[digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band
Ed: With 500 GB of memory you should have no trouble running any program likely to be produced in the next few years. MixW can get a pretty good range of resolution. In the case of resolution, looking at 20 m on MixW at a zoom factor of 0.5, the spread on the display is 14.070 through 14.080. Looking at 20 m on MixW with a zoom factor of four, you have just about as much resolution as you could ever want. The spread goes from 14, 070.1 through 14,071.5 . That is spread out through the entire width of the page. Dick,KC4COP
Re: [digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band
Hi Again Ed. I did play with the 3 VFO feature of Simon's software, see http://www.obriensweb.com/3vfo20.jpg http://www.obriensweb.com/3vfo.jpg (17M) It is nice to be able to 'see" the CW , digital, and phone portions, and click back and forth to actually hear when needed.Thanks for pointing this out. yes, Simon and Patrick have amazing skills. My next venture is to get more adept at figuring out the transmit side of things , since I am using "separates". I have managed to protect the front end of my SDR receiver, no overload when I transmit. I am manually tuning the transmitting rig to the received SDR signal, it would be nice to sync the two rigs without tapping in to the IF stage of the transceiver. I can do that with SpectraVue but like Simon's software and would like to sync SDR-Radio with the TS2000. I suspect there are ways to do this already and I just need to explore the possibilities. Having fun learning... Andy.
[digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band
Andy, Patrick is way ahead of all of us. I forgot to mention that when I first installed the E2180 dual core cpu/motherboard it only had 500GB of memory. The digital mode and SDR applications actually ran OK and the cpu usage was quite low but the memory shortage was very obvious when starting applications and changing the windows on the screen such as when browsing the web. The SDR-14 receiver is very interesting. I am curious what can actually be done when scanning a 30MHz spectrum. It seems like scanning a 30MHz spectrum fast enough to decode RSIDs would be beyond the capabilities of current PCs. The next step in software that I would like to see is opening up the digital mode panoramic decoding display to 5KHz or more. This would help to spread the signals out a bit on 20 meters and/or open it up for more digital mode QSOs. MixW actually does have dual receive capability in addition to the simultaneous multiple mode capability. It is unfortunate that it does not have a panoramic display or RSID decoding. I am amazed at what some of the programmers like Simon and Patrick have been able to do by themselves. It seems like these programs and and especially the capabilities that SDR opens up can't possibly be one-person projects. Ed WB6YTE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:08 PM, ed_hekman wrote: > > > > > > > > Interesting comments, Andy. > > > > My goal is also to be able to monitor all the digital portions of the band > > and to be able to spot all call signs in any mode across the band. CW > > Skimmer is a good model for that. In addition, it would nice to be able to > > select a few segments of the band (~5 KHz span in each segment) and to be > > able to select a few specific signals in each segment for continuous > > decoding in various modes. As far as I know MixW is the only package that > > can decode multiple modes simultaneously. PSDR and SDR-Radio allow the > > selection of multiple segments (2 for PSDR, 3 for SDR-Radio) but the > > integration with digital mode decoding is not built-in with the SDR > > software. > > > > > > Ed, thanks. You are way ahead of me on this stuff. I have not tried > "multiple segments" yet, that will be interesting to try. My maximum > is 192 Khz at the moment. I expect that I will move to something like > an SDR-14 in the future and have 30 Mhz capability at some point. I > am glad I did not plonk down a hard earned thousand bucks to find out > that the software isn't;really 'ready" yet, and that my PC's will > need a major upgrade. So, I am happy with the learning curve at the > moment and will be better prepared when ready to move up in a serious > way. > > PSK "skimmers" are essentially already within FLdigi, Multipsk, > Winwarbler, and DM780. Broadening PSK callsign mining to four of 5 > Khz segments should eventually be possible , and not very taxing. > RTTY skimming during a contest might require several 100 kHz segments, > that might be tougher than skimming the same bandwidth for CW signals. > I suppose the serious digital mode skimmer would want to continually > keep an eye on all PSK31 and RTTY signals just like the CW enthusiasts > want all CW segments. If there were eventually PSK31 and RTTY > skimmers, the remaining Olivia, Hell, MFSK16, and THOR signals would > be something most would happily manually watch/listen for. > > > Thanks for sharing your benchmarks. > > Andy K3UK >
Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.
