Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
I tried to check what was wrong with the contacts, but could not figure it out. As workaround, i did import most important contacts as vcf. Just few minutes ago, there were again contacts missing from the people app. I was fustrated, and started to write this email. Then wanted to check again was one of the vcf imported contacts missing... and now search did found them... and i did locate them from the aplhabetic list. wtf. Also if i look to the list, there is 7 entries starting with "Jari" but when i search, i can see only 3 of them and one another Jari. So, i claim that the people app showing names is doing something wrong. And then, i have one contact in google and in exchange with the same name. Exchange has phone number, but i can't see it in the phone - i can see only google email. -kimmo Lähettäjä: Kimmo Lindholm Lähetetty: 23. joulukuuta 2013 00:02 Vastaanottaja: Sailfish OS Developers Aihe: RE: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1 >I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, >my colleagues are very busy working there :) Good that they are busy :) >do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that >they are under some category you don't expect >in people app ? I expect to have them all in people app. ...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts side. strange thing. I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading "Company: (None)" [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: (ei mitään)] Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd). All my mailing lists are also in this second section. If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear into people app. (our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Monday 23 December 2013 00:44 Kimmo Lindholm wrote: > >- Under [1] it says: "Tapping on the word "Type" lets you switch between > >SMS and IM." I see no "Type" anywhere in the app? > > > >[1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10 > > This is shown only when started to enter a message (and before you have > entered anything) to a person whos account has both SMS and IM contact > info. I have seen this at least with google and SMS. It is in place of > "send". Mysteriously now it shows..? Even says "Change type" instead of just "Type". -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Monday 23 December 2013 01:25 Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote: > > 21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus: > > > - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for > > > credentials. > > > > > > - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an > > > option > > > in messages. > > > > I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that > > when a friend > > was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing > > up on the > > notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. > > Magically XMPP started working, but there still are some quirks. Inspired by the belated success I decided to give Twitter account a go again, and now it works properly and opens browser for oAuth authorization \o/ It's nice for a quick overview, and their mobile web app works OK, but a native client that integrates with the OS/UX would be nicer. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
>- Under [1] it says: "Tapping on the word "Type" lets you switch between SMS >and IM." I see no "Type" anywhere in the app? > >[1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10 > This is shown only when started to enter a message (and before you have entered anything) to a person whos account has both SMS and IM contact info. I have seen this at least with google and SMS. It is in place of "send". -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote: > 21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus: > > - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for > > credentials. > > > > - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option > > in messages. > > I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that > when a friend > was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing > up on the > notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. Magically XMPP started working, but there still are some quirks. - Under Notifications->Show presence details it lists the two different accounts as jabber and jabber instead of showing the XMPP address. - Under [1] it says: "Tapping on the word "Type" lets you switch between SMS and IM." I see no "Type" anywhere in the app? [1] http://jolla.com/guide/#sec-10 -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On 22/12/13 22:02, Kimmo Lindholm wrote: I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, my colleagues are very busy working there :) Good that they are busy :) do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that they are under some category you don't expect >in people app ? I expect to have them all in people app. ...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts side. strange thing. I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading "Company: (None)" [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: (ei mitään)] Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd). Manual sync from email inbox brings any changes from server, company name should not matter unless all other details are empty(first and last name mainly), they are anyway synced but people app seems to not display them since they don't have a 'name', but please note that they need to be all in the same contacts folder, since we sync only one, the default one. If you find some patter please let me know I can investigate. Best regards, Valério All my mailing lists are also in this second section. If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear into people app. (our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
>I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, >my colleagues are very busy working there :) Good that they are busy :) >do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that >they are under some category you don't expect >in people app ? I expect to have them all in people app. ...now when the list is shorter I can see common thing in Outlook contacts side. strange thing. I did group contact list by Company, I can see two sections with heading "Company: (None)" [Just guessing what it could be in English, it says Yritys: (ei mitään)] Contacts in the first section are in people app, but contacts in second are not. Seems that all contacts in with some company name appears in the list. I test now to add company name to one of them and didn't help (or not yet sync'd). All my mailing lists are also in this second section. If I create new contact, it goes to this second section and does not appear into people app. (our exchange version 12.1 - this they did ask from care) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Sunday 22 December 2013 20:06 AL13N wrote: > i would not like that, cause i have 78325 unread emails ... Clean up you inbox man ;) > > Notes: > > > > - When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the > > body > > base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for > > vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that > > format. > > I believe that's called carddav ... something that people have been asking > support for with caldav... Cal- and CardDAV are WebDAV extensions for calendars and address books [*]. I just meant that VNOTE is not very widely used, and making it base64 encoded doesn't make it easier ;) When sharing a Note it should just be plain text. [*] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6352 -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On 22/12/13 21:33, Kimmo Lindholm wrote: did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with update1) There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that we don't support, causing not all contacts and events to be synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such problems anymore. uh. you are aware... I don't work at care :), it takes some time to reach me in case it's needed, my colleagues are very busy working there :) btw, thanks for this tip. I have been really frustrated as 2/3 of my exchange contacts were missing... Just recreated Exchange account and now there is only 1/6 missing. do you have first and last name for those in the server side ? can be that they are under some category you don't expect in people app ? Best regards, Valério So not completely fixed yet. (Zendesk ticket #2475) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
>did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with >update1) >There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that we >don't support, causing not all contacts >and events to be synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such >problems anymore. uh. you are aware... btw, thanks for this tip. I have been really frustrated as 2/3 of my exchange contacts were missing... Just recreated Exchange account and now there is only 1/6 missing. So not completely fixed yet. (Zendesk ticket #2475) -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
HI, On 21/12/13 20:05, Kimmo Lindholm wrote: I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that when a friend was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing up on the notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though – I log in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again. I have google account and twitter both working fine. Exchange is not syncing all contacts is most blocking issue I have now. did you recreate the account after latest exchange update ?(along with update1) There was a bug related to servers that prefer Exchange version 14 that we don't support, causing not all contacts and events to be synchronized, but this is fixed now, we are not aware of such problems anymore. Best regards, Valério ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
> I like it! > > But then again I knew I would ;) > > However as it is a beta release of the software, here's my list of issues > collected so far. > > Mail client: [...] > - Cover shows 0 unread although both current folder and inbox has unread > msgs. this is probably not the unread, but recent, ie: new unread since last check, this is a default imap function... (or it could still be a bug) i would not like that, cause i have 78325 unread emails :-( ... [...] > Notes: > > - When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the > body > base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for > vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that > format. I believe that's called carddav ... something that people have been asking support for with caldav... ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Sunday 22 December 2013 00:37 Ville Tiensuu wrote: > Yeah, i also updated the device before doing anything. OK, so it's not a regression. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
Yeah, i also updated the device before doing anything. -- Ville Tiensuu vi...@tiensuu.eu Martin Kolman 21. joulukuuta 2013 23.30 Did the same thing. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list Thomas Tanghus 21. joulukuuta 2013 23.10 That may be of importance. I did the update right away before anything else. Markus Svensson 21. joulukuuta 2013 23.05 Hi guys,I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC.Regards,MarkusSkickat från min iPhone___SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list Ville Tiensuu 21. joulukuuta 2013 22.51 Hello list, I got my Jolla yesterday. Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work. The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using phone as a verification method it just says "wrong landcode" or something like that. I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't work. Sometimes the network connection of only android applications doesn't work, and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android networking. -- Ville Tiensuu vi...@tiensuu.eu ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list Thomas Tanghus 21. joulukuuta 2013 21.44 I like it!But then again I knew I would ;)However as it is a beta release of the software, here's my list of issues collected so far.Mail client:- Folder hierarchy is messed up. Folders within folders appear what looks to be totally randomly. I have an IMAP folder named Lists, which contains sub-folders for the mailing lists I subscribe to. They show scattered around in the list. Indented, but not under their parent folder.- From address doesn't contain name, only email. When you send an email From is "u...@example.com" instead of "Jolla User ". When you've filled out the details when you started using the phone, why not use them; or even better have it as a setting per mail account.- In-Reply-To missing: When you reply to a mail no In-Reply-To header is added which breaks threading in mail clients that support that.- Does it honor Reply-To: When replying to a mail the client always uses From instead of Reply-To.- Select folders to sync and notify about. I'm not the first to have that feature request ;)- When deleting mails on IMAP they are moved to Trash folder, but not marked as read. Minor detail, but would be nice.- Gets stuck or shows no progress when loading large folders. A spinner in the middle would be enough.- Cover shows 0 unread although both current folder and inbox has unread msgs. Browser:- Opens last visited instead of homepage (or cannot set homepage).- Can't change default search engine to other than the predefined 3. I prefer to use https://duckduckgo.com/ but the browser doesn't support adding it as search engine. I guess https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Adding_search_engines_from_web_pages is what's used. The browser in N9(50) supports that FWIW ;)- Changing URL, finding bookmarks etc. very unintuitive unless you've read the guide. It could be a simple matter of changing the icon. An icon that shows the number of tabs doesn't indicate that that's where you edit the URL, send a link etc.Accounts:- Error handling and reporting!- Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for credentials.- XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option in messages. Notes:- When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the body base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that format. Tha-tha-that's it - for today. Enjoy the holidays and have a well deserved rest :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
21.12.2013 22:10, Thomas Tanghus: On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:05 Markus Svensson wrote: Hi guys, I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC. That may be of importance. I did the update right away before anything else. Did the same thing. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Saturday 21 December 2013 22:05 Markus Svensson wrote: > Hi guys, > > I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the > Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both > activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC. That may be of importance. I did the update right away before anything else. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
Hi guys, I also received my device yesterday. I was able to both register in the Yandex store as well as register my Google account. I did perform both activities before applying the OTA software update, IIRC. Regards, Markus Skickat från min iPhone > 21 dec 2013 kl. 21:51 skrev Ville Tiensuu : > > Hello list, > > I got my Jolla yesterday. > Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work. > The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using phone as a > verification method it just says "wrong landcode" or something like that. > I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't work. > Sometimes the network connection of only android applications doesn't work, > and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android networking. > > -- > Ville Tiensuu > vi...@tiensuu.eu > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
Using dukgo.com as well, I had no problems yet and have performed a couple of chats. Only hope OTR will be a future expansion. Cheers On Saturday, December 21, 2013 09:10:58 PM Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote: > > 21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus: > > > - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for > > > credentials. > > > > > > - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an > > > option > > > in messages. > > To elaborate on the XMPP issues. Under the "Show presence details" from > Events my jabber.org account showed up under "Controlled services", but > it's still not reachable from Messages. My dukgo.com account doesn't show > at all except in the list of accounts. > > > I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that > > when a friend > > was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing > > up on the > > notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
Hello list, I got my Jolla yesterday. Today i discovered that registering to Yandex store doesn't work. The captcha doesn't show up in the registration, and if i'm using phone as a verification method it just says "wrong landcode" or something like that. I can also confirm that Twitter and Google account adding won't work. Sometimes the network connection of only android applications doesn't work, and then you have to reboot the phone to fix the android networking. -- Ville Tiensuu vi...@tiensuu.eu ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
On Saturday 21 December 2013 20:56 Martin Kolman wrote: > 21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus: > > - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for > > credentials. > > > > - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option > > in messages. To elaborate on the XMPP issues. Under the "Show presence details" from Events my jabber.org account showed up under "Controlled services", but it's still not reachable from Messages. My dukgo.com account doesn't show at all except in the list of accounts. > I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that > when a friend > was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing > up on the > notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
>> I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that >> when a friend was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter >> account showing up on the notification screen & stuff from Twitter on >> it. > >Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though – I log >in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again. I have google account and twitter both working fine. Exchange is not syncing all contacts is most blocking issue I have now. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
> I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that > when a friend > was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing > up on the > notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. Twitter is working fine for me, my google account doesn't work though – I log in and when looking again 5 minutes later I'm logged out again. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
21.12.2013 20:44, Thomas Tanghus: - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for credentials. - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option in messages. I can confirm having both of those issues. But the weird thing is that when a friend was showing me his Jolla, I'm quite sure he had Twitter account showing up on the notification screen & stuff from Twitter on it. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Jolla owner - day 1
I like it! But then again I knew I would ;) However as it is a beta release of the software, here's my list of issues collected so far. Mail client: - Folder hierarchy is messed up. Folders within folders appear what looks to be totally randomly. I have an IMAP folder named Lists, which contains sub- folders for the mailing lists I subscribe to. They show scattered around in the list. Indented, but not under their parent folder. - From address doesn't contain name, only email. When you send an email From is "u...@example.com" instead of "Jolla User ". When you've filled out the details when you started using the phone, why not use them; or even better have it as a setting per mail account. - In-Reply-To missing: When you reply to a mail no In-Reply-To header is added which breaks threading in mail clients that support that. - Does it honor Reply-To: When replying to a mail the client always uses From instead of Reply-To. - Select folders to sync and notify about. I'm not the first to have that feature request ;) - When deleting mails on IMAP they are moved to Trash folder, but not marked as read. Minor detail, but would be nice. - Gets stuck or shows no progress when loading large folders. A spinner in the middle would be enough. - Cover shows 0 unread although both current folder and inbox has unread msgs. Browser: - Opens last visited instead of homepage (or cannot set homepage). - Can't change default search engine to other than the predefined 3. I prefer to use https://duckduckgo.com/ but the browser doesn't support adding it as search engine. I guess https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Adding_search_engines_from_web_pages is what's used. The browser in N9(50) supports that FWIW ;) - Changing URL, finding bookmarks etc. very unintuitive unless you've read the guide. It could be a simple matter of changing the icon. An icon that shows the number of tabs doesn't indicate that that's where you edit the URL, send a link etc. Accounts: - Error handling and reporting! - Twitter: Says »Creating account« then nothing. Doesn't ask for credentials. - XMPP: Silently fails on certificate error. Doesn't show up as an option in messages. Notes: - When sharing a note by email it gets sent as an attached VNOTE with the body base64 encoded and with a vcf extension which I thought was reserved for vCards?. I for one don't have any applications that can handle that format. Tha-tha-that's it - for today. Enjoy the holidays and have a well deserved rest :) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list