Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Shanghai

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

+1.
Thanks to Shaofeng for starting ALC Shanghai.
I'm willing to be the mentor of the ALC Shanghai.

Thanks,

Willem Jiang

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On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:01 PM ShaoFeng Shi  wrote:
>
> Hello Community Dev,
>
> I'm Shaofen Shi, Apache member and PMC of several projects (incubator,
> Kylin, Gluten, Horaedb). I live in Shanghai which is the biggest city in
> China. In Shanghai there are a lot of Apache users, contributors, comitters
> as well as PMC members. Recently we discussed to form the ALC Shanghai so
> that many events can be organized under it. This proposal has got many
> responses quickly, and William Jiang has guided us to contact dev@community
> to go through the process.
>
> Here is the proposed ALC Chapter team, which has 6 ASF members, and more
> than 20 PMC member from different projects：
>
>
> 1. Shaofeng Shi 史少锋; shaofengshi at apache dot org; Apache member, PMC of
> Kylin, Incubator, Gluten, Horaedb;
> 2. Ted Liu 刘天栋; tedliu at apache dot org; Apache member, PMC member of
> ComDev, Incubator & Fundraising;
> 3. He Qi 齐赫; roryqi at apache dot org; PPMC of Uniffle
> 4. Jeff Zhang 章剑锋; zjffdu at apache dot org; Apache member, PMC member of
> Tez，Livy, Zeppelin，Incubator
> 5. Kaijie Chen 陈凯杰; ckj at apache dot org; PMC member of Ozone, Committer
> of Uniffle
> 6. Yuming Wang 王玉明; email: yumwang at apache dot org; PMC of Spark
> 7. Bright Li 李明康; email：slibre at kaoyuanshe dot org; Board Director of
> KAIYUANSHE
> 8. Cheng Pan 潘成; chengpan at apache dot org; PMC of Kyuubi Celeborn Toree
> 9. Junfan Zhang 张俊帆; zuston at apache dot org; PPMC of uniffle
> 10. Nicholas Jiang 蒋晓峰; nicholasjiang at apache dot org; PMC of Paimon,
> Committer of Celeborn, Kyuubi, RocketMQ, ShardingSphere
> 11. Fu Chen 陈福; fchen at apache dot org; PMC of Kyuubi, Celeborn
> 12. Yun Tang 唐云; tangyun at apache dot org ，committer of Flink
> 13. Li Cheng 程力; licheng at apache dot org, Committer of Hadoop, Ozone, PMC
> of Ozone
> 14. Calvin Fu 伏长海; changhaifu at apache dot org，committer of
> DolphinScheduler
> 15. Chufeng Gao 高楚枫; chufenggao at apache dot org，PMC member of
> DolphinScheduler
> 16. Shaoyun Chen 陈少云; csy at apache dot org, PMC member of Kyuubi,
> Committer of Celeborn
> 17. Jerry shao 邵赛赛; jshao at apache dot org, PMC mmeber of Apache Spark,
> Apache member
> 18. Meng duan 段蒙; macduan at apache dot org, PPMC of Uniffle
> 19. Vinoyang 杨华; vinoyang at apache dot org PMC member of Apache Hudi and
> Kyuubi
> 20. Dong Li 李栋; lidong at apache dot org; PMC of Apache Kylin
> 21. Yi Chen 陈怡; sammichen at apache dot org; PMC of Hadoop & Ozone, Apache
> Member
> 22. Yuxiang Wang 王昱翔; wangyuxiang at apache dot org; committer of
>  dolphinscheduler
> 23. Zhankun Tang 汤占坤; ztang at apache dot org; PMC of Hadoop; Apache Member.
> 24. Yanghong Zhong 钟阳红; nju_yaho at apache dot org; PMC of Kylin; Committer
> of Datafusion
> 25. Chunen Ni 倪春恩; nic at apache dot org; PMC of Kylin
> 26. Junping Du 堵俊平; junping_du at apache dot org，ASF Member, PMC of
>  Hadoop, OZone, YuniKorn, Linkis, EventMesh
> 27. Yao Zhou 周尧;  zhouyao2023 at apache dot org; Committer of SeaTunnel
> 28. Jie Yao 姚杰; jacksonyao at apache dot org; committer of Ozone,
> 29. Zhen Wang 王震; wangzhen at apache dot org; PMC of Kyuubi & Linkis
> 30. Shaohong Xu 徐少鸿; xsh at apache dot org; committer of Ozone
> 31. Xudong Guo 郭旭东; guoxudong.dev at gmail.com; maintainer of kubevela
> 32. Rui Li 李锐; lirui at apache dot org; Flink committer, PMC of Hive
> 33. Jiabao Sun 孙家宝; jiabaosun at apache dot org; Flink committer
> 34. Zhifang Li 李志方;  zhifgli at gmail dot com;  PMC of Uniffle
> 35. junjie chen 陈俊杰; junjie at apache dot org; PMC of Inlong
> 36. Kevin Clair 宋明杰; kevinclair at apache dot org; PMC of Shenyu
>
> Please help to review and create related resources once get approved. Thank
> you!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shaofeng Shi 史少锋
> Apache Kylin PMC member,
> Apache Incubator PMC member,
> Email: shaofeng...@apache.org

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Re: [Announcement] - Establishing ALC Hangzhou Chapter

[Willem Jiang]

Congratulations to the ALC Hangzhou team!
I'm looking forward to working with you ：）

Cheers，

Willem Jiang

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On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 9:12 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> ComDev PMC is pleased to announce our next Apache Local Community [1]
> ALC Chapter - ALC Hangzhou [2] and Jun Liu as ALC Hangzhou Chapter
> lead.
>
> Please join me in congratulating the ALC Hangzhou Chapter and wishing
> them the best of luck for their future initiatives and events to
> spread ASF and open source awareness in the Hangzhou region.
>
> We have the following members in ALC Hangzhou:
>
> -- Jun Liu, Apache Dubbo PMC Chair
> -- Jark Wu, Apache Flink PMC Member
> -- JinSong Li, Apache Flink PMC Member, Apache Paimon(Incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Yu Li, Apache Flink PMC Member
> -- Qingshan Lin, Apache RocketMQ PMC Member
> -- Xiaorui Wang, Apache RocketMQ PMC Chair
> -- Xinyu Zhou, Apache RocketMQ PMC Member
> -- Heqing Jiang, Apache Dubbo PMC Member
> -- Zhongming Hua, Apache Dubbo PMC Member
> -- YunXing Zhao, Apache Dubbo PMC Member
> -- JianBin Chen, Apache Seata(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Jiangke Wu, Apache Seata(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Qin Yao, Apache Kyuubi PMC Member, Apache Spark Committer
> -- Xiduo You, Apache Kyuubi PMC Member, Apache Spark Committer
> -- Cheng Pan, Apache Kyuubi PMC Member, Apache Celeborn(incubating)
> PPMC Member, Apache Toree(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Binjie Yang, Apache Kyuubi Committer, Apache Celeborn Committer
> -- Ning Qi, Apache Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Feng Dong, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Bo Jiang, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Cheng Ming, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Enxin Xie, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Yubin Ren, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Shuailing Li, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Nadia Jiang, Apache Answer(incubating) PPMC Member
> -- Fenggen He, Apache Shenyu PMC Member
> -- Yu Xiao, Apache Shenyu PMC Chair
> -- Zicheng Zhang, Apache Shenyu PMC Member
>
> Huge thanks to Willam Jiang as he is mentoring our new ALC Chapter.
> Many congratulations ALC Hangzhou team!
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Hangzhou
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
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Re: Self Introduction - Xuanwo

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Xuanwo，

Welcome to join the ComDev community.
I'm looking forward to working with you :)

Cheers,

Willem Jiang


On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:21 PM Xuanwo  wrote:
>
> Hello, everyone
>
> I'm Xuanwo, and I'm following the "Contribute" guide in 
> comdev-working-groups[1] to introduce myself and kickstart my contributions :)
>
> My personal vision is "Empowering freely data access from ANY storage service 
> in ANY method". Open source is definitely an important part of achieving my 
> vision.
>
> - I'm the PMC Chair for Apache OpenDAL [2], a project that graduated in 
> January 2024, aimed at enabling free data access.
> - I work at Databend Labs [3], focusing on cost-effective data analysis.
> - I'm also contributing to Apache Iceberg [4] to simplify reading SQL tables.
>
> My current interest lies in open source sustainability. I want to learn how 
> to ensure a project's sustainability and foster community growth. I'm here to 
> explore how I can contribute to expanding the ASF community.
>
> Pleased to meet you here; I'm looking forward to working together with you.
>
> [1]: https://github.com/apache/comdev-working-groups
> [2]: https://github.com/apache/opendal
> [3]: https://github.com/datafuselabs/databend/
> [4]: https://github.com/apache/iceberg-rust
>
> Xuanwo
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Re: Web site checker needs help

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Craig,

Thanks for looking into this; I just looked at the warning that the
whimsy site found.
The most recent graduate project websites don't have this kind of warning.
If I remember correctly,   the podling project must resolve the whimsy
site warnings before graduation.
Can we ask the PMCs to check the status of the site warning first?

Willem Jiang

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:28 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
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> While reviewing some of the project reports for the board meeting, I use the 
> tool
> https://whimsy.apache.org/site/
> to help me understand the projects' conformance with policy.
>
> I noticed many "false negatives" and "false positives" that need attention. I 
> believe that the tool is extremely useful but needs help. I have started to 
> document and ask for feedback on some of the issues, but this is bigger than 
> any one person can handle.
>
> Is it worth creating a new community-working-group-site-check to document the 
> issues with the tool? Perhaps a better name would help...
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
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Re: Update Website Template (WAS: Help to get the Wayang project website in shape)

[Willem Jiang]

When a project uses the template, they can download the zip file from
the branch they want to use.
We may need to specify it in the main branch README.

Willem Jiang


On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:59 AM tison  wrote:
>
> Yeah ..
>
> The pelican template is a repo template and has its own repo with a
> asf-site branch while it may be able to preview ..
>
> I'd like to ask for a repo for the docu template but it ends up with
> hosting in another branch in the apache-website-template repo :O
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> Dave Fisher  于2024年2月27日周二 22:42写道：
> >
> > Hi Shane,
> >
> > The Pelican ASF Template at https://github.com/apache/template-site is 
> > somewhat out of date as many contributors have contributed to ASF Pelican 
> > in the last two or three years. It would be good to revisit. I’m not sure I 
> > have the time or not, but that would great to update. One area in 
> > particular is as simple as adding updates to required privacy policies.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2024, at 7:15 AM, tison  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Shane,
> > >
> > > It's under the list. See [1] and the referred thread. I'll try to
> > > submit a patch this week to add this information, including the
> > > pelican info. We'd later move the pelican template to this repo also
> > > in a dedicated branch and make it "just work".
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > tison.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/issues/18
> > >
> > > Shane Curcuru  于2024年2月26日周一 19:34写道：
> > >>
> > >> tison wrote on 2/4/24 10:16 AM:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I finally find some time to prepare a demo for the new website template 
> > >>> [1].
> > >>
> > >> This is awesome; I love providing more default "just use this" templates
> > >> in various themes like this.
> > >>
> > >> One question: why doesn't this also link (At least in the docs for each
> > >> readme maybe?) to the Infra-supported pelican template?  We should at
> > >> least point to that, since infra supports it and it provides a
> > >> python-managed template, in case people like that better than 
> > >> Jekyll/ruby.
> > >>
> > >>   https://infra.apache.org/asf-pelican-gettingstarted.html
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> - Shane
> > >>   Member
> > >>   The Apache Software Foundation
> > >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Create a new repo for website template

[Willem Jiang]

>From my recent experience, it could save the developer lots of time if
they can work on the website's content by adding some markdown files
directly.
Following the website policy and turning the features of the website
engine are one-time work. The ROI would be good if we could share
these through the website template.

Thanks,

Willem Jiang

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 8:20 PM tison  wrote:
>
> > And/or just point to the source code of existing ASF websites which
> > can serve as living examples.
>
> You can check the original mailing list thread [1]. I recommend Fury as an
> example there because it's just started. Living examples can be supplements
> but customized a lot to prevent new podlings from catching up.
>
> This is my initial motivation to create a template and even self-contained
> docs to share how to switch features while being compliant with ASF
> policies :D
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/nzzvz0j6mlgfn4pldxg6988oqw20b0bx
>
>
> Bertrand Delacretaz  于2024年2月20日周二 19:32写道：
>
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:45 AM Daniel Gruno 
> > wrote:
> > > ...Just use the existing website-template repository, have the
> > > default branch be an empty branch with a README that tells you what the
> > > different examples are, each in their own branch or directory...
> >
> > And/or just point to the source code of existing ASF websites which
> > can serve as living examples.
> >
> > And encourage people to add GitHub topics to their website
> > repositories, so that queries like
> >
> > https://github.com/search?q=topic%3Ahugo+org%3Aapache=Repositories
> >
> > can give you a list of real live examples that use your favorite
> > website generation tool, "hugo" in this example.
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: Update Website Template (WAS: Help to get the Wayang project website in shape)

[Willem Jiang]

+1 for providing some modern templates for the incubating projects.

Cheers,

Willem Jiang


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 1:26 PM tison  wrote:
>
> I've pushed the code to 'docusarus' branch on this repo, and file a
> ticket on INFRA [1] to ask for some privileges actions.
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25486
>
> tison  于2024年2月10日周六 18:32写道：
> >
> > It seems that the repo is foundation-wise that I have the permission to 
> > move forward this effort.
> >
> > I'll push the branch and update the README. And then ask for INFRA to make 
> > it the default branch, as well as setting the repo as a repo template.
> >
> > I believe comdev and the Incubator are related to these actions so I post 
> > here for visibility, and welcome any feedback if you second this or have 
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > tison 于2024年2月4日 周日23:16写道：
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I finally find some time to prepare a demo for the new website template 
> >> [1].
> >>
> >> It may still open to be improved including a download page template
> >> and a community page template, as well as some guides as its docs. But
> >> I'd like to first collecting feedback and finding which PMC is
> >> responsible for this repository [2].
> >>
> >> The background is that our current template is quite old and not
> >> updated for the past six years. Few people understand those techniques
> >> and have a hard time to build their own site. Also, new policy
> >> compliance and new techniques benefits can be included in the template
> >> to help new projects (podlings) build a wonderful site.
> >>
> >> I'm glad to maintain this repo but I find myself has no permission
> >> over this repo. So again, which PMC is responsible for this
> >> repository?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> tison.
> >>
> >> [1] https://github.com/tisonkun/apache-website-template/tree/docusaurus
> >> [2] https://github.com/apache/apache-website-template/
> >>
> >> Alex Porcelli  于2024年1月30日周二 04:53写道：
> >> >
> >> > Another shout-out for tison and the Apache Fury to provide such a nice
> >> > starting point for new websites.
> >> >
> >> > I managed to put, for now, a simple placeholder website for Apache KIE
> >> > (incubation).
> >> >
> >> > Thank you tison and the Apache Fury community!
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 4:10 AM Xuanwo  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I managed to move our old website to Docusaurus in one day - using 
> >> > > > the template
> >> > > > structure from Fury, if you don’t mind.
> >> > >
> >> > > Congrats!
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, at 17:07, Alexander Alten-Lorenz wrote:
> >> > > > Hey tison,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thank you for the head-up. I managed to move our old website to
> >> > > > Docusaurus in one day - using the template structure from Fury, if 
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > don’t mind. Awesome stuff, would love when we’d had a template for 
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > podlings to setup a good looking, SEO friendly project page. That’s
> >> > > > needed to grow the community!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cheers, thanks again,
> >> > > >  —Alex
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> On Jan 25, 2024, at 12:01, tison  wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Hi Alexander,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I use Docusaurus for Kvrocks and Fury. Their configuration should be
> >> > > >> straightforward to follow already. The most simple one now is
> >> > > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury-site.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Also, Docu is well-documented https://docusaurus.io/docs.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I'm thinking of updating the website template [1] with Docu but have
> >> > > >> not yet had time and understand which PMC manages this project.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Best,
> >> > > >> tison.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> [1] https://github.com/ap

Re: [WG: Welcome] Proposal, a Welcome Working Group

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Rich,

Thanks for bringing this up; I've been thinking the same thing for a
while. I agree with your points. I'm sharing my thoughts based on what
you suggested.

1. We can use LLM AI tools to answer the user's first question and
help them find the tasks they may be interested in.
2. It could be hard for us to find less-welcoming projects without
actual data support. We may develop some dashboards to help us
identify the community health problem.

Just my two cents ：）

Willem Jiang

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On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 12:53 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> Proposed: A formal working group around how we welcome new folks in a 
> consistent and helpful manner.
>
> We get people on this list (and on every dev@ and user@ list at the 
> foundation) asking how to get engaged. We almost always give them unhelpful 
> answers, and send them off to go figure it out on their own.
>
> The Welcome WG would write documentation, and process, around welcoming these 
> new folks, and shepherding them towards engagement. This would include, but 
> not be limited to:
>
> * Guiding projects towards the incubator. This includes the “why would you 
> want to be at Apache? Why would you *NOT* fit at Apache?” documentation that 
> we really don’t have yet.
> * Guiding brand-new contributors towards how, and where, to contribute. This 
> may include working with some of our more welcoming projects to figure out 
> best practice, and our less-welcoming projects to figure out why they are and 
> help them fix that.
> * Working with second-time contributors to encourage best practice. (See 
> https://mikemcquaid.com/stop-mentoring-first-time-contributors/ for thoughts 
> on first- vs second-time contributors)
> * Crafting boilerplate answers to send to folks who show up asking for help 
> getting involved, so that we don’t continue this practice of unhelpful “go 
> figure it out on your own” responses.
> * Maybe work on some kind of a badging program (See 
> https://badges.fedoraproject.org/ if you don’t know what I mean by that) to 
> incentivize and gamify community engagement, for reasons that I would love to 
> talk much more about, but are beyond the scope of this proposal.
>
> What do y’all think?
>
> —
> Rich Bowen
> rbo...@rcbowen.com
>
>
>
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Re: Working groups

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Rich

For ComDev, we are trying to help on the foundation level by providing
the infrastructure or framework for the people to join us, and we also
need to help the project PMC members do their community-building work.
As an OSPOer from ByteDance, I'm doing similar work in the daytime.  I
learned a lot from the ASF projects and incubator, but I needed help
to share all I knew with my colleagues because there were too many
details for them to experience. So, I want to join the workgroup to
gain more use cases and hands-on experience by contributing my
efforts.

Please count me in, and I'm looking forward to working with you :)

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:53 PM Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> Hey, friends,
>
> I’m recovering from FOSDEM, and going through my notes. I would like to 
> propose a somewhat unformed idea that I would like to pursue for the next 
> year or so - the idea of forming working groups here in ComDev, to pursue 
> different tasks.
>
> The reasoning for this is that, while I have eleventy million things that I 
> want to accomplish under the umbrella of of ComDev, I have a tendency to just 
> go do stuff myself, because building consensus is *hard*. That leads, 
> consistently, to three outcomes:
>
> • The stuff doesn’t actually get done, because my list is long
> • Nobody else does it either, because that’s Rich’s project
> • I get super frustrated that nobody is helping, even though I created 
> that situation myself, and know that I created it.
>
> This is hugely unproductive, and I would like to see if we can take a step 
> towards making it easier for people to participate in narrowly defined ways 
> that don’t seem quite as daunting as our current way of operating.
>
> A working group would have a topic (“Website” is the first one that I’m 
> likely to propose), a defined scope of work, and regular check-ins where 
> progress is assessed, and narrowly defined action items can be volunteered 
> for.
>
> I love the way Kubernetes tackles this (see 
> https://github.com/kubernetes/community for some of that) but we tend to 
> believe, here at Apache, that this is too heavy on the structure side. I have 
> come to think, over the past few months, that we need more structure, because 
> our “just go jump in and do stuff!!” approach is hugely intimidating to 
> beginners, and is no better than “figure it out yourself, I’m too busy” in 
> terms of trying to engage new contributors.
>
> Now, I know that this email is very fluffy and philosophical. I’ll be 
> proposing a specific WG later this week, as soon as soon as I can write it 
> up, and asking for folks to participate.
>
> More, and more rambling, thoughts on this topic, here: 
> https://drbacchus.com/the-many-hats-of-a-maintainer/ - if you’re interested.
>
> —
> Rich Bowen
> rbo...@rcbowen.com
>
>
>
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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Hangzhou, China

[Willem Jiang]

Sure!
As it's the end of the year, a lot of people are on vacation.  It may
take a while to start the vote.
I will keep you posted once the vote is passed.

