[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY On Air Sensitivity
Hi Tony, i would like to learn more about HF path simulator. Is there any material on the web i can study? BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: All, Had another opportunity to test MFTTY on air today. As expected, sensitivity goes hand-in-hand with character speed and the slower 1/8 mode is probably close to what you might expect from say PSK31. Path simulations seem to indicate that the mode is probably more stable than PSK31 when HF path distortion becomes an issue. I'd appreciate any thoughts / experiences with MFTTY performance; slow vs. fast mode etc. Tony - K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY On Air Sensitivity
Norbert, I am taking the license of answering before Tony does, so look for the Pathsim docs (AE4JY). There is another german program, IONOS, which is another HF path simulator. I have just played with them, but actually done nothing serious enough. 73, Jose, CO2JA --- Norbert Pieper wrote: i would like to learn more about HF path simulator. Is there any material on the web i can study? BR Norbert VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y Educación Energética 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones ...Por una cultura energética sustentable www.ciercuba.com
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY On Air Sensitivity
Norbert, See the link below for the PathSim user guide / download page. http://www.moetronix.com/ae4jy/pathsim.htm Input wavs should have the same amplitude when comparing modes. I use a sound editor to normalize the the digital mode sound clips when testing. Let me know if you need any assistance. Tony - K2MO - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:40 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY On Air Sensitivity Hi Tony, i would like to learn more about HF path simulator. Is there any material on the web i can study? BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote: All, Had another opportunity to test MFTTY on air today. As expected, sensitivity goes hand-in-hand with character speed and the slower 1/8 mode is probably close to what you might expect from say PSK31. Path simulations seem to indicate that the mode is probably more stable than PSK31 when HF path distortion becomes an issue. I'd appreciate any thoughts / experiences with MFTTY performance; slow vs. fast mode etc. Tony - K2MO
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
I understand, Norbert, now. Hthe information I read leads me to believe (and it's stated as such) that the greater frequency of Pilot tones provides an aid to tuning. IMHO, it seems to me that the pause time that you stated is a bit too long to provide benefit. I don't know where I'd pause for an equivalent of 20 characters. Right now, I am seeing a Pilot tone only at the beginning of the CQ in which I included my callsign, City/State and Locator. I think it could be inserted by the operator at the end of each line of CQ for tuning. I also noticed that without looking at the screen, I instantly recognized the signal by WB4MWD by virtue of the inclusion of the Pilot tones. First time I've been able to identify an exotic mode by ear per se, so the tones have an additional value. I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:55 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out Hello Howard and all, In fact the V3.0143 !!DOES!!- send out pilot tone by SEND button or Send By Enter Key The thing is that the pilot is sent out ONLY if there was a reasonable pause between the transmissions. I did set the pause time to a value that is equivalent to the transmission time of 4 Words (20 characters) This was done to avoid an un-needed flood of bothering pilots. My question to the group is: In Pratice: Is that pause time and the effective number of pilots sufficent or is there higher or lower occurrence of pilots needed?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN Howard, for manual Pilot insertion, just configure a macro as only Pilot and click that to insert a Pilot whenever you want. What I think FMTTY needs more than anything is the ability to double-click on a callsign and use it for the macros, such as CALL (for the other station's callsign). I cannot seem to get the TxMacro boxes to work. When I configure a macro with Box1 and put a callsign in for Box 1, I still get Box1 transmitting instead of the callsign. The macros also need to be linked to function keys for ease of keyboarding use. There really is not enough time to fill in the TxMacro box for every QSO. You have to capture a callsign as quickly as possible in order to keep from losing a contact. A double-click has proven to be the fastest way to do that. For example, the significant default DigiPan macros which many are familiar with are: F2 CQ F3 Call 3 (transmit, 3x3, 3x3, 3x3, receive) F4 Call (transmit, 1x1) F5 BTU (1x1, receive) F6 Signoff (73, 1x1, SK, receive) This way, the new user only has to press F2 to call CQ, F3 to answer a CQ, and then just alternate between F4 and F5 for the QSO. When finished, he just goes to the next function key in line to signoff. Of course preferences of others may vary! 73, Skip KH6TY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
