date:20100402


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Rishi Solanki commented on OFBIZ-3633:
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With reference to BJ comment;
- The calculation done is considering that company want a Product to sell for 
minimum amount say $100.00 for a particular product P1 which has following 
prices -
Special Promo - $5.00
Default Price - $10.00
List Price - $10.00
- Now the calculation result in this case 100/5 => 20 products, which is 
exactly pressing the $100.00 constraints.

> Minimum order quantity
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3633
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Reporter: Rishi Solanki
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3633.patch, OFBIZ-3633.patch
>
>
> It will work as follows;
> We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
> ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order 
> quantity of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
> Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
> have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
> $100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.
> To achieve the above ;
> write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
> itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
> the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
> then minimum.

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Rishi Solanki edited comment on OFBIZ-3633 at 4/3/10 5:22 AM:
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With reference to user list discussion here are our (Deepak and mine) thoughts;
- We have posted the both solution on the list and elected to go with price 
constraints due to following reasons;
1) Here we do not need to change the existing entity definition, which is not a 
big deal if we add minimumOrderQuantiy field to Product entity.
2) If we want to add minimum order quantity for any product then we set the 
price which is of special type 'MINIMUM_ORDER_QUANTITY'.
3) In case of adding the field in product entity we need to check whether it 
will reflect on every UI of product related screens, in the current patch the 
Product Price screen already have support to add a special type of price.
4) For the ProductStore thing i.e the ProductStore may want different minimum 
order quantity for different stores, this will handle in the same way it will 
handle for adding product entity field. Here I mean to say that; it is not 
available for Product specific configuration as well ProductPrice specific 
configuration in either case we need to work on that.
- Finally we will accept the community decision, and upload the patch in a way 
which will be finalize by community.

  was (Author: rishisolankii):
With reference to user list discussion here are our (Deepak and mine) 
thoughts;
- We have posted the both solution on the list and elected to go with price 
constraints due to following reasons;
1) Here we do not need to change the existing entity definition, which is not a 
big deal if we add minimumOrderQuantiy field to Product entity.
2) If we want to add minimum order quantity for any product then we set the 
price which is of special type 'MINIMUM_ORDER_QUANTITY'.
3) In case of adding the field in product entity we need to check whether it 
will reflect on every UI of product related screens, in the current patch the 
Product Price screen already have support to add a special type of price.
4) For the ProductStore thing i.e the ProductStore may want different minimum 
order quantity for different stores, this will handle in the same way it will 
handle for adding product entity field. Here I mean to say that; it is not 
available for Product specific configuration as well ProductPrice specific 
configuration in either case we need to work on that.
Finally we will accept the community decision, and upload the patch in a way 
which will be finalize by community.
  
> Minimum order quantity
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3633
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Reporter: Rishi Solanki
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3633.patch, OFBIZ-3633.patch
>
>
> It will work as follows;
> We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
> ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order 
> quantity of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
> Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
> have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
> $100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.
> To achieve the above ;
> write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
> itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
> the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
> then minimum.

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Rishi Solanki commented on OFBIZ-3633:
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With reference to user list discussion here are our (Deepak and mine) thoughts;
- We have posted the both solution on the list and elected to go with price 
constraints due to following reasons;
1) Here we do not need to change the existing entity definition, which is not a 
big deal if we add minimumOrderQuantiy field to Product entity.
2) If we want to add minimum order quantity for any product then we set the 
price which is of special type 'MINIMUM_ORDER_QUANTITY'.
3) In case of adding the field in product entity we need to check whether it 
will reflect on every UI of product related screens, in the current patch the 
Product Price screen already have support to add a special type of price.
4) For the ProductStore thing i.e the ProductStore may want different minimum 
order quantity for different stores, this will handle in the same way it will 
handle for adding product entity field. Here I mean to say that; it is not 
available for Product specific configuration as well ProductPrice specific 
configuration in either case we need to work on that.
Finally we will accept the community decision, and upload the patch in a way 
which will be finalize by community.

> Minimum order quantity
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3633
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Reporter: Rishi Solanki
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3633.patch, OFBIZ-3633.patch
>
>
> It will work as follows;
> We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
> ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order 
> quantity of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
> Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
> have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
> $100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.
> To achieve the above ;
> write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
> itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
> the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
> then minimum.

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Planning to update "createQuoteFromCart" service

2010-04-02 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya

I am planning to update the code written in the service 
"createQuoteFromCart" - QuoteServices.xml line #693.
Right now the code present inside this service creates quote only for 
Sales Order cart & I would like to change this code so that it would 
work for Purchase Orders as well.


As per my understanding you can also create Quotation from Purchase 
Order cart when you create order on backend screens.

There can be two cases that I can think of:

1) Suppose I started purchasing some item from my Supplier(Purchase 
Order entry in Backend) and in between I decided to get quotation first 
from that Supplier, at the same time I can create other quote from the 
quote screen to get multiple quotation from different Suppliers.


2) From the generated requirement I started creating Purchase order and 
in the mid of Purchase Order process I decided to get quotation from 
multiple supplier. So I would prefer to create quotation from Purchase 
Order.


The code present inside orderShortcuts.ftl file only enables link for 
quotation when you are creating Sales Order.

   <#if shoppingCart.getOrderType() == "SALES_ORDER">
   class="buttontext">${uiLabelMap.OrderOrderQuotes}
   href="<@ofbizUrl>createQuoteFromCart?destroyCart=Y" 
class="buttontext">${uiLabelMap.OrderCreateQuoteFromCart}
   href="<@ofbizUrl>createCustRequestFromCart?destroyCart=Y" 
class="buttontext">${uiLabelMap.OrderCreateCustRequestFromCart}

   

I have also seen that Manual Quote entry for "Product" & 
"Product_Purchase" works fine and later on you can create "Sales Order" 
& "Purchase Order" respectively for the approved quotation.


Please let me know if any technical details are present for sticking 
Quotation with *ONLY* Sales Order cart.

Thanks!

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Regards
Ashish Vijaywargiya
HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
USA | Italy | New Zealand | India



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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3633) Minimum order quantity

2010-04-02 Thread Deepak Dixit (JIRA)


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Deepak Dixit updated OFBIZ-3633:


Attachment: OFBIZ-3633.patch

No changes , Only remove test variable declaration. { List test = new 
LinkedList();}

> Minimum order quantity
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3633
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Reporter: Rishi Solanki
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3633.patch, OFBIZ-3633.patch
>
>
> It will work as follows;
> We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
> ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order 
> quantity of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
> Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
> have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
> $100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.
> To achieve the above ;
> write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
> itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
> the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
> then minimum.

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[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database

2010-04-02 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)


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Adrian Crum closed OFBIZ-3582.
--

Resolution: Fixed

I found the problem and updated the Wiki page. The multi-tenancy works with the 
corrected instructions.


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Reopened: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database


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Adam Heath reopened OFBIZ-3582:
---


As I have commented, this is a bug in the wiki page, one that is valid.  
reopening.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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Adam Heath commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

the wiki page listed earlier does *not*  mention the fact that the base 
delegator has to have references loaded for each sub tenant database.  I am 
aware of this requirement, because I did a basic read of the code as it was 
committed, and I took an educated guess based on how I would implement this 
feature, and the errors I see.

David, the wiki page needs to be enhanced.  You created this feature; as such, 
you have different assumptions then others do.  If you follow *just* what is in 
that wiki page, it will not work.  As you've said, this is because the seed 
data for the base delegator doesn't  contain a reference to the tenants.  
However, the page mentions nothing about how to create those tenant records.


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.jav

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Shi Yusen

Hahahaha

Oh, I almost forgot this is a dev list.


在 2010-04-02五的 14:53 -0400，Ruth Hoffman写道：
> Hi Scott:
> Thanks that has been my understanding.
> 
> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a 
> for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under 
> the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this 
> conference. There is a HUGE difference between an organization taking in 
> more money than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" 
> endeavor.
> 
> I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Scott Gray wrote:
> > Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in 
> > the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into 
> > the foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in running 
> > the foundation.
> >
> > Regards
> > Scott
> >
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Hi David:
> >> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a 
> >> "for profit" tax status?
> >>
> >> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of 
> >> the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF 
> >> and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure 
> >> where it is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
> >> organization, I'd like to know.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ruth
> >>
> >> David E Jones wrote:
> >> 
> >>> It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
> >>>
> >>> ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
> >>> foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon 
> >>> and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
> >>> foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that 
> >>> also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but 
> >>> that's the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.
> >>>
> >>> Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events 
> >>> have been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even 
> >>> in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz 
> >>> contributors, much of which was supposed to go into promoting the 
> >>> conference but the PR consulting company messed up that year (which 
> >>> caused them to be replaced), and so even then most of the people 
> >>> attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.
> >>>
> >>> Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
> >>> developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users 
> >>> were people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended 
> >>> to check out what was going on.
> >>>
> >>> We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>   
>  Hi Ean:
>  Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
> 
>  ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the 
>  immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.
> 
>  IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting 
>  smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or 
>  rather, our potential end-users. This should be the place where we 
>  showcase our wares and not "vacation with a purpose".
> 
>  Just my 2 cents.
>  Regards,
>  Ruth
> 
>  Ean Schuessler wrote:
> 
>  
> > I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. 
> > I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is 
> > helping fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange 
> > rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to 
> > do that or we may come to some agreement about how we would share those 
> > expenses for speakers with something especially important to contribute.
> >
> > Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
> > flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the 
> > accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. 
> > There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can 
> > think of it as a collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.
> >
> > David E Jones wrote:
> >  
> >   
> >> I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to 
> >> me I should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role 
> >> in organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm 
> >> not committing to anything on behalf of the pr

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database


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Adam Heath commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

there are multiple databases now in ofbiz.  the base database, and one or more 
tenant databases.  to access a tenant database, the data loaded into the base 
database has to have a reference to the tenant database.  the initial seed data 
loaded into the base database has no tenant records, whatsoever.  when you 
specify the delegator=default#DEMO1, this doesn't do anything to the base 
delegator.  since you only installed the seed data in the base delegator, when 
you specify the #DEMO1 delegator, it can't find the correct tenant record.

This is not a bug.

The command you are trying to run will populate the tenant database, but it 
will do nothing to add a reference in the base.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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2010-04-02 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)


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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-3582:


David,

There is no need for you to comment. We will work out the problem on our own.

I see part of the problem: BJ is using the command

java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
-delegator=default#DEMO1

and the Wiki page says to use

java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed 
-delegator=default#DEMO1

but even that command generates the error

2010-04-02 20:08:18,390 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR] 
 exception report --
Error creating delegator
Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
[DEMO1]
 stack trace ---
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
[default#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)


2010-04-02 20:08:18,390 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR] 
 exception report --
Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
Message: java.lang.Class
 stack trace ---
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)


So, I tried executing each line on the Wiki page in sequence, in case there was 
an issue with skipping a command. The fourth command

java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed 
-delegator=default#DEMO1

generated this error

2010-04-02 20:15:56,750 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR] 
 exception report --
Error creating delegator
Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
[DEMO1]
 stack trace ---
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
[default#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)


2010-04-02 20:15:56,750 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR] 
 exception report --
Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
Message: java.lang.Class
 stack trace ---
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(D

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

I do see one difference I did not catch till now


the link instructions say
java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed 
-delegator=default
java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install -readers=seed 
-delegator=default#DEMO1

where the instruction in the TenantDemoData.xml
says 
java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
-delegator=default#DEMO1

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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BJ Freeman edited comment on OFBIZ-3582 at 4/3/10 2:49 AM:
---

my understanding is when you do a -install it includes both seed and demo data.
based on that 
what are you talking about?
since the demo is loaded on -install the tenant demo data should be loaded. for 
some reason it is not, or more what I think is there are other issues.

btw I have only tried to clear the air on what has been said. I am sorry if 
that was taken in any form than to solve the problem.

