Re: [digitalradio] Scanning PSKmail WARC freqs
I had to alter my scan table to accomodate lower bands, I think you only have pi4tue up there now. Perhaps 20 meters, I'm on 14095 nw, could work? 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio ; warc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 8:48:19 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Scanning PSKmail WARC freqs Rein et al. I scanned 10147 and 18105 today for six hours, alternating every 90 seconds with a 3 Khz range. I only picked up three PSk250 RS IDs on 30M and NONE on 17M. Each RS ID on 30M was not decoded well enough to produce a callsign. Since Muktipsk looks for a "de ** " string, perhaps the stations were sending PSKMAIL IDs without a "de" ? For the last hour , I listening for 30 minutes on each frequency, listened with my own ears. I heard no PSK250 on 18105 . On 30M I heard two RS IDs and several PSK250 signals without RS ID. perhaps not all PSK mail servers are using RS ID yet ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail
Why not ask where the server sysops hang out? I mean the pskmail mailing list. Have a look here: http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail Here in europe we have plenty of servers but at the moment I see only two active servers in north america: http://hermes.esrac.ele.tue.nl/maps/pskmailers.php Hang in there, it works great when you actually have a path to a server 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Alan To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:26:08 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Hi all, I've tried to connect to any server and I've yet to connect. Maybe being here in western montana running a 160 loop has something to do with it. But, I do lots of psk qso's and a few other digi modes. I think I have everything setup but never can connect...It looks like a good thing but is getting frustrated trying to use pskmail...just venting..73, Alan
Re: [digitalradio] Re: GTOR- has anyone tried this?
Its here: http://db0lj.prgm.org/boxfiles/software/Gtor.zip Even works on linux (ubuntu 9.10) using wine. Per, sm0rwo From: wd4kpd To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, February 23, 2010 5:40:37 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: GTOR- has anyone tried this? A SOFTWARE G-TOR FOR SOUNDCARD... .? WHERE MIGHT IT BE FOUND. DAIVD/WD4KPD
Re: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms
Seems you were right about that, someone had already measured: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~zajio1am/texts2/eee901.html Its the Eee 901 being measured there and thats the one I am using. Power consumption seems very low (too low even?). He claims the consumption is in the range of 5.6 to 8.5 Watts. Should be excellent in an emergency then. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Simon HB9DRV To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 9:29:08 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms I could measure it - but I'm sure it's < 20 watts. Simon Brown http://sdr-radio. com From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Per Indeed, that was one of the reasons I listed when getting an eee. The PSU is 12 volts and 3 amps (36 watts), dont know how much less than that it actually uses.
Re: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms
Indeed, that was one of the reasons I listed when getting an eee. The PSU is 12 volts and 3 amps (36 watts), dont know how much less than that it actually uses. /Per From: Simon HB9DRV To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:18:20 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms A very nice feature of the ASUS EEE PC is that it runs off 12 volts. So solar calls + 12v 7AH battery and it'll run all day. Simon Brown http://sdr-radio. com > -Original Message- > From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > [mailto:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of sholtofish > > When I use the FT-817 from solar/gel cell charging the notebook as well > proves too much and drains the cell too quickly hence the reason for > the WP-2. >
Re: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms
Interesting subject, here is my portable setup: http://twitpic.com/y37fm Its an eee 901 pc, an FT-817ND and a soundcard interface. I have a much smaller interface but I dont have a picture showing that. With this setup I can work: - PSKmail using jpskmail (PSK500 robust really flies) and - fldigi, lots of modes there - xastir for packet radio through - soundmodem, uses the soundcard and creates a virtual kiss tnc (or ax25 ip) Of course that kiss interface can be used for other things besides aprs (fbb perhaps). With the smaller interface its basically a netbook and an FT-817ND (or 897 if I have power enough). A TNC can be nice but its also nice not to have to bring it, power supply, cables etc.. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: aa777888athotmaildotcom To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:01:19 PM Subject: [digitalradio] portable HF digital in the radio Re: Haiti a test for emcomms This sounds fairly complex. Why not just use a netbook? Volume-wise it's about the same if not better after all the cables and "terminals" are considered and if you have enough power to run digital (high duty cycle) on the radio you have enough for the netbook. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "sholtofish" wrote: > > > There is the NUE-PSK device which now supports RTTY in addition to PSK31. You > still need a keyboard however. > > In my opinion a better device is the Kantronics KAM XL or SCS PTC II. > > The Kantronics is much cheaper than the SCS and offers some features even the > Pactor-II/III modems don't. > > A used KAM XL is a good investment because it is flash upgradable via a free > download on Kantronics website - no messing with expensive ROMs. > > It offers (via a terminal) PSK-31, RTTY, ASCII, Pactor-1, AMTOR & G-TOR in > addition to it being a dual port Packet switch (up to 9K6). > > It's perfectly possible to run a "TheNet" compatible node at the same time as > a multiuser BBS with 480KB of non volatile storage. It is basically a > BBS/Node in a box that only consumes about 120mA at 12v. > > You can also link the ports to provide VHF<>HF switching. It also has a RTC > chip so you don't have to remember to set the date every time you boot up > which is important for message handling. > > If you couple this with a cheap serial terminal - perhaps the Tandy WP-2 > "wordprocessor" which provides an 80 column lcd display and can happily run > on a couple of AA cells for days (available on eBay for peanuts) then you > have a real low power system which is very usable. > > You could run a traffic BBS on VHF and a Pactor-1 (or better yet G-Tor) link > on HF. > > The PSK31 takes a little getting used to if you normally use a waterfall but > it is a very sensitive implementation and works very well. > > I believe the SCS modems have a multiuser BBS too and of course Pactor-II and > Pactor-III if you can afford it but that is the real catch, these things run > around $1000 or more even second hand. > > You can often find a KAM XL for around $250-$350 on eBay. A radio cable from > Buxcomm is about $25. > > 73 > > Sholto > K7TMG >
Re: [digitalradio] Linux Here I come!
You will want to install it, what ever you add will otherwise be lost as soon as you reboot. In order to get the ham radio software you have to enable repositories to get that stuff from. Universe and multiverse should be enabled, medibuntu is extra. Look under administration and start "software sources" (not sure abt that name as I use the swedish translation). Enable those repositories and have it refresh the lists. After that the ham radio section will be stuffed. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Marty W8AKS To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 10:35:07 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Linux Here I come! Okay, I've got 9.1 up and running off the Cd. Into the Synaptic Package Manager; but I can't find any of the ham programs (wsjt, fldigi, etc). Under the "ALL", scroll all the way down with no success. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to install 9.1 to the hd in order to retrieve the packages? Thanks and 73 Marty W8AKS - Original Message - >From: James > French >To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com >Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 18:29 > PM >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Linux Here I > come! > > >I would recommend Ubuntu 9.04 to start with. > >It's what most of us > here locally are using. Ubuntu is a >variatnt of Debian which is the basis > for a couple of other >'flavors' of Linux. > >Ubuntu and Debian come > with WSJT, fldigi, and gMSFK as >supported software installs. You'll also > have other Amatuer >radio related software to pick and choose from in the > Synaptic >package manager ranging from Sat tracking to NEC > antenna >modeling software. All open source software...: ) You will > even >be able to upload to the ARRL Logbook Of The World > even. > >Another benefit is that if you want to run PSKmail, you will be > able >to. I have set it up, but not done much with it other than to > know >that it works. > >I would recommend that you find a local Linux > Users Group (LUG) >in your area to attend as that usually is the BEST source > of information >on any problems that you may encounter. Here's a link to a > few in that >might be close to you for help: >http://www.linux. org/groups/ usa/westvirginia .html >Just > do a search for Linux User Groups in your favorite search engine to >find > others. > >Hope this helps some. > >James W8ISS > >
Re: [digitalradio] Linux Here I come!
