Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
Excellent. I can come up with a design improvement comp to get started. What do you all think about the idea of switching around the search areas? It is a user interface thing. Thanks E On 1/18/2011 11:48 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: Any help would be appreciated! Just create a Jira issue and upload your images/patches there. I've been applying little tweaks here and there, but I'm no artist - so I would feel more comfortable with an artist making the changes instead of me. -Adrian On 1/18/2011 9:27 AM, Erik Schuessler wrote: This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up the look and feel. One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search area. It seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable bar over a side menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog browse is more useful to me over some of the advanced search options. Granted, the main search is very useful so it gets priority, however the but all of the advanced searches are not. I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two bits. Thanks Erik One issue that I would like to see change is to move the On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have now the choice. It's ok with me Jacques Ryan Foster wrote: I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the task was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not look at any other themes as examples, I simply focused on how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task. I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every other active OFBiz developer does. But for the average user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone, and one theme and then never touch this section again. Also, for a developer deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set these preferences globally across the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections. In that case, it becomes much easier for them because they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect anything else at all. Ryan L. Foster 801.671.0769 cont...@ryanlfoster.com ryanlfoster.com On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: Ryan Foster wrote: That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me to have theme selection and language in the header, but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the application links in the header and the other half in the footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the applications are now grouped together in the header, and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped together in the footer. That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
+1
Cheers,
Ruppert
On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Erik Schuessler wrote:
Excellent. I can come up with a design improvement comp to get started.
What do you all think about the idea of switching around the search areas? It
is a user interface thing.
Thanks
E
On 1/18/2011 11:48 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Any help would be appreciated! Just create a Jira issue and upload your
images/patches there. I've been applying little tweaks here and there, but
I'm no artist - so I would feel more comfortable with an artist making the
changes instead of me.
-Adrian
On 1/18/2011 9:27 AM, Erik Schuessler wrote:
This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up the look
and
feel.
One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search area.
It
seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable bar over a side
menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog browse is more useful to
me
over some of the advanced search options. Granted, the main search is very
useful so it gets priority, however the but all of the advanced searches
are not.
I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two bits.
Thanks
Erik
One issue that I would like to see change is to move the
On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have
now
the choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the
task
was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not
look at
any other themes as examples, I simply focused on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest
amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every
other
active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone,
and
one theme and then never touch this section again. Also, for a developer
deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set
these preferences globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections.
In
that case, it becomes much easier for them because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect
anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to
me
to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of
the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are
grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW
the
time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
--
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*Erik A. Schuessler*
Creative Partner
Street Address:
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX
75226
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TEL: 214.720.0700 e323
MOBILE: 214.893.3514
FAX: 214.893.3514
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Erik A. Schuessler
Creative Partner
Street Address:
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX
75226
www.brainfood.com
TEL: 214.720.0700 e323
MOBILE: 214.893.3514
FAX: 214.893.3514
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Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
Hi Erik,
where can we see your prototipe of what you mean for shitched around search
area?
Did you attach a jpg somewhere?
-Bruno
2011/1/19 Erik Schuessler e...@brainfood.com
Excellent. I can come up with a design improvement comp to get started.
What do you all think about the idea of switching around the search areas?
It is a user interface thing.
Thanks
E
On 1/18/2011 11:48 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Any help would be appreciated! Just create a Jira issue and upload your
images/patches there. I've been applying little tweaks here and there, but
I'm no artist - so I would feel more comfortable with an artist making the
changes instead of me.
-Adrian
On 1/18/2011 9:27 AM, Erik Schuessler wrote:
This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up the look
and
feel.
One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search area.
It
seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable bar over a side
menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog browse is more useful to
me
over some of the advanced search options. Granted, the main search is very
useful so it gets priority, however the but all of the advanced searches
are not.
I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two bits.
Thanks
Erik
One issue that I would like to see change is to move the
On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have
now
the choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the
task
was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not look
at
any other themes as examples, I simply focused on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest
amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every other
active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone,
and
one theme and then never touch this section again. Also, for a developer
deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set
these preferences globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections.