However this Jira should stay open till it is fixed.

  was (Author: bjfreeman):
my understanding is when you do a -install it includes both seed and demo 
data.
based on that 
what are you talking about?
since the demo is loaded on -install the tenant demo data should be loaded. for 
some reason it is not.

btw I have only tried to clear the air on what has been said. I am sorry if 
that was taken in any form than to solve the problem.

However this Jira should stay open till it is fixed.
  
> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.ba

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

my understanding is when you do a -install it includes both seed and demo data.
based on that 
what are you talking about?
since the demo is loaded on -install the tenant demo data should be loaded. for 
some reason it is not.

btw I have only tried to clear the air on what has been said. I am sorry if 
that was taken in any form than to solve the problem.

However this Jira should stay open till it is fixed.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database

2010-04-02 Thread David E. Jones (JIRA)


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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

Seriously, what's the big deal? If you load the demo data this record will be 
there. If you don't load the demo data (for example you just load the seed 
data) then it won't be there. How you want to use it is totally up to you, ie 
if you want to use the demo data or if you want to setup your own Tenant 
records.

Is this really that tough?

You guys have experience with OFBiz and should know the difference between seed 
and demo data, and that demo Tenant records should only go in the demo data. 
Isn't that what you would expect?

Or, am I totally off base and you are expecting something totally different?

I've already sent some basic information about the tenant stuff, and I'm not 
going to be goaded or pressured or attacked into doing more. Sorry.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
>

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Multitenancy+support
is the begining


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database

2010-04-02 Thread Adrian Crum (JIRA)


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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-3582:


I get the same error. Maybe what is needed is an explanation of the correct 
steps necessary to initialize a tenant database. In other words, some basic 
documentation on how to use the multi-tenant capability would be helpful.



> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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BJ Freeman edited comment on OFBIZ-3582 at 4/3/10 12:26 AM:


I clean-all
I did the defualt install which I assume loads the DEMO1Id
I did the DEMO1 install and it could not find the ID
Now I agree with yoiu that if it is not in the table it won't be found.
so what happened in the Default install that the data did not get loaded, or 
was not accessible when the code looked it up?

Jacques says he can not repoduce it.
 the log I included says I did.
so if we don't have the time or can't come up with a consnesus as to why it 
happened and all can reporduce it,
instead of closing it is should be put in some long term status and we find out 
why I can and Jacques can't.


  was (Author: bjfreeman):
I clean-all
I did the defualt install which I assume loads the DEMO1Id
I did the DEMO1 install and it could not find the ID
Now I agree with yoiu that if it is not in the table it won't be found.
so what happened in the Default install that the data did not get loaded.

Jacques says he can not repoduce it.
 the log I included says I did.
so if we don't have the time or can't come up with a consnesus as to why it 
happened and all can reporduce it,
instead of closing it is should be put in some long term status and we find out 
why I can and Jacques can't.

  
> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

I clean-all
I did the defualt install which I assume loads the DEMO1Id
I did the DEMO1 install and it could not find the ID
Now I agree with yoiu that if it is not in the table it won't be found.
so what happened in the Default install that the data did not get loaded.

Jacques says he can not repoduce it.
 the log I included says I did.
so if we don't have the time or can't come up with a consnesus as to why it 
happened and all can reporduce it,
instead of closing it is should be put in some long term status and we find out 
why I can and Jacques can't.


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database


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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

David:
this is an install.
if the record is missing it has todo with the install process.
that is all I am saying as far as your comment.

your statement 
So, to reproduce just make sure there is no record in the database with the ID 
"DEMO1" and then try to use the tenant.

infers doing something other than the automated install
which is why is is irrelevant to the process that caused it.


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database

2010-04-02 Thread David E. Jones (JIRA)


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David E. Jones commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

Actually BJ what I said was the exact cause of the problem: the record was 
missing.

The problem seems to be that you didn't believe me and so you're looking in the 
wrong place.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-3582:
---

since david suggestion had nothing to do with the problem.
I  don't see how that has any  bearing on the error.
many thingswill cause the message if yoiu just focus on it.
however this log as to do using the commands specified

As a note: I have had other errors relatied to the getone with an other than 
defualt delegator.

I am guessing is is a timing issue.
Those are buggers to troubleshoot.

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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[jira] Reopened: (OFBIZ-3582) unable to intialize tenant Database


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> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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Resolution: Not A Problem

> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> Message: java.lang.Class
>  stack trace 
> ---
> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
> org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.j
> ava:230)
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)
> 
> at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:
> 52)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoad
> Container.java:230)
> at 
> org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:1
> 00)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
> at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)

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Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3582.
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Resolution: Fixed
  Assignee: Jacques Le Roux

I can't reproduce in the normal case. If, as suggested David, I remove the 
DEMO1 line from the Tenant entity I get the same error, ie 

2010-04-03 01:09:33,859 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
 exception report --
Error creating delegator
Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
[DEMO1]
 stack trace ---
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
[default#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:25)
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:202)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)


Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException2010-04-03 
01:09:33,859 (main) [   DelegatorFactory.java:49 :ERROR]
 exception report --
Exception: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
Message: java.lang.Class
 stack trace ---
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: java.lang.Class
org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilObject.getObjectFromFactory(UtilObject.java:207)
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:47)
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)



at java.util.concurrent.ConcurrentHashMap.putIfAbsent(Unknown Source)
at 
org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactory.getDelegator(DelegatorFactory.java:52)
at 
org.ofbiz.entityext.data.EntityDataLoadContainer.start(EntityDataLoadContainer.java:230)
at 
org.ofbiz.base.container.ContainerLoader.start(ContainerLoader.java:100)
at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startStartLoaders(Start.java:272)
at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.startServer(Start.java:322)
at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.start(Start.java:326)
at org.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:411)


> unable to intialize tenant Database
> ---
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3582
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3582
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: Release Candidate Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
> Environment:  SINCE version 927271 using the Tenant login. 
>Reporter: BJ Freeman
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>Priority: Trivial
>
> use the line
> java -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -jar ofbiz.jar -install 
> -delegator=default#DEMO1
> when the Delegator is created it looks for a Tenant record with then new 
> delegator for DEMO1, but it has not been loaded yet so get a error.
> log of error.
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,406 (main) [  EntityEcaUtil.java:128:INFO ] Loaded 
> [1] E
> ntity ECA definitions from 
> C:/projects/java/ofbizf_new/applications/commonext/en
> titydef/eecas.xml in loader main
> 2010-03-28 15:25:31,437 (main) [DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:35 :ERROR]
>  exception report 
> --
> Error creating delegator
> Exception: org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException
> Message: No Tenant record found for delegator [default#DEMO1] with tenantId 
> [DEM
> O1]
>  stack trace 
> ---
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericEntityException: No Tenant record found for delegator 
> [d
> efault#DEMO1] with tenantId [DEMO1]
> org.ofbiz.entity.GenericDelegator.(GenericDelegator.java:230)
> org.ofbiz.entity.DelegatorFactoryImpl.getInstance(DelegatorFactoryImpl.java:33)
> org.ofbiz.enti

Re: Apachecon once again


From: "Adam Heath" 

Jacques Le Roux wrote:

It's better than TV :p


Like that is difficult.


Some humor never hurt

Jacques

Re: Apachecon once again


True!

Jacques Le Roux wrote:

It's better than TV :p

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" 

David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original 
statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon organization. 
I now understand what you said. No more ambiguities. Thanks for that 
clarification.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
You're right to be suspicious Ruth. The traffic volume on the 
private list is at least twice the volume on the dev list. Also, you 
should have seen the thread about you we had a couple of weeks ago!


Seriously though... what are you talking about? There seems to be 
some sort of implied issue here and I don't get it.


-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing 
list a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to 
all the secrets of those on the PMC.

Regards,
Ruth

Hans Bakker wrote:


perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:


Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't 
not meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to 
understand the dynamics of the conference and the ASF.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit 
effort with some of the proceeds going to the foundation".


You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon 
organization is a for profit organization".


I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I 
didn't make. You're the one who confronted me to challenge a 
statement that you said I made.


Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  
"ApacheCon is a for profit effort." No need to get 
confrontational.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon 
organization is a for profit organization. I want to make 
sure that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I 
make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a 
HUGE difference between an organization taking in more money 
than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" 
endeavor.


I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:

Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from 
ApacheCons in the sense that their takings exceed expenses. 
This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.


Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an 
organization with a "for profit" tax status?


Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User 
Conference of the Apache Software Foundation". This implies 
that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a non-profit 
organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is 
documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
organization, I'd like to know.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not 
the case.


ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds 
going to the foundation (in theory). In other words, the 
ASF gets money from ApacheCon and does not generally 
invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the 
anniversary) that also benefitted ApacheCon (since they 
had a party there for it), but that's the closest thing 
I'm aware of to what you are describing.


Also consider that the majority of the participants in the 
OFBiz events have been people who already know about and 
are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 with the enormous 
investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much 
of which was supposed to go into promoting the conference 
but the PR consulting company messed up that year (which 
caused them to be replaced), and so even then most of the 
people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.


Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there 
were far more developers and contributors attending than 
users, and typically the users were people who happened to 
live close to the conference and who attended to check out 
what was going on.


We need something else to attract end-users and better 
meet their needs.


-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon

Re: Apachecon once again

Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> It's better than TV :p

Like that is difficult.

Re: Apachecon once again


It's better than TV :p

Jacques

From: "Ruth Hoffman" 

David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon 
organization. I now understand what you said. No more ambiguities. Thanks for that clarification.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
You're right to be suspicious Ruth. The traffic volume on the private list is at least twice the volume on the dev list. Also, 
you should have seen the thread about you we had a couple of weeks ago!


Seriously though... what are you talking about? There seems to be some sort of 
implied issue here and I don't get it.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing list a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not 
privy to all the secrets of those on the PMC.

Regards,
Ruth

Hans Bakker wrote:


perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:


Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to 
understand the dynamics of the conference and the ASF.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the 
proceeds going to the foundation".

You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
profit organization".

I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. You're the one who confronted me to challenge a 
statement that you said I made.


Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for profit 
effort." No need to get confrontational.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for profit organization. I want to make sure that 
I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE 
difference between an organization taking in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" 
endeavor.


I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:

Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that their takings exceed expenses. 
This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.


Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache Software Foundation". This implies 
that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is 
documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF 
gets money from ApacheCon and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the foundation did 
invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for 
it), but that's the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.


Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have been people who already know about and are 
already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of which 
was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting company messed up that year (which caused them 
to be replaced), and so even then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.


Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more developers and contributors attending than users, 
and typically the users were people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check out what was 
going on.


We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:



Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immens

Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3600) specialpurpose - pos


Yes, there are some tabs in the patch, just have a look, not a big deal anyway, 
but better to avoid of course

Jacques

From: "Robert Morley" 
I thought I had tabs set to four spaces, is that what you meant or  
something else?


Bob

On 2010-04-02, at 4:33 PM, "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)"   
wrote:




[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel 
 ]


Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3600.
--

   Resolution: Fixed
 Assignee: Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Bob,

Your patch is in trunk at r930373


Not much to say, but please take care of tabs ;)


specialpurpose - pos


   Key: OFBIZ-3600
   URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600
   Project: OFBiz
Issue Type: Sub-task
  Reporter: Bob Morley
  Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
   Fix For: SVN trunk

   Attachments: OFBIZ-3600_ResolveJavaWarningsPos.patch





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Re: [jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3600) specialpurpose - pos

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Morley

I thought I had tabs set to four spaces, is that what you meant or  
something else?


Bob

On 2010-04-02, at 4:33 PM, "Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)"   
wrote:




[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel 
 ]


Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3600.
--

   Resolution: Fixed
 Assignee: Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Bob,

Your patch is in trunk at r930373


Not much to say, but please take care of tabs ;)


specialpurpose - pos


   Key: OFBIZ-3600
   URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600
   Project: OFBiz
Issue Type: Sub-task
  Reporter: Bob Morley
  Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
   Fix For: SVN trunk

   Attachments: OFBIZ-3600_ResolveJavaWarningsPos.patch





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Re: Apachecon once again


David:
I think this thread is just about dead.
Regardless of what others think, I found ambiguity in your original 
statement concerning the profit motive of the ApacheCon organization. I 
now understand what you said. No more ambiguities. Thanks for that 
clarification.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

You're right to be suspicious Ruth. The traffic volume on the private list is 
at least twice the volume on the dev list. Also, you should have seen the 
thread about you we had a couple of weeks ago!

Seriously though... what are you talking about? There seems to be some sort of 
implied issue here and I don't get it.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing list a 
friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to all the secrets of 
those on the PMC.
Regards,
Ruth

Hans Bakker wrote:


perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
  

Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not meant as 
an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the dynamics of the 
conference and the ASF.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
   


Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the 
proceeds going to the foundation".

You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
profit organization".

I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. 
You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you said I made.

Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

   
  

Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for profit 
effort." No need to get confrontational.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
   


Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:


  

Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for profit 
organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I 
make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE difference between an 
organization taking in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a 
"for profit" endeavor.

I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:
  


Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that 
their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache 
Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a 
non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is documented that 
ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
 


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

Re: Apachecon once again


You're right to be suspicious Ruth. The traffic volume on the private list is 
at least twice the volume on the dev list. Also, you should have seen the 
thread about you we had a couple of weeks ago!

Seriously though... what are you talking about? There seems to be some sort of 
implied issue here and I don't get it.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Your point?
> I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
> Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing list a 
> friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to all the secrets 
> of those on the PMC.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Hans Bakker wrote:
>> perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?
>> 
>> On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi David:
>>> This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not meant 
>>> as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the dynamics of 
>>> the conference and the ASF.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
 Ruth,
 
 Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with 
 some of the proceeds going to the foundation".
 
 You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is 
 a for profit organization".
 
 I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't 
 make. You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you 
 said I made.
 
 Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?
 
 -David
 
 
 On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 

> Hello David:
> 
> I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for 
> profit effort." No need to get confrontational.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>
>> Ruth,
>> 
>> I challenge you to quote where I said that.
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> Thanks that has been my understanding.
>>> 
>>> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is 
>>> a for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under 
>>> the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this 
>>> conference. There is a HUGE difference between an organization taking 
>>> in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a "for 
>>> profit" endeavor.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>   
 Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons 
 in the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes 
 back into the foundation account to be used for other expenses 
 involved in running the foundation.
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 HotWax Media
 http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
 
 On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
  
> Hi David:
> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization 
> with a "for profit" tax status?
> 
> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference 
> of the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is 
> sanctioned by ASF and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, 
> if you know for sure where it is documented that ApacheCon is a 
> separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>  
>> It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
>> 
>> ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to 
>> the foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from 
>> ApacheCon and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 
>> 2009 I think the foundation did invest some money in marketing (for 
>> the anniversary) that also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a 
>> party there for it), but that's the closest thing I'm aware of to 
>> what you are describing.
>> 
>> Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz 
>> events have been people who already know about and are already using 
>> OFBiz. Even in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference 
>> by OFBiz contributors, much of which was supposed to go into 
>> promoting the conference but the PR consulting company messed up 
>> that year (which c

Re: Apachecon once again


Ruth Hoffman wrote:

Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing 
list a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to 
all the secrets of those on the PMC.

Past or present.

Regards,
Ruth

Hans Bakker wrote:

perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 

Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't 
not meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand 
the dynamics of the conference and the ASF.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
   

Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort 
with some of the proceeds going to the foundation".


You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon 
organization is a for profit organization".


I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I 
didn't make. You're the one who confronted me to challenge a 
statement that you said I made.


Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

   

Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon 
is a for profit effort." No need to get confrontational.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
   

Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
   

Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon 
organization is a for profit organization. I want to make sure 
that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I make my 
decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE 
difference between an organization taking in more money than 
expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" endeavor.


I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:
  
Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from 
ApacheCons in the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  
This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be used 
for other expenses involved in running the foundation.


Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an 
organization with a "for profit" tax status?


Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User 
Conference of the Apache Software Foundation". This implies 
that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a non-profit 
organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is 
documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
organization, I'd like to know.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
 
It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the 
case.


ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds 
going to the foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF 
gets money from ApacheCon and does not generally invest any 
money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the foundation did invest 
some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), 
but that's the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are 
describing.


Also consider that the majority of the participants in the 
OFBiz events have been people who already know about and are 
already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 with the enormous 
investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but 
the PR consulting company messed up that year (which caused 
them to be replaced), and so even then most of the people 
attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.


Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were 
far more developers and contributors attending than users, 
and typically the users were people who happened to live 
close to the conference and who attended to check out what 
was going on.


We need something else to attract end-users and better meet 
their needs.


-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and 
using the immense resources available to the Foundation to 
do that.


IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and 
(getting smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is 
for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not 
"vacation with a purpose".


Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:

I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and 
done right.

Re: Apachecon once again


Your point?
I asked for clarification. I got it. End of story.
Thanks for helping me out Hans. And thanks for making this mailing list 
a friendlier place for all of us out here who are not privy to all the 
secrets of those on the PMC.

Regards,
Ruth

Hans Bakker wrote:

perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
  

Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not 
meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the 
dynamics of the conference and the ASF.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the 
proceeds going to the foundation".

You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
profit organization".

I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. 
You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you said I made.

Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  
  

Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for profit 
effort." No need to get confrontational.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:



Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  
  

Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for profit 
organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I 
make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE difference between an 
organization taking in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a 
"for profit" endeavor.

I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:
   



Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that 
their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  
  
  

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache 
Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a 
non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is documented that 
ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
  



It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

   
  
  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
resources available to the Foundation to do that.

IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by the hour) 
OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not "vacation with a 
purpose".

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:
 



I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I know 
HP helps out with the expenses of

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Hans Bakker

perhaps next time read more carefully and think again and then reply?

On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 16:04 -0400, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi David:
> This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not 
> meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the 
> dynamics of the conference and the ASF.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
> > Ruth,
> >
> > Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with 
> > some of the proceeds going to the foundation".
> >
> > You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a 
> > for profit organization".
> >
> > I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. 
> > You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you said I 
> > made.
> >
> > Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Hello David:
> >>
> >> I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for 
> >> profit effort." No need to get confrontational.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ruth
> >>
> >> David E Jones wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Ruth,
> >>>
> >>> I challenge you to quote where I said that.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>   
>  Hi Scott:
>  Thanks that has been my understanding.
> 
>  However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a 
>  for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under 
>  the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this 
>  conference. There is a HUGE difference between an organization taking in 
>  more money than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" 
>  endeavor.
> 
>  I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
>  Regards,
>  Ruth
> 
>  Scott Gray wrote:
> 
>  
> > Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons 
> > in the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes 
> > back into the foundation account to be used for other expenses involved 
> > in running the foundation.
> >
> > Regards
> > Scott
> >
> > HotWax Media
> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >
> > On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >
> >   
> >   
> >> Hi David:
> >> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization 
> >> with a "for profit" tax status?
> >>
> >> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference 
> >> of the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned 
> >> by ASF and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know 
> >> for sure where it is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for 
> >> profit, organization, I'd like to know.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ruth
> >>
> >> David E Jones wrote:
> >>   
> >> 
> >>> It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
> >>>
> >>> ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to 
> >>> the foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from 
> >>> ApacheCon and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 
> >>> 2009 I think the foundation did invest some money in marketing (for 
> >>> the anniversary) that also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a 
> >>> party there for it), but that's the closest thing I'm aware of to 
> >>> what you are describing.
> >>>
> >>> Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz 
> >>> events have been people who already know about and are already using 
> >>> OFBiz. Even in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference 
> >>> by OFBiz contributors, much of which was supposed to go into 
> >>> promoting the conference but the PR consulting company messed up that 
> >>> year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even then most of the 
> >>> people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.
> >>>
> >>> Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
> >>> developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the 
> >>> users were people who happened to live close to the conference and 
> >>> who attended to check out what was going on.
> >>>
> >>> We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their 
> >>> needs.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
>  Hi Ean:
>  Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
> 
>  ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and usin

[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3600) specialpurpose - pos


 [ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-3600.
--

Resolution: Fixed
  Assignee: Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Bob,

Your patch is in trunk at r930373  


Not much to say, but please take care of tabs ;)

> specialpurpose - pos
> 
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3600
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3600
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Sub-task
>Reporter: Bob Morley
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3600_ResolveJavaWarningsPos.patch
>
>


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Re: Apachecon once again


Hi David:
This says it all. No need to defend anything. My comments weren't not 
meant as an offensive move on my part. I only want to understand the 
dynamics of the conference and the ASF.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the 
proceeds going to the foundation".

You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
profit organization".

I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. 
You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you said I made.

Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for profit 
effort." No need to get confrontational.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for profit 
organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I 
make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE difference between an 
organization taking in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a 
"for profit" endeavor.

I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:
   


Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that 
their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  
  

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache 
Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a 
non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is documented that 
ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
  


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

   
  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
resources available to the Foundation to do that.

IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by the hour) 
OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not "vacation with a 
purpose".

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:
 


I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I know 
HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping fly in 
developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make attendance 
impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we may come to some 
agreement about how we would share those expenses for speakers with something 
especially important to contribute.

Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of flexibility 
about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations should be 
purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. Ther

Re: Apachecon once again


Ruth,

Yeah, that's the point, I wrote: "ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of 
the proceeds going to the foundation".

You wrote: "David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
profit organization".

I guess my problem is I don't know how to defend a statement I didn't make. 
You're the one who confronted me to challenge a statement that you said I made.

Sorry, I guess I just don't know how to respond. Any hints?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hello David:
> 
> I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a for 
> profit effort." No need to get confrontational.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>> Ruth,
>> 
>> I challenge you to quote where I said that.
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> Thanks that has been my understanding.
>>> 
>>> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a 
>>> for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the 
>>> correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this conference. 
>>> There is a HUGE difference between an organization taking in more money 
>>> than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" endeavor.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Scott Gray wrote:
>>>
 Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in 
 the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back 
 into the foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in 
 running the foundation.
 
 Regards
 Scott
 
 HotWax Media
 http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
 
 On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
   
> Hi David:
> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with 
> a "for profit" tax status?
> 
> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of 
> the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by 
> ASF and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for 
> sure where it is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
> organization, I'd like to know.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>   
>> It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
>> 
>> ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
>> foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from 
>> ApacheCon and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 
>> I think the foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the 
>> anniversary) that also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party 
>> there for it), but that's the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are 
>> describing.
>> 
>> Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events 
>> have been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. 
>> Even in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz 
>> contributors, much of which was supposed to go into promoting the 
>> conference but the PR consulting company messed up that year (which 
>> caused them to be replaced), and so even then most of the people 
>> attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.
>> 
>> Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
>> developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the 
>> users were people who happened to live close to the conference and who 
>> attended to check out what was going on.
>> 
>> We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>
>>> Hi Ean:
>>> Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
>>> 
>>> ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the 
>>> immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.
>>> 
>>> IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting 
>>> smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. 
>>> Or rather, our potential end-users. This should be the place where we 
>>> showcase our wares and not "vacation with a purpose".
>>> 
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Ean Schuessler wrote:
>>>  
 I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done 
 right. I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of 
 that is helping fly in developers from countries where the currency 
 exchange rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not 
 be able

Re: [jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3634) ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check

2010-04-02 Thread Scott Gray

On 2/04/2010, at 10:59 AM, Adam Heath wrote:

> Adam Heath (JIRA) wrote:
>> [ 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>>  ]
>> 
>> Adam Heath updated OFBIZ-3634:
>> --
>> 
>>Attachment: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch
>> 
>>> ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check
>>> --
>>> 
>>>Key: OFBIZ-3634
>>>URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634
>>>Project: OFBiz
>>> Issue Type: Bug
>>> Components: order
>>>   Reporter: Adam Heath
>>>Attachments: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch
>>> 
>>> 
>>> PROMO_GWP processing always requires the gifted item to have available 
>>> inventory.  There is no way to have that configurable, no way to have the 
>>> free item get backordered.
>>> The attached patch removes the inventory check on *real* products, and 
>>> instead created a new condition, PPIP_PRODUCT_INV, so that *any* promo can 
>>> pass/fail based on an inventory check.
>>> I did not commit this patch, because the full fix would need to handle 
>>> virtual products as well.  I don't understand how PROMO_GWP works with 
>>> virtual products when doing inventory, so I need help with that.
> 
> Scott, you originally commented when I asked about the PROMO_GWP
> inventory check.  Could you look at this for me?  I'd really
> appreciate it.

Sure thing Adam, I'll try and take a look over the weekend.



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Re: Apachecon once again


Hello David:

I simply would like clarification on your statement:  "ApacheCon is a 
for profit effort." No need to get confrontational.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for profit 
organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the correct assumptions when I 
make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a HUGE difference between an 
organization taking in more money than expenses and an organization operating as a 
"for profit" endeavor.

I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:


Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that 
their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache 
Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a 
non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is documented that 
ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
   


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  
  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
resources available to the Foundation to do that.

IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by the hour) 
OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not "vacation with a 
purpose".

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:
  


I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I know 
HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping fly in 
developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make attendance 
impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we may come to some 
agreement about how we would share those expenses for speakers with something 
especially important to contribute.

Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of flexibility 
about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations should be 
purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. There are lots of options like 
that in all kinds of places. We can think of it as a collaboratively planned 
vacation with a purpose.

David E Jones wrote:
  
  

I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I 
should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing 
anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to 
anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit speakers and 
I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.
Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and liability 
with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past efforts, perhaps 
the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as well. About that, I don't 
know. ApacheCon was

Re: Apachecon once again


Ruth,

I challenge you to quote where I said that.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Scott:
> Thanks that has been my understanding.
> 
> However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a for 
> profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under the correct 
> assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this conference. There is a 
> HUGE difference between an organization taking in more money than expenses 
> and an organization operating as a "for profit" endeavor.
> 
> I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in 
>> the sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into 
>> the foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in running the 
>> foundation.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
>> On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi David:
>>> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a 
>>> "for profit" tax status?
>>> 
>>> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of 
>>> the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF 
>>> and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure 
>>> where it is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
>>> organization, I'd like to know.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> David E Jones wrote:
>>>
 It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
 
 ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
 foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon 
 and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
 foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that 
 also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but 
 that's the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.
 
 Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events 
 have been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even 
 in 2008 with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz 
 contributors, much of which was supposed to go into promoting the 
 conference but the PR consulting company messed up that year (which caused 
 them to be replaced), and so even then most of the people attending 
 sessions were presenters at other sessions.
 
 Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
 developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users 
 were people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended 
 to check out what was going on.
 
 We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.
 
 -David
 
 
 On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
 
   
> Hi Ean:
> Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
> 
> ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the 
> immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.
> 
> IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting 
> smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or 
> rather, our potential end-users. This should be the place where we 
> showcase our wares and not "vacation with a purpose".
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Ean Schuessler wrote:
>   
>> I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. 
>> I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is 
>> helping fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange 
>> rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to 
>> do that or we may come to some agreement about how we would share those 
>> expenses for speakers with something especially important to contribute.
>> 
>> Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
>> flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the 
>> accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. 
>> There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can think 
>> of it as a collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.
>> 
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>   
>>> I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to 
>>> me I should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in 
>>> organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not 
>>> committing to anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to 
>>> recruit speakers and I'm not volunteering to speak o

Re: ApacheCon Technical Track


Just to clarify:
This is different then the "Business/Community" Track call for 
participation discussed previously.

Regards,
Ruth

Ruth Hoffman wrote:

Hi PMC and other community members:

On the official "Apache Software Foundation Blog" is says per 
ApacheCon NA 2010:


" ...ApacheCon's technical tracks are currently being planned by their 
respective Project Management Committees and will be announced in 
upcoming weeks..."


Will the OFBiz PMC be planning any technical tracks for the 
conference? If so, who should I talk to about this. If not, why not 
and what can I do to change this?


TIA
Ruth

ApacheCon Technical Track


Hi PMC and other community members:

On the official "Apache Software Foundation Blog" is says per ApacheCon 
NA 2010:


" ...ApacheCon's technical tracks are currently being planned by their 
respective Project Management Committees and will be announced in 
upcoming weeks..."


Will the OFBiz PMC be planning any technical tracks for the conference? 
If so, who should I talk to about this. If not, why not and what can I 
do to change this?


TIA
Ruth

Re: Apachecon once again


Hi Scott:
Thanks that has been my understanding.

However, David has made a statement that the ApacheCon organization is a 
for profit organization. I want to make sure that I'm operating under 
the correct assumptions when I make my decisions relative to this 
conference. There is a HUGE difference between an organization taking in 
more money than expenses and an organization operating as a "for profit" 
endeavor.


I'd like to know what David really means by his statement.
Regards,
Ruth

Scott Gray wrote:

Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the sense that 
their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the foundation account to be 
used for other expenses involved in running the foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a "for 
profit" tax status?

Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the Apache 
Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and that it is a 
non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it is documented that 
ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd like to know.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

 
  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
resources available to the Foundation to do that.

IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by the hour) 
OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not "vacation with a 
purpose".

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:
   


I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I know 
HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping fly in 
developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make attendance 
impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we may come to some 
agreement about how we would share those expenses for speakers with something 
especially important to contribute.

Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of flexibility 
about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations should be 
purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. There are lots of options like 
that in all kinds of places. We can think of it as a collaboratively planned 
vacation with a purpose.

David E Jones wrote:
 
  

I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I 
should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing 
anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to 
anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit speakers and 
I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.
Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and liability 
with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past efforts, perhaps 
the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as well. About that, I don't 
know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because people were paying a lot to attend 
(both the training and the conference) and yet none of the money (not a penny) 
went to any of the presenters or trainers. In other words, the presenters and 
trainers were paying to be there and so were the attendees. This culminated in 
some fascinating personal attacks from peopl

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Scott Gray

Apache is non-profit, but the foundation does "profit" from ApacheCons in the 
sense that their takings exceed expenses.  This "profit" goes back into the 
foundation account to be used for other expenses involved in running the 
foundation.

Regards
Scott

HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

On 2/04/2010, at 12:32 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi David:
> Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with a 
> "for profit" tax status?
> 
> Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of the 
> Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by ASF and 
> that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for sure where it 
> is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, organization, I'd 
> like to know.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>> It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.
>> 
>> ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
>> foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon 
>> and does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
>> foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that 
>> also benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's 
>> the closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.
>> 
>> Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
>> been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
>> with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much 
>> of which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR 
>> consulting company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), 
>> and so even then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at 
>> other sessions.
>> 
>> Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
>> developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users 
>> were people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to 
>> check out what was going on.
>> 
>> We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Ean:
>>> Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
>>> 
>>> ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
>>> resources available to the Foundation to do that.
>>> 
>>> IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller 
>>> by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, 
>>> our potential end-users. This should be the place where we showcase our 
>>> wares and not "vacation with a purpose".
>>> 
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Ean Schuessler wrote:
>>>
 I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I 
 know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping 
 fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make 
 attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we 
 may come to some agreement about how we would share those expenses for 
 speakers with something especially important to contribute.
 
 Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
 flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations 
 should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. There are lots of 
 options like that in all kinds of places. We can think of it as a 
 collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.
 
 David E Jones wrote:
  
> I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me 
> I should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in 
> organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not 
> committing to anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to 
> recruit speakers and I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.
> Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and 
> liability with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past 
> efforts, perhaps the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as 
> well. About that, I don't know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because 
> people were paying a lot to attend (both the training and the conference) 
> and yet none of the money (not a penny) went to any of the presenters or 
> trainers. In other words, the presenters and trainers were paying to be 
> there and so were the attendees. This culminated in some fascinating 
> personal attacks from people who attended and who were not satisfied that 
> what they got was worth what they paid for it.
> 
> Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that ended 
> up this way.

Re: Apachecon once again


Hi David:
Where have you seen it documented that ApacheCon is an organization with 
a "for profit" tax status?


Everything I see says that ApacheCon is the "Official User Conference of 
the Apache Software Foundation". This implies that it is sanctioned by 
ASF and that it is a non-profit organization. Please, if you know for 
sure where it is documented that ApacheCon is a separate, for profit, 
organization, I'd like to know.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

  

Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
resources available to the Foundation to do that.

IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by the hour) 
OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our potential end-users. This 
should be the place where we showcase our wares and not "vacation with a 
purpose".

Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:


I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I know 
HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping fly in 
developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make attendance 
impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we may come to some 
agreement about how we would share those expenses for speakers with something 
especially important to contribute.

Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of flexibility 
about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations should be 
purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. There are lots of options like 
that in all kinds of places. We can think of it as a collaboratively planned 
vacation with a purpose.

David E Jones wrote:
  

I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I 
should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing 
anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to 
anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit speakers and 
I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.
Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and liability 
with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past efforts, perhaps 
the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as well. About that, I don't 
know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because people were paying a lot to attend 
(both the training and the conference) and yet none of the money (not a penny) 
went to any of the presenters or trainers. In other words, the presenters and 
trainers were paying to be there and so were the attendees. This culminated in 
some fascinating personal attacks from people who attended and who were not 
satisfied that what they got was worth what they paid for it.

Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that ended up 
this way. In another conference I did some pre-conference training and made 
almost nothing doing it because the conference organizers mixed the funds for 
the training with the funds for the conference, and so basically I offered 
training and most of the proceeds went to subsidize the conference. My guess is 
that this happens a lot with conferences.

So, taking that on just so other people can make money? Well, I'd like to say 
that I learned my lesson and that's why I'm not interested (that would 
incorrectly make me look experienced and intelligent and somehow remotely good 
at business dealings), but the fact of the matter is that even if I wanted to I 
don't have the weeks of time and thousands of dol

Re: Use of JIRA Resolved status


Thanks for clarifying Bob

Jacques

Bob Morley wrote:

Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2586
But it seems there is still an issue...