Best Regards,

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 5:41 PM Jun Liu  wrote:
>
> Hi, Willem
>
> According to this guide[1], we need one ComDev PMC to start a discuss thread 
> in private list to bring this request to next step, would you like to do 
> that? Thanks.
>
> > 2. After receiving message on dev@community.apache.org, a ComDev PMC member 
> > will start a thread on the private list to discuss on ALC Chapter establish 
> > proposal.
>
> 1. 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Process+to+establish+an+ALC+Chapter
>
> Regards,
> Jun Liu
>
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> >
> > +1,  I talked with Jun Liu after Community Over Code Asia 2023.
> > I shared the plan of Community Over Code Asia 2024, which will be held
> > in Hangzhou in the summer of 2024.
> > I can see he already knows about the efforts to start the new Chapter of 
> > ALC.
> > I'd be happy to be the mentor of ALC Hangzhou, and we can work closely
> > together for the Community Over Code Asia 2024.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:45 PM Jun Liu  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, there
> >> I am writing this mail to launch a discussion of starting an ALC chapter 
> >> in Hangzhou, China. This idea came to my mind when I was in Beijing 
> >> attending the Community Over Code Asia 2023 conference this September. I 
> >> talked to a couple of ASF Members, PMCs, and Committers from different 
> >> projects about this idea and got many positive feedbacks.
> >>
> >> Hangzhou is one of several cities in China with a considerable amount of 
> >> developers, the headquarters of many world leading tech companies. And 
> >> most importantly, many ASF projects and their main contributors or members 
> >> are from Hangzhou. As far as I know, projects like Apache RocketMQ, Apache 
> >> Dubbo were originally born in Hangzhou, Apache Flink and Apache Seata 
> >> (incubating) have most of their active contributors in Hangzhou. An ALC 
> >> chapter here would provide a platform for those ASF projects and active 
> >> contributors to build and foster a community. A community can also help to 
> >> incubating more projects since Hangzhou is never lack of innovations and 
> >> great ideas.
> >>
> >> I read this new chapter guide[1] laterly and am confident Hangzhou can 
> >> meet the basic requirements (also, I would like to help collect those 
> >> active ASF members and active contributors in Hangzhou later if 
> >> necessary). Would be happy to hear your comments on this idea, thanks.
> >>
> >> 1. 
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Process+to+establish+an+ALC+Chapter
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jun Liu, Apache Dubbo PMC Chair live in Hangzhou❤️
> >>
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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Hangzhou, China

[Willem Jiang]

The Local ASF chapters allow us to meet the local Apache people in
person. You can find more information here[1]
This way, local open-source enthusiasts could get together by hosting
events, publishing articles, making podcasts, etc. Sharing ASF's
successful stories within the local community inspired more developers
and talented college students to join open-source development.
During the pandemic, we held online events to promote the Apache
project and advocate the Apache Way and Open Source culture in China.

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Apache+Local+Community+-+ALC

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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 9:10 PM Michael Sokolov  wrote:
>
> Hi I'm curious about the whole idea of local ASF chapters. It's not
> something I'm familiar with. I guess the idea is a local presence of some
> kind? Do any exist in the US? EU? Elsewhere? What do they do? Meetups, I
> guess? Do they also maintain separate parallel online communities?
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 2:43 AM Jun Liu  wrote:
>
> > Hi, there
> > I am writing this mail to launch a discussion of starting an ALC chapter
> > in Hangzhou, China. This idea came to my mind when I was in Beijing
> > attending the Community Over Code Asia 2023 conference this September. I
> > talked to a couple of ASF Members, PMCs, and Committers from different
> > projects about this idea and got many positive feedbacks.
> >
> > Hangzhou is one of several cities in China with a considerable amount of
> > developers, the headquarters of many world leading tech companies. And most
> > importantly, many ASF projects and their main contributors or members are
> > from Hangzhou. As far as I know, projects like Apache RocketMQ, Apache
> > Dubbo were originally born in Hangzhou, Apache Flink and Apache Seata
> > (incubating) have most of their active contributors in Hangzhou. An ALC
> > chapter here would provide a platform for those ASF projects and active
> > contributors to build and foster a community. A community can also help to
> > incubating more projects since Hangzhou is never lack of innovations and
> > great ideas.
> >
> > I read this new chapter guide[1] laterly and am confident Hangzhou can
> > meet the basic requirements (also, I would like to help collect those
> > active ASF members and active contributors in Hangzhou later if necessary).
> > Would be happy to hear your comments on this idea, thanks.
> >
> > 1.
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Process+to+establish+an+ALC+Chapter
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jun Liu, Apache Dubbo PMC Chair live in Hangzhou❤️
> >
> >
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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Hangzhou, China

[Willem Jiang]

+1,  I talked with Jun Liu after Community Over Code Asia 2023.
I shared the plan of Community Over Code Asia 2024, which will be held
in Hangzhou in the summer of 2024.
I can see he already knows about the efforts to start the new Chapter of ALC.
I'd be happy to be the mentor of ALC Hangzhou, and we can work closely
together for the Community Over Code Asia 2024.

Best regards,


Willem Jiang

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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 4:45 PM Jun Liu  wrote:
>
> Hi, there
> I am writing this mail to launch a discussion of starting an ALC chapter in 
> Hangzhou, China. This idea came to my mind when I was in Beijing attending 
> the Community Over Code Asia 2023 conference this September. I talked to a 
> couple of ASF Members, PMCs, and Committers from different projects about 
> this idea and got many positive feedbacks.
>
> Hangzhou is one of several cities in China with a considerable amount of 
> developers, the headquarters of many world leading tech companies. And most 
> importantly, many ASF projects and their main contributors or members are 
> from Hangzhou. As far as I know, projects like Apache RocketMQ, Apache Dubbo 
> were originally born in Hangzhou, Apache Flink and Apache Seata (incubating) 
> have most of their active contributors in Hangzhou. An ALC chapter here would 
> provide a platform for those ASF projects and active contributors to build 
> and foster a community. A community can also help to incubating more projects 
> since Hangzhou is never lack of innovations and great ideas.
>
> I read this new chapter guide[1] laterly and am confident Hangzhou can meet 
> the basic requirements (also, I would like to help collect those active ASF 
> members and active contributors in Hangzhou later if necessary). Would be 
> happy to hear your comments on this idea, thanks.
>
> 1. 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Process+to+establish+an+ALC+Chapter
>
> Regards,
> Jun Liu, Apache Dubbo PMC Chair live in Hangzhou❤️
>
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Re: Setting up Git Project under comdev for Community Over Code EU

[Willem Jiang]

FYI， ApacheCon Asia conference website[1] uses Hugo with a customer theme[2].

[1]https://github.com/apache/apachecon-acasia
[2]https://github.com/apache/apachecon-acasia/tree/master/themes/apachecon


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On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 7:35 PM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > it might be simpler to manage if we used this PMC instead - although
> > > that requires some consensus from this PMC first to own something that
> > > really belongs to conferences.
> >
>
> Yeah. That's what I am really looking for :).  I would also be fine to
> create
> a new group ? PMC? for that if ComDev is not the right place. Maybe there
> are ways to set up other "entities" for the ASF structure that could serve
> the purpose ? I do not (yet) know all the options - but I believe PMC is not
> the only option to have a separate "LDAP group".
>
> > One note: do you *specifically* want to copy the ComDev site repo?  Or
> > > do you want to start with the infra-supported (but simpler design)
>
>
> Not really. We can start from scratch, I was referring more to the
> integrations
> that we get from INFRA: .asf.yaml, emails sent to specific discussion lists
> we
> can customize - generally following best practices there.
>
>
> >
> My experience with both Hugo and Pelican is that Hugo is easier to
> > customise.
> >
>
> Yes we also prefer Hugo. Airflow Summit Website - prepared entirely by the
> Software
> Guru team - our producers - is based on Hugo, so that would be our
> preference as well.
>
> https://github.com/softwareguru/airflowsummit-website
>
>
> >
> > > template repo they recommend for new projects?
> > >https://github.com/apache/template-site
> >
> > I don't think that is production ready.
> >
>
> We have quite a lot of time before our website will be public (at the very
> least
> 3-4 months), so we are ok to take it slowly, follow the right process, and
> then
> even contribute back and make them more ready - if that would be a good
> start,
> We are happy to do so. We could eventually also add an "ASF conference
> template"
> for others and possibly pave the way to follow the same "process" (but I am
> usually
> of the opinion that in order to make something reusable, you have to make
> it usable
> first - so that would likely be a next step and we could "lead by
> example").
>
>
> > >
> > > No.  AFAIK any direct write access to /apache repos can only come from
> > > ASF committers who have signed an ICLA.  But that's solvable for a
> > > special case like this, by having an officer or PMC simply agree to
> > > invite those outside individuals at Software Guru to be committers here.
> > >   Note also that individuals can be made committers, not companies.
> >
> >
> I believe signing ICLA by those individuals from Software Guru is not a
> problem at all,
> and they will be perfectly happy to act in their "individual" capacity. I
> know them personally
> very well and I am sure this is not a problem. And on a personal (about
> individuals) note -
> they are so much personally involved with other Apache conferences
> (Airflow, Beam)
> and now running the Community Over Code EU, that it would make absolutely
> sense to make them committers.
>
> I think it's more of a question - if they are made committers in ComDev,
> they will have
> access to the main ASF community site, so possibly having a separate
> "group"? makes
> more sense.
>
> So I think the main question I have now - is it really possible to have it
> in comdev?
>
> Or should we (any leads on how?) create a new "group" to manage it.
>
> J.

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Re: Standardise on 'main' as the default branch?

[Willem Jiang]

+1 for it.

Willem Jiang

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On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 8:11 PM sebb  wrote:
>
> All bar one of the 4 comdev Git repos use 'main' as the default branch.
>
> I think we should standardise on that going forward, and change the
> default branch for comdev-site.
>
> Agreed?
>
> Sebb
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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Xi'an

[Willem Jiang]

It looks good，as we have two ASF members and another two PMC members already.
Please add me into the member list as a mentor :)

Willem Jiang

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:02 AM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Reinforcement:
> We have the following initial members:
>
> * Calvin Kirs (kirs, ASF Member, Incubator, and Geode PMC Member,
> Baremaps mentor)
> * Yikun Jiang (yikun, ASF Member, Spark Committer)
> * Jiafeng Zhang(jiafengzheng, Doris PMC Member)
> * Di Wu ( diwu,Doris committer)
> * Jiyuan Hao (jiyuanhao, Inlong PMC member)
> * Tao Li (CarbonData Committer)
>
> We look forward to a favorable reply.
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:30 PM Yuanhao Ji  wrote:
> >
> > +1 from me. Looking forward to communicating with all friends!
> >
> > Xin Wang  于2023年3月17日周五 16:33写道：
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> peacewong  于2023年3月17日周五 15:38写道：
> >>>
> >>> +1, Good Luck!
> >>>
> >>> Eason Chen  于2023年3月17日周五 14:34写道：
> >>>
> >>> > My big +1, Good Luck!
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:14 AM wudi <676366...@qq.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks! CalvinKirs.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I am very happy with the establishment of ALC in Xi’an!
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > 2023年3月17日 上午9:47，Jiafeng.Zhang  写道：
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > This is very good news
> >>> > > > As a member of Apache Doris PMC, if ALC Xi'an can be established, we
> >>> > will be able to promote local open source development in the name of ALC
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > -
> >>> > > > Best wishes！
> >>> > > > Jiafeng.Zhang / 张家锋
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Yikun Jiang mailto:yi...@apache.org>>
> >>> > 于2023年3月16日周四 22:57写道：
> >>> > > > Thanks! CalvinKirs.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > +1 from me.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > I am also exciting about ALC Xi'an setup.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Thursday, March 16, 2023, Willem Jiang  >>> > <mailto:willem.ji...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> > > > my big +1，I'd be happy to be a mentor to help setup ALC Xi'an.
> >>> > > > Please check out this link[1] for more information.
> >>> > > > [1]
> >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Apache+Local+Community+-+ALC#ApacheLocalCommunityALC-HowtoapplytosetupALCChapter
> >>> > <
> >>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Apache+Local+Community+-+ALC#ApacheLocalCommunityALC-HowtoapplytosetupALCChapter
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Willem Jiang
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> >>> > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:26 PM Calvin Kirs  >>> > > >  >>> > k...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Hi,
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > I'm an ASF member and I know many Apache project developers from
> >>> > > > > Xi'an. If ALC Xi'an can be established, then I think we can gather
> >>> > > > > everyone together in the name of ALC to promote the local 
> >>> > > > > development
> >>> > > > > of ASF.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > --
> >>> > > > > Best wishes！
> >>> > > > > CalvinKirs
> >>> > > > >
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> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > --
> >>> > > > 张家峰
> >>> > >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thanks,
> >> Xin
>
>
>
> --
> Best wishes！
> CalvinKirs

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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Xi'an

[Willem Jiang]

my big +1，I'd be happy to be a mentor to help setup ALC Xi'an.
Please check out this link[1] for more information.
[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Apache+Local+Community+-+ALC#ApacheLocalCommunityALC-HowtoapplytosetupALCChapter

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On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:26 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm an ASF member and I know many Apache project developers from
> Xi'an. If ALC Xi'an can be established, then I think we can gather
> everyone together in the name of ALC to promote the local development
> of ASF.
>
> --
> Best wishes！
> CalvinKirs
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Re: [Discussion] ASF Booth at FOSSASIA 2023

[Willem Jiang]

I just submitted a talk and hope to see you guys there.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 8:38 PM  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2023-03-15 at 15:58 +0530, Priya Sharma wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply Rich!
> > But, unfortunately, we won't be having our booth there due to a lack
> > of volunteers.
> >
> > I hope you have a fantastic time at the event!
>
> Ok. Well, perhaps I'll see you there anyway.
>
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 at 19:36,  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2023-02-28 at 18:27 +0530, Priya Sharma wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I recently came to know about FOSSASIA. It develops Open Source
> > > > software and hardware solutions with a global developer community
> > > > from
> > > > its base in Asia and organizes Open Technology events around the
> > > > year.
> > > >
> > > > FOSSASIA's annual Summit in Singapore is the premier Open
> > > > Technology
> > > > event in Asia for developers, tech companies, and contributors.
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > > FOSSASIA Summit 2023 will be an in-person and online event,
> > > > taking
> > > > place from Thursday 13th April to Saturday 15th April at Lifelong
> > > > Learning Institute Singapore.
> > > > I believe it would be a good event to have Apache Software
> > > > Foundation's presence.
> > > >
> > > > I reached out to the organizers and they are happy to offer us a
> > > > free
> > > > booth along with three complimentary event tickets.
> > > >
> > > > Is someone planning to be at the event and would like to
> > > > volunteer
> > > > for
> > > > the booth (maybe those residing in or near Singapore)?
> > >
> > >
> > > I will be speaking at the event, and can volunteer *some* time for
> > > a
> > > booth, but am not able to run it, manage it, or staff it full-time,
> > > as
> > > I have other obligations that week.
> > >
> > > --Rich
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Re: Re: Authorization required for translating “Trillions and Trillions Served”

[Willem Jiang]

Hi tison

Here is the transcript translation[1] ALC Beijing did two years ago.
Please feel free to take it as a sample.

[1]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation/blob/master/subtitles/Trillions%20and%20Trillions%20Served%20-%20%20-%20%20documentary%20feature%20on%20The%20Apache%20Software%20Foundation.srt

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:16 PM tison  wrote:
>
> Thank Ted, for starting this thread!
>
> I'm gonna translate this documentary's manuscript into Chinese and perhaps
> make some comments. This, from my perspective, can be a kind of remix and
> need some approvals from the authors. If we said the documentary is under
> CC-BY 4.0 or so, it could be trivial to follow. But I don't find such
> COPYING info in the original video :)
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Liu Ted  于2022年12月19日周一 22:58写道：
>
> > Dear Myrle, Thanks.
> >
> > Hi Mr. Joe Brockmeier, Any advice?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Ted Liu
> >
> >
> > 2022 年 12 月 19 日周一 19:48，Myrle Krantz
> >  写道：
> > I'm not sure whether the ASF owns the copyright (ie work for hire) or
> > whether that remained with the creator of the film.  M (ie Joe
> > Brockmeier) should have access to the original contract so they should be
> > able to answer that.  I'd expect though that, if we do own the copyright,
> > we'd want to use it to enable things like translations.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:31 PM Liu Ted 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Does anyone know what authorization is required by the ASF if one
> > > wanted to translate and/or use the content of this "Trillions and
> > Trillions
> > > Served"?
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUt2nb0mgwg
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Ted Liu
> >
> >

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Re: Request to add the Kvrocks logo

[Willem Jiang]

I just found that the Kvrocks logo[1] is not the same as the one on
the website[2].

[1]https://www.apache.org/logos/#kvrocks
[2]https://kvrocks.apache.org/

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On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 1:27 PM hulk  wrote:
>
> Thanks all, will commit the Kvrocks logo if no other objections.
>
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 at 22:24, Alfejik Liu  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you everyone, current logo is our final decision.
> >
> > On 2022/06/01 06:05:08 Yuan Wang wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thank you everyone, current logo is designed by kvrocks contributors and
> > PPMC. One "K"(Key) on disk means that kvrocks is a key value database which
> > persists data on disk. It is our final decision.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Yuan Wang
> > >
> > > On 2022/05/31 09:55:04 hulk wrote:
> > > > Thanks to  Willem's reminder. Will involve them in this thread.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 15:10, Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Not sure if this logo is the final decision of kvrocks PPMC.
> > > > > If it is not, we need to get all the PPMC involved in this kind of
> > > > > decision making process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > >
> > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM Liu Ted 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Hulk,
> > > > > > I'd suggest the Kvrocks PPMC do some research using some sort of
> > logo
> > > > > image comparison mechanism available on the web or search engine
> > first and
> > > > > post your research results to the ComDev list. Should there be no
> > other
> > > > > objections within a certain period of time, you may proceed tbe
> > commit.
> > > > > Other podlings might have the similar practices which you may ask
> > around.
> > > > > > My 2￠,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ted Liu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   2022 年 5 月 30 日周一 22:25，hulk 写道：   Hi,
> > > > > > According to the Apache Podling Website Checks[1], we need to add
> > the
> > > > > Kvrocks logo to the ASF homepage.
> > > > > > Can comdev PMCs help to have a look before committing the logo？
> > > > > > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/kvrocks
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > > - Hulk Lin
> > > > > >
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Re: Request to add the Kvrocks logo

[Willem Jiang]

Not sure if this logo is the final decision of kvrocks PPMC.
If it is not, we need to get all the PPMC involved in this kind of
decision making process.

Willem Jiang

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On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:11 PM Liu Ted  wrote:
>
> Hi Hulk,
> I'd suggest the Kvrocks PPMC do some research using some sort of logo image 
> comparison mechanism available on the web or search engine first and post 
> your research results to the ComDev list. Should there be no other objections 
> within a certain period of time, you may proceed tbe commit. Other podlings 
> might have the similar practices which you may ask around.
> My 2￠,
>
> Ted Liu
>
>   2022 年 5 月 30 日周一 22:25，hulk 写道：   Hi,
> According to the Apache Podling Website Checks[1], we need to add the Kvrocks 
> logo to the ASF homepage.
> Can comdev PMCs help to have a look before committing the logo？
> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/kvrocks
> --
> Best Regards,
> - Hulk Lin
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

[Willem Jiang]

If we take the maintenance of an OpenSource project as a business, we
need to figure out the market share of the OpenSource project.
The more popular a project, the more easy we can get the money from
the user of the project.  I think that is why TideLift has a bar for
the supported OpenSource project.

I'm not quite sure about the relationship between  "Support Inc." and ASF.
ASF is a non-profit organization and a vendor neutral organization.
ASF is not supposed to endorse the "Support Inc" to provide commercial
support for Apache projects.
I can see there are some PMC members started a new business companies
behind the Apache projects, even though they are still contributing to
the project, but they cannot use the Apache project branding for their
commercial product. I don't think we can mix charity work with
business work together in the same organization, we should put a clean
line between the ASF and the company.

Just my 2 cents.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 6:32 AM Matt Sicker  wrote:
>
> I think you're mostly right about that. Even a Support Inc would have
> the same issue that PMCs have here: just because you're an Apache
> project doesn't mean everything works the same as any other Apache
> project. Having some sort of central business services to support
> businesses seems to mirror the structure of PMCs here, so it makes
> sense philosophically. The more I think about this, though, the more
> it sounds like some sort of startup incubator.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:08 AM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> >
> > > I thought the point of this idea was to make OSS development sustainable,
> > not to train us all to be founders of startups.
> >
> > Yes. I think this is a really nice summary of what my point is. Thanks for
> > putting it so succinctly.
> > I personally think if you want to make a living out of the OSS
> > contribution, you actually have to think like a small startup founder
> > (where your contribution job is your "product").
> >
> > J.
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 6:01 PM Matt Sicker  wrote:
> >
> > > I thought the point of this idea was to make OSS development sustainable,
> > > not to train us all to be founders of startups. The bar to contributors is
> > > already high enough as it is (who has the time, energy, and knowledge to
> > > spend here? I’d assume mostly well-off people).
> > >
> > > For comparison, projects developed by a company like Red Hat benefit from
> > > name recognition of Red Hat more so than any individual developers there. 
> > > I
> > > get the impression that a sort of Support Inc would leverage name
> > > recognition and connections with the people who already do the work.
> > >
> > > If projects need their own companies to do all this, then only end user
> > > applications will thrive at Apache, and all the libraries and developer
> > > tools will suffer. Applications depend on these things, but that’s a
> > > problem for next quarter, not the current one.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Matt Sicker
> > >
> > > > On May 10, 2022, at 09:02, Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So I think we are talking about two different approaches then and hence
> > > the
> > > > mi understanding. I was thinking more about solving all the
> > > > legal/administrative barriers.
> > > >
> > > > At least that's what I see as a much, much bigger problem than actually
> > > > doing marketing and finding stakeholders willing to pay for your job 
> > > > (AKA
> > > > "selling" your job).
> > > >
> > > > I think it would be great to identify what is **really** the problem we
> > > > want to solve and what is the biggest obstacle for those who want to 
> > > > earn
> > > > money from contributing (I think the survey from the diversity team 
> > > > might
> > > > help us in understanding that).
> > > >
> > > > My personal experience - I think no-one will be able to sell and promote
> > > > your job as good as you. And when you do a good job, it's easy. Just
> > > speak
> > > > about it - at conferences. blog posts, meetups, conferences. There is no
> > > > better marketing. My personal experience is that for individuals and
> > > small
> > > > group of people the best salespeople are those who do the job - and as
> > > long
> > > > as they do it in a smart way, and what they sell is a small team of
> 

Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

[Willem Jiang]

I just added the CFP information about ApacheCon Asia 2022.
Hope I can catch up with the train this month.

Willem Jiang

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Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 11:03 PM Josh Fischer  wrote:
>
> Gotcha.  I’ll send it out tomorrow!
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:49 AM Sam Ruby  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 10:39 AM Josh Fischer  wrote:
> > >
> > > I remember us agreeing to send it out on May 5.  Since I'm not a member,
> > > I'll leave that up to either Rich or Sam to send out.
> >
> > I had sent the last one out on the first Tuesday of the month, which
> > happened to be the 5th last month.  I'd recommend following a similar
> > pattern as that will avoid weekends.  For some months, this may need
> > to be adjusted for holidays.
> >
> > To me, one of the purposes of this exercise is to see if someone other
> > than the usual hyper-volunteers steps up, so I won't be sending the
> > email.
> >
> > But I am a moderator for that list, and if I see content that matches
> > the wiki page in the moderation queue this week, I will approve it.
> > Whether the person sending it is an ASF member or not won't affect
> > whether or not I approve the content.
> >
> > - Sam Ruby
> >
> > > Thank ya
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 9:21 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The last one we sent, Sam sent directly to the members-notify list -
> > > > which does, indeed, need to be done by a member.
> > > >
> > > > I've added one more (member-specific) item to the highlights. I feel
> > > > like we're missing something important, but I cannot remember what it
> > > > is.
> > > >
> > > > What is our send date?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 08:57 -0500, Josh Fischer wrote:
> > > > > The newsletter has been updated and just about ready for sending
> > > > > out.. Not
> > > > > sure of the whos or hows of getting this across the foundation.  Is
> > > > > there
> > > > > a preferred way that I can get this distributed?  Is this something
> > > > > only
> > > > > a member can/should do?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 4:20 PM Josh Fischer 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We have room for another bullet point or two if anyone wants to add
> > > > > > anything to the critical committer communications letter.   We have
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > two weeks before it will be sent out. Link below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=210078929
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Josh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:32 AM Sam Ruby 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 10:30 AM Josh Fischer
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Created a starter with a few fun facts here:
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/0YyFD
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Feel free to add or take away as you see fit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > THANK YOU!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Josh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Sam Ruby
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 8:40 AM Sam Ruby
> > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Message has been posted.  Next time it probably should be a
> > > > > > > > > pure plain
> > > > > > > > > text version.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anybody want to get started on May?  Create the wiki page,
> > > > > > > > > put some
> > > > > > > > > content there, and then send it out the first week in May
> > > > > > > > > after others
> > > > > > > > > have been given the opportunity to contribute.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Sam Ruby
>

Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

[Willem Jiang]

big +1 to host the new letter draft to the wiki so every member can
add some news on that.


Willem Jiang

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 4:08 AM Sam Ruby  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:46 PM Rich Bowen  wrote:
> >
> > Ok, looks like we have three volunteers - Josh Fisher, Dave Fisher, and
> > Andrew Wetmore. So I don't feel like I'm doing this alone, which is
> > good.
> >
> > What we need to do still is:
> >
> > 1) Pitch this to the membership to determine whether this should land
> > on members@ or members-notify@
> > 2) Write sample newsletter: https://hackmd.io/0eeIQ7wDQnKr-LAgN6QqLA
> > 3) Figure out intake tooling (could just be a Google Form) for getting
> > content in
> > 4) Figure out our schedule/deadlines to ensure that we get this out in
> > a predictable cadence.
> >
> > I'm going to draft a proposal to send to members@ (probably won't
> > happen today) and run it back past this thread, unless someone beats me
> > to it.
>
> I'm a big fan of Cunninham's law:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law
>
> Accordingly, I've taken the sample newsletter and posted it here:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASFP/Member+Moment+-+April+2022
>
> I've changed March to April.  Added a mention of the June members
> meeting.  Changed the link to the ASF board meeting to the April
> meeting.  Added a link to the whimsy page that tracks members watch.
>
> The advantage of the "ASFP" wiki is that it is member private and all
> ASF members have update access.
>
> Unless there is a strong objection or better proposal the content of
> that page as it exists on April 5th will be sent to
> members-notify,subject to approval by Joe Brockmeier.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> > --Rich
> >
> > On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 10:00 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > > Problem: Members (and, more generally, committers) are less engaged
> > > with
> > > the larger Foundation than at any point in our history. Meanwhile,
> > > the
> > > mechanisms for getting more engaged (eg, the members mailing list)
> > > are a
> > > firehose of unrelated content that is very frustrating to the casual
> > > participant - even those who desire a deeper engagement - and, in
> > > practice, are completely off-putting. Committers, meanwhile, have no
> > > real avenue, outside of their project, for further engagement.
> > >
> > > I've been struggling with ways to address this for years, and they
> > > all
> > > tend to founder on the rocks of "People should just be doing X!"
> > > which,
> > > in each case, is true, but also dismissive and ultimately unhelpful.
> > >
> > > I would like to propose that we are more proactive about reaching out
> > > to
> > > our community in tiny, consumable bites, that hint at a larger feast
> > > that they're missing out on.
> > >
> > > Here's my proposal, but I cannot (and will not) tackle this alone,
> > > because that guarantees failure, which guaranteed less participation
> > > the
> > > next time we suggest something like this.
> > >
> > > Proposal/Brainstorming doc: https://hackmd.io/JaLaGy56T8qT3ODABLVswA
> > >
> > > It's an intentionally simple idea - a minimum viable idea, one might
> > > say.
> > >
> > > I want to know who's going to help make it a reality. Not
> > > particularly
> > > interested in "that's a great idea", as much as "I will help make it
> > > happen."
> > >
> > > This will involve engagement with Events, M, and Board, at a
> > > minimum,
> > > but over time we'd hopefully engage everyone at the Foundation in
> > > content creation. But, even then, I want to keep this tiny and
> > > consumable - content that you can absorb in 2-5 minutes, always with
> > > a
> > > "to get more engaged ..." call to action aspect to it.
> > >
> > > Come help me develop community.
> > >
> > > --Rich
> >
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Re: Idea: Monthly Members Moment/Critical Committer Communications

[Willem Jiang]

Once a year member meetings are a bit long for us.
The regular newsletter can help us to create a rhythm for the community.

Please count me in, I really like the idea and want to make it happen.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:46 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> Ok, looks like we have three volunteers - Josh Fisher, Dave Fisher, and
> Andrew Wetmore. So I don't feel like I'm doing this alone, which is
> good.
>
> What we need to do still is:
>
> 1) Pitch this to the membership to determine whether this should land
> on members@ or members-notify@
> 2) Write sample newsletter: https://hackmd.io/0eeIQ7wDQnKr-LAgN6QqLA
> 3) Figure out intake tooling (could just be a Google Form) for getting
> content in
> 4) Figure out our schedule/deadlines to ensure that we get this out in
> a predictable cadence.
>
> I'm going to draft a proposal to send to members@ (probably won't
> happen today) and run it back past this thread, unless someone beats me
> to it.
>
> --Rich
>
> On Thu, 2022-03-10 at 10:00 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > Problem: Members (and, more generally, committers) are less engaged
> > with
> > the larger Foundation than at any point in our history. Meanwhile,
> > the
> > mechanisms for getting more engaged (eg, the members mailing list)
> > are a
> > firehose of unrelated content that is very frustrating to the casual
> > participant - even those who desire a deeper engagement - and, in
> > practice, are completely off-putting. Committers, meanwhile, have no
> > real avenue, outside of their project, for further engagement.
> >
> > I've been struggling with ways to address this for years, and they
> > all
> > tend to founder on the rocks of "People should just be doing X!"
> > which,
> > in each case, is true, but also dismissive and ultimately unhelpful.
> >
> > I would like to propose that we are more proactive about reaching out
> > to
> > our community in tiny, consumable bites, that hint at a larger feast
> > that they're missing out on.
> >
> > Here's my proposal, but I cannot (and will not) tackle this alone,
> > because that guarantees failure, which guaranteed less participation
> > the
> > next time we suggest something like this.
> >
> > Proposal/Brainstorming doc: https://hackmd.io/JaLaGy56T8qT3ODABLVswA
> >
> > It's an intentionally simple idea - a minimum viable idea, one might
> > say.
> >
> > I want to know who's going to help make it a reality. Not
> > particularly
> > interested in "that's a great idea", as much as "I will help make it
> > happen."
> >
> > This will involve engagement with Events, M, and Board, at a
> > minimum,
> > but over time we'd hopefully engage everyone at the Foundation in
> > content creation. But, even then, I want to keep this tiny and
> > consumable - content that you can absorb in 2-5 minutes, always with
> > a
> > "to get more engaged ..." call to action aspect to it.
> >
> > Come help me develop community.
> >
> > --Rich
>
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Re: SPDX identifiers in Apache projects

[Willem Jiang]

According to the example of SPDX ID[1], if we want to adopt the  SPDX
ID, we may need to add a comment line in the file header just like
below

// SPDX-License-Identifier: Apache-2.0

I think we can add it before the License header of Apache.

Just my 2 cents.

Willem Jiang

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On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 8:12 PM kezhenxu94@apache  wrote:
>
> Both SPDX identifier (short form) and full boilerplate can be used to apply 
> the Apache License. And because ASF has our own specific template that is 
> related to our use of a CLA, so we required ASF projects to use this specific 
> one[2].
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#headers
>
> > On Mar 19, 2022, at 17:03, tison  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Recently I notice the SPDX identifiers format defined by the Linux
> > Foundation for machine
> > processing of license information based on the SPDX License Identifiers
> > that are here available:
> > http://spdx.org/licenses/.
> >
> > I can see that all of Apache project use it's own License header
> > template[1] and curious what's
> > the suggestions on using SPDX identifiers in Apache projects. Can an Apache
> > project adopts both
> > conventions? Is it encouraged or acceptable a general project using Apache
> > License using the
> > SPDX identifiers as license header?
> >
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/skywalking-eyes/blob/eb0e0b091ea41213f712f622797e37526ca1e5d6/assets/header-templates/Apache-2.0-ASF.txt
>
> —
> Zhenxu Ke (柯振旭)
> GitHub @kezhenxu94
>
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Re: [ALC Shenzhen] Text "shenzhen" in logo is not clear

[Willem Jiang]

Maybe we can do some localization on the log by adding some Chinese characters.
@Eason, I'm not sure if you have the svg version ALC avatar file,
 It's a xml file and it is editable with a normal text editor.
You can do some experiments with the SVG file yourself.

Cheers,

Willem Jiang

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On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 9:34 AM Eason Chen  wrote:
>
> Hi, Swapnil
> Thanks for your reply, it is not very urgent for the recent promotion to be
> finished, you can take your convenience for this any time.
>
> Best Regards,
> Eason
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:11 PM Swapnil M Mane 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Eason for sharing it.
> > I will have a look into this and if needed will discuss it with
> > Kenneth Paskett (who helped us with designing these logos) too and see
> > what we can do best here.
> > Is it a priority item or we can look into this next week?
> >
> > - Best regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 4:13 PM Eason Chen 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, community
> > >
> > > I'm from ALC Shenzhen, The logo I got from here[1] which also in the
> > attachment is used for the promotion of some community activities, but the
> > text "shenzhen" is difficult to be recognized because the color is too
> > light and not prominent, especially in the case of shrinking, can you
> > update the design of the logo again? thanks.
> > >
> > > [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Shenzhen
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Eason Chen
> > > Chapter Leader of ALC Shenzhen
> > >
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Re: The Art of Community

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Rich

Thanks for sharing this book with us.
FYI， There is a Chinese translation version called 《社群运营的艺术--如何让你的社群更有归属感》

Willem Jiang

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 2:38 AM Rich Bowen  wrote:
>
> I want to recommend something I'm reading right now - The Art of
> Community, by Charles Vogl. I regret that I didn't read it years ago.
>
> I'm two chapters in, and have had dozens of moments where I have been
> floored by the insight, and the clear ways of talking about what makes a
> community.
>
> The first chapter is about how we define a community - what it's
> *about*, or *for*. What the shared story is that makes us a community.
> It is full of insights that have helped me focus things I feel I have
> known for years but never had words for, and also opened my eyes to some
> things that I simply had never thought about.
>
> My impression so far is that the ASF does all seven of the things that
> Vogl says are critical for a healthy community, but while some of them
> are done intentionally, many of them we kind of fell into accidentally.
> Thinking more intentionally about them seems like a useful exercise.
>
> Note: There's another book called The Art of Community by Jono Bacon. I
> have not read that one.
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Re: Effective ways of getting individuals funded to work on ASF projects

[Willem Jiang]

+1.
It will make the maintainer's life easier with this collected information.
When we bring the commercial support to the ASF project daily
development,  we still need to follow certain rules to avoid the
conflict with the Apache way we believed.

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 1:08 AM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
>
> Thanks Roman for the initiative. +1 on it.
>
> I think this might allow us to focus on what we (ASF) think is really
> important and needed by the individuals who work on ASF projects, and set
> our boundaries and limits their individual approach as well as clear limits
> and boundaries for the organisations that would like to apply - and then
> let any entity who wants to help to see how they can fit-in.
>
> Happy to help with hashing it out.
>
> J.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 3:30 PM Bertrand Delacretaz 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Le mer. 2 mars 2022 à 15:19, Roman Shaposhnik  a
> > écrit :
> > > ...Once we've collected that type of info -- we can then sort of
> > "evaluate
> > > vendors" against that list and see what they are missing, etc. We can
> > > even issue a wide "call to apply" for various companies if we feel like
> > it...
> >
> > +1, I like the idea!
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: Welcome Willem Jiang as a New PMC Member

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks everyone，
it is an honor for me to be a part of ComDev PMC.

Willem Jiang

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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:50 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The ComDev PMC has invited Willem Jiang to become a member of the committee
> and we are glad to announce that he has accepted the nomination.
>
> Willem has been a great open-source supporter, deeply understand Apache Way 
> and
> has helped organise and run various events in China. He is actively involved
> in the ALC initiative in China. He is the chapter lead of ALC Beijing
> and a mentor of ALC Shenzhen.
> Also, he has been an integral part of ApacheCon Asia and played a
> vital role in organising and executing ApacheCon Asia.
> Along with his active participation in community development, he is
> also part of numerous other Apache projects as well.
>
> Please join me in welcoming Willem and congratulating him on his new role.
>
> Thanks,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> On behalf of the ComDev PMC
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Re: Thoughts on alternative communication channels for our communities

[Willem Jiang]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:06 AM tison  wrote:

> Of course, it requires more community members who can answer user questions.
>
> To sum up, you CAN have multiple channels for answering user questions and
> collect best practices. Whether or not it's fragmented is up to (1) whether
> or not you conclude FAQ into (central) docs and (2) whether or not you can
> covered all of those channels so that users get them all responsive.
>

I agree we can provide multiple channels for user engagement.
I think we can focus on a main entry for knowledge sharing, and
other channels for information sharing.
Sometimes we just start a small talk or send a link of FAQ in the
instance massage channel.

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Re: [Announcement] - Establishing ALC Shenzhen Chapter

[Willem Jiang]

It's great to see there are more and more ALC Chapters in China.

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On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:47 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> ComDev PMC is pleased to announce our next Apache Local Community [1]
> ALC Chapter - ALC Shenzhen [2] and Eason Chen as ALC Shenzhen Chapter
> lead.
> We have the following members in ALC Shenzhen:
>
> Willem Ning Jiang (Mentor)
> -- ASF Member
> -- Chair, (Servicecomb)
> -- PMC (APISIX, Camel, CXF, Incubator, IoTDB, RocketMQ, ServiceMix,
> ShardingSphere, SkyWalking)
>
> Ted Liu (Mentor)
> -- ASF Member
> -- PMC (ComDev, Incubator)
> -- Committer (ECharts)
>
> Von Gosling (Mentor)
> -- ASF Member
> -- PMC (APISIX, Dubbo, RocketMQ, Incubator, ShardingSphere)
>
> Ming Wen
> -- ASF Member
> -- Chair, APISIX
>
> Liang Chen
> -- ASF Member
> -- Chair, CarbonData
>
> Jerry Shao
> -- ASF Member
> -- PMC (Incubator, Spark)
>
> Sammi Chen
> -- Chair, OZone
> -- PMC (Hadoop)
>
> Zhenxu Ke
> -- PMC (Incubator, SkyWalking)
> -- Committer (DolphinScheduler, Dubbo)
> -- Mentor (MXNet, SeaTunnel)
>
> Du Heng
> -- PMC (RocketMQ)
>
> Zili Chen
> -- PMC (Curator)
> -- Committer (Incubator, Flink)
>
> Lin Lin
> -- PMC (Pulsar)
>
> Eason Chen (Chen Guangsheng) (Chapter Lead)
> -- PPMC (EventMesh)
> -- Committer (Incubator, RocketMQ)
>
> Xiao Yu
> -- Committer (Incubator, ShardingSphere)
>
> Guocheng Zhang
> -- PPMC(InLong)
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> Weiming Xue
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> Charles Zhang
> -- PPMC (InLong)
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> Shuai Di
> -- PPMC (Linkis)
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> Heping Wang
> -- PPMC (Linkis)
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> Please join me in congratulating the ALC Shenzhen Chapter and wishing
> them the best luck for their future events.
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
> [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-shenzhen
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
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Re: Welcome Ted Liu as a New PMC Member

[Willem Jiang]

Congratulations Ted!

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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:48 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> The ComDev PMC has invited Ted Liu to become a member of the committee
> and we are glad to announce that he has accepted the nomination.
>
> Ted has been a great open-source supporter, is active on our lists and
> has helped organise and run events in China. He is actively involved
> in the ALC initiative in China, Incubator, Fundraising and has been an
> integral part of ApacheCon Asia.
>
> Please join me in welcoming Ted and congratulating him on his new role.
>
> Thanks,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> On behalf of the ComDev PMC
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Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macao Greater Bay Area(GBA) (or Shenzhen, as a starter, if GBA is not applicable)

[Willem Jiang]

ASFAIK, currently we don't have any committer or PMC member in the
chapter proposal who is based in Macau or Hong Kong.
That is why I suggested applying to the Shenzhen chapter instead.
As we are running the Apache Local Community，holding the meetups in
the local city is our main target.
We can think big, but let's start from small first.

Willem Jiang

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 8:40 AM vongosling  wrote:
>
> Over the past three years, there have been more and more Apache Projects,
> Apache Committers from Guangdong, Macao, and even HongKong.For preparing
> this charter, I have felt their passion and love for apache culture. I'm
> very happy to be a mentor to help this event from creation to launch in
> just one month. There was a positive discussion and many constructive ideas
> were seen. I would love to see more high-quality projects driven by the
> local community, more active apache culture champions.
>
> As for names, I'd like to ask if we can combine three cities with names
> like GBA. I think it's more helpful to help more GBA Bay Area guyes come to
> Apache, and I'd love to help the caller to discover more Apache Open-Source
> Enthusiasts from this area.
>
>
>
> Swapnil M Mane  于2021年9月16日周四 下午9:05写道：
>
> > Great, thank you Eason for initiating the thread.
> > Delighted to see the mentors and members that interested in
> > establishing the new chapter.
> >
> > As a next step, let's wait for few days (a week), in case any more
> > members from GBA or Shenzhen area
> > express their interest after looking at this thread.
> >
> > After this, I will sync with the interested team and will share a few
> > resources and talk about the proposed chapter lead.
> > And then, will proceed with executing the next steps and share the
> > proposal with ComDev PMC.
> > More details on this process to establish a new chapter can be found at
> > [1].
> >
> > Thanks again, looking forward to it.
> >
> > [1] https://s.apache.org/establish-alc-chapter
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane,
> > Chair, ALC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:03 PM Eason Chen 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, ComDev PMC
> > >
> > > In order to provide software for the public good through the Apache Way
> > in
> > > the Greater Bay Area(GBA), spread awareness on Apache in local
> > communities,
> > > host various events for local open source enthusiasts that include
> > > students, developers, and the business community, share information about
> > > ASF, The Apache Way, and various Apache  projects, bring together project
> > > users and developers. I am very happy to apply to establish an ALC
> > > Chapter(ACL GBA).
> > >
> > >
> > > ACL GBA Mentors：
> > >
> > > - Willem Jiang （Apache ID: ningjiang, ASF member，IPMC member，Apache Local
> > > Community Chapter Beijing Leader, PMC of Apache Apisix, Apache Camel,
> > > Apache CXF, ,Apache RocketMQ, Apache ServiceMix, Apache ServiceComb,
> > Apache
> > > SkyWalking，Apache Shardingsphere，Apache Iotdb )
> > >
> > > - Ted Liu (Apache id: tedliu, ASF member, Incubator PMC member,
> > Fundraising
> > > Committee member, Sponsor Ambassador)
> > >
> > > - VonGosing (Apache id:vongosling, ASF member, IPMC member)
> > >
> > >
> > > ACL GBA Members:
> > >
> > > - Eason Chen (Apache id: chenguangsheng, Apache EventMesh(incubating)
> > PPMC)
> > >
> > > - Ming Wen（Apache ID：wenming，ASF member, Apache Incubator PMC，Apache
> > APISIX
> > > PMC Chair）
> > >
> > > - Heng Du（Apache ID：duhengforever Apache RocketMQ PMC）
> > >
> > > - Liang Chen (Apache id: chenliang613, ASF member, Apache Incubator PMC,
> > > Apache CarbonData PMC Chair)
> > >
> > > - Zhenxu Ke (Apache ID: kezhenxu94, Apache Incubator PMC, Apache
> > SkyWalking
> > > PMC)
> > >
> > > - Guocheng Zhang (Apache ID：gosonzhang，Apache InLong (incubating) PPMC)
> > >
> > > - XiaoYu (Apache ID: xiaoyu Apache ShenYu (incubator) PPMC)
> > >
> > > - Mike Xue (Apache id: mikexue, Apache EventMesh (incubaiting) PPMC)
> > >
> > > - Charles Zhang (Apache ID：dockerzhang，Apache InLong (incubating) PPMC)
> > >
> > > - Lin Lin（Apache ID: linlin, Apache Pulsar PMC）
> > >
> > > - Jerry Shao（Apache ID: jshao，ASF member，IPMC member，Apache Spark PMC）
> > >
> > > - Sammi Chen (Apache ID: sammichen, Apache Hadoop PMC

Re: [ALC] Request to establish ALC in Guangdong-Hong Kong-Macao Greater Bay Area(GBA) (or Shenzhen, as a starter, if GBA is not applicable)

[Willem Jiang]

It is great to see there are more and more people who are interested
in spreading awareness on Apache in local communities.
+1 for establishing ALC Shenzhen, I'd be happy to be the mentor by
sharing some experience of running ALC.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 6:33 PM Eason Chen  wrote:
>
> Hi, ComDev PMC
>
> In order to provide software for the public good through the Apache Way in
> the Greater Bay Area(GBA), spread awareness on Apache in local communities,
> host various events for local open source enthusiasts that include
> students, developers, and the business community, share information about
> ASF, The Apache Way, and various Apache  projects, bring together project
> users and developers. I am very happy to apply to establish an ALC
> Chapter(ACL GBA).
>
>
> ACL GBA Mentors：
>
> - Willem Jiang （Apache ID: ningjiang, ASF member，IPMC member，Apache Local
> Community Chapter Beijing Leader, PMC of Apache Apisix, Apache Camel,
> Apache CXF, ,Apache RocketMQ, Apache ServiceMix, Apache ServiceComb, Apache
> SkyWalking，Apache Shardingsphere，Apache Iotdb )
>
> - Ted Liu (Apache id: tedliu, ASF member, Incubator PMC member, Fundraising
> Committee member, Sponsor Ambassador)
>
> - VonGosing (Apache id:vongosling, ASF member, IPMC member)
>
>
> ACL GBA Members:
>
> - Eason Chen (Apache id: chenguangsheng, Apache EventMesh(incubating) PPMC)
>
> - Ming Wen（Apache ID：wenming，ASF member, Apache Incubator PMC，Apache APISIX
> PMC Chair）
>
> - Heng Du（Apache ID：duhengforever Apache RocketMQ PMC）
>
> - Liang Chen (Apache id: chenliang613, ASF member, Apache Incubator PMC,
> Apache CarbonData PMC Chair)
>
> - Zhenxu Ke (Apache ID: kezhenxu94, Apache Incubator PMC, Apache SkyWalking
> PMC)
>
> - Guocheng Zhang (Apache ID：gosonzhang，Apache InLong (incubating) PPMC)
>
> - XiaoYu (Apache ID: xiaoyu Apache ShenYu (incubator) PPMC)
>
> - Mike Xue (Apache id: mikexue, Apache EventMesh (incubaiting) PPMC)
>
> - Charles Zhang (Apache ID：dockerzhang，Apache InLong (incubating) PPMC)
>
> - Lin Lin（Apache ID: linlin, Apache Pulsar PMC）
>
> - Jerry Shao（Apache ID: jshao，ASF member，IPMC member，Apache Spark PMC）
>
> - Sammi Chen (Apache ID: sammichen, Apache Hadoop PMC, Apache Ozone PMC
> Chair)
>
> - Zili Chen(Apache ID: tison, Apache Flink Committer, Apache Curator PMC,
> Apache Incubator Committer, Apache InLong (incubating) PPMC)
>
> - Shuai Di(Apache ID: shuaidi, Apache Linkis(incubating) PPMC)
>
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Eason Chen

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Do we have any ideas, initiatives or tools to help non English speakers contribute to ASF projects?

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Sharan,

Thanks for bring this top up. It's a common case that we are facing
for the Apache projects from China.
In the yesterday's ALC Beijing Podcast[1] recording, we have the
similar disussion when talking about build up the community in ASF.
The solution could be leveraging the free translation services[2][3]
to compose the questions or check the answers, and we are also try to
build the local community by encouraging voluteers to translate the
policy documentations[4].

Using English in the Open Source world could help us get touch with
more audices, we are try our best to encourage the contributor to use
English when they are writing emails, have public discussion in github
issues.

When we hold the local meetup we prefer to use Chinese, but when we
talk about the issue and PRs we perfer to use English.
In ApacheCon Asia 2021[5]，we got 50% Chinese sessions and 50% English
sessions and we have the Chinese version of website to open up the
local market,  I think this is banlance we choose now.

[1]https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/37853515/
[2]https://www.deepl.com/
[3]https://translate.google.com
[4]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation
[5]https://www.apachecon.com/acasia2021/

Willem Jiang

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On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 1:13 AM Sharan Foga  wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Recently I heard about an incident where a potential contributor wanted to 
> contribute something to an ASF project but had found it difficult to interact 
> because of the language barrier. They had very limited English skills.
>
> I'd like to start a discussion to get some ideas around what we could do in 
> general to encourage or help people who may find it hard to become involved 
> at the ASF because of language.
>
> I seem to remember that the latest ASF D Survey had some findings around 
> language confidence and that it had sometimes acted as a barrier for new 
> contributors. Do we have any plans, initiatives or existing tools that could 
> help with this?. It would be great to get some feedback from anyone that has 
> experienced this language barrier and discuss what could be done to improve 
> the situation and help others.
>
> Does anyone have any comments, suggestions or ideas? I'd like to hear them. 
> Please join the conversation and let's see what can be done.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
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Re: What should I do if the program I participated in was infringed?

[Willem Jiang]

I just found the link[1] which mentions the github project.
I'm not sure if it was added after you complained about it.
But I think it is a good sign though.

[1] https://5t5.top/about.php

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On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:57 PM Gary Chan  wrote:
>
> What should I do if the program I participated in was infringed?
> https://5t5.top/
> The above website has modified the copyright information of the open source 
> program without authorization, and the program is open sourced under the 
> Apache License 2.0 license.
> GitHub address：https://github.com/soxft/UrlShorting/blob/master/LICENSE
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id

[Willem Jiang]

+1 to make it optional.

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On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:32 PM Bertrand Delacretaz
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 5:47 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
> > ...Since recent projects trend to use GitHub and GitHub names instead of 
> > real
> > names. It can make it hard to match ICLAs to real people so I think it
> > makes sense to have it on the ICLA form. Best to probably make it optional
> > as not everyone have a GitHub account...
>
> I agree that an optional GitHub username field might be useful but IMO
> making it optional is a MUST.
>
> Requiring someone to have a GitHub account before they can get an
> Apache ID would be very wrong.
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: Update to ICLA to include github id

[Willem Jiang]

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 12:10 PM Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:21 PM Craig Russell  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > I understand that GitHub now recommends (not enforced) that people use a 
> > single
> > GitHub id for all of their interactions on the service, and to specifically 
> > delete all
> > accounts except for the one account. They can then merge the deleted 
> > accounts
> > to their one account.
>
> Where is this coming from? Do you have a URL? I'm simply asking because it 
> goes
> directly against most employer's recommendations that I know of.
>
> > [So this is different from Google mail accounts, which Google encourages 
> > folks to have multiple accounts for different purposes.]
> >
> > If people have multiple GitHub accounts, the one on the ICLA would be the 
> > one that they plan to have associated with their Apache id in future.
> >
> > Apache will only allow an Apache id to be associated with one GitHub id so 
> > I think we are ok there. Happy to have operations verify this.
>
> There's a LOT of things to unpack here, but I'm still not sure what
> problem are we trying to solve.

I think it is quite useful for the new podling project.
As the contributor or the initial committer doesn't have Apache id at
that time,  using the github id could help us track the contribution
in the first place.

>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: ASF and Healthcare initiative

[Willem Jiang]

My big +1.
I think it is a great idea that we can bring the efforts from
different Apache projects together to tackle a certain domain specific
problem.

Willem Jiang

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On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 3:41 PM Javi Roman  wrote:
>
> Sebb, that's a good idea, the wiki space could be a beginning.
>
> I'm going to request (INFRA) a Wiki space for this initiative:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HEALTH/Home
>
> and a mailing list for discussing:
> hea...@apache.org
>
> Please let me know if I have your support to request these resources from
> INFRA (linking the JIRA tickets to this conversation).
>
> --
> Javi Roman
>
> Twitter: @javiromanrh
> GitHub: github.com/javiroman
> Linkedin: es.linkedin.com/in/javiroman
> Big Data Blog: dataintensive.info
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 11:44 AM sebb  wrote:
>
> > How about using the Wiki for collecting the information?
> >
> > Easier to set up and easy to maintain.
> >
> > If the content eventually outgrows the wiki it could be moved later
> > (with redirects added).
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 at 06:22, Javi Roman  wrote:
> > >
> > > Probably cTakes PMC could be interesting in requesting the resources to
> > > INFRA:
> > >
> > > 1. health.apache.org
> > > 2. hea...@apache.org
> > >
> > > So this PMC may be the clear owner (I would like to do it by myself, but
> > > unfortunately I'm a PPMC of Incubator retired project).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Javi Roman
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:42 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacre...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:24 PM Rich Bowen  wrote:
> > > > > ...I would encourage you to
> > > > > talk with Infra, next, regarding the hostname, email address, and a
> > VM
> > > > > to run a site on. I expect that if you have a few PMC members backing
> > > > > it, and don't expect Infra to provide you any services...
> > > >
> > > > From an oversight point of view I think it's good for an existing PMC
> > > > to "own" a new website that might be created at health.apache.org. It
> > > > can be any of the interested PMCs and to me the goal is just to make
> > > > sure that website has a clear owner at the Foundation level.
> > > >
> > > > So the simplest is probably for one of those PMCs to request creation
> > > > of the new website, with the understanding that they will welcome
> > > > contributions from other PMCs.
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
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Re: Welcome our new ComDev PMC Chair

[Willem Jiang]

Congratulations Swapnil！

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On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:55 PM Sharan Foga  wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> I'd like to announce that we have a new PMC Chair for ComDev - Swapnil Mane.
>
> Swapnil is amazingly dedicated and has done some great work for ComDev over 
> the last few years including initiating the Apache Local Community initiative.
>
> Please join me in congratulating Swapnil on his new role!
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
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Re: Welcome all TLPs and incubating projects to join Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan

[Willem Jiang]

There is a community sign up application here[1]. It can be applied
per Apache project.
Please fill the Template for Community Application[2] and send it to
sum...@iscas.ac.cn. If you want to join.

Last year,  there were 6 Apache projects participating in this summer
project, and about 30+ students finished their tasks, three students
got the committer right.

[1] https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/help/en/community/
[2] 
https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/help/en/assets/template-for-community-application.txt

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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:13 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi ComDev
>
> I would like to share an international annual program, Summer 2021 of Open
> Source Promotion Plan, which encourages university students to complete
> open-source coding/design/document tasks in the summer.
>
> https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/
> (Right top has an `ENG` button to switch to the English version of the page
> doesn't switch automatically)
>
> This program is very similar to GSoC, and also provides stipends as awards
> to mentors and task-completed students.
> This program started in 2020, back then, only projects having
> Chinese-native mentors could apply, but now, this year, we make that open
> to the global students and projects.
>
> English community guide is here, https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/help/en/
>
> All the projects, including TLP and incubating, could apply the project
> directly. Recommend you have an open discussion on the dev mail list(from
> ASF's perspective to get a consensus).
>
> The deadline for the community/project application is May 20, 2021.
> Sorry, I am sharing this a little late. I just know this plan is open to
> all projects now, especially for the projects in the ASF umbrella.
> There are 2 weeks to go. But luckily, the only requirement is a mail from
> one member of project PMC with a link to the consensus/vote.
>
> If you want to apply and face any issues, please let me know. I am glad to
> help.
> Welcome to share this program in the projects' mail list.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108

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Re: Offer of Mentoring and Coaching to All Apache Communities

[Willem Jiang]

I have the same interesting topics as Justin said, it could be great
if we can set up a reguraler Special Interest Group for it.
In this way we can get more people to join the discussion :)

Willem Jiang

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On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 10:32 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi Veronica,
>
> Welcome! I’m particular interested the topics below, did you have any next 
> steps in mind or how I or others can help you? I’ve got a background in 
> presenting, mentoring and training and know how the ASF works.
>
> > · How to structure and deliver effective  presentations
> > · Mentor the mentors (techniques to be effective)
> > · Coaching
>
> I also interested in D but I think we have others who have that covered.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: One year anniversary of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Welcome to join ALC Beijing.
We have a biweekly meeting here[1].
Please feel free to say Hi here!

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Team+meeting

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 1:15 PM Xin Wang  wrote:
>
> Congrats! Amazing work!
> And how can I join it? Btw. I'm Apache Storm committer  member,
> RocketMQ committer, and IoTDB committer. Work at Hangzhou Alibaba.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Xin
>
> Aditya Sharma  于2021年3月4日周四 下午12:54写道：
>
> > Wow! Kudos to you all!
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Aditya Sharma
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:46 PM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> >
> > > Congrats! Good job!
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:08 AM Roman Shaposhnik 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is really amazing! Huge kudos to all who made it happen -- I wish
> > we
> > > > had more ALCs like that!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Roman.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:09 PM Willem Jiang 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is Willem Jiang, the chapter leader of Apache Local Community
> > > > > Beijing[1], and I am beyond thrilled to share with you the joy and
> > > > > excitement of ALC Beijing’s one year anniversary.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ALC Beijing was officially founded on February 27th, 2020, with a
> > > > > mission of promoting Apache way and Open Source culture in China. ALC
> > > > > Beijing is committed to bringing local open source enthusiasts
> > > > > together by hosting events and publishing articles . By sharing open
> > > > > source development experience, ALC Beijing encourages more people
> > > > > (especially the university students) to participate in ASF projects.
> > > > > ALC Beijing also plays a role of facilitating the mutual cooperations
> > > > > of ASF projects. ALC Beijing aims to advocate ASF projects by working
> > > > > closely with the local developer teams to host meetups, and sharing
> > > > > the Open Source governance experience of ASF by translating the
> > policy
> > > > > documentations.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Over a year, ALC Beijing has reached a milestone in community culture
> > > > > building. Despite the fact that due to the pandemic we were not able
> > > > > to host the events in half of last year, we still managed to host 2
> > > > > ALC meetups and participated in 2 co-events[2]. We have met hundreds
> > > > > of Open Source enthusiasts in Beijing through these events. We also
> > > > > started a local social media public account (ALC Beijing official
> > > > > WeChat public account) to publish 60 articles which focus on the
> > > > > interpretation of Apache Way, the latest updates of ASF projects, and
> > > > > other related information about local projects. Now The account has
> > > > > achieved 1,600 subscribers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ALC Beijing also has published 9 original podcast episodes[3][4] on
> > > > > its own channel, and has achieved over 4,600 plays. The podcast
> > > > > included the sharing of experience from those who just graduated from
> > > > > Apache Incubator, and the success stories which could encourage more
> > > > > university students to participate in open source projects.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ALC Beijing further accelerated the progress of culture-building by
> > > > > translating Apache 20 Anniversary documentary subtitles, Apache
> > > > > Incubator Cookbook and Apache License[5] so that the enthusiasts in
> > > > > China could enjoy the work with fewer language barriers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With all the help from Apache and members, ALC Beijing is determined
> > > > > to serve everyone who is interested in open source. We look forward
> > to
> > > > > sharing with you about more accomplishments of ALC Beijing in the
> > near
> > > > > future.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
> > > > > [2]
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Events
> > > > > [3]]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alc-beijing-podcast/id1523278501?uo=4=1001lsYj
> > > > > [4]https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/37853515/
> > > > > [5]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: One year anniversary of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Craig,

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:15 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> Congratulations to everyone involved in the Beijing ALC on this anniversary.
>

Yeah, it's definitely a team effort.
Now we are preparing  ApacheCon Asia 2021 which needs more help from
ASF and the local communities.

> I'm looking forward to meeting you all once the global disaster is under 
> control.

I think you will meet a lot of old friends and new friends in the near future.

>
> Best,
> Craig
>

Cheers,

Willem Jiang

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Re: One year anniversary of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks for the suggestion. I just sent the mail ot announce@a.o.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 8:13 AM Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>
> Congratulations on your anniversary. You may also wish to send this update to 
> announce@a.o to reach a broader audience interested in Apache activities.
>
> Best,
> Sally
>
> - - -
> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021, at 19:09, Willem Jiang wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > This is Willem Jiang, the chapter leader of Apache Local Community
> > Beijing[1], and I am beyond thrilled to share with you the joy and
> > excitement of ALC Beijing’s one year anniversary.
> >
> >
> > ALC Beijing was officially founded on February 27th, 2020, with a
> > mission of promoting Apache way and Open Source culture in China. ALC
> > Beijing is committed to bringing local open source enthusiasts
> > together by hosting events and publishing articles . By sharing open
> > source development experience, ALC Beijing encourages more people
> > (especially the university students) to participate in ASF projects.
> > ALC Beijing also plays a role of facilitating the mutual cooperations
> > of ASF projects. ALC Beijing aims to advocate ASF projects by working
> > closely with the local developer teams to host meetups, and sharing
> > the Open Source governance experience of ASF by translating the policy
> > documentations.
> >
> >
> > Over a year, ALC Beijing has reached a milestone in community culture
> > building. Despite the fact that due to the pandemic we were not able
> > to host the events in half of last year, we still managed to host 2
> > ALC meetups and participated in 2 co-events[2]. We have met hundreds
> > of Open Source enthusiasts in Beijing through these events. We also
> > started a local social media public account (ALC Beijing official
> > WeChat public account) to publish 60 articles which focus on the
> > interpretation of Apache Way, the latest updates of ASF projects, and
> > other related information about local projects. Now The account has
> > achieved 1,600 subscribers.
> >
> >
> > ALC Beijing also has published 9 original podcast episodes[3][4] on
> > its own channel, and has achieved over 4,600 plays. The podcast
> > included the sharing of experience from those who just graduated from
> > Apache Incubator, and the success stories which could encourage more
> > university students to participate in open source projects.
> >
> >
> > ALC Beijing further accelerated the progress of culture-building by
> > translating Apache 20 Anniversary documentary subtitles, Apache
> > Incubator Cookbook and Apache License[5] so that the enthusiasts in
> > China could enjoy the work with fewer language barriers.
> >
> >
> > With all the help from Apache and members, ALC Beijing is determined
> > to serve everyone who is interested in open source. We look forward to
> > sharing with you about more accomplishments of ALC Beijing in the near
> > future.
> >
> > [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
> > [2]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Events
> > [3]]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alc-beijing-podcast/id1523278501?uo=4=1001lsYj
> > [4]https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/37853515/
> > [5]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Willem
> >
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >

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One year anniversary of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi


This is Willem Jiang, the chapter leader of Apache Local Community
Beijing[1], and I am beyond thrilled to share with you the joy and
excitement of ALC Beijing’s one year anniversary.


ALC Beijing was officially founded on February 27th, 2020, with a
mission of promoting Apache way and Open Source culture in China. ALC
Beijing is committed to bringing local open source enthusiasts
together by hosting events and publishing articles . By sharing open
source development experience, ALC Beijing encourages more people
(especially the university students) to participate in ASF projects.
ALC Beijing also plays a role of facilitating the mutual cooperations
of ASF projects. ALC Beijing aims to advocate ASF projects by working
closely with the local developer teams to host meetups, and sharing
the Open Source governance experience of ASF by translating the policy
documentations.


Over a year, ALC Beijing has reached a milestone in community culture
building. Despite the fact that due to the pandemic we were not able
to host the events in half of last year, we still managed to host 2
ALC meetups and participated in 2 co-events[2]. We have met hundreds
of Open Source enthusiasts in Beijing through these events. We also
started a local social media public account (ALC Beijing official
WeChat public account) to publish 60 articles which focus on the
interpretation of Apache Way, the latest updates of ASF projects, and
other related information about local projects. Now The account has
achieved 1,600 subscribers.


ALC Beijing also has published 9 original podcast episodes[3][4] on
its own channel, and has achieved over 4,600 plays. The podcast
included the sharing of experience from those who just graduated from
Apache Incubator, and the success stories which could encourage more
university students to participate in open source projects.


ALC Beijing further accelerated the progress of culture-building by
translating Apache 20 Anniversary documentary subtitles, Apache
Incubator Cookbook and Apache License[5] so that the enthusiasts in
China could enjoy the work with fewer language barriers.


With all the help from Apache and members, ALC Beijing is determined
to serve everyone who is interested in open source. We look forward to
sharing with you about more accomplishments of ALC Beijing in the near
future.

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
[2]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Events
[3]]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alc-beijing-podcast/id1523278501?uo=4=1001lsYj
[4]https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/37853515/
[5]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation


Best regards,

Willem


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Re: Moderators needed for community.apache.org lists

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Craig,

I volunteer to moderate these lists.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:23 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> It appears that there are not enough moderators for the mentors@ list.
>
> If you can volunteer to moderate this list (and the students@ list seems to 
> have the same moderators) please speak up on this list.
>
> I'll volunteer to moderate both lists at this time.
>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
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Re: Apache Roadshow - China recap

[Willem Jiang]

It's great online and offline event. Thanks Ted , volunteers from
Kaiyuanshe and the members of ALC Beijing.

For the ApacheCon Asia,  We (ALC Beijing) are keen to make it happen in
China next year.


Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem


On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 1:34 PM Liu Ted  wrote:

> Dear Rich, Sally and Craig,
>
> Thank you for your support the Apache Roadshow - China (co-located with
> COSCon'20). Here comes the event summary.
>
> There were one million+ online viewers and hundreds of offline audiences
> across 5 cities in China.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Craig, Thank you for your sharing which has inspired millions.
>
>
> Special thanks to ALC Beijing members, Willem Jiang, Sheng Wu, Lidong Dai,
> Juan Pan, Jiansheng Li, Liang Zhang, Xiangdong Huang, and many more
> volunteers and Aapche fans organized by ALC Beijing.
>
>
>
> https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA5MTA2NDA5MQ===2655320841=2=55b2433ef9fa467485b27349820ea110=8bb2497dbcc5c06bbca2659c32e919757a417a210e090ad413562dcb5fee6fc89681f0e46aab=1=1=1214rQ6p3okxEjnikwYG2XPC_sharetime=1607996825876_shareid=24f6d3ce094d2205129bd421cf0dbe7f=Aa66Gp47XiDYP6CQeR7Gl6E%3D_ticket=Y3hi6mVayMhZU%2BaUm0iflQ3Ye8udlccmL6tmb9dtzech87d%2BSqEQOGA9tAqbC%2BFS_header=0#rd
>
>
> Hi Sally, It'd be great if this could be shared on ASF media channels.
>
>
> Hi Rich, We, at ALC Beijing, are thinking of conducting the ApacheCon Asia
> next year in China with multiple locations as we did in 5 cities in China
> this year.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ted Liu
> On behalf of the 2020 Apache Roadshow - China & COSCon'20 Steering
> Committee
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Re: Apache in Month of November 2020 (News Video)

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Swapnil，

Your vlog is very inspiring.
Nice done :)


Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:10 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Hope you are doing well.
> Recently I have experimented with a video on Apache News Roundup.
> Here is what happened this month in Apache.
>
> https://youtu.be/daud_G6YyV0
>
> I am also working on more videos and content for spreading Apache and
> open source awareness, I will keep you posted on this.
> More content can be found at the YouTube channel 'Open Source Wave'
> https://s.apache.org/OpenSourceWave
>
>
> Thanks & regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome to our new committers

[Willem Jiang]

It's really great news to me :)
Thanks  all and congrats to all the other committers.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 2:19 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> The ComDev PMC has invited Aditya, Priya, Tomasz, and Willem
> to become committers and we are glad to announce that
> they have accepted the nomination.
>
> Please join me in welcoming our new committers.
>
> # Aditya Sharma
> Aditya is the ALC Indore chapter lead and part of the core team since
> the beginning.
> He had also delivered various talks for spreading the awareness of
> Apache in various events.
> His recent talk (in Hindi language) in ApaceCon on the topic Apache Incubator,
> & How incubator communities are built? is live at https://youtu.be/Y131zsjsU_Y
>
> # Priya Sharma
> Priya is the core member of ALC Indore from its inception and you
> might have seen her various mail regarding the events. She is very
> active in planning and executing events for ALC.
> She also delivered numerous talk on the Open Source and the Apache Way
> in ALC events also active on our ComDev list to help people.
> Her recent talk on Apache Local Community (in Hindi language)
> in ApacheCon can be found at https://youtu.be/V-oI5_C1oys
>
> # Tomasz Urbaszek
> Tomasz is the ALC Warsaw chapter lead and very actively working for
> spreading awareness through ALC Warsaw events. Along with this,
> he also participated in various threads of ALC to provide his inputs.
> You should check out his recent talk in ApacheCon on
> 'Growing with the Open-Source Community' at https://youtu.be/YGd8XyAC41A
>
> # Willem Ning Jiang
> Willem is also an ASF member and in PMC of various Apache Projects.
> He is the chapter lead of ALC Beijing and, the ALC Beijing team is
> doing inspiring
> & amazing work in spreading Apache awareness.
> Willem has a great understanding of Apache Way and the community.
>
> Many congratulations all, and thank you so much for your contributions!
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> On behalf of the ComDev PMC
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Re: [ALC]ALC Beijing Meetup August 16

[Willem Jiang]

As a panel discussion guest, Jincheng, I hope your network is going well :)

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:47 PM jincheng sun  wrote:
>
> Thanks for share this great news here. JianSheng Li !
>
> I believe those who joining the meeting will enjoy it :)
>
> Best,
> Jincheng
>
>
> Juan Pan  于2020年8月12日周三 下午1:01写道：
>
> > Hi Jiansheng,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your good news!
> > I am glad to see our first ALC Beijing meet-up is coming soon.
> > Also, thanks for the help from all the members of ALC Beijing and
> > KAIYUANSHE.
> > With their help, we could have a chance to give many valuable talkings and
> > discussions on our first meet-up.
> >
> >
> > Hope our audiences and attendees can enjoy it.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Trista
> >
> >
> >  Juan Pan (Trista)
> >
> > Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
> > E-mail: panj...@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 08/12/2020 11:54，适兕 wrote：
> > Hi, Craig,
> >
> > Thanks for your email.
> >
> > Yes , you are right. This meetup will be speaking in Chinese only and the
> > time zone is Beijing time.
> >
> > Best Regards!
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 3:05 AM Craig Russell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just for my understanding:
> >
> > is the event 14:00 ~ 17:30 in Beijing time?
> > is the event in Chinese?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Craig
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:53 PM, 适兕  wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > The ALC [1] Beijing Chapter [2] will host a meetup (support online
> > participation)  this weekend.
> >
> > This time we choose the topic : “How to remove the roadblocks on the open
> > source journey”
> >
> > We invited Apache Flink and Apache DolphinScheduler(Incubating) PPMC to
> > share their stories. and invited 5 guests to discuss this topic ,They are
> > all very experienced in open source.
> >
> > more information ( time,location and online url etc.) please go to [3],
> > or
> > reply to this email.
> >
> > Welcome to join us !
> >
> > [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
> > [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
> > [3]
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/editpage.action?pageId=158868125
> > --
> > Welcome to http://opensourceway.community! The open source way:
> > Dedicated
> > to the exploration of ideas, knowledge and values related to open source.
> >
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> > c...@apache.org
> >
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Re: [ALC]ALC Beijing Meetup August 16

[Willem Jiang]

FYI,  I just updated the online broadcast link on the wiki page.
We will also post the video online after the meetup.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 3:05 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just for my understanding:
>
> is the event 14:00 ~ 17:30 in Beijing time?
> is the event in Chinese?
>
> Thanks,
> Craig
>
> > On Aug 10, 2020, at 8:53 PM, 适兕  wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > The ALC [1] Beijing Chapter [2] will host a meetup (support online
> > participation)  this weekend.
> >
> > This time we choose the topic : “How to remove the roadblocks on the open
> > source journey”
> >
> > We invited Apache Flink and Apache DolphinScheduler(Incubating) PPMC to
> > share their stories. and invited 5 guests to discuss this topic ,They are
> > all very experienced in open source.
> >
> > more information ( time,location and online url etc.) please go to [3], or
> > reply to this email.
> >
> > Welcome to join us !
> >
> > [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
> > [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
> > [3]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/editpage.action?pageId=158868125
> > --
> > Welcome to http://opensourceway.community! The open source way:  Dedicated
> > to the exploration of ideas, knowledge and values related to open source.
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
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Re: Apache Software Foundation, Trillions and Trillions Served with Chinese subtitle LIVE!

[Willem Jiang]

It's our first time to do translation work[1] with the help of the
community, and we got a lot of positive feedback.
Now we are planning to translate the trails[2].  It could be a good
opportunity for newbies from China to get to know better about ASF.

BTW， I just found a new documentary "Apache Innovation"[3] is
released, we could do the same thing here.

[1]https://github.com/alc-beijing/alc-site/issues/62
[2]https://github.com/alc-beijing/translation/issues/3
[3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkvqJaX4S50

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:40 AM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Sally, Michael, Dominik, DevCom, and ALC Beijing
>
> First of all, thank you to make the video `Apache Software Foundation,
> Trillions and Trillions Served`, provide helps to me.
> I am here glad to share, with the supports from the SkyWalking community,
> ALC Beijing community, and Kaiyuanshe, we have this video online hosted on
> bilibili which is China's local friendly platform. And we have provided
> Chinese subtitles on that.
>
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Uz411i7MH
>
> In this short time, we already have 200+ watches, and we expect more.
> Thank you all to make this happens.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108

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Re: ApacheCon @Home CFP Submissions in Different Languages

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks Sheng for taking care of it.
I think there are a lot of topics that can be put into the track.


Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 8:53 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Juan
>
> We will have a track for Mandarin at least, I have requested to add an
> Apache@China track.
> If Rich can't make it online(due to the CFP closed shortly),
>  I will collect the topics to you all(ALC Beijing and Projects I have known
> have active contributors from China) to prepare the track.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Juan Pan  于2020年7月12日周日 下午8:23写道：
>
> > Hi Sharan,
> >
> >
> > It looks a good news. :-)
> > Besides, two questions confused me,
> > 1. If one wants to post a topic talking in other languages,  any
> > categories on CFP is ok? Or some specific ones?
> > 2. If there is no sufficient talkings in one language for that
> > timezone,what will happen?
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to your help, and if I missed something, please tell me.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Trista
> >
> >
> >  Juan Pan (Trista)
> >
> > Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
> > E-mail: panj...@apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/11/2020 15:43，Sharan Foga wrote：
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > We are looking for talks in other languages than English for ApacheCon
> > @Home. As the conference will be online it means that we can run tracks for
> > specific time zones. Initial thoughts are something that could be US
> > friendly, EU friendly and China friendly.
> >
> > This means that as well as English we could run specific community content
> > in other languages for the timezone (eg Spanish, French for US and EU time
> > zone). Apache communities are diverse and global so if you are interested
> > in (or more comfortable) submitting a talk in languages other than English
> > then please do.
> >
> > There is currently a proposal to run a Mandarin track initially focussed
> > on various Apache projects but I think it might be good to get some
> > community related talks too. So if you would like to do an Apache Way or
> > community related talk in Mandarin then please submit it to CFP.
> >
> > Also if any of our ALCs are interested in putting together a track in
> > their audience language then please let me know as this could be another
> > potential way us to have additional content.
> >
> > Through ApacheCon @Home we have a great opportunity to reach out to a
> > wider audience so let's make use of all the ways we can.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
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Re: Trillions and Trillions Served, is hosted on the China Local Video Platform

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks Sally.
The English subtitle could save us lots of time when doing the translation.

Best Regards,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Willem.
>
> We don't have a transcript at present. I can arrange for that to happen, but 
> it will take a few days.
>
> I'll let you know when it's ready.
>
> Best,
> Sally
>
> - - -
> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, at 23:00, Willem Jiang wrote:
> > Thanks Sheng for the great efforts.
> > It could be great if we have the English subtitle first for the
> > Chinese translation.
> > @Sally Khudairi  Could you help us with that ?
> >
> > BTW, I already created an issue[1] in ALC-Beijing to call for help :)
> > Please add your comment on the issue if you are interested to offer your 
> > help.
> >
> > [1]https://github.com/alc-beijing/alc-site/issues/62
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:40 AM Sally Khudairi  wrote:
> > >
> > > Beautiful --thanks for your great efforts, Sheng!
> > >
> > > Do enjoy :-)
> > >
> > > - - -
> > > Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> > > Vice President Sponsor Relations
> > > The Apache Software Foundation
> > >
> > > Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, at 22:32, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > > > Hi ALC Beijing, Sally, Michael, Dominik and All
> > > >
> > > > I am glad to share, the video, Trillions and Trillions Served[1], has 
> > > > been online at the China local platform[2], hosted by Apache SkyWalking 
> > > > account,
> > > >
> > > > https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Uz411i7MH
> > > >
> > > > Also, in order to get more people to watch it, I have reached 
> > > > Jiansheng(ALC Beijing) and Ted Liu(ASF Member) to see what we could do 
> > > > to provide Chinese subtitles for this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all for helping me.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUt2nb0mgwg=youtu.be
> > > > [2] Notice, as Youtube is not accessible inside China, we organized 
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >

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Re: Trillions and Trillions Served, is hosted on the China Local Video Platform

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks Sheng for the great efforts.
It could be great if we have the English subtitle first for the
Chinese translation.
@Sally Khudairi  Could you help us with that ?

BTW, I already created an issue[1] in ALC-Beijing to call for help :)
Please add your comment on the issue if you are interested to offer your help.

[1]https://github.com/alc-beijing/alc-site/issues/62


Willem Jiang

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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:40 AM Sally Khudairi  wrote:
>
> Beautiful --thanks for your great efforts, Sheng!
>
> Do enjoy :-)
>
> - - -
> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, at 22:32, Sheng Wu wrote:
> > Hi ALC Beijing, Sally, Michael, Dominik and All
> >
> > I am glad to share, the video, Trillions and Trillions Served[1], has been 
> > online at the China local platform[2], hosted by Apache SkyWalking account,
> >
> > https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Uz411i7MH
> >
> > Also, in order to get more people to watch it, I have reached Jiansheng(ALC 
> > Beijing) and Ted Liu(ASF Member) to see what we could do to provide Chinese 
> > subtitles for this.
> >
> > Thanks all for helping me.
> >
> > [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUt2nb0mgwg=youtu.be
> > [2] Notice, as Youtube is not accessible inside China, we organized this.
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108

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Re: [ALC] Branding and logo

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Kenneth

Thank you so much for providing so many versions of ALC logos here.
It's greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:53 AM Kenneth Paskett  wrote:

> The zipped file was too large to attach so I'm providing a link to it here.
>
> If there is a better place for me to save these so that the community at
> large has access to them, please let me know.
>
> ~Kenneth
>
>  ALC Logos.zip
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nIC_jkY1cEdkYxVzTdgQ-4jEc3I6pvFn/view?usp=drive_web>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:44 PM Kenneth Paskett  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone -
>>
>> Please find attached the Logos I have prepared in both PNG and SVG
>> formats. I've also included the SketchApp file I used to create these. I
>> created versions for Indore, Beijing, and Warsaw per Swapnil's guidance, as
>> well as versions without a chapter name. There is a horizontal version, as
>> well as a badge-like version that can more easily be used for avatars. You
>> should be able to use the SVG versions to easily update/change chapter
>> names, as I left that text to be editable.
>>
>> Thank you for your patience as I worked to finalize these.
>> [image: ALC.png]
>> [image: ALC - Avatar.png]
>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> ~Kenneth
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:04 PM Tomasz Urbaszek 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kenneth,
>>>
>>> I can't wait to see the ALC logo :) Probably a square avatar format
>>> and a cover/background photo (probably 16:9, meetup.com suggest 600 x
>>> 338px) would be most useful.
>>>
>>> If we decide to have ALC city name in any branding materials then I am
>>> happy to make an "ALC Brand" generator. In that way, each ALC chapter
>>> can generate any necessary materials without bothering anyone with
>>> access to specialized software. Here's an example for Airflow Meetups:
>>> https://github.com/turbaszek/airflow-meetups It uses a python script
>>> to add proper text on predefined graphics so it's pretty easy to use.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tomek
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:20 PM Kenneth Paskett  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Tomasz -
>>> >
>>> > I have several hours allotted this weekend to work on Apache projects,
>>> and the ALC Logo is one of them. I will be delivering you the finalized
>>> logos by the end of tomorrow.
>>> >
>>> > Are there particular formats/sizes that will be most helpful to the
>>> team?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > ~Kenneth
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 3:02 AM Tomasz Urbaszek 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm just curious what is the progress on the ALC logo? Is there
>>> >> anything we can do to help?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Tomek
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:39 PM Kenneth Paskett 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello again -
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I just want to send a final reminder that tomorrow is the last day
>>> to provide feedback on the draft logos for the Apache Local Communities.
>>> After that I will be taking the feedback and refining the logo. Thank you
>>> to all of you who have already filled out the survey.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you!
>>> >> > ~Kenneth
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 5:15 PM Kenneth Paskett 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hello everyone -
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I hope you are all well and safe.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I have put together a survey to provide you an opportunity to give
>>> feedback on some draft versions of a logo for the Apache Local Community
>>> and chapters. Please provide all your feedback in that form so I can keep
>>> it all gathered in one place. The votes and feedback from that form will be
>>> taken into consideration as I further develop and finalize the logo.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Please submit your feedback by April 10, 2020.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The form can be found at: https://forms.gle/x82XdLXbPkGXf9U29

Re: [ALC Beijing][Podcast] Inivite APISIX community member talking to open source and project.

[Willem Jiang]

Cool, it's good to have a chat with you :)

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:37 PM Juan Pan  wrote:
>
> Look forward to listening to the story of the APISIX community. :-)
>
>
>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>
> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere
> E-mail: panj...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
> On 06/9/2020 15:46，Ming Wen wrote：
> Hi, jiansheng,
> I am Apache APISIX PPMC member, I am interested this topic.
>
> Thanks,
> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
> 适兕  于2020年6月9日周二 下午3:26写道：
>
> Hi:
> APISIX  member, committer , PMC ,
>
> ALC  Beijing [1] podcast is a spread apache way and open source, and we
> have already recorded 3 issues [2]. This weekend we want to record new
> episode. We inviting  project APISIX developer  and advocator to
> participate.
>
> If you are interested this, Please let me know.
>
> Notes:
> 1. because limited resource, only 1~2 member attend this. first come first
> served.
> 2. Mandarin only
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
> [2] https://alc-beijing.github.io/alc-site/
>
> Best regards！
>

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Re: Multilingual Content (forwarded from apachecon planners discussion)

[Willem Jiang]

Maybe we can prepare the slides in English and doing the presentation
in Chinese.
I think most Chinese developer audiences have the reading skill of
English, and we don't need to do lot of translation work on the slides
side.

Willem Jiang

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On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:32 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> I think this may be worth a discussion here. I am totally in favor of being 
> more inclusive by having presentations about Apache in multiple languages.
>
> There have been many presentations to non-English-native-listeners about 
> Apache topics.
>
> I am a small bit concerned that translations of presentations might not fully 
> capture the content of the original. Seeing a presentation in English by an 
> English speaker and seeing the translated presentation in e.g. Chinese by a 
> Chinese speaker is possibly not a good way to verify that the message was 
> completely translated.
>
> Would it be too much to ask for such presentations to include on each slide 
> both the English and Chinese? I understand that there are challenges with 
> this approach but it would perhaps make it easier to verify that the 
> translation is topic-by-topic. It might also make "the same talk in two 
> recordings" easier to implement.
>
> Regards,
> Craig
>
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Julian Feinauer 
> > Subject: Multilangual Content
> > Date: May 29, 2020 at 4:10:04 AM PDT
> > To: "plann...@apachecon.com" 
> > Reply-To: plann...@apachecon.com
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I considered organizing a Track for the IoTDB project. This project is 
> > (like others also) with strong community in China. And we are „bilateral“ 
> > in the project as we try to provide enough information in both languages 
> > that also the not-so-fluent english speaking Chinese Community can follow.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have presentations / videos in other Languages? Or 
> > probably the same talk in two recordings?
> > Are there general objections with the idea? I think this could be really 
> > cool for projects like IoTDB to reach the Chinese Community.
> >
> > Julian
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] - Establishing ALC Budapest Chapter

[Willem Jiang]

Congratulations, it's great to see more and more ALC Chapters are established.

Cheers,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:02 AM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> ComDev PMC is pleased to announce our next Apache Local Community [1]
> ALC Chapter - ALC Budapest [2] and Attila Bukor as ALC Budapest Chapter
> lead.
>
> We have the following members in ALC Budapest:
>
> 1. Dániel Dékány
> -- ASF Member
> -- Chair, Freemarker
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> 2. Gézapeti
> -- Chair, Oozie
>
> 3. Tamás Cservenák
> -- PMC (Maven)
>
> 4. Attila Bukor
> -- PMC (Kudo)
>
> 5. Márton Balassi
> -- PMC (Flink)
> -- Committer (Incubator)
>
> 6. István Fajth
> -- Contributor (Hadoop, Ozone)
>
> Congratulations to the ALC Budapest Chapter and wishing them the best
> luck for their future events.
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
> [2] https://s.apache.org/alc-budapest
>
>
> Best regards,
> The Apache ComDev team,
> community.apache.org
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Re: [ALC] ALC Warsaw Event

[Willem Jiang]

+1.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:31 AM Tomasz Urbaszek  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> As per ALC Event guidelines [1], we would like to ask for PMC approval
> for the upcoming ALC Warsaw Event. The detailed agenda and speakers
> can be found on the confluence page dedicated to this event:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Warsaw+Meetup+%231
>
> The event will be an online meetup due to the current situation and
> will be held on 7th of April.
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc-guidelines
>
> Tomek Urbaszek,
> Chapter Lead, ALC Warsaw
> https://s.apache.org/alc-warsaw
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Re: [VOTE] ALC Website with Git/Hugo framework

[Willem Jiang]

+1.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:31 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello team,
>
> We had a discussion on setting up the Apache Local Community (ALC) [1]
> initiative website at
> https://s.apache.org/4ge6w
>
> Here is the summary for the discussion,
>
> 1. ALC website will be hosted at alc.apache.org
> 2. Each chapter will have subpage like alc.apache.org/beijing
> And a new post can be contributed by ALC Chapter to their spaces.
> 3. The Hugo framework will be used for building the website.
>
> Looking at the thread seems a majority of people are in agreement with
> setting up the site.
> I would like to initiate a formal vote for establishing the ALC
> Website with Git/Hugo.
>
> Please vote:
> [ ] +1 to setup ALC Website with Git/Hugo
> [ ] -1 for not having ALC Website
>
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
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Re: [ALC Beijing][Podcast] invite SkyWalking community member talking all about SkyWalking

[Willem Jiang]

I can give a hand on this podcast to share my experience from mentor
perspective.
Please let me know what I need to do next.

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On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 11:07 AM 适兕  wrote:
>
> Hi:
>   SkyWalking member, committer , PMC ,
>
>  As you know , ALC  Beijing [1] is ready,  we want to do lots of things ,
> podcast is one of them , others like write/promote articles, organize
> local/online event etc.
>
> As (ALC  Beijing  Podcast ) first show，we hope invite SkyWalking project
> as Podcast Episode 1 : Let's talk about SkyWalking. ( 让我们聊聊SkyWalking有趣的事）
> If you are interested this, Please let me know.
>
> notes: because limited resource, only 1~2 member attend this. first come
> first served.
>
> [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vT07pdk9AnDKilCOTaKkQfQEAMR-4gkatOOd8OFsjNY/edit#heading=h.vc1v9p9ru4sq
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Re: Suggestion of WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

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I think we discuss it in today's meeting.
I can do a quick demo show about how to use hugo to host a website.

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:40 PM jincheng sun  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the pretty nice suggestions John!
>
> I think we really need discuss about the structure looks like of the
> WebChat account. And would be great if you interested in give us a draft of
> the basic structure, then we can discuss it further :)
>
> regarding the repo I think it's better to transfer it to apache repository,
> even, we may need a discussion about create a repo for Apache Local
> Community, and ALC Beijing can be the in that repo. Not pretty sure, we
> need further discussion.
>
> Best,
> Jincheng
>
>
>
> zhangli...@apache.org  于2020年3月23日周一 下午7:05写道：
>
> > The GitHub repo is excellent. Can we consider about transfer it to apache
> > repository in future?
> >
> > ------
> >
> > Liang Zhang (John)
> > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >
> >
> > Willem Jiang  于2020年3月23日周一 下午5:38写道：
> >
> > > Hi John，
> > >
> > > Thanks for you suggestions.
> > >
> > > ALC Beijing is happy to share the information about Apache projects by
> > > publish the articles in it public account.
> > > Currently we already have git repo[1] to host the article which need to
> > > publish.
> > > For those articles which were published by other Apache project WeChat
> > > public account, we can repost the article for ALC-Beijing audiences.
> > >
> > > [1]https://github.com/WillemJiang/alc-site
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:06 PM zhangli...@apache.org
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The Public Account of ALC Beijing has already published some articles
> > > > rapidly, that is a great start.
> > > >
> > > > I want talk about how to improve in future.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Maybe we can create category to group articles.
> > > > 2. We may establish a category which introduce all Apache Projects
> > joined
> > > > the ALC Beijing. This is a good way to show the landscape to reader.
> > > > 3. Create a GitHub repo to write the articles before publishing to
> > Public
> > > > Account.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Liang Zhang (John)
> > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
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Re: [ALC] Apache way presentation

[Willem Jiang]

Thanks for the PR, I just merged it.


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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:07 PM jincheng sun  wrote:
>
> Thanks Willem for share this information. I just open PR[1] for the display
> problem of picture in [2][3]
>
> Best,
> Jincheng
>
> [1]https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk/pull/3
> [2]
> https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk/blob/master/src/main/asciidoc/index_en.adoc
> [3]
> https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk/blob/master/src/main/asciidoc/index_cn.adoc
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年3月17日周二 上午8:50写道：
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > I totally agree with you, I will do it after some clean up on the
> > presentation.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:30 AM Justin Mclean 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > You might want to consider donating this to the Apache training project
> > [1], I had intended to but hadn’t found the cycles yet.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > 1. http://training.apache.org
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Re: [ALC Beijing] Proposal: Set up ALC Beijing Podcast (Mandarin）

[Willem Jiang]

+1 to invite more people to share their experiences with ASF projects
through podcast.

BTW,  JianSheng do you have wiki edit right under ALC-Beijing?
I think you can put the proposal into the wiki.

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:59 PM 适兕  wrote:
>
> Hi，apache community members
>
>I was host podcast, Talking about open source related in Mandarin. Have
> some experience, and the effect is also good, it is a good spread channel.
>So I write an document[2] for set up ALC  Beijing Podcast.
>
>   Any input is welcome!
>
> [1].
> http://opensourceway.community/posts/opensource_talking/2020-done-and-plan-index/
> [2].
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vT07pdk9AnDKilCOTaKkQfQEAMR-4gkatOOd8OFsjNY/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: How about we hold a online meeting of ALC Beijing this thursday?

[Willem Jiang]

It's bi-weekly meeting, I will update the meeting page for it.

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 6:30 PM Juan Pan  wrote:
>
> BTW, is it regular meeting at firm time every week, or held when needed?
>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>
> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> E-mail: panj...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
> On 03/23/2020 17:08，Willem Jiang wrote：
> +1， I think we can hold the meeting around 10 PM.
> Any thought？
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:57 PM Jeff Zhang  wrote:
>
> How about make it at 10 pm or 10:30 pm ? because I am afraid more people
> are unavailable on weekend days.
>
>
> zhangli...@apache.org  于2020年3月23日周一 下午4:49写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> How about change the meeting to another time? I want join the meeting but I
> am not free on night of working day.
>
> --
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> Sheng Wu  于2020年2月25日周二 下午1:52写道：
>
> Same for me. Let's keep this on the mail list, even on slack.
> There are too many talks on the WeChat, I have no time to follow.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> 适兕  于2020年2月25日周二 上午11:38写道：
>
> Hi，
> Jeff
>
> I don't think we need create wechat group. It's not a good idea.
>
> wechat group is not friendship for last join. and it's can't archive
> ,btw,
> Google search nothing.  WeChat is not open.
>
> Should we setup a webchat group first ?
>
> Jeff Zhang  于2020年2月25日周二 上午8:55写道：
>
> Works for me if it is 9:30
>
> Xiangdong Huang  于2020年2月24日周一 下午11:54写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> It would be great if we can put off half an hour...
> I have a short 10-minute meeting at 9 o'clock.
>
> Best,
> ---
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
> 黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月24日周一 下午11:23写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> I think we could hold a online meeting through Zoom this Thursday
> (27th Feb) night around 9:00 PM Beijing time.
> It could be great if we introduce each other and talk about the
> meetup
> plan in the coming up month. We will send a mail to the mailing
> list
> to summarize the discussion we have.
>
> Please let me know if the time works for you.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
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>
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>
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Re: [ALC Beijing] Was: Suggestion of WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

FYI, Current I just open a github repo[1] to host the articles for ALC-Beijing.
Please feel free to send a PR if you want to post a original article
to ALC-Beijing.
Once the whole process is running OK, we may consider to move the repo
to github apache group.

[1]https://github.com/WillemJiang/alc-site

Willem Jiang

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:37 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Inline.
>
> zhangli...@apache.org  于2020年3月23日周一 下午5:06写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Public Account of ALC Beijing has already published some articles
> > rapidly, that is a great start.
> >
> > I want talk about how to improve in future.
> >
> > 1. Maybe we can create category to group articles.
> >
>
> Make sense to me.
>
>
> > 2. We may establish a category which introduce all Apache Projects joined
> > the ALC Beijing. This is a good way to show the landscape to reader.
> >
>
> I think you mean about the projects the ALC Beijing members involved?
>
>
> > 3. Create a GitHub repo to write the articles before publishing to Public
> > Account.
> >
>
> I think we have agreed to do that. I am waiting for Willem to create.(I
> used to offer to create one)
> Also, after we have that, we need an article to talk about the recommended
> processes about the articles for outside contributors.
>
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Liang Zhang (John)
> > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >

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Re: Suggestion of WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi John，

Thanks for you suggestions.

ALC Beijing is happy to share the information about Apache projects by
publish the articles in it public account.
Currently we already have git repo[1] to host the article which need to publish.
For those articles which were published by other Apache project WeChat
public account, we can repost the article for ALC-Beijing audiences.

[1]https://github.com/WillemJiang/alc-site

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:06 PM zhangli...@apache.org
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The Public Account of ALC Beijing has already published some articles
> rapidly, that is a great start.
>
> I want talk about how to improve in future.
>
> 1. Maybe we can create category to group articles.
> 2. We may establish a category which introduce all Apache Projects joined
> the ALC Beijing. This is a good way to show the landscape to reader.
> 3. Create a GitHub repo to write the articles before publishing to Public
> Account.
>
> Any idea?
>
>
> --
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo

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Re: How about we hold a online meeting of ALC Beijing this thursday?

[Willem Jiang]

+1， I think we can hold the meeting around 10 PM.
Any thought？

Willem Jiang

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 4:57 PM Jeff Zhang  wrote:
>
> How about make it at 10 pm or 10:30 pm ? because I am afraid more people
> are unavailable on weekend days.
>
>
> zhangli...@apache.org  于2020年3月23日周一 下午4:49写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > How about change the meeting to another time? I want join the meeting but I
> > am not free on night of working day.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Liang Zhang (John)
> > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu  于2020年2月25日周二 下午1:52写道：
> >
> > > Same for me. Let's keep this on the mail list, even on slack.
> > > There are too many talks on the WeChat, I have no time to follow.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > 适兕  于2020年2月25日周二 上午11:38写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi，
> > >>   Jeff
> > >>
> > >>  I don't think we need create wechat group. It's not a good idea.
> > >>
> > >>  wechat group is not friendship for last join. and it's can't archive
> > >> ,btw,
> > >> Google search nothing.  WeChat is not open.
> > >>
> > >> Should we setup a webchat group first ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Jeff Zhang  于2020年2月25日周二 上午8:55写道：
> > >> >
> > >> >> Works for me if it is 9:30
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Xiangdong Huang  于2020年2月24日周一 下午11:54写道：
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> It would be great if we can put off half an hour...
> > >> >>> I have a short 10-minute meeting at 9 o'clock.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Best,
> > >> >>> ---
> > >> >>> Xiangdong Huang
> > >> >>> School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  黄向东
> > >> >>> 清华大学 软件学院
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月24日周一 下午11:23写道：
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>> Hi,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I think we could hold a online meeting through Zoom this Thursday
> > >> >>>> (27th Feb) night around 9:00 PM Beijing time.
> > >> >>>> It could be great if we introduce each other and talk about the
> > >> meetup
> > >> >>>> plan in the coming up month. We will send a mail to the mailing
> > list
> > >> >>>> to summarize the discussion we have.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Please let me know if the time works for you.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Willem Jiang
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang
> > >> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > -
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> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Best Regards
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jeff Zhang
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Best Regards
> > >> >
> > >> > Jeff Zhang
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> 独立之思想，自由之精神。
> > >> --陈寅恪
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Jeff Zhang

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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Zhenxu，

Thanks for reaching out，here are some information[1] about ALC-Beijing
and you can join the alc channel and hang out with us.

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing

Willem Jiang

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On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:42 PM Zhenxu Ke  wrote:
>
> Hi the community, I'm very interested in taking part to help promote the 
> Apache culture, learn the Apache Way in depth, and contribute to the 
> community, now I'm a PMC member of the SkyWalking project and a committer of 
> the Dubbo project, please let me know if there's anything that I can help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> GitHub ID: kezhenxu94
> Apache ID: kezhenxu94
>
> On 2019/12/03 02:50:52, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in
> > Beijing I know.  ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and
> > hold meetup together.
> >
> > Regards，
> >
> > Willem
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Re: [ALC] Apache way presentation

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Justin,

I totally agree with you, I will do it after some clean up on the presentation.

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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 5:30 AM Justin Mclean  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You might want to consider donating this to the Apache training project [1], 
> I had intended to but hadn’t found the cycles yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://training.apache.org
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[ALC] Apache way presentation

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

Here is an Apache introduction presentation[1] which I work with
Justin and Craig last year for Huawei Connect 2019. I just made some
changes[2] and adding some information about ALC-Beijing for Huawei
Developer Conference[3] which will be hold on line during March 27th
to March 28th.

Please feel free to use the content and create an issue or PR if you
spot any error.
Now there is English[4] and Chinese[5] version, we are looking forward
to have other language translation.

[1]https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk
[2]https://github.com/WillemJiang/ChinaApacheWayTalk/tree/HDC-2020
[3]https://www.huaweicloud.com/intl/en-us/HDC.Cloud.html
[4]https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk/blob/master/src/main/asciidoc/index_en.adoc
[5]https://github.com/justinmclean/ChinaApacheWayTalk/blob/master/src/main/asciidoc/index_cn.adoc

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Re: Tools for online meetups and conferences

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Tomek,

We are using Zoom, Tencent meeting[1] to host the online meetups or conference.
If there is less than 10 people join the meeting, I think Skype is a
good choice too.

BTW, Current ALC Beijing team just use Zoom for online meetings.

[1]https://meeting.tencent.com/sg/en/index.html

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On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:27 PM Tomasz Urbaszek  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The current situation with COVID19 pushes a lot of conferences and
> meetups into digital space. I am wondering if any of you have already
> experience in hosting such events online? Are there any OSS (or not)
> tools that are worth mentioning?
>
> It will be nice to hear suggestions, tips, and opinions from those who
> organized or participated in such events :)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Tomek Urbaszek
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Re: [ALC] Discussion about ALC WebSite

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Swapnil

For the ALC Beijing website, we just want to put some Chinese pages to
introduce ASF and ALC.
Thanks for the inputs. I agree we will have bunch of ALC Chapters, it
could be a nightmare for management if each Chapter has it's own
website.
How about we just put our effort on ALC website?
It could be great that  ALC Chapters to contribute all the contents to
ALC website, we could have a blog section to host these freestyle
articles, and we can also a directory on the website to the ALC
Chapters event there.

Cheers,

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On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:40 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Thanks Willem for the proposal and details.
> Below are my inputs on the ALC Website (#1) and ALC Chapter specific
> website (#2).
>
> #1.)
> +1 to have ALC Website.
> As ALC is ComDev initiative, we can have the ALC website at
> https://community.apache.org/alc
> like Solr project have its website under Lucene domain
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/
> We have complete content available on https://s.apache.org/alc, we can
> use it to prepare the ALC website.
>
> #2.)
> I am not sure about having ALC Chapter specific website because we may
> have many ALCs in the future.
> Still, we need to figure out how the ALC Chapter specific content can
> be managed, should we have a section for each ALC Chapters on the main
> ALC website, this was just input, not proposing anything.
> Maybe ComDev experts here can help us and share their inputs.
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:16 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > As you know, it's not a good time to host the f2f meetup due to the
> > COVID-19. So we are think about write some articles and host an online
> > meetup to grow the local community.
> > It's could be more easy for us to cooperate if we have a website for
> > ALC and ALC city to host the event information and articles.
> >
> > Here are some rafe thoughts we have during the team meeting[1], please
> > feel free to add you comments here.
> >
> > We prefer to use git to manage the content of website,  in this way
> > others can edit the content by sending PR for it. We could also
> > leverage the GitPublish mechanism that Apache Infra provide to publish
> > the website content.
> >
> > We can post blogs through the website and then publish the content to
> > "ALC-Beijing" WeChat public account.
> >
> > [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Team+meeting
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
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Re: WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Let's start the discussion first.
BTW, we also need to find a website framework engine to render the
markdown file into html.
There is a vote[1] on the dev@community about using Hugo[2] or
Jekyll[3] for the community website.

[1]https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rd5f62582ac2feb0d707cde413cc9288d681cb17b9f37ef71f349e078%40%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
[2]https://gohugo.io/
[3]https://jekyllrb.com/

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On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:22 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Should I create an ALC-Beijing repo for now? Or an org?
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年3月6日周五 下午3:14写道：
>
> > It should be fine that we have public github repo to let other work
> > together.
> > With the help of Github Page[1] or ASF GitPublish it's quite easy for
> > us to create a website.
> >
> > [1]https://pages.github.com/
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:23 AM Juan Pan  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for everyone’s effort.
> > > My main concern is that we just want to record content of each meeting
> > for us or to promote ALC Beijing to welcome others join?
> > > If it is the later, is gitHub a friendly way for people to look? I think
> > it is better to record and promote along with twitter or a website.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Trista
> > >
> > >
> > >  Juan Pan (Trista)
> > >
> > > Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> > > E-mail: panj...@apache.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 03/6/2020 07:23，Willem Jiang wrote：
> > > As we discussed during the ALC-Beijing meeting[1], the better solution
> > > is use git to host the content for us to corparted and the WeChat
> > > Public Account is for releasing the content to WeChat user.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:29 PM Sheng Wu 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am feeling a similar thing about private(sort of) content. Maybe it is
> > > not a big deal as it is still free and open to everyone as the fact is,
> > > everyone has the wechat already, but we could consider host it somewhere
> > > else, or achieve them in some way.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > 适兕  于2020年3月5日周四 下午6:45写道：
> > >
> > > Hi, Willem
> > >
> > > Well done.
> > >
> > > But I have  a question, WeChat Public is can not access from outside  of
> > > Tencent system. and it‘s URL is not for human being. Google can't search
> > ,
> > > the worst is in the WeChat Public article can not link Internet content.
> > > So I suggest , We need a space for store content first , Just  like
> > > GitHub page etc. WeChat Public is just one of the spread channel.
> > >
> > > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > FYI, I just applied a WeChat Public Account of alc-beijing.
> > > You can use "ALC Beijing" to search for the account if you are using
> > > WeChat.
> > > Please feel free to drop your articles about ASF or ASF projects in
> > > Chinese, we are happy to share it with our audience.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
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Re: WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

It should be fine that we have public github repo to let other work together.
With the help of Github Page[1] or ASF GitPublish it's quite easy for
us to create a website.

[1]https://pages.github.com/

Willem Jiang

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On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:23 AM Juan Pan  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> Thanks for everyone’s effort.
> My main concern is that we just want to record content of each meeting for us 
> or to promote ALC Beijing to welcome others join?
> If it is the later, is gitHub a friendly way for people to look? I think it 
> is better to record and promote along with twitter or a website.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Trista
>
>
>  Juan Pan (Trista)
>
> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
> E-mail: panj...@apache.org
>
>
>
>
> On 03/6/2020 07:23，Willem Jiang wrote：
> As we discussed during the ALC-Beijing meeting[1], the better solution
> is use git to host the content for us to corparted and the WeChat
> Public Account is for releasing the content to WeChat user.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:29 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> I am feeling a similar thing about private(sort of) content. Maybe it is
> not a big deal as it is still free and open to everyone as the fact is,
> everyone has the wechat already, but we could consider host it somewhere
> else, or achieve them in some way.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> 适兕  于2020年3月5日周四 下午6:45写道：
>
> Hi, Willem
>
> Well done.
>
> But I have  a question, WeChat Public is can not access from outside  of
> Tencent system. and it‘s URL is not for human being. Google can't search ,
> the worst is in the WeChat Public article can not link Internet content.
> So I suggest , We need a space for store content first , Just  like
> GitHub page etc. WeChat Public is just one of the spread channel.
>
> Any feedback is appreciated.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> FYI, I just applied a WeChat Public Account of alc-beijing.
> You can use "ALC Beijing" to search for the account if you are using
> WeChat.
> Please feel free to drop your articles about ASF or ASF projects in
> Chinese, we are happy to share it with our audience.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
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[ALC] Discussion about ALC WebSite

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,
As you know, it's not a good time to host the f2f meetup due to the
COVID-19. So we are think about write some articles and host an online
meetup to grow the local community.
It's could be more easy for us to cooperate if we have a website for
ALC and ALC city to host the event information and articles.

Here are some rafe thoughts we have during the team meeting[1], please
feel free to add you comments here.

We prefer to use git to manage the content of website,  in this way
others can edit the content by sending PR for it. We could also
leverage the GitPublish mechanism that Apache Infra provide to publish
the website content.

We can post blogs through the website and then publish the content to
"ALC-Beijing" WeChat public account.

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Team+meeting

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Re: WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

I'm sorry for forgetting post the link of the meeting page.
Here is the link:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing+Team+meeting

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 7:23 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> As we discussed during the ALC-Beijing meeting[1], the better solution
> is use git to host the content for us to corparted and the WeChat
> Public Account is for releasing the content to WeChat user.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:29 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > I am feeling a similar thing about private(sort of) content. Maybe it is
> > not a big deal as it is still free and open to everyone as the fact is,
> > everyone has the wechat already, but we could consider host it somewhere
> > else, or achieve them in some way.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > 适兕  于2020年3月5日周四 下午6:45写道：
> >
> > > Hi, Willem
> > >
> > >   Well done.
> > >
> > >   But I have  a question, WeChat Public is can not access from outside  of
> > > Tencent system. and it‘s URL is not for human being. Google can't search ,
> > > the worst is in the WeChat Public article can not link Internet content.
> > >   So I suggest , We need a space for store content first , Just  like
> > > GitHub page etc. WeChat Public is just one of the spread channel.
> > >
> > > Any feedback is appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
> > >
> > > > FYI, I just applied a WeChat Public Account of alc-beijing.
> > > > You can use "ALC Beijing" to search for the account if you are using
> > > > WeChat.
> > > > Please feel free to drop your articles about ASF or ASF projects in
> > > > Chinese, we are happy to share it with our audience.
> > > >
> > > > Willem Jiang
> > > >
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Re: WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

As we discussed during the ALC-Beijing meeting[1], the better solution
is use git to host the content for us to corparted and the WeChat
Public Account is for releasing the content to WeChat user.

Willem Jiang


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:29 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> I am feeling a similar thing about private(sort of) content. Maybe it is
> not a big deal as it is still free and open to everyone as the fact is,
> everyone has the wechat already, but we could consider host it somewhere
> else, or achieve them in some way.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> 适兕  于2020年3月5日周四 下午6:45写道：
>
> > Hi, Willem
> >
> >   Well done.
> >
> >   But I have  a question, WeChat Public is can not access from outside  of
> > Tencent system. and it‘s URL is not for human being. Google can't search ,
> > the worst is in the WeChat Public article can not link Internet content.
> >   So I suggest , We need a space for store content first , Just  like
> > GitHub page etc. WeChat Public is just one of the spread channel.
> >
> > Any feedback is appreciated.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:26 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
> >
> > > FYI, I just applied a WeChat Public Account of alc-beijing.
> > > You can use "ALC Beijing" to search for the account if you are using
> > > WeChat.
> > > Please feel free to drop your articles about ASF or ASF projects in
> > > Chinese, we are happy to share it with our audience.
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
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WeChat Public Account of ALC Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

FYI, I just applied a WeChat Public Account of alc-beijing.
You can use "ALC Beijing" to search for the account if you are using WeChat.
Please feel free to drop your articles about ASF or ASF projects in
Chinese, we are happy to share it with our audience.

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Re: [VOTE] Move community.a.o site from CMS/SVN to Hugo/Git

[Willem Jiang]

+1 (no-binding)
For moving to a modern website builder :)

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:11 PM Roy Lenferink  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> After this week's proposal [1] I'd like to start a formal vote on moving over 
> community.a.o from the
> current Apache CMS/SVN to Hugo/Git.
>
> Involved steps:
> - Create a comdev-site gitbox repository which will be synced with the 
> current comdev-site repo on
> GitHub.
> - Rename 'trunk' to 'master' and set 'master' as default branch (git repo)
> - Create a Jenkins job which generates the actual site to the 'asf-site' 
> branch
> - Move serving of community.a.o from svn to git
> - Remove 'community' from the CMS
> - Add a MOVED_TO_GIT file to the svn repo making clear the the directory 
> contents have moved
> to git.
>
> Please vote:
> [ ] +1 for moving over from the CMS/svn to Hugo/git.
> [ ] -1 for not moving over, in this case please explain why
>
> Best,
> Roy
>
> [1] 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r338baf731f509c6ae833600469c2b247cafe02022c1687a705a66012%40%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Gang,

Thank you to be interested about ACL Beijing.
Please feel free to join Apache Slack[1] and join #acl channel, and
ping me there.

[1] https://s.apache.org/slack-invite

Cheers,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 5:28 PM 李 岗  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Big +1 for the proposal!
>
> I come from Apache DolphinScheduler(incubating) and really like the idea.
> It's great to have ACL in Beijing.
>
> It'll be lucky if I can do something.
>
> DolphinScheduler(Incubator) PPMC
> Gang Li
>
>
> On 2019/12/03 02:50:52, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> > Hi,>
> >
> > I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in>
> > Beijing I know.  ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and>
> > hold meetup together.>
> >
> > Regards，>
> >
> > Willem>
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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

I just create a public editable document for the weekly meeting of ALC
Beijing.
Please add your name if you want to attend the meeting and feel free to
update the agenda.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mBu5ITy4p6nlv7jdBZ7Um0_zEJdTQso-jmxJ_gggCvQ/edit#

Here are the Zoom meeting links for today's meeting.

Topic: ALC Beijing Member meeting
Time: Feb 27, 2020 09:30 PM Beijing, Shanghai

Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.com.cn/j/848357269

Meeting ID: 848 357 269

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:06 AM zhangli...@apache.org <
zhangli...@apache.org> wrote:

> Do we need a precondition about base on Beijing for Members (or Full
> Members)?
>
> --
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月27日周四 上午10:56写道：
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:11 AM Sheng Wu 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hadrian
>>>
>>> I like this idea.
>>>
>>> > At least one member of the Steering Committee SHOULD be a member of
>>> dev@community.a.o.
>>> This means a committer of community.a.o, right?
>>>
>>
>> I guess it's just like the incubator.a.o,  SHOULD be PMC member of
>> community.a.o.
>>
>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>>>
>>> Hadrian Zbarcea  于2020年2月27日周四 上午4:47写道：
>>>
>>>> Hi Juan Pan,
>>>>
>>>> Best is to keep things simple. My suggestion would be to have 3 roles:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Associate Members = anybody interested, low barrier to entry
>>>> 2. Members (or Full Members) = members who are also committers to any
>>>> ASF project
>>>> 3. Steering Committee = elected from Full Members with an
>>>> administrative/organizational role (similar to a PMC); size up to you
>>>>
>>>> Associate Members would become Full Members simply by getting the Vote
>>>> of an ASF community/project, not special procedure would be necessary
>>>> inside the ALC. At least one member of the Steering Committee SHOULD be a
>>>> member of dev@community.a.o. You could consider removing Associate
>>>> Members who were inactive for a significant time, say 2 years.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Hadrian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:19 PM Juan Pan  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading the thread, two of questions came to my mind, i.e. What
>>>>> is the Responsibility of ALC member? How to become a ALC member?
>>>>> Moreover, i guess other ALCs will have the same questions as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the ALC doc[1], we can learn that the responsibilities of ALC are
>>>>> mostly related to Apache way, so if the responsibilities of a member is to
>>>>> help do those things,
>>>>> that means a member at least has a basic understanding of Apache or
>>>>> did some contributions?
>>>>> Secondly, if many of people who may has no understanding of Apache, or
>>>>> just want to be a member (for interest?), is it ok to include him as a
>>>>> member? Is there any condition or bar?
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, we may consider nomination and vote for a member. Our upcoming
>>>>> online meet up is a good chance to discuss.
>>>>>
>>>>> See you then.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Apache+Local+Community+-+ALC#ApacheLocalCommunity-ALC-ALCRolesandResponsibilities
>>>>>
>>>>>  *Juan Pan (Trista) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>>>>> E-mail: panj...@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/26/2020 09:53，Sheng Wu
>>>>>  wrote：
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hadrian
>>>>>
>>>>> So, from what I read in the thread above, I see you all being mostly in
>>>>>
>>>>> agreement, but are referring to different (and important) aspects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we are. We could discuss this more

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

OK,  I got SHOULD definition :)

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:04 AM Hadrian Zbarcea  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:56 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I guess it's just like the incubator.a.o,  SHOULD be PMC member of 
>> community.a.o.
>
>
> https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt
>
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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Hadrian,

Thanks for summarize the information.
As we just start the ACL Beijing, if we want to define the roles of
ACL, we could borrow some ideas of other Apache projects.
The basic principle is we need to follow the meritocracy way which is
a key point of Apache Way.
Let's discuss it in today's meeting.

Regards,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:27 AM Hadrian Zbarcea  wrote:
>
> Most of the disagreements on the ASF lists can be traced back to a 
> communication issue. I think I understand what Willem proposed and I agree on 
> the low bar aspect, but I think the way the term bar is used may create 
> unnecessary misunderstandings.
>
> This being an ASF local community, it must be guided by ASF standards (let's 
> not call them rules). This is in the interest of advancing the ASF values we 
> believe in and proved successful for over 2 decades. From this point of view 
> the people who are organizing the community must know what they're are doing, 
> Sheng Wu you are correct. There should be a way in which the organizers (or 
> members or whatever word we choose to describe that PMC member like role) 
> communicate with each other, build consensus and execute. If necessary, they 
> are smart and experienced enough to ask for advice from an ASF officer or the 
> board, whatever the case may be.
>
> On the other side, thinking about the intent behind the ACL Beijing, it is 
> not intended (I assume) as a private club, but a way to promote open source 
> and the ASF. From this point of view the community should be inclusive, there 
> should be a low bar to entry, there should be good and active mentoring of 
> new individuals (whatever we call them if not members) and they should be 
> encouraged, helped, guided, mentored to be successful with open source, ASF 
> projects and the ASF way in particular. Interested and talented individuals 
> will get the karma in ASF projects and will go as far as they want, and will 
> get a better understanding of what the ASF is about. The 'status' in the ACL 
> Beijing will come from their contributions to open source projects, not the 
> fact that they 'joined the club'. And to be clear, contributions don't mean 
> just code contributions.
>
> IMHO, it matters less if those who join are called members of the ALC, what 
> matters is what they do and how they are helped to become successful and how 
> they help others to become successful. Actually the term member is a bit 
> overloaded at the ASF as well. I remember many cases when newly voted PMC 
> members thought they are members of the foundation, and it took a bit for 
> them to understand the difference.
>
> So, from what I read in the thread above, I see you all being mostly in 
> agreement, but are referring to different (and important) aspects.
>
> Best of luck,
> Hadrian
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:04 AM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Willem
>>
>> I am pretty sure this should not be having a bar like a project official 
>> committer. But no bar? I don't think this is a reasonable idea.
>> As ALC we will use the Apache branding and Apache ALC branding, I prefer 
>> there should be some guides, otherwise, how should we protect it?
>>
>> And more, how should we make sure, the member could talk about the culture 
>> of Apache basically correct(I wouldn 't say accurate, but at least, not 
>> misguide)? -- This question is suitable for JianSheng too.
>> How about the next one asking joining the ALC, what should we do? If he is 
>> also not an Apache committer/PMC/member again
>>
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>
>>
>> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月25日周二 下午5:18写道：
>>>
>>> I don't think we need to setup a bar on the people who want to join the ALC.
>>> As we are short of hand to advocate the Apache way in China. I think
>>> JianSheng can provide a great help for us.
>>> ALC is not a Apache project, current we don't have the PMC or
>>> Committers, but I think community PMC can give us some guide and
>>> advices for it.
>>> Current the member of ALC Beijing are the active committers of Apache
>>> or other people who interesting about it.  We may need to discuss a
>>> way how to introduce new blood in a meritocracy way.
>>> The main purpose of ALC is building a local community around ASF
>>> projects, helping Apache projects cooperate with each other, and let
>>> Chinese community to know better about Apache Software Foundation.
>>> For the content we provide for the local audience should follow the
>>> Apache Way and for the logo and branding related issues we also need
>>> the a

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

should be encouraged, helped, guided, mentored to be successful with
>>> open source, ASF projects and the ASF way in particular. Interested and
>>> talented individuals will get the karma in ASF projects and will go as
>>> far
>>> as they want, and will get a better understanding of what the ASF is
>>> about.
>>> The 'status' in the ACL Beijing will come from their contributions to
>>> open
>>> source projects, not the fact that they 'joined the club'. And to be
>>> clear,
>>> contributions don't mean just code contributions.
>>>
>>> IMHO, it matters less if those who join are called members of the ALC,
>>> what matters is what they do and how they are helped to become successful
>>> and how they help others to become successful. Actually the term member
>>> is
>>> a bit overloaded at the ASF as well. I remember many cases when newly
>>> voted
>>> PMC members thought they are members of the foundation, and it took a bit
>>> for them to understand the difference.
>>>
>>> So, from what I read in the thread above, I see you all being mostly in
>>> agreement, but are referring to different (and important) aspects.
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:04 AM Sheng Wu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Willem
>>>
>>> I am pretty sure this should not be having a bar like a project official
>>> committer. But no bar? I don't think this is a reasonable idea.
>>> As ALC we will use the Apache branding and Apache ALC branding, I prefer
>>> there should be some guides, otherwise, how should we protect it?
>>>
>>> And more, how should we make sure, the member could talk about the
>>> culture of Apache basically correct(I wouldn 't say accurate, but at
>>> least,
>>> not misguide)? -- This question is suitable for JianSheng too.
>>> How about the next one asking joining the ALC, what should we do? If he
>>> is also not an Apache committer/PMC/member again
>>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>>>
>>> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月25日周二 下午5:18写道：
>>>
>>> I don't think we need to setup a bar on the people who want to join the
>>> ALC.
>>> As we are short of hand to advocate the Apache way in China. I think
>>> JianSheng can provide a great help for us.
>>> ALC is not a Apache project, current we don't have the PMC or
>>> Committers, but I think community PMC can give us some guide and
>>> advices for it.
>>> Current the member of ALC Beijing are the active committers of Apache
>>> or other people who interesting about it.  We may need to discuss a
>>> way how to introduce new blood in a meritocracy way.
>>> The main purpose of ALC is building a local community around ASF
>>> projects, helping Apache projects cooperate with each other, and let
>>> Chinese community to know better about Apache Software Foundation.
>>> For the content we provide for the local audience should follow the
>>> Apache Way and for the logo and branding related issues we also need
>>> the approve from Apache Branding officer.
>>>
>>> Willem Jiang
>>>
>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:45 PM Sheng Wu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Willem
>>>
>>> Is there any invitation rule(guide) about adding a new member?
>>> What is different between a member and not a member?
>>>
>>> To be clear, I am not objecting, I just don't get the context.
>>> In all other TLP project, member sometimes means a committer of ASF or
>>>
>>> that project. Which is the bar(s) of an ALC member? Or even is there a
>>> bar
>>> for this?
>>>
>>> The deep reason I asked about this, is from my understanding the ALC
>>>
>>> member needs to follow the Apache way, keep the branding used in the
>>> right
>>> way, and so on.
>>>
>>>
>>> To Jian Sheng
>>> Please don't feel I am not welcoming you to join or unfriendly.
>>>
>>> Really, I am not stopping you. I know the contributions you made for the
>>> Apache/Apache Way/Open source.
>>>
>>> I just want this community organized in the right and recommended way.
>>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

I don't think we need to setup a bar on the people who want to join the ALC.
As we are short of hand to advocate the Apache way in China. I think
JianSheng can provide a great help for us.
ALC is not a Apache project, current we don't have the PMC or
Committers, but I think community PMC can give us some guide and
advices for it.
Current the member of ALC Beijing are the active committers of Apache
or other people who interesting about it.  We may need to discuss a
way how to introduce new blood in a meritocracy way.
The main purpose of ALC is building a local community around ASF
projects, helping Apache projects cooperate with each other, and let
Chinese community to know better about Apache Software Foundation.
For the content we provide for the local audience should follow the
Apache Way and for the logo and branding related issues we also need
the approve from Apache Branding officer.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 4:45 PM Sheng Wu  wrote:
>
> Hi Willem
>
> Is there any invitation rule(guide) about adding a new member?
> What is different between a member and not a member?
>
> To be clear, I am not objecting, I just don't get the context.
> In all other TLP project, member sometimes means a committer of ASF or that 
> project. Which is the bar(s) of an ALC member? Or even is there a bar for 
> this?
> The deep reason I asked about this, is from my understanding the ALC member 
> needs to follow the Apache way, keep the branding used in the right way, and 
> so on.
>
> To Jian Sheng
> Please don't feel I am not welcoming you to join or unfriendly. Really, I am 
> not stopping you. I know the contributions you made for the Apache/Apache 
> Way/Open source.
> I just want this community organized in the right and recommended way.
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月25日周二 下午4:38写道：
>>
>> FYI, I just updated the wiki page[1] and added JianSheng into the member 
>> list.
>> Please let me know if you have any questions about it.
>>
>> BTW, please add your picture into the page if you have time :)
>>
>> [1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing
>>
>>
>> Willem Jiang
>>
>> Twitter: willemjiang
>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 2:20 PM Xiangdong Huang  wrote:
>> >
>> > +1.
>> > Jianshen  is very active for popularizing open source.
>> >
>> > jincheng sun 于2020年2月25日 周二下午12:30写道：
>> >>
>> >> +1 for your proposal Willem. I think we really need people who with
>> >> experience in Chinese communities to join us！
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Jincheng
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 适兕  于2020年2月23日周日 上午11:42写道：
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks Willem,
>> >> > It's honor ,  be happy to do something for ALC  Beijing.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:23 AM Willem Jiang 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd like to introduce Jianshen Li, he is the founder of a Chinese blog
>> >> >> which introduce Open Source Way for nearly 3 years.
>> >> >> Even he is not a Apache Committer, he translate bunch of ASF related
>> >> >> articles [1][2][3][4]into Chinese, I think it helps lot for promote
>> >> >> ASF in Chinese community.
>> >> >> Now I'm working closely with JIanshen to write more articles for the
>> >> >> newbie who want to join the Open Source in China.
>> >> >> I'd like to invite him as a member of ALC Beijing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any throught？
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [1]
>> >> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/asf-founders-look-back-on-20-years/
>> >> >> [2]
>> >> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/the_apache_way_to_sustainable_os/
>> >> >> [3]
>> >> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/five-year-strategic-plan-for-the-asf-2018/
>> >> >> [4]
>> >> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/how_apache_works/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Willem Jiang
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Twitter: willemjiang
>> >> >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 9:57 AM 适兕  wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> &

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

FYI, I just updated the wiki page[1] and added JianSheng into the member list.
Please let me know if you have any questions about it.

BTW, please add your picture into the page if you have time :)

[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ALC+Beijing


Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 2:20 PM Xiangdong Huang  wrote:
>
> +1.
> Jianshen  is very active for popularizing open source.
>
> jincheng sun 于2020年2月25日 周二下午12:30写道：
>>
>> +1 for your proposal Willem. I think we really need people who with
>> experience in Chinese communities to join us！
>>
>> Best,
>> Jincheng
>>
>>
>> 适兕  于2020年2月23日周日 上午11:42写道：
>>
>> > Thanks Willem,
>> > It's honor ,  be happy to do something for ALC  Beijing.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:23 AM Willem Jiang 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to introduce Jianshen Li, he is the founder of a Chinese blog
>> >> which introduce Open Source Way for nearly 3 years.
>> >> Even he is not a Apache Committer, he translate bunch of ASF related
>> >> articles [1][2][3][4]into Chinese, I think it helps lot for promote
>> >> ASF in Chinese community.
>> >> Now I'm working closely with JIanshen to write more articles for the
>> >> newbie who want to join the Open Source in China.
>> >> I'd like to invite him as a member of ALC Beijing.
>> >>
>> >> Any throught？
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/asf-founders-look-back-on-20-years/
>> >> [2]
>> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/the_apache_way_to_sustainable_os/
>> >> [3]
>> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/five-year-strategic-plan-for-the-asf-2018/
>> >> [4]
>> >> http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/how_apache_works/
>> >>
>> >> Willem Jiang
>> >>
>> >> Twitter: willemjiang
>> >> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 9:57 AM 适兕  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, Swapnil and Willem ,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am very interested helping for ALC  BeiJing,
>> >> >
>> >> > + 1 from me.
>> >> >
>> >> > As open source advocate , I am the founder of opensourceway.community
>> >> ,  Dedicated to the exploration of ideas, knowledge and values related to
>> >> open source.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 8:04 PM Swapnil M Mane 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Done Xiangdong, please check.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Swapnil M Mane,
>> >> >> www.apache.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:14 PM Xiangdong Huang 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi Swapnil,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'd like to apply for the edit rights for the confluence.
>> >> >> > My Confluence id is hxd.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many thanks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> > Xiangdong Huang
>> >> >> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >  黄向东
>> >> >> > 清华大学 软件学院
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Swapnil M Mane  于2020年2月18日周二 下午6:59写道：
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Hello ALC Beijing team,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Hope you are doing well, it gives immense pleasure to us to update
>> >> you
>> >> >> > > that the vote is passed by ComDev PMC to establish ALC Beijing
>> >> Chapter
>> >> >> > > and Willem Jiang as ALC Beijing Chapter lead.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Here are the placeholder pages created in ComDev space
>> >> >> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
>> >> >> > > https://s.apache.org/

Re: How about we hold a online meeting of ALC Beijing this thursday?

[Willem Jiang]

Yes, I think we can start at 9:30 PM. The meeting is about half an hour.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:54 PM Xiangdong Huang  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It would be great if we can put off half an hour...
> I have a short 10-minute meeting at 9 o'clock.
>
> Best,
> ---
> Xiangdong Huang
> School of Software, Tsinghua University
>
>  黄向东
> 清华大学 软件学院
>
>
> Willem Jiang  于2020年2月24日周一 下午11:23写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think we could hold a online meeting through Zoom this Thursday
> > (27th Feb) night around 9:00 PM Beijing time.
> > It could be great if we introduce each other and talk about the meetup
> > plan in the coming up month. We will send a mail to the mailing list
> > to summarize the discussion we have.
> >
> > Please let me know if the time works for you.
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
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How about we hold a online meeting of ALC Beijing this thursday?

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

I think we could hold a online meeting through Zoom this Thursday
(27th Feb) night around 9:00 PM Beijing time.
It could be great if we introduce each other and talk about the meetup
plan in the coming up month. We will send a mail to the mailing list
to summarize the discussion we have.

Please let me know if the time works for you.

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Re: [ALC] Branding and logo

[Willem Jiang]

I really like the idea.
Here my big +1.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:57 AM jincheng sun  wrote:
>
> +1  for both Tomek‘s proposal and Willem‘s suggestion.
>
> I would like share my thoughts:
>
> Maybe we can have three parts, and on the left is a picture and 2 lines of 
> text on the right, just like Tomek‘s proposal. Regarding the picture, we have 
> two options:
>
>  1) With the localized Character of the city, Such as ACL Beijing, could use 
> "京" as the left part.
>  2) Using ASF logo Or ACL logo, i.e,  ACL designates a Logo, and each chapter 
> 's logo contains the ACL logo.
>
> Best,
> Jincheng
>
>
> Jarek Potiuk  于2020年2月23日周日 下午3:21写道：
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 4:31 AM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>>
>> > +1 for it.
>> >
>> > BTW, Can we add some localized Character like Chinese into the logo?
>> >
>> > Willem Jiang
>> >
>> > Twitter: willemjiang
>> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:51 AM Tomasz Urbaszek 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > My only idea (apart from #LoveApache badge) was to have: "ALC (ASF
>> > > Feather here) CityName" for short option and two-line bigger version
>> > > "CityName / Apache Local Community" with first line bigger than the
>> > > second line.
>> > >
>> > > Bests,
>> > > Tomek
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:51 PM Swapnil M Mane 
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you Tomasz for bringing this topic and Jarek, Mark, and, Sharan
>> > for your kind inputs.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have few thoughts for ALC logo since beginning of this initiative,
>> > will share it soon.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Sally
>> > > > Thank you for your help.
>> > > > We don’t have any specific timeframe for this.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Kenneth,
>> > > > Nice to see you again, I will share some design thoughts, will sync up
>> > with you on this.
>> > > >
>> > > > @Team, if you have any design ideas, please feel free to share.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards,
>> > > > Swapnil M Mane
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 at 11:17 PM, Sally Khudairi  
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thank you, Mark. Hello, Tomasz.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ASF Marketing & Publicity will be happy to help with a logo for ALC
>> > through our Central Services team. I am not aware of the official cities
>> > involved, other than announcement from Swapnil on the Indore chapter. I
>> > also understand that Warsaw, Beijing, and Budapest are candidate cities
>> > from the ComDev archives.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I think Sharan's suggestion of creating a variant of the #LoveApache
>> > badge is a possibility in terms of design.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I'm copying Kenneth Paskett, Central Services creative lead, to see
>> > what options are possible and get back to you.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Is there a specific timeframe for this?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Best,
>> > > >> Sally
>> > > >>
>> > > >> - - -
>> > > >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
>> > > >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
>> > > >> The Apache Software Foundation
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, at 09:11, Mark Thomas wrote:
>> > > >> > On February 17, 2020 8:04:03 AM UTC, Tomasz Urbaszek
>> > > >> >  wrote:
>> > > >> > >Thanks Jarek for the information (I am wondering how this applies
>> > to
>> > > >> > >use
>> > > >> > >the badge generator with two feathers:
>> > > >> > >https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ ).
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >I am looping in trademarks@ as it seems we will need some help :)
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >T.
>> &

Re: [ALC] Branding and logo

[Willem Jiang]

+1 for it.

BTW, Can we add some localized Character like Chinese into the logo?

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:51 AM Tomasz Urbaszek  wrote:
>
> My only idea (apart from #LoveApache badge) was to have: "ALC (ASF
> Feather here) CityName" for short option and two-line bigger version
> "CityName / Apache Local Community" with first line bigger than the
> second line.
>
> Bests,
> Tomek
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:51 PM Swapnil M Mane  
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Tomasz for bringing this topic and Jarek, Mark, and, Sharan for 
> > your kind inputs.
> >
> > I have few thoughts for ALC logo since beginning of this initiative, will 
> > share it soon.
> >
> > @Sally
> > Thank you for your help.
> > We don’t have any specific timeframe for this.
> >
> > @Kenneth,
> > Nice to see you again, I will share some design thoughts, will sync up with 
> > you on this.
> >
> > @Team, if you have any design ideas, please feel free to share.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 at 11:17 PM, Sally Khudairi  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank you, Mark. Hello, Tomasz.
> >>
> >> ASF Marketing & Publicity will be happy to help with a logo for ALC 
> >> through our Central Services team. I am not aware of the official cities 
> >> involved, other than announcement from Swapnil on the Indore chapter. I 
> >> also understand that Warsaw, Beijing, and Budapest are candidate cities 
> >> from the ComDev archives.
> >>
> >> I think Sharan's suggestion of creating a variant of the #LoveApache badge 
> >> is a possibility in terms of design.
> >>
> >> I'm copying Kenneth Paskett, Central Services creative lead, to see what 
> >> options are possible and get back to you.
> >>
> >> Is there a specific timeframe for this?
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Sally
> >>
> >> - - -
> >> Vice President Marketing & Publicity
> >> Vice President Sponsor Relations
> >> The Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >> Tel +1 617 921 8656 | s...@apache.org
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, at 09:11, Mark Thomas wrote:
> >> > On February 17, 2020 8:04:03 AM UTC, Tomasz Urbaszek
> >> >  wrote:
> >> > >Thanks Jarek for the information (I am wondering how this applies to
> >> > >use
> >> > >the badge generator with two feathers:
> >> > >https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ ).
> >> > >
> >> > >I am looping in trademarks@ as it seems we will need some help :)
> >> > >
> >> > >T.
> >> > >
> >> > >On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 8:49 AM Jarek Potiuk  wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I am afraid rules of Apache logo are rather strict about it. Not sure
> >> > >about
> >> > >> ALC, but I think Apache Feather is the most protected asset of ASF
> >> > >:).
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I think I have not seen that apache logo used anywhere except
> >> > >ApacheCon and
> >> > >> there are specific rules for NOT using Apache logo in the events:
> >> > >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/events.html#graphics
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "
> >> > >> Events may not normally use any Apache logos or graphics as part of
> >> > >their
> >> > >> primary event branding. Apache product logos may only be used to
> >> > >refer to
> >> > >> the Apache products or projects themselves, and must be clearly set
> >> > >off
> >> > >> from any of the events' own branding and logos.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> If your event wishes to use an Apache project logo within your event
> >> > >> branding, you must work with VP, Brand to explicitly grant trademark
> >> > >and
> >> > >> goodwill rights for the brand and event logo to the ASF.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Event branding may not include the Apache feather in any way. The
> >> > >only use
> >> > >> of the bare Apache feather on event materials allowed is to provide a
> >> > >> single link to http://www.apache.org/ as a reference to The Apache
> >> >

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

I'd like to introduce Jianshen Li, he is the founder of a Chinese blog
which introduce Open Source Way for nearly 3 years.
Even he is not a Apache Committer, he translate bunch of ASF related
articles [1][2][3][4]into Chinese, I think it helps lot for promote
ASF in Chinese community.
Now I'm working closely with JIanshen to write more articles for the
newbie who want to join the Open Source in China.
I'd like to invite him as a member of ALC Beijing.

Any throught？

[1]http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/asf-founders-look-back-on-20-years/
[2]http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/the_apache_way_to_sustainable_os/
[3]http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/five-year-strategic-plan-for-the-asf-2018/
[4]http://opensourceway.community/posts/foundation_introduce/how_apache_works/

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 9:57 AM 适兕  wrote:
>
> Hi, Swapnil and Willem ,
>
> I am very interested helping for ALC  BeiJing,
>
> + 1 from me.
>
> As open source advocate , I am the founder of opensourceway.community  ,  
> Dedicated to the exploration of ideas, knowledge and values related to open 
> source.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 8:04 PM Swapnil M Mane  
> wrote:
>>
>> Done Xiangdong, please check.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Swapnil M Mane,
>> www.apache.org
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:14 PM Xiangdong Huang  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Swapnil,
>> >
>> > I'd like to apply for the edit rights for the confluence.
>> > My Confluence id is hxd.
>> >
>> > Many thanks.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > ---
>> > Xiangdong Huang
>> > School of Software, Tsinghua University
>> >
>> >  黄向东
>> > 清华大学 软件学院
>> >
>> >
>> > Swapnil M Mane  于2020年2月18日周二 下午6:59写道：
>> >
>> > > Hello ALC Beijing team,
>> > >
>> > > Hope you are doing well, it gives immense pleasure to us to update you
>> > > that the vote is passed by ComDev PMC to establish ALC Beijing Chapter
>> > > and Willem Jiang as ALC Beijing Chapter lead.
>> > >
>> > > Here are the placeholder pages created in ComDev space
>> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
>> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing-events
>> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing-reports
>> > >
>> > > I have given edit rights on Confluence for ComDev wiki to following
>> > > members (since I found their confluence IDs)
>> > > -- Willem Jiang
>> > > -- Jeff Zhang
>> > > -- Liang Zhang
>> > > -- Jincheng Sun
>> > > -- Sheng Wu
>> > > -- Juan Pan
>> > >
>> > > Rest members, please feel free to mail on the dev list to request the
>> > > edit rights with your confluence ID.
>> > >
>> > > We would also like to connect you with Aditya Sharma.
>> > > Aditya is a very active member of ALC Indore Chapter and will be with
>> > > you for an initial few months to support and assist you so that you
>> > > will be familiar with the processes followed by ALC Chapter for its
>> > > execution ( https://s.apache.org/d4anc ).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dear Willem and team,
>> > > We have the following roles and responsibilities as ALC Chapter and
>> > > ALC Chapter lead:
>> > > [Online version of this is available at
>> > > https://s.apache.org/ALC-Chapter-Lead-RR ]
>> > >
>> > >  1. Making sure the 'ALC Code of Conduct (
>> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-code-of-conduct )' is followed by the ALC
>> > > Chapter.
>> > >
>> > >  2. All the events organized by the ALC Chapter are following the
>> > > Guidelines to organize ALC Event ( s.apache.org/alc-guidelines ).
>> > >
>> > >  3. Chapter lead will submit the status report (
>> > > https://s.apache.org/alc-reports ) to ComDev (
>> > > dev@community.apache.org ) in every *three months* based on their
>> > > reporting cycle.
>> > > For ALC Beijing the reporting cycle is May, August, November, February.
>> > >
>> > >  4. Chapter Lead will be the point of contact for the respective ALC
>> > > Chapter.
>> > >
>> > > If you have any queries or questions, please feel free to post on dev 
>> > > list.
>> > >
>> > > All the very best team, and

Re: [Announcement] - Establishing ALC Beijing Chapter

[Willem Jiang]

Yes, I think we could setup a Zoom meeting to let all the member meet.
Then we can discuss if we can hold a online meetup in the coming up next month.

Willem Jiang

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On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:43 PM zhangli...@apache.org
 wrote:
>
> Online meeting and remote working are the best practice of apache way, we
> can learn more from the crisis.
>
> Hope everything will be better soon :)
>
> --
>
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>
>
> 适兕  于2020年2月19日周三 下午5:10写道：
>
> > yes, online meeting is mainstream in all China now.
> > maybe we should thinking this way.
> >
> > Sheng Wu  于2020年2月19日周三 下午5:00写道：
> >
> > > Hi Craig
> > >
> > > Thanks. Out of the Hubei Province, it is already being better. It is
> > still
> > > not suitable for the f2f meetup, but online ones should be fine :)
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig Russell  于2020年2月19日周三 下午2:02写道：
> > >
> > > > Congratulations to everyone involved in the new ALC in Beijing.
> > > >
> > > > I can only imagine how hard it is for you during the coronavirus
> > > situation
> > > > and wish you a speedy resolution to the crisis.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > > > On Feb 18, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Swapnil M Mane  > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > ComDev PMC is pleased to announce our next ALC Chapter, ALC Beijing
> > > > > [1] and Willem Jiang as ALC Beijing Chapter lead.
> > > > > We have the following members in ALC Beijing:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Willem Jiang
> > > > > -- ASF Member
> > > > > -- Chair, Servicecomb
> > > > > -- PMC (Camel, CXF, Incubator, RocketMQ, ServiceMix, SkyWalking)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Jeff Zhang
> > > > > -- ASF Member
> > > > > -- PMC (Tez, Zeppelin)
> > > > > -- Committer (Incubator, Pig, Submarine, Livy)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Hadrian Zbarcea
> > > > > -- ASF Member
> > > > > -- PMC (Brooklyn, Camel, Incubator, TinkerPop)
> > > > > -- Non-PMC (Fundraising)
> > > > > -- Committer (ActiveMQ, Labs)
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. Liu Ted
> > > > > -- ASF Member
> > > > > -- PMC (Incubator)
> > > > > -- Non-PMC (Fundraising)
> > > > >
> > > > > 5. Sheng Wu
> > > > > -- Chair, SkyWalking
> > > > > -- PMC (Incubator)
> > > > > -- Committer (DolphinScheduler, ECharts, and ShardingSphere)
> > > > >
> > > > > 6. Liang Zhang
> > > > > -- PMC (Dubbo)
> > > > > -- Committer (Incubator, ShardingSphere)
> > > > >
> > > > > 7. Jincheng Sun
> > > > > -- PMC (Flink)
> > > > > -- Committer (Incubator, IoTDB)
> > > > >
> > > > > 8. Xiangdong Huang
> > > > > -- Committer (Incubator, IoTDB)
> > > > >
> > > > > 9. Juan Pan
> > > > > -- Committer (ShardingSphere, Incubator)
> > > > >
> > > > > 10. Skylar Deranick
> > > > >
> > > > > Please join me in congratulating the ALC Beijing Chapter and wishing
> > > > > them the best luck for their future events.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Swapnil M Mane,
> > > > > www.apache.org
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Craig L Russell
> > > > c...@apache.org
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 独立之思想，自由之精神。
> > --陈寅恪
> >

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Re: [Announcement] - Establishing ALC Beijing Chapter

[Willem Jiang]

Yeah, it's really a great news.
Even we cannot hold the meetup right now, I think we could plan and
prepare bunch of meetup in the coming months.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:03 PM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> ComDev PMC is pleased to announce our next ALC Chapter, ALC Beijing
> [1] and Willem Jiang as ALC Beijing Chapter lead.
> We have the following members in ALC Beijing:
>
> 1. Willem Jiang
>  -- ASF Member
>  -- Chair, Servicecomb
>  -- PMC (Camel, CXF, Incubator, RocketMQ, ServiceMix, SkyWalking)
>
>  2. Jeff Zhang
>  -- ASF Member
>  -- PMC (Tez, Zeppelin)
>  -- Committer (Incubator, Pig, Submarine, Livy)
>
>  3. Hadrian Zbarcea
>  -- ASF Member
>  -- PMC (Brooklyn, Camel, Incubator, TinkerPop)
>  -- Non-PMC (Fundraising)
>  -- Committer (ActiveMQ, Labs)
>
>  4. Liu Ted
>  -- ASF Member
>  -- PMC (Incubator)
>  -- Non-PMC (Fundraising)
>
> 5. Sheng Wu
>  -- Chair, SkyWalking
>  -- PMC (Incubator)
>  -- Committer (DolphinScheduler, ECharts, and ShardingSphere)
>
>  6. Liang Zhang
>  -- PMC (Dubbo)
>  -- Committer (Incubator, ShardingSphere)
>
>  7. Jincheng Sun
>  -- PMC (Flink)
>  -- Committer (Incubator, IoTDB)
>
>  8. Xiangdong Huang
>  -- Committer (Incubator, IoTDB)
>
>  9. Juan Pan
>  -- Committer (ShardingSphere, Incubator)
>
>  10. Skylar Deranick
>
> Please join me in congratulating the ALC Beijing Chapter and wishing
> them the best luck for their future events.
>
> [1] https://s.apache.org/alc-beijing
>
>
> Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
>
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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi  Swapnil ,

Thanks for the reply and I'm really appreciate you and ComDev put lot
of efforts on building ALC. I will keep my figure crossed for the
proposal get approval.
I'm really exciting about we are doing something meaningful by
spreading the awareness on Apache and open source in the local
community.
Please let me know if there anything need help from my side.

Cheers,

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:05 AM Swapnil M Mane  wrote:
>
> Thank you so much Willem for these details and hello everyone!
> Beijing is having a great team! :-)
>
> As mentioned in the separate mail thread,
> we are working on drafting the ALC proposal for the board.
>
> So, by the time, we post the proposal and get approval from board, we
> will have to wait.
> Thank you so much for your patient.
>
> - Best regards,
> Swapnil M Mane,
> www.apache.org
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:25 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Swapnil,
> >
> > There are some background about the ALC Beijing, I'd like to share with 
> > ComDev.
> > I know there are at least 8 Apache projects(HBase,Skywalking,
> > ServiceComb, Shardingsphere, brpc, doris, IotDB, DophineSchedular) PMC
> > (PPMC) , committers who are based in Beijing.
> > Last weekend ShardingSphere and DophineSchedular just held a meetup
> > together[1], and IoTDB and DophineSchedular are planning to hold a
> > meetup next month.
> > I think it could be great if we can hold events under Apache Local
> > Community umbrella.
> >
> > [1]https://twitter.com/ShardingSphere/status/1204230834368040960?s=20
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 4:26 PM Swapnil M Mane  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you so much team overwhelming response! :)
> > > The ComDev PMC is looking into the request and guidelines to process
> > > the request, please be patient.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, please feel free to have a look at the following
> > > resources for informational purpose.
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/alc
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/ALC-Resources
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/ALC-Chapters
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/alc-reports
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/alc-indore
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/ALC-Indore-Events
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/alc-indore-reports
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/alc-indore-apache-hackathon
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/The-Apache-Day-Sept-19
> > > -- https://s.apache.org/OS-ASF-Awareness-Nov-19
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Swapnil M Mane,
> > > www.apache.org
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:25 PM jincheng sun  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Big +1, and would be nice to have ACL in Beijing :)
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jincheng
> > > >
> > > > zhangli...@apache.org  于2019年12月3日周二 下午4:53写道：
> > > >
> > > > > +1, hope to see you guys soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Liang Zhang (John)
> > > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Zhang  于2019年12月3日周二 上午11:02写道：
> > > > >
> > > > > > Definitely +1, it would be nice to have ACL in China.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xiangdong Huang  于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:54写道：
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 for the proposal!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I come from Apache IoTDB community and really like the idea,
> > > > > > > which is much helpful to popularize ASF and Apache projects in 
> > > > > > > Beijing
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > China.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > Xiangdong Huang
> > > > > > > School of Software, Tsinghua University
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  黄向东
> > > > > > > 清华大学 软件学院
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Willem Jiang  于2019年12月3日周二 上午10:51写道：
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > &g

Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Ted,

Thanks for your reply.
Please feel free to join our event.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:15 PM Liu Ted  wrote:
>
> A big +1 and I'm based in Beijing where I can help out.
> Ted Liu, ASF Member
>
>   2019 年 12 月 3 日周二 10:51，Willem Jiang 写道：   Hi,
>
> I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in
> Beijing I know.  ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and
> hold meetup together.
>
> Regards，
>
> Willem
>
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Re: [ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi Hadrain,

Thanks for your kindly reply. I will ping you once I need any help
from your side :)

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 2:25 AM Hadrian Zbarcea  wrote:
>
> Hi Willem,
>
> I think this is a great initiative that I support and volunteer to assist
> with if needed. If you would like to have somebody to help coordinate on
> this side of the ocean, please let me know, I'd be happy to assist. Other
> than that, a big +1 from me.
>
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:51 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in
> > Beijing I know.  ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and
> > hold meetup together.
> >
> > Regards，
> >
> > Willem
> >
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[ALC] Request to setup ALC in Beijing

[Willem Jiang]

Hi,

I'm Apache member and there are bunch of Apache project developers in
Beijing I know.  ALC just give us a very good excuse to hand out and
hold meetup together.

Regards，

Willem

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