Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1
Pretty sure this was discovered a while back. Neil Madsen fixed it for the next Installer release, IIRC. On 1/19/15, 2:10 PM, Mahmoud Ali mudd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen. The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses: Apache Flex SDK Apache Air SDK Adobe Flash Player playerglobal.swc Adobe Embedded Font Libraries and Utilities If I change the language, it doesn't matter which one, then all the licenses show up. I tried this with different languages (changing both the starting language and the chosen language) and it happened all the time. I'm running the installer version 3.1 on Windows 8.1. I picked Flex 4.14 RC1, Air 16 and Flash Player 16.
Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1
Let's use the DISCUSS thread for discussing stuff, please? EdB On Monday, January 19, 2015, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Hi, This is a Apache Flex 4.14.0 release candidate 1. For details on this release see the RELEASE_NOTES and the README. The release candidate can be found here; https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/ The binary distributions as a convenience for the respective platforms, available here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/binaries The most convenient way to use the binary package is to install it via the Installer. You can get the Installer here: http://flex.apache.org/installer.html Run the Installer, right click anywhere, select Show Dev Builds and choose Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1. Before voting please review the section, What are the ASF requirements on approving a release?, at: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release At a minimum you would be expected to check that: - MD5 and signed packages are correct - README, RELEASE_NOTES, NOTICE and LICENSE files are all fine - That you can compile from source package - That the SDK can be used in your IDE of choice - That the SDK can be used to make a mobile, desktop and browser application When testing please check the md5 and asc files and make sure that the source can be compiled. Please vote to approve this release: +1 Approve the release (PMC members: please add (binding) to your vote) -1 Veto the release (please provide specific comments to why) This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called. The vote passes if there is: - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC - More positive votes than negative votes If you find an issue with the release that's a show stopper please don't hold off voting -1. If someone votes -1 please continue testing we want to try and catch as many issues as we can and cut down on the number of release candidates. Remember existing voters can change their vote during the voting process. When voting please indicate what OS, IDE, Flash Player version and AIR version you tested the SDK with. Please put all discussion about this release in the DISCUSSION thread not this VOTE thread. For your convenience, I have added an Ant script to the RC folder. This ant script automates the checks a voter should perform on the RC. It will: - download the default source package for your OS (use -Dpackage.suffix to override) - run md5 and gpg checks (this assumes you have gpg installed in your path) - uncompress the source package - install and run rat - display the rat report and ask you to verify - display the rat report without the AL files and ask you to verify the non-AL files - display the README and ask you to verify - display the RELEASE_NOTES and ask you to verify - display the NOTICE and ask you to verify - display the LICENSE and ask you to verify - run the build and any tests run by the build. You should be able to go away for a while during the build. When it is finished, it will display information to be copied into the vote thread. You are not required to use this script, and more testing of the packages and build results are always encouraged. To use this script (assuming you have Ant installed), it should be as simple as: - Create an empty folder - Download ApproveSDK.xml into that folder from: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/ApproveSDK.xml - Run: ant -e -f ApproveSDK.xml -Drelease.version=4.14.0 -Drc=1 Thanks, EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1
Hi, Given this is a legal issue and effects a large portion of users - can we actually make a release in this state? Or do we have to release a fixed installer first? Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
Hi, The change was only made in one place when it should of been made in several places. The code is now possibly in an inconsistent state that may cause regression issues, so I think we keep that JIRA open until it's fixed. Personally I would of placed this fixed into develop not the release but that's up to Erik and the PMC to vote on teh RC accordingly. Thanks, Justin
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v9 or v10. For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Tom
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
+1 I have been very angry about it as well. I'm also very upset at Adobe CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development tremendously). They didn't consult the community of developers, businesses and startups who invested many years of hard work and money into the Flash Platform that depends on Adobe supporting Flash. I think RIM and Google were touting the Flash plugin was available for Android and Blackberry phones. That was the reason many people chose Android over iOS. When Adobe removed Flash for mobile they probably cost Google and RIM 100's millions. I've talked to ex Flash developers and they've said to move on but it's been ten years of learning and creating with Flash. That's not different than a doctor going to school for 8 years and then being told they're education and experience is no longer relevant and the only reason is because another type of doctor (a clown doctor) is more popular and really because one company (Apple) wants to make more money. What Adobe and Apple are trying to take away, in my opinion, is a canvas. The same as canvas is to a painter, the Flash Player is a canvas for creativity; for art, for sound, animation, video and written content. What's being taken fought over is a form and a channel for creative expression. Apple and Adobe are killing creativity and the means to send and receive it (to make a buck and be popular respectively). Anyway, I don't know if I would go about creating a new Flash Player but rather expose the truth and get plugins allowed on mobile then get Adobe back into the Flash platform. Irregardless, I support you Stephane! On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Stephane Beladaci adobeflexengin...