the macro-name for box1 is Name ... for box2 it is Call that should solve the problem greetz dg9bfc - Original Message - From: kh6ty To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN Howard, for manual Pilot insertion, just configure a macro as only Pilot and click that to insert a Pilot whenever you want. What I think FMTTY needs more than anything is the ability to double-click on a callsign and use it for the macros, such as CALL (for the other station's callsign). I cannot seem to get the TxMacro boxes to work. When I configure a macro with Box1 and put a callsign in for Box 1, I still get Box1 transmitting instead of the callsign. The macros also need to be linked to function keys for ease of keyboarding use. There really is not enough time to fill in the TxMacro box for every QSO. You have to capture a callsign as quickly as possible in order to keep from losing a contact. A double-click has proven to be the fastest way to do that. For example, the significant default DigiPan macros which many are familiar with are: F2 CQ F3 Call 3 (transmit, 3x3, 3x3, 3x3, receive) F4 Call (transmit, 1x1) F5 BTU (1x1, receive) F6 Signoff (73, 1x1, SK, receive) This way, the new user only has to press F2 to call CQ, F3 to answer a CQ, and then just alternate between F4 and F5 for the QSO. When finished, he just goes to the next function key in line to signoff. Of course preferences of others may vary! 73, Skip KH6TY
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
Hey, Skip! Long time no. Yes, I think you're touching on some things that could go well toward enhancing the operation. I, too, am having a little difficulty with the TX Macro box as well. However, I suspect that if we keep the cards 'n letters coming in, there'll be some attention given to the ideas for sure. HI had not thought about using a marco for the Pilot thingie. DUH! I've been trying it by manually typing it in. I wasn't thinking macro in that instance. Trying to capture the callsign, QTH, etc does take time and causes dead time too, not to mention creating a cumbersome process. But, then again, this is new as we are awareand interesting. So far, I'm one up on the receiver side. Still working to get my first transmit check out moment. Regards, Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: kh6ty kh...@comcast.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN Howard, for manual Pilot insertion, just configure a macro as only Pilot and click that to insert a Pilot whenever you want. What I think FMTTY needs more than anything is the ability to double-click on a callsign and use it for the macros, such as CALL (for the other station's callsign). I cannot seem to get the TxMacro boxes to work. When I configure a macro with Box1 and put a callsign in for Box 1, I still get Box1 transmitting instead of the callsign. The macros also need to be linked to function keys for ease of keyboarding use. There really is not enough time to fill in the TxMacro box for every QSO. You have to capture a callsign as quickly as possible in order to keep from losing a contact. A double-click has proven to be the fastest way to do that. For example, the significant default DigiPan macros which many are familiar with are: F2 CQ F3 Call 3 (transmit, 3x3, 3x3, 3x3, receive) F4 Call (transmit, 1x1) F5 BTU (1x1, receive) F6 Signoff (73, 1x1, SK, receive) This way, the new user only has to press F2 to call CQ, F3 to answer a CQ, and then just alternate between F4 and F5 for the QSO. When finished, he just goes to the next function key in line to signoff. Of course preferences of others may vary! 73, Skip KH6TY Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
Thanks Seigfried! That works now. I could not find where that was in the Help. Now, if Norbert can only code a double-click to enter the call in Box2, that would be great. I know that it is possible under VB6 as I always code it that way in my own VB PSK31 programs. For example, I code according to the following double-click rules (double-clicking in Windows usually automatically selects a word, as I remember.): 1. If the word contains three consecutive numbers, it goes into the RST field. 2. If the word contains one or two numbers, it goes into the callsign field. 3. If the word has no numbers, it goes into the operator name field. 4. For QTH, I select all the words and use a right-click context menu to enter the text into the QTH field. I do not attempt to distinguish between something like PSK31 and a callsign, but rely on the human brain to make the distinction by where the operator makes the double-click selection. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out the macro-name for box1 is Name ... for box2 it is Call that should solve the problem greetz dg9bfc - Original Message - From: kh6ty To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN Howard, for manual Pilot insertion, just configure a macro as only Pilot and click that to insert a Pilot whenever you want. What I think FMTTY needs more than anything is the ability to double-click on a callsign and use it for the macros, such as CALL (for the other station's callsign). I cannot seem to get the TxMacro boxes to work. When I configure a macro with Box1 and put a callsign in for Box 1, I still get Box1 transmitting instead of the callsign. The macros also need to be linked to function keys for ease of keyboarding use. There really is not enough time to fill in the TxMacro box for every QSO. You have to capture a callsign as quickly as possible in order to keep from losing a contact. A double-click has proven to be the fastest way to do that. For example, the significant default DigiPan macros which many are familiar with are: F2 CQ F3 Call 3 (transmit, 3x3, 3x3, 3x3, receive) F4 Call (transmit, 1x1) F5 BTU (1x1, receive) F6 Signoff (73, 1x1, SK, receive) This way, the new user only has to press F2 to call CQ, F3 to answer a CQ, and then just alternate between F4 and F5 for the QSO. When finished, he just goes to the next function key in line to signoff. Of course preferences of others may vary! 73, Skip KH6TY Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1785 - Release Date: 11/13/2008 9:12 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out
that was easy to find out how this thing works just right click on the button makro ther you find a predefined text that contains the maros use by the programm glad that i could help dg9bfc siegfried or in short form ... sigi - Original Message - From: kh6ty To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: d...@polar-electric.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out Thanks Seigfried! That works now. I could not find where that was in the Help. Now, if Norbert can only code a double-click to enter the call in Box2, that would be great. I know that it is possible under VB6 as I always code it that way in my own VB PSK31 programs. For example, I code according to the following double-click rules (double-clicking in Windows usually automatically selects a word, as I remember.): 1. If the word contains three consecutive numbers, it goes into the RST field. 2. If the word contains one or two numbers, it goes into the callsign field. 3. If the word has no numbers, it goes into the operator name field. 4. For QTH, I select all the words and use a right-click context menu to enter the text into the QTH field. I do not attempt to distinguish between something like PSK31 and a callsign, but rely on the human brain to make the distinction by where the operator makes the double-click selection. 73, Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out the macro-name for box1 is Name ... for box2 it is Call that should solve the problem greetz dg9bfc - Original Message - From: kh6ty To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.143 is out I think we just need to adopt a reasonable protocol for the tone use and also allow for manual insertion as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN Howard, for manual Pilot insertion, just configure a macro as only Pilot and click that to insert a Pilot whenever you want. What I think FMTTY needs more than anything is the ability to double-click on a callsign and use it for the macros, such as CALL (for the other station's callsign). I cannot seem to get the TxMacro boxes to work. When I configure a macro with Box1 and put a callsign in for Box 1, I still get Box1 transmitting instead of the callsign. The macros also need to be linked to function keys for ease of keyboarding use. There really is not enough time to fill in the TxMacro box for every QSO. You have to capture a callsign as quickly as possible in order to keep from losing a contact. A double-click has proven to be the fastest way to do that. For example, the significant default DigiPan macros which many are familiar with are: F2 CQ F3 Call 3 (transmit, 3x3, 3x3, 3x3, receive) F4 Call (transmit, 1x1) F5 BTU (1x1, receive) F6 Signoff (73, 1x1, SK, receive) This way, the new user only has to press F2 to call CQ, F3 to answer a CQ, and then just alternate between F4 and F5 for the QSO. When finished, he just goes to the next function key in line to signoff. Of course preferences of others may vary! 73, Skip KH6TY Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1785 - Release Date: 11/13/2008 9:12 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information
It seems to be an interesting piece of software, Norbert. I was susrprised at how I was able to copy my first CQ from WB4MWD while that station was basically covered by a PACTOR MBO. I don't know if that was a fluke or not but will be curious to see if it can be replicated in the future. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information Hi Steinar, no problem just click options and enter new Tx Center Frequency ( in the upper right corner ) click apply. MFTT can handle any Tx Frequency from near zero up to near half of TX sample rate of soundcard. BR Norbert SNIP SNIP
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information
Hi Steinar, no problem just click options and enter new Tx Center Frequency ( in the upper right corner ) click apply. MFTT can handle any Tx Frequency from near zero up to near half of TX sample rate of soundcard. BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Hi Norbert Thanks for giving us this very interesting and easy to use software. I have question; what about using 1500Hz as a default infrequency in instead of 1000Hz ? All my transceivers (icom's) have their sweet point's at 1500Hz. i USB/LSB 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norbert Pieper wrote: There is an update of MFTTY Help file available now. In the chapter General i have added a page named Tuning into MFTTY Station Feel free to download and study http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/MFTTHelp.chm Problems with opening the Help file? Then read this Instructions from Microsoft http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/HelpInstructions.html 73 55 de Norbert -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1886 - Release Date: 10.01.2009 18:01
