Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Hi Rony,

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi there,

just wanted to report that the genuine OOo 2.1 can be invoked via Java
from the command line, whereas the Ubuntu version cannot.

Did remove the genuine OOo 2.1 and re-installed the Ubuntu OOo 2.0.4
version (the latest they have). The Ubuntu version places the binaries
into /usr/lib/openoffice/program and the Java support to
/usr/share/java/openoffice. Setting CLASSPATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH+PATH
to their respective settings does throw a
com.sun.star.comp.helper.BootstrapException (bootstrap cannot find
office executable).

Could it be that they have no test case for running OOo from the
commandline using Java ? Could that really be the case?? Or is there
something that I might still oversee, which is important for the Ubuntu
version but not for the genuine OOo distribution?

Regards,


the problem is quite simple. The Ubuntu guys install OpenOffice or part 
of it in a way which is not supported in all cases. For example the Java 
UNO bootstrap mechanism depends on a specific layout (directory 
structure, Stephan has pointed out earlier).
And yes i agree that they probably don't test it at all. For some 
distributions (we had this problem before with Debian as well) it is 
enough when OO.org started and the UI appears correctly. You should 
submit an issue to Ubuntu and communicate the problem there.


Juergen




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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi,
 these were the required jar files suggested by netbeans: (i noticed
 you didnt mention  jut.jar in the comments of your code)

 juh.jar
 jurt.jar
 jut.jar
 officebean.jar
 ridl.jar
 unoil.jar
Thank you for this list, will look into it!

---

Ad your environment: it seems that you have the OOo SDK (and NetBeans)
at your disposal. The successful run from a packaged jar-file is
interesting: if possible, could you supply the jar as well your
environment settings in the command line window in which you are able to
run the app successfully?

See, I would like to learn what is needed for an out-of-the-box Ubuntu
OOo installation to be employed to run Java apps from the command line.
(Here SDK/NetBeans/Eclipse setups can come into ones way as it is then
not always clear which environment is in effect under which circumstances.)

TIA,

---rony

P.S.: Will be a week off (practically without e-mail or WWW access), so
I may be able to come back only in a week or so.


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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi,
 these were the required jar files suggested by netbeans:  (i noticed
 you didnt mention  jut.jar in the comments of your code)

 juh.jar
 jurt.jar
 jut.jar
 officebean.jar
 ridl.jar
 unoil.jar
One last remark: it is likely that your pacakge works because of
officebean.jar.

But I would not want to be dependent on this jar-file as it mandates the
usage of OOo.

The solution should be genuine such that only the Java-UNO-interface is
necessary (mostly acquiring the OOo components, but since URE has been
existing, the solution should be standard), as is the case with the
genuine OOo installation from the OOo web site.

Or with other words: you should be able to execute the compiled Java
class from the commandline by issuing java helloworld. If you can make
this work with the Ubuntu OOo installation, then I would be very
thankful, if you could share the environment setting of that command
line window.

Regards,

---rony


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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread ashok _

I tried executing the attached jar file on another ubuntu edgy  box
WITHOUT netbeans or the OO sdk...with just OO2.04 (the standard Ubuntu
openoffice installation) installed, it works perfectly, if i do either
: java -jar helloworld.jar or if do a launch with JVM from the Gnome
file manager...

the environment settings are that of an out of the box ubuntu edgy install



Ad your environment: it seems that you have the OOo SDK (and NetBeans)
at your disposal. The successful run from a packaged jar-file is
interesting: if possible, could you supply the jar as well your
environment settings in the command line window in which you are able to
run the app successfully?


As you can see my development box has a different setup, and the test
box has the standard ubuntu setup it works fine in both


See, I would like to learn what is needed for an out-of-the-box Ubuntu
OOo installation to be employed to run Java apps from the command line.
(Here SDK/NetBeans/Eclipse setups can come into ones way as it is then
not always clear which environment is in effect under which circumstances.)



