Re: [digitalradio] External Hard drives
Another solution is to boot the machine via CD using a knoppix CD or knoppix-based ham distribution like Harv's Hamshack. You can have it automatically mount a home directory off a usb key or off a file on the windows disk. That way you get linux, and zero or a very minimal footprint on the laptop - as well as persistence of any config, logs etc. This works with desktop machines as well - as long as you can boot them from a CD. 73 de Brett VK2TMG
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I am suggesting a 2.5" HDD caddy, like these: http://newmode.us/caddies/ If you are lucky to get a new laptop, you simply purchase the appropriate caddy and move the HDD into it. I will speculate the vast majority of digital radio reflector subscribers are from the "roll your own" camp. The idea that an IT department would hand you a new laptop, have all the applications setup, have all the login scripts created, all the forced password renewals installed, and have your access to the operating system locked out... is a little hard to believe. But this is the reality in most corporations today. IF Andy works for a company that has no IT department (or has weak IT policies), he may have free reign over the laptop configuration. IF NOT, my solution is the safest way to keep his business use and personal use of the company asset separated. For the rest of us who "roll our own"... maybe you're lucky to work in the IT department. If not, you might be participating in a "career limiting activity". When it involved our corporate network/computer security, I have personally seen more than one person walked out the front door. In any case, I am way off topic for the Digitalradio Forum. Sometimes I get up on the soapbox. I do hope I shed some light on methods companies use to keep their computer environments "safe". 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN - Original Message - From: Salomao Fresco To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets replaced for instace for another brand? The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly installed. And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of the SO of your choice and make it bootable. I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it. The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen drive. Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files. Think of it. Regards On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's > problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the > part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). > Read on. > > Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to > reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap > into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a > corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are > the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and > manage desktop machines. > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the > laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and > that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the > drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. > > Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal > applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications > at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal > drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you > are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be > written up in your permanent record. > > If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the > nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap > around the world. > > I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT > staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has > been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if > there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a > "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. > > 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN > > > - Original Message - > From: Salomao Fresco > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > > Hi to all! > > I believe there is a big confusion! > > On the first post Andy states this: > I just got a new company laptop. > > What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and > color of the power cables? > He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. > He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. > > He only wants to know if it is possible to
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Hello! Yes, a second read of Bob's message clarified me. I'm sorry for the missinterpretation of it. On 12/30/06, Dave Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob did not suggest a docking station, Sal, he suggested a second hard drive. I have used his recommended solution with my IBM T42P laptop, and it works extremely well; one can swap "identities" in the time required to terminate Windows and reboot; the physical drive swap takes a few seconds. With respect to your claim that "The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly installed", I suggest that you (carefully) open the Windows Registry editor and examine the Software sections of HKCU and HKLM -- you'll find that DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, and QRZ all maintain settings there. Other popular digital mode applications may as well -- I don't have Digipan, MixW, or MultiPSK currently installed on this PC, and my examination was cursory. There is no way to "properly install" any of DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, or the QRZ CDROM callbook in a way that makes them pen-drive portable. There are web pages that list pen-drive portable applications, e.g. http://pendriveapps.com/ and http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl/article/view/369/656 but I've found no mention of digital mode amateur radio applications so far. Establishing such a list would be helpful, but I suggest that an application only be added after 1. its author asserts that the application is pen-drive portable 2. someone actually tests the application in a pen-drive portable configuration It would also be useful to compare performance in a pen-drive configuration vs. a hard-drive configuration. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. > Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets > replaced for instace for another brand? > > The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the > programs were correctly installed. > And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of > the SO of your choice and make it bootable. > > I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it. > > The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen drive. > > Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is > getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files. > > Think of it. > > Regards > > > On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's > > problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the > > part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). > > Read on. > > > > Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to > > reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap > > into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a > > corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are > > the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and > > manage desktop