Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
Pretty sure this was discovered a while back.  Neil Madsen fixed it for
the next Installer release, IIRC.

On 1/19/15, 2:10 PM, Mahmoud Ali mudd...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen.

The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses:
Apache Flex SDK
Apache Air SDK
Adobe Flash Player playerglobal.swc
Adobe Embedded Font Libraries and Utilities

If I change the language, it doesn't matter which one, then all the
licenses show up.
I tried this with different languages (changing both the starting language
and the chosen language) and it happened all the time.

I'm running the installer version 3.1 on Windows 8.1. I picked Flex 4.14
RC1, Air 16 and Flash Player 16.



Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Let's use the DISCUSS thread for discussing stuff, please?

EdB



On Monday, January 19, 2015, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:

 Hi,

 This is a  Apache Flex 4.14.0 release candidate 1. For details on this
 release see the RELEASE_NOTES and the README.


 The release candidate can be found here;

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/


 The binary distributions as a convenience for the respective
 platforms, available here:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/binaries


 The most convenient way to use the binary package is to install it via
 the Installer. You can get the Installer here:

 http://flex.apache.org/installer.html

 Run the Installer, right click anywhere, select Show Dev Builds and
 choose Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1.


 Before voting please review the section, What are the ASF
 requirements on approving a release?, at:

 http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release

 At a minimum you would be expected to check that:
 - MD5 and signed packages are correct
 - README, RELEASE_NOTES, NOTICE and LICENSE files are all fine
 - That you can compile from source package
 - That the SDK can be used in your IDE of choice
 - That the SDK can be used to make a mobile, desktop and browser
 application

 When testing please check the md5 and asc files and make sure that the
 source can be compiled.


 Please vote to approve this release:

 +1 Approve the release (PMC members: please add  (binding) to your vote)
 -1 Veto the release (please provide specific comments to why)

 This vote will be open for 72 hours or until a result can be called.

 The vote passes if there is:
 - At least 3 +1 votes from the PMC
 - More positive votes than negative votes

 If you find an issue with the release that's a show stopper please
 don't hold off voting -1. If someone votes -1 please continue testing
 we want to try and catch as many issues as we can and cut down on the
 number of release candidates. Remember existing voters can change
 their vote during the voting process.

 When voting please indicate what OS, IDE, Flash Player version and AIR
 version you tested the SDK with.

 Please put all discussion about this release in the DISCUSSION thread
 not this VOTE thread.


 For your convenience, I have added an Ant script to the RC folder.
 This ant script automates the checks a voter should perform on the RC.
 It will:

 - download the default source package for your OS (use
 -Dpackage.suffix to override)
 - run md5 and gpg checks (this assumes you have gpg installed in your path)
 - uncompress the source package
 - install and run rat
 - display the rat report and ask you to verify
 - display the rat report without the AL files and ask you to verify
 the non-AL files
 - display the README and ask you to verify
 - display the RELEASE_NOTES and ask you to verify
 - display the NOTICE and ask you to verify
 - display the LICENSE and ask you to verify
 - run the build and any tests run by the build.

 You should be able to go away for a while during the build.  When it
 is finished, it will display information to be copied into the vote
 thread. You are not required to use this script, and more testing of
 the packages and build results are always encouraged.

 To use this script (assuming you have Ant installed), it should be as
 simple as:
 - Create an empty folder
 - Download ApproveSDK.xml into that folder from:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flex/sdk/4.14.0/rc1/ApproveSDK.xml

 - Run: ant -e -f ApproveSDK.xml -Drelease.version=4.14.0 -Drc=1

 Thanks,

 EdB



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Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

Given this is a legal issue and effects a large portion of users - can we 
actually make a release in this state? Or do we have to release a fixed 
installer first?

Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

The change was only made in one place when it should of been made in several 
places. The code is now possibly in an inconsistent state that may cause 
regression issues, so I think we keep that JIRA open until it's fixed. 
Personally I would of placed this fixed into develop not the release but that's 
up to Erik and the PMC to vote on teh RC accordingly.