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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread ashok _

In fact... officebean.jar is not required for the helloworld appit
was suggested by the netbeans wizard, but it will work without it

On 2/5/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One last remark: it is likely that your pacakge works because of
officebean.jar.

But I would not want to be dependent on this jar-file as it mandates the
usage of OOo.



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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi,
 In fact... officebean.jar is not required for the helloworld appit
 was suggested by the netbeans wizard, but it will work without it
That is very interesting!

Could you please either send me the jar-file (or its included manifest
file) and the settings of CLASSPATH, PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH (from the
test machine)?

TIA,

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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Jürgen,
 the problem is quite simple. The Ubuntu guys install OpenOffice or
 part of it in a way which is not supported in all cases. For example
 the Java UNO bootstrap mechanism depends on a specific layout
 (directory structure, Stephan has pointed out earlier).
 And yes i agree that they probably don't test it at all. For some
 distributions (we had this problem before with Debian as well) it is
 enough when OO.org started and the UI appears correctly. You should
 submit an issue to Ubuntu and communicate the problem there.
O.K., will have a week's time (off-line) to look into this further to be
sure that it is really them.

It seems however that ashok_ somehow is able to run the test program
from a jar (but am not sure why and how yet).

Regards,

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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi,

In fact... officebean.jar is not required for the helloworld appit
was suggested by the netbeans wizard, but it will work without it

That is very interesting!

Could you please either send me the jar-file (or its included manifest
file) and the settings of CLASSPATH, PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH (from the
test machine)?


please stop the puzzling of arbitrary bits and bytes without the 
background knowledge. The next one use it a little bit different and it 
won't work again.


Always take a clean OO.org installation from the web side or an correct 
installed/deployed OO.org version from a distribution.


If you want to run a simply client application using the simple 
bootstrap mechanism you have to package the bootstrap helper class files 
and the winreg.dll (for real platform independence) with your 
application jar file and have to adapt the manifest file accordingly.


The NetBeans integration client wizard do exactly that. It simply 
package a correct jar file for a simple client application, nothing 
more. Ok, the wizard generates the bootstrap call in the main function, 
but that's it.
The bootstrap mechanism creates an own classloader with the necessary 
settings and instantiate the original main class with this new 
classloader. The default office is searched on the system and depending 
on the directory structure the necessary jar, executables ... are found 
and started. The office gets started and the client communicate over a 
named pipe connection with the office.


By using this mechanism you don't need a classpath or LD_LIBRARY_PATH. 
simply start your application with java -jar HelloWorld.jar.


Searching the default office is sometimes a little bit tricky. On 
windows we use the winreg.dll to read from the registry directly and on 
the Unix systems we searched in /usr/bin/ for the correct link (can't 
remember the exact search algorithm)


The bootstrap mechanism won't work when you copy the UNO jars form an 
office installation to somewhere else or when you deploy them with your 
application. Copy the jars make only sense when you want to connect to 
an office on a different machine and in this case you bootstrap a little 
bit different.


I agree that it is not 100% optimal and in an ideal world we would have 
the URE available in the system and the office would register all 
services there. We will see what we can provide in the future.


Juergen




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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread ashok _

i have sent you the project with the build scripts offlist...

but you dont need things like ld_library_path for the jar deploymet to
work... there is an installationfinder  loader packaged within the
jar which locates the openoffice installation and other arbitary paths
automatically which i why i was suggesting that you use the
netbeans plugin to build your project... it generates the neccessary
ant scripts ...

On 2/5/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could you please either send me the jar-file (or its included manifest
file) and the settings of CLASSPATH, PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH (from the
test machine)?

TIA,

---rony


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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Watson

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

See, I would like to learn what is needed for an out-of-the-box Ubuntu
OOo installation to be employed to run Java apps from the command line.
(Here SDK/NetBeans/Eclipse setups can come into ones way as it is then
not always clear which environment is in effect under which circumstances.)
  


