Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
dear kevin
just drop norbert a mail and he will answer how to solve the problem
i will forward this mail to him  maybe he has a solution
greetz
dg9bfc
sigi
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Mitchell 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145



  HI,

  I have just downloaded this program and installed it on my radio computer.
  Problem, when I run it after installing I get the error message Run-time 
error '372'
  Failed to load control 'RichTestBox' from RICHTX32.OCX. Your version of 
RICHTX32.OCX may be outdated. Make sure you are using the version of control 
that was provided with your application.

  I am running XP Pro and have down-loaded VB6 Runtime from the MFTTY website. 
I have even downloaded the RICHTX32.OCX file and followed the instructions to 
install on my computer, BUT this has not fixed the problem, still getting the 
same error message.

  Is there any reason why this might be happening? Any help would be grateful

  Kevin, ZL1KFM.


   
  On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:35 PM, F.R. Ashley gda...@clearwire.net wrote:


I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once gotten a 
response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone hiding?
I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded there 
with PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no luck there either.

Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?

73 Buddy WB4M
  - Original Message - 
  From: W6IDS 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145


  To All,

  I did download the new release and found a couple of things.

  Pressing the Appointments button takes me to K3UK's page but there's no 
way to
  post comments or log in.

  If I instead go to my Favorites and select the page, I can log in and 
post comments, etc.

  Also, I've been running in HALF setting.  Has anyone tried the other 
settings: Double or 1/4?
  I tried Normal and found garbage on the screen with no success in 
cleaning it up, operator
  error possibility not withstanding.

  Is there a real incentive for operators to be able to change tone 
frequencies in the TX options?

  Are we supposed to uninstall the previous release before unpacking a 
newer release?

  After running the newest version now for a few minutes, I find now that I 
cannot get it to go to
  maximized from a minimized condition.  The small replica of the program 
does appear when
  moving the cursor to the minimized position on the lower bar.

  I also downloaded the Magic Clip, I believe it is called, and am playing 
with that for a bit.

  Is there some way to save the definitions created in the Macro Keys 
rather than have them
  erased each time a newer version of the software is installed?  That is 
one reason why I
  am looking at that Magic Clip thingie and not just to reduce my 
transmitting burden

  I know this is a new mode, but has anyone determined just what the 
direction will be for
  MFTTY?  I think it's a slick offering but.that's just me.  I'd be 
curious about other
  thoughts.

  Howard W6IIDS
  Richmond, IN
- Original Message - 
From: Siegfried Jackstien 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Version .144


new version of mftty
now it is version 30.145
see here
http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/index.html
download it and try it out
 SNIP

greetz
dg9bfc





   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
dear buddy
just go on the spot page (chatpage) and there you can find others to test with
greetz
dg9bfc
sigi


Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
dear howard
answers are intermitted in your txt


To All,

I did download the new release and found a couple of things.

Pressing the Appointments button takes me to K3UK's page but there's no way to
post comments or log in.

If I instead go to my Favorites and select the page, I can log in and post 
comments, etc.


 i dropped a mail to norbert that the link has to be changed

Also, I've been running in HALF setting.  Has anyone tried the other settings: 
Double or 1/4?
I tried Normal and found garbage on the screen with no success in cleaning it 
up, operator
error possibility not withstanding.

 i tested the software with my pc mic laying in front of my pc speaker with
 different speed settings . all worked fine



Is there a real incentive for operators to be able to change tone frequencies 
in the TX options?

 some users use narrow filters or passband tuning when opperating digital 
 modes
 if you have your sweet dpot maybe on 1500hz or on 2000hz changing option 
 of
 the af frequency is a must have


Are we supposed to uninstall the previous release before unpacking a newer 
release?

 i never deinstalled the older versions but you have to cklick on
 don´t make shortcuts in the programmfolder and don´t make shortcut on
 desktop during the installing process
 but the cleanest way is to deinstall the older version before installing a 
 new one


After running the newest version now for a few minutes, I find now that I 
cannot get it to go to
maximized from a minimized condition.  The small replica of the program does 
appear when
moving the cursor to the minimized position on the lower bar.

 on my pc i can minimize to taskbar and when clicked on the tab on the 
 taskbar
 the programm reopens to normal size
 don´t know what is the problem c ause on my pc all is working fine
 you should send a mail to norbert and tell him that problem

I also downloaded the Magic Clip, I believe it is called, and am playing with 
that for a bit.

