[digitalradio] Automated Launching of Dxkeeper and Commander when Multipsk starts?

2010-01-24 Thread Tony
All,

Is there a way to automatically launch both Dxkeeper and 
Commander when Multipsk is starts? They work well together 
and it would be nice if they launched together.

Just a thought.

Tony -K2MO 


[digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-24 Thread Vojtech
 By synchronous detection, Vojtech, do you mean treating the first start bit
 as the beginning of a synchronous multi-character sequence, thereby
 providing some protection against broken start and stop bits within that
 sequence? Brian K6STI referred to his decoding technique as employing a
 flywheel, which I interpreted as a means of adjusting the synchronous
 timing with high-quality start bits decoded within the sequence.

Dave, 

what I mean is to consider all edge into sync recovery. Most software I know is 
using pretty stable clock and fills the spaces with idle characters. The 
decoder needs to know how long the stop bit is, which may be estimated on the 
air or configured by the user. I suppose 1.5 bit length is the most common? 
Then you may try to search for raising/falling edge at 2x bit speed and slowly 
adjust the sampling point.

Yes, it is some kind of flywheel, that any synchronous decoder like PSK31 
uses.

73, Vojtech OK1IAK




[digitalradio] Re: Automated Launching of Dxkeeper and Commander when Multipsk starts?

2010-01-24 Thread Juergen
If you have DXKeeper installed then you probably have installed DXLab Launcher 
as well. If not then download the Launcher from one of DXLab's download sites, 
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/download.htm , and follow the instructions. 

- Once you have the Launcher installed run it and open its Config-Window. 

-Select the application files for Commander, DXKeeper etc. in the DXLab 
Applications pane. 

-Check the Enable-boxes for Commander and DXKeeper.  

- Select multipsk.exe in one line of the Other Applications pane and check the 
Enable box.

- If you like to start all three applications whenever you start the Launcher 
check Auto Start in the Config-Window as well.

Whenever you like to use all three programs start the Launcher and click on 
start in the Launcher window or - if you have chosen the Auto Start option- all 
programs will launch automatically.

You should be aware, however, that the Launcher will terminate the DXLab 
applications when you click on terminate in the Launcher window but not 
Multipsk. Multipsk needs to be shut down manually.

This configuration works very well at my second qth where I use more or less 
only weak signal modes like Olivia.

73

Juergen, DL8LE


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 All,
 
 Is there a way to automatically launch both Dxkeeper and 
 Commander when Multipsk is starts? They work well together 
 and it would be nice if they launched together.
 
 Just a thought.
 
 Tony -K2MO





Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Andy

I probably was too far out with this off topic , but after a half an
hour listening to the stream I was in chock. I have never heard such bad
language on the band and
since people on this group often write about US regulation I took the
chance to ask.

Yes, the Pinell radio is a great toy. It has over 15,000 Internet radio
stations and Podcasts to choose from.

73 de la5vna Steinar





On 23.01.2010 16:41, Andy obrien wrote:
 Regardless of who is in Govt at the current time, there seems to be an
 increase in the USA of hams who express political opinion over the air.
 When I first became a ham , my mentors explained that expressing political
 opinion over the air was not within the ethics of ham radio.  Alas, this
 view seems to have changed over the years, at least in the USA. 
Interesting
 new Toy, Steinar.


 On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Steinar Aanesland
saa...@broadpark.nowrote:



 Hi all

 I know this is off topic, but I am confused.

 I have a new toy. It is a Internet radio from Pinell (
 http://www.pinell.no/ ) . When I was playing around with it I came
 across a streamed live ham frequency form the net: 
 http://www.3819khz.net/;

 It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
 things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
 here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

 73 la5vna Steinar







Re: [digitalradio] off topic, 3819Khz

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Ackrill
Steinar Aanesland wrote:

 It turned out to be a real hate network. It vomit up extremely bad
 things about the Obama administration. I am not going into the politics
 here, but is this type of network allowed in US on the HAM band ???

There is a widely held misconception about what is, and is not, allowed 
to be discussed on air.