machines. > > > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the > > laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and > > that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the > > drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. > > > > Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal > > applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications > > at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal > > drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you > > are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be > > written up in your permanent record. > > > > If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the > > nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap > > around the world. > > > > I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT > > staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has > > been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if > > there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a > > "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. > > > > 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Salomao Fresco > > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > > > > > > Hi to all! > > > > I believe there is a big confusion! > > > > On the first post Andy states this: > > I just got a new compan
[digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Bob did not suggest a docking station, Sal, he suggested a second hard drive. I have used his recommended solution with my IBM T42P laptop, and it works extremely well; one can swap "identities" in the time required to terminate Windows and reboot; the physical drive swap takes a few seconds. With respect to your claim that "The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly installed", I suggest that you (carefully) open the Windows Registry editor and examine the Software sections of HKCU and HKLM -- you'll find that DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, and QRZ all maintain settings there. Other popular digital mode applications may as well -- I don't have Digipan, MixW, or MultiPSK currently installed on this PC, and my examination was cursory. There is no way to "properly install" any of DX Atlas, DXLab, Ham Radio Deluxe, LotW, or the QRZ CDROM callbook in a way that makes them pen-drive portable. There are web pages that list pen-drive portable applications, e.g. http://pendriveapps.com/ and http://www.irrodl.org/index.php/irrodl/article/view/369/656 but I've found no mention of digital mode amateur radio applications so far. Establishing such a list would be helpful, but I suggest that an application only be added after 1. its author asserts that the application is pen-drive portable 2. someone actually tests the application in a pen-drive portable configuration It would also be useful to compare performance in a pen-drive configuration vs. a hard-drive configuration. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. > Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets > replaced for instace for another brand? > > The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the > programs were correctly installed. > And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of > the SO of your choice and make it bootable. > > I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it. > > The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen drive. > > Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is > getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files. > > Think of it. > > Regards > > > On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's > > problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the > > part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). > > Read on. > > > > Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to > > reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap > > into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a > > corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are > > the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and > > manage desktop machines. > > > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the > > laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and > > that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the > > drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. > > > > Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal > > applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications > > at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal > > drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you > > are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be > > written up in your permanent record. > > > > If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the > > nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap > > around the world. > > > > I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT > > staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has > > been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if > > there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a > > "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. > > > > 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Salomao Fresco > > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > > > > > > Hi to all! > > > > I believe there is a big confusion! > > > > On the first post Andy states this: > > I just got a new company laptop. > > > > What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and > > color of the p
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Hi! Sorry guys, but my last message was posted twice. On 12/30/06, Bill Vodall WA7NWP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive Could try a Virtual PC disk image on the thumb drive. Then everyting is installed there and it's a simple file to delete when you're done. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: 17M: 18103.4 20M: Primary:14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 Digital Voice: 14236 30M Primary:10.142 Secondary 10.144 40M Region 2: 7073 Region 1/3: 7039 80M Primary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 Announce your presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- Cumprimentos Salomão Fresco CT2IRJ If it works... dont fix it!
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Hi! I used to use mine at work to get the latest keplers and other stuff, before I have an internet connection at home. On 12/30/06, Danny Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pen drives are very handy. For instance, I use mine, leaving it in the computer all the time, to do backup logs. The LogKeeper program is set up so that everytime a contact is logged on the normal log file, it is also sent to the pen drive and logged there. So- if I loose the hard drive, I still have an up-to-date and complete log file to recover with. Easier and faster than copying the logs to a CD on a daily basis, which is what I used to do. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets replaced for instace for another brand? Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies: 17M: 18103.4 20M: Primary:14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 Digital Voice: 14236 30M Primary:10.142 Secondary 10.144 40M Region 2: 7073 Region 1/3: 7039 80M Primary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 Announce your presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- Cumprimentos Salomão Fresco CT2IRJ If it works... dont fix it!
[digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Its unfortunately a little more complicated than that, Larry. An IDE or ATA 66/100 controller can indeed be connected to two hard drives -- a master and a slave -- with an appropriate cable. However, each drive can be jumpered as "always master", "always slave", or "cable select"; the later means that each drive is set to master or slave by the cable connectors. To keep things interesting, not all IDE cables are wired to perform "cable select". The penalty for an incorrect IDE configuration is system that won't boot Windows. I've not yet managed to lose data, but I would never play this game without first making and verifying backups for all of the data on the all of the drives involved. If you're building or buying a new computer, consider Serial ATA (SATA) drives; their data is moved serially, so the cables are narrower and thus block less airflow, and they are point-to-point rather than daisy-chained like IDE. In general, you can purchase larger and faster drives with SATA interfaces, but they also cost more. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "larry allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the > others are marked as slaves > The marking is a jumper .. > On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... > The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... > The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, > black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the > colours > The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains > jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard > drive is a slave or master drive... > On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which > tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... > You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave > This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer > including removing them should you desire > I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out and > put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C my > newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available > Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope the > information was of some value... > > Larry ve3fxq > > > > - Original Message - > From: "jhaynesatalumni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:33 PM > Subject: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > Isn't somebody selling a thumb drive that is all configured so > everything runs out of it and doesn't touch the computer hard > drive? Seems like I was reading about a product like this that > was to make it safe to use a public computer for your private > work. >
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Pen drives are very handy. For instance, I use mine, leaving it in the computer all the time, to do backup logs. The LogKeeper program is set up so that everytime a contact is logged on the normal log file, it is also sent to the pen drive and logged there. So- if I loose the hard drive, I still have an up-to-date and complete log file to recover with. Easier and faster than copying the logs to a CD on a daily basis, which is what I used to do. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets replaced for instace for another brand?
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> > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive Could try a Virtual PC disk image on the thumb drive. Then everyting is installed there and it's a simple file to delete when you're done. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
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Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets replaced for instace for another brand? The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly installed. And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of the SO of your choice and make it bootable. I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it. The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen drive. Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files. Think of it. Regards On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's > problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the > part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). > Read on. > > Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to > reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap > into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a > corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are > the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and > manage desktop machines. > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the > laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and > that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the > drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. > > Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal > applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications > at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal > drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you > are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be > written up in your permanent record. > > If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the > nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap > around the world. > > I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT > staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has > been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if > there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a > "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. > > 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN > > > - Original Message - > From: Salomao Fresco > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > > Hi to all! > > I believe there is a big confusion! > > On the first post Andy states this: > I just got a new company laptop. > > What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and > color of the power cables? > He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. > He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. > > He only wants to know if it is possible to load the Ham radio software > that he needs to work digi modes on a External Hard Disk. > I answer him YES, but there is no need to do it, why don't you try a Pen > Drive, there are lots on the market now and the prices are low enough, I > bought one with 1Gb for 19,99 euros a few months ago. > > How to use it? > Instead of installing the software in the Computers own hard disk, install > it on the flash drive (pen). > This way you can use work your digimodes in about any computer. (it might > not work with all programs, because some of them need to install some files > in the Windows folder). > > > > Regards & Happy new 2007 > > Sal > > On 12/29/06, Dave Doc Corio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be > sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many > computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on > the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC > at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. > Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax > a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of > these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if > you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - > on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! > > 73 > Dave > KB3MOW > > > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of > swapping > > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Well, I believe your solution is way more complicated to perform. Besides, what use will have the docking station if the laptop gets replaced for instace for another brand? The USB PEN drive will work on almost every computer provided that the programs were correctly installed. And there is enough space on a 2Gb pen drive to install a version of the SO of your choice and make it bootable. I know what I'm talking, because I've allready done it. The docking station is waaay more expensive than the 20 bucks of a pen drive. Give it a try, if it doesn't work, the worst that can happen is getting "stuck with" a usb pen drive that can carrie a lot of files. Think of it. Regards On 12/30/06, Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's > problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the > part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). > Read on. > > Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to > reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap > into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a > corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are > the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and > manage desktop machines. > > The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the > laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and > that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the > drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. > > Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal > applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications > at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal > drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you > are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be > written up in your permanent record. > > If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the > nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap > around the world. > > I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT > staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has > been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if > there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a > "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. > > 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN > > > - Original Message - > From: Salomao Fresco > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? > > > > Hi to all! > > I believe there is a big confusion! > > On the first post Andy states this: > I just got a new company laptop. > > What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and > color of the power cables? > He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. > He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. > > He only wants to know if it is possible to load the Ham radio software > that he needs to work digi modes on a External Hard Disk. > I answer him YES, but there is no need to do it, why don't you try a Pen > Drive, there are lots on the market now and the prices are low enough, I > bought one with 1Gb for 19,99 euros a few months ago. > > How to use it? > Instead of installing the software in the Computers own hard disk, install > it on the flash drive (pen). > This way you can use work your digimodes in about any computer. (it might > not work with all programs, because some of them need to install some files > in the Windows folder). > > > > Regards & Happy new 2007 > > Sal > > On 12/29/06, Dave Doc Corio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be > sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many > computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on > the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC > at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. > Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax > a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of > these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if > you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - > on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! > > 73 > Dave > KB3MOW > > > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of > swapping > > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Well in christ's name (your terminology), your solution doesn't solve Andy's problem of putting personal software on a company computer. You missed the part that the registry is going to get updated (if it is even accessible). Read on. Credible IT departments tie down the operating system very tight in order to reduce the probability of employees hauling worms, viruses, and other crap into the office and spreading it across the Enterprise. I know, I ran a corporate IT department for 8 years. From a pure IT perspective, laptops are the most dangerous PC's on the Enterprise. It's much easier to control and manage desktop machines. The solution I would propose is to purchase a new drive and caddy for the laptop. Typically there is one screw that holds the HDD into the laptop and that screw is accessible from the outside of the case. Depending on the drive size you want, this can be less than a $100 investment. Get your own drive, format it up, load your OS, and install your personal applications. Swap the drives when you want to run your radio applications at home. But be aware if you bring your laptop into work with your personal drive installed, you'll get hauled in front of the CIO to explain why you are putting the company infrastructure in jeopardy. And the incident will be written up in your permanent record. If this sounds blunt and excessive... well you don't understand the nightmares IT departments face, trying to support large networks that wrap around the world. I don't know for whom Andy works, but if it's a large corporation with an IT staff, he may find the screw holding the disk caddy into his new laptop has been superglued into place. My engineers didn't go to that extreme, but if there was a laptop suspected of "issues", it got a fresh format and a "standard build" of corporate licensed software installed. 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN - Original Message - From: Salomao Fresco To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Hi to all! I believe there is a big confusion! On the first post Andy states this: I just got a new company laptop. What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and color of the power cables? He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. He only wants to know if it is possible to load the Ham radio software that he needs to work digi modes on a External Hard Disk. I answer him YES, but there is no need to do it, why don't you try a Pen Drive, there are lots on the market now and the prices are low enough, I bought one with 1Gb for 19,99 euros a few months ago. How to use it? Instead of installing the software in the Computers own hard disk, install it on the flash drive (pen). This way you can use work your digimodes in about any computer. (it might not work with all programs, because some of them need to install some files in the Windows folder). Regards & Happy new 2007 Sal On 12/29/06, Dave Doc Corio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! 73 Dave KB3MOW > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the > others are marked as slaves > The marking is a jumper .. > On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... > The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... > The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, > black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the > colours > The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains > jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard > drive is a slave or master drive... > On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which > tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... > You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave > This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer
[digitalradio] External Hard drives
Hi Andy and the group. If it is a newer laptop, you may find that you can have it boot from and external device, i.e.. USB drive. Check the BIOS settings and see if it can be done.. I have one Laptop, that will do that, and I boot Linux from the External USB Drive. Hope it works for you. Len VE3FJB/VA3LM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Greetings Woops... Please.. I was unable to read the original question... In the old days, each person added his/her comments to a question and created a thread... when we could then read each of the comments and respond accordingly... More recently, in an effort to save on email length, the moderators started to tell us to use only the shortest length of messages... This unfortunately would then leave people like me not really knowing the question but relying on the subsequent answer to interpert the question Yes, I agree the new... 'memory sticks' (I suspect they come with different names)which plug into the usb port... should be your answer... plain and simple... Sorry... Larry ve3fxq - Original Message - From: "Salomao Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Hi to all! I believe there is a big confusion! On the first post Andy states this: *I just got a new company laptop.* What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and color of the power cables? He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. He only wants to know if it is possible to load the Ham radio software that he needs to work digi modes on a External Hard Disk. I answer him YES, but there is no need to do it, why don't you try a Pen Drive, there are lots on the market now and the prices are low enough, I bought one with 1Gb for 19,99 euros a few months ago. How to use it? Instead of installing the software in the Computers own hard disk, install it on the flash drive (pen). This way you can use work your digimodes in about any computer. (it might not work with all programs, because some of them need to install some files in the Windows folder). Regards & Happy new 2007 Sal On 12/29/06, Dave Doc Corio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be > sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. > Many > computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually > on > the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the > PC > at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power > supply. > Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can > tax > a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one > of > these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if > you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly > cheap - > on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! > > 73 > Dave > KB3MOW > > > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of > swapping > > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and > the > > others are marked as slaves > > The marking is a jumper .. > > On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... > > The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... > > The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked > yellow, > > black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the > > colours > > The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains > > jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the > > hard > > drive is a slave or master drive... > > On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which > > tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... > > You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave > > This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing > > computer > > > including removing them should you desire > > I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out > > and > > put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C > my > > newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available > > Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope > the > > information was of some value... > > > > Larry ve3fxq > > > > -- Cumprimentos Salomão Fresco CT2IRJ If it works... dont fix it!
[digitalradio] Re : 30 metre propagation
Hello everyone, That was an interesting observation by Andy K3UK. During the day the band extends about 200-500 miles, this is what I have noticed having made a few contacts into mainland Europe, mostly Germany. I've tried sunset but have heard nothing and had no replies to CQ's, but as for operating at dawn, absolutely no chance, the mouth or brain doesn't function well these days at daybreak ! I seem to recall many years ago when I made some casual visits to 30 metres I was surprised to hear some weak Australian voices. For quite a while there were a couple of Frenchmen who used to chat every day. I haven't heard them for some time so they must have been ordered "off the grass" N7DC seems to be doing quite well on 30 metres, its amazing to me that he can contact so many people. Kind regards, New Year greetings to All, Mel G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Hi to all! I believe there is a big confusion! On the first post Andy states this: *I just got a new company laptop.* What the heck does he need to know about master, slave, falt cables and color of the power cables? He is talking about a laptop for Christ sake. He is asking you the time and you're telling him how the clocks work. He only wants to know if it is possible to load the Ham radio software that he needs to work digi modes on a External Hard Disk. I answer him YES, but there is no need to do it, why don't you try a Pen Drive, there are lots on the market now and the prices are low enough, I bought one with 1Gb for 19,99 euros a few months ago. How to use it? Instead of installing the software in the Computers own hard disk, install it on the flash drive (pen). This way you can use work your digimodes in about any computer. (it might not work with all programs, because some of them need to install some files in the Windows folder). Regards & Happy new 2007 Sal On 12/29/06, Dave Doc Corio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! 73 Dave KB3MOW > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the > others are marked as slaves > The marking is a jumper .. > On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... > The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... > The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, > black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the > colours > The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains > jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard > drive is a slave or master drive... > On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which > tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... > You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave > This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer > including removing them should you desire > I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out and > put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C my > newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available > Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope the > information was of some value... > > Larry ve3fxq > -- Cumprimentos Salomão Fresco CT2IRJ If it works... dont fix it!
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! 73 Dave KB3MOW > A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping > hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the > others are marked as slaves > The marking is a jumper .. > On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... > The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... > The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, > black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the > colours > The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains > jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard > drive is a slave or master drive... > On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which > tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... > You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave > This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer > including removing them should you desire > I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out and > put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C my > newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available > Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope the > information was of some value... > > Larry ve3fxq >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the others are marked as slaves The marking is a jumper .. On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the colours The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard drive is a slave or master drive... On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer including removing them should you desire I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out and put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C my newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope the information was of some value... Larry ve3fxq - Original Message - From: "jhaynesatalumni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives? Isn't somebody selling a thumb drive that is all configured so everything runs out of it and doesn't touch the computer hard drive? Seems like I was reading about a product like this that was to make it safe to use a public computer for your private work.
[digitalradio] 30M activity
Today 30M opened up mid morning for us, had a great QSO on Olivia with W5CRN, who would have been about 2000KM from us. QSO was over 30 minutes long and not much QSB. Band seems to have closed down, no CW heard as of 1800Z beaconing 110baud packet, 3 minute intervals,35 watts, 10137.5 VFO , mailbox on so please try to connect. John VE5MU
[digitalradio] Revised calling frequencies
I have added 40M and 17M suggested calling frequencies to our list. 17M: 18103.4 20M: Primary:14.078.4 Secondary: 14.076.4 Digital Voice: 14236 30M Primary:10.142 Secondary 10.144 40M Region 2: 7073 Region 1/3: 7039 80M Primary : 3583 Secondary: 3584.5 I did not add a secondary frequency for 17 and 40m. I cannot find a 40M frequency that will work for all regions, so I have different frequencies for North America. You will notice that the suggested frequencies are the same, or close to the ones that Bonnie Crystal recommends for Olivia-MFSK on her http://www.hflink.com web site. These should work for our purposes and Bonnie's expressed goal of having a frequency to use that do not involve wandering along your VFO looking for needles in haystacks (she did not say this exactly!). Patrick asked why the decimal point on some frequencies. Some modes are so robust that you will get print even if you hear and see no signal. leaving you software and rig tuned to an exact frequency will allow you to detect signals you would otherwise miss. Some software, like Multipsk, have alarm features that will audibly alert you when a signal is detected. Using precise frequencies may allow you to receive alarms for signals you do not know are there. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Yep, I would not want it to touch the C drive at all, if possible. On 12/29/06, jhaynesatalumni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't somebody selling a thumb drive that is all configured so > everything runs out of it and doesn't touch the computer hard > drive? Seems like I was reading about a product like this that > was to make it safe to use a public computer for your private > work. >
[digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Isn't somebody selling a thumb drive that is all configured so everything runs out of it and doesn't touch the computer hard drive? Seems like I was reading about a product like this that was to make it safe to use a public computer for your private work.
Re: [digitalradio] External hard drives?
On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Andrew O'Brien wrote: > I just got a new company laptop. I'm tempted to occasionally use it > for none-work stuff but do not want to load amateur radio software on > to the C drive. How do the external USB hardrives perform for our > amateur radio needs? > > I'm thinking I could get a external hardrive and keep the digital mode > software on it. > It should work fine, but if your intention is to prevent your radio related software from touching the C drive you are out of luck. Most of the programs out there will update the registry which is located on your C drive. Other than that issue you should be fine. If you were using a OS other than windows, this would not be a problem. -- Alex / AB2RC Running a Linux/Mac installation, where the only windows are in the walls where they belong
[digitalradio] 30M Test
at 1600Z calling CQ Olivia 1000/32 on VFO 10137.5, 1000hz center. too many automatic stations above 140 Propagation right now into the midwest, W7JI from KS is 10+ CW a few minutes ago John VE5MU
[digitalradio] External hard drives?
I just got a new company laptop. I'm tempted to occasionally use it for none-work stuff but do not want to load amateur radio software on to the C drive. How do the external USB hardrives perform for our amateur radio needs? I'm thinking I could get a external hardrive and keep the digital mode software on it. Andy K3UK