 i didn´t try this magic clip so i can´t say anything about


Is there some way to save the definitions created in the Macro Keys rather than 
have them
erased each time a newer version of the software is installed?  That is one 
reason why I
am looking at that Magic Clip thingie and not just to reduce my transmitting 
burden

 just backup text1.txt text2.txt ... text8.txt
 after installing the new version just copy them back to programmfolder

I know this is a new mode, but has anyone determined just what the direction 
will be for
MFTTY?  I think it's a slick offering but.that's just me.  I'd be curious 
about other
thoughts.

 just a new mode for weak signal :-)

best 73´s de dg9bfc
sigi

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Steinar Aanesland


Well,   I don't see the problem if the Tower of Babel is getting larger
and larger. I think diversity is crucial to innovation. 
I find it satisfactory to play with new modes, and I have to play with
them to find out  what the
advantages are (..) over previous modes .

My thanks to all of you guys who is working making free software for the
ham community .

73 de LA5VNA Steinar


Rick W wrote:
 Is it just possible that there is not that much interest in the mode? I 
 did download the software yesterday and tried setting it up but I was 
 not able to get the RTS line keying the rig. I was able to listen to the 
 tones and it does appear to be DTMF tones.

 The question is ... why have yet another mode, unless it has some new 
 capabilities over what we already have? I think that some of us are 
 getting a bit concerned that the Tower of Babel is getting larger and 
 larger, and the result is not necessarily better digital communications, 
 but just more separate communications which reduces our interoperability.

 Would it not be better to use this tremendous energy and knowledge to 
 further the radio art and develop low cost technologies that work better 
 and faster and most importantly, adaptable to conditions?

 If some feel that I am being unfair, then could you please explain what 
 the advantages are of this mode over previous modes?

 73,

 Rick, KV9U


 F.R. Ashley wrote:
   
 *I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once 
 gotten a response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone 
 hiding?*
 *I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded 
 there with PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no 
 luck there either.*
 ** 
 *Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?*
 ** 
 *73 Buddy WB4M*
 


   
 


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread kh6ty
There is always a search for a Holy Grail of digital modes for ham radio, 
with ease of use, performance, robustness, resistance to atmospheric 
doppler, bandwidth, speed, FUN, etc!

Personally, I just like the musical sound of MFTTY and appreciate the 
uniqueness of Norbert's approach. Once the user friendliness gets ironed 
out, I look forward to being able to find people using the mode often. MFTTY 
is easily distinguishable from other modes - it sounds a little like Throb 
perhaps, but not idential, so I do not think it is so much a different 
tongue on the Tower of Babel that is difficult to distinguish on the 
waterfall presentation, as some of the flavors of Olivia and DominoEx are.

Other opinions may vary, of course, but my opinion is that I just ENJOY 
using the mode. It probably will never be as popular as PSK31 for chatting, 
but it definitely is FUN in my persoanl opinion! (I am one of those old guys 
who started with a green key machine on RTTY and miss the clatter and smell 
of the machine oil - but I also appreciate the progress in performance, 
convenience, and friendliness of the soundcard modes).

Let's all play with MFTTY and send Norbert our comments and suggestions. It 
might turn out to be more than it appears at first glance. One thing is for 
sure, Norbert has done a very complete and respectable job on these initial 
beta implementations!

73, Skip KH6TY

- Original Message - 
From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145




 Well,   I don't see the problem if the Tower of Babel is getting larger
 and larger. I think diversity is crucial to innovation.
 I find it satisfactory to play with new modes, and I have to play with
 them to find out  what the
 advantages are (..) over previous modes .

 My thanks to all of you guys who is working making free software for the
 ham community .

 73 de LA5VNA Steinar


 Rick W wrote:
 Is it just possible that there is not that much interest in the mode? I
 did download the software yesterday and tried setting it up but I was
 not able to get the RTS line keying the rig. I was able to listen to the
 tones and it does appear to be DTMF tones.

 The question is ... why have yet another mode, unless it has some new
 capabilities over what we already have? I think that some of us are
 getting a bit concerned that the Tower of Babel is getting larger and
 larger, and the result is not necessarily better digital communications,
 but just more separate communications which reduces our interoperability.

 Would it not be better to use this tremendous energy and knowledge to
 further the radio art and develop low cost technologies that work better
 and faster and most importantly, adaptable to conditions?

 If some feel that I am being unfair, then could you please explain what
 the advantages are of this mode over previous modes?

