Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Benjamin Bouvier]

Like:
- look and feel of the phone itself
- contrarily to other people, i find the touchscreen to work fairly well

Dislike:
- sound: the maximum volume is too damn low! I'm using my FFOS phone
mainly as a music player and even the highest possible volume isn't that
high (not sure if it's due to software or hardware though). Moreover,
there is not much difference between lowest and highest volume (i.e.
amplitude is quite low). That would be the top priority for me.
- camera delay when taking a picture (once more, not sure if hardware or
software). When taking a picture, it sometimes takes up to 1 second
before it is actually taken.

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Felix E. Klee]

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Alexandre Lissy  wrote:
> The second SIM slot only allows for 2G.

The sad thing is that I'm talking about the first SIM slot.
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[enrico . ghiorzi]

Like:
- Look&feel: It could always be better, but overall the Flame is ok. I like it 
to be recognizable as Firefox OS, so some orange is nice, and a logo too.
- Size: it's nice to have a generous screen for emails, etc... But please, not 
bigger than this.
- Dual SIM: needless to say, it is a must!

Dislike:
- Screen is not so great: resolution, viewing angle, fingerprints...
- Connectivity: LTE would be nice in general, even though I don't honestly need 
it.
- Power button: it keeps being pressed when in my pocket, and restarting the 
device.
- Distribution: I had no particular issue with Everbuying, but didn't like it 
that much as well. Buying the phone directly from the new Mozilla Store would 
be so much better!

Other thoughts:
- I like the capacitive home button, but it has been noted that pressing the 
power button to turn on the screen is annoying. Placing the power button on the 
side would maybe solve this issue and the restarting one as well?
- Just to say, what about an OLED screen? Or a matte screen? (Never really 
tried OLED or matte, but they looks interesting...)
- Performances: Firefox OS is lightweight by nature, so performances are not a 
big issue. Though, it would be nice to show your friends this new amazing 
asm.js games (like those in the Mozilla Humble Bundle) running smoothly on your 
Firefox OS phone...
- If the *$&£@*! Amazon had not used the name already, FirePhone would have 
been such a cool name!!!
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Alexandre Lissy]

Le 08/12/2014 14:23, Felix E. Klee a écrit :
> Better reception, please!
> 
> Currently I am in a remote location in [Lanzarote][1], and if I need
> to make an important phone call, then I revert back to my Keon. Also,
> using the same SIM, the Flame only receives 2G while the Keon receives
> 3G.

The second SIM slot only allows for 2G. That's a limitation from the
SoC: it can do upto HSPA+ in single SIM, and HSDPA+EDGE in dual
sim/triple sim configurations.

And whether you only have one SIM card actually does not matter if your
device is a dual SIM.

> 
> [1]: https://www.facebook.com/cyberhippitotalism
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Felix E. Klee]

Better reception, please!

Currently I am in a remote location in [Lanzarote][1], and if I need
to make an important phone call, then I revert back to my Keon. Also,
using the same SIM, the Flame only receives 2G while the Keon receives
3G.

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[mathieu . fer]

Not sure it is linked to hardware or software but for next Flame it would be 
great to get microsdxc support with exFAT.

Today I used a 128gb microsdxc in flame (in FAT32 though) and it works but:
- file size is limited to 4GB (FAT32 limitation) 
- not sure the whole systeme / applications are all that happy with this trick

Thanks



Le samedi 6 décembre 2014 21:45:33 UTC+1, mathi...@gmail.com a écrit :
> One more thing on what I would like on top of that
> 
> (Would be great)
> - USB OTG feature
> 
> (Optional)
> - More Firefox branding: orange color stronger ratio + firefox figure on the 
> back
> => People looking at flame firstly impressed by the slight orange plastics...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Le samedi 6 décembre 2014 21:32:47 UTC+1, mathi...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > Using 3 FXOS phones at home since 6 monthes: 1 ZTE Open C and 2 Flames (1 
> > in latest stable, 1 in latest unstable), quite happy with them
> > 
> > What I like:
> > - Dual SIM: please keep it absolutely 
> > - Multiband capability: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz & UMTS 
> > 850/900/1900/2100MHz, please keep the same amount of features (more is 
> > better of course)
> > - Microsd slot
> > - Bluetooth 4.0 LE (even if not notified anywhere, hardware is compatible)
> > 
> > Note:
> > - Size is the maximum I could accept, do not increase any external dimension
> > 
> > What I do not like:
> > - Camera quality
> > - Screen pixel density and screen viewing angle
> > 
> > What I want for next device (top is most important)
> > - 4G/LTE multiband compatibilty
> > - 1280*720 pixel screen, large viewing angle (& screen could slightly 
> > increase if side margins decrease but it is not really important)
> > - Battery life: 30% more than flame
> > - Camera quality: same amount of pixels but better quality
> > - Price: less than 200$
> > 
> > Even when new device comes, please keep Flame's support as reactive as today
> > 
> > Thanks