Not using ubuntu, but I am interested in the environment variables too 
so I tried this on Mac OS, using no IDE and outside SDK.


These look like the minimal necessary steps. I did it using ant but 
there is nothing special in the build.xml file, so this should give 
enough clues for using a makefile or simple command line.


(a) make some directory, it could be anywhere but I used ~/test

(b) copy into ~/test the ant mybuild.xml file from 
SDK/examples/DevelopersGuide/FirstSteps/build_FirstUnoContact.xml


(c) put your java class file into ~/test. I used the mentioned 
CreateTextDocument.java but the contained class has to be made public


(d)in the mybuild.xml file replace all FirstUnoContact by 
CreateTextDocument


(e) copy the SDK/classes folder into ~/test
Some of the files in here are needed for the bootstrap loader

(f) the following environment variables may vary, these are only needed 
for the mybuild.xml file

OO_SDK_HOME=~/test where we put everything
OFFICE_HOME= the path above program/soffice

(g) the following environment seems to be sufficient in any case, maybe 
not all necessary...

UNO_PATH=$OFFICE_HOME/program
OFFICE_PROGRAM_PATH=$OFFICE_HOME/program
DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=$OFFICE_HOME/program:.:

Then at the command line
ant -f mybuild.xml

And it runs, no IDE, no SDK.


jim

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[dev] Next .... (Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there,

thanks to everyone, I was not aware of special needs to find OOo. Ashok
was kind enough to send me his jar file, and its content is:
Archive:  helloworld.jar
testing: META-INF/OK
testing: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF OK
testing: org/ OK
testing: org/openoffice/  OK
testing: org/openoffice/helloworld/   OK
testing: org/openoffice/helloworld/helloworld.class   OK
testing: com/ OK
testing: com/sun/ OK
testing: com/sun/star/OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/   OK
testing:
com/sun/star/lib/loader/InstallationFinder$StreamGobbler.class   OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/InstallationFinder.class   OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/Loader$CustomURLClassLoader.class   OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/Loader.class   OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/WinRegKey.class   OK
testing: com/sun/star/lib/loader/WinRegKeyException.class   OK
testing: win/ OK
testing: win/unowinreg.dllOK
No errors detected in compressed data of helloworld.jar.

This matches Jürgen's explanations.

However, *where* would one find the com.sun.star.lib.loader. package?
(Just did a grep over OOHome/program/classes, but none of those
deployed jar would contain a class by that name.)

Regards,

---rony



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Re: [dev] Next .... (Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Watson

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

However, *where* would one find the com.sun.star.lib.loader. package?

Look in the SDK/classes directory...

Get the SDK at api.openoffice.org

jim

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[dev] SDK-only Java libs? (Re: [dev] Next .... (Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi Jim,
 However, *where* would one find the com.sun.star.lib.loader. package?
 Look in the SDK/classes directory...

 Get the SDK at api.openoffice.org
Oh, I see. Was not aware of that at all.

But this would mean that one cannot reliably deploy Java applications
from the command line without that supporting library?

If so, why not supply it with the general installation of OOo (putting
that library into OOoXYZ/classes directory? It seems to me that that
would be the appropriate place, which everyone then could rely to find it.

Or with other words, distribute that jar as you distribute the juh.jar etc.

---

And being there, why not fold juh.jar, etc. into *one* jar only?

Regards,

---rony




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Re: [dev] SDK-only Java libs? (Re: [dev] Next .... (Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there,

just a stupid question: why doesn't the Bootstrap helper class use the
com.sun.star.lib.loader. knowing the important role of that library to
find the OO executable ?

Regards,

---rony


 However, *where* would one find the com.sun.star.lib.loader. package?
   
 Look in the SDK/classes directory...

 Get the SDK at api.openoffice.org
 
 Oh, I see. Was not aware of that at all.

 But this would mean that one cannot reliably deploy Java applications
 from the command line without that supporting library?