 73,

 Rick, KV9U


 F.R. Ashley wrote:

 *I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once
 gotten a response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone
 hiding?*
 *I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded
 there with PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no
 luck there either.*
 **
 *Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?*
 **
 *73 Buddy WB4M*




 


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Rick W
DTMF tones are easy to distinguish for us OT's. Maybe not so easy for 
new digital hams, but and that might be a useful characteristic as long 
as it can compete well against the existing modes of which we have many, 
some with not that much difference in performance.

A couple days ago I started working on a new document that looked at the 
various digital modes, particularly the sound card modes, to put some 
kind of perspective for hams new to digital modes. But after working on 
this for a while, I realized that there were only a few that do work 
well in terms of speed vs ISI vs Doppler, vs weak signal, vs bandwidth, 
etc., so it is nearly a moot point. And even though some modes are 
superior to other modes under some conditions, if no one uses them, then 
no matter how good they may be, it won't matter.

Over the past few years, we have seen a new mode come along, get a lot 
of comments on groups like this one to try and coordinate with other 
hams, sometimes successfully and sometimes not. But after a few weeks, 
it dies down and you never hear much again.

If I understand Patrick, F6CTE's critique of his implementation of DTMF, 
which has been in Multipsk for some time, this is not a weak signal mode 
and requires signals to be well above zero dB S/N. Or is this 
implementation that much different?

I sure do not miss the green keys and my Model 15 TTY and homebrew TU 
and loop supply. I am totally sold on computer generated digital modes, 
especially the sound card modes that avoid vendor lock in and special 
hardware.

73,

Rick, KV9U







kh6ty wrote:
 There is always a search for a Holy Grail of digital modes for ham radio, 
 with ease of use, performance, robustness, resistance to atmospheric 
 doppler, bandwidth, speed, FUN, etc!

 Personally, I just like the musical sound of MFTTY and appreciate the 
 uniqueness of Norbert's approach. Once the user friendliness gets ironed 
 out, I look forward to being able to find people using the mode often. MFTTY 
 is easily distinguishable from other modes - it sounds a little like Throb 
 perhaps, but not idential, so I do not think it is so much a different 
 tongue on the Tower of Babel that is difficult to distinguish on the 
 waterfall presentation, as some of the flavors of Olivia and DominoEx are.

 Other opinions may vary, of course, but my opinion is that I just ENJOY 
 using the mode. It probably will never be as popular as PSK31 for chatting, 
 but it definitely is FUN in my persoanl opinion! (I am one of those old guys 
 who started with a green key machine on RTTY and miss the clatter and smell 
 of the machine oil - but I also appreciate the progress in performance, 
 convenience, and friendliness of the soundcard modes).

 Let's all play with MFTTY and send Norbert our comments and suggestions. It 
 might turn out to be more than it appears at first glance. One thing is for 
 sure, Norbert has done a very complete and respectable job on these initial 
 beta implementations!

 73, Skip KH6TY

   



Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
dear rick
conventional dtmf does need a very good s/n ratio BUT
in mftty there are slower modes with much less shift and very narrow filters
so you can pick up a very low signal out of the noise
you know surely if bandwith is getting lower the s/n increases
i tested the soft off-air and i could detect a signal with my pc mic in front 
of pc speaker
that i could not detect by ear ... and i had some background noise during the 
test cause my girlfriend was watching tv :-)
i know that this is not a real test like testing it on the air but i am sure it 
will work for weak signals
greetz
dg9bfc
sigi
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick W 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145


  DTMF tones are easy to distinguish for us OT's. Maybe not so easy for 
  new digital hams, but and that might be a useful characteristic as long 
  as it can compete well against the existing modes of which we have many, 
  some with not that much difference in performance.

  A couple days ago I started working on a new document that looked at the 
  various digital modes, particularly the sound card modes, to put some 
  kind of perspective for hams new to digital modes. But after working on 
  this for a while, I realized that there were only a few that do work 
  well in terms of speed vs ISI vs Doppler, vs weak signal, vs bandwidth, 
  etc., so it is nearly a moot point. And even though some modes are 
  superior to other modes under some conditions, if no one uses them, then 
  no matter how good they may be, it won't matter.

  Over the past few years, we have seen a new mode come along, get a lot 
  of comments on groups like this one to try and coordinate with other 
  hams, sometimes successfully and sometimes not. But after a few weeks, 
  it dies down and you never hear much again.