There is always the good sense point of view that certain topics will be 
likely to stir up bad feeling and argument and are, therefore, best 
avoided in the interests of good manners and avoiding embarrassment.

However, legally it is usually the case that politics, religion and sex, 
for example, are not actually banned as subjects for discussion.

That said, from the reports of the group in question, you have to say 
that a) they are talking to other people who hold their views and are 
unlikely to welcome any constructively opposing views and b) once you 
know their callsigns you can avoid having anything to do with them, so 
it's going to be a self inclusive group that is going to show its 
prejudice to anyone that listens for a while.

A long time ago I stopped arguing with people with whom I was unlikely 
to persuade of my argument, or who I wasn't likely to ever be convinced 
of their point of view, as just being a waste of time on both sides.  I 
suspect that groups such as those mentioned fall into this general 
category and I would also include groups who hold similarly extreme 
points of view on the other side of the political argument as well...

A good case in point was a colleague of mine, who was espousing his own 
political point of view about how he thought people should vote in the 
UK the other day.  In conversation over a pint or two I gave him my 
point of view, which he didn't accept, but I guess we agreed to differ 
and left it at that.  Maybe that sort of conversation might be 'OK' on 
air, but I wouldn't want to have it because personally I don't think the 
Amateur Bands are the place to have conversations that you have in the 
Pub.  But that's just my point of view.  HI.

Dave (G0DJA)


[digitalradio] Future of ALE and HF Link.

2010-01-24 Thread Andy obrien
I have decided that I will not be a part of HF Link,  in the formal
sense.  Many members of the Yahoo group HFlink have been helpful over
the years and Steve especially has  been of tremendous help to all.
However, I have concluded that the rigid control and moderation of
that group, have contributed to the failure of ALE to take hold as an
effective method of  amateur radio communication.  Despite years of
efforts, ALE remains perhaps the least used method of ham radio
contact management, and is regularly used by less than 75 hams
world-wide.  I know of no other amateur radio method that is dependent
solely on one group , and that one group has such prohibitive
practices that it essentially dictates terms. The copyright policy of
the HF Link group is directly contributing to a lack of openness that
is rarely seen in the amateur radio world.   PSK and digital modes
have many organizations and email lists, CW has lots of groups,
SSB-phone a zillion clubs, RACES/ARES accepts a wider choices of
systems, weak signals modes like JT65A have varying groups, but ALE on
hams bands remains centralized via HF link.   Winmor has tight control
on the software but is generally open to input and openly allows
dissent. ALE should be allowed to flourish in an open market where
hams take the idea and help it evolve and succeed.  Steve and Charles
Brain have made huge contributions but the warehousing of it via HF
link have reduced it to a little understood concept .  I will continue
to use ALE both PC-ALE and Multipsk . but no longer associate with HF
Link.  I have raised this matter before , and have received
constructive comments the suggest that the control is to prevent
ALE bashing  .  I think that there  is not a lot to bash about
ALE...it is a very effective system, However the protectionism
exhibited by HF Link has harmed ALE more than the occasional ALE
bashing would ever do.  So, the problems of  busy detect and
unattended operation notwithstanding, I will remain an advocate of ALE
and hope others will help it get rid of its shackles.  Heck , lets get
rid of ALE as an emcomm  concept , it isn't really (it could be ,
one day).  ALE might be more sellable as a DXing method or net
control software!


Andy K3UK


RE: [digitalradio] Future of ALE and HF Link.

2010-01-24 Thread Dave AA6YQ
Re the control is to prevent ALE bashing

 

Across a broad range of technical offerings, organizations that actively
solicit criticism and respond constructively tend to flourish, whereas
organizations focused on protecting their baby often fail to gain traction,
despite expending a comparable amount of energy. The open approach
motivates users to help - in reporting defects, suggesting enhancements, and
spreading the word - and naturally leads to a enthusiastic user community.
The defensive approach drives off everyone but the true believers; only
something incredibly valuable can survive this.

 

   73,

 

Dave, AA6YQ

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy obrien
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:24 PM
To: digitalradio; alera...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Future of ALE and HF Link.

 

  

I have decided that I will not be a part of HF Link, in the formal
sense. Many members of the Yahoo group HFlink have been helpful over
the years and Steve especially has been of tremendous help to all.
However, I have concluded that the rigid control and moderation of
that group, have contributed to the failure of ALE to take hold as an
effective method of amateur radio communication. Despite years of
efforts, ALE remains perhaps the least used method of ham radio
contact management, and is regularly used by less than 75 hams
world-wide. I know of no other amateur radio method that is dependent
solely on one group , and that one group has such prohibitive
practices that it essentially dictates terms. The copyright policy of
the HF Link group is directly contributing to a lack of openness that
is rarely seen in the amateur radio world. PSK and digital modes
have many organizations and email lists, CW has lots of groups,
SSB-phone a zillion clubs, RACES/ARES accepts a wider choices of
systems, weak signals modes like JT65A have varying groups, but ALE on
hams bands remains centralized via HF link. Winmor has tight control
on the software but is generally open to input and openly allows
dissent. ALE should be allowed to flourish in an open market where
hams take the idea and help it evolve and succeed. Steve and Charles
Brain have made huge contributions but the warehousing of it via HF
link have reduced it to a little understood concept . I will continue
to use ALE both PC-ALE and Multipsk . but no longer associate with HF
Link. I have raised this matter before , and have received
constructive comments the suggest that the control is to prevent
ALE bashing . I think that there is not a lot to bash about
ALE...it is a very effective system, However the protectionism
exhibited by HF Link has harmed ALE more than the occasional ALE
bashing would ever do. So, the problems of busy detect and
unattended operation notwithstanding, I will remain an advocate of ALE
and hope others will help it get rid of its shackles. Heck , lets get
rid of ALE as an emcomm  concept , it isn't really (it could be ,
one day). ALE might be more sellable as a DXing method or net
control software!

Andy K3UK



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[digitalradio] Super narrow filter: PSK31 with HB9DRV SDR-RADIO

2010-01-24 Thread Andy obrien
Finally!  When I bought my TS-2000 a couple of years ago, I was aware
of one criticism for the digital operator  super narrow filtering
in SSB was not as easy to achieve as in other rigs.It can be done via
a radio equivalent of standing on your head , using CW to receive and
USB to transmit.  The steps to achieve that are not easy to automate,
so I have found it difficult to cope with those monster nearby PSK
signals that swamp the waterfall,  and could be eased out if I had
better  filtering in USB. So, tonight, I decided to see how that would
be addressed with my new SDR-IQ receiver and Simon Brown's preview
release of SDR-Radio .  I was very happy to be easily able to dial in
narrow filters, til my heart's content.  All at the stroke of a mouse
slider, couldn't be simpler.  Simon's software is still very early in
development , so not yet seamlessly integrated with his DM780.  Take a
look at this screen shot if you are interested,
http://www.obriensweb.com/36hz.jpg

I highlighted items of interest in a red ellipse. I used Mixw to
decode the PSK31 because SDR-Radio does not do it itself.  Yes, I
know...  Mixw displays 20M, but I was actually on 80M.

 I have yet to try this when there  is a monster signal nearby  that
needs to be nulled out , but I think the results will be good.

Andy K3UK


Re: [digitalradio] Super narrow filter: PSK31 with HB9DRV SDR-RADIO

2010-01-24 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote:
 So, tonight, I decided to see how that would
 be addressed with my new SDR-IQ receiver and Simon Brown's preview
 release of SDR-Radio .  I was very happy to be easily able to dial in
 narrow filters, til my heart's content.

Have a go with Winrad or WinradHD as well Andy, you'll find that both 
those programs allow you to widen and narrow the bandwidth and adjust 
the filters. The use of click and hold whilst sliding the filter skirts 
is very useful.

Using VAC you can send the audio to DM780 or any other digital mode 
program that recognises the VAC drivers.



Dave (G0DJA)