Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-25 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama

Hi,

Goran Rakic wrote:

You can remove sr-CS and sh-YU from a list. I don't know how those two
showed up, but we are using sr for Serbian Cyrillic translation and sh
for Serbian Latin.


I am afraid, but I cannot remove them until we understand the reasons
why languages such as sr-CS and sh-YU have been *already* included in
the source files of OOo 3.0.

Each of them exists once in the file 
OOO300_m7/desktop/source/deployment/registry/help/localize.sdf
sr-CS: desktop source\deployment\registry\help\dp_help.src 0   string  
RID_STR_HELP0   sr-CS   Помоћ   
 2002-02-02 02:0
sh-YU: desktop source\deployment\registry\help\dp_help.src 0   string  
RID_STR_HELP0   sh-YU   Pomoć   
   2002-02-02 02:02:02

The table lists 108 languages, but your comment might suggest some
languages should be excluded from the amount of languages.



Also, there is some error regards helpcontent translation statistics, as
we don't have any for Serbian, but your stats are showing 82%
translated.


Entries are already included in the source code of OOo 3.0 regardless of
the status of translation.

For the language sr
 1. http://download.openoffice.org/680/?intcmp=1235
 2. Download l10n source package.
 3. Expand it.
tar -jxf OOo_3.0.0rc2_src_l10n.tar.bz2
 4. Look for the entries of the language.
find OOO300_m7/ -name localize.sdf | xargs perl -a '-F\t' -ne 'print if $F[9] eq 
sr' | less

  It seems that entries for UI looks translated while entries for Help looks
  in English.

 5. Count up entries.
find OOO300_m7/ -name localize.sdf | grep -v helpcontent2 | xargs perl -a '-F\t' -ne 
'print if $F[9] eq sr' | wc -l
find OOO300_m7/helpcontent2/ -name localize.sdf | xargs perl -a '-F\t' -ne 'print if 
$F[9] eq sr' | wc -l

  UI:   27793 entries
  Help: 43125 entries

Is there any practical way to simply remove entries from localize.sdf
or try not to include them in localize.sdf when the entries have not
been translated yet?

rw gets 82% of Help, in reality, some translated, some not yet.
sh gets 82% of Help, in reality, seems not yet translated.
sl gets 90% of Help, in reality, almost translated.
vi sets 85% of Help, in reality, almost translated.

It seems the coverages of Help ranging from 80% to 90% are somewhat suspicious.

Regards,
Tora


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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama

Hi,

The translation coverage of OOo 3.0.0 is now summarized in the wiki
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.0#Coverage

Regards,
Tora


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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Tora,


The translation coverage of OOo 3.0.0 is now summarized in the wiki
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.0#Coverage


thanks a lot!

Florian

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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

tora - Takamichi Akiyama schrieb:

Hi,

The translation coverage of OOo 3.0.0 is now summarized in the wiki
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.0#Coverage


hmm .. this looks a little strange to me.

You count 37,551 strings for UI translation. Looking at pootle, we got  
only  26,832 strings for UI translation.

HC2 differs even more ~91,000 vs. ~45,000 in pootle.

this makes your statistics looking worse than the actual status is. E.g. 
you report German UI translation at 74% - looking at pootle we have 98% 
(where the missing 2% are for testool. Actually we have theses strings 
somewhere but they got lost on their way to pootle).


André

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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread Erdal Ronahi
 Is it easy to obtain such statistics from the Pootle?

Quite easy:

http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/index.html

for the overview and

http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/openoffice_org/ and
http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/helpcontent2/

for more detailed statistics. Note that Pootle counts words rather
than strings in the overview, the sentence/string count is on the
detailed pages. Replace de with the respective language code for the
other languages.

Regards,
Erdal

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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread tora - Takamichi Akiyama

Hi,

Erdal Ronahi wrote:
 Is it easy to obtain such statistics from the Pootle?
 http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/index.html

Thanks a lot!

The Pootle seems to cover 31 languages instead of 108 ones.
http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/

Anyway, it says German has been almost completely translated.
Therefore, unused entries in localize.sdf should be excluded when
we try to calculate the translation coverage from localize.sdf.


The translation coverage of OOo 3.0 [1] now has been revised based
on the following assumptions:

 * http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/openoffice_org/
   says UI in German has been almost translated.

 * http://pootle.sunvirtuallab.com/de/helpcontent2/
   says Help in German has been completely translated.

 * Similar information on Turkish. Italy, and Polish

[1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_3.0#Coverage

Now, German has translation coverage of round-up-ed 100% UI and 100% Help.

Regards,
Tora


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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-24 Thread Goran Rakic
У чет, 25. 09 2008. у 13:30 +0900, tora - Takamichi Akiyama пише:

 Now, German has translation coverage of round-up-ed 100% UI and 100% Help.
 
 Regards,
 Tora
 

You can remove sr-CS and sh-YU from a list. I don't know how those two
showed up, but we are using sr for Serbian Cyrillic translation and sh
for Serbian Latin.

Also, there is some error regards helpcontent translation statistics, as
we don't have any for Serbian, but your stats are showing 82%
translated.

Regards,
Goran Rakic
Serbian OpenOffice.org
L10N project lead



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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-18 Thread Jeongkyu Kim
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Florian Effenberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 does anyone has the current number of supported languages for our 3.0 PR? We
 currently have 80 there, but I guess the number is a little bit higher,
 slightly over 90?


I thought the number is 76 from the following post.

http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/875

Jeongkyu
-- 
Jeongkyu Kim
OpenOffice.org Korean community lead

Community website http://openoffice.or.kr
Personal blog http://openoffice.or.kr/gomme

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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-18 Thread Badral Sanligiin
Hi all,
+ Mongolian.

Badral

Am Freitag, den 19.09.2008, 03:14 +0900 schrieb Jeongkyu Kim:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Florian Effenberger
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  does anyone has the current number of supported languages for our 3.0 PR? We
  currently have 80 there, but I guess the number is a little bit higher,
  slightly over 90?
 
 
 I thought the number is 76 from the following post.
 
 http://www.solidoffice.com/archives/875
 
 Jeongkyu


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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-18 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

I'm pretty sure we were about 90, but I can't confirm it at the moment...

Florian

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Re: [native-lang] current number of supported languages

2008-09-18 Thread Charles-H. Schulz


I'd second that, but then, we have various languages at various stages  
of completion. I'll say around 100 just for the number, and I can't be  
that wrong...


Best,

Charles.
Le 18 sept. 08 à 21:04, Florian Effenberger a écrit :



Hi,

I'm pretty sure we were about 90, but I can't confirm it at the  
moment...


Florian

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