  If I understand Patrick, F6CTE's critique of his implementation of DTMF, 
  which has been in Multipsk for some time, this is not a weak signal mode 
  and requires signals to be well above zero dB S/N. Or is this 
  implementation that much different?

  I sure do not miss the green keys and my Model 15 TTY and homebrew TU 
  and loop supply. I am totally sold on computer generated digital modes, 
  especially the sound card modes that avoid vendor lock in and special 
  hardware.

  73,

  Rick, KV9U

  kh6ty wrote:
   There is always a search for a Holy Grail of digital modes for ham radio, 
   with ease of use, performance, robustness, resistance to atmospheric 
   doppler, bandwidth, speed, FUN, etc!
  
   Personally, I just like the musical sound of MFTTY and appreciate the 
   uniqueness of Norbert's approach. Once the user friendliness gets ironed 
   out, I look forward to being able to find people using the mode often. 
MFTTY 
   is easily distinguishable from other modes - it sounds a little like Throb 
   perhaps, but not idential, so I do not think it is so much a different 
   tongue on the Tower of Babel that is difficult to distinguish on the 
   waterfall presentation, as some of the flavors of Olivia and DominoEx are.
  
   Other opinions may vary, of course, but my opinion is that I just ENJOY 
   using the mode. It probably will never be as popular as PSK31 for chatting, 
   but it definitely is FUN in my persoanl opinion! (I am one of those old 
guys 
   who started with a green key machine on RTTY and miss the clatter and smell 
   of the machine oil - but I also appreciate the progress in performance, 
   convenience, and friendliness of the soundcard modes).
  
   Let's all play with MFTTY and send Norbert our comments and suggestions. It 
   might turn out to be more than it appears at first glance. One thing is for 
   sure, Norbert has done a very complete and respectable job on these initial 
   beta implementations!
  
   73, Skip KH6TY
  
   



   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
100%agree
dg9bfc
sigi
  - Original Message - 
  From: kh6ty 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145


  There is always a search for a Holy Grail of digital modes for ham radio, 
  with ease of use, performance, robustness, resistance to atmospheric 
  doppler, bandwidth, speed, FUN, etc!

  Personally, I just like the musical sound of MFTTY and appreciate the 
  uniqueness of Norbert's approach. Once the user friendliness gets ironed 
  out, I look forward to being able to find people using the mode often. MFTTY 
  is easily distinguishable from other modes - it sounds a little like Throb 
  perhaps, but not idential, so I do not think it is so much a different 
  tongue on the Tower of Babel that is difficult to distinguish on the 
  waterfall presentation, as some of the flavors of Olivia and DominoEx are.

  Other opinions may vary, of course, but my opinion is that I just ENJOY 
  using the mode. It probably will never be as popular as PSK31 for chatting, 
  but it definitely is FUN in my persoanl opinion! (I am one of those old guys 
  who started with a green key machine on RTTY and miss the clatter and smell 
  of the machine oil - but I also appreciate the progress in performance, 
  convenience, and friendliness of the soundcard modes).

  Let's all play with MFTTY and send Norbert our comments and suggestions. It 
  might turn out to be more than it appears at first glance. One thing is for 
  sure, Norbert has done a very complete and respectable job on these initial 
  beta implementations!

  73, Skip KH6TY

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

  
  
   Well, I don't see the problem if the Tower of Babel is getting larger
   and larger. I think diversity is crucial to innovation.
   I find it satisfactory to play with new modes, and I have to play with
   them to find out  what the
   advantages are (..) over previous modes .
  
   My thanks to all of you guys who is working making free software for the
   ham community .
  
   73 de LA5VNA Steinar
  
  
   Rick W wrote:
   Is it just possible that there is not that much interest in the mode? I
   did download the software yesterday and tried setting it up but I was
   not able to get the RTS line keying the rig. I was able to listen to the
   tones and it does appear to be DTMF tones.
  
   The question is ... why have yet another mode, unless it has some new
   capabilities over what we already have? I think that some of us are
   getting a bit concerned that the Tower of Babel is getting larger and
   larger, and the result is not necessarily better digital communications,
   but just more separate communications which reduces our interoperability.
  
   Would it not be better to use this tremendous energy and knowledge to
   further the radio art and develop low cost technologies that work better
   and faster and most importantly, adaptable to conditions?
  
   If some feel that I am being unfair, then could you please explain what
   the advantages are of this mode over previous modes?
  