I'm using ubuntu 9.10 here now and its great. You can install fldigi through synaptic, fldigi 3.11.4 is on the mirrors. I recommend that you learn about mirrors and synaptic, on ubuntu. The ham radio section is packed. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Tim N9PUZ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 7:50:44 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Linux Here I come! James French wrote: > I would recommend Ubuntu 9.04 to start with. I have not downloaded it yet but I believe Ubuntu 9.10 was released this past week. Tim, N9PUZ
Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode
Hi Russel, Its not on 3.13AU, there is a patched version with PSK500 but it wasnt there on AU from the start. I guess AZ is the latest now and its on there (its what I run here). 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Russell Blair To: Digital Radio Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:22:22 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode Andy, Im running fldigi 3.13AU but I cant find PSK500 on the list where can I find it, for PSKmail... On my puppy mail server is working, I just completed testing makeing sure it can pass emails.. Now on to PSK500 mode ? Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com
Re: [digitalradio] Throught of a Digital Propagation Tool
Sounds like propnet: http://www.propnet.org/ Check out realtime plots there. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: "Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle" To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 10:05:10 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Throught of a Digital Propagation Tool Hi All, Just having a brain spark (not so many now-a-days) With all the new digital modes being devopled upto this date and the way some work; I was wondering if there could be some of propagation tool here? Thought would be some form of automation on spot frequecies on the different bands that cold record/monitor the propergation between continents. Of course this would require stations to dedicate their radio to this, but it could only be when the radio was not in operator use. I can remember quite a few years ago a ham friend who was a Amtor/Packet Sysop (using a PK-232) and he mentioned the band switching would allow him to get a good propagation view. But it was limited as it was setup for specific remote stations, he was not transferring to Asia or Europe, his hop was Austrailia and a couple of West Coast stations. It would require the software to control the scanning and switching of bands on the radio. Most radios that have scan functions, once switched to TX will not satrt scanning again. Thought would be to have the software scan each band at (say) 3 min intervals within a 30 min period, this would allow for slight differences in computer clocks. And then TX and monitor for 5 mins, recording any propergation traffic. Now I might be well off the mark here, just throwing something into the air for thoughts. Then the cycle woud start again. The data could then be uploaded to a central (online) monitoring database. The software could be configured to ignor certain calls for a band as this would swamp the reports. (I don't want to know ZL's (or even VK's) are being heard on 80 or 40mtrs, but I would like to know and report if Europe, Asia or the Americas are. Here is how I would see it mm - Band 00 - 160Mtrs 03 - 80Mtrs 06 - 40Mtrs 09 - 30Mtrs 12 - 20Mtrs 15 - 17Mtrs 18 - 15Mtrs 21 - 13Mtrs 24 - 10Mtrs 27 - 6Mtrs (Most new radios have this now) And then back to the top of the 30 min cycle again. I don't know what mode would be the best but I was thinking digital PSK31, but there could be a better digital mode. Anyway just some thoughts I had floating around and thought I would put it out there. I might be totally off the mark, but hey got to put things out there to think about. Thanks for Listening. Kevin, ZL1KFM.
Re: [digitalradio] Unsuccessful Windows PSKMail Download
Hi, I know a server has been acting up at the university in Eindhoven, I think its being reinstalled right now. You are welcome to try my server at home, I have abt 15 Mbps up only at the moment but it does work. You'll probably want the exe file then, anyway try here: http://www.crusefalk.se/jpskmailinstall/ 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: fredlozo To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, October 20, 2009 5:02:10 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Unsuccessful Windows PSKMail Download I would like to try PSKMail but have not been successful in downloading a Windows OS zip file. One message says corrupt or missing files; another says no files in folder. The U.S. download site said 23 MBs were downloaded. The EU site said 109MBs were downloaded. Any suggestions?
Re: [digitalradio] Mode that sounds like water drops on 40?
JT6M / WSJT ? 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: kg4kri To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 12:43:42 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Mode that sounds like water drops on 40? Hello all, I am just getting back into digital radio after an eight year absence, and there are a lot of new modes on the air. One that I cannot figure out sounds like nothing so much as water dripping! I usually hear it on 40 late at night or very early in the morning. Can anyone help me figure out what it is? Sincerely, Daniel, KG4KRI --... ...--
Re: [digitalradio] Inexpensive digital mode interfaces with LINUX ?
Actually I think its easier to reverse the question and try to find what does not work with linux. I suppose someone will reply with some horror story now but I have yet to find a problem. I use this one:http://www.cgantenna.be/sb2000.html My pskmail server is using this: http://ham.srsab.se/pdf/MISC/digi-testbericht.pdf The first does have USB and provides CAT/CI-V (or whatever they choose to call it). 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 1:51:16 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Inexpensive digital mode interfaces with LINUX ? Does anyone know if there are inexpensive digital mdoe interfaces that work under Linux, have a usb conenctor, and provide CAT rig control ? I have a good inertface but it supports Windows only. For some upcoming projects I would like to have one that works under Linux. I was looking at the Donner digital interfaces but it is not clear if they require software that works with Windows or they are multi-platform Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] jPSKMail client ver 0.3.8 ready
Hi all, The jPSKMail client version 0.3.8 is ready for download! Where can I download? At the moment its available here: http://www.crusefalk.se/jpskmailinstall/ and should soon be available from a better mirror here: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/Download There are three versions to choose from: One for linux: jpskmail-0.3.8-Linux-x86-Install One for windows: jpskmail-0.3.8-Setup.exe One for Macs, BSD, Solaris etc: jpskmail-0.3.8.zip The windows installer does its work by double clicking it on the desktop. You will have to make the sure the linux installer is executable, either right click on it and set that under properties or use the command line ('sudo chmod +x '). Then double click on it. The zip is intended for all other platforms (that can run java and where fldigi is available), just unzip it and launch the javapskmail.jar. Prerequisites: jPSKMail needs Fldigi3.10 (or better), you will have to install that. Try to use the binary from the fldigi website first, it will work in most cases. To run the java client you must have the java runtime environment installed (1.5 or better). What has changed? Just to name a few changes and features: - Its now possible to handle compressed email, this increases speed and makes that sensitive email slightly less obvious... - Twitter support now uses "pskmail", subscribe to that to get all the tweets - More modes supported, a whole lot of them - Connected session improvement, significant improvements including handling of timing for faster & slower modes (vk2eta has provided much input there). - Heard servers fill the list of known servers, now also when a ping is answered. - Some minor GUI adjustments including keyboard shortcut for user registration - bugfixes... Thanks to all the contributors, testers, users! 73 de Per, sm0rwo
Re: [digitalradio] Twitter in jPSKMAIL?