Jacques



Hey -- It seems that the ticket we pointed INFRA to had a original request
for the "Patch Available" workflow status to be added, but through the
comments (which I should have read initially) they went with a new ticket
attribute named "Patch Available" as a tick/boolean.  This has caused some
confusion, and I think it is generally better to have the workflow status
available so I have commented on the INFRA-2586 ticket and hopefully Gavin
will revert the "tick" and go with the workflow status.

Re: Apachecon once again


It would be nice if it were that way, but that's just not the case.

ApacheCon is a for profit effort with some of the proceeds going to the 
foundation (in theory). In other words, the ASF gets money from ApacheCon and 
does not generally invest any money in ApacheCon. In 2009 I think the 
foundation did invest some money in marketing (for the anniversary) that also 
benefitted ApacheCon (since they had a party there for it), but that's the 
closest thing I'm aware of to what you are describing.

Also consider that the majority of the participants in the OFBiz events have 
been people who already know about and are already using OFBiz. Even in 2008 
with the enormous investments in the conference by OFBiz contributors, much of 
which was supposed to go into promoting the conference but the PR consulting 
company messed up that year (which caused them to be replaced), and so even 
then most of the people attending sessions were presenters at other sessions.

Even in the pre-ApacheCon OFBiz Users Conferences there were far more 
developers and contributors attending than users, and typically the users were 
people who happened to live close to the conference and who attended to check 
out what was going on.

We need something else to attract end-users and better meet their needs.

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Ean:
> Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.
> 
> ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the immense 
> resources available to the Foundation to do that.
> 
> IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting smaller by 
> the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or rather, our 
> potential end-users. This should be the place where we showcase our wares and 
> not "vacation with a purpose".
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> Ean Schuessler wrote:
>> I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right. I 
>> know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is helping 
>> fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange rates make 
>> attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to do that or we 
>> may come to some agreement about how we would share those expenses for 
>> speakers with something especially important to contribute.
>> 
>> Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
>> flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the accommodations 
>> should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. There are lots of 
>> options like that in all kinds of places. We can think of it as a 
>> collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.
>> 
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I 
>>> should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in 
>>> organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not 
>>> committing to anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to 
>>> recruit speakers and I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.
>>> Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and 
>>> liability with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past 
>>> efforts, perhaps the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as 
>>> well. About that, I don't know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because people 
>>> were paying a lot to attend (both the training and the conference) and yet 
>>> none of the money (not a penny) went to any of the presenters or trainers. 
>>> In other words, the presenters and trainers were paying to be there and so 
>>> were the attendees. This culminated in some fascinating personal attacks 
>>> from people who attended and who were not satisfied that what they got was 
>>> worth what they paid for it.
>>> 
>>> Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that ended 
>>> up this way. In another conference I did some pre-conference training and 
>>> made almost nothing doing it because the conference organizers mixed the 
>>> funds for the training with the funds for the conference, and so basically 
>>> I offered training and most of the proceeds went to subsidize the 
>>> conference. My guess is that this happens a lot with conferences.
>>> 
>>> So, taking that on just so other people can make money? Well, I'd like to 
>>> say that I learned my lesson and that's why I'm not interested (that would 
>>> incorrectly make me look experienced and intelligent and somehow remotely 
>>> good at business dealings), but the fact of the matter is that even if I 
>>> wanted to I don't have the weeks of time and thousands of dollars to even 
>>> participate in a bare minimum way. If someone else does, I'm sure many 
>>> people will benefit from their contributions and they should certainly step 
>>> up and go for it.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, sorry if any bitterness bled through in this text. I think it's 
>>> really just human nature

Re: Apachecon once again


Hi Ean:
Nice, but I think you might be missing my point.

ApacheCon is all about telling the world about OFBiz and using the 
immense resources available to the Foundation to do that.


IMHO it isn't really about socializing with the small and (getting 
smaller by the hour) OFBiz community. ApacheCon is for our end-users. Or 
rather, our potential end-users. This should be the place where we 
showcase our wares and not "vacation with a purpose".


Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Ruth

Ean Schuessler wrote:
I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done 
right. I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of 
that is helping fly in developers from countries where the currency 
exchange rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not 
be able to do that or we may come to some agreement about how we would 
share those expenses for speakers with something especially important 
to contribute.


Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the 
accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. 
There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can 
think of it as a collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.


David E Jones wrote:
I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed 
to me I should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a 
role in organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other 
words, I'm not committing to anything on behalf of the project and 
I'm not trying to recruit speakers and I'm not volunteering to speak 
or do training either.
Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and 
liability with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those 
past efforts, perhaps the for-profit organizers and maybe some 
attendees as well. About that, I don't know. ApacheCon was a mess in 
'08 because people were paying a lot to attend (both the training and 
the conference) and yet none of the money (not a penny) went to any 
of the presenters or trainers. In other words, the presenters and 
trainers were paying to be there and so were the attendees. This 
culminated in some fascinating personal attacks from people who 
attended and who were not satisfied that what they got was worth what 
they paid for it.


Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that 
ended up this way. In another conference I did some pre-conference 
training and made almost nothing doing it because the conference 
organizers mixed the funds for the training with the funds for the 
conference, and so basically I offered training and most of the 
proceeds went to subsidize the conference. My guess is that this 
happens a lot with conferences.


So, taking that on just so other people can make money? Well, I'd 
like to say that I learned my lesson and that's why I'm not 
interested (that would incorrectly make me look experienced and 
intelligent and somehow remotely good at business dealings), but the 
fact of the matter is that even if I wanted to I don't have the weeks 
of time and thousands of dollars to even participate in a bare 
minimum way. If someone else does, I'm sure many people will benefit 
from their contributions and they should certainly step up and go for 
it.


Anyway, sorry if any bitterness bled through in this text. I think 
it's really just human nature that expectations of EVERYONE involved 
with such things have expectations dramatically inconsistent with 
reality.

Re: Apachecon once again

Hi David:
Sorry you had such bad experiences.

I guess what you are saying here is that I need to forge ahead with my
own proposals to the organizers and not expect any backing from you.
That is ok with me. I know how much time and effort you spent in the
past coordinating these things and I for one appreciate everything
you've done.

FYI, my offer to present at both this and the past ApacheCon were/are
not predicated on getting paid. I never assumed I would get paid for any
work related to the project, be it code contributions or ApacheCon
presentations. I do this because I want to do it and I want to give back
to the community. I still believe in OFBiz and this is a wonderful
opportunity to tell the world about it.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:
I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit speakers and I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either.

Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and liability
with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past efforts, perhaps
the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as well. About that, I don't
know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because people were paying a lot to attend
(both the training and the conference) and yet none of the money (not a penny)
went to any of the presenters or trainers. In other words, the presenters and
trainers were paying to be there and so were the attendees. This culminated in
some fascinating personal attacks from people who attended and who were not
satisfied that what they got was worth what they paid for it.

Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that ended up
this way. In another conference I did some pre-conference training and made
almost nothing doing it because the conference organizers mixed the funds for
the training with the funds for the conference, and so basically I offered
training and most of the proceeds went to subsidize the conference. My guess is
that this happens a lot with conferences.

So, taking that on just so other people can make money? Well, I'd like to say
that I learned my lesson and that's why I'm not interested (that would
incorrectly make me look experienced and intelligent and somehow remotely good
at business dealings), but the fact of the matter is that even if I wanted to I
don't have the weeks of time and thousands of dollars to even participate in a
bare minimum way. If someone else does, I'm sure many people will benefit from
their contributions and they should certainly step up and go for it.

Anyway, sorry if any bitterness bled through in this text. I think it's really
just human nature that expectations of EVERYONE involved with such things have
expectations dramatically inconsistent with reality.

-David

On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

Hi David:

I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last November's
ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3) 50 minute
sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of ApacheCon, then,
depending on the venue, I may be able to commit to participating in that. My
session(s) will be end-user focused. In fact, I'm considering submitting a
proposal for a session on end-user use of the framework independent of any
applications.

I'm not sure what is meant by the rest of this thread, but regardless of the
participation from project committers, I plan to submit at least one proposal.

Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in
doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.

Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of
conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in
pushing this along?

-David

On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

Hi all,

so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
the conference call is over at the end of the month.

so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?

Cheers,

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Adrian Crum


Ean Schuessler wrote:
Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of 
flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the 
accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun. 
There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can think 
of it as a collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.


Sounds wonderful.

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Ean Schuessler

I think DebConf is a good example that this can be done and done right.
I know HP helps out with the expenses of DebConf but part of that is
helping fly in developers from countries where the currency exchange
rates make attendance impractically high. We may simply not be able to
do that or we may come to some agreement about how we would share those
expenses for speakers with something especially important to contribute.

Given the relatively small size of our community, we have a lot of
flexibility about where we choose to meet. In my mind, the
accommodations should be purposefully modest yet interesting and fun.
There are lots of options like that in all kinds of places. We can think
of it as a collaboratively planned vacation with a purpose.

--
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214-720-0700 x 315
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Re: Use of JIRA Resolved status

2010-04-02 Thread Bob Morley



Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> 
> Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2586
> But it seems there is still an issue...
> 
> Jacques
> 

Hey -- It seems that the ticket we pointed INFRA to had a original request
for the "Patch Available" workflow status to be added, but through the
comments (which I should have read initially) they went with a new ticket
attribute named "Patch Available" as a tick/boolean.  This has caused some
confusion, and I think it is generally better to have the workflow status
available so I have commented on the INFRA-2586 ticket and hopefully Gavin
will revert the "tick" and go with the workflow status.
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Re: Apachecon once again

I'm not sure if you meant this or not Ruth, but as it was addressed to me I 
should clarify: I did speak up here, but I am not taking a role in organizing 
anything as I did in previous years. In other words, I'm not committing to 
anything on behalf of the project and I'm not trying to recruit speakers and 
I'm not volunteering to speak or do training either. 

Quite frankly in the past it has required a lot of time and money and liability 
with no real benefit. I hope someone profited from those past efforts, perhaps 
the for-profit organizers and maybe some attendees as well. About that, I don't 
know. ApacheCon was a mess in '08 because people were paying a lot to attend 
(both the training and the conference) and yet none of the money (not a penny) 
went to any of the presenters or trainers. In other words, the presenters and 
trainers were paying to be there and so were the attendees. This culminated in 
some fascinating personal attacks from people who attended and who were not 
satisfied that what they got was worth what they paid for it.

Just in case anyone is wondering ApacheCon is not the only one that ended up 
this way. In another conference I did some pre-conference training and made 
almost nothing doing it because the conference organizers mixed the funds for 
the training with the funds for the conference, and so basically I offered 
training and most of the proceeds went to subsidize the conference. My guess is 
that this happens a lot with conferences.

So, taking that on just so other people can make money? Well, I'd like to say 
that I learned my lesson and that's why I'm not interested (that would 
incorrectly make me look experienced and intelligent and somehow remotely good 
at business dealings), but the fact of the matter is that even if I wanted to I 
don't have the weeks of time and thousands of dollars to even participate in a 
bare minimum way. If someone else does, I'm sure many people will benefit from 
their contributions and they should certainly step up and go for it.

Anyway, sorry if any bitterness bled through in this text. I think it's really 
just human nature that expectations of EVERYONE involved with such things have 
expectations dramatically inconsistent with reality.