   73,
  
   Rick, KV9U
  
  
   F.R. Ashley wrote:
  
   *I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once
   gotten a response or even heard an MFTTY station. Where is everyone
   hiding?*
   *I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded
   there with PSK and all. I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no
   luck there either.*
   **
   *Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?*
   **
   *73 Buddy WB4M*
  
  
  
  
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-15 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
100%agree
dg9bfc
sigi
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steinar Aanesland 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145




  Well, I don't see the problem if the Tower of Babel is getting larger
  and larger. I think diversity is crucial to innovation. 
  I find it satisfactory to play with new modes, and I have to play with
  them to find out  what the
  advantages are (..) over previous modes .

  My thanks to all of you guys who is working making free software for the
  ham community .

  73 de LA5VNA Steinar

  Rick W wrote:
   Is it just possible that there is not that much interest in the mode? I 
   did download the software yesterday and tried setting it up but I was 
   not able to get the RTS line keying the rig. I was able to listen to the 
   tones and it does appear to be DTMF tones.
  
   The question is ... why have yet another mode, unless it has some new 
   capabilities over what we already have? I think that some of us are 
   getting a bit concerned that the Tower of Babel is getting larger and 
   larger, and the result is not necessarily better digital communications, 
   but just more separate communications which reduces our interoperability.
  
   Would it not be better to use this tremendous energy and knowledge to 
   further the radio art and develop low cost technologies that work better 
   and faster and most importantly, adaptable to conditions?
  
   If some feel that I am being unfair, then could you please explain what 
   the advantages are of this mode over previous modes?
  
   73,
  
   Rick, KV9U
  
  
   F.R. Ashley wrote:
   
   *I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once 
   gotten a response or even heard an MFTTY station. Where is everyone 
   hiding?*
   *I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded 
   there with PSK and all. I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no 
   luck there either.*
   ** 
   *Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?*
   ** 
   *73 Buddy WB4M*
   
  
  
   
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-14 Thread W6IDS
To All,

I did download the new release and found a couple of things.

Pressing the Appointments button takes me to K3UK's page but there's no way to
post comments or log in.

If I instead go to my Favorites and select the page, I can log in and post 
comments, etc.

Also, I've been running in HALF setting.  Has anyone tried the other settings: 
Double or 1/4?
I tried Normal and found garbage on the screen with no success in cleaning it 
up, operator
error possibility not withstanding.

Is there a real incentive for operators to be able to change tone frequencies 
in the TX options?

Are we supposed to uninstall the previous release before unpacking a newer 
release?

After running the newest version now for a few minutes, I find now that I 
cannot get it to go to
maximized from a minimized condition.  The small replica of the program does 
appear when
moving the cursor to the minimized position on the lower bar.

I also downloaded the Magic Clip, I believe it is called, and am playing with 
that for a bit.

Is there some way to save the definitions created in the Macro Keys rather than 
have them
erased each time a newer version of the software is installed?  That is one 
reason why I
am looking at that Magic Clip thingie and not just to reduce my transmitting 
burden

I know this is a new mode, but has anyone determined just what the direction 
will be for
MFTTY?  I think it's a slick offering but.that's just me.  I'd be curious 
about other
thoughts.

Howard W6IIDS
Richmond, IN
  - Original Message - 
  From: Siegfried Jackstien 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Version .144


  new version of mftty
  now it is version 30.145
  see here
  http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/index.html
  download it and try it out
   SNIP

  greetz
  dg9bfc

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-14 Thread F.R. Ashley
I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once gotten a 
response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone hiding?
I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded there with 
PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no luck there either.

Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?

73 Buddy WB4M
  - Original Message - 
  From: W6IDS 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145


  To All,

  I did download the new release and found a couple of things.

  Pressing the Appointments button takes me to K3UK's page but there's no way to
  post comments or log in.

  If I instead go to my Favorites and select the page, I can log in and post 
comments, etc.

  Also, I've been running in HALF setting.  Has anyone tried the other 
settings: Double or 1/4?
  I tried Normal and found garbage on the screen with no success in cleaning it 
up, operator
  error possibility not withstanding.

  Is there a real incentive for operators to be able to change tone frequencies 
in the TX options?

  Are we supposed to uninstall the previous release before unpacking a newer 
release?

  After running the newest version now for a few minutes, I find now that I 
cannot get it to go to
  maximized from a minimized condition.  The small replica of the program does 
appear when
  moving the cursor to the minimized position on the lower bar.