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[mathieu . fer]

Le mercredi 12 novembre 2014 22:16:13 UTC+1, Marek Raida a écrit :
> And please colourful LED diode with easy notification API would be really 
> really great!!

Fully agreed, I forgot this one: the LED notification would be a very nice 
bonus indeed
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[mathieu . fer]

One more thing on what I would like on top of that

(Would be great)
- USB OTG feature

(Optional)
- More Firefox branding: orange color stronger ratio + firefox figure on the 
back
=> People looking at flame firstly impressed by the slight orange plastics...

Thanks



Le samedi 6 décembre 2014 21:32:47 UTC+1, mathi...@gmail.com a écrit :
> Using 3 FXOS phones at home since 6 monthes: 1 ZTE Open C and 2 Flames (1 in 
> latest stable, 1 in latest unstable), quite happy with them
> 
> What I like:
> - Dual SIM: please keep it absolutely 
> - Multiband capability: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz & UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz, 
> please keep the same amount of features (more is better of course)
> - Microsd slot
> - Bluetooth 4.0 LE (even if not notified anywhere, hardware is compatible)
> 
> Note:
> - Size is the maximum I could accept, do not increase any external dimension
> 
> What I do not like:
> - Camera quality
> - Screen pixel density and screen viewing angle
> 
> What I want for next device (top is most important)
> - 4G/LTE multiband compatibilty
> - 1280*720 pixel screen, large viewing angle (& screen could slightly 
> increase if side margins decrease but it is not really important)
> - Battery life: 30% more than flame
> - Camera quality: same amount of pixels but better quality
> - Price: less than 200$
> 
> Even when new device comes, please keep Flame's support as reactive as today
> 
> Thanks

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[mathieu . fer]

Using 3 FXOS phones at home since 6 monthes: 1 ZTE Open C and 2 Flames (1 in 
latest stable, 1 in latest unstable), quite happy with them

What I like:
- Dual SIM: please keep it absolutely 
- Multiband capability: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz & UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz, 
please keep the same amount of features (more is better of course)
- Microsd slot
- Bluetooth 4.0 LE (even if not notified anywhere, hardware is compatible)

Note:
- Size is the maximum I could accept, do not increase any external dimension

What I do not like:
- Camera quality
- Screen pixel density and screen viewing angle

What I want for next device (top is most important)
- 4G/LTE multiband compatibilty
- 1280*720 pixel screen, large viewing angle (& screen could slightly increase 
if side margins decrease but it is not really important)
- Battery life: 30% more than flame
- Camera quality: same amount of pixels but better quality
- Price: less than 200$

Even when new device comes, please keep Flame's support as reactive as today

Thanks

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Gabriela Montagu]

Yes! Definitely more orange would be awesome!!!


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On 30 November 2014 at 08:05, Felix E. Klee  wrote:

> The beautifully sculptured orange shell of the Keon made my gf - an
> iPhone user - envious. The Flame OTOH looks a bit too conventional.
>
> At least for me, a developer device should scream Firefox OS!
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[Felix E. Klee]

The beautifully sculptured orange shell of the Keon made my gf - an
iPhone user - envious. The Flame OTOH looks a bit too conventional.

At least for me, a developer device should scream Firefox OS!
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Jan Keromnes]

Likes:
- It's a cool phone to show off Firefox OS.
- Also like the hand-feel.
- Battery can last for days.
- Micro SD and SIM cards nicely positioned (e.g. not under battery).

Dislike:
- No 4G/LTE.
- Charging LED next to camera is scary (mistaken for "camera on").
- Screen resolution way inferior to (cheaper) Moto X.