@gmail.com wrote: @Carlos, I think we have to be careful with the open source term. I think the independent aspect is the key, as like I said earlier in the conversation the small piece of the Flash platform that is proprietary is the very reason why browser vendors have not be able to cripple Flash, have not been able to stop it from holding the web 10 years ahead of its time for 10 years straight, have not been able to refrain it from bringing the user experience of their desktop and mobile proprietary system. It is also why Jobs wanted it dead. On the other end of the spectrum, it is precisely because HTML5 is an open standard with implementation left to the browser that it has been a huge lie and a failure. Which takes us to @Erik, your point on the language is duly noted. You are right, this is not my forum. Regardless of the fact that I barely re-read and hardly edit my social media content by choice (I believe in authenticity and spontaneity, not diplomacy and even less political correctness), I should be more careful outside of my social media. You are also (see I was going to say d*6m) right I am angry! The concern should not be whether or not or why I am angry, but how can the large majority of the community not be? Where I come from, the people put an entire country on fire and kept their corporate world under control for less than what Silicon Valley alone has been inflicting to nearly every class of consumers, from general public, to developers, small businesses and enterprise. It was May 1968, not very long ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France. So yeah, I am angry, bitter, and not having any of it ever since the day Thoughts on Flash hit apple.com. I was on a contract at Adobe Consulting at the time, and was made aware almost in real time about what this was about. I have been consistent since 2010: Apple Steve Jobs' ban of Flash is the greatest and largest smear campaign, antitrust and corporate bullying scam in the entire history of Internet and the world wide web. It is the closest the modern civilized and democratic world got to Hitler burning books in the street of London with an entire nation applauding him for it. I have been called crazy, liar. and various species of animals for years. Some Adobe employees themselves challenged me on the antitrust nature of the corporate move, to the point I had to respond in social media with copy of correspondence with FTC and EU proving the ongoing international preliminary investigation of Apple for antitrust violations in regard to the ban of Flash and AIR. I have been told there is no monopoly so there cannot be antitrust (that comes from a tech press journalism). I wonder was 75% of digital entertainment market and 80% of mobile application market at the time of the ban should be called if not monopoly. The fact the market moved rapidly and changed the numbers does not change the fact that requiring developers who want to put an app on iPhone, which is the single point of entry to mobile market, have to 1/ buy a Mac and 2/ develop for Apple and Apple only, is not just antitrust but probably racketeering as well. I told Sheryl Sandberg
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
What we need is an independent Flash player. OK. You have made your case, and then some. Now, since this forum is dedicated to the development of Apache Flex, can you maybe come to the point and discuss development related issues? Thanks, EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: FYI, Apache Falcon is now a top-level project
Hi Alex, On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: ...Yep, and we have a library called Spark. I mentioned this in the June 2013 board report and no board member ever posted on our lists that we needed to do something about it I'm not saying you need to do anything, just wanted you guys to be aware of the potential confusion when speaking about those modules outside of the Flex context. With nearly 200 projects at Apache it's hard to avoid name clashes. Or maybe name your next module rtzesjdflkjqtzspx but that has other downsides ;-) -Bertrand
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml. 1) I've created folder 2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths: env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/ env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe 3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know whether I should do this or not.) # Flash player version for which player global swc to use playerglobal.version = 16.0 # AIR version number air.version = 14.0 I got this error: http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png In flex-config.xml we have this: external-library-path path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerMinorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element /external-library-path Where is setted playerglobalHome ? Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Release-Apache-Flex-4-14-0-tp43390p44399.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
