Re: [SailfishDevel] journalctl workaround to see console.log
Hi, On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 22:29 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2013/12/16 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: Hi All As reported in a previous thread, the latest SDK release does not spool console.log output to the QtCreator application output. journalctl has been suggested as a workaround. Having experimented with journalctl, Is it possible that console.log output to journalctl either gets lost, or is reported many seconds / minutes later? That seems to be the behaviour I am observing. If you flood messages, they might be suppressed. There's a limit of 200/10s or so. If that happens you should see a message about it in the journalctl output. There are some knobs you can tune in /etc/systemd/journald.conf Hope it helps. - Kalle -- Porkkalankatu 20, FI-00180 Helsinki Tel +358 9 8567 6400 Fax +358 9 8567 6401 www.movial.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Quickfix for SailfishOS SDK available today.
Hi, this Qt Creator fix will be available only as an update to the 1312 installer. We won't make another complete installer because of this. Best regards, Juha On 17.12.2013 10:22, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Jarko Super, I am very glad this was given priority. Can you confirm, we can just update, no need to completely deinstall like previous SDK updates? Chris Zitat von Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com: Hello again, Today at 10:00 UTC we will publish an update for Qt Creator (SailfishOS SDK IDE), which fixes the missing application output logs. The update will be made available via the SDK maintenance tool and Qt Creator will display an update notifier when it is ready for downloading. Here's are the release notes for this update: SailfishOS SDK IDE: * Qt Creator updated to version 2.8.1-4 * Fixes missing application output logs - emulator traces can be now seen in Qt Creator's application output window. If you encounter any issues, please report them to Sailfish developers mailing list at devel@lists.sailfishos.org Happy hacking, The Jolla SDK Team ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Quickfix for SailfishOS SDK available today.
Hi Juha Unfortunately the Updater is giving me the error The hash of one component does not match the expected one and Could not download meta information for component: org.merproject.tools. Error: Bad hash. I am running 1312 on OSX Chris Zitat von Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com: Hi, this Qt Creator fix will be available only as an update to the 1312 installer. We won't make another complete installer because of this. Best regards, Juha On 17.12.2013 10:22, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Jarko Super, I am very glad this was given priority. Can you confirm, we can just update, no need to completely deinstall like previous SDK updates? Chris Zitat von Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com: Hello again, Today at 10:00 UTC we will publish an update for Qt Creator (SailfishOS SDK IDE), which fixes the missing application output logs. The update will be made available via the SDK maintenance tool and Qt Creator will display an update notifier when it is ready for downloading. Here's are the release notes for this update: SailfishOS SDK IDE: * Qt Creator updated to version 2.8.1-4 * Fixes missing application output logs - emulator traces can be now seen in Qt Creator's application output window. If you encounter any issues, please report them to Sailfish developers mailing list at devel@lists.sailfishos.org Happy hacking, The Jolla SDK Team ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Oops, sent to early... - With the white cover and it's ambient active you can hardly read your network providers's name in the lock screen (not much of an information loss but it looks rather strange) - Cannot copy/paste in Mail or in Browser - Browser can't share links - Don't like the Browser's look and feel. It is totally out of place with the rest of the OS. - Regular disconnects from WLAN - I had to manually setup the APN for T-Mobile Don't get me wrong. It's great to have the device but it does wear the beta tag for a reason. However I love to have double tap to wake-up back ;-) Nils ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Quickfix for SailfishOS SDK available today.
Hi, sorry about that, there was a mishap in copying the updated files to the correct path. The mishap is being fixed and the update will be available shortly. Best regards, Juha On 17.12.2013 12:02, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Juha Unfortunately the Updater is giving me the error The hash of one component does not match the expected one and Could not download meta information for component: org.merproject.tools. Error: Bad hash. I am running 1312 on OSX Chris Zitat von Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com: Hi, this Qt Creator fix will be available only as an update to the 1312 installer. We won't make another complete installer because of this. Best regards, Juha On 17.12.2013 10:22, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Jarko Super, I am very glad this was given priority. Can you confirm, we can just update, no need to completely deinstall like previous SDK updates? Chris Zitat von Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com: Hello again, Today at 10:00 UTC we will publish an update for Qt Creator (SailfishOS SDK IDE), which fixes the missing application output logs. The update will be made available via the SDK maintenance tool and Qt Creator will display an update notifier when it is ready for downloading. Here's are the release notes for this update: SailfishOS SDK IDE: * Qt Creator updated to version 2.8.1-4 * Fixes missing application output logs - emulator traces can be now seen in Qt Creator's application output window. If you encounter any issues, please report them to Sailfish developers mailing list at devel@lists.sailfishos.org Happy hacking, The Jolla SDK Team ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list . ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Hi Valerio, that Google support page doesn't offer a real solution it seems. It confirms that Google Sync will stop working and it says that IMAP, CardDav and CalDav are available instead. So, can we use IMAP+CardDav+CalDav on Jolla? On 17 December 2013 10:27, Valerio Valerio valerio.vale...@jollamobile.comwrote: Hi, On 17/12/13 10:11, Nils Jeisecke wrote: Hi, - Fonts look generally pretty bad (most obvious in the launcher) - Scrolling makes pixels look jaggy. Open Terminal, type ls, go to app switcher and drag a little bit = pixels in the minimized terminal app start to dance around - Android Tasks must be handled by the Sailfish Taskswitcher. BB10 does this right. - Pinning would be useful - email Push over Exchange does not work for me (using Google) is that a payed account ? (google apps for business for e.g). If not, access will stop working at the end of the year, does not make sense to invest time and resource in a service that will stop working in a few more days(unless google extent the support again). Google suggests these alternatives: https://support.google.com/a/answer/2716936 Best regards, Valério On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Kari Pihkala kari.pihk...@gmail.com wrote: 2. There should be a way to go straight from Lock Screen to Launcher (instead of needing to go through Home) i don't agree, for multi-processing this is better, plus there's a pulley menu on lock for the relevant apps... i suppose this is configurable I also have difficulties with the Home screen and I would rather use the Launcher screen to switch between apps. I think the reason is that in Home screen: * Covers move around so I have to go through them one by one to find the app I need. Only if I continuously swap between two apps, I might trust that the app is the first or second one in the grid. * Cover texts/images change, so I have to read/decypher images to understand which app they relate to. This is slow. in Launcher screen: * App icons don't move around. I can rely on my spatial memory and find the app always at the same spot. Often, I have already moved my finger over the app before the screen has stopped scrolling. * App icons don't change. Recognizing a familiar icon is faster than reading/decyphering images. Perhaps the number of covers displayed on Home could be customizable? I would limit it to three small ones (or remove all). The app icons could move up to occupy the free space. Also pinning the covers would help (I would pin most of them). I never close apps, so I have all the time nine small covers on the Home screen. Am I doing it wrong? Cheers, Kari 2013/12/14 AL13N al...@rmail.be Hi, Moving from N9/Meego two days ago, I find Jolla/Sailfish very easy to use, and have some feedback (wishlist?). I hope this is the right place for this feedback, otherwise please point me to the correct place. i'm not a jolla dev, nor do i have a jolla, but i'll reply and give my thoughts... Current version: 1.0.1.10 (notification for version upgrade came almost immediate I got online) Sailfish/Platform specific: 1. From Lock Screen, swiping-up should bring me to Home screen, but it often brings up the Events screen even if there is no notifications/events. A friend's N9 community edition Sailfish allows swiping from the left/right side on Lock screen - the same doesn’t work on my Jolla. if you swipe up from the bottom, it brings event screen, if you swipe up from the middle, it brings home screen. takes some getting used to... maybe swiping left/right doens't work if you don't have a TOH? 2. There should be a way to go straight from Lock Screen to Launcher (instead of needing to go through Home) i don't agree, for multi-processing this is better, plus there's a pulley menu on lock for the relevant apps... i suppose this is configurable 3. Easier (less taps) accessible configuration (eg WLAN, Bluetooth) from any screen (not just Settings) wasn't there some kind of cover where you could do this? there's been a request for pinning covers, i would like this in combination... 4. Need easier way view the current connection (All the connection related icons on Lock Screen are hard to decode at least initially - in particular for the Mobile Network Data icon, but WLAN icon also hard to decode) 5. More configurable settings (colour selection for text/notification icons/etc, background picture, additional items to be displayed on Lock screen) this is done via ambience iinm, but i agree that this Abience should really be allowed to be tuned/configured a bit... 6. Icon's Text on Launcher screen feels a bit hard to read (doesn’t look very solid) Ambience? 7. Add ability to have different colours to different inbuilt apps (eg. Phone, messaging/SMS, etc) - they currently all look very similar on the Home screen and colour differentiation would help usability greatly. i think
Re: [SailfishDevel] qml and opengl/c++
Hi,
2013/12/6 Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl:
Some of you referred to the 'OpenGL Under QML'
(http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/scenegraph-openglunderqml.html)
example.
I got the example working in Sailfish.
Only one problem.
It doesn't show up within 'ApplicationWindow'. I have to comment
ApplicationWindow{} out and use the Item as root element.
Same problem to get it in 'Page'.
Possibly there is already a Sailfish 'OpenGL Under QML'?
I've posted an example here to demonstrate how this would be done in theory:
https://github.com/thp/harbour-opengl-in-qml
Obviously for a real application, you will have to make sure to stop
the timer when the window goes into the background, etc..
HTH :)
Thomas
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[SailfishDevel] GPS Location service (QTLocation or QTPositioning)
Hello guys, I want to develop some kind of MTB tracking application. I develop in real device and want to know which module for position data is the best way to go. On the device I see that qt-location and qt-positioning is installed. As qt-positioning is part of qt 5.2 I would think this is the way to go. If it is qt-positioning I would like to know what I have to do to get precise gps data. At the moment it seems that I only get only bad location data. I know that currently the packages are not accepted in harbour. greetings signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Bluetooth headset/carkit issue (and clock related feedback)
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Valerio Valerio valerio.vale...@jollamobile.com wrote: you can access that info at anytime by doing a peak gesture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YGtW274GIfeature=c4-overviewlist=UUgK45xp5j9vJMJ3odffESjA But where's the date? Currently calendar has to be open on the home screen to see that. Nils ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] QtSensors support in Harbour
Hi, 2013/12/17 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi: Is there any known workaround for acceleration sensor use? (or schedule when QtSensors 5.0 would be allowed in Harbour?) QtSensors 5.0 is scheduled to be available for Harbour apps soon, it's already been added to the list of approved QML imports, but it will take some time until this comes into effect at Harbour intake. HTH :) Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] GPS Location service (QTLocation or QTPositioning)
Hi Hendrik What do you mean by bad location data? Qt Positioning / Location should be way to go. The old Mobility Location (from which Positioning / Location descends) worked on the Nokia N9 Chris Zitat von Hendrik Borghorst hendrikborgho...@gmail.com: Hello guys, I want to develop some kind of MTB tracking application. I develop in real device and want to know which module for position data is the best way to go. On the device I see that qt-location and qt-positioning is installed. As qt-positioning is part of qt 5.2 I would think this is the way to go. If it is qt-positioning I would like to know what I have to do to get precise gps data. At the moment it seems that I only get only bad location data. I know that currently the packages are not accepted in harbour. greetings ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] cannot hide() contextmenu
Hi,
I am trying a contextmenu. I can show() it, but not hide it.
Clicking on the lower rectangle does not hide it:
import QtQuick 2.0
import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
Page {
id: pageT
Rectangle
{
id : timerWindow
anchors.top: parent.top
anchors.left: parent.left
anchors.right: parent.right
height : 400
color : #00FF00
MouseArea
{
anchors.fill : parent
onClicked:
{
contextMenu.show(timerWindow)
}
}
}
Rectangle
{
id : timerWindow2
anchors.top: timerWindow.bottom
anchors.left: parent.left
anchors.right: parent.right
anchors.bottom: parent.bottom
color : #FF
MouseArea
{
anchors.fill : parent
onClicked:
{
console.log(hiding)
contextMenu.hide()
}
}
}
ContextMenu
{
anchors.fill: parent
property bool menuShown : false
id: contextMenu
MenuItem {
text: Option 1
}
MenuItem {
text: Option 2
}
}
}
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Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
My list of questions/issues: - there doesn't seem to be a way to interact with facebook / twitter, even though I have added those accounts. (or am I missing something..?) - on my N9 I could swipe to the right/left to get to the 'running apps' screen. That doesn't seem to work anymore. - And yes: I too miss N9 swype to enter text. I hope we'll see that back..! - I'd like to see a dutch T9/swype dictionary, for me the interface language could stay english only - Caldav! Without it, jolla can not become my primary daily phone. (i depend on various caldav calendars) For the rest: great! Anxiously awaiting future updates! MJ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
2013/12/17 mourik jan heupink heup...@merit.unu.edu: My list of questions/issues: - there doesn't seem to be a way to interact with facebook / twitter, even though I have added those accounts. (or am I missing something..?) Pull from the bottom of the screen almost anywhere and at least for twitter you'll see a feed icon for reading and share your thoughts or similar text entry for tweeting. - on my N9 I could swipe to the right/left to get to the 'running apps' screen. That doesn't seem to work anymore. It is a bit funny to say anymore given that N9 is from a different company and with a different UI layer... ;) -- Kalle Vahlman, Movial Creative Technologies Inc. Porkkalankatu 20, FI-00180 Helsinki Tel +358 9 8567 6400 Fax +358 9 8567 6401 www.movial.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Hi Valerio, Am 17.12.2013 11:43, schrieb Valerio Valerio: On 17/12/13 10:37, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: So, can we use IMAP+CardDav+CalDav on Jolla? CalDav for Calendar sync is not supported at the moment, will be offered in a update, contacts and mail are supported by configuring a google account. It's a bit funny to buy a phone with full opensource OS to get rid of google and to realize afterwards that I need google for contacts synchronization. IMAP-Push, CardDav, CalDav are basics which Jolla (or better Sailfish) really needs. It's so easy to use e.g. ownloud to synchronize all this stuff. Looking forward to the next updates and the power of community apps. Best regards, Alexander ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Is there a way to be notified of incoming mails in any folder (I'm using IMAP)? Actually it seems to me that it monitors Inbox folder only. With my N9 I used to mark some folders as fovourites and I got notifications for new mails in all of them: anything like that? On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Gianguido Sorà gianguidor...@gmail.comwrote: Can you give us some details about battery life? How many battery cycles you did? Il 17/dic/2013 14:48 mourik jan heupink heup...@merit.unu.edu ha scritto: My list of questions/issues: - there doesn't seem to be a way to interact with facebook / twitter, even though I have added those accounts. (or am I missing something..?) - on my N9 I could swipe to the right/left to get to the 'running apps' screen. That doesn't seem to work anymore. - And yes: I too miss N9 swype to enter text. I hope we'll see that back..! - I'd like to see a dutch T9/swype dictionary, for me the interface language could stay english only - Caldav! Without it, jolla can not become my primary daily phone. (i depend on various caldav calendars) For the rest: great! Anxiously awaiting future updates! MJ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Luca Donaggio ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
On 12/17/2013 03:22 PM, Luca Donaggio wrote: Is there a way to be notified of incoming mails in any folder (I'm using IMAP)? Actually it seems to me that it monitors Inbox folder only. With my N9 I used to mark some folders as fovourites and I got notifications for new mails in all of them: anything like that? I miss that too. I keep an eye on various imap folders through the day, and on sailfish that's not (yet) an easy task. Also a 'mark imap folder as read' option would be very welcome. (I missed that very much on the N9) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Hi, did anybody manage to create all-day events in the calendar? It shows existing events as all-day but I can't find a UI for setting that. Nils ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
2013/12/17 mourik jan heupink heup...@merit.unu.edu: Hi Kalle, Pull from the bottom of the screen almost anywhere and at least for twitter you'll see a feed icon for reading and share your thoughts or similar text entry for tweeting. Right! Had not yet discovered that one. Seems to be twitter-only though. I guess facebook interaction is simply not there, yet? I would assume facebook should have it's own icon above the text entry when you focus it (why else there would be one for twitter?), but I'm not a user so don't know for sure... -- Kalle Vahlman, Movial Creative Technologies Inc. Porkkalankatu 20, FI-00180 Helsinki Tel +358 9 8567 6400 Fax +358 9 8567 6401 www.movial.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Harbour news
Ahoy, Here is some short Harbour information: 1) In Week 52/2013 and 01/2014 our QA staff is working with reduced man power. We will be back full speed Tue 7. January 2014. So expect some delays in processing your submissions to Harbour, thanks for understanding. 2) We noticed that many forget to increment the rpm version number. Please ensure that each submission has a higher version-release, than the already approved version. We will add a version check to the web ui. But until then please check it yourself too, to avoid rejections. 3) It would make the testers life easier, if you would provide more detailed information about the changes you made if you submit a new version of your application in the web ui when you submit the rpm. The field is not mandatory and we don't want to force you. But a few sentences about what changed would help a lot, and will speed up QA for your application. Note that this information is not shown to your end-users - you may update the description though. 4) Heads up: Soon we won't allow any files not needing the execution bit set, to have it set. So .png, .desktop and .qml files (and any other file you package with your rpm, except the binary) are not allowed to have permission 755, just 644! 5) New APIs are approved as we go along - we'll inform you when you're allowed to use new APIs in Harbour apps on the mailing list. If you think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. The current list of approved APIs can be found on https://harbour.jolla.com/faq We are currently studying how the SDK could support you with 2) and 4). So we wish you Happy Holidays and a successful New Year! Happy hacking (but get also some rest :-)) Jolla Harbour Team ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Making HTTP-requests
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Making HTTP-requests
Why not to make class with features you want and export it via setContextProperty to use on QML side? On 17.12.2013 22:14, da4c3...@ssl-mail.com wrote: What is the preferred way to make HTTP-requests in Sailfish? XMLHttpRequest doesn't cut it, since I need a custom user agent string. Are there any QML-libraries or do I have to hack it with QNetworkRequest and friends? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Making HTTP-requests
Hi, there should not be so much to hack with QNetwork. Just started with QNetwork yesterday, it's not very hard to understand, even for a Qt/C++ newbie, like me. Now working with the JSON response seems to be a bit more difficult. ;-) Gabriel. -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet da4c3...@ssl-mail.com schrieb am 17.12.13 17:14: What is the preferred way to make HTTP-requests in Sailfish? XMLHttpRequest doesn't cut it, since I need a custom user agent string. Are there any QML-libraries or do I have to hack it with QNetworkRequest and friends? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use
Hi all, I think the point was that while tweets are integrated in the ui of the notifications, tapping on the facebook icon simply opens the browser. I agree, this seems like it's just unfinished but should be there in the future. By the way, I'd like to see the mail app recognize mailing lists and offer an option to reply to the list. Now I had to manually edit the address. Best regards, ottulo On Tue Dec 17 2013 16:53:07 GMT+0200 (EET), Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2013/12/17 mourik jan heupink heup...@merit.unu.edu: Hi Kalle, Pull from the bottom of the screen almost anywhere and at least for twitter you'll see a feed icon for reading and share your thoughts or similar text entry for tweeting. Right! Had not yet discovered that one. Seems to be twitter-only though. I guess facebook interaction is simply not there, yet? I would assume facebook should have it's own icon above the text entry when you focus it (why else there would be one for twitter?), but I'm not a user so don't know for sure... -- Kalle Vahlman, Movial Creative Technologies Inc. Porkkalankatu 20, FI-00180 Helsinki Tel +358 9 8567 6400 Fax +358 9 8567 6401 www.movial.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
Thanks for testing. Both my apps failed to work on the updated SDK, and I haven't had time to look at getting them working again. On Sunday 15 December 2013 21:56 Kimmo Lindholm wrote: Thomas, I pulled your kitchen-timer, built and deployed as rpm, and tested it on device, it gives me just white screen when started. -kimmo -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Tanghus Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:49 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps? Currency Converter: https://github.com/tanghus/currency-converter-qml Kitchen Timer: https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml The capcha for your site is ridiculous, so posting it here instead :) On Saturday 14 December 2013 11:41 AL13N wrote: if there are people who are working on apps, and want to let it know, so that no other devs will waste time making the same apps, you can add these here: http://elinux.org/Jolla in the appriopriate section. Thanks! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
On 17/12/13 19:01, Damien Caliste wrote: think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. I posted before about the Glib stack with Cairo, that propose a stable API, that may help to port applications to Sailfish. Namely, glib-2.0, gobject-2.0 and cairo-1.0, plus some other low-level libraries, like libsoup, libcurl or libjpeg-turbo. I know they are low level and Qt provides abstractions for them, but when porting, it's easier to keep these low level libraries, which have a stable API anyway. QML is used for UI on Sailfish in that case with these low level backends (already available in Mer). What do you think ? I support this, at least for Glib/Gobject. Glib is a useful library and, for any app which uses it at all, it will be likely to be completely embedded throughout the code. While the GUI of such an app will need to be reworked for Sailfish, the 80% of the code which actually does something might be able to be left relatively untouched. Graham ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] [update] Hotfix to update1 (1.0.1.10 - 1.0.1.12)
Dear Bernd, after update to 1.0.1.12, jolla-gallery stopped showing some of the images. They appear as thumbnails, but all other views show them as empty. As far as I know, I haven't done any ther changes with the device. Cheers, Jani Bernd Wachter bernd.wach...@jolla.com kirjoitti: Hi all, we just discovered an issue in both 1.0.0.5 and 1.0.1.10 today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version 1.0.1.12 you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working. Bernd ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Dr. Jani Kotakoski from Jolla. Please excuse my brewity.___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
Kimmo, I just pushed an update. TimePicker apparently doesn't support showRangeIndicator anymore..? Works nicely! - something I was already looking for.. functionality should be added to the Jolla native clock (which timer can adjust only hours and minutes) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
On Sunday 15 December 2013 18:41 AL13N wrote: Currency Converter: https://github.com/tanghus/currency-converter-qml Kitchen Timer: https://github.com/tanghus/kitchen-timer-qml The capcha for your site is ridiculous, so posting it here instead :) It's not my site (it's for embedded linux), but that captcha _is_ ridiculous... i couldn't answer one question, after dozens of reloads, i ended up researching the Linus Torvalds question and cycle the captcha until i got that one... :-( ROFL. Thanks for adding my - still half-baked - apps :) Since we don't have anything yet, this is a place where we can put some documentation until there might be a better place... though, otoh, since this is about embedded Linux, it's not exactly a wrong place either... -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
17.12.2013 21:08, Graham Cobb: On 17/12/13 19:01, Damien Caliste wrote: think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. I posted before about the Glib stack with Cairo, that propose a stable API, that may help to port applications to Sailfish. Namely, glib-2.0, gobject-2.0 and cairo-1.0, plus some other low-level libraries, like libsoup, libcurl or libjpeg-turbo. I know they are low level and Qt provides abstractions for them, but when porting, it's easier to keep these low level libraries, which have a stable API anyway. QML is used for UI on Sailfish in that case with these low level backends (already available in Mer). What do you think ? I support this, at least for Glib/Gobject. Glib is a useful library and, for any app which uses it at all, it will be likely to be completely embedded throughout the code. While the GUI of such an app will need to be reworked for Sailfish, the 80% of the code which actually does something might be able to be left relatively untouched. Graham ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list I'm also all for this! :) I'll specifically point out that Cairo is a very nice vector drawing library and should be included. While there is the QtQuick 2.0 Canvas API, it seems to be GUI-only, without support for file output, which might be something many applications would like to do when doing simple image manipulation. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. I posted before about the Glib stack with Cairo, that propose a stable API, that may help to port applications to Sailfish. Namely, glib-2.0, gobject-2.0 and cairo-1.0, plus some other low-level libraries, like libsoup, libcurl or libjpeg-turbo. I know they are low level and Qt provides abstractions for them, but when porting, it's easier to keep these low level libraries, which have a stable API anyway. QML is used for UI on Sailfish in that case with these low level backends (already available in Mer). What do you think ? All the best, Damien. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] qca-qt5 for Jolla phone
Hi, as far as I can see, qca-qt5 is not available in the pre-installed repositories of the Jolla phone. So, my questions are: - Is it planned to make it available (qca-qt5 is already in nemo:devel:mw on Mer OBS.)? - What would be the process to make it available and how long would it roughly take? I filed the PR on github that added the packaging for the actual qt5 version and would be willing to help here if I can. - Are there alternatives to adding qca-qt5 to the pre-installed repositories in order to allow apps on Harbour to use it as dependency? Background: My app MeePasswords requires qca-qt5. So far, I succeeded in building it in the SDK and successfully ran it on my device (I manually added the qca-qt5 dependency via zypper.). The biggest problem right now is the qca-qt5 dependency. I'd be very happy if it was possible to get MeePasswords into the Harbour. Thanks and best regards, Ruediger -- http://ruedigergad.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] [update] Hotfix to update1 (1.0.1.10 - 1.0.1.12)
To Development Team After the 1.0.1.12 update my Jolla device remained black (did not come back to system screen). Had to boot the device. That did help though! :D Regards Simo 2013/12/17 Jani Kotakoski jani.kotako...@gmail.com Dear Bernd, after update to 1.0.1.12, jolla-gallery stopped showing some of the images. They appear as thumbnails, but all other views show them as empty. As far as I know, I haven't done any ther changes with the device. Cheers, Jani Bernd Wachter bernd.wach...@jolla.com kirjoitti: Hi all, we just discovered an issue in both 1.0.0.5 and 1.0.1.10 today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version 1.0.1.12 you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working. Bernd -- SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Dr. Jani Kotakoski from Jolla. Please excuse my brewity. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Wallpaper disappeared after update
Try this in terminal: pkcon install jolla-preload-ambiences Ahoy, I just received my Jolla and got a problem after the update : the wallpaper totally disappeared from the home page although it still seems to be there (in the settings background for example, where it is really blurred). There are 2 details that might be of importance here : - I uninstalled the tutorial application (no need after the first run, especially for a N9 user) - the gallery shows 0 photos I tried to restore the tutorial but it is not present on the store. Is there any way to get the wallpapers back and restore the ambiance (the dark blue one with the boat is just perfect) ? Thank you. -- Triton. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Wallpaper disappeared after update
Had to reboot the phone but it did the trick. Thanks a lot ! 2013/12/17 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi Try this in terminal: pkcon install jolla-preload-ambiences Ahoy, I just received my Jolla and got a problem after the update : the wallpaper totally disappeared from the home page although it still seems to be there (in the settings background for example, where it is really blurred). There are 2 details that might be of importance here : - I uninstalled the tutorial application (no need after the first run, especially for a N9 user) - the gallery shows 0 photos I tried to restore the tutorial but it is not present on the store. Is there any way to get the wallpapers back and restore the ambiance (the dark blue one with the boat is just perfect) ? Thank you. -- Triton. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Triton. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
On Tuesday 17 December 2013 20:20 Kimmo Lindholm wrote: Kimmo, I just pushed an update. TimePicker apparently doesn't support showRangeIndicator anymore..? Works nicely! - something I was already looking for.. Great to hear. Then I can soon - well after Christmas - submit it to Harbour. functionality should be added to the Jolla native clock (which timer can adjust only hours and minutes) He, I simply alias hours to minutes and minutes to seconds ;) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
I will start working as soon as possible to SailSoma, the porting of CuteSoma (Soma.fm client) from N9 to SailfishOS :) On 14 December 2013 10:41, AL13N al...@rmail.be wrote: if there are people who are working on apps, and want to let it know, so that no other devs will waste time making the same apps, you can add these here: http://elinux.org/Jolla in the appriopriate section. Thanks! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Andrea Grandi - Software Engineer / Qt Ambassador / Nokia Developer Champion website: http://www.andreagrandi.it ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
Guys, Harbour states that we can actually ship whichever libraries you want together with the apps as long as we follow the specific rules (that are beyond my skills). Could somebody skilled (maybe Jolla sailors themselves?) create an example of using some standard Qt module such as QtGraphicalEffects? And maybe some non-Qt lib too. You know, many packages already exist in Mer repositories, so probably we don't even need to compile anything, just wrap the binaries correctly. Then a list of libraries supported by Harbour will be not an issue completely. Supported - fine, smaller app size; not supported - okay, we ship module together with the app. Best regards. Artem. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.comwrote: 17.12.2013 21:08, Graham Cobb: On 17/12/13 19:01, Damien Caliste wrote: think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. I posted before about the Glib stack with Cairo, that propose a stable API, that may help to port applications to Sailfish. Namely, glib-2.0, gobject-2.0 and cairo-1.0, plus some other low-level libraries, like libsoup, libcurl or libjpeg-turbo. I know they are low level and Qt provides abstractions for them, but when porting, it's easier to keep these low level libraries, which have a stable API anyway. QML is used for UI on Sailfish in that case with these low level backends (already available in Mer). What do you think ? I support this, at least for Glib/Gobject. Glib is a useful library and, for any app which uses it at all, it will be likely to be completely embedded throughout the code. While the GUI of such an app will need to be reworked for Sailfish, the 80% of the code which actually does something might be able to be left relatively untouched. Graham ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list I'm also all for this! :) I'll specifically point out that Cairo is a very nice vector drawing library and should be included. While there is the QtQuick 2.0 Canvas API, it seems to be GUI-only, without support for file output, which might be something many applications would like to do when doing simple image manipulation. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] working on apps?
Hi Andrea, I'm already working on a more complete SomaFM client (more features: channels favorites, songs bookmarks, channels sorting, channels quality, support,...) I checked your code to learn some stuff btw :-) Everything is ready except the actual streaming music player which I just started It will be available in a couple of months maybe depending on my availability. I just received my Jolla and I want to use the app for testing for some time before submitting it. Damien On Tuesday 17 December 2013 22:39:09 a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: I will start working as soon as possible to SailSoma, the porting of CuteSoma (Soma.fm client) from N9 to SailfishOS :) On 14 December 2013 10:41, AL13N al...@rmail.be wrote: if there are people who are working on apps, and want to let it know, so that no other devs will waste time making the same apps, you can add these here: http://elinux.org/Jolla in the appriopriate section. Thanks! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Martin Kolman martin.kol...@gmail.com wrote: I'll specifically point out that Cairo is a very nice vector drawing library and should be included. While there is the QtQuick 2.0 Canvas API, it seems to be GUI-only, without support for file output, which might be something many applications would like to do when doing simple image manipulation. Hi, I am not familiar with the Cairo API. But Qt's pendant (code named Arthur) should offer about the same functionality. It should be available in the Qt C++ API and be supported in SailfishOS. See the QPainter documentation: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qpainter.html Also for the the image IO: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qimage.html#reading-and-writing-image-files Note that these two areas of Qt are not part of the blacklisted QtWidgets, but rather part of QtGui. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news
Hi, 2013/12/17 Damien Caliste dcali...@free.fr: think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. I posted before about the Glib stack with Cairo, that propose a stable API, that may help to port applications to Sailfish. Namely, glib-2.0, gobject-2.0 and cairo-1.0, plus some other low-level libraries, like libsoup, libcurl or libjpeg-turbo. I know they are low level and Qt provides abstractions for them, but when porting, it's easier to keep these low level libraries, which have a stable API anyway. QML is used for UI on Sailfish in that case with these low level backends (already available in Mer). What do you think ? glib-2.0 is going to be allowed soon. gobject-2.0 very likely also. For the others, I've added them to the list of libraries/APIs we'll review and think about adding. Where features overlap (e.g. libcurl + libsoup), we'll probably pick only one of them. In that specific case, we'll probably pick libcurl, as it has a good, controlled history of ABI stability / proper soversioning: http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/abi.html - libsoup on the other hand has changed API in major ways between 2.2 and 2.4, for example: https://developer.gnome.org/libsoup/2.32/libsoup-porting-2.2-2.4.html As Artem mentioned in a later post to this thread, if you really really want to have a library and it's not supported, you can always include it as shared library (or link it statically if the license allows) in your app. See https://harbour.jolla.com/faq for where you should put these libs. HTH :) Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] [update] Hotfix to update1 (1.0.1.10 - 1.0.1.12)
Hi Simo, I had the same issue. And I was a little afraid in the first moment ;-) But rebooting fixed it and it works again. Best regards Alexander On 17.12.2013 20:34, Simo Salo wrote: To Development Team After the 1.0.1.12 update my Jolla device remained black (did not come back to system screen). Had to boot the device. That did help though! :D Regards Simo 2013/12/17 Jani Kotakoski jani.kotako...@gmail.com mailto:jani.kotako...@gmail.com Dear Bernd, after update to 1.0.1.12 http://1.0.1.12, jolla-gallery stopped showing some of the images. They appear as thumbnails, but all other views show them as empty. As far as I know, I haven't done any ther changes with the device. Cheers, Jani Bernd Wachter bernd.wach...@jolla.com mailto:bernd.wach...@jolla.com kirjoitti: Hi all, we just discovered an issue in both 1.0.0.5 http://1.0.0.5 and 1.0.1.10 http://1.0.1.10 today which causes update of the store token required for accessing store repositories to fail. A fix for that has been pushed a few minutes ago: The update to version 1.0.1.12 http://1.0.1.12 you might be seeing on your device soon contains exactly this one fix to keep store access working. Bernd SailfishOS.org http://SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Dr. Jani Kotakoski from Jolla. Please excuse my brewity. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