Top request:
- 4G/LTE please.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Mark Banner  wrote:

> On 13/11/2014 18:29, Asa Dotzler wrote:
>
>> A number of y'all have asked that the next reference phone have a
>> hardware home button.  Can you say more about the value of a hardware
>> button over the capacitive button on the Flame? Or am I misunderstanding
>> this request?
>>
> One thing you can't do with the capacitive button at the moment (unless
> its a firmware fix), is to pick up the phone and turn on the screen.
>
> You currently have to pick up the phone, an awkward shifting of the hand
> so that the fingers can press the power button, and then shifting back
> again to unlock the display.
>
> Having the home button turn the screen on would mean I could just pick up
> the phone and unlock it without shifting the hand around.
>
> Mark.
>
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[Mark Banner]

On 13/11/2014 18:29, Asa Dotzler wrote:
A number of y'all have asked that the next reference phone have a 
hardware home button.  Can you say more about the value of a hardware 
button over the capacitive button on the Flame? Or am I 
misunderstanding this request?
One thing you can't do with the capacitive button at the moment (unless 
its a firmware fix), is to pick up the phone and turn on the screen.


You currently have to pick up the phone, an awkward shifting of the hand 
so that the fingers can press the power button, and then shifting back 
again to unlock the display.


Having the home button turn the screen on would mean I could just pick 
up the phone and unlock it without shifting the hand around.


Mark.



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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Asa Dotzler]

On 11/11/14, 1:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
driver (dogfooding) device.

What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.

- A


A number of y'all have asked that the next reference phone have a 
hardware home button.  Can you say more about the value of a hardware 
button over the capacitive button on the Flame? Or am I misunderstanding 
this request?


- A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Towfique anam]

I don't have flame,actually did not applied for one as I already had a keon, 
one of my junior friends who got a flame after porting app on Firefox 
Marketplace,according to him and as I have used that the touch is not as smooth 
like the keon and actually Keon actually exceeds expectation in most cases then 
Flame.
My suggestion will be the next reference device having same Screen size as 
Geeksphone Keon.

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> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:07 -0800
> From: marek.ra...@gmail.com
> To: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
> Subject: Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements
> 
> And please colourful LED diode with easy notification API would be really 
> really great!!
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Mark Banner]

Mark Banner wrote:
> Dislike:
> - Quality of glass / drop capability. I've unfortunately cracked the screen 
> of one of mine when I fumbled it and dropped it. I'm not sure, but I'd have 
> been confident that my samsung would have survived that.
> - The power button is too easily pressed when in my backpocket. I sit in the 
> car or something and find my flame is buzzing because it's rebooting due to 
> the power button being pressed. Its also too easy to catch at other times.
> - The glass picks up grease too easy and shows up fingerprints etc.
..
> The first three are the biggest issues, I'd be torn as to which of the first 
> two would be the one feature to fix.

I forgot a couple of things - Hardware back and menu buttons.

These might not be quite in the current philosophy, but given the current 
navigational differences and slowness it'd be nice to have (especially coming 
from a phone that has them).

Mark
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Panos Astithas]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Mike Habicher  wrote:

>  - screen quality -- the vertical viewing angle is too tight.
> - touchscreen -- I've noticed that touches and swipes sometimes just don't
> register, and I have to repeat the touch or gesture.
>

These two are the top annoyances for me.
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Alexandre Lissy]

Le 13/11/2014 07:26, Jonas Sicking a écrit :
> On Nov 12, 2014 12:59 AM, "Robert Bîndar"
>> * I suppose this is a hardware issue, It's annoying when I have a
> very poor data connection and others around me have a very good one
> (same provider and the same plan)
> 
> Yes, this is something I *think* I've noticed too.

I do agree: Flame VS Nexus S when running a similar B2G build. Same
provider, same place (a lift): placing a maintaining a call works on the
Nexus S, while the Flame drops during the call.

> 
> / Jonas
> 
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Jonas Sicking]

On Nov 12, 2014 12:59 AM, "Robert Bîndar"
> * I suppose this is a hardware issue, It's annoying when I have a
very poor data connection and others around me have a very good one (same
provider and the same plan)

Yes, this is something I *think* I've noticed too.

/ Jonas
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Eitan Isaacson]

  
  
I would like the phone to be released
  with precise dimension specs that would allow printing a case and
  other accessories for it.
  
  On 11/11/2014 01:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I
  wanted to reach out to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware*
  has worked for you as a daily driver (dogfooding) device.
  
  
  What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it
  comes to using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one*
  hardware feature would you most like to see improved or added in a
  future reference device.
  
  
  I'll start things off.
  
  
  Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the
  plastic.
  
  
  Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
  
  
  Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more
  pixels, better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover
  glass that's more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
  
  
  - A
  
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Marek Raida]

And please colourful LED diode with easy notification API would be really 
really great!!
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Marek Raida]

As many already said:
Like:
- memory capacity
- storage capacity
- plastic surface
Dislike:
- little smaller device would be great (4.3 or 4.5" with thinner bevel)
- display is good but not great either, could be improved
- in pocket and curent Power button, many times turning the device off or 
taking screenshot unintentionally
- could be SW issue, but swipes are way too many times inaccurate/ignored 
completely
- speaker sound is distorted or not loud enough many times
- overall look is cheap -> improve it a bit would not hurt either
- SIM dongle is fragile and clumsy
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Mike Habicher]

  
  
Like:
  - fit and feel -- I have relatively short fingers, and the phone
  fits well; also the plastic feels high quality despite being...
  well, plastic.
  - battery life is good, even with GPS and WiFi tethering enabled.
  - GPS seems to acquire quickly and track well.
  
  Dislike:
  - camera image quality -- it would be nice to have better quality
  modules with glass lenses and better sensors, as well as drivers
  with the flexibility to tweak things to a much finer degree than
  what's exposed by the AOSP interface.
  - screen quality -- the vertical viewing angle is too tight.
  - touchscreen -- I've noticed that touches and swipes sometimes
  just don't register, and I have to repeat the touch or gesture.
  
  --m.
  
  
  On 14-11-11 04:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I
  wanted to reach out to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware*
  has worked for you as a daily driver (dogfooding) device.
  
  
  What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it
  comes to using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one*
  hardware feature would you most like to see improved or added in a
  future reference device.
  
  
  I'll start things off.
  
  
  Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the
  plastic.
  
  
  Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
  
  
  Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more
  pixels, better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover
  glass that's more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
  
  
  - A
  
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Jim Porter]

On 11/11/2014 03:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

If I could change only one thing (in the hardware), it would be to make
the phone just a bit smaller. It's just a little bit too large to
comfortably fit in my pocket.

That said, I don't currently dogfood a Flame, but that's because the
software is missing a few features I rely on. (It's getting closer, though.)

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[Jim Porter]

On 11/11/2014 03:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

If I could change only one thing (in the hardware), it would be to make
the phone just a bit smaller. It's just a little bit too large to
comfortably fit in my pocket.

That said, I don't currently dogfood a Flame, but that's because the
software is missing a few features I rely on. (It's getting closer, though.)

- Jim
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[Brion Vibber]

Likes:
* Overall feel, size is not too huge or too small
* Screen resolution is "good enough" to work with

Dislikes:
* Camera quality very poor
* Lack of LTE is moderately painful as a first-world spoiled person
* I'm often hitting the power button somehow in my pocket and rebooting the
device
* Using my primary SIM previously in Nexus 4/5 devices (micro-sim) required
an adapter widget, which was hard to insert into the SIM slot properly
without the micro-SIM popping out. (The adapter was not hard to get, but
making it easier to insert an adapter+SIM combination would be nice.)
* Higher-resolution or clearer screen would be nice, but not a high
priority. (Though I do go "ooh" and "aah" when I pull out my Nexus 5
occasionally.)

Top Request:
* Better camera is a must

-- brion


On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Asa Dotzler  wrote:

> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more
> touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
> - A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Fabrice Desré]

I like:
- the battery life.
- the overall build quality.

I dislike:
- the size & weight.
- the speaker sound is often distorted, even when not at full volume.

Top Request:
A slightly smaller device (eg. 4 inches) with a better quality screen.

Fabrice

On 11/11/2014 01:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
> 
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
> 
> I'll start things off.
> 
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
> 
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
> 
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
> more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
> 
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Andrew Overholt]

The camera quality is the biggest negative for me.
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Julien Wajsberg]

Quite the same than what's been already said.

oh one more thing: I want that we can build and distribute an image from
a git checkout (I'm not saying "from source" as I understand there might
be binary blobs). We should be able to do it even if we don't have a
device. We should be able to get updated blobs even if we don't flash a
base build before, or if we bricked the phone and don't have adb access
anymore.