 If so, why not supply it with the general installation of OOo (putting
 that library into OOoXYZ/classes directory? It seems to me that that
 would be the appropriate place, which everyone then could rely to find it.

 Or with other words, distribute that jar as you distribute the juh.jar etc.

 ---

 And being there, why not fold juh.jar, etc. into *one* jar only?

 Regards,

 ---rony


   



Re: [dev] SDK-only Java libs? (Re: [dev] Next .... (Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-05 Thread Stephan Bergmann

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi there,

just a stupid question: why doesn't the Bootstrap helper class use the
com.sun.star.lib.loader. knowing the important role of that library to
find the OO executable ?


See http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66050 for a 
planned improvement in that area.


-Stephan


Regards,

---rony

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[dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-04 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi there,

just wanted to report that the genuine OOo 2.1 can be invoked via Java
from the command line, whereas the Ubuntu version cannot.

Did remove the genuine OOo 2.1 and re-installed the Ubuntu OOo 2.0.4
version (the latest they have). The Ubuntu version places the binaries
into /usr/lib/openoffice/program and the Java support to
/usr/share/java/openoffice. Setting CLASSPATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH+PATH
to their respective settings does throw a
com.sun.star.comp.helper.BootstrapException (bootstrap cannot find
office executable).

Could it be that they have no test case for running OOo from the
commandline using Java ? Could that really be the case?? Or is there
something that I might still oversee, which is important for the Ubuntu
version but not for the genuine OOo distribution?

Regards,

---rony


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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-04 Thread ashok _

I am running oOo 2.1 on ubuntu...

I am running the standard jdk 1.5.08 installation... everything works
fine for me.

I noticed that i had to explicitly enable Java in oOo after the
installation, by going to tools-options-java and expicitly selecting
a JVM there

maybe that is the step you are missing?

On 2/4/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

just wanted to report that the genuine OOo 2.1 can be invoked via Java
from the command line, whereas the Ubuntu version cannot.

Did remove the genuine OOo 2.1 and re-installed the Ubuntu OOo 2.0.4
version (the latest they have). The Ubuntu version places the binaries
into /usr/lib/openoffice/program and the Java support to
/usr/share/java/openoffice. Setting CLASSPATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH+PATH
to their respective settings does throw a
com.sun.star.comp.helper.BootstrapException (bootstrap cannot find
office executable).

Could it be that they have no test case for running OOo from the
commandline using Java ? Could that really be the case?? Or is there
something that I might still oversee, which is important for the Ubuntu
version but not for the genuine OOo distribution?

Regards,

---rony


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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-04 Thread ashok _

I noticed you were setting a whole lot of classpaths

i would suggest you get hold of netbeans 6 milestone 5 IDE,  and
install the openoffice development plugin on top of that.  It takes  a
lot of pain out of the openoffice development process.by detecting
and setting up environment variables and so on

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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-04 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
Hi,

ashok _ wrote:
 I am running oOo 2.1 on ubuntu...

 I am running the standard jdk 1.5.08 installation... everything works
 fine for me.

 I noticed that i had to explicitly enable Java in oOo after the
 installation, by going to tools-options-java and expicitly selecting
 a JVM there
 maybe that is the step you are missing?
This seems to be necessary only, if Java is invoked from OpenOffice
itself (either via the scripting framework, or because of using a Java
UNO component, etc.).

If one is using Java from the outside of OOo then that version of Java
is used to drive OOo. One could set up different vesions of Java and use
them to interface with OOo (as a matter of fact I have Java 1.1, 1.2,
1.3, 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 on my machine, using 1.4 through 1.6 when running
against OOo).

---

So the question would be for me whether you are able to compile and run
the enclosed Java program from the *command* line (not NetBeans, Eclipse
etc.) under Ubuntu's OOo? If so, I would be *very* interested in your
environment settings!