-David

On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi David:
> 
> I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last November's 
> ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3) 50 minute 
> sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of ApacheCon, then, 
> depending on the venue, I may be able to commit to participating in that. My 
> session(s) will be end-user focused. In fact, I'm considering submitting a 
> proposal for a session on end-user use of the framework independent of any 
> applications.
> 
> I'm not sure what is meant by the rest of this thread, but regardless of the 
> participation from project committers, I plan to submit at least one  
> proposal.
> 
> Regards,
> Ruth
> 
> David E Jones wrote:
>> In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in 
>> doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.
>> 
>> Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of 
>> conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in 
>> pushing this along?
>> 
>> -David
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
>>> (https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
>>>  the conference call is over at the end of the month.
>>> 
>>> so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Erwan de FERRIERES
>>> www.nereide.biz
>>>
>> 
>> 
>>

Re: svn commit: r927256 - /ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java

hans...@apache.org wrote:
> Author: hansbak
> Date: Thu Mar 25 02:28:25 2010
> New Revision: 927256
> 
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=927256&view=rev
> Log:
> when exporting all data, an error message in the log advices to put the the 
> function in a transaction. also added extra commits to try to solve the 
> permgen problem. it is better now, but not solved completely
> 
> Modified:
> 
> ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java
> 
> Modified: 
> ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java?rev=927256&r1=927255&r2=927256&view=diff
> ==
> --- 
> ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java 
> (original)
> +++ 
> ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtools/WebToolsServices.java 
> Thu Mar 25 02:28:25 2010
> @@ -77,6 +77,7 @@ import org.ofbiz.entity.util.EntityDataL
>  import org.ofbiz.entity.util.EntityListIterator;
>  import org.ofbiz.entity.util.EntitySaxReader;
>  import org.ofbiz.entityext.EntityGroupUtil;
> +import org.ofbiz.entity.transaction.TransactionUtil;
>  import org.ofbiz.security.Security;
>  import org.ofbiz.service.DispatchContext;
>  import org.ofbiz.service.LocalDispatcher;
> @@ -508,6 +509,7 @@ public class WebToolsServices {
>  continue;
>  }
>  
> +TransactionUtil.begin();
>  // some databases don't support cursors, or other 
> problems may happen, so if there is an error here log it and move on to get 
> as much as possible
>  try {
>  values = delegator.find(curEntityName, null, 
> null, null, me.getPkFieldNames(), null);
> @@ -527,6 +529,10 @@ public class WebToolsServices {
>  do {
>  value.writeXmlText(writer, "");
>  numberWritten++;
> +if (numberWritten % 500 == 0) {
> +TransactionUtil.commit();
> +TransactionUtil.begin();
> +}
>  } while ((value = (GenericValue) values.next()) 
> != null);
>  writer.println("");
>  writer.close();
> @@ -535,6 +541,7 @@ public class WebToolsServices {
>  results.add("["+fileNumber +"] [---] " + 
> curEntityName + " has no records, not writing file");
>  }
>  values.close();
> +TransactionUtil.commit();
>  } catch (Exception ex) {
>  if (values != null) {
>  try {
> 

Bad transaction pattern.  boolean beganTx = TransactionUtil.begin();

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Ean Schuessler


Adam Heath wrote:

I'd talk about git svn workflows with ofbiz.
  

I could do something on one of these:
   - the Open Source for America website
   - a scheme for dynamically allocating warehouse bins and releasing 
them based on order item flow

   - QuickBooks integration via SOAP/QBXML
   - FedEx shipment estimation integration via SOAP

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Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Ean Schuessler

Let's build an app to manage this on top of OFBiz. We can build all the 
expenses into a project and have the price of the ticket dynamically 
calculated off the gross cost plus some safety margin.


I also have a Condorcet voting rig that I built on top of the survey 
system that would allow us to collaboratively rank choices such as 
talks, the location for the conference and outside events.


Erik Schuessler wrote:
I would agree, it is interesting to have a "for profit" event on free 
or open software, it is kinda self defeating. I understand if they 
were just covering costs, but that seems to be more focused on being a 
money maker.

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e...@brainfood.com
214-720-0700 x 315
Brainfood, Inc.
http://www.brainfood.com

Re: Apachecon once again

Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi David:
> 
> I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last
> November's ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3)
> 50 minute sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of
> ApacheCon, then, depending on the venue, I may be able to commit to
> participating in that. My session(s) will be end-user focused. In fact,
> I'm considering submitting a proposal for a session on end-user use of
> the framework independent of any applications.

I'd talk about git svn workflows with ofbiz.

Backward compatibility and software versus developers (was Re: squareFootage with decimals)

I've felt this same frustration Jacopo.

OFBiz is a large project with a long history and the community has been mostly 
focused on making it easy for developers to get involved (ie inviting all sorts 
of contributions and the people with them in order to hopefully get more 
contributions). This has worked pretty well to attract developers who are 
willing to contribute certain things, mostly new features.

What hasn't worked well is attracting contributions for documentation, 
testing/fixes/stability, backward compatibility, etc. IMO the key is that for a 
given change, like this data model change, there is no reason the same person 
has to take care of all of this stuff. The way a volunteer community like this 
is structured is that people need a motivation to contribute things, and that 
means that those who care about something should contribute to that.

In other words, if you care about OFBiz supporting backward compatibility then 
you should contribute to backward compatibility efforts. If you care about 
stability, you should contribute to stability efforts.

The problem is... not enough people care enough about these things, or at least 
not enough to do anything about it except complain and attack those who are 
contributing other things or other aspects of specific things. This is a break 
down in collaboration.

On top of that we have a severe issue with collaboration on design. Part of 
this is that people have a hard time distinguishing between requirements and 
designs, so discussions about design go nowhere in a hurry. Maybe more 
important is that we just don't try to collaborate on requirements gathering 
and design very much, and if we did then we could get better at the problem 
above and after a while it wouldn't be an issue. The result is that the 
different parts of the project have very different design approaches and 
sometimes unresolved conflicted requirements. Sometimes this shows up as many 
ways of doing the same thing. Sometimes this shows up as hidden features that 
are not apparent when looking at the XML schemas or data model or the API (ie 
the external interface isn't designed well making the feature inaccessible to 
customizers and/or end-users). Most ASF project benefit from having a 
standardized spec to implement (ie the design has already been done outside the 
project), but OFBiz doesn't have that benefit and so whether we like it or not 
we are doing design, and unfortunately the design seems to be mostly by default 
(or accident, or implicit design) and arbitrary external requirements as 
opposed to explicit coordinated efforts and design before implementation.

In short it seems like there are various people in the community who would like 
to see the focus of the project shift away from making things easy for 
developers and toward making things easy for end-users. I think that's a great 
approach, but the problem is how do we do it... what motivation can we leverage 
and how can we mobilize people with that motivation to make these happen? 
People can complain about how things "should be" all day long, but that's not 
going to change anything. If no one is motivated to do these things then the 
only result of complaints will be alienation and less complaints.

The irony is that the community focus on attracting developers instead of 
attracting end-users has resulted in a social environment that discourages 
contributions and alienates developers.

Is is just the people involved, or is there something fundamentally wrong with 
the whole approach?

-David

P.S. A good example of this dynamic (IMO) is the NUMMI car plant and the 
differences in corporate culture between Toyota and GM. GM focused on making 
workers happy and resulted in poor quality and unhappy workers. Toyota focused 
on making good cars and resulted in high quality and happier workers. This 
American Life did a great piece on this that is available here:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/403/nummi

I recommend this to everyone as there are some valuable lessons there that I 
believe are directly applicable to OFBiz and community-driven software, and 
even software development in general.

On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:

> In rev. 930182 I have created also the upgrade script to migrate data from 
> old to new fields.
> 
> By the way, are we sure it is a good idea for the project to enforce these 
> rules about backward compatibility?
> It seems to me that the development in OFBiz is becoming more difficult every 
> day and this is self evident from this small improvement that has caused a 
> rather long thread.
> 
> We are worried about causing harm to an hypothetical group of end users that, 
> we suppose, don't follow the dev lists, don't have any internal IT team that 
> can help them in the migration, don't have a budget for the upgrade, don't 
> understand about the risks of upgrading a production ERP instance and just 
> want to do this by bl

Re: Apachecon once again


Hi Erik:
Are you talking about ApacheCon as a "for profit" endeavor?
Regards,
Ruth

Erik Schuessler wrote:
I would agree, it is interesting to have a "for profit" event on free 
or open software, it is kinda self defeating. I understand if they 
were just covering costs, but that seems to be more focused on being a 
money maker.


E

On 4/2/2010 11:30 AM, David E Jones wrote:
In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more 
interested in doing a separate conference that would be less 
expensive to attend.


Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any 
sort of conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else 
interested in pushing this along?


-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

  

Hi all,

so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community), 
the conference call is over at the end of the month.


so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?

Cheers,

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz

Re: Apachecon once again


Hi David:

I would be very interested in hosting sessions similar to last 
November's ApacheCon in Oakland. I'm prepared to commit to at least (3) 
50 minute sessions. If someone wants to organize something out side of 
ApacheCon, then, depending on the venue, I may be able to commit to 
participating in that. My session(s) will be end-user focused. In fact, 
I'm considering submitting a proposal for a session on end-user use of 
the framework independent of any applications.


I'm not sure what is meant by the rest of this thread, but regardless of 
the participation from project committers, I plan to submit at least 
one  proposal.


Regards,
Ruth

David E Jones wrote:

In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in 
doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.

Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of 
conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in 
pushing this along?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

  

Hi all,

so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
 the conference call is over at the end of the month.

so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?

Cheers,

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz

Re: Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Erik Schuessler

I would agree, it is interesting to have a "for profit" event on free or 
open software, it is kinda self defeating. I understand if they were 
just covering costs, but that seems to be more focused on being a money 
maker.


E

On 4/2/2010 11:30 AM, David E Jones wrote:

In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in 
doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.

Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of 
conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in 
pushing this along?

-David


On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

   

Hi all,

so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
 the conference call is over at the end of the month.

so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?

Cheers,

--
Erwan de FERRIERES
www.nereide.biz
 
   


--
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Brainfood | Web ERP Solutions
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX 75226

Re: [jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3634) ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check

Adam Heath (JIRA) wrote:
>  [ 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
>  ]
> 
> Adam Heath updated OFBIZ-3634:
> --
> 
> Attachment: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch
> 
>> ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check
>> --
>>
>> Key: OFBIZ-3634
>> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634
>> Project: OFBiz
>>  Issue Type: Bug
>>  Components: order
>>Reporter: Adam Heath
>> Attachments: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch
>>
>>
>> PROMO_GWP processing always requires the gifted item to have available 
>> inventory.  There is no way to have that configurable, no way to have the 
>> free item get backordered.
>> The attached patch removes the inventory check on *real* products, and 
>> instead created a new condition, PPIP_PRODUCT_INV, so that *any* promo can 
>> pass/fail based on an inventory check.
>> I did not commit this patch, because the full fix would need to handle 
>> virtual products as well.  I don't understand how PROMO_GWP works with 
>> virtual products when doing inventory, so I need help with that.

Scott, you originally commented when I asked about the PROMO_GWP
inventory check.  Could you look at this for me?  I'd really
appreciate it.

Plus, anyone else who might like this fix finished.

[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3634) ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check


 [ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Adam Heath updated OFBIZ-3634:
--

Attachment: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch

> ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3634
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: order
>Reporter: Adam Heath
> Attachments: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch
>
>
> PROMO_GWP processing always requires the gifted item to have available 
> inventory.  There is no way to have that configurable, no way to have the 
> free item get backordered.
> The attached patch removes the inventory check on *real* products, and 
> instead created a new condition, PPIP_PRODUCT_INV, so that *any* promo can 
> pass/fail based on an inventory check.
> I did not commit this patch, because the full fix would need to handle 
> virtual products as well.  I don't understand how PROMO_GWP works with 
> virtual products when doing inventory, so I need help with that.