Thanks,
Justin



Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, 
and because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction 
layer to access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, 
never mind video DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with 
Flash Player v9 or v10.


For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now:
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

Tom


Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread jude
+1 I have been very angry about it as well. I'm also very upset at Adobe
CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of
developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development
tremendously). They didn't consult the community of developers, businesses
and startups who invested many years of hard work and money into the Flash
Platform that depends on Adobe supporting Flash. I think RIM and Google
were touting the Flash plugin was available for Android and Blackberry
phones. That was the reason many people chose Android over iOS. When Adobe
removed Flash for mobile they probably cost Google and RIM 100's millions.
I've talked to ex Flash developers and they've said to move on but it's
been ten years of learning and creating with Flash. That's not different
than a doctor going to school for 8 years and then being told they're
education and experience is no longer relevant and the only reason is
because another type of doctor (a clown doctor) is more popular and really
because one company (Apple) wants to make more money. What Adobe and Apple
are trying to take away, in my opinion, is a canvas. The same as canvas is
to a painter, the Flash Player is a canvas for creativity; for art, for
sound, animation, video and written content. What's being taken fought over
is a form and a channel for creative expression. Apple and Adobe are
killing creativity and the means to send and receive it (to make a buck and
be popular respectively).

Anyway, I don't know if I would go about creating a new Flash Player but
rather expose the truth and get plugins allowed on mobile then get Adobe
back into the Flash platform. Irregardless, I support you Stephane!


On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Stephane Beladaci 
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Carlos, I think we have to be careful with the open source term. I think
 the independent aspect is the key, as like I said earlier in the
 conversation the small piece of the Flash platform that is proprietary is
 the very reason why browser vendors have not be able to cripple Flash, have
 not been able to stop it from holding the web 10 years ahead of its time
 for 10 years straight, have not been able to refrain it from bringing the
 user experience of their desktop and mobile proprietary system. It is also
 why Jobs wanted it dead. On the other end of the spectrum, it is precisely
 because HTML5 is an open standard with implementation left to the browser
 that it has been a huge lie and a failure.

 Which takes us to @Erik, your point on the language is duly noted. You are
 right, this is not my forum. Regardless of the fact that I barely re-read
 and hardly edit my social media content by choice (I believe in
 authenticity and spontaneity, not diplomacy and even less political
 correctness), I should be more careful outside of my social media. You are
 also (see I was going to say d*6m) right I am angry! The concern should
 not be whether or not or why I am angry, but how can the large majority of
 the community not be? Where I come from, the people put an entire country
 on fire and kept their corporate world under control for less than what
 Silicon Valley alone has been inflicting to nearly every class of
 consumers, from general public, to developers, small businesses and
 enterprise. It was May 1968, not very long ago:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France. So yeah, I am
 angry, bitter, and not having any of it ever since the day Thoughts on
 Flash hit apple.com. I was on a contract at Adobe Consulting at the time,
 and was made aware almost in real time about what this was about.

 I have been consistent since 2010: Apple Steve Jobs' ban of Flash is the
 greatest and largest smear campaign, antitrust and corporate bullying scam
 in the entire history of Internet and the world wide web. It is the closest
 the modern civilized and democratic world got to Hitler burning books in
 the street of London with an entire nation applauding him for it. I have
 been called crazy, liar. and various species of animals for years. Some
 Adobe employees themselves challenged me on the antitrust nature of the
 corporate move, to the point I had to respond in social media with copy of
 correspondence with FTC and EU proving the ongoing international
 preliminary investigation of Apple for antitrust violations in regard to
 the ban of Flash and AIR. I have been told there is no monopoly so there
 cannot be antitrust (that comes from a tech press journalism). I wonder
 was 75% of digital entertainment market and 80% of mobile application
 market at the time of the ban should be called if not monopoly. The fact
 the market moved rapidly and changed the numbers does not change the fact
 that requiring developers who want to put an app on iPhone, which is the
 single point of entry to mobile market, have to 1/ buy a Mac and 2/ develop
 for Apple and Apple only, is not just antitrust but probably racketeering
 as well.