TIA,

---rony



CreateTextDocument.java
Description: java/
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Re: [dev] Little update (Re: [dev] Seeking help on Ubuntu 6.10 OOo v. 2.0.4 for starting OOo via Java

2007-02-04 Thread ashok _

Hello Rony:

I used your code to successfully build and execute an openoffice UNO
client application.
(See the attached code).

i executed the jar file from the command line using:
java -jar helloworld.jar
and it launched openoffice writer and wrote the hellow world text into
the editor windwo

I am running ubuntu edgy, openoffice 2.1 , openoffice 2.1 SDK (in
/opt/openoffice.org2.1_sdk), jdk 1.5.08

I built the code using Netbeans (using the openoffice wizard, by
choosing OpenOffice UNO/Client Application as the project option).



On 2/5/07, Rony G. Flatscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

ashok _ wrote:
 I am running oOo 2.1 on ubuntu...

 I am running the standard jdk 1.5.08 installation... everything works
 fine for me.

 I noticed that i had to explicitly enable Java in oOo after the
 installation, by going to tools-options-java and expicitly selecting
 a JVM there
 maybe that is the step you are missing?
This seems to be necessary only, if Java is invoked from OpenOffice
itself (either via the scripting framework, or because of using a Java
UNO component, etc.).

If one is using Java from the outside of OOo then that version of Java
is used to drive OOo. One could set up different vesions of Java and use
them to interface with OOo (as a matter of fact I have Java 1.1, 1.2,
1.3, 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 on my machine, using 1.4 through 1.6 when running
against OOo).

---

So the question would be for me whether you are able to compile and run
the enclosed Java program from the *command* line (not NetBeans, Eclipse
etc.) under Ubuntu's OOo? If so, I would be *very* interested in your
environment settings!

TIA,

---rony



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/*
 * helloworld.java
 *
 * Created on 05.01.2007 - 09:59:46
 *
 */

package org.openoffice.helloworld;

import com.sun.star.uno.XComponentContext;
import com.sun.star.comp.helper.Bootstrap;

/**
 *
 * @author administrator
 */
public class helloworld {

/** Creates a new instance of helloworld */
public helloworld() {
}

/**
 * @param args the command line arguments
 */
public static void main(String[] args) {
try {
// get the remote office component context
XComponentContext xContext = Bootstrap.bootstrap();
com.sun.star.frame.XDesktop xDesktop = null;
com.sun.star.lang.XMultiComponentFactory xMCF = null;


// (2) get the service manager
xMCF = xContext.getServiceManager();
if( xMCF != null ) {
System.out.println(Connected to a running office ...);

// (3) start up an instance of office
Object oDesktop = xMCF.createInstanceWithContext(
com.sun.star.frame.Desktop, xContext);

// (4a) get the XDesktop interface object
xDesktop = (com.sun.star.frame.XDesktop)
com.sun.star.uno.UnoRuntime.queryInterface(
com.sun.star.frame.XDesktop.class, oDesktop);

// (4b) get the desktop's component loader interface object
com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader xComponentLoader =
(com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader)
com.sun.star.uno.UnoRuntime.queryInterface(
com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader.class, xDesktop);

// create an empty text (swriter) document
com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue xEmptyArgs[] = // empty property array
new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue[0];

// (5) create an empty word processor (swriter) component (document)
com.sun.star.lang.XComponent xComponent = 
xComponentLoader.loadComponentFromURL( private:factory/swriter,_blank,
   0, xEmptyArgs);

// (6) get Text interface object and set a text
com.sun.star.text.XTextDocument xTextDocument =
(com.sun.star.text.XTextDocument)
com.sun.star.uno.UnoRuntime.queryInterface(
com.sun.star.text.XTextDocument.class, xComponent);

com.sun.star.text.XText xText = xTextDocument.getText();

// ((com.sun.star.text.XTextRange) xText).setString(Java was here!\r---rgf);
xText.setString(Java was here!\r---rgf);
}



}
catch (java.lang.Exception e){
e.printStackTrace();
}
System.exit( 0 );
}

}
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