Patrick / Dave... Thank you Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Hello Dave, Nice, I will send you the protocol sent by Andy, and, possibly, others in the future if I receive more. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Dave AA6YQ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. >>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick Lindecker Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:30 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Hello Tony, >Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it? The SDR feature in Multipsk is only doing a I/Q processing, shifting in base band, in USB or LSB, a selected band (inside the 48, 96 or 192 KHz SdR band). Now as I discovered, thanks to Andy, is that professional SdR are controlled through a defined protocol, something as a Cat system protocol. Perhaps, Dave (AA6YQ) will add, in the future, through Commander, the necessary commands to control the different SdR... >>>Commander has long been able to control PowerSDR. If you send me the protocols you need supported, Patrick, I will extend Commander to support them. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Performance of modes: weak signal and poor ionospheric conditions
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:00 PM, kb3fxi wrote: > > > MFSK16 always seems to come up near or at the top of the simulated tests > but I can't duplicate that in the real world. > > My experience is that Olivia 8/500 does as well if not better and gives > MUCH greater latitude in tuning while still providing 100% copy under > moderate to poor conditions. Olivia 16/500 is much slower but goes way into > the noise where I've had terrible results with MFSK16 under the same > conditions. And if 8/250 Olivia (slower yet) doesn't do it, I just turn off > the HF rig. > Hi Dave, Yes, but Olivia 8/500 is slow enough it is frustrating for me. I don't do a lot of 80M NVIS work. I haven't had much trouble tuning MFSK16 but I certainly hear a lot of people saying just that so you must be right. I am usually on 20 meters or 80 with verticals. I did find that Digital Master 780 is 2 to 3 db less sensitive than the better programs for MFSK16 in my hands. Wes, WZ7I
[digitalradio] Focus on Hamspots
While the "digitalradio" sked page will continue, I am switching the primary recommendation for digital mode "spotting" to Hamspots ( http://www.hamspots.net/). Laurie VK3AMA has provided many innovations to this service in 2009 and plans to add even more in 2010. The Digitalradio tab on the K3UK Sked Page will remain but will likely continue its current role of being more a "chat" room for people trying to test digital modes. For alerting as to who is "QRV" and via what mode, Hamspots is better suited, especially now that there is some integration with PSKreporter. While the average PSK31 enthusiasts will almost always find someone to have a QSO with, the original Digitalradio sked page was set-up to help those wanting QSOs on other digital modes, and to avoid the wrath of DX Cluster sysops who wanted only "real DX".. Over the years things have become diluted as people use a variety of web sites to announce their presence. It is my opinion that the digital mode enthusiast will be better served with a common website where all can go, and reliably catch news of who is active, and on which band. The Hamspots and PSkrepoter partnership seems to be the best site. For those married to all three, my link to them all on one page is still available via http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html Andy K3UK Owner.
[digitalradio] Re: Performance of modes: weak signal and poor ionospheric conditions
MFSK16 always seems to come up near or at the top of the simulated tests but I can't duplicate that in the real world. My experience is that Olivia 8/500 does as well if not better and gives MUCH greater latitude in tuning while still providing 100% copy under moderate to poor conditions. Olivia 16/500 is much slower but goes way into the noise where I've had terrible results with MFSK16 under the same conditions. And if 8/250 Olivia (slower yet) doesn't do it, I just turn off the HF rig. BTW, my experience is almost all on 80m with NVIS antennae. -Dave, KB3FXI --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Wes Cosand wrote: > > I have finished a series of simulations looking at the performance of > several modes that seemed appropriate for extended keyboard to > keyboard rag chew QSOs. I was looking at modes that offered a > throughput of about 40 wpm so they could keep up with a reasonable > typist with a bandwidth of no more than 500 hz. > > I used PathSim to measure accuracy of text transmission under white > noise and CCIR 520-2 "Poor" simulated propagation conditions. I > measured text accuracy over at least seven minutes of text for each > data point. > > The graph can be found at > http://mysite.verizon.net/wz7i/modeimages/Digital%20Modes%20Poor%20Condx.png > The methodology, including software packaged used, is outlined at > http://mysite.verizon.net/wz7i/digitalmodes.html > > Summarizing, I arrived at the following SNR (db) for a character error > rate of 5%: > > AWGN "Poor" > DonimnoEX8 -15.3 -3.1 > MFSK16 -14.7 -8.5 > PSK31 -13.2 -0.8 > Contestia500/16 -14.0 -9.2 > RTTY -9.1 +3.7 > > I probably need to look at Olivia 500/4 > > These data confirm my prejudice about the excellent performance of > MFSK16. With the extended low tones implemented in several packages, > the mode is not difficult to tune. > > A couple things surprised me. I would have expected DominoEX to do > better under poor propagation. Another surprise is the difference in > performance between different software implementations of a given > mode. A software program may have excellent decoding performance with > one mode and then have performance with another that is not > competitive. The above numerical data would vary a good deal if > different decoding software were used. So if you find operating with > a given mode frustrating, don't discard it without trying another > program. > > I hope that with RSID some of these excellent modes will find greater use. > > The web site may well have errors so if you find something surprising, > please let me know so I can check things. I don't want to mislead > anyone. > > Wes, WZ7I > www.wz7i.com >
Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.
Hello Dave, Nice, I will send you the protocol sent by Andy, and, possibly, others in the future if I receive more. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Dave AA6YQ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. >>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick Lindecker Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:30 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Hello Tony, >Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it? The SDR feature in Multipsk is only doing a I/Q processing, shifting in base band, in USB or LSB, a selected band (inside the 48, 96 or 192 KHz SdR band). Now as I discovered, thanks to Andy, is that professional SdR are controlled through a defined protocol, something as a Cat system protocol. Perhaps, Dave (AA6YQ) will add, in the future, through Commander, the necessary commands to control the different SdR... >>>Commander has long been able to control PowerSDR. If you send me the protocols you need supported, Patrick, I will extend Commander to support them. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
RE: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick Lindecker Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:30 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Hello Tony, >Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it? The SDR feature in Multipsk is only doing a I/Q processing, shifting in base band, in USB or LSB, a selected band (inside the 48, 96 or 192 KHz SdR band). Now as I discovered, thanks to Andy, is that professional SdR are controlled through a defined protocol, something as a Cat system protocol. Perhaps, Dave (AA6YQ) will add, in the future, through Commander, the necessary commands to control the different SdR... >>>Commander has long been able to control PowerSDR. If you send me the protocols you need supported, Patrick, I will extend Commander to support them. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
[digitalradio] Performance of modes: weak signal and poor ionospheric conditions
I have finished a series of simulations looking at the performance of several modes that seemed appropriate for extended keyboard to keyboard rag chew QSOs. I was looking at modes that offered a throughput of about 40 wpm so they could keep up with a reasonable typist with a bandwidth of no more than 500 hz. I used PathSim to measure accuracy of text transmission under white noise and CCIR 520-2 "Poor" simulated propagation conditions. I measured text accuracy over at least seven minutes of text for each data point. The graph can be found at http://mysite.verizon.net/wz7i/modeimages/Digital%20Modes%20Poor%20Condx.png The methodology, including software packaged used, is outlined at http://mysite.verizon.net/wz7i/digitalmodes.html Summarizing, I arrived at the following SNR (db) for a character error rate of 5%: AWGN "Poor" DonimnoEX8 -15.3 -3.1 MFSK16 -14.7 -8.5 PSK31 -13.2 -0.8 Contestia500/16 -14.0 -9.2 RTTY -9.1 +3.7 I probably need to look at Olivia 500/4 These data confirm my prejudice about the excellent performance of MFSK16. With the extended low tones implemented in several packages, the mode is not difficult to tune. A couple things surprised me. I would have expected DominoEX to do better under poor propagation. Another surprise is the difference in performance between different software implementations of a given mode. A software program may have excellent decoding performance with one mode and then have performance with another that is not competitive. The above numerical data would vary a good deal if different decoding software were used. So if you find operating with a given mode frustrating, don't discard it without trying another program. I hope that with RSID some of these excellent modes will find greater use. The web site may well have errors so if you find something surprising, please let me know so I can check things. I don't want to mislead anyone. Wes, WZ7I www.wz7i.com
[digitalradio] Re: Is there a ham in SW Minneapolis/Bloomington who can help me to go digital?