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information
Great ! Thanks again :) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norbert Pieper wrote: Hi Steinar, no problem just click options and enter new Tx Center Frequency ( in the upper right corner ) click apply. MFTT can handle any Tx Frequency from near zero up to near half of TX sample rate of soundcard. BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Hi Norbert Thanks for giving us this very interesting and easy to use software. I have question; what about using 1500Hz as a default infrequency in instead of 1000Hz ? All my transceivers (icom's) have their sweet point's at 1500Hz. i USB/LSB 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norbert Pieper wrote: There is an update of MFTTY Help file available now. In the chapter General i have added a page named Tuning into MFTTY Station Feel free to download and study http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/MFTTHelp.chm Problems with opening the Help file? Then read this Instructions from Microsoft http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/HelpInstructions.html 73 55 de Norbert -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1886 - Release Date: 10.01.2009 18:01 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1886 - Release Date: 10.01.2009 18:01
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information
Heard HB9TLK, LA5VNA and F1ABL with half speed on 14068 kHz. 73 de Matti OH2ZT
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m
dear howard the pilot is a macro that sends a pilot-tone and the beginning of your transmitted text it is explained on the homepage how this work but i will try to explain it the other sees the pilottone on his waterfall he makes a rectangle with his mousecursor around this line the programm now is tunet for this frequency and starts decoding text so normally you only need to send the pilottone at the first transmission that is the reason why the pilottone is in the cq-button you can send it also during the other macros but you don´t need to do for the macros name qth etc ... just click on txtmacro near the upper left edge of the waterfall a new window opens where you can put in the name qth etc of the other station now when you click on the button macro under the waterfall a text will be send with the name qth etc of the other station a counter is counted upwards so in a contest it is the qso number . hope all is understood well if you want to play with the soft off-air just put your pc mic in front of your pc speaker now you can send text to yourself ... yes the soft can sent and receice fullduplex now when you have some practise with the soft it is time to bring it on the air there are several people trying out the soft in this group and so the chance to find somebody is not to bad .. if you have comments about the soft or maybe a whish for a function just drop a mail to norbert or ask here in the group if this whish is possible to ad in the programm hope i could help best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: W6IDS To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m Yessir, the new version works now. I've found I cannot PTT through the COM1 - it looks like I'll be using the VOX option instead (which does work). I am still going through this material and trying to get a handle on my learning curve. I am not quite sure what to do next other than look for a MFTTY signal to copy. While I can key the transmitter VOX and can hear my tones, I don't know if my transmit status is fully operational. I see that I do not have access to audio controls like I would have with Windows XP. So, I manually turned up my mike gain to get reasonable RF output. It's not quite clear to me just how I would get city, name, etc into the program for use in a MACRO like you have set up in the program. Where does the word PILOT fit into all of this, that I've seen in the CQ button, etc? Still plugging along here... thanks for the help thus far! Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m Hello Howard, The issue is solved: Cause of Problem: the file c:\Window\system32\dx8vb.dll is not registered. Solution: Download and install new version of MFTT it will fix the Problem automatically. SNIP SNIP
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information
Thier is gruop on K3UK SKED website http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ we'er testing and talking about the program. MFTTY and looking for others on MFTTY. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Matti Niemelä mattis.niem...@kolumbus.fi wrote: From: Matti Niemelä mattis.niem...@kolumbus.fi Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Tuning information To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 8:04 AM Heard HB9TLK, LA5VNA and F1ABL with half speed on 14068 kