Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Yes no problem. I'm trying to get a magazine together for OpenOffice. At the moment I've got a bit of a layout done and requested some articles off a few organisations that use OpenOffice. Hot had any articles yet still waiting. As far as a name goes not sure what to call it yet the nearest I can come up with is OpenOffice Magzine. As far as payment for articles go. If money groes on tress or comes out of thin air then you'll get very rich writing for the project as no payment are provided it is a community project and I expect the community to provide some free content. If you are interested in helping out with hte project then please get in touch and we can discuss this further. The mag as is or as far as I have got can be downloaded from http://documentation.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=714expandFolder=714folderID=0 take a look let me know if you have any suggestions that might help or better still send any article or tutorials if you have them. Thanks Dai On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 18:04 -0400, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2007-09-05, at 07:50 , David wrote: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. I'm sorry for entering the party so late but I normally don't track this list. However, discussions about OpenOffice Magazine came up recently on the ODF Adoption list. The idea of a magazine calling itself openoffice magazine was first raised, I believe, a while ago, in fact, last 16 December. That was referring to a Polish magazine. This one is of course not that one :-) I'd thus agree with Simon, as names are often more than names. They are property. ;-/ Anyway, I'm curious about the current thinking regarding payment, its relation to the site, and so on. Would you be so kind as to lay it out for us? A general magazine that, say, complements our newsletter and so on, is great; and one that works with the community to further their voices is also good. But we clearly have to be careful about issues of property, etc., as I'm sure you've come to realize. Thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
On 2007-09-05, at 07:50 , David wrote: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. I'm sorry for entering the party so late but I normally don't track this list. However, discussions about OpenOffice Magazine came up recently on the ODF Adoption list. The idea of a magazine calling itself openoffice magazine was first raised, I believe, a while ago, in fact, last 16 December. That was referring to a Polish magazine. This one is of course not that one :-) I'd thus agree with Simon, as names are often more than names. They are property. ;-/ Anyway, I'm curious about the current thinking regarding payment, its relation to the site, and so on. Would you be so kind as to lay it out for us? A general magazine that, say, complements our newsletter and so on, is great; and one that works with the community to further their voices is also good. But we clearly have to be careful about issues of property, etc., as I'm sure you've come to realize. Thanks Louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
David wrote: The format? I was thinking of using Sribus On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 10:41 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: distribution via doc.oo.o? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes no problem with distribution through doc.oo.o You'll have to forgive me I thought you meant create the mag with writer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
David, be sure to keep this list in the loop! Did you consider distribution via doc.oo.o? Frank David wrote: I think you've hit the nail on the head Jean Those are the things that need to go in the mag. Although one section you mention will be very thin book reviews not many books on openoffice but we will review the ones that are published If I can get hold of A copy of the books or if some-one else writes a review. Yes I have the latest version of FullCircle in landscape and you are right it is better for reading on the screen. There definately seems to be enough enthusiasm about this project so next week I will start on the art work for the mag. On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 08:39 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: David wrote: Have you any ideas for content. Tutorials is section is a must interviews would be good or user experience section * Book reviews (Solveig's book, the OOoAuthors books, many others) with info on where/how to get them * Reviews (and/or how-to's) of extensions and compatible products like Bibus and Dmaths * Reviews of websites blogs about OOo * Case studies of cool things people have done using OOo, or problems solved * Case studies of deployments, eg replacing MSOffice in a local school or a small business * Marketing/promotional news: things people have done at any level, especially grass-roots * Showcase some artwork (web banners, posters, etc) with links to where people can get them from the OOo website * Reminders of where to get help, tips, other info: forums, lists, etc; also unofficial places like Solveig Haugland's blog or 8daysaweek * Community news, eg some photos and an article about the OOoCon later this month. Advance notice of events (if possible given publishing schedule) * Info on how to join the community and contribute * Timeline for new OOo releases, with hints about what will be in them and pointer to where to get more info * Other news gleaned from developer blogs (a great source of info) also what about ides for styling and look feel of the mag. Some feedback on these areas would be good just to gauge what others want of such a magazine. What format/s are you looking at providing this magazine in: PDF? Design it landscape oriented (not portrait) so it's easier to read on a computer screen -- like issue 4 of the Ubuntu magazine you mentioned in your first note. I may think of some other things later. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frank Peters, Documentation Project Co-Lead The OOo Documentation Project: SIGN UP - PARTICIPATE - CONTRIBUTE IT'S FREE! NO OBLIGATIONS! http://documentation.openoffice.org http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
The format? I was thinking of using Sribus On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 10:41 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: distribution via doc.oo.o? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
I think you've hit the nail on the head Jean Those are the things that need to go in the mag. Although one section you mention will be very thin book reviews not many books on openoffice but we will review the ones that are published If I can get hold of A copy of the books or if some-one else writes a review. Yes I have the latest version of FullCircle in landscape and you are right it is better for reading on the screen. There definately seems to be enough enthusiasm about this project so next week I will start on the art work for the mag. On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 08:39 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: David wrote: Have you any ideas for content. Tutorials is section is a must interviews would be good or user experience section * Book reviews (Solveig's book, the OOoAuthors books, many others) with info on where/how to get them * Reviews (and/or how-to's) of extensions and compatible products like Bibus and Dmaths * Reviews of websites blogs about OOo * Case studies of cool things people have done using OOo, or problems solved * Case studies of deployments, eg replacing MSOffice in a local school or a small business * Marketing/promotional news: things people have done at any level, especially grass-roots * Showcase some artwork (web banners, posters, etc) with links to where people can get them from the OOo website * Reminders of where to get help, tips, other info: forums, lists, etc; also unofficial places like Solveig Haugland's blog or 8daysaweek * Community news, eg some photos and an article about the OOoCon later this month. Advance notice of events (if possible given publishing schedule) * Info on how to join the community and contribute * Timeline for new OOo releases, with hints about what will be in them and pointer to where to get more info * Other news gleaned from developer blogs (a great source of info) also what about ides for styling and look feel of the mag. Some feedback on these areas would be good just to gauge what others want of such a magazine. What format/s are you looking at providing this magazine in: PDF? Design it landscape oriented (not portrait) so it's easier to read on a computer screen -- like issue 4 of the Ubuntu magazine you mentioned in your first note. I may think of some other things later. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
David wrote: ... one section you mention will be very thin book reviews not many books on openoffice but we will review the ones that are published If I can get hold of A copy of the books or if some-one else writes a review. This page of my website lists 19 books on OOo 2.x, and I'm not at all sure that I've spotted them all. http://taming-openoffice-org.com/newsite/?page_id=34 Some of these books are available in free PDF; others can often be obtained by asking the publisher for a review copy. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
David, Like your reply seems to suggest it will all depend on content but, news section about what is going on with some in-depth coverage to high-lite projects or a particular project in turn would be good. don't underestimate the effort for such undertaking. If you plan to have a regular release schedule you need to come up with fresh stuff regularly. This will be a lot of work if you plan to do it yourself. On the other hand, the OOo doc project would very much benefit from tutorials, articles, and howtos of any kind. So if you have made some progress in your planning, we should see how doc.oo.o can tie into that, as a publication platform and/or by reusing magazine content and integrate it to the docs portfolio. I'd be happy to assist you in that reagard. -f -- Frank Peters, Documentation Project Co-Lead The OOo Documentation Project: SIGN UP - PARTICIPATE - CONTRIBUTE IT'S FREE! NO OBLIGATIONS! http://documentation.openoffice.org http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Just kicking around ideas at the moment but like you say, I'd need stuff on a regular basis to have any sort of schedule. I think for now just take news items and tutorials as they come from the OOo site just to start off then if it gets going we'll try for some sort of schedule release like 1 a month. I think it's about having sections of the mag that can be filled easily because there is quite a bit of material available. I wouldn't mind collaborating with others on this as I think it's more than a one man job to have a regular release schedule. On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 14:08 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: David, Like your reply seems to suggest it will all depend on content but, news section about what is going on with some in-depth coverage to high-lite projects or a particular project in turn would be good. don't underestimate the effort for such undertaking. If you plan to have a regular release schedule you need to come up with fresh stuff regularly. This will be a lot of work if you plan to do it yourself. On the other hand, the OOo doc project would very much benefit from tutorials, articles, and howtos of any kind. So if you have made some progress in your planning, we should see how doc.oo.o can tie into that, as a publication platform and/or by reusing magazine content and integrate it to the docs portfolio. I'd be happy to assist you in that reagard. -f - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Like your reply seems to suggest it will all depend on content but, news section about what is going on with some in-depth coverage to high-lite projects or a particular project in turn would be good. On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 00:20 -0500, Scott Carr wrote: Quoting David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Like I say I'm just toying with the idea so far. Scribus seems to be the better option than using OOo as it is a desktop publishing piece of software but I'm open to the idea doing both scribus and OOo format. Have you any ideas for content. Tutorials is section is a must interviews would be good or user experience section also what about ides for styling and look feel of the mag. Some feedback on these areas would be good just to gauge what others want of such a magazine. Interesting idea. I guess my first question would be, what kind of release cycle are you looking at? If you are thinking once a week, then gathering items about what has been happening in dev, and in the various projects, kind of like a Week in Review type thing would be good. If you are talking about once a month, then it would probably be better to have Summaries of OOo in the news and mabye a nutshell type version of what has happened behind the scenes in the project. Of course, no matter the release cycle, these items would still play a roll in the content. On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:37 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: David wrote: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. Nice idea, David. Why won't you use OOo for that? You could publish articles describing your experience making the magazine. Why not host such a format on doc.oo.o? We could also make articles available standalone in the wiki or on the web, for example. Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Like I say I'm just toying with the idea so far. Scribus seems to be the better option than using OOo as it is a desktop publishing piece of software but I'm open to the idea doing both scribus and OOo format. Have you any ideas for content. Tutorials is section is a must interviews would be good or user experience section also what about ides for styling and look feel of the mag. Some feedback on these areas would be good just to gauge what others want of such a magazine. On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:37 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: David wrote: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. Nice idea, David. Why won't you use OOo for that? You could publish articles describing your experience making the magazine. Why not host such a format on doc.oo.o? We could also make articles available standalone in the wiki or on the web, for example. Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Quoting David [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Like I say I'm just toying with the idea so far. Scribus seems to be the better option than using OOo as it is a desktop publishing piece of software but I'm open to the idea doing both scribus and OOo format. Have you any ideas for content. Tutorials is section is a must interviews would be good or user experience section also what about ides for styling and look feel of the mag. Some feedback on these areas would be good just to gauge what others want of such a magazine. Interesting idea. I guess my first question would be, what kind of release cycle are you looking at? If you are thinking once a week, then gathering items about what has been happening in dev, and in the various projects, kind of like a Week in Review type thing would be good. If you are talking about once a month, then it would probably be better to have Summaries of OOo in the news and mabye a nutshell type version of what has happened behind the scenes in the project. Of course, no matter the release cycle, these items would still play a roll in the content. On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:37 +0200, Frank Peters wrote: David wrote: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. Nice idea, David. Why won't you use OOo for that? You could publish articles describing your experience making the magazine. Why not host such a format on doc.oo.o? We could also make articles available standalone in the wiki or on the web, for example. Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Scott Carr OpenOffice.org Documentation Co-Lead This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [documentation-dev] Open Office magazine
Hi David, David schreef: I'm toying with the idea of creating a magazine in scribus for openoffice. Similar to http://www.fullcirclemagazine.org/ fullcircle magazine for Ubuntu. It won't be as good as the above mag as I'm only now learning scribus but, with time it will get better. Do you have any thoughts or ideas on this that might help. I would call it OpenOffice.org magazine. Using Open Office to refer to OpenOffice.org should be avoided because the rights to that name are owned by various third parties around the world. -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer. | nl.openoffice.org | www.opentaal.org | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