See: http://mysite.verizon.net/wz7i/RTTY.html for RTTY software comparisson
[digitalradio] New Sunspot Group #11043
Posted Sunday January 31, 2010 at 1500 UTC at http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o4.htm On Saturday the 30th a new solar cycle 24 sunspot group emerged in NE quadrant of the Sun near N27E35 and was numbered 11043 by NOAA/SWPC. It contains a beta magnetic signature capable of producing B class and isolated C class solar flares. On Saturday the 30th the solar flux index values were 77.0 75.0 74.2 and the sunspot number 25. We have had visible sunspots for 10 days in a row, 23 of the last 24 days and 34 of the last 36 days. I think that we can safely say that solar cycle 24 is well underway and steadily picking up it's pace. Sunspot group #11041 is now a spotless plage near S27W58 and will soon cross the SW limb of the Sun. 73 & GUD DX, Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O Lakeland, FL, USA n...@arrl.net LF/MF/HF/VHF/UHF Frequency Radiowave Propagation Email Reflector: http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/spaceweather NZ4O Daily Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Data Archive: http://www.solarcycle24.org NZ4O Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Data In Graphic & Image Format: http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o2.htm NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast & Archive: http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o3.htm NZ4O Solar Cycle 24 Forecast Discussion & Archive: http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o4.htm NZ4O 160 Meter Radio Propagation Theory Notes: http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o5.htm NZ4O Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Raw Forecast Data Links: http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o6.htm Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.
Hello Tony, >Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having and >SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it? The SDR feature in Multipsk is only doing a I/Q processing, shifting in base band, in USB or LSB, a selected band (inside the 48, 96 or 192 KHz SdR band). Now as I discovered, thanks to Andy, is that professional SdR are controlled through a defined protocol, something as a Cat system protocol. Perhaps, Dave (AA6YQ) will add, in the future, through Commander, the necessary commands to control the different SdR... In the next version, I will add possibility to send a COM and EXEC command at initialization/RX/TX/finalization. But for a complex protocol when you are supposed to send/listen/send, it will not be sufficient. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Andy, Thanks for posting your CPU test results with Multipsk. Patrick mentioned that he doesn't think RAM is important in this case and adding more than the minimum memory requirement wouldn't change anything; I guess that leaves the processor. It just seems odd that there would be a large disparity in CPU usage since both processors run similar clock speeds (yours is actually faster). My Dell has a Pentium dual core E2200 and I'm wondering if the difference is due to the dual vs. single core? >The CPU demand is based on maximizing Multipsk's tasks (SDR- >Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular waterfall at 4 Khz) Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it? Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active. Interesting data , Tony. I am was surprised that our similar computers have so dissimilar results. So , I checked a few things on different PCs here at my location. Here are my results, The CPU demand is based on maximizing Multipsk's tasks (SDR-Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular waterfall at 4 Khz) . Casual readers of this thread should note that Multipsk under most common scenarios for ham radio, uses much less CPU than below. Shack Computer (Dell Opitiplex GX260 , 2.3 Ghz CPU single core , 1 gig RAM. Windows XP. Multipsk = 95-100+ % (not usable) Home PC (Dell Optiplex GX270 , 2.7 CPU single core , 512 RAM, WIndows XP. Multipsk = 65% , worked well.) Low end Acer Latop , 3 gig RAM, Windows 7. . Multipsk = 75%, worked fine. Ironic that the one PC I want to get Multipsk to work on is the one PC that it does poorly on ! The good news is that when maximizing Multipsk on a basic PC , with not a lot of other things multi-tasking, Multipsk will work. I am especially pleased to see it work well on the Windows 7 laptop which only cost $247.00 So while the desktop computers do not have identical parameters (different system files, ect) , I am intrigued about the 30-35% less CPU demand on the PC with only 512 RAM but .4 Ghz more processing speed . Does .4 ghz more speed usually make that much difference.. Your outcomes , Tony, also intrige me about what difference I might discover if I add another gig of RAM to my 2.3 CPU ham PC. Andy K3UK On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Tony wrote: [Attachment(s) from Tony included below] Andy, I configured Multipsk as you described and the CPU usage seems to average about 5 percent. Panoramic mode is about the same. I've included a few screen shots so you could see the results. Mixw seems to tax the CPU the same way as Multipsk does, but Fldigi needs a bit more to run - CPU usage jumped to 10%. I guess it's the difference in RAM. Would like to hear how the Vista laptop works out. Please let use know. Tony -K2MO PS: We're about the same here Andy, thanks for asking. Still waiting for research to catch up with type-I. Hope all is well with you and yours my friend. - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band Tony, my shack PC sounds like yours. A Dell P4, 2.3 CPU , but only 1 gig of RAM. Perhaps we can compare current system resource utilization for regular Multipsk ? Regular Multipsk in PSK31 mode with a 4,3 Khz waterfall uses 25 % of CPU. With RS ID on , about the same 25-26% With Panoramic decode.. CPU increases to around 30%. Then Multipsk with Direct I/Q mode invoked , CPU increases to 60% Then RS ID in SDR /IQ direct invoked, Multipsk uses 90% of my CPU. The above is JUST Multipsk related, obvious
Re: [digitalradio] Future of ALE and HF Link.
Who is "she"? 73, Frank On 2010-01-25, "John Becker, WØJAB" wrote: > At 07:18 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote: > > >>Re the control is to prevent ALE bashing" > > That control is a Gestapo, Marxist type. She will flat out tell you that she > may > not be "always" right, but never "wrong" No one and I do mean no one can use > any other > mode on or near the frequency they use without getting a email letting you > know that "that is their frequency." > > This issue is far from being over, done, kaput. > > John, W0JAB > In the cold heartland > > -- http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - attributed to Benjamin Franklin (January 17, 1706 – April 17, 1790), one of the founding fathers of the United States of America, printer, scientist, inventor, civic activist, and diplomat Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Is there a ham in SW Minneapolis/Bloomington who can help me to go digital?
Hopefully you will here from a local ham. If you do not, I may be able to help, I have some experience in setting up a digikeyey with the Icom 7000 and Icom 746 Pro, I helped a ham in my area get all set for digimodes . I would recommend that you start with the DX Lab suite of applications. I recommend this not only because they are good, but also because the author Dave AA6YQ is very responsive to any needs, and Joe W4TV from Microham USA also works effectively with Dave on such matters. . DX Lab includes Winwabler, this will give you RTTY and PSK only, but that is about 90% of the digital mode activity. If you eventually want to add other more exotic modes, adding Multipsk would be logical because it seamlessly interfaces with the DX Lab applications. The game plan in such matters is to first get the Digikeyer device router installed and talking to the program within DX Lab called Commander. Commander will need to achieve two tasks, read the frequncy from your Icom and toggle your Icom between transmit and receive when desired. If that is achieved, we are pretty much done. Then , when Commander is configured correctly we set-up Winwarbler. Winwarblerd decodes RTTY and PSK. and seamlessly interfaces with Commander. The set-up for someone who knows what they are doing is less than 10 minutes. Macros are fairly simple but take a little time to customize , same with things like color schemes, etc. The souncard issues are taking care of by the Digikeyer because the sounccard is part of the Digikeyer. The set-up key factor is to point to the correct audio "codec" DX Lab Suite also includes DX Keeper, great logging software. Windows Vista may be the challenge, I have no experience with that, a tiny bit of experience with Windows 7. Andy K3UK On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 11:37 PM, w0xs_mpls wrote: > > > Having been inactive on the ham bands for a very long time I would like > some help getting active on ditigal modes. RTTY was my favorite but I last > worked stations on RTTY in the mid-1970's with a HAL TU and Model 28. > > I'll happily pay for help from someone who has the expertise to help me > with my software and equipment. > > Icom IC-756PROII > microHAM Digi Keyer > 1 1/2 year old HP desktop with Vista but I have Windows 7 to install > Logic8 logging software > TRX Manager > MixW version 2.19 > HRD software suite > > The help I need is to get my microHAM Digi Keyer working between my > computer and PROII and to choose and set-up software for operating digital > modes and for logging. > > I've tried on my own to get Logic8 and TRX manager to work with no luck. I > had MixW working on my previous computer but not having much luck with this > one. > > Advice I need would include which software (that I have or should get) is > best for working digital modes, especially RTTY, and then help setting it up > with macros. > > My e-mail is w...@comcast.net if any local hams are > interested in helping me out. > > Thanks!! > > >