In
that case, it becomes much easier for them because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect
anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me
to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are
grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the
time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)j...@apache.orgj...@apache.org
wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
--
Brainfood - We Think. We're Smart.
*Erik A. Schuessler*
Creative Partner
Street Address:
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX
75226
www.brainfood.comhttp://www.brainfood.com http://www.brainfood.com
TEL: 214.720.0700 e323
MOBILE: 214.893.3514
FAX: 214.893.3514
EMAIL:
e...@brainfood.commaito:e...@brainfood.commaito:e...@brainfood.com
Brainfood - We Think. We're Smart.
--
[image: Brainfood - We Think. We're Smart.]
*Erik A. Schuessler*
Creative Partner
Street Address: 4004 East Side Ave. Dallas, TX 75226
www.brainfood.com TEL: 214.720.0700 e323 MOBILE: 214.893.3514 FAX:
214.893.3514 EMAIL: e...@brainfood.com [image: Brainfood - We Think.
We're Smart.]
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
Title: Brainfood
This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up
the look and feel.
One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search
area. It seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable
bar over a side menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog
browse is more useful to me over some of the advanced search
options. Granted, the main search is very useful so it gets
priority, however the but all of the advanced searches are not.
I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two
bits.
Thanks
Erik
One issue that I would like to see change is to move the
On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer
another theme they have now the choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the
approach. The objective of the task was to update the Flat Grey
theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I
did not look at any other themes as examples, I simply focused
on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the
smallest amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably
every other active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one
time zone, and one theme and then never touch this section
again. Also, for a developer deploying OFBiz across a large
organization, they may even decide to set these preferences
globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these
selections. In that case, it becomes much easier for them
because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not
affect anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to
do. It seemed even more weird to me to have theme selection
and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half
of the application links in the header and the other half in
the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my
opinion. All of the applications are now grouped together
in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are
secondary, are grouped together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's
handled in Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though
because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and
themes... BTW the time zone selection is missing in
Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I
believe he was trying to keep the masthead small so there
is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's
not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
--
Erik
A. Schuessler
Creative Partner
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
Any help would be appreciated! Just create a Jira issue and upload your
images/patches there. I've been applying little tweaks here and there,
but I'm no artist - so I would feel more comfortable with an artist
making the changes instead of me.
-Adrian
On 1/18/2011 9:27 AM, Erik Schuessler wrote:
This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up the look and
feel.
One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search area. It
seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable bar over a side
menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog browse is more useful to me
over some of the advanced search options. Granted, the main search is very
useful so it gets priority, however the but all of the advanced searches are
not.
I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two bits.
Thanks
Erik
One issue that I would like to see change is to move the
On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have now
the choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the task
was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not look at
any other themes as examples, I simply focused on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest
amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every other
active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone, and
one theme and then never touch this section again. Also, for a developer
deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set
these preferences globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections. In
that case, it becomes much easier for them because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect
anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me
to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the
time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
--
Brainfood - We Think. We're Smart.
*Erik A. Schuessler*
Creative Partner
Street Address:
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX
75226
www.brainfood.comhttp://www.brainfood.com
TEL:214.720.0700 e323
MOBILE: 214.893.3514
FAX:214.893.3514
EMAIL: e...@brainfood.commaito:e...@brainfood.com
Brainfood - We Think. We're Smart.
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
BrainfoodErik,
You should better comment an attach in the Jira issue. Attachments don't get
through at Apache
Jacques
- Original Message -
From: Erik Schuessler
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented:
(OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade
gracefully)
This is a nice clean theme. I am happy to help out on polishing up the look
and feel.
One thing that has always bugged me for user interface is the search area. It
seems like we could modify the search area as an expandable bar over a side
menu, when I have used the back end, the catalog browse is more useful to me
over some of the advanced search options. Granted, the main search is very
useful so it gets priority, however the but all of the advanced searches are
not.
I have attached a picture of what I am talking about. Just my two bits.
Thanks
Erik
One issue that I would like to see change is to move the
On 1/17/2011 4:41 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have now
the choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the
task was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not
look at any other themes as examples, I simply focused on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest
amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every
other active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone,
and one theme and then never touch this section again. Also, for a developer
deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set these
preferences globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections.