Yes. It used to be connected to your twitter account through the messagedance service. You could send updates and get your incoming tweets. But, you had to have a messagedance account enabled. In the new version we will instead just curl the updates and bypass the need for a messagedance account. Tweets will now go to the pskmail group and start with your callsign, that is using 0.3.8 which we should release soon. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: obrienaj To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 3, 2009 7:25:00 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Twitter in jPSKMAIL? Does anyone know how Twitter is supposed to work in jPSKMAIL? Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] A bugfix for pskmail client version 0.3.7
Hi, If jpskmail is installed in a path with spaces, such as "C:\Program Files\jpskmail" on windows, then the menu shortcut refuses to run. Its a very simple problem to fix, the jar path just has to be quoted. I have new installers on the page here that takes care of it: http://www.crusefalk.se/jpskmailinstall/ Those on hermes, the normal mirror, will be updated too. 73 de Per, sm0rwo
Re: [digitalradio] new jpskmail, pskmail client version 0.3.7
Hi Frédéric, I have indeed looked into an offline map source based upon openstreetmap. The key issue there is how detailed it should be, zoom steps, versus required size. It very quickly grows into megabytes, gigabytes... One way to do it is to provide a basic map for offline use and make it simple to create your very own detailed off line map. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Frédéric bouchet To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:23:36 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] new jpskmail, pskmail client version 0.3.7 Hello, and thank you for all, I try all these things in the day, if I come from my holiday place to connect. On data OpenStreetMap is awonderful idea, the more I do not see why could not have used these data in a non-internet connected, I was here for business computing and associative. (shape format) Become a contributor on OpenStreetMap is a breeze, I do this for the map of my town ... Bon courrage all. Fred F4EED / P southern france 2009/8/23 Per > >Hi all, > >Its taken quite a while but now its time for a new shiny release :-) >We've done a whole lot of things since 0.3.6 and the changelist is long. > >A few highlights from the list: >- Translations, german user interface(more translators wanted). >- Server autolink, checkbox controlled >- aprs messaging fixes >- user interface cleanup >- Better error messages, cleaned up some of the more common >- New modem control tab in preferences. Now possible to have fldigi >running on a remote machine. >- Client now works even without rxtx installed (but a gps will need it) > >There is a map tab in there and that is unfinished but gives an idea of >things to come in 0.3.8. The map tab loads from openstreetmap and you >can pan and zoom to check out openstreetmap.The plan is to use the map to >display received aprs data, grib weather and... well, more suggestions? >>There will be an offline map source included as well (provided there is an ok >>license). > >Also, there are installers for windows and linux that install what you >need and create menu shortcuts. > >Installation for windows: >>Just download jpskmail-0.3. 7-Setup.exe and doubleclick on it. > >Installation for linux: >>1. Download jpskmail-0.3. 7-Linux-x86- Install >>2. Make that file executable, either right click on it and select >properties and check the box that says "allow execution" (or similar) > >or enter "chmod +x jpskmail-0.3. 7-Linux-x86- Install" in a terminal. >>3. double click on it and run through the wizard. > >Installation for others (Macs, BSD etc): >>There will be a zip archive available, just unzip that and launch the jar.. > >You can get it all here: >http://hermes. esrac.ele. tue.nl/pskmail/ > >Enjoy and 73, > >Per - SM0RWO > > > -- - - - - -- Frédéric BOUCHET http://f4eed. free.fr http://www.gesadra. fr http://www.f5kry. org http://www.adrasec42.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- Ce message et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et établis a l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute utilisation ou diffusion non autorisée est interdite. Tout message électronique est susceptible d'altération. Je décline toute responsabilité au titre de ce message s'il a été altéré, déformé ou falsifié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire final de ce message, merci de le détruire immédiatement et de m'en avertir . - - - - - - - - - - - - - ---
[digitalradio] new jpskmail, pskmail client version 0.3.7
Hi all, Its taken quite a while but now its time for a new shiny release :-) We've done a whole lot of things since 0.3.6 and the changelist is long. A few highlights from the list: - Translations, german user interface(more translators wanted). - Server autolink, checkbox controlled - aprs messaging fixes - user interface cleanup - Better error messages, cleaned up some of the more common - New modem control tab in preferences. Now possible to have fldigi running on a remote machine. - Client now works even without rxtx installed (but a gps will need it) There is a map tab in there and that is unfinished but gives an idea of things to come in 0.3.8. The map tab loads from openstreetmap and you can pan and zoom to check out openstreetmap.The plan is to use the map to display received aprs data, grib weather and... well, more suggestions? There will be an offline map source included as well (provided there is an ok license). Also, there are installers for windows and linux that install what you need and create menu shortcuts. Installation for windows: Just download jpskmail-0.3.7-Setup.exe and doubleclick on it. Installation for linux: 1. Download jpskmail-0.3.7-Linux-x86-Install 2. Make that file executable, either right click on it and select properties and check the box that says "allow execution" (or similar) or enter "chmod +x jpskmail-0.3.7-Linux-x86-Install" in a terminal. 3. double click on it and run through the wizard. Installation for others (Macs, BSD etc): There will be a zip archive available, just unzip that and launch the jar.. You can get it all here: http://hermes.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pskmail/ Enjoy and 73, Per - SM0RWO
Re: [digitalradio] Soliciting suggestions
I suggest you have a look at pskmail. The wiki is at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: John Taylor To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:45:18 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Soliciting suggestions We are seeking to establish a standard for a digital "network" style system to handle emergency communications. We have established certain standards we are looking to follow. The mode/protocol/ package etc. should be based on weak signal HF capability. The mode/protocol/ package should be able to handle transferring of data in more than just ascii text format (ie: transfer files such as spreadsheets, etc.) The system must NOT require proprietary hardware such as pactor II/III modems. In other words, standard modems and/or sound card based. Before the flames start, there are already some out there that are being tested that actually meet these requirements, but are still in testing stages. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated John KE5HAM __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [digitalradio] Has anyone tried the ASuS EEE pc 901?
Yes, I have the eee 901 with 20 GB SSD. It came with xandros but I switched to easy peasy (ubuntu). I use it when travelling so I have pskmail with fldigi, xastir and all kinds of stuff... Also, I use it for navigation so I have Seaclear with bsb charts for the baltic sea. Also use hsdpa 3g card for wireless access. It works great, I could not be more happy. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: jeffnjr484 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 5:24:01 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Has anyone tried the ASuS EEE pc 901? Hello, Has anyone used the ASUS laptop for psk31 or any digital modes im looking at it for some portable ops http://www.amazon. com/gp/product/ B001BYD178/ ref=noref? ie=UTF8&s= pc It looks like a neat computer and the price is outstanding just wanted to know if anyone has tried it jeff kd4qit
Re: [digitalradio] Trying to test PSKmail ?
Hi Russel, Here is the list of servers with frequencies, scan tables etc: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers Here is a map showing where the current servers and clients are: http://hermes.esrac.ele.tue.nl/maps/pskmailers.php The frequencies are listed as center frequencies, thats dial frequency +/- tone offset in fldigi (depending on used sideband). One way is to set the dial to 10.147, usb and 1000 Hz tone in fldigi (10147+1=10148). So pse make sure you are looking for the servers in the right place. Also, a narrow filter helps. 73, Per, SM0RWO From: Russell Blair To: Digital Radio Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:54:45 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Trying to test PSKmail ? Where do I find a server to up dtat with my pop info. I am on 10.148 Khz and PSK 250 bit I cant decode any of the station Tx info. any help thanks Russell Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its called the PRESENT! " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Psk Mail Help someone!!
I'm sure if they open source HRD then interest for it would pick up. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Alan Wilson To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 4:05:50 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Psk Mail Help someone!! Thanks for the help...maybe we can get some hams here in the US interested. Not much here now. If it could be added to HRD I'm sure interest would pick up. 73, Alan > > > > > > _ _ __ >
Re: [digitalradio] Psk Mail Help someone!!
Hi Alan, Please join the pskmail mailing list, much better signal/noise ratio there ;-). Its at http://www.freelists.org/list/pskmail I cannot be certain what your problem is but please make sure you are using 10.148 as center frequency, that could mean 10.147 and usb on the dial and 1000 Hz cursor/offset in fldigi. That way the psk will land on 10.148 and most servers use sharp filters so frequency setting is very important. Most servers use PSK250 now but have a look at the wiki where servers list how they are working: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Alan Wilson To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:39:44 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Psk Mail Help someone!! Hi, and tnx fer reading this. I got linux puppy live cd up and going with PSKMail. I have Fldigi configured, now how do I do pskmail? I've been listening 10.148 and heard some sigs, couldn't decode them. Could someone please take me by the hand and help me get this going. I believe the concept is good and we need a few us hams to try it...73, Alan (Victor, MT USA DN26wj)
Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....