  I also downloaded the Magic Clip, I believe it is called, and am playing with 
that for a bit.

  Is there some way to save the definitions created in the Macro Keys rather 
than have them
  erased each time a newer version of the software is installed?  That is one 
reason why I
  am looking at that Magic Clip thingie and not just to reduce my transmitting 
burden

  I know this is a new mode, but has anyone determined just what the 
direction will be for
  MFTTY?  I think it's a slick offering but.that's just me.  I'd be curious 
about other
  thoughts.

  Howard W6IIDS
  Richmond, IN
- Original Message - 
From: Siegfried Jackstien 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Version .144


new version of mftty
now it is version 30.145
see here
http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/index.html
download it and try it out
 SNIP

greetz
dg9bfc
   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-14 Thread Kevin Mitchell
HI,

I have just downloaded this program and installed it on my radio computer.
Problem, when I run it after installing I get the error message Run-time
error '372'
Failed to load control 'RichTestBox' from RICHTX32.OCX. Your version of
RICHTX32.OCX may be outdated. Make sure you are using the version of control
that was provided with your application.

I am running XP Pro and have down-loaded VB6 Runtime from the MFTTY website.
I have even downloaded the RICHTX32.OCX file and followed the instructions
to install on my computer, BUT this has not fixed the problem, still getting
the same error message.

Is there any reason why this might be happening? Any help would be grateful

Kevin, ZL1KFM.



On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:35 PM, F.R. Ashley gda...@clearwire.net wrote:

*I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once
 gotten a response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone hiding?
 *
 *I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded there
 with PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no luck there
 either.*
 **
 *Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?*
 **
 *73 Buddy WB4M*

  - Original Message -
 *From:* W6IDS w6...@verizon.net
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:23 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

 To All,

 I did download the new release and found a couple of things.

 Pressing the Appointments button takes me to K3UK's page but there's no way
 to
 post comments or log in.

 If I instead go to my Favorites and select the page, I can log in and
 post comments, etc.

 Also, I've been running in HALF setting.  Has anyone tried the other
 settings: Double or 1/4?
 I tried Normal and found garbage on the screen with no success in cleaning
 it up, operator
 error possibility not withstanding.

 Is there a real incentive for operators to be able to change tone
 frequencies in the TX options?

 Are we supposed to uninstall the previous release before unpacking a newer
 release?

 After running the newest version now for a few minutes, I find now that I
 cannot get it to go to
 maximized from a minimized condition.  The small replica of the program
 does appear when
 moving the cursor to the minimized position on the lower bar.

 I also downloaded the Magic Clip, I believe it is called, and am playing
 with that for a bit.

 Is there some way to save the definitions created in the Macro Keys rather
 than have them
 erased each time a newer version of the software is installed?  That is one
 reason why I
 am looking at that Magic Clip thingie and not just to reduce my
 transmitting burden

 I know this is a new mode, but has anyone determined just what the
 direction will be for
 MFTTY?  I think it's a slick offering but.that's just me.  I'd be
 curious about other
 thoughts.

 Howard W6IIDS
 Richmond, IN

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:31 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Version .144

 new version of mftty
 now it is version 30.145
 see here
 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/index.html
 download it and try it out
  SNIP

 greetz
 dg9bfc

 



Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145

2009-01-14 Thread W6IDS
Hey, Buddy.

Yeh, I know.  I've only heard ONE MFTTY station and that was on or near 3591.
It seems to me that perhaps 3591, give-or-take, would be the best if you wanted
to take a shot at my station.  I'll leave this thing on there (once I get it 
working 
right again) and perhaps we can contact each other and see how it works.

At least that would b e a beginning - you'd know that someone is keeping
watch out for your signal specifically.

You can also try this link out, log in, and when you're transmitting, post a
comment about it for others to see, including me.  We can coordinate there
as well -

http://www.obriensweb.com/sked

Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN.
  - Original Message - 
  From: F.R. Ashley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New MFTTY Version 30.145


  I've tried calling CQ endlessly on 20 and 80 meters but never once gotten a 
response or even heard an MFTTY station.  Where is everyone hiding?
  I've read where some use 14.068 on 20 meters but it is so crowded there with 
PSK and all.  I've also tried 3.591 on 80 meters but no luck there either.

  Can we all try to establish a meeting frequency for using this mode?

  73 Buddy WB4M

SNIP