Google's Season of Docs now accepting organization applications

2019-04-02 Thread Antonio

Hi all,

Google's "Season of Docs" is now accepting organization applications.

"Season of Docs was created to bring together technical writers and open 
source projects to foster collaboration and improve documentation in the 
open source space."


More info in blog post [1] and specific site[2].

I was wondering if we could benefit of this somehow? From the "Project 
Ideas" [3] page:


"Refactor the open source project's existing documentation to provide an 
improved user experience or a more accessible information architecture."


Cheers,
Antonio

[1]
https://opensource.googleblog.com/2019/04/season-of-docs-org-apps.html

[2]
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/

[3]
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas

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Re: Groovy support

2019-04-02 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi,

seems different problems, some are just test failures some are
implementation bound.

@Toni if you need help getting started let me know.

-Sven

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:43 PM Sven Reimers  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> just checking the test status at the moment.
>
> Seems there are a couple of test failures with regards to CC, e.g.running
>
> ant -Dtest.type=unit -Dcontinue.after.failing.tests=true
>
> -Dtest.includes=org/netbeans/modules/groovy/editor/api/completion/**/*Test.java
> test-single
>
> results in 9 test failures
>
> I think those worked when I last checked the tests for NetBeans 10..
>
> Will try to figure out what is going on...
>
> Sven
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:39 PM Anton Epple  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I'm in contact with Sven now. He'll get me up to date. Possibly
>> the CC Tests are already fixed.
>>
>> Am 02.04.19, 18:38 schrieb "Geertjan Wielenga"
>> :
>>
>> Sven is the last who worked on this area, would really be great to
>> have
>> progress there.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:29 PM Anton Epple 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I might be able to do some work on NB Groovy Support for a
>> customer. They
>> > have issues with code completion, false error marks, and GroovyDoc
>> in
>> > general.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I checked, and most of the code completion tests are failing. I
>> > investigated a bit and it seems in Groovy 2.5.2 there are some
>> changes in
>> > behavior, for example many classes are not resolved in AST
>> ClassNodes
>> > automatically. As a result you only get the completions for
>> > java.lang.Object in most cases.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It would be great if anyone who has recently worked on the Groovy
>> support
>> > could help me with some info on the current state, and which work is
>> > planned, so we can coordinate in case somebody works on it (or I
>> can at
>> > least get some hints).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Toni
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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* Java Champion
* Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org
* JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee
* Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018

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Re: Groovy support

2019-04-02 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all,

just checking the test status at the moment.

Seems there are a couple of test failures with regards to CC, e.g.running

ant -Dtest.type=unit -Dcontinue.after.failing.tests=true

-Dtest.includes=org/netbeans/modules/groovy/editor/api/completion/**/*Test.java
test-single

results in 9 test failures

I think those worked when I last checked the tests for NetBeans 10..

Will try to figure out what is going on...

Sven




On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:39 PM Anton Epple  wrote:

> Thanks, I'm in contact with Sven now. He'll get me up to date. Possibly
> the CC Tests are already fixed.
>
> Am 02.04.19, 18:38 schrieb "Geertjan Wielenga"
> :
>
> Sven is the last who worked on this area, would really be great to have
> progress there.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:29 PM Anton Epple 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I might be able to do some work on NB Groovy Support for a customer.
> They
> > have issues with code completion, false error marks, and GroovyDoc in
> > general.
> >
> >
> >
> > I checked, and most of the code completion tests are failing. I
> > investigated a bit and it seems in Groovy 2.5.2 there are some
> changes in
> > behavior, for example many classes are not resolved in AST ClassNodes
> > automatically. As a result you only get the completions for
> > java.lang.Object in most cases.
> >
> >
> >
> > It would be great if anyone who has recently worked on the Groovy
> support
> > could help me with some info on the current state, and which work is
> > planned, so we can coordinate in case somebody works on it (or I can
> at
> > least get some hints).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Toni
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Antonio

Hi all,

What about changing:

"RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked 
with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open 
development and increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; "


To

"RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked 
to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache 
NetBeans Project subject to the Bylaws of the Foundation; "?