Hi, I know, I've not always kept my mouth shut either but it never leads to any good in the end. As we are hams we should have an antenna flame war instead ;-) (I like verticals ;-)) 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: José A. Amador To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:56:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread.... Per, I use BOTH. I just meant a joke, because "the dark side of the force is always lurking" I did not mean to hurt anyone, and I do operate on the air as well, perhaps not as much as I would like. 73, Jose CO2JA Per escribió: > These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad > mouthing all the other systems. > I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs > suck, if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the > air instead. > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energética sustentable www.ciercuba. com
[digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....
These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad mouthing all the other systems. I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs suck, if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the air instead. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: José A. Amador To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:18:22 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server? Once upon a time, in a very distant galaxy, there was an ace pilot named Anakin Skywalker... > > Linux has not been very successful here in the U.S. with most ham > > computer users. > > But it just has not been very practical at this point because like > > so many things in life, the trade-offs are too great:( > > Because too many refuse to think?? > VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energética sustentable www.ciercuba. com
Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?
Hi Russel, Please make sure you are using 10.148 as the center frequency. To do that I would set a dial frequency of 10.147 with USB on the rig (+- rig accuracy) and use a 1000 Hz offset (cursor frequency) in fldigi. Please also note that its a narrow mode and most servers use narrow filters so its very important to be right on top of the server. One good method is to listen for the server beacon and then fine tune the rig frequency. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Russell Blair To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 1:30:05 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server? Sri, my pinging is on 10.148 USB BPSK250. Russell Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its called the PRESENT! " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per wrote: From: Per Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server? To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM Hi Rick, Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had some success as well. Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server. I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-) The server saying "Hi KV9U, pse update your record" is an indication that it lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp sites, weather and much more. Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be added, its on a list of things to implement :-) 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Rick W To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server? I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right for daytime propagation. The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX. I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system. The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this. Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start somewhere. 73, Rick, KV9U Russell Blair wrote: > Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a > server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to. >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
There is no hidden linux in the java client, its just an application. No reboot and no dog involved. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 3:49:26 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF I didn’t . must have got lost in the linux :} I’ll google it . So is this a true windows software, or one where I have to reboot my computer using gopher or prairie dog or some other linux on a disc? John VE5MU From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:21 PM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw that message about PSKMAIL indeed being available in Windows/Java? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
Hi Rick, Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had some success as well. Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server. I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-) The server saying "Hi KV9U, pse update your record" is an indication that it lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp sites, weather and much more. Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/operation As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be added, its on a list of things to implement :-) 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Rick W To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server? I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right for daytime propagation. The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX. I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system. The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this. Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start somewhere. 73, Rick, KV9U Russell Blair wrote: > Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a > server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to. >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
Hi Steinar, Its stored at the pskmail server, you do not send it over the air when you access your email account. You can, however, update the settings that the server has for you over the air. Its also possible to have the server sysop enter your details in the local database. 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:18:47 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF Hi Rein, If I understand this correctly, I access my own email providers' pop server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I am connecting to the pop server ? 73 de LA5VNA Steinar pa0r wrote: > The difference is: > > for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail. > > PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more > interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS. > > 73, > > Rein PA0R > > --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher wrote: > >> Russell, >> >> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its >> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see >> http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands >> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the >> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too. >> >> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and >> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an >> external/expensive proprietary modem. >> >> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your >> problem but it's still in development. >> >> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of >> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you? >> >> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better >> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. >> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go. >> >> 73 Sholto >> K7TMG >> >> Russell Blair wrote: >> >>> >>> We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check >>> my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that >>> I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this >>> to happen, any help ? >>> >>> Russell >>> >>> Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why >>> its called the PRESENT! >>> >>> " IN GOD WE TRUST " >>> >>> Russell Blair (NC5O) >>> Skype-Russell. Blair >>> Hell Field #300 >>> DRCC #55 >>> 30m Dig-group #693 >>> >>> >>> > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
There is a java version that you can run on windows (xp, vista, whatever), mac and linux. Its dead easy to set up (just unzip). 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:57:14 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF PSKmail would gain a lot more traction if there was a windows version. Some of us can’t , or don’t want to get our heads around linux. It is just another variable in my limited computer skills John VE5MU From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of pa0r Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF The difference is: for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail. PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS. 73, Rein PA0R --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher wrote: > > Russell, > > MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its > 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see > http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands > throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the > received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too. > > Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and > for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an > external/expensive proprietary modem. > > In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your > problem but it's still in development. > > As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of > PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you? > > For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better > thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. > Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go. > > 73 Sholto > K7TMG > > Russell Blair wrote: > > > > > > > > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check > > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that > > I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this > > to happen, any help ? > > > > Russell > > > > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why > > its called the PRESENT! > > > > " IN GOD WE TRUST " > > > > Russell Blair (NC5O) > > Skype-Russell. Blair > > Hell Field #300 > > DRCC #55 > > 30m Dig-group #693 > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF
Hi Russel, The only solution I know that is capable of doing that is pskmail. You need to enable pop at yahoo but thats it. There is more info available here: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ 73 de Per, sm0rwo From: Russell Blair To: Digital Radio Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:39:51 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this to happen, any help ? Russell Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its called the PRESENT! " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
Re: [digitalradio] microHAM not compatible with Linux?
Looks like there is code in the kernel anyway (submitted 2005): http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2005-07/7308.html Perhaps its time to ask KL1RL that submitted the driver. 73, Pär SM0RWO - Original Message From: Rein Couperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:43:09 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] microHAM not compatible with Linux? I was the guy asking for documentation (hi). Sorry but no time at the moment. You may want to take a look at my winkey driver (which is the K1EL CW chip in the microHAM keyer). The Linux winkey driver is compatible with cwdaemon which does CW and PTT, and is a perl script running in user space.. 73, Rein PA0R > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: "Jaak Hohensee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gesendet: 23.09.08 10:57:52 > An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [digitalradio] microHAM not compatible with Linux? > > Hello > > I started using Acer AspireOne Linux version. Fldigi run nicely. > Bad news that microHAM DigiKeyer is not supported . > > microHAM support answer for my query: > There is no compatible software for DigiKeyer under Linux, or better > say, I'm not aware of any, despite there was several guys asking for > documentation. I'm sorry. > > 73 Jozef OM7ZZ > Hope this helps someone. > -- 73 de Jaak es1hj/qrp -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000