This is a bug in the release convenience tool ApproveSDK.xml, not the SDK itself. If you set the mentioned path variables for the entire system instead of in a local .properties file, the warnings go away. EdB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:53 AM, piotrz piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com wrote: Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml. 1) I've created folder 2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths: env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/ env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe 3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know whether I should do this or not.) # Flash player version for which player global swc to use playerglobal.version = 16.0 # AIR version number air.version = 14.0 I got this error: http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png In flex-config.xml we have this: external-library-path path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerMinorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element /external-library-path Where is setted playerglobalHome ? Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Release-Apache-Flex-4-14-0-tp43390p44399.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
On 1/19/15, 3:40 AM, e...@ixsoftware.nl e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below. Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast your vote. I have completed my approval pass. I’m curious as to what Justin is claiming is a legal issue regarding the installer, so I’ll postpone actually casting a vote until then. The only things I noticed: 1) the README incorrectly lists saxon9 as apache-compatible. We got it right in the LICENSE and NOTICE but I didn’t realize saxon9 was also mentioned in our README. 2) The main build script is still prompting before the OSMF download. The README issue is troublesome, but at least we got it right in LICENSE and NOTICE. I think that’s good enough for me. -Alex
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software, One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour free time. All the community can do is to fix the bug and keep the framework (or whatever it is, but framework are like blossoms in spring in open source world). When it gets to the points that commercial software provides at no cost what that open source project is about, making it irrelevant, it just dies. The code usually lay there forever. And one day, someone who don't like one feature from it, will fork it and restart the cycle. I spend more time doing tech assessment on open source projects, and background tech check on their author, that I would building a team, crowd funding it, and owning whatever the product is. Do not get me wrong, tons of open source projects are just awesome. But when it takes to support innovation on the web for the next 10 to 20 years, sorry but I have been laughing at the mere idea ever since I wrote code. The new era starting to emerge is all about peer power, peer to peer, people. But it is not about non profit as we know it today. Charity is dying. So if the entire capitalistic corporate world on which this country was built from the ground up. Both ends of the spectrum are going to have to pick up and adopt paradigms and practices from the other. Non profit will run as commercial enterprise, making products, selling value. They will just not share the coins among themselves at the end of the year. Same for corporation, the ridiculous implementation of corporate social responsibility in business world today is an insult to the word social. Corp and Inc are confusing social as social marketing with civic as interacting as human being, We enter a very exciting era were corporations are obsoletes. Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg spent nearly 40 billion dollars to buy chichat apps you and I can builld with one hand in 3 weeks? Because tomorrow when social networking will be decentralized, people running their own private cloud, and networking peer to peer, whoever own the messaging will be the only social networking industry player to survive, Extend that to banks, healthcare, entertainment... Entrepreneur better make people feel like their elevator pitch is about them, not the 9 figure exit. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Héctor A neverbi...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago. 2015年1月19日月曜日、Tom Chivertont...@extravision.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@extravision.com');さんは書きました: I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v9 or v10. For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Tom
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
Try actually setting these things in the environment. set PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/ set AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ set FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe On 1/19/15, 10:53 PM, piotrz piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com wrote: Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml. 1) I've created folder 2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths: env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/playe r/ env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/ env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe 3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know whether I should do this or not.) # Flash player version for which player global swc to use playerglobal.version = 16.0 # AIR version number air.version = 14.0 I got this error: http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png In flex-config.xml we have this: external-library-path path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerM inorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element /external-library-path Where is setted playerglobalHome ? Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Release-Apach e-Flex-4-14-0-tp43390p44399.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
@Tom, I see your point and anticipate many others. We have the choice to be part of the problem or the solution. Let's say there is a show blocker, a piece of proprietary technology that we cannot engineer ourselves. I have two answer to that. First, I see a huge PR campaign to tell the world see, we the open source community could not do it, neither can you, now a round of applause for the innovation piece of technology and the company that RDed it. Second, I will find a way to have Adobe gibe it to us. I know too well how they go to the hardware acceleration of the MacBook themselves. Say thank you to the lawyers of the Federal Trade Commission. All it means is that the GNU misses the leadership to pull it off and make alliances, which is usually the pitfall of the nonprofit open source community and its allergy to corporations, without to mention the fear of IRS. I was blown away for instance that Apache could not provide tech support to enterprise. We lost an entire market over the lake of reliable support. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Tom Chiverton t...@extravision.com wrote: I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v9 or v10. For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Tom
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
@Jeffry, I do not think anyone in the company outside of the board had anything to do with killing the player on Android. It was making no sense for a good reason, there was no sense for it. I am making a case for the very credible possibility that the whole thing has been a conspiracy between Adobe and Apple based on coercion, with Hitler on one end, and a clueless CEO not capable to hold a 2 mn interview on the other. Now before to be once again an insult to the 5 years I spend getting to the bottom of this, before to call me crazy with my conspiracy theory, I invite whoever feels like it to do the same research. Go get, read, analysis and cross compare the thousands documents from those cases, and then come back tell me those two were not already conspiring based on coercion: High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation, case number 511-cv-02509 The Apple iPod iTunes Anti-Trust Litigation, case number 405-cv-00037 Hariharan v. Adobe Systems Inc., case number 511-cv-02509 Klein v. Cook et al, case number 5:14-cv-03634 Flash was getting pretty good on Android and started to make Apple look really bad. It was either Adobe kills it, and Apple makes AIR the rock-star of iOS, effectively putting a 30% on the free web and an end to the free enterprise, or else get exterminated. It destroyed the sales of CS4 with just 1 post on Apple.com. Even Eric Schdmoiy was scared of what this maniac and his overgrown corporation based on 3 products was capable of. Which brings us to... our shot at the court. I believe we, developers at large and Flash developers on the front line, have not just an antitrust case, but also possibly a course of action for racketeering. That is some serious leverage to get what we need from Adobe and Apple. What we need is an independent Flash player. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Stephane Beladaci adobeflexengin...@gmail.com wrote: Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software, One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour free time. All the community can do is to fix the bug and keep the framework (or whatever it is, but framework are like blossoms in spring in open source world). When it gets to the points that commercial software provides at no cost what that open source project is about, making it irrelevant, it just dies. The code usually lay there forever. And one day, someone who don't like one feature from it, will fork it and restart the cycle. I spend more time doing tech assessment on open source projects, and background tech check on their author, that I would building a team, crowd funding it, and owning whatever the product is. Do not get me wrong, tons of open source projects are just awesome. But when it takes to support innovation on the web for the next 10 to 20 years, sorry but I have been laughing at the mere idea ever since I wrote code. The new era starting to emerge is all about peer power, peer to peer, people. But it is not about non profit as we know it today. Charity is dying. So if the entire capitalistic corporate world on which this country was built from the ground up. Both ends of the spectrum are going to have to pick up and adopt paradigms and practices from the other. Non profit will run as commercial enterprise, making products, selling value. They will just not share the coins among themselves at the end of the year. Same for corporation, the ridiculous implementation of corporate social responsibility in business world today is an insult to the word social. Corp and Inc are confusing social as social marketing with civic as interacting as human being, We enter a very exciting era were corporations are obsoletes. Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg spent nearly 40 billion dollars to buy chichat apps you and I can builld with one hand in 3 weeks? Because tomorrow when social networking will be decentralized, people running their own private cloud, and networking peer to peer, whoever own the messaging will be the only social networking industry player to survive, Extend that to banks, healthcare, entertainment... Entrepreneur better make people feel like their elevator pitch is about them, not the 9 figure exit. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Héctor A neverbi...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago. 2015年1月19日月曜日、Tom Chivertont...@extravision.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@extravision.com');さんは書きました: I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with
Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1
I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen. The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses: Apache Flex SDK Apache Air SDK Adobe Flash Player playerglobal.swc Adobe Embedded Font Libraries and Utilities If I change the language, it doesn't matter which one, then all the licenses show up. I tried this with different languages (changing both the starting language and the chosen language) and it happened all the time. I'm running the installer version 3.1 on Windows 8.1. I picked Flex 4.14 RC1, Air 16 and Flash Player 16.