I'm somewhat concerned about asking our future Vicepresident to "serve 
... subject to ... the Bylaws of the Foundation" and not to ask the PMC 
to do the same.


That looks unfair to me! :-D

Cheers,
Antonio



El 2/4/19 a las 16:54, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió:

Hi,

the resolution looks mostly good to me, thanks!

With one paragraph to remove:

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

...RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further...


We don't ask for bylaws anymore, projects are welcome to create
community guidelines but that's not a requirement, they can also just
lean on the standard ASF guidelines.

-Bertrand

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Re: ? about development

2019-04-02 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Brad,

Am Freitag, den 29.03.2019, 13:43 -0600 schrieb Brad Walker:
> I'm interested in helping w/ development. So I was thinking that I could
> fix some of the "low-hanging" issues that would be easy for me to complete.
> This would also help me with learning the process.
> 
> There are several places in the code where the following Java code exists.
> Class clz = Class.forName(cslLanguageClass, true, myClassLoader);
> Object o = clz.newInstance();
> 
> This causes the following error when compiling.
> 
>[repeat]
> /home/bwalker/src/netbeans-10.0-test/ide/csl.api/anttask/src/org/netbeans/modules/csl/CslJar.java:274:
> warning: [deprecation] newInstance() in Class has been deprecated
>[repeat]   Object o = clz.newInstance();
> 

I think this is a worthwhile effort. Everybody will benefit from a
better signal-to-noise ration in compiler warnings.

Before going through the whole code-base, a prototype with one or two
modules would be good. As you've seen by the reply from Tim there can
be immediate feedback.

I would appreciate it.

Greetings

Matthias


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Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think we’re broad enough as it is. The NetBeans umbrella is broad and
everything we do is a derivative or an extension of some kind of NetBeans
API.

Gh

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 20:40, Jan Lahoda  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 8:03 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jan Lahoda  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Overall, looks OK to me. Two comments/questions:
> > > -would it make sense the make the charter a little bit more general (to
> > > include things like netbeans-jackpot/standalone (Java) hints) either:
> > > "providing a development environment" => "providing developer tools"
> > > or, if that is too general:
> > > "providing a development environment" => "providing development
> > environment
> > > and related tools"
> > > ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I think 'development environment, tooling platform, and application
> > framework' is broad enough to cover netbeans-jackpot and anything else we
> > do, and there's also the phrase 'projects within the scope of
> > responsibility of the Apache NetBeans Project', i.e., we could see what
> we
> > do quite broadly. E.g., jackpot is an extension or ancillary project to
> the
> > development environment as well as the tooling platform, the same is true
> > for html4j/DukeScript technologies etc.
> >
> > But if you strongly disagree, we can discuss further. Personally, I think
> > we're pretty broad as it is already and if we make it even broader, and
> > 'and related tools' is kind of assumed, I believe, anyway, it could
> become
> > too vague. It's hard enough as it is to explain what exactly NetBeans is,
> > let's not make it even harder. :-)
> >
>
> OK, I am not insisting on this much, just trying to ensure that we have
> something broad enough to cover our activities.
>
> I was considering HTML4J, but that fits under the "application framework",
> no?
>
> Jan
>
> Just my 2c.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > > The section on "bylaws":
> > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked
> > with
> > > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
> > and
> > > increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it
> further
> > >
> > > Should probably be removed (I think it has been removed from recent
> > > resolutions on other projects).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Apache NetBeans community members:
> > > >
> > > > Since we have already voted and agreed on becoming a top level Apache
> > > > project[1], worked through the maturity model[2], cleaned up our
> > > roster[3],
> > > > notified the Apache Incubator that we have the intention to
> > graduate[4],
> > > > voted on a PMC chair[5], and followed our mentors' advice that the
> very
> > > > next thing to do is to start this discussion thread on the draft
> > > > resolution[6], I hereby would like to start a discussion on the draft
> > > > resolution for Apache NetBeans to graduate from the Apache Incubator
> to
> > > > become an Apache top level project.
> > > >
> > > > Please see the resolution below and provide comments, corrections,
> > > > suggestions, and feedback. Be careful to note, again, especially
> before
> > > > commenting on this, that we have spent a lot of time cleaning up our
> > > > roster[3] and hence the length of the roster is simply a reflection
> of
> > > the
> > > > size and scope of the project. The content of the roster originates
> > from
> > > > the list of initial committers[7], together with several contributors
> > > voted
> > > > to be committers and PPMC members by the PPMC during incubation.
> > > >
> > > > Again, this is *NOT* a vote thread because of our mentors having
> > pointed
> > > > out that we have already voted and that another vote is not needed
> and
> > > that
> > > > simply a discussion thread is the next step[6].
> > > >
> > > > The discussion is open for 72 hours. Then the same discussion will
> > begin
> > > on
> > > > general@incubator for graduation, followed by a [VOTE] on graduation
> > > > there,
> > > > that includes the resolution.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to reach out with any questions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > 1.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72e59c722580fef2cbaa637735691a549756aeaa72c4cbf52265fbe0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > 2.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> > > >
> > > > 3.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster
> > > >
> > > > 4.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1287b8c8aeb639c8648bd59129bf244c01f3c29c79889a7c8f2b4f0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > 5.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e4

Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 8:03 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jan Lahoda  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Overall, looks OK to me. Two comments/questions:
> > -would it make sense the make the charter a little bit more general (to
> > include things like netbeans-jackpot/standalone (Java) hints) either:
> > "providing a development environment" => "providing developer tools"
> > or, if that is too general:
> > "providing a development environment" => "providing development
> environment
> > and related tools"
> > ?
> >
> >
>
> I think 'development environment, tooling platform, and application
> framework' is broad enough to cover netbeans-jackpot and anything else we
> do, and there's also the phrase 'projects within the scope of
> responsibility of the Apache NetBeans Project', i.e., we could see what we
> do quite broadly. E.g., jackpot is an extension or ancillary project to the
> development environment as well as the tooling platform, the same is true
> for html4j/DukeScript technologies etc.
>
> But if you strongly disagree, we can discuss further. Personally, I think
> we're pretty broad as it is already and if we make it even broader, and
> 'and related tools' is kind of assumed, I believe, anyway, it could become
> too vague. It's hard enough as it is to explain what exactly NetBeans is,
> let's not make it even harder. :-)
>

OK, I am not insisting on this much, just trying to ensure that we have
something broad enough to cover our activities.

I was considering HTML4J, but that fits under the "application framework",
no?

Jan

Just my 2c.
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> > The section on "bylaws":
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked
> with
> > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
> and
> > increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further
> >
> > Should probably be removed (I think it has been removed from recent
> > resolutions on other projects).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Apache NetBeans community members:
> > >
> > > Since we have already voted and agreed on becoming a top level Apache
> > > project[1], worked through the maturity model[2], cleaned up our
> > roster[3],
> > > notified the Apache Incubator that we have the intention to
> graduate[4],
> > > voted on a PMC chair[5], and followed our mentors' advice that the very
> > > next thing to do is to start this discussion thread on the draft
> > > resolution[6], I hereby would like to start a discussion on the draft
> > > resolution for Apache NetBeans to graduate from the Apache Incubator to
> > > become an Apache top level project.
> > >
> > > Please see the resolution below and provide comments, corrections,
> > > suggestions, and feedback. Be careful to note, again, especially before
> > > commenting on this, that we have spent a lot of time cleaning up our
> > > roster[3] and hence the length of the roster is simply a reflection of
> > the
> > > size and scope of the project. The content of the roster originates
> from
> > > the list of initial committers[7], together with several contributors
> > voted
> > > to be committers and PPMC members by the PPMC during incubation.
> > >
> > > Again, this is *NOT* a vote thread because of our mentors having
> pointed
> > > out that we have already voted and that another vote is not needed and
> > that
> > > simply a discussion thread is the next step[6].
> > >
> > > The discussion is open for 72 hours. Then the same discussion will
> begin
> > on
> > > general@incubator for graduation, followed by a [VOTE] on graduation
> > > there,
> > > that includes the resolution.
> > >
> > > Please feel free to reach out with any questions.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72e59c722580fef2cbaa637735691a549756aeaa72c4cbf52265fbe0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > 2.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> > >
> > > 3.
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster
> > >
> > > 4.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1287b8c8aeb639c8648bd59129bf244c01f3c29c79889a7c8f2b4f0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > 5.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > 6.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e49a123f879c31abad142461c976b2b3446b6c1376ad7baaa1c64220@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > 7. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > Establish the Apache NetBeans Project
> > >
> > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> > the
> > > Foundation and consistent with the Foundation

Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jan Lahoda  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Overall, looks OK to me. Two comments/questions:
> -would it make sense the make the charter a little bit more general (to
> include things like netbeans-jackpot/standalone (Java) hints) either:
> "providing a development environment" => "providing developer tools"
> or, if that is too general:
> "providing a development environment" => "providing development environment
> and related tools"
> ?
>
>

I think 'development environment, tooling platform, and application
framework' is broad enough to cover netbeans-jackpot and anything else we
do, and there's also the phrase 'projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache NetBeans Project', i.e., we could see what we
do quite broadly. E.g., jackpot is an extension or ancillary project to the
development environment as well as the tooling platform, the same is true
for html4j/DukeScript technologies etc.

But if you strongly disagree, we can discuss further. Personally, I think
we're pretty broad as it is already and if we make it even broader, and
'and related tools' is kind of assumed, I believe, anyway, it could become
too vague. It's hard enough as it is to explain what exactly NetBeans is,
let's not make it even harder. :-)

Just my 2c.

Gj



> The section on "bylaws":
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
> increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further
>
> Should probably be removed (I think it has been removed from recent
> resolutions on other projects).
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > Dear Apache NetBeans community members:
> >
> > Since we have already voted and agreed on becoming a top level Apache
> > project[1], worked through the maturity model[2], cleaned up our
> roster[3],
> > notified the Apache Incubator that we have the intention to graduate[4],
> > voted on a PMC chair[5], and followed our mentors' advice that the very
> > next thing to do is to start this discussion thread on the draft
> > resolution[6], I hereby would like to start a discussion on the draft
> > resolution for Apache NetBeans to graduate from the Apache Incubator to
> > become an Apache top level project.
> >
> > Please see the resolution below and provide comments, corrections,
> > suggestions, and feedback. Be careful to note, again, especially before
> > commenting on this, that we have spent a lot of time cleaning up our
> > roster[3] and hence the length of the roster is simply a reflection of
> the
> > size and scope of the project. The content of the roster originates from
> > the list of initial committers[7], together with several contributors
> voted
> > to be committers and PPMC members by the PPMC during incubation.
> >
> > Again, this is *NOT* a vote thread because of our mentors having pointed
> > out that we have already voted and that another vote is not needed and
> that
> > simply a discussion thread is the next step[6].
> >
> > The discussion is open for 72 hours. Then the same discussion will begin
> on
> > general@incubator for graduation, followed by a [VOTE] on graduation
> > there,
> > that includes the resolution.
> >
> > Please feel free to reach out with any questions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > 1.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72e59c722580fef2cbaa637735691a549756aeaa72c4cbf52265fbe0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >
> > 2.
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> >
> > 3.
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster
> >
> > 4.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1287b8c8aeb639c8648bd59129bf244c01f3c29c79889a7c8f2b4f0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > 5.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >
> > 6.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e49a123f879c31abad142461c976b2b3446b6c1376ad7baaa1c64220@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >
> > 7. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
> >
> > -
> >
> > Establish the Apache NetBeans Project
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> the
> > Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
> > Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> related
> > to providing a development environment, tooling platform, and application
> > framework.
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> (PMC),
> > to be known as the "Apache NetBeans Project", be and hereby is
> established
> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache

Re: Groovy support

2019-04-02 Thread Anton Epple
Thanks, I'm in contact with Sven now. He'll get me up to date. Possibly the CC 
Tests are already fixed. 

Am 02.04.19, 18:38 schrieb "Geertjan Wielenga" 
:

Sven is the last who worked on this area, would really be great to have
progress there.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:29 PM Anton Epple  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I might be able to do some work on NB Groovy Support for a customer. They
> have issues with code completion, false error marks, and GroovyDoc in
> general.
>
>
>
> I checked, and most of the code completion tests are failing. I
> investigated a bit and it seems in Groovy 2.5.2 there are some changes in
> behavior, for example many classes are not resolved in AST ClassNodes
> automatically. As a result you only get the completions for
> java.lang.Object in most cases.
>
>
>
> It would be great if anyone who has recently worked on the Groovy support
> could help me with some info on the current state, and which work is
> planned, so we can coordinate in case somebody works on it (or I can at
> least get some hints).
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Toni
>
>




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Re: Groovy support

2019-04-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sven is the last who worked on this area, would really be great to have
progress there.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:29 PM Anton Epple  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I might be able to do some work on NB Groovy Support for a customer. They
> have issues with code completion, false error marks, and GroovyDoc in
> general.
>
>
>
> I checked, and most of the code completion tests are failing. I
> investigated a bit and it seems in Groovy 2.5.2 there are some changes in
> behavior, for example many classes are not resolved in AST ClassNodes
> automatically. As a result you only get the completions for
> java.lang.Object in most cases.
>
>
>
> It would be great if anyone who has recently worked on the Groovy support
> could help me with some info on the current state, and which work is
> planned, so we can coordinate in case somebody works on it (or I can at
> least get some hints).
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Toni
>
>


Groovy support

2019-04-02 Thread Anton Epple
Hi,

 

I might be able to do some work on NB Groovy Support for a customer. They have 
issues with code completion, false error marks, and GroovyDoc in general. 

 

I checked, and most of the code completion tests are failing. I investigated a 
bit and it seems in Groovy 2.5.2 there are some changes in behavior, for 
example many classes are not resolved in AST ClassNodes automatically. As a 
result you only get the completions for java.lang.Object in most cases. 

 

It would be great if anyone who has recently worked on the Groovy support could 
help me with some info on the current state, and which work is planned, so we 
can coordinate in case somebody works on it (or I can at least get some hints).

 

Thanks

 

Toni



Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Jan Lahoda
Hi,

Overall, looks OK to me. Two comments/questions:
-would it make sense the make the charter a little bit more general (to
include things like netbeans-jackpot/standalone (Java) hints) either:
"providing a development environment" => "providing developer tools"
or, if that is too general:
"providing a development environment" => "providing development environment
and related tools"
?

The section on "bylaws":
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked with
the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further

Should probably be removed (I think it has been removed from recent
resolutions on other projects).

Thanks,
Jan



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Dear Apache NetBeans community members:
>
> Since we have already voted and agreed on becoming a top level Apache
> project[1], worked through the maturity model[2], cleaned up our roster[3],
> notified the Apache Incubator that we have the intention to graduate[4],
> voted on a PMC chair[5], and followed our mentors' advice that the very
> next thing to do is to start this discussion thread on the draft
> resolution[6], I hereby would like to start a discussion on the draft
> resolution for Apache NetBeans to graduate from the Apache Incubator to
> become an Apache top level project.
>
> Please see the resolution below and provide comments, corrections,
> suggestions, and feedback. Be careful to note, again, especially before
> commenting on this, that we have spent a lot of time cleaning up our
> roster[3] and hence the length of the roster is simply a reflection of the
> size and scope of the project. The content of the roster originates from
> the list of initial committers[7], together with several contributors voted
> to be committers and PPMC members by the PPMC during incubation.
>
> Again, this is *NOT* a vote thread because of our mentors having pointed
> out that we have already voted and that another vote is not needed and that
> simply a discussion thread is the next step[6].
>
> The discussion is open for 72 hours. Then the same discussion will begin on
> general@incubator for graduation, followed by a [VOTE] on graduation
> there,
> that includes the resolution.
>
> Please feel free to reach out with any questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> 1.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72e59c722580fef2cbaa637735691a549756aeaa72c4cbf52265fbe0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> 2.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
>
> 3.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster
>
> 4.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1287b8c8aeb639c8648bd59129bf244c01f3c29c79889a7c8f2b4f0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> 5.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> 6.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e49a123f879c31abad142461c976b2b3446b6c1376ad7baaa1c64220@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> 7. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>
> -
>
> Establish the Apache NetBeans Project
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the
> Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
> to providing a development environment, tooling platform, and application
> framework.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
> to be known as the "Apache NetBeans Project", be and hereby is established
> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache NetBeans Project be and hereby is responsible for
> the creation and maintenance of software related to providing a development
> environment, tooling platform, and application framework; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache NetBeans" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
> of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache NetBeans Project, and
> to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache NetBeans Project:
>
> * Anton Epple 
> * Antonio Vieiro 
> * Aristides Villarreal 
> * Arunava Sinha 
> * Ate Douma 
> * Attila Kelemen 
> * Bertrand Delacretaz 
> * Bruno Flávio 
> * Bruno Souza 
> * Christian Lenz 
> * Constantin Drabo 
> * David Heffelfinger 
> * Daniel Gruno 
> * Dusan Balek 
> * Eirik Bakke 
> * Emilian Bold 
> * Emmanuel Hugonnet 
> * Eric Barboni 
> * Flo

Re: [DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

the resolution looks mostly good to me, thanks!

With one paragraph to remove:

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:59 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
> ...RESOLVED, that the initial Apache NetBeans PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and
> increased participation in the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further...

We don't ask for bylaws anymore, projects are welcome to create
community guidelines but that's not a requirement, they can also just
lean on the standard ASF guidelines.

-Bertrand

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Re: Which mentors want to continue on the Apache NetBeans roster?

2019-04-02 Thread Ate Douma




On 02/04/2019 10.55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi mentors,

In:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster

You can see that Bertrand Delacratez, Ate Douma, and Daniel Gruno have
indicated in one way or another that they would like to continue to be on
the Apache NetBeans roster.

That's great. Please confirm that in this thread (can't find exactly where
I got that info from, would be good to have this single thread wherein
mentors confirm their continuation with the project).


Reconfirmed: I'm willing to stay on the PMC.

Ate



That leaves Mark Struberg, would be great to have you too of course, can
you confirm/deny interest in continuing, in this thread?

Thanks,

Gj



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[DISCUSS] Resolution for Apache NetBeans graduation to TLP

2019-04-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Dear Apache NetBeans community members:

Since we have already voted and agreed on becoming a top level Apache
project[1], worked through the maturity model[2], cleaned up our roster[3],
notified the Apache Incubator that we have the intention to graduate[4],
voted on a PMC chair[5], and followed our mentors' advice that the very
next thing to do is to start this discussion thread on the draft
resolution[6], I hereby would like to start a discussion on the draft
resolution for Apache NetBeans to graduate from the Apache Incubator to
become an Apache top level project.

Please see the resolution below and provide comments, corrections,
suggestions, and feedback. Be careful to note, again, especially before
commenting on this, that we have spent a lot of time cleaning up our
roster[3] and hence the length of the roster is simply a reflection of the
size and scope of the project. The content of the roster originates from
the list of initial committers[7], together with several contributors voted
to be committers and PPMC members by the PPMC during incubation.

Again, this is *NOT* a vote thread because of our mentors having pointed
out that we have already voted and that another vote is not needed and that
simply a discussion thread is the next step[6].

The discussion is open for 72 hours. Then the same discussion will begin on
general@incubator for graduation, followed by a [VOTE] on graduation there,
that includes the resolution.

Please feel free to reach out with any questions.