Hi, You can set the data rate and you can use 300 bps if you wish. Also, its not actually 2400 baud but rather 2400 bps. If I remember this right then a user data rate of 1200 bps would require a channel rate of 2400 bps. That channel rate is then sent at 1200 bauds using 4-psk (two bits per state change). But yes, if I remember the standard right then the actual baud rate is always more than 1200 bauds. 75 bps is a special case using a channel rate of 150 bps but it uses a really long word for each bit and the resulting baud rate is still too high (but legal here in europe). 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2007 3:36:08 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RFSM8000 John, If this modulation is the MIL-STD/FED- STD/STANAG 8PSK waveforms, wouldn't they be at 2400 baud at all times? We can not use baud rates over 300 here in the U.S. on the text digital portions of the bands, but they could possibly be used in the voice/image portions for sending images/fax. Possibly packets could be received as long as you are not linked and the program can send unconnected packets? What will be extremely helpful is for any experiences you have with data throughput vs S/N and interference. It is still curious to me that the promoters of "ALE" modes do not test these protocols in the voice portions of the bands. Also on 6 meters and up. There has been absolutely no measurements of S/N in real world tests on the amateur frequencies that we have heard thus far. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: > > Tnx fer the note, Howard > > > > Over the next week or so ,we should have VE5GPM up and running 24/7 on > RFSM 8000, not beaconing, but ready to receive calls and transfer files. > > > > VE5TLW and I will be working on learning the software and making a > little noise with same. I think we will find an alternate frequency to > play on since > > 14109.5 is busy with ALE soundings ,and will let you know what it is. > > > > To that end would welcome input from the US ham community since this > is a more critical issue south of the border than here. > > > > I THINK that you are able to use the non-standard modulation which is > 2.4khz wide , as opposed to the Mil Std 188 which is 3khz wide. You > should be able to copy any packets in the Packet window. > > > > Again , get some opinions from others in the US as to whether this is > legal , and where in the US band plan it could be used. At first > blush , it certainly has some promise. > > > > John > > VE5MU > > > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help
Ok, I have a few: 1: Check the md5sums (is your download ok), when you open the iso in your cd burner you should be able to calculate an md5sum, it should be what it says on the download page (a5119b1cd1ee77d4ade1474af788c5ea for the latest). 2. If the first suggestion is ok then try to remove any external device from your pc and reboot 3. If 2 didnt work then pse download the puppy image instead, it is here http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/puppy/ 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 10:32:44 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help Per, I let the PC sit for 45 minutes while loading the live CD. It stopped at the same line "Starting Hal". The CD and HD were dormant for 45 minutes. Any suggestions? Tony K2MO - Original Message ----- From: "Per" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > Strange, I didn't see your question here. Some > bug on yahoo perhaps (?). > Ok on the problems, to get the obvious out of > the way first: did you check the md5sums > when you burned it? Almost all problems in the > past have been caused by a faulty download. > > I can search for what to do about HAL in the > meantime. I have not had trouble there before, > will check. Can you also try to boot it and > leave it for a long while? Say 15 minutes or so, > that way I know its some timeout issue or > something. Can you also try to unplug whatever > external devices you have connected, could be > some hardware that HAL is trying hard to > recognize. > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > > > - Original Message > From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> > To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:56:19 AM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Roberto, > > > > I did try re-booting a few times, but the > problem > > is still there. I guess there might be a way > > around this, but not sure how it's done. > > > > Thanks Roberto... > > > > 73, Tony - K2MO > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Roberto IS0GRB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] it> > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > > > >> Hi Tony, i had also this problem. > >> I have solved rebooting the pc and the same > >> issue is disappeared. > >> I don't know what was the problem. > >> > >> At this url > >> http://www.redhat. com/magazine/ 003jan05/ >> features/ hal/ > >> > >> i see: > >> > >> How is HAL used in Fedora Core 3? : > >> In Fedora Core 3, HAL is used for discovering > >> storage, networking, digital > >> cameras, and printers. > >> > >> 73 > >> > >> Roberto IS0GRB > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Tony > >> To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:14 AM > >> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > >> > >> > >> Dear Per, > >> > >> I downloaded the latest PskMail Live CD and > >> bruned > >> it with an ISO utility. The burn was >> successful > >> and the program was working fine on my >> desktop. > >> > >> When I loaded the CD on my Laptop, the > >> installation stopped at "Starting HAL daemon". > >> I > >> waited a few minutes, but it would not >> continue > >> loading. Is there anything I can do to solve > >> this > >> problem? > >> > >> The Laptop is a Toshiba Satellite with a >> 1.5GHz > >> Celeron CPU and 512MB of RAM. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Tony, K2MO > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - - - - >> - - > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: > >> 269.13.6/991 - Release Date: 05/09/2007 > >> 14.55 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel > answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - > Check it out. > http://answers. yahoo.com/ dir/?link= list&sid= 396545469 > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help
Strange, I didn't see your question here. Some bug on yahoo perhaps (?). Ok on the problems, to get the obvious out of the way first: did you check the md5sums when you burned it? Almost all problems in the past have been caused by a faulty download. I can search for what to do about HAL in the meantime. I have not had trouble there before, will check. Can you also try to boot it and leave it for a long while? Say 15 minutes or so, that way I know its some timeout issue or something. Can you also try to unplug whatever external devices you have connected, could be some hardware that HAL is trying hard to recognize. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:56:19 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help Roberto, I did try re-booting a few times, but the problem is still there. I guess there might be a way around this, but not sure how it's done. Thanks Roberto... 73, Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: "Roberto IS0GRB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] it> To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > Hi Tony, i had also this problem. > I have solved rebooting the pc and the same > issue is disappeared. > I don't know what was the problem. > > At this url > http://www.redhat. com/magazine/ 003jan05/ features/ hal/ > > i see: > > How is HAL used in Fedora Core 3? : > In Fedora Core 3, HAL is used for discovering > storage, networking, digital > cameras, and printers. > > 73 > > Roberto IS0GRB > > > > - Original Message - > From: Tony > To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > > > Dear Per, > > I downloaded the latest PskMail Live CD and > bruned > it with an ISO utility. The burn was successful > and the program was working fine on my desktop. > > When I loaded the CD on my Laptop, the > installation stopped at "Starting HAL daemon". > I > waited a few minutes, but it would not continue > loading. Is there anything I can do to solve > this > problem? > > The Laptop is a Toshiba Satellite with a 1.5GHz > Celeron CPU and 512MB of RAM. > > Thanks, > > Tony, K2MO > > > > > > > - - - - - - > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: > 269.13.6/991 - Release Date: 05/09/2007 > 14.55 > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help
Hi Tony, I suppose a quick look at the system requirements could be helpful, you may have trouble booting really old hardware (stuff from the previous century). But, with a pretty standard pc you should just be able to boot. Regarding the external HD it can be accessed when running the live cd (if the file system is not ntfs). There is an installer on the cd if you should decide that you want to install it to your harddisk, just booting the cd and running it will not affect what is on your harddisk, should you use the installer then it will naturally install linux on your pc. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2007 9:27:44 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help Per, Thanks for the reply. I can download the software and burn it to CD. Is there anything I should know before I do this? I also have an external HD that connects via USB port. Would it be possible to download the software to this drive and access it when needed? Thanks again... Tony, K2MO - Original Message - From: "Per" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > Hi Tony, > > There are two different live cd's available now, > one based upon Mandriva and one on Puppy, please > have a look at the pskmail wiki for further > information. Its here: > http://pskmail. wikispaces. com > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > > > - Original Message > From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> > To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 10:06:13 PM > Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help > > > > > > > > > > > > > >All, > > > > Is it possible to run PSK-Mail from a Knoppix > Live > > CD? If not, how does one use PSK-Mail with a > > Windows OS? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tony - K2MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > http://searchmarket ing.yahoo. com/ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help
Hi Tony, There are two different live cd's available now, one based upon Mandriva and one on Puppy, please have a look at the pskmail wiki for further information. Its here: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 10:06:13 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Help All, Is it possible to run PSK-Mail from a Knoppix Live CD? If not, how does one use PSK-Mail with a Windows OS? Thanks, Tony - K2MO Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?
There is a "save to flash" and "restore from flash" in the menu on psklive cd. Its been there for a few months, the earliest versions lacked that but it was requested quite early on. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Jose A. Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 3, 2007 6:05:31 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ? I don't have it yet, just the Mandriva based one...and it worked so well with my PC hardware that I already installed it in one partition. That is the way I solved the vanishing configuration problem. Seems that my LiveCD wish list has been already fulfilled on the Puppy version. 73, Jose, CO2JA --- Andrew O'Brien wrote: > Jose, the latest Puppy ISO with PSKMAIL does that, gives an option to > save to flashdrive , CD, or a partition on the HD. > > Andy K3UK > _ _ _ ___ Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universi dad2008.cu Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?
