OFBiz PMC ML.
>
> Committers come and go. When a PMC member resign, because s/he clearly
> wants to stop helping on the project and want to be completely
> disconnect from it, her/his committer account remains active. I wonder
> if this is not an useless security hole. Same for no longer active
> committers. The difference with an active committer is s/he will never
> know since s/he is possibly no longer monitoring things.
>
> A credential can be abused by an external person, that can be the
> beginning of much troubles we can not all imagine (hackers do)... With
> security holes you never know, until it bites you, so I really wonder
> why a committer account can not be terminated?
>
 A committer account on its own can do very little in the way of harm.

 It can (if you know which hoops to jump through) get shell access to
 people.a.o and it can send e-mail from an @apache.org e-mail address.

 people.a.o is locked down (and infra has additional monitoring in place)
 so the risk here is sufficiently small infra is happy with it.

 It terms of sending e-mail via an @apache.org e-mail address, if it is
 abusive (i.e. spammy) then we do rely on folks reporting it to us.

 The PMC is responsible for granting (and revoking) commit access. There
 is nothing (of a technical nature - you'll have to answer to the board
 and your community for the social aspects) stopping you removing
 inactive committers from the appropriate LDAP group(s).

 I'd add that the PMC is responsible for reviewing all the commits made
 to the PMC's repositories. You are expected to spot if a long inactive
 committer suddenly starts making changes or an account you don't
 recognise makes changes. Likewise, active committers are expected to
 spot changes in their name they did not make.

 More generally, if infra has a security concern we shut stuff down
 and/or lock accounts first and ask questions later. Any security
 concerns should be reported immediately to r...@apache.org

 Finally, infra periodically enforces password resets for all committers.
 This has the helpful side-effect of effectively locking unused committer
 accounts.

 Mark



>>
>>
>

Re: Lightning talks

[Jim Jagielski]

Sure... I'll need a co-host :)

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> 
> Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you willing to 
> be the Lightning Talks MC? (Wednesday evening, after Andy Terrel's keynote.)
> 
> -- 
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: GitHub Pages

[Ted Dunning]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Mike Kienenberger 
wrote:

> The github pages I've worked on have all been in Markdown, so they're
> portable.
>

INdeed.  And the Jekyll procedures I have talked about  in this thread
allow GH emulation at small cost.


>
> I also don't see any reason why we can't host pages elsewhere since we
> control the source repositories.
>

Well, the cost of moving from that external hosting is a big risk, even if
low probability.


>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>  wrote:
> > Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache
> hardware? If so, why?
> >
> > I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we
> really need to own web server?
> >
> > A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we
> could not easily switch to another host.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:40 AM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: GitHub Pages
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > The easy summary is that Apache would like to keep apache sites being
> served by apache controlled hardware.
> >
> > Github serving pages fails that test.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Christopher 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all
> >> > of the site storage on apache servers.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned
> >> that GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so,
> >> wouldn't that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also?
> >>
> >>
> >> > There have been objections in this thread about using github.io
> >> > based sites even with site name masquerading.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true
> >> > > that
> >> > you
> >> > > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also.
> >> >
> >>
>

Lightning talks

[Rich Bowen]

Hey, Jim, since you're going to be at ApacheCon this year, are you 
willing to be the Lightning Talks MC? (Wednesday evening, after Andy 
Terrel's keynote.)


--
Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: GitHub Pages

[Ted Dunning]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:55 AM, David Nalley  wrote:

> SSL
> Specifically - apache.org sites are in https-everywhere. Those sites
> can't provide SSL.
>

Very good point.


>
> None of the current TLP web sites are being served from Apache
> hardware though - it's all VMs in 2-3 different cloud providers.
>

But these are all apache controlled, right?

Re: GitHub Pages

[Christopher]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:

>
> I think those other comments about Jekyll had to do with keeping all of
> the site storage on apache servers.
>
>
I'm not sure I understand how Jekyll affects that. Are we concerned that
GitHub will not render the site's source accurately? And, if so, wouldn't
that concern extend to non-Jekyll static sources also?


> There have been objections in this thread about using github.io based
> sites even with site name masquerading.
>
>
Does anybody wish to summarize those? I think it would be helpful.


> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 6, 2015, at 14:36, Christopher  wrote:
> >
> > Regarding some of the other comments about jekyll... it's not true that
> you
> > need jekyll. You can publish plain HTML or Markdown also.
>