 I told Sheryl Sandberg 

Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
 What we need is an independent Flash player.

OK. You have made your case, and then some.

Now, since this forum is dedicated to the development of Apache Flex,
can you maybe come to the point and discuss development related
issues?

Thanks,

EdB



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Re: FYI, Apache Falcon is now a top-level project

2015-01-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Alex,

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
 ...Yep, and we have a library called Spark.  I mentioned this in the June
 2013 board report and no board member ever posted on our lists that we
 needed to do something about it

I'm not saying you need to do anything, just wanted you guys to be
aware of the potential confusion when speaking about those modules
outside of the Flex context.

With nearly 200 projects at Apache it's hard to avoid name clashes. Or
maybe name your next module rtzesjdflkjqtzspx but that has other
downsides ;-)

-Bertrand


Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread piotrz
Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml.

1) I've created folder
2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths:

env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/
env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/
env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe

3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know whether
I should do this or not.)

# Flash player version for which player global swc to use
playerglobal.version = 16.0

# AIR version number
air.version = 14.0

I got this error:
http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png

In flex-config.xml we have this:

external-library-path
 
path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerMinorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element
  /external-library-path

Where is setted playerglobalHome ? 

Piotr



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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
This is a bug in the release convenience tool ApproveSDK.xml, not
the SDK itself.

If you set the mentioned path variables for the entire system instead
of in a local .properties file, the warnings go away.

EdB



On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:53 AM, piotrz piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml.

 1) I've created folder
 2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths:

 env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/
 env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/
 env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe

 3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know whether
 I should do this or not.)

 # Flash player version for which player global swc to use
 playerglobal.version = 16.0

 # AIR version number
 air.version = 14.0

 I got this error:
 http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png

 In flex-config.xml we have this:

 external-library-path

 path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerMinorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element
   /external-library-path

 Where is setted playerglobalHome ?

 Piotr



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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui


On 1/19/15, 3:40 AM, e...@ixsoftware.nl e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:

I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below.

Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast
your vote.

I have completed my approval pass.  I’m curious as to what Justin is
claiming is a legal issue regarding the installer, so I’ll postpone
actually casting a vote until then.

The only things I noticed:

1) the README incorrectly lists saxon9 as apache-compatible.  We got it
right in the LICENSE and NOTICE but I didn’t realize saxon9 was also
mentioned in our README.
2) The main build script is still prompting before the OSMF download.

The README issue is troublesome, but at least we got it right in LICENSE
and NOTICE.  I think that’s good enough for me.

-Alex



Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software,
One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and
his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed
forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour
free time. All the community can do is to fix the bug and keep the
framework (or whatever it is, but framework are like blossoms in spring in
open source world). When it gets to the points that commercial software
provides at no cost what that open source project is about, making it
irrelevant, it just dies. The code usually lay there forever. And one day,
someone who don't like one feature from it, will fork it and restart the
cycle. I spend more time doing tech assessment on open source projects, and
background tech check on their author, that I would building  a team, crowd
funding it, and owning whatever the product is.

Do not get me wrong, tons of open source projects are just awesome. But
when it takes to support innovation on the web for the next 10 to 20 years,
sorry but I have been laughing at the mere idea ever since I wrote code.

The new era starting to emerge is all about peer power, peer to peer,
people. But it is not about non profit as we know it today. Charity is
dying. So if the entire capitalistic corporate world on which this country
was built from the ground up. Both ends of the spectrum are going to have
to pick up and adopt paradigms and practices from the other. Non profit
will run as commercial enterprise, making products, selling value. They
will just not share the coins among themselves at the end of the year. Same
for corporation, the ridiculous implementation of corporate social
responsibility in business world today is an insult to the word social.
Corp and Inc are confusing social as social marketing with civic as
interacting as human being, We enter a very exciting era were corporations
are obsoletes.

Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg spent nearly 40 billion dollars to buy
chichat apps you and I can builld with one hand in 3 weeks? Because
tomorrow when social networking will be decentralized, people running their
own private cloud, and networking peer to peer, whoever own the messaging
will be the only social networking industry player to survive, Extend that
to banks, healthcare, entertainment... Entrepreneur better make people feel
like their elevator pitch is about them, not the 9 figure exit.



On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Héctor A neverbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind
 Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago.

 2015年1月19日月曜日、Tom Chivertont...@extravision.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@extravision.com');さんは書きました:

  I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before,
 and
  because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer
 to
  access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind
 video
  DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v9 or
  v10.
 
  For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now:
  https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
 
  Tom
 



Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
Try actually setting these things in the environment.

set 
PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/player/
set AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/
set FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe



On 1/19/15, 10:53 PM, piotrz piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com wrote:

Build is failing when I am using ApproveSDK.xml.

1) I've created folder
2) I've created approvefalcon.properties which contains paths:

env.PLAYERGLOBAL_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/PlayerGlobal/playe
r/
env.AIR_HOME=h:/flexsdk/flex-repo/dependencies/AIRSDK/14.0/
env.FLASHPLAYER_DEBUGGER=h:/flexsdk/flashplayer.exe

3) I've changed in downloaded sdk in build.properties (I don't know
whether
I should do this or not.)

# Flash player version for which player global swc to use
playerglobal.version = 16.0

# AIR version number
air.version = 14.0

I got this error:
http://images.devs-on.net/Image/WWxPBooA1RNlz39Z-Obszar.png

In flex-config.xml we have this:

external-library-path
 
path-element{playerglobalHome}/{targetPlayerMajorVersion}.{targetPlayerM
inorVersion}/playerglobal.swc/path-element
  /external-library-path

Where is setted playerglobalHome ?

Piotr



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Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
@Tom, I see your point and anticipate many others. We have the choice to be
part of the problem or the solution. Let's say there is a show blocker, a
piece of proprietary technology that we cannot engineer ourselves. I have
two answer to that. First, I see a huge PR campaign to tell the world see,
we the open source community could not do it, neither can you, now a round
of applause for the innovation piece of technology and the company that
RDed it. Second, I will find a way to have Adobe gibe it to us. I know
too well how they go to the hardware acceleration of the MacBook
themselves. Say thank you to the lawyers of the Federal Trade Commission.

All it means is that the GNU misses the leadership to pull it off and make
alliances, which is usually the pitfall of the nonprofit open source
community and its allergy to corporations, without to mention the fear of
IRS. I was blown away for instance that Apache could not provide tech
support to enterprise. We lost an entire market over the lake of reliable
support.



On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Tom Chiverton t...@extravision.com wrote:

 I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before, and
 because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction layer to
 access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind video
 DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with Flash Player v9 or
 v10.

 For instance, it's been a top GNU project 'wish list' for years now:
 https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

 Tom



Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Stephane Beladaci
@Jeffry, I do not think anyone in the company outside of the board had
anything to do with killing the player on Android. It was making no sense
for a good reason, there was no sense for it. I am making a case for the
very credible possibility that the whole thing has been a conspiracy
between Adobe and Apple based on coercion, with Hitler on one end, and a
clueless CEO not capable to hold a 2 mn interview on the other. Now before
to be once again an insult to the 5 years I spend getting to the bottom of
this, before to call me crazy with my conspiracy theory, I invite whoever
feels like it to do the same research. Go get, read, analysis and cross
compare the thousands documents from those cases, and then come back tell
me those two were not already conspiring based on coercion:

High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation, case number 511-cv-02509
The Apple iPod iTunes Anti-Trust Litigation, case number 405-cv-00037
Hariharan v. Adobe Systems Inc., case number 511-cv-02509
Klein v. Cook et al, case number 5:14-cv-03634

Flash was getting pretty good on Android and started to make Apple look
really bad. It was either Adobe kills it, and Apple makes AIR the rock-star
of iOS, effectively putting a 30% on the free web and an end to the free
enterprise, or else get exterminated. It destroyed the sales of CS4 with
just 1 post on Apple.com. Even Eric Schdmoiy was scared of what this maniac
and his overgrown corporation based on 3 products was capable of.

Which brings us to... our shot at the court. I believe we, developers at
large and Flash developers on the front line, have not just an antitrust
case, but also possibly a course of action for racketeering. That is some
serious leverage to get what we need from Adobe and Apple.

What we need is an independent Flash player.


On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Stephane Beladaci 
adobeflexengin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hector, you just point to another major issue with open source software,
 One day down the road, in two weeks, two months or two years that guy and
 his buddies who started the project walk out.The project cannot be pushed
 forward by a distributed community and its contribution based on per hour
 free time. All the community can do is to fix the bug and keep the
 framework (or whatever it is, but framework are like blossoms in spring in
 open source world). When it gets to the points that commercial software
 provides at no cost what that open source project is about, making it
 irrelevant, it just dies. The code usually lay there forever. And one day,
 someone who don't like one feature from it, will fork it and restart the
 cycle. I spend more time doing tech assessment on open source projects, and
 background tech check on their author, that I would building  a team, crowd
 funding it, and owning whatever the product is.

 Do not get me wrong, tons of open source projects are just awesome. But
 when it takes to support innovation on the web for the next 10 to 20 years,
 sorry but I have been laughing at the mere idea ever since I wrote code.

 The new era starting to emerge is all about peer power, peer to peer,
 people. But it is not about non profit as we know it today. Charity is
 dying. So if the entire capitalistic corporate world on which this country
 was built from the ground up. Both ends of the spectrum are going to have
 to pick up and adopt paradigms and practices from the other. Non profit
 will run as commercial enterprise, making products, selling value. They
 will just not share the coins among themselves at the end of the year. Same
 for corporation, the ridiculous implementation of corporate social
 responsibility in business world today is an insult to the word social.
 Corp and Inc are confusing social as social marketing with civic as
 interacting as human being, We enter a very exciting era were corporations
 are obsoletes.

 Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg spent nearly 40 billion dollars to buy
 chichat apps you and I can builld with one hand in 3 weeks? Because
 tomorrow when social networking will be decentralized, people running their
 own private cloud, and networking peer to peer, whoever own the messaging
 will be the only social networking industry player to survive, Extend that
 to banks, healthcare, entertainment... Entrepreneur better make people feel
 like their elevator pitch is about them, not the 9 figure exit.



 On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Héctor A neverbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind
 Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago.

 2015年1月19日月曜日、Tom Chivertont...@extravision.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','t...@extravision.com');さんは書きました:

  I wish you well, but the idea has been tried a number of times before,
 and
  because it wasn't able to use the Adobe Flash hardware abstraction
 layer to
  access accelerated / battery optimised decode and display, never mind
 video
  DRM, they tended to top out around compatibility with 

Re: [VOTE] Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 RC1

2015-01-19 Thread Mahmoud Ali
I'm noticing a strange behavior when I go to the licenses screen.

The first time I enter this screen I only see these licenses:
Apache Flex SDK
Apache Air SDK
Adobe Flash Player playerglobal.swc
Adobe Embedded Font Libraries and Utilities

If I change the language, it doesn't matter which one, then all the
licenses show up.
I tried this with different languages (changing both the starting language
and the chosen language) and it happened all the time.

I'm running the installer version 3.1 on Windows 8.1. I picked Flex 4.14
RC1, Air 16 and Flash Player 16.


Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Jeffry Houser

On 1/19/2015 3:45 AM, jude wrote:

I'm also very upset at Adobe
CEO and the Adobe evangelists who made the decision for millions of
developers to remove Flash from Android (and slow Flash development
tremendously)


 In fairness; I do not think Adobe Evangelists were involved in the 
decision in any way...
 [The Adobe Evangelism team is practically non-existent now--I heard it 
just has two people focused on promoting the creative cloud]


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[4.14] # Apache Flex SDK 4.14 nightly build 74: Successful

2015-01-19 Thread flex . ci . builds
flex-sdk_release-candidate - Build #74 - Successful

Changes since last build:
[erik] Update with note that FlatSpark requires embedded font support

[erik] Last bit of version numbering update ;-)


For more information, check the console output at 
http://apacheflexbuild.cloudapp.net:8080/job/flex-sdk_release-candidate/74/.

Re: The Player, a case for an independent Flash Player

2015-01-19 Thread Tom Chiverton

On 19/01/15 09:52, Héctor A wrote:

I didn't mention Gnash because in some areas it seems to be behind
Lightspark and it seems development on it stopped years ago.

Yes, that was my point :-)
LightSpark doesn't look that active either.

But good luck !

Tom


Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
I have started the VOTE on 4.14 in the thread below.

Please take a little time to download and test the artifacts, and cast
your vote.

Thanks!

EdB



On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
 Java version mentioned in the README is getting a bit long in the tooth. The 
 README still refers to 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 have been release and there's a 
 prerelease of 1.9. What version of JAVA would be suggest people to use? On 
 OSX compiling with Java 1.8 is significantly faster.

 All I see in the README is that you need Java SDK 1.6 or greater. No
 suggestion which one is preferred.

 I don't see the need to add such a suggestion, especially not since
 the performance of the Mustella tests on the VM seems to indicate no
 improvement in performance over version 1.6 of more recent versions,
 quite the contrary, actually.

 EdB



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Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Definitely!

Edb



On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will
 support in terms of JS output.  The original motivation was to get enough
 SVG support to do the graphics/skinning.  Folks needing to run something
 on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers
 probably have Flash.

 If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using
 Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions?

 -Alex






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[FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Alex Harui
I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will
support in terms of JS output.  The original motivation was to get enough
SVG support to do the graphics/skinning.  Folks needing to run something
on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers
probably have Flash.

If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using
Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions?

-Alex






Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread piotrz
Hi Erik,

This issue is mentioned in release notes -
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34657

Justin comments it that is not fixed, so it probably should be removed from
the Release Notes.

Piotr



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Re: [FLEXJS] Object.defineProperty

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Actually, JSGoogEmitter.java still has code to emit that method, so,
simply removing the override in FlexJS should get you started ;-)

EdB



On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Erik de Bruin e...@ixsoftware.nl wrote:
 Definitely!

 Edb



 On Monday, January 19, 2015, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:

 I think we’ve agreed that IE9 is now the oldest browser that FlexJS will
 support in terms of JS output.  The original motivation was to get enough
 SVG support to do the graphics/skinning.  Folks needing to run something
 on older browsers can deploy the SWF version since those old browsers
 probably have Flash.

 If we’re going to make IE9 the baseline, should we start using
 Object.defineProperty instead of set_ and get_ functions?

 -Alex






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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Flex 4.14.0

2015-01-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
Justin most likely forgot to recompile the SDK he was using to review
my commits. He abandoned the discussion thread without further comment
when I mentioned that possibility, basically confirming that
assumption.

I triple checked the solution on a fresh SDK and re-affirmed the
validity of the Mustella tests I wrote for it. I just forgot to close
the issue again... I'm sure the Release Manager will agree with me no
change to the docs is needed ;-)

EdB


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 Hi Erik,

 This issue is mentioned in release notes -
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-34657

 Justin comments it that is not fixed, so it probably should be removed from
 the Release Notes.

 Piotr



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