In that case, it becomes much easier for them because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect
anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird
to me to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of
the applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are
grouped together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW
the time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org
wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
--
Erik A. Schuessler
Creative Partner
Street Address:
4004 East Side Ave.
Dallas, TX
75226
www.brainfood.com
TEL: 214.720.0700 e323
MOBILE: 214.893.3514
FAX: 214.893.3514
EMAIL: e...@brainfood.com
Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the masthead
small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me to
have theme selection and language in the header, but have timezone selection in
the footer and to have half of the application links in the header and the
other half in the footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion.
All of the applications are now grouped together in the header, and all of the
user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped together in the
footer.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the masthead
small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me to
have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the application
links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because for
testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the masthead
small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
Jacques,
If you're asking why JavaScript isn't used to create user preference
drop-down menus, then the answer is in the Design Objectives listed in
the Jira issue.
-Adrian
On 1/17/2011 10:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to
me to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of
the applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are
grouped together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because for testing
purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone
selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme
No no, only why those information are in the footer when they are in the header for all other themes (also see my comment about time
zone missing)
Jacques
Adrian Crum wrote:
Jacques,
If you're asking why JavaScript isn't used to create user preference
drop-down menus, then the answer is in the Design Objectives listed in
the Jira issue.
-Adrian
On 1/17/2011 10:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to
me to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of
the applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are
grouped together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because for testing
purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone
selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the
masthead small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the task
was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I approached the design as a realign
rather than a redesign. I did not look at any other themes as examples, I
simply focused on how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make
the smallest amount of CSS and markup changes possible in order to achieve the
objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every other
active OFBiz developer does. But for the average user, the vast majority are
going to select one language, one time zone, and one theme and then never touch
this section again. Also, for a developer deploying OFBiz across a large
organization, they may even decide to set these preferences globally across the
entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections. In that
case, it becomes much easier for them because they can simply disable the
footer in the theme and it does not affect anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me
to have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the
application links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in
Tomahawk for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because for testing purpose
I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone selection is
missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the masthead
small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
Re: Updated Flat Grey Visual Theme (was: [jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4120) Umbrella task for features which use javascript to degrade gracefully)
Yes that makes sense. And anyway if they prefer another theme they have now the
choice. It's ok with me
Jacques
Ryan Foster wrote:
I guess it really just comes down to the approach. The objective of the task
was to update the Flat Grey theme. So, I
approached the design as a realign rather than a redesign. I did not look at
any other themes as examples, I simply focused on
how Flat Grey looked and functioned and then tried to make the smallest amount
of CSS and markup changes possible in order to
achieve the objective and stay with the scope of the task.
I understand your bias, because I have it as well, as probably every other
active OFBiz developer does. But for the average
user, the vast majority are going to select one language, one time zone, and one theme and then never touch this section again.
Also, for a developer deploying OFBiz across a large organization, they may even decide to set these preferences globally across
the entire organization and not allow the user to have these selections. In
that case, it becomes much easier for them because
they can simply disable the footer in the theme and it does not affect anything else at all.
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ryan Foster wrote:
That was exactly what I was trying to do. It seemed even more weird to me to
have theme selection and language in the header,
but have timezone selection in the footer and to have half of the application
links in the header and the other half in the
footer. The new grouping is much more logical in my opinion. All of the
applications are now grouped together in the header,
and all of the user preference selections, which are secondary, are grouped
together in the footer.
That was true for the old Flat Grey but what about how it's handled in Tomahawk
for instance. Maybe I'm biased though because
for testing purpose I'm always switching languages and themes... BTW the time zone selection is missing in Tomahawk...
Jacques
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com
ryanlfoster.com
On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:30 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
Ryan can answer that question. I believe he was trying to keep the masthead
small so there is more room for the main content.
-Adrian
--- On Mon, 1/17/11, Jacques Le Roux (JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
Also I asked
{quote}
BTW I was surprised that Ryan and you put the access to
preferences and languages features in the footer. It's not
always visible and seems a bit weird to me
{quote}
Any answers? ;)