Thanks,

Gj

1.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/72e59c722580fef2cbaa637735691a549756aeaa72c4cbf52265fbe0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

2.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans

3. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster

4.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d1287b8c8aeb639c8648bd59129bf244c01f3c29c79889a7c8f2b4f0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

5.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

6.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e49a123f879c31abad142461c976b2b3446b6c1376ad7baaa1c64220@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

7. https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal

-

Establish the Apache NetBeans Project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the
Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a
Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related
to providing a development environment, tooling platform, and application
framework.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC),
to be known as the "Apache NetBeans Project", be and hereby is established
pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache NetBeans Project be and hereby is responsible for
the creation and maintenance of software related to providing a development
environment, tooling platform, and application framework; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache NetBeans" be and
hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction
of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache NetBeans Project, and
to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the
scope of responsibility of the Apache NetBeans Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache NetBeans Project:

* Anton Epple 
* Antonio Vieiro 
* Aristides Villarreal 
* Arunava Sinha 
* Ate Douma 
* Attila Kelemen 
* Bertrand Delacretaz 
* Bruno Flávio 
* Bruno Souza 
* Christian Lenz 
* Constantin Drabo 
* David Heffelfinger 
* Daniel Gruno 
* Dusan Balek 
* Eirik Bakke 
* Emilian Bold 
* Emmanuel Hugonnet 
* Eric Barboni 
* Florian Vogler 
* Geertjan Wielenga 
* Glenn Holmer 
* Ivar Grimstad 
* James Gosling 
* Jan Lahoda 
* Jan Pirek 
* Jaroslav Tulach 
* Jean-Marc Borer 
* Jiří Kovalský 
* Joerg Michelberger 
* Johan Vos 
* John Kostaras 
* John McDonnell 
* Josh Juneau 
* José Pereda 
* Junichi Yamamoto 
* Kirk Pepperdine 
* Lars Bruun-Hansen 
* Laszlo Kishalmi 
* Leonardo Zanivan 
* Mark Stephens 
* Mark Struberg 
* Martin Entlicher 
* Martin Klähn 
* Matthias Bläsing 
* Michael Müller 
* Michael Nascimento 
* Michel Graciano 
* Milos Kleint 
* Neil C Smith 
* Ralph Benjamin Ruijs 
* Reema Taneja 
* Shai Almog 
* Simon Phipps 
* Svatopluk Dedic 
* Sven Reimers 
* Thilina Ranathunga 
* Timon Veenstra 
* Tomas Mysik 
* Tomas Zezula 
* Tushar Joshi 
* Vladimir Voskresensky 
* Wade Chandler 
* Zoran Sevarac 

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Geertjan Wielenga be appointed
to the office of Vice President, Apache NetBeans, to serve in accordance
with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and

Re: Which mentors want to continue on the Apache NetBeans roster?

2019-04-02 Thread Daniel Gruno

On 02/04/2019 03.55, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi mentors,

In:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster

You can see that Bertrand Delacratez, Ate Douma, and Daniel Gruno have
indicated in one way or another that they would like to continue to be on
the Apache NetBeans roster.

That's great. Please confirm that in this thread (can't find exactly where
I got that info from, would be good to have this single thread wherein
mentors confirm their continuation with the project).


Confirmed, I would like to continue on the PMC :)



That leaves Mark Struberg, would be great to have you too of course, can
you confirm/deny interest in continuing, in this thread?

Thanks,

Gj




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Re: Which mentors want to continue on the Apache NetBeans roster?

2019-04-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
> ...You can see that Bertrand Delacratez, Ate Douma, and Daniel Gruno have
> indicated in one way or another that they would like to continue to be on
> the Apache NetBeans roster...

Confirmed, I'm fine with remaining on the PMC to help with community
related topics if desired.

I'm not planning to get more involved at the code level.

-Bertrand

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Which mentors want to continue on the Apache NetBeans roster?

2019-04-02 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi mentors,

In:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Realistic+PMC+Roster

You can see that Bertrand Delacratez, Ate Douma, and Daniel Gruno have
indicated in one way or another that they would like to continue to be on
the Apache NetBeans roster.

That's great. Please confirm that in this thread (can't find exactly where
I got that info from, would be good to have this single thread wherein
mentors confirm their continuation with the project).

That leaves Mark Struberg, would be great to have you too of course, can
you confirm/deny interest in continuing, in this thread?

Thanks,

Gj