Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-15 Thread Arnaud HERITIER


 Arnaud is the one with all the outstanding issues - he should comment
 if they can get bumped to the next version.
 All those unassigned look suitable for bumping.



I'm not working on it and I won't be able soon
I unassign all my issues. You can postpone issues you don't want to fix.
You can try to deploy a SNAPSHOT and ask feedback from users before
releasing it because our ITs doesn't validate many things (just that we
always generate the same files, but it doesn't validate that you can use
them in new/current eclipse versions).
This plugin is widely used and the major part of users didn't upgrade to
last releases because w have regressions in them. Thus if you want to have a
wide usage of this new version you should take care to regressions found in
2 previous releases.

cheers

Arnaud


Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-15 Thread Jason van Zyl
I'm not in any dire rush to release the plugin, so I'll defer to you. If I can 
release it I will, otherwise I'll wait.

On 2010-01-15, at 11:30 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

 
 
 Arnaud is the one with all the outstanding issues - he should comment
 if they can get bumped to the next version.
 All those unassigned look suitable for bumping.
 
 
 
 I'm not working on it and I won't be able soon
 I unassign all my issues. You can postpone issues you don't want to fix.
 You can try to deploy a SNAPSHOT and ask feedback from users before
 releasing it because our ITs doesn't validate many things (just that we
 always generate the same files, but it doesn't validate that you can use
 them in new/current eclipse versions).
 This plugin is widely used and the major part of users didn't upgrade to
 last releases because w have regressions in them. Thus if you want to have a
 wide usage of this new version you should take care to regressions found in
 2 previous releases.
 
 cheers
 
 Arnaud

Thanks,

Jason

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Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi,

There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if no 
one is going work on it then I'll just release it.

I specifically want to release the addition I've made to the 
maven-eclipse-plugin which will stop the confusion among users where they think 
stuff generated by maven-eclipse-plugin is supported in M2Eclipse.

There are projects like CXF that specifically tell users not to use M2Eclipse, 
which is fine, but I want support issues to fall back to those projects who 
want to support the maven-eclipse-plugin. More often then not they become the 
problem of the M2Eclipse developers. So this is really to partition the support 
where it belongs. It's a simple change, I just added a comment which we will 
detect in M2Eclipse and tell users what they are attempting are not supported.

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Daniel Kulp


Can we at least get a snapshot staged with your changes so I can double check 
that it doesn't break the CXF instructions?

Specifically, we tell people not to use m2eclipse as it generally takes a 
couple HOURS to import CXF into m2eclipse and then the normal edit/save/run 
unit test cycle in m2eclipse takes minutes, not seconds.With the normal 
maven-eclipse-plugin setup and such, it's all MUCH MUCH faster.If the 
m2eclipse experience could match, I'd have no problems recommending it.   But 
it's too painful right now.

Dan


On Thu January 14 2010 10:43:45 am Jason van Zyl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
  no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.
 
 I specifically want to release the addition I've made to the
  maven-eclipse-plugin which will stop the confusion among users where they
  think stuff generated by maven-eclipse-plugin is supported in M2Eclipse.
 
 There are projects like CXF that specifically tell users not to use
  M2Eclipse, which is fine, but I want support issues to fall back to those
  projects who want to support the maven-eclipse-plugin. More often then not
  they become the problem of the M2Eclipse developers. So this is really to
  partition the support where it belongs. It's a simple change, I just added
  a comment which we will detect in M2Eclipse and tell users what they are
  attempting are not supported.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jason
 
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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 2010-01-14, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

 
 
 Can we at least get a snapshot staged with your changes so I can double check 
 that it doesn't break the CXF instructions?

It's always staged. But my change in sum total is this:

commentNO_M2ECLIPSE_SUPPORT: Project files created with the 
maven-eclipse-plugin are not supported in M2Eclipse./comment

That's enough for us to do the detection we need.

 
 Specifically, we tell people not to use m2eclipse as it generally takes a 
 couple HOURS to import CXF into m2eclipse and then the normal edit/save/run 
 unit test cycle in m2eclipse takes minutes, not seconds.With the normal 
 maven-eclipse-plugin setup and such, it's all MUCH MUCH faster.If the 
 m2eclipse experience could match, I'd have no problems recommending it.   But 
 it's too painful right now.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu January 14 2010 10:43:45 am Jason van Zyl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
 no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.
 
 I specifically want to release the addition I've made to the
 maven-eclipse-plugin which will stop the confusion among users where they
 think stuff generated by maven-eclipse-plugin is supported in M2Eclipse.
 
 There are projects like CXF that specifically tell users not to use
 M2Eclipse, which is fine, but I want support issues to fall back to those
 projects who want to support the maven-eclipse-plugin. More often then not
 they become the problem of the M2Eclipse developers. So this is really to
 partition the support where it belongs. It's a simple change, I just added
 a comment which we will detect in M2Eclipse and tell users what they are
 attempting are not supported.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jason
 
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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread nicolas de loof
Same issue on my project using m2eclipse = 0.9.8

0.9.9 introduce many improvements that makes m2eclipse compliant with large
multi-modules projets

Nicolas

2010/1/14 Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org



 Can we at least get a snapshot staged with your changes so I can double
 check
 that it doesn't break the CXF instructions?