Le 11/11/2014 22:04, Asa Dotzler a écrit :
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out
> to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a
> daily driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature
> would you most like to see improved or added in a future reference
> device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
> more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
> - A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Mark Banner]

Like: Feel of device & the look of it.

Dislike:
- Quality of glass / drop capability. I've unfortunately cracked the 
screen of one of mine when I fumbled it and dropped it. I'm not sure, 
but I'd have been confident that my samsung would have survived that.
- The power button is too easily pressed when in my backpocket. I sit in 
the car or something and find my flame is buzzing because it's rebooting 
due to the power button being pressed. Its also too easy to catch at 
other times.

- The glass picks up grease too easy and shows up fingerprints etc.
- Someone said the back cover is a bit flimsy, on one of my devices, it 
doesn't sit snug against the front on one of the corners. Also makes me 
think it might break whenever I have to take it off.

- Loudspeaker is very tinny compared with other devices.

The first three are the biggest issues, I'd be torn as to which of the 
first two would be the one feature to fix.


Mark.

On 11/11/2014 21:04, Asa Dotzler wrote:
As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out 
to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a 
daily driver (dogfooding) device.


What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to 
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature 
would you most like to see improved or added in a future reference 
device.


I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels, 
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's 
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.


- A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Denver Gingerich]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Robert Bîndar  wrote:
> Dislike:
[...]
> * the lack of 4G
> * I suppose this is a hardware issue, It's annoying when I have a very
> poor data connection and others around me have a very good one (same
> provider and the same plan)

Relatedly:

* the lack of 1700 MHz (AWS) 3G support

As an example, almost half the carriers in Canada use 1700 MHz and
only 1700 MHz to provide 3G (see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks#Americas ).  From
my experience with developers (both mobile and web) in Canada, most of
them prefer the 1700 MHz carriers, in part because their rates are
more competitive (especially if you use a lot of data).

Furthermore, most of the 1700 MHz carriers do not operate a 2G
network.  This means that the Flame simply will not connect at all to
these networks, which makes it hard for a developer to use it as their
primary phone if that is their carrier.  (In fact, I'm not aware of
any current Firefox OS phone that operates on 1700 MHz so it's hard
for these developers to use any Firefox OS device, period.)

On Robert's point about data connection quality, adding 1700 MHz
support could also improve the data connection in some situations, ie.
in places where T-Mobile USA offers services in that band.

Other flagship phones (such as the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4/5/6)
support pentaband 3G (850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz) so I feel the next
Flame should as well.

Denver
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Eli Perelman]

The inability to keep the time after a reboot is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1061797

Thanks,

Eli Perelman

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Ben Francis  wrote:

> Like: Rubberised plastic, colours, screen size (please don't make it
> bigger!), dual SIM, removeable battery, clean design, weight, hardware home
> button
>
> Dislike: Too easy to accidentally turn off in pocket, camera quality,
> screen pixel density, plastic has a nice finish but seems quite low grade.
> A metal case and a physical switch for the home button would be awesome but
> I imagine to expensive.
>
> Top request: Better camera (and don't make it a phablet!)
>
> My biggest gripes right now are actually battery life and inability to
> keep the time (!), but these are probably software issues.
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Asa Dotzler  wrote:
>
>> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
>> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
>> driver (dogfooding) device.
>>
>> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
>> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
>> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>>
>> I'll start things off.
>>
>> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>>
>> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>>
>> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
>> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more
>> touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
>>
>> - A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Armen Zambrano]

Same as you (most people I talk to also like the look/feel) but I want 
to add:


Dislike: I take sooo many screenshots by mistake!

On 14-11-11 04:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
driver (dogfooding) device.

What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.

- A


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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Ben Francis]

Like: Rubberised plastic, colours, screen size (please don't make it
bigger!), dual SIM, removeable battery, clean design, weight, hardware home
button

Dislike: Too easy to accidentally turn off in pocket, camera quality,
screen pixel density, plastic has a nice finish but seems quite low grade.
A metal case and a physical switch for the home button would be awesome but
I imagine to expensive.

Top request: Better camera (and don't make it a phablet!)