There are no implementations for windows. You can run it under vmware or you can just use the live cd (there are two now, one based upon Mandriva and one on Puppy). Writing it for windows is possible, pskmail is open source so please go ahead if you wish. But, why bother? You can use the live cd on most pc's without even installing anything (if you can live without your precious ms only fonts of course). Puppy boots on most pc's and Mandriva makes better use of newer hardware so just try one (they are free). 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Peter G. Viscarola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:28:30 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ? This sounds like some interesting stuff to play with... but I've gotta ask: Why are there no PSKMail implementations that run on Windows? Is it just because "nobody's written one"? de Peter K1PGV Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ?
I have the server on 30 meters only at the moment. I am still trying to get a decent antenna at my new QTH and right now I'm testing a 30 meter dipole. When I get a better antenna I will start scanning again. PI4TUE was always on 30 meters only (scans two frequencies there). As for activity it varies, sometimes there are only aprs position beacons and sometimes its just not quiet at all. I cant say anything about the US servers however. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 1:38:28 PM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL ? Are the PSKMAIL servers JUST on 30M these days ? I am wondering how active the use of PSKMAIL is . Andy K3UK Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
Re: [digitalradio] Linux capable digital interfaces
Says here that linux does support it: www.wimo.com/soundcard-interfaces_e.html Kernels 2.6.17.8 and on should work, did you try a newer kernel? 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:30:49 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Linux capable digital interfaces I'm interested in playing around with a few digital mode applications that require linux. My digital modes interface, the Microkeyer, requires device drivers that will not work on linux. I'm not sure I have the energy to build an interface, so I am wondering if there are any basic interfaces out there that will work easily with linux (for PTT, rig control, etc)? I can use either serial ports or USB ports, but USB may be a bit more useful. I can , I guess, PTT the TS-2000 already using a basic RS232 serial cable, but I am lacking digital signal from PC to the rig for transmit, and some isolation circuitry. Since this is for occasional use only, I'm not looking to buy a expensive interface. Andu K3UK Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [digitalradio] Re: A.L.E., VHS and Betamax
Hi, Can't say I like what I hear here (I created that live cd)... Can you try the puppy live cd instead? Its an unstable alpha but perhaps you can get it to run anyway: http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/pskmail_puppy_0.4.3alpha2.tar.gz 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: cesco12342000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 6:18:28 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: A.L.E., VHS and Betamax > What we really need is a decentralized e-mail system that you could > connect to via some form of HF sound card mode. There is PSKmail, but > it only runs on Linux and to make this of more practical use, we would > need interoperability with MS Windows. I am searching for some example pskmail transfers. I dont want recorded audio, but the transferred text files of a mail exchange. I mean the data actually sent and received over psk, including all SOH headers, EOT, etc. Basically the files transferred between pskmail and fldigi (or gmfsk). Can someone help? btw i have tried to run the livecd version ... but it wont run on any of my 3 PC's. One deosent start up kde .. one seems too slow ... one doesent recognize the 3 soundcards ... 2 pc's run ubuntu livecd fine, but not the mandriva version. Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
Re: [digitalradio] 141A
I use Mandriva and I just tested multipsk with wine. I know absolutely nothing about the program but it does seem to work. I had a hard time trying to find the right buttons and I just could not transmit anything, guess I have to set some magic switch somewhere. The bottom line is that it looks like it works but I know to little about it to really try it. 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: Jose A. Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2007 3:13:49 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 141A It is a windows program that may work in Linux with wine. I don't know yet if it would work under other emulators (Crossover Office, etc). 73, Jose, CO2JA - kd4e wrote: > Is this app operating system neutral or is > it dependent on a single OS? > >> Both VE5GPM and VE5MU will be on 14109.5 during the next 24 hours. >> VE5GPM is a station at an emergency operations center (EOC) >> run by Saskatchewan Health and operated by ARES. The Province has agreed >> to let us do some testing of modes which would have use in >> Emergency communications. >> >> please download the latest version of 141A and try connecting and >> sending a message. >> >> software is available from >> http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_23_ 04_2007.ZIP >> <http://f6cte. free.fr/MULTIPSK _TEST_23_ 04_2007.ZIP> >> >> John VE5MU > > _ _ _ ___ V Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética. 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007 Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.cujae. edu.cu/eventos/ cier Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universi dad2008.cu We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265
[digitalradio] New PSKlive version available
Hi all, A new live cd for pskmail is now available! This cd features the latest versions of client and server for pskmail (with all the nice new features available there). Also there is xastir, tlf, wsjt, xdx, gmfsk, fldigi and much more to explore on the cd. Also available is Firefox, evolution, koffice etc. All the pskmail files are tied to our subversion server and its possible to update them while running (this feature will be enhanced even further). New scripts for backup and restore of your home folder are also on board. I recommend this mirror at the moment: http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/pub/linux/ham/pskmail/psklive_2007_2.iso (I hope it will soon be available on the US mirror as well). Thanks to all that have contributed to this release. 73 de Per, sm0rwo P.s. More info regarding this cd and PSKmail can be found at the wiki here: http://pskmail.wikispaces.com Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110
The slower speeds are better when the condx is worse, 75 bps and long interleave gets through just about anything. I have not really had to use it at that speed , 1200 bps gets through nicely too. I don't know how good the implementation in RFSM is, my experience is based upon years of daily use of the Harris RF-5710(A) modem so I need to use RFSM for a while to be able to say. Trouble is RFSM just doesn't play very well on linux, it hangs at times. 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- kv9u <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the 110A works this well at 2400 baud, what would > happen with slower > speeds? From what I understand, it does require a > good signal to get > through, perhaps comparable to the WinDRM software > at maybe +10 S/N dB > or maybe a bit below that? > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > Per wrote: > > Well, MIL-STD-188-110A uses a single phase shifted > > tone , I guess that made it even more > non-intuitive ? > > The difference between packet and this MIL-STD is > just > > huge. Interleaver to fight fade and QRM, > equalization > > to benefit from multipath and the list could just > go > > on and on. 300 baud packet is a joke. > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110
Well, MIL-STD-188-110A uses a single phase shifted tone , I guess that made it even more non-intuitive ? The difference between packet and this MIL-STD is just huge. Interleaver to fight fade and QRM, equalization to benefit from multipath and the list could just go on and on. 300 baud packet is a joke. 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- kv9u <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It still seems a bit non-intuitive that using a 2400 > baud rate with two > tones can work well and yet 300 baud packet hardly > works well at all. > There is something that I am missing here. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > expeditionradio wrote: > > > > Yes. MIL STD 188-110 is in PCALE software (along > with standard ALE). > > Operators have been using -110 (outside USA) for > data files. > > I was using the RFSM2400 while I was in Hong Kong, > China. > > It is a good system, and the modified narrow > version takes no > > more bandwidth than some other digital modes or > SSB voice. > > > > As you know, USA has an arbitrary 300 > symbol/second limit in > > the USA Data Subbands. But there is no such 300 > baud limit in > > the "phone and image" subbands, so some of us in > USA have > > used -110 to send image files. It does that quite > well, but > > the real forte of -110 is data FTP and email. > > > > Wow... 2007... a shame that USA hams are living > under those > > antiquated FCC rules made for the previous > century's technology. > > USA hams still sit rotting in the FCC's technology > jail. > > > > The rest of the world's hams can use RFSM2400 > freely for data or mail. > > > > Bonnie KQ6XA > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Re: [digitalradio] Linux software
fldigi does all that and more: http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html Here's more than you probably need: http://radio.linux.org.au/ How old is the pc ? 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a older computer that I am thinking about > setting up and using > Linux(want to try it). Is there a lot of software > for digital modes for > linux, I mainly do PSK31,Hell and RTTY. > Any help/suggestions would be welcomed. > > 73 > Kurt > K8YZK > > Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail
[digitalradio] The ultimate emergency laptop ?
A few highlights from the specs: * nominally consumes less than two watts, can be recharged by human power * Power: 2-pin DC-input, 10 to 25 V, -23 to -10 V * 7.5 inch, 1200x900 pixel, TFT screen * Experience shows that the laptop components most likely to fail are its hard drive and internal connectors. XO has no hard drive to crash and only two internal cables. For added robustness, the machine's plastic walls are 2.0mm thick, as opposed to the standard 1.3mm. * Mass storage: 512 MiB SLC NAND flash, high speed flash controller * CPU: AMD Geode [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Audio: Analog Devices AD1888, AC97-compatible audio * Line output: Standard 3.5mm 3-pin switched stereo audio jack * Microphone: Standard 3.5mm 2-pin switched mono microphone jack * 3 Type-A USB-2.0 connectors; SD Card slot * Runs customized Fedora Core 6 Detailed specs with pictures: http://laptop.org/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml Cost: $100 The catch ? Its only for children in developing nations and no commercial sales planed. Does anyone know of some other laptop resembling this ? 73 de Per, sm0rwo Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for 1/21/07
--- Rein Couperus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > Gesendet: 21.01.07 03:27:16 > > An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL Severs for > 1/21/07 > > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew > O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think I will try to connect to a PSKMAIL sever > using PSK125 tomorrow > > > , UTC 1/21/07, probably around 1300 hours. For > the servers that list > > > thy are "scanning" , does smeone running the > client just issue a > > > connect command and how that the Server scans > that frequency at that > > > time ? I'm assuming a European server on 20M > Will be the best option. > > > > Call 0 min. 1 min.2 min. 3 min.4 > > SM0RWO 10148.00 14077.00 18105.00 3595.25 7038.00 > Active > > PSK125 PSK125 PSK125PSK63 PSK125 > > > PI4TUE 10147.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 > 10148.00 Active > >PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 PSK125 > > > > Ok, I'm slowly understanding this. Looks like my > best bet will be > > SM0RWO at 1 minute on 14077 PSK125 , I doubt I;ll > make it on 30M to > > Europe, > > > > 14 MHz will be best, or 18105. > SM0RWO's beacon is on, if there is condx you can > hear it 1 minute after the hour. > > 73, > > Rein EA/PA0R/P > -- > http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Hi, Condx is not the very best so it could be difficult. I have enabled the beacon on ALL the frequencies in the scan. If you can hear that then there is hope, the beacon follows the scan schedule: Minute 0 10148 1 14077 2 18105 3 3595,25 4 7038 The beacon is enabled for minutes 0-4 every hour. I use a 75 meter long delta loop that I feed using an ATU, output is 100 watts right now. If you can't hear this station then I recommend looking at the wiki and joining the pskmail mailing list, some US hams run servers as well and that could be a better solution. 73 de Per, sm0rwo TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [digitalradio] PAX 2 with Linux?
I have that server under my desk here and I wondered why it was working so hard, I guess I know why now :-) I only have abt 5 Mbps upstream so this could take a while for some. Great that there was an article on pskmail, Rein has done a great job and pskmail is ready for a bigger crowd. Its exciting news, will be fun to see where this takes us. 73 de Per, sm0rwo Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Re: [digitalradio] PAX 2 with Linux?
We have had APRS integrated for quite a while. Position reports and message handling is supported. For instance Rein had QSO's from Spain on 30 meters that was gated through my server in Stockholm and then gated out on 2 meters APRS in Holland. Message flow back and forth was quite similar to a standard 2 meter aprs qso. Regarding other modes we currently use fldigi as a modem for pskmail. PSKmail can control fldigi and switch mode at will and according to a scan scheme or a schedule. I currently use PSK63 on 80 and 20 meters and PSK125 for all other bands (30,17 and 12). PI4TUE and PA0R are experimenting with Dominoex and if fldigi was to support PAX2 then I guess we could test that as well. Also, experiments are underway with integration of MIL-STD-188-110A using RFSM2400. Dmitry have implemented the IPC mechanism that we use for PSKmail so this will be interesting to test (2000 bps could be interesting). 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now this is a truly exciting Web site! > > http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/ > > Will have to contact the developer and ask about > plans for PAX 2 or other apps. I see that he is > working on APRS integration. > > > Is there a PAX 2 app for Linux yet? > > > -- > > Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E > ... in sunny & warm Florida :-) > ~~~ > Thank our brave soldiers this season: > http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home1024.html > ~~~ > URL: bibleseven (dot) com > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com
Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400?
I would be interested in trying it as well! Are you guys QRV somewhere ? 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steinar, I downloaded it and have it "working" with > my rig, what frequencies > are people using this standard ? > > Andy K3UK > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steinar Aanesland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > . Have > > you tested the MIL-STD-188-110 PSK modem yet ( > > > http://neurosis.hungry.com/~ben/radio/188-110/rfsm2400_v037.zip) > ? It is > > really a nice piece of software. > > > > 73 de LA5VNA Steinar > > Norway > > > > Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: [digitalradio] pskmail
This one: http://www.crusefalk.se/psklive.htm I have created this live cd specifically for pskmail. 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which live cd has this program ? > > david/wd4kpd > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] PSKMail Live cd distro
Hi, A new experimental version of a live cd for PSKMail is now available. This cd allows "any" pc to boot a working linux system that is ready for use as a PSKMail client. What OS is on your harddisk is of no relevance, you dont even need a HD for this to work. For hardware requirements please read on. Bear in mind that this is an experimental distro and as such there may be issues and surprising "features" in there. The cd is based upon Mandriva 2006 and more info regarding hardware requirements can be found on their website here: http://www.mandriva.com/community/mandrivaone The distro contains a whole lot of stuff, some of it is: PSKMail, client for pskmail system gMFSK, multimode HF terminal (PSK31, 63, MT63, MFSK etc) tlf, for logging kde 3.4, firefox and evolution etc. The live distro is avaliable at: http://www.crusefalk.se/psklive.htm 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail
Sure, my server is busy as I am typing this. Have a look at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com for a current list of servers. All servers are not available on the wiki, there are a few in the US that is active from time to time. Info abt those is available on the mailing list (see the wiki). 73 de Per, sm0rwo - Original Message From: jhaynesatalumni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:01:41 AM Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail I see it mentioned from time to time - are there any servers one can monitor or exchange traffic with? I don't know where/when to look for them. It looks like the changes to gMFSK are already included in the w1hkj gMFSK sources (but have to be enabled at compile time). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail again
If pskmail is what you want to try then perhaps Mandriva or Ubuntu are better choices. Im sure puppy will work as well but Rein uses Ububtu and I Mandriva so there are written instructions regarding how to setup pskmail for those. Both of these distros are completely free, I suggest you download and burn an iso of either. Mandriva is here: http://wwwnew.mandriva.com/en/downloads/mirrors/2006iso Ubuntu is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download My general perception of these two is that Mandriva has been around longer and is a bit more polished than Ubuntu. Ubuntu is however coming very strong and is leading in popularity at distrowatch. There is commercial stuff available for Mandriva and I believe Ubuntu has a more purist approach to such. I believe either to be a good choice, at the moment I like Mandriva better and Rein uses Ubuntu. 73 de Per SM0RWO __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail again
Installing linux is easy, just go ahead and if you are wondering about anything then just ask me. PSKMail uses hamlib for rig control (their web site is very informative). My IC-706MKIIG is controlled by a USB cable but a standard serial cable is just as good. COM1 is ttyS0, a usb-cable is ttyUSB0 etc. 73 de Per SM0RWO P.s Let me know when u want to log on to pskmail, I'll add you to the server. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
Yes, that could be an option. Perhaps an easier way would be to implement some sort of IPC interface in one of the psk packages for windows? Multipsk was mentioned on this thread, I know nothing about it but can you make it report reception to one file and watch for the existence of another file (transmit its contents and delete it) ? Of course a socket would be better but the files are an easy way to get started. 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- Paul L Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It should be noted that the gMFSK *might* be able to > be be compiled under Cygwin. Gnome-2, fftw, etc. > are > available under Cygwin... it might make for a fairly > complicated install, but it should be do-able. > > 73, > > Paul / K9PS > > Per wrote: > > No windows version, only linux. > > There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when > > that will be available. Its all open source so you > are > > quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl > and > > that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK > that > > will need to be replaced by something else. The > short > > answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try > ! > > > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > > > > > > --- holopainen_tommi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows > >>users? > >> > >>-Tommi oh7jjt- > >> > >> > >>--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>>It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing > > >>>sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than > >> > >>pactor > >> > >>>in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and > the > >>>link fails rarely. > >>> > >>>I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you > >> > >>can > >> > >>>hear it then I can easily add you to the list of > >>>users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and > >> > >>quite > >> > >>>a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting > >> > >>some > >> > >>>surplus military radios that I will use for that > >>>server so I could put something up on another > >>>frequency as well. > >>> > >>>If you wonder about what it can do then let me > >> > >>just > >> > >>>say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and > >> > >>web > >> > >>>browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). > >> > >>Also, > >> > >>>it handles aprs position updates. > >>> > >>>At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, > >>>pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing > >>>needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and > >>>receives his email. He has aprs position beacons > >> > >>on > >> > >>>and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs > >> > >>over > >> > >>>a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. > >>> > >>>73 de Per, sm0rwo > >>> > >>> > >>>__ > >>>Do You Yahoo!? > >>>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >> > >>protection around > >> > >>>http://mail.yahoo.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to > Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > > > Other areas of interest: > > > > The MixW Reflector : > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > > DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol > (band plan policy discussion) > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSKmail
No windows version, only linux. There are plans for a live-cd, don't know now when that will be available. Its all open source so you are quite welcome to have a look. Its written in perl and that runs on windows, the one obstacle is gMFSK that will need to be replaced by something else. The short answer is then: no, go ahead and give linux a try ! 73 de Per, sm0rwo --- holopainen_tommi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems very interesting, but nothing to windows > users? > > -Tommi oh7jjt- > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Per > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing > > sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than > pactor > > in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the > > link fails rarely. > > > > I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you > can > > hear it then I can easily add you to the list of > > users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and > quite > > a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting > some > > surplus military radios that I will use for that > > server so I could put something up on another > > frequency as well. > > > > If you wonder about what it can do then let me > just > > say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and > web > > browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). > Also, > > it handles aprs position updates. > > > > At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, > > pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing > > needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and > > receives his email. He has aprs position beacons > on > > and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs > over > > a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. > > > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail
It's arq so in some ways it is like a less timing sensitive pactor. I think its a lot better than pactor in many ways. Anyway, it works really well and the link fails rarely. I have a server online on 10.148 kHz and if you can hear it then I can easily add you to the list of users. There is a beacon at hh:01 every hour and quite a lot of traffic during daytime. I'm expecting some surplus military radios that I will use for that server so I could put something up on another frequency as well. If you wonder about what it can do then let me just say that it handles regular email, pop/smtp, and web browsing using elinks (text based web browsing). Also, it handles aprs position updates. At the moment Rein/pa0r is in Spain on vacation, pskmail takes care of his email and web browsing needs. He logs on a few times a day and sends and receives his email. He has aprs position beacons on and that info is available on www.findu.com, aprs over a 2200 km path through pskmail that is. 73 de Per, sm0rwo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail
Yes, I do. I've got a server on-line and a few clients also. Im the one to blame if you fail to install it on a Mandrake/Mandriva distro (my humble contribution). I've run it for a week here and I've got a few things to add to that instruvtion (for the server). Bottom line is that it works. There are things to fix and improve but it has shown that it can pass emails ! 73's de Per, sm0rwo --- DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://sharon.esrac.ele.tue.nl/~pa0r/pskmail/ > > Has anyone taken a look at PSKmail or is anyone > using it? > > Considering how PSK63 works, this ought to be the > start of something really > good. > > Walt/K5YFW > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~-> The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] AMTOR/PACTOR
I'd answer you now but I'm going on a "DXpedition" to OH0 in the morning so I must pack.. I'll be qrv on amtor, pactor and gtor only during the week. I've got scheds set for gtor/pactor and I'll be qrv for local qso's on 3595 kHz (f0) pactor/gtor. I'll listen around for you when conditions might be favourable during the week (on 20 meters then). I'm running qrp (FT-817) so it may be difficult... 73's de Pär (SM0RWO or OH0/SM0RWO next week). p.s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] works for setting up scheds. --- Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the frequency Kenneth? > I am making noise on 20m around 14078 looking for > Q's > > 73, KU2A > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] gtor ?
Me too, great for testing things. I've been sailing for a week and I've run tests with antennas and modes during that time. It's great to have an automated station to connect to. I've connected to my own home schack and to a friends, he's away at work so an arq-mode is the only way to go. Gtor was interesting, sad that it didn't evolve into something widespread and better. If only the TNC manufacturers could produce something like MT63-arq and make it standard... (No, I don't want to have the computer running 24/7 as I've only got solar power and the refrigerator has higher priority.) 73 de Per/SM0RWO --- John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good, I just love the ARQ modes. > > > At 08:36 AM 7/8/05, you wrote: > >True, but gtor is a mode I've never tried. > >I've got a sched set up so I'll try out tonight. > >73's > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] gtor ?
True, but gtor is a mode I've never tried. I've got a sched set up so I'll try out tonight. 73's --- John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May have better luck with Amtor or Pactor. > > > > > At 04:58 PM 7/7/05, you wrote: > >I've just purchased a KAM Plus through ebay and I'm > >wondering if anyone would like to try a gtor qso ? > >I'll be calling cq tomorrow evening on 20 m but I'm > >pretty sure the pile-up will be rather moderate... > > > >73's de Per, sm0rwo > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] gtor ?
I've just purchased a KAM Plus through ebay and I'm wondering if anyone would like to try a gtor qso ? I'll be calling cq tomorrow evening on 20 m but I'm pretty sure the pile-up will be rather moderate... 73's de Per, sm0rwo Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ More info at http:///www.obriensweb.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about HF-email
--- Harv Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/18/05, Per <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am wondering if Linux WINE will run Airmail? > If > > > someone knows or has done > > > > this, I'd like to know. Airmail is a great > little > > > GUI that does anything > > > > you need to do. If working with an external > > > device that will do Pactor. > > > > Sure, I'm running it now. > > Either associate exe files with wine (filetypes or > > 'open with') or type 'wine Airmail3.exe' in the > right > > directory. I'm using Mandriva linux (formerly > known as > > Mandrake) with a default install. > > > > /Per, sm0rwo > > > > Hi Per.. > > Which version of Wine/CrossOver are you running > there. > > Thanks a bunch > > 73 > > Harv, AI9NL > rpm -qa | grep wine: wine-20050211-2mdk libwine1-20050211-2mdk Just wine, not crossover. 73's. Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about HF-email
> > I am wondering if Linux WINE will run Airmail? If > someone knows or has done > > this, I'd like to know. Airmail is a great little > GUI that does anything > > you need to do. If working with an external > device that will do Pactor. Sure, I'm running it now. Either associate exe files with wine (filetypes or 'open with') or type 'wine Airmail3.exe' in the right directory. I'm using Mandriva linux (formerly known as Mandrake) with a default install. /Per, sm0rwo Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/