 Specifically, we tell people not to use m2eclipse as it generally takes a
 couple HOURS to import CXF into m2eclipse and then the normal edit/save/run
 unit test cycle in m2eclipse takes minutes, not seconds.With the normal
 maven-eclipse-plugin setup and such, it's all MUCH MUCH faster.If the
 m2eclipse experience could match, I'd have no problems recommending it.
 But
 it's too painful right now.

 Dan


 On Thu January 14 2010 10:43:45 am Jason van Zyl wrote:
  Hi,
 
  There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
   no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.
 
  I specifically want to release the addition I've made to the
   maven-eclipse-plugin which will stop the confusion among users where
 they
   think stuff generated by maven-eclipse-plugin is supported in M2Eclipse.
 
  There are projects like CXF that specifically tell users not to use
   M2Eclipse, which is fine, but I want support issues to fall back to
 those
   projects who want to support the maven-eclipse-plugin. More often then
 not
   they become the problem of the M2Eclipse developers. So this is really
 to
   partition the support where it belongs. It's a simple change, I just
 added
   a comment which we will detect in M2Eclipse and tell users what they are
   attempting are not supported.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason
 
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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2010-01-14, at 11:09 AM, nicolas de loof wrote:

 Same issue on my project using m2eclipse = 0.9.8
 
 0.9.9 introduce many improvements that makes m2eclipse compliant with large 
 multi-modules projets
 

Folks can do whatever they want for their projects. I just want to stop the 
confusion. Use one method or the other and then users understand clearly where 
to go for support.

 Nicolas
 
 2010/1/14 Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org
 
 
 Can we at least get a snapshot staged with your changes so I can double check
 that it doesn't break the CXF instructions?
 
 Specifically, we tell people not to use m2eclipse as it generally takes a
 couple HOURS to import CXF into m2eclipse and then the normal edit/save/run
 unit test cycle in m2eclipse takes minutes, not seconds.With the normal
 maven-eclipse-plugin setup and such, it's all MUCH MUCH faster.If the
 m2eclipse experience could match, I'd have no problems recommending it.   But
 it's too painful right now.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu January 14 2010 10:43:45 am Jason van Zyl wrote:
  Hi,
 
  There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
   no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.
 
  I specifically want to release the addition I've made to the
   maven-eclipse-plugin which will stop the confusion among users where they
   think stuff generated by maven-eclipse-plugin is supported in M2Eclipse.
 
  There are projects like CXF that specifically tell users not to use
   M2Eclipse, which is fine, but I want support issues to fall back to those
   projects who want to support the maven-eclipse-plugin. More often then not
   they become the problem of the M2Eclipse developers. So this is really to
   partition the support where it belongs. It's a simple change, I just added
   a comment which we will detect in M2Eclipse and tell users what they are
   attempting are not supported.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jason
 
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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:
 commentNO_M2ECLIPSE_SUPPORT: Project files created with the 
 maven-eclipse-plugin are not supported in M2Eclipse./comment

 That's enough for us to do the detection we need.

Are you saying that M2Eclipse will search for this comment and provide
a warning as well?

Can we also update the front page to indicate the M2Eclipse is no
longer supported (and duplicate that in the FAQ) please?

Arnaud is the one with all the outstanding issues - he should comment
if they can get bumped to the next version.
All those unassigned look suitable for bumping.

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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 2010-01-14, at 6:41 PM, Barrie Treloar wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:
 commentNO_M2ECLIPSE_SUPPORT: Project files created with the 
 maven-eclipse-plugin are not supported in M2Eclipse./comment
 
 That's enough for us to do the detection we need.
 
 Are you saying that M2Eclipse will search for this comment and provide
 a warning as well?
 

Yes, we'll tell the user we're not importing the project and why. Provide a 
pointer back to the maven-eclipse-plugin and where to get help.

 Can we also update the front page to indicate the M2Eclipse is no
 longer supported (and duplicate that in the FAQ) please?
 

Sure you can.

 Arnaud is the one with all the outstanding issues - he should comment
 if they can get bumped to the next version.
 All those unassigned look suitable for bumping.
 
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Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Peter Lynch
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:

 Hi,

 There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
 no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.


I have been trying to resolve issues using Maven 3 to build the plugin. I
provided a patch for MECLIPSE-631, no one has applied it and I don't have
karma. It would be nice if someone could apply that one at least before you
release. Issue MECLIPSE-633 is the other one, which seems like it will take
more time to sort out due to MNG-4523.

-Peter


Re: Releasing maven-eclipse-plugin

2010-01-14 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Peter Lynch pe...@peterlynch.ca wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote:

 Hi,

 There are some issues left in the 2.8 for the maven-eclipse-plugin but if
 no one is going work on it then I'll just release it.


 I have been trying to resolve issues using Maven 3 to build the plugin. I
 provided a patch for MECLIPSE-631, no one has applied it and I don't have
 karma. It would be nice if someone could apply that one at least before you
 release. Issue MECLIPSE-633 is the other one, which seems like it will take
 more time to sort out due to MNG-4523.

Can these wait for the next release cycle?

I dont believe there is anyone actively watching new issues for the plugin.
Your best bet is to ping the dev list with your issue and gather
support for the bug and find someone willing to commit your patches.

I have only been watching the list for Maven 3 and am not actively
involved so I haven't attempted to use it to build m-e-p.
I may have a few spare cycles shortly - is setting up my environment
simple enough and documented somewhere?

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