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
On 1/19/2015 3:45 AM, jude wrote: I'm also very upset at Adobe CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development tremendously) In fairness; I do not think Adobe Evangelists were involved in the decision in any way... [The Adobe Evangelism team is practically non-existent now--I heard it just has two people focused on promoting the creative cloud] -- Jeffry Houser Technical Entrepreneur http://www.jeffryhouser.com 203-379-0773
[4.14] # Apache Flex SDK 4.14 nightly build 74: Successful
flex-sdk_release-candidate - Build #74 - Successful Changes since last build: [erik] Update with note that FlatSpark requires embedded font support [erik] Last bit of version numbering update ;-) For more information, check the console output at http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-sdk_release-candidate/74/.
Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player
On 19/01/15 09:52, Héctor A wrote: I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago. Yes, that was my point :-) LightSpark doesn't look that active either. But good luck ! Tom
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below. Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast your vote. Thanks! EdB On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Java version mentioned in the README is getting a bit long in the tooth. The README still refers to 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 have been release and there's a prerelease of 1.9. What version of JAVA would be suggest people to use? On OSX compiling with Java 1.8 is significantly faster. All I see in the README is that you need Java SDK 1.6 or greater. No suggestion which one is preferred. I don't see the need to add such a suggestion, especially not since the performance of the Mustella tests on the VM seems to indicate no improvement in performance over version 1.6 of more recent versions, quite the contrary, actually. EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty
Definitely! Edb On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will support in terms of JS output. The original motivation was to get enough SVG support to do the graphics/skinning. Folks needing to run something on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers probably have Flash. If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions? -Alex -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
[FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty
I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will support in terms of JS output. The original motivation was to get enough SVG support to do the graphics/skinning. Folks needing to run something on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers probably have Flash. If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions? -Alex
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
Hi Erik, This issue is mentioned in release notes - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34657 Justin comments it that is not fixed, so it probably should be removed from the Release Notes. Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Release-Apache-Flex-4-14-0-tp43390p44388.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty
Actually, JSGoogEmitter.java still has code to emit that method, so, simply removing the override in FlexJS should get you started ;-) EdB On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote: Definitely! Edb On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will support in terms of JS output. The original motivation was to get enough SVG support to do the graphics/skinning. Folks needing to run something on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers probably have Flash. If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions? -Alex -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0
Justin most likely forgot to recompile the SDK he was using to review my commits. He abandoned the discussion thread without further comment when I mentioned that possibility, basically confirming that assumption. I triple checked the solution on a fresh SDK and re-affirmed the validity of the Mustella tests I wrote for it. I just forgot to close the issue again... I'm sure the Release Manager will agree with me no change to the docs is needed ;-) EdB On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:18 PM, piotrz piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Erik, This issue is mentioned in release notes - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34657 Justin comments it that is not fixed, so it probably should be removed from the Release Notes. Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Release-Apache-Flex-4-14-0-tp43390p44388.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl