Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-28 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
I tried to check what was wrong with the contacts, but could not figure it out.
As workaround, i did import most important contacts as vcf.

Just few minutes ago, there were again contacts missing from the people app. 

I was fustrated, and started to write this email. Then wanted to check again 
was one of the vcf imported contacts missing... and now search did found 
them... and i did locate them from the aplhabetic list. wtf.

Also if i look to the list, there is 7 entries starting with Jari  but when i 
search, i can see only 3 of them and one another Jari.

So, i claim that the people app showing names is doing something wrong.

And then, i have one contact in google and in exchange with the same name. 
Exchange has phone number, but i can't see it in the phone - i can see only 
google email.

-kimmo



Lähettäjä: Kimmo Lindholm
Lähetetty: 23. joulukuuta 2013 00:02
Vastaanottaja: Sailfish OS Developers
Aihe: RE: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, 
my colleagues are very busy working there :)
Good that they are busy  :)

do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that 
they are under some category you don't expect in people app ?

I expect to have them all in people app.
...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts 
side. strange thing.

I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading 
Company: (None) [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: 
(ei mitään)]
Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are 
not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I 
test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd).

All my mailing lists are also in this second section.
If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear 
into people app.

(our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care)

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread AL13N
 I like it!

 But then again I knew I would ;)

 However as it is a beta release of the software, here's my list of issues
 collected so far.

 Mail client:
[...]
 - Cover shows 0 unread although both current folder and inbox has unread
 msgs.


this is probably not the unread, but recent, ie: new unread since last
check, this is a default imap function... (or it could still be a bug)

i would not like that, cause i have 78325 unread emails :-( ...


[...]
 Notes:

 - When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the
 body
 base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for
 vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that
 format.

I believe that's called carddav ... something that people have been asking
support for with caldav...

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Valerio Valerio

HI,


On 21/12/13 20:05, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:

I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that
when a friend was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter
account showing up on the notification screen  stuff from Twitter on
it.

Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though – I log
in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again.

I have google account and twitter both working fine.
Exchange is not syncing all contacts is most blocking issue I have now.


did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with 
update1)
There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that 
we don't support, causing not all contacts and events to be 
synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such problems 
anymore.


Best regards,

Valério

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with
update1)
There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that we 
don't support, causing not all contacts 
and events to be synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such 
problems anymore.

uh. you are aware... 
btw, thanks for this tip. I have been really frustrated as 2/3 of my exchange 
contacts were missing...
Just recreated Exchange account and now there is only 1/6 missing.
So not completely fixed yet. (Zendesk ticket #2475)

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Valerio Valerio

On 22/12/13 21:33, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:

did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with
update1)
There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that we 
don't support, causing not all contacts
and events to be synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such 
problems anymore.

uh. you are aware...


I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's 
needed, my colleagues are very busy working there :)

btw, thanks for this tip. I have been really frustrated as 2/3 of my exchange 
contacts were missing...
Just recreated Exchange account and now there is only 1/6 missing.


do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be 
that they are under some category you don't expect in people app ?


Best regards,

Valério

So not completely fixed yet. (Zendesk ticket #2475)

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Sunday 22 December 2013 20:06 AL13N wrote:
 i would not like that, cause i have 78325 unread emails  ...

Clean up you inbox man ;)

  Notes:
  
  - When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the
  body
  base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for
  vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that
  format.
 
 I believe that's called carddav ... something that people have been asking
 support for with caldav...

Cal- and CardDAV are WebDAV extensions for calendars and address books [*].

I just meant that VNOTE is not very widely used, and making it base64 encoded 
doesn't make it easier ;)
When sharing a Note it should just be plain text.

[*] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6352

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, 
my colleagues are very busy working there :)
Good that they are busy  :)

do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that 
they are under some category you don't expect in people app ?

I expect to have them all in people app.
...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts 
side. strange thing.

I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading 
Company: (None) [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: 
(ei mitään)]
Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are 
not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I 
test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd).

All my mailing lists are also in this second section.
If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear 
into people app.

(our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care)

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Valerio Valerio

On 22/12/13 22:02, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:

I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, my 
colleagues are very busy working there :)

Good that they are busy  :)


do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that they 
are under some category you don't expect in people app ?

I expect to have them all in people app.
...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts 
side. strange thing.

I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading Company: 
(None) [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: (ei mitään)]
Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are 
not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I 
test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd).


Manual sync from email inbox brings any changes from server, company 
name should not matter unless all other details are empty(first and last 
name mainly), they are anyway synced but people app seems to not display 
them since they don't have a 'name', but please note that they need to 
be all in the same contacts folder, since we sync only one, the default 
one. If you find some patter please let me know I can investigate.


Best regards,

Valério


All my mailing lists are also in this second section.
If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear 
into people app.

(our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care)

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote:
 21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus:
  - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for
  credentials.
  
  - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option
  in messages.
 
 I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that
 when a friend
 was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing
 up on the
 notification screen  stuff from Twitter on it.

Magically XMPP started working, but there still are some quirks.

- Under Notifications-Show presence details it lists the two different 
accounts as jabber and jabber instead of showing the XMPP address.

- Under [1] it says: Tapping on the word Type lets you switch between SMS 
and IM. I see no Type anywhere in the app?

[1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Kimmo Lindholm


- Under [1] it says: Tapping on the word Type lets you switch between SMS
and IM. I see no Type anywhere in the app?

[1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10


This is shown only when started to enter a message (and before you have entered 
anything) to a person whos account has both SMS and IM contact info.
I have seen this at least with google and SMS. It is in place of send.

-kimmo

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Monday 23 December 2013 01:25 Thomas Tanghus wrote:
 On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote:
  21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus:
   - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for
   credentials.
   
   - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an
   option
   in messages.
  
  I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that
  when a friend
  was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing
  up on the
  notification screen  stuff from Twitter on it.
 
 Magically XMPP started working, but there still are some quirks.

Inspired by the belated success I decided to give Twitter account a go again, 
and now it works properly and opens browser for oAuth authorization \o/

It's nice for a quick overview, and their mobile web app works OK, but a 
native client that integrates with the OS/UX would be nicer.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-22 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Monday 23 December 2013 00:44 Kimmo Lindholm wrote:
 - Under [1] it says: Tapping on the word Type lets you switch between
 SMS and IM. I see no Type anywhere in the app?
 
 [1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10
 
 This is shown only when started to enter a message (and before you have
 entered anything) to a person whos account has both SMS and IM contact
 info. I have seen this at least with google and SMS. It is in place of
 send.

Mysteriously now it shows..? Even says Change type instead of just Type.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Martin Kolman

21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus:

- Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for credentials.

- XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option in
messages.
I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that 
when a friend
was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing 
up on the

notification screen  stuff from Twitter on it.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Kondou
 I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that
 when a friend
 was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing
 up on the
 notification screen  stuff from Twitter on it.

Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though –
I log in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
 I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that 
 when a friend was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter 
 account showing up on the notification screen  stuff from Twitter on 
 it.

Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though – I log 
in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again.

I have google account and twitter both working fine. 
Exchange is not syncing all contacts is most blocking issue I have now.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Ville Tiensuu

Hello list,

I got my Jolla yesterday.
Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work.
The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using phone 
as a verification method it just says wrong landcode or something like 
that.

I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't work.
Sometimes the network connection of only android applications doesn't 
work, and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android networking.


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Markus Svensson
Hi guys,

I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the Yandex 
store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both activities 
before applying the OTA software update, IIRC.

Regards,
Markus

Skickat från min iPhone

 21 dec 2013 kl. 21:51 skrev Ville Tiensuu vi...@tiensuu.eu:
 
 Hello list,
 
 I got my Jolla yesterday.
 Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work.
 The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using phone as a 
 verification method it just says wrong landcode or something like that.
 I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't work.
 Sometimes the network connection of only android applications doesn't work, 
 and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android networking.
 
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 vi...@tiensuu.eu
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:05 Markus Svensson wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the
 Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both
 activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC.

That may be of importance. I did the update right away before anything else.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Martin Kolman

21.12.2013 22:10, Thomas Tanghus:

On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:05 Markus Svensson wrote:

Hi guys,

I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the
Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both
activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC.

That may be of importance. I did the update right away before anything else.

Did the same thing.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Ville Tiensuu
Yeah, i also updated the 
device before doing anything.

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   	Martin Kolman  
  21. joulukuuta 
2013 23.30
  Did the same thing.
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   	Thomas Tanghus  
  21. joulukuuta 
2013 23.10
  That may be of 
importance. I did the update right away before anything else.
   	   
   	Markus Svensson  
  21. joulukuuta 
2013 23.05
  Hi guys,I also 
received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the Yandex 
store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both 
activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC.Regards,MarkusSkickat
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   	Ville Tiensuu  
  21. joulukuuta 
2013 22.51
  Hello list,

I got my Jolla yesterday.
Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work.
The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using 
phone 
as a verification method it just says "wrong landcode" or something like
 
that.
I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't 
work.
Sometimes the network connection of only android applications 
doesn't 
work, and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android 
networking.

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   	Thomas Tanghus  
  21. joulukuuta 
2013 21.44
  I like it!But then
 again I knew I would ;)However as it is a beta release of the 
software, here's my list of issues collected so far.Mail 
client:- Folder hierarchy is messed up. Folders within folders 
appear what looks to be totally randomly. I have an IMAP folder 
named Lists, which contains sub-folders for the mailing lists I 
subscribe to. They show scattered around in the list. Indented, but 
not under their parent folder.- From address doesn't contain 
name, only email. When you send an email From is "u...@example.com" 
instead of "Jolla User u...@example.com". When you've filled
 out the details when you started using the phone, why not use them; or even
 better have it as a setting per mail account.- In-Reply-To 
missing: When you reply to a mail no In-Reply-To header is added which
 breaks threading in mail clients that support that.- Does it 
honor Reply-To: When replying to a mail the client always uses From instead
 of Reply-To.- Select folders to sync and notify about. I'm not 
the first to have that feature request ;)- When deleting 
mails on IMAP they are moved to Trash folder, but not marked as 
read. Minor detail, but would be nice.- Gets stuck or shows no 
progress when loading large folders. A spinner in the middle would 
be enough.- Cover shows 0 unread although both current folder 
and inbox has unread msgs. Browser:- Opens last 
visited instead of homepage (or cannot set homepage).- Can't 
change default search engine to other than the predefined 3. I prefer to
 use https://duckduckgo.com/ but the browser doesn't support adding it 
as search engine. I guess https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Adding_search_engines_from_web_pages
 is what's used. The browser in N9(50) supports that FWIW ;)-
 Changing URL, finding bookmarks etc. very unintuitive unless you've 
read the guide. It could be a simple matter of changing the icon. An
 icon that shows the number of tabs doesn't indicate that that's 
where you edit the URL, send a link etc.Accounts:-
 Error handling and reporting!- Twitter: Says Creating account
 then nothing. Doesn't ask for credentials.- XMPP: Silently 
fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option in messages.
 Notes:- When sharing a note by email it gets sent 
as an attached VNOTE with the body base64 encoded and with a vcf 
extension which I thought was reserved for vCards?. I for one don't 
have any applications that can handle that format. Tha-tha-that's
 it - for today. Enjoy the holidays and have a well deserved rest :)


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1

2013-12-21 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Sunday 22 December 2013 00:37 Ville Tiensuu wrote:

 Yeah, i also updated the device before doing anything.

OK, so it's not a regression.

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