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[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3634) ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check

ProductPromoWorker PROMO_GWP hard-codes a required inventory check
--

 Key: OFBIZ-3634
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3634
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: order
Reporter: Adam Heath
 Attachments: PROMO_GWP_inventory_check.patch

PROMO_GWP processing always requires the gifted item to have available 
inventory.  There is no way to have that configurable, no way to have the free 
item get backordered.

The attached patch removes the inventory check on *real* products, and instead 
created a new condition, PPIP_PRODUCT_INV, so that *any* promo can pass/fail 
based on an inventory check.

I did not commit this patch, because the full fix would need to handle virtual 
products as well.  I don't understand how PROMO_GWP works with virtual products 
when doing inventory, so I need help with that.

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Re: OFBiz Website

2010-04-02 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya


Glad to know that they liked OFBiz site.
Thanks Tim for letting us know about this communication.

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On 02-Apr-2010, at 9:51 PM, Tim Ruppert   
wrote:


FYI, I answered to Grant privately since he's not on the list and  
hooked him up with Erik, Ean and Mike to see where we might be able  
to help these guys out as well.


Cheers,
Ruppert
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http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:


Hey OFBiz Team,

Some of us Lucene people were wondering who did your landing page  
website and what you are using to generate it?  Feel free to reject  
this and just send back a response privately, as I'm not subscribed  
to dev@ and don't really want to go through all of that for just  
one question.


Thanks,
Grant Ingersoll

Re: Apachecon once again

In the last thread about this it sounded like people were more interested in 
doing a separate conference that would be less expensive to attend.

Either way, I haven't heard anything about anyone pushing for any sort of 
conference. Has anyone else heard anything, or is anyone else interested in 
pushing this along?

-David

On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
> (https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community),
>  the conference call is over at the end of the month.
> 
> so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
> Erwan de FERRIERES
> www.nereide.biz

Re: OFBiz Website

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Ruppert

FYI, I answered to Grant privately since he's not on the list and hooked him up 
with Erik, Ean and Mike to see where we might be able to help these guys out as 
well.

Cheers,
Ruppert
--
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HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:00 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:

> Hey OFBiz Team,
> 
> Some of us Lucene people were wondering who did your landing page website and 
> what you are using to generate it?  Feel free to reject this and just send 
> back a response privately, as I'm not subscribed to dev@ and don't really 
> want to go through all of that for just one question.
> 
> Thanks,
> Grant Ingersoll

OFBiz Website

2010-04-02 Thread Grant Ingersoll

Hey OFBiz Team,

Some of us Lucene people were wondering who did your landing page website and 
what you are using to generate it?  Feel free to reject this and just send back 
a response privately, as I'm not subscribed to dev@ and don't really want to go 
through all of that for just one question.

Thanks,
Grant Ingersoll

Re: Use of JIRA Resolved status


Done at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2586
But it seems there is still an issue...

Jacques

From: "Tim Ruppert" 
Seems like something that would make things clearer so probably not a bad way to go.  If there was a way to see from the 
attachments that we had an upload already, I'd probably go for that - but in the absence, the additional status seems like a 
reasonable request to me.  +1


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Bob Morley wrote:




Tim Ruppert wrote:


I think it makes sense to have some way of distinguishing issues that have
been filed from ones that have been filed and fix is provided - but I'm
not sure about adding additional statuses to the workflow.  Normally I'd
totally agree (I've coded many workflows and creating custom statuses in
JIRA and it's really powerful) - but I'm not sure how much access we would
have to things at that level with infra.



Seeing that other ASF projects had these statuses in play I took a quick
search across these projects and was able to find one INFRA ticket that was
very similar : http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1659.  This being
the case, I suspect it would just be a matter of Ofbiz consensus and the
right person cutting the INFRA ticket.  My guess is that David Jones likely
setup our ASF JIRA project and is likely our JIRA admin?  (I seem to recall
reading something that suggested a project could have two admins; but I do
not recall).
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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3333) Issues with EntitySync


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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-:


Hans,

First some things are worth to be said, in the following
* it leans on a simple POS/MCS configuration (or client/server which is 
actually the same)
* the jobs (push and pull) are scheduled and running on the client only

There are actually several knows issues:

# Syncing stay in running status though the related job "crashed". For instance 
if an issue occurs (eg, in order of possible apparition: net crash, power 
outage on the POS, or server crash for any reason, etc.). This is a small 
issue, and I'm not even quite sure it's a design flaw, but it's rather really 
designed this way (to keep things under control). Note that I did not design 
nor wrote the EntitySunc stuff, so it's only an hypohesis.
** I still wonder if we should really automate the clearing of the running 
state (put the status to not startged) when an issue occured, like Pankaj Jain 
suggested. 
*** This because there is already the "Reset run status" from webtools -> 
entity sync status for doing it manyually, so and I don't see the point to 
reboot the client for that. And I prefer to keep a hand on that. 
*** Else if really needed we could use the underlying 
resetEntitySyncStatusToNotStarted service. But we should really take care of 
not firing several push or pull jobs. Because by default the jobs are scheduled 
to run respectively every 5 minutes and each hour. I suspect the other issues 
Pankaj  reported ("An instance is already running", "Connection refused") could 
be related to this... Also not sure, but it seems it's more a problem on the 
client side than for the server, ie more a problem for the push job.
# Some entities miss in the pull syncing. According to Deyan Tsvetanov, this 
might also appear during an interruption. This would be really more annoying 
and Deyan makes good propositions. But it seems Pankaj never crossed this issue 
and I did not neither so far: to be clarified.
# RMI is slow. I think everybody agree on that, but this clearly needs more work
# Pankaj crossed an issue with EECAs. IMO EECAs are delicate beasts and should 
be carefully used, but it might be an issue indeed. The idea is to avoid having 
duplicated creation on the other end if an EECA is already creating a new 
entity on one end. So the EECA should be only on one end.

This is a 1st effort trying to clarify the situation. I hope we can all 
cooperate on this and end with a common and shared solution.

> Issues with EntitySync
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: framework, specialpurpose/pos
>Reporter: Jacques Le Roux
>Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
>
> This is an umbrella task to groups all issues related to the synchronization 
> process.
> A subtask will be created for each identified issue.
> I selected framework and POS as affected components, because for the moment 
> the synchronization process is mostly used to sync POS terminals. But it 
> could be used for other needs.

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Re: Use of JIRA Resolved status

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Ruppert

Seems like something that would make things clearer so probably not a bad way 
to go.  If there was a way to see from the attachments that we had an upload 
already, I'd probably go for that - but in the absence, the additional status 
seems like a reasonable request to me.  +1

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Bob Morley wrote:

> 
> 
> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>> 
>> I think it makes sense to have some way of distinguishing issues that have
>> been filed from ones that have been filed and fix is provided - but I'm
>> not sure about adding additional statuses to the workflow.  Normally I'd
>> totally agree (I've coded many workflows and creating custom statuses in
>> JIRA and it's really powerful) - but I'm not sure how much access we would
>> have to things at that level with infra.
>> 
> 
> Seeing that other ASF projects had these statuses in play I took a quick
> search across these projects and was able to find one INFRA ticket that was
> very similar : http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1659.  This being
> the case, I suspect it would just be a matter of Ofbiz consensus and the
> right person cutting the INFRA ticket.  My guess is that David Jones likely
> setup our ASF JIRA project and is likely our JIRA admin?  (I seem to recall
> reading something that suggested a project could have two admins; but I do
> not recall).
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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-3633) Minimum order quantity

2010-04-02 Thread Deepak Dixit (JIRA)


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Deepak Dixit updated OFBIZ-3633:


Attachment: OFBIZ-3633.patch

Here is the patch for describe functionality.
I have added data for product id WG-5569.

Thanks to Rishi Solanki.

> Minimum order quantity
> --
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3633
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
>Reporter: Rishi Solanki
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3633.patch
>
>
> It will work as follows;
> We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
> ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order 
> quantity of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
> Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
> have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
> $100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.
> To achieve the above ;
> write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
> itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
> the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
> then minimum.

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[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-3633) Minimum order quantity

Minimum order quantity
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 Key: OFBIZ-3633
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3633
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: order, specialpurpose/ecommerce
Reporter: Rishi Solanki
 Fix For: SVN trunk


It will work as follows;
We will set the special type price as 'MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE' for a Product in 
ProductPrice entity. On the basis of it we will get the minimum order quantity 
of the product on the basis of this price and sale price.
Will get the minimum order quantity for product by division. For example we 
have selling price of product P1 is $10.00 and its MINIMUM_ORDER_PRICE is 
$100.00 then minimum order quantity for the product will be --> 100/10 ==> 10.

To achieve the above ;
write a getMinimumOrderQuantity() method in ShoppingCart.java which takes the 
itemBasePrice and productId as in parameter, and call it where we add, update 
the cart items and change the quantity to minmumOrderQuantity if it is less 
then minimum.


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Apachecon once again

2010-04-02 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES


Hi all,

so I'm coming back on this subject, but as it is said here
(https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apachecon_na_2010_business_community), 
the conference call is over at the end of the month.


so, are we making an OFBiz symposium ? Or an OFBiz camp ?

Cheers,

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www.nereide.biz

Re: squareFootage with decimals


Jacopo,

Actually yes, it takes some time to follow the deprecated pattern. But it's not 
so huge if you have well understood what to do. It's
well documented but you have to get through one time to understand it well. So 
I'm not sure we should give up. Notably on
deprecating fields or/and Entities. The only piece we could possibly neglict is 
IMO the service part (it's the longer part). If we
provide a simple SQL script I think it's enough for people to at least infer 
what to do on their own DB(s).

Jacques

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" 

In rev. 930182 I have created also the upgrade script to migrate data from old 
to new fields.

By the way, are we sure it is a good idea for the project to enforce these 
rules about backward compatibility?
It seems to me that the development in OFBiz is becoming more difficult every 
day and this is self evident from this small
improvement that has caused a rather long thread.

We are worried about causing harm to an hypothetical group of end users that, 
we suppose, don't follow the dev lists, don't have
any internal IT team that can help them in the migration, don't have a budget 
for the upgrade, don't understand about the risks of
upgrading a production ERP instance and just want to do this by blindly 
pressing a button.
We are sacrificing the very limited time of our brave committers against this 
"myth". In my opinion we just went too far, the risk
is that we go into the mud and slow down because this plan is not compatible 
with the resources of our community. There is also
the risk that we are trying to fix a problem that is not there: chances are 
that the silent end users have very good budgets, very
skilled IT teams that have greatly customized their OFBiz and simple just want 
to take care of the critical system upgrade on
their own.

So I would like to propose a change in our 'policies' to switch from "backward 
compatibility" to "backward awareness" based on the
following principles:
1) committers are encouraged to improve existing code, clean it up, improve 
data model etc... even if the changes could cause some
problems during upgrade; OFBiz has to grow efficiently in the best way possible 
considering the limited group of contributors
2) however, since we know that there are companies that are willing to stay up 
to date with the OFBiz growth but don't want to
invest resources in the upgrade process or staying in synch with the community, 
then we will do our best to simplify the upgrade
path; this means that, if time permits, committers are encouraged to apply the 
deprecation patterns (for bigger and more critical
changes), or at least write some notes to warn people about the change occurred 
that could impact an upgrade etc...
3) we should also send the message out (from our site, mailing lists etc) to 
the silent end users that, if they are in the process
of upgrading from an older release they should at least mention this in the 
user list: in this way the community will have a
chance to provide suggestions, warn about potential issues, etc and most of all 
this will help the community of end users to test
together and cooperate on upgrade scripts

What do you think?