My biggest gripes right now are actually battery life and inability to keep
the time (!), but these are probably software issues.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Asa Dotzler  wrote:

> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more
> touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
> - A
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Kumar Rishav]

Dislike :
Lack of uniformity across all the apps in terms of design/transition.
Design of some app looks kiddish like camera which has only few options and
others.
Use of confirmation window is depreciating now a days. instead use undo or
something similar or other approach.
lack of option to customize the design(color,fonts)..something like
launcher app.


Like : I like the hand feel of the plastic;  the size of the device is
perfect.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Gervase Markham  wrote:

> On 11/11/14 21:04, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> > As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> > y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> > driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> Can I briefly re-mention here that it would be a really awesome thing
> for a whole bunch of reasons if the next reference device didn't need
> any binary blobs to drive its hardware? :-)
>
> (If anyone needs "a whole bunch of reasons" elaborating, I'm happy to do
> so.)
>
> Gerv
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Gervase Markham]

On 11/11/14 21:04, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.

Can I briefly re-mention here that it would be a really awesome thing
for a whole bunch of reasons if the next reference device didn't need
any binary blobs to drive its hardware? :-)

(If anyone needs "a whole bunch of reasons" elaborating, I'm happy to do
so.)

Gerv

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Gervase Markham]

On 12/11/14 04:54, Dee wrote:
> * Changing volume control works even when no music is playing. This
> accidentaly changes the volume when the phone is in my pocket. And often
> it gets noiseless in this way and I do not hear it any more.

There's good Android software called "Volume Locker" to deal with that
problem; perhaps something similar could be produced for B2G? I doubt
that every B2G phone ever made will have unknockable volume controls...

Gerv

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Ognyan Kulev]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:10:44AM -0800, Kevin Grandon wrote:
> Question for those who are complaining about taking screenshots. What version 
> of the phone are you using? I've noticed that on 2.2 (and probably 2.1), the 
> new delay makes it a much more deliberate action. It just seems that we can 
> solve this through software, and I think we may have already done so.

I'm using version 2.1 and I haven't tried 2.2 yet.

All the best,
Ognyan Kulev


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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Kevin Grandon]

Question for those who are complaining about taking screenshots. What version 
of the phone are you using? I've noticed that on 2.2 (and probably 2.1), the 
new delay makes it a much more deliberate action. It just seems that we can 
solve this through software, and I think we may have already done so.

The power cycling thing is definitely an issue for me as well.

Best,
Kevin 

- Original Message -
From: "Ognyan Kulev" 
To: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:40:11 AM
Subject: Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:04:21PM -0800, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach
> out to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you
> as a daily driver (dogfooding) device.

Like:
- "look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic."
- Great mic, fine speaker, right heaviness and feel in hand

Dislike (ordered):
- Very often accidentally make screenshots (placement of volume and power 
buttons combined with right hand usage)
- hard to touch back button on top left using my right hand (too big screen or 
my hand is too small :-) )
- Text looks fine but could be better (PPI), vertical viewing angles would be 
nice
- second SIM could be replaceable

All the best,
Ognyan Kulev


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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Ognyan Kulev]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:04:21PM -0800, Asa Dotzler wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach
> out to y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you
> as a daily driver (dogfooding) device.

Like:
- "look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic."
- Great mic, fine speaker, right heaviness and feel in hand

Dislike (ordered):
- Very often accidentally make screenshots (placement of volume and power 
buttons combined with right hand usage)
- hard to touch back button on top left using my right hand (too big screen or 
my hand is too small :-) )
- Text looks fine but could be better (PPI), vertical viewing angles would be 
nice
- second SIM could be replaceable

All the best,
Ognyan Kulev



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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Thomas Zimmermann]

Hi

> I'll start things off.
> 
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Like: This ^^^

Dislike: The current Flame doesn't support Wifi Ad-hoc mode, which we'll
need in the future. That might just be a driver issue, though.
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Archaeopteryx]

Like:
- look & feel
- SIM cards easier to remove than in Geeksphone Keon
- big battery
- Wi-Fi connectivity: Never had issues with signal strength

Dislike:
- Device too big for pocket (it barely fits into my cycling bag). It's 
nearly impossible for me to reach the upper left corner of the screen 
when using it one-handed.

- screen surface often shows fingerprints or dirt
- memory card holder looks susceptible to damage
- When attaching the cover, I have to check manually on all sides that 
it is properly attached and no slit left. (The Geeksphone Keon's 
snapping in of the device _into_ the cover appealed more to me.)
- The camera when taking a picture with varying brightness: The darker 
parts are nearly black, especially in the preview for taking the 
picture. Trying to capture something non-static also looks like poor 
quality.


Archaeopteryx

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: reference phone improvements
Von: Asa Dotzler 
Datum: 2014-11-11 22:04

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
driver (dogfooding) device.

What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.

- A


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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Frederik Braun]

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> * Maybe software too: It's possible to press the on/off-button very
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> the phone. If you have the phone in a tight pocket it happens that
> this button is pressed and then restart is selected accidentally.

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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Robert Bîndar]

Dislike:
* the camera could be better
* the lack of 4G
* I suppose this is a hardware issue, It's annoying when I have a very
poor data connection and others around me have a very good one (same
provider and the same plan)

I like the hand feel of the plastic;  the size of the device is perfect in
my opinion.

Robert-

2014-11-11 23:04 GMT+02:00 Asa Dotzler :

> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more
> touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Dee]

Hello Asa,

Like:
* external volume control
* headphone plug-in at the top (at least near the volume control)
* has a good feel in the hand

Dislike:
* Changing volume control works even when no music is playing. This
accidentaly changes the volume when the phone is in my pocket. And often
it gets noiseless in this way and I do not hear it any more.
* Often restarts by it's own. I'm not sure if this is a hardware problem
(e.g. the battery does not fit tightly) or a software problem.
* Maybe software too: It's possible to press the on/off-button very long
in standby so that you get a selection to power of or restart the phone.
If you have the phone in a tight pocket it happens that this button is
pressed and then restart is selected accidentally.
* Speaker quality could be better. But this also could be a software
problem (or a connection problem that I have to seem very often).
* Phone is a little bit too wide for my hands. If you hold the phone in
your right hand it's not so easy to swipe with the right thumb from the
left to right side because it's not easy to reach the left side.
* Back plastic cover seems a little bit thin and fragile. (But it hasn't
broken yet.)

Top requests are mostly software related. The hardware is fine overall.

Best regards
Dominik

Am 11.11.2014 um 22:04 schrieb Asa Dotzler:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
> 
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
> using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
> you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
> 
> I'll start things off.
> 
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
> 
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
> 
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
> better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
> more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.
> 
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Axel Hecht]

On 11/11/14 10:04 PM, Asa Dotzler wrote:

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
driver (dogfooding) device.

What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would
you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.

I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels,
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.

- A


Plus: Look & Feel.

Minus: I'm failing too often on 2048. AKA, swipe gestures aren't 
reliable. This might be a device/driver issue. I filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1012675 a while back.


Axel
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Jonas Sicking]

Crappy camera has definitely been the biggest issue for me. And what
makes me most eager to stop dogfooding.

And I agree that I like the feel of the device in my hand.

/ Jonas

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Asa Dotzler  wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to using
> the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would you most
> like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels, better
> viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more touch
> friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
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Re: [b2g] reference phone improvements

[Benjamin Kerensa]

Like: Look and feel, build quality etc
Dislike: Lack of 4G/LTE band (as a North American dogfooder this
hurts), Wish audio jack was at bottom, the power jack seems akward and
sometimes I have issues plugging in my micro usb

This is totally side topic but would be nice to have a partner making
cases for our reference devices I always worry about dropping it.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Asa Dotzler  wrote:
> As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to
> y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily
> driver (dogfooding) device.
>
> What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to using
> the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would you most
> like to see improved or added in a future reference device.
>
> I'll start things off.
>
> Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.
>
> Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.
>
> Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels, better
> viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's more touch
> friendly and less fingerprinty.
>
> - A
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[b2g] reference phone improvements

[Asa Dotzler]

As we star work on the next reference device(s) I wanted to reach out to 
y'all and ask you how the Flame *hardware* has worked for you as a daily 
driver (dogfooding) device.


What do you like and dislike about the Flame hardware when it comes to 
using the phone as a daily driver, and what *one* hardware feature would 
you most like to see improved or added in a future reference device.


I'll start things off.

Like: look and feel, build quality and the hand feel of the plastic.

Dislike: the camera quality and the screen quality.

Top Request: I'd most like to have a better screen with more pixels, 
better viewing angles, more accurate colors, and a cover glass that's 
more touch friendly and less fingerprinty.


- A
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