Jacopo


On Apr 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Actually I did not read enough at
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/General+Entity+Overview#GeneralEntityOverview-DeprecatedEntities

It's now done the right way (at least I hope so) at r929912

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Ha, I thought it would work in any DBMS, though the syntax may vary.
I did not find a clear answer about that through Google. And as I saw a rename 
used in the migration tip for R767278, I thought
it
was OK to use without dropping.

So I will re-re-do it the traditionnal way :/

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" 

If you rename the column you would have to do an alter to change the data type 
on that existing column with data in it, which
may
not work in all databases.

-David


On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Hi Jacopo,

Did you try the migration tip?
I found
ALTER TABLE facility RENAME COLUMN square_footage TO facility_size;
to work on my postgres intances

Jacques

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" 

Hi Jacques,

On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Done at r929503, see also
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Revisions+Requiring+Data+Migration



after the upgrade OFBiz will automatically add the two new fields and will 
leave the old one (containing data) in place.
For this reason the data migration instructions should not suggest to manually 
alter that field but instead they should
suggest
to:
1) copy data ("update...") from square_footage to facility_size, setting the default 
value of "square feet" in the
facilitySizeUomId field
2) drop the square_footage field

Jacopo


Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

OK, I will revert now and introduces the 2 fields as suggested tomorrow (in 
case somebody has another idea)
Jacques
David E

[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-3631) Badly formed from-field values (mis-matched curly braces)

2010-04-02 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES (JIRA)


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Erwan de FERRIERES closed OFBIZ-3631.
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   Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: SVN trunk

Done at rev 930202, thanks Bob.


> Badly formed from-field values (mis-matched curly braces)
> -
>
> Key: OFBIZ-3631
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3631
> Project: OFBiz
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: ALL COMPONENTS
>Affects Versions: SVN trunk
>Reporter: Bob Morley
>Assignee: Erwan de FERRIERES
> Fix For: SVN trunk
>
> Attachments: OFBIZ-3631_FixMismatchedBracets.patch, 
> OFBIZ-3631_FixMismatchedBracets_Accounting.patch
>
>
> We were doing a scan of the Screen/Form xml files looking for badly formed 
> usage of ${} in form-field (and others).  Can across a number of examples 
> where there is only a trailing ending brace '}' which looks wrong.
> If you do a regular expression search across xml files in the project using 
> "[^"{]*} you should be able to find a number of these issues.

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Re: svn commit: r930182 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml servicedef/services_upgrade.xml

2010-04-02 Thread Jacopo Cappellato


On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Thanks Jacopo,
> 
> Is it mandatory to create a such service?

It is not mandatory of course... and I am pretty sure that my migration service 
will not be used much. By the way I have expressed my opinion about the current 
trend in another message.

Kind regards,

Jacopo

> It was not obvious for me reading the previous commits in the migration page 
> as their were not referring to any services. Then I thought it was a 
> deprecated use.
> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: 
>> Author: jacopoc
>> Date: Fri Apr  2 08:22:17 2010
>> New Revision: 930182
>> 
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930182&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Implemented upgrade script for deprecated field Facility.squareFootage
>> 
>> Modified:
>>   
>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
>>   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml
>> 
>> Modified: 
>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
>> URL: 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml?rev=930182&r1=930181&r2=930182&view=diff
>> ==
>> --- 
>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
>>  (original)
>> +++ 
>> ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
>>  Fri Apr  2 08:22:17 2010
>> @@ -45,4 +45,15 @@ under the License.
>>
>>
>> 
>> +> short-description="Migrate Data From from Facility.oldSquareFootage to 
>> Facility.facilitySize">
>> +
>> +
>> +
>> +> from-field="facility.oldSquareFootage"/>
>> +
>> +
>> +
>> +
>> +
>> +
>> 
>> \ No newline at end of file
>> 
>> Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml
>> URL: 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml?rev=930182&r1=930181&r2=930182&view=diff
>> ==
>> --- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml 
>> (original)
>> +++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml Fri Apr 
>>  2 08:22:17 2010
>> @@ -34,5 +34,12 @@ under the License.
>>party/data/PartyTypeData.xml
>>
>>
>> +> +
>> location="component://product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml" 
>> invoke="migrateFacilitySquareFootage">
>> +
>> +Migrate data from Facility.oldSquareFootage to 
>> Facility.facilitySize.
>> +The field Facility.squareFootageSince has been deprecated since 
>> revision 929912 (2010-04-01)
>> +
>> +
>> 
>> 
>> \ No newline at end of file
>> 
> 
>

Re: squareFootage with decimals

2010-04-02 Thread Jacopo Cappellato

In rev. 930182 I have created also the upgrade script to migrate data from old 
to new fields.

By the way, are we sure it is a good idea for the project to enforce these 
rules about backward compatibility?
It seems to me that the development in OFBiz is becoming more difficult every 
day and this is self evident from this small improvement that has caused a 
rather long thread.

We are worried about causing harm to an hypothetical group of end users that, 
we suppose, don't follow the dev lists, don't have any internal IT team that 
can help them in the migration, don't have a budget for the upgrade, don't 
understand about the risks of upgrading a production ERP instance and just want 
to do this by blindly pressing a button.
We are sacrificing the very limited time of our brave committers against this 
"myth". In my opinion we just went too far, the risk is that we go into the mud 
and slow down because this plan is not compatible with the resources of our 
community. There is also the risk that we are trying to fix a problem that is 
not there: chances are that the silent end users have very good budgets, very 
skilled IT teams that have greatly customized their OFBiz and simple just want 
to take care of the critical system upgrade on their own.

So I would like to propose a change in our 'policies' to switch from "backward 
compatibility" to "backward awareness" based on the following principles:
1) committers are encouraged to improve existing code, clean it up, improve 
data model etc... even if the changes could cause some problems during upgrade; 
OFBiz has to grow efficiently in the best way possible considering the limited 
group of contributors
2) however, since we know that there are companies that are willing to stay up 
to date with the OFBiz growth but don't want to invest resources in the upgrade 
process or staying in synch with the community, then we will do our best to 
simplify the upgrade path; this means that, if time permits, committers are 
encouraged to apply the deprecation patterns (for bigger and more critical 
changes), or at least write some notes to warn people about the change occurred 
that could impact an upgrade etc...
3) we should also send the message out (from our site, mailing lists etc) to 
the silent end users that, if they are in the process of upgrading from an 
older release they should at least mention this in the user list: in this way 
the community will have a chance to provide suggestions, warn about potential 
issues, etc and most of all this will help the community of end users to test 
together and cooperate on upgrade scripts

What do you think?

Jacopo

On Apr 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

> Actually I did not read enough at 
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/General+Entity+Overview#GeneralEntityOverview-DeprecatedEntities
> 
> It's now done the right way (at least I hope so) at r929912
> 
> Jacques
> 
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" 
>> Ha, I thought it would work in any DBMS, though the syntax may vary.
>> I did not find a clear answer about that through Google. And as I saw a 
>> rename used in the migration tip for R767278, I thought it
>> was OK to use without dropping.
>> 
>> So I will re-re-do it the traditionnal way :/
>> 
>> Jacques
>> 
>> From: "David E Jones" 
>>> If you rename the column you would have to do an alter to change the data 
>>> type on that existing column with data in it, which may
>>> not work in all databases.
>>> 
>>> -David
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jacopo,

 Did you try the migration tip?
 I found
 ALTER TABLE facility RENAME COLUMN square_footage TO facility_size;
 to work on my postgres intances

 Jacques

 From: "Jacopo Cappellato" 
> Hi Jacques,
> 
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> 
>> Done at r929503, see also
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Revisions+Requiring+Data+Migration
>> 
> 
> after the upgrade OFBiz will automatically add the two new fields and 
> will leave the old one (containing data) in place.
> For this reason the data migration instructions should not suggest to 
> manually alter that field but instead they should suggest
> to:
> 1) copy data ("update...") from square_footage to facility_size, setting 
> the default value of "square feet" in the
> facilitySizeUomId field
> 2) drop the square_footage field
> 
> Jacopo
> 
>> Jacques
>> 
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" 
>>> OK, I will revert now and introduces the 2 fields as suggested tomorrow 
>>> (in case somebody has another idea)
>>> Jacques
>>> David E Jones wrote:
 I just checked and I messed up... there isn't a UOM field that goes 
 with the squareFootage field.
 That being the case, I propose we add a couple of generic fields 
 (facilitySize as a flo

Re: svn commit: r930182 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml servicedef/services_upgrade.xml


Thanks Jacopo,

Is it mandatory to create a such service? It was not obvious for me reading the previous commits in the migration page as their were 
not referring to any services. Then I thought it was a deprecated use.


Jacques

From: 

Author: jacopoc
Date: Fri Apr  2 08:22:17 2010
New Revision: 930182

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=930182&view=rev
Log:
Implemented upgrade script for deprecated field Facility.squareFootage

Modified:
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml

Modified: 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml?rev=930182&r1=930181&r2=930182&view=diff

==
--- 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml 
(original)
+++ 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/script/org/ofbiz/product/UpgradeServices.xml 
Fri Apr  2 08:22:17 2010
@@ -45,4 +45,15 @@ under the License.



+

+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+

\ No newline at end of file

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml?rev=930182&r1=930181&r2=930182&view=diff

==
--- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/servicedef/services_upgrade.xml Fri Apr  2 
08:22:17 2010
@@ -34,5 +34,12 @@ under the License.
party/data/PartyTypeData.xml


+
+
+Migrate data from Facility.oldSquareFootage to 
Facility.facilitySize.
+The field Facility.squareFootageSince has been deprecated since 
revision 929912 (2010-04-01)
+
+


\ No newline at end of file

Re: multi-threaded EntityDataLoadContainer and SequenceUtil

From: "Adrian Crum" 

--- On Thu, 4/1/10, Jacques Le Roux  wrote:

> Adam Heath wrote:
>> So each entity creation itself was a separate work
unit. Once an
>> entity was created, you could submit the primary
key creation as well.
>> That's simple enough to implement(in theory,
anyways). This design
>> is starting to go towards the Sandstorm(1)
approach.
>
> I just looked at that site briefly. You're right - my
thinking was a lot like that. Split up the work with queues
- in other words, use the provider/consumer pattern.
>
> If I was designing a product like OFBiz, I would have
JMS at the front end. Each request gets packaged up into a
JMS message and submitted to a queue. Different tasks
respond to the queued messages. The last task is writing the
response. The app server's request thread returns almost
immediately. Each queue/task could be optimized.

This makes remind me that it's mostly what is used
underneath in something like ServiceMix or Mule (ESBs).
ServiceMix is Based on the JBI concept 
http://servicemix.apache.org/what-is-jbi.html
and uses http://activemq.apache.org/ underneath

Actually, the goals and designs are quite different. The goal of ESB is to have a standards-based message bus so that applications 
from different vendors can inter-operate. The goal of SEDA (Adam's link) is to use queues to provide uniform response time in 
servers and allow their services to degrade gracefully under load.

Yes, I saw that. It's only that it reminded me the matter of queues use also in 
ESBs.

My idea of using JMS is for overload control. Each queue can be serviced by any number of servers (since JMS uses JNDI). In 
effect, the application itself becomes a crude load balancer.

I see

Jacques

-Adrian

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-3333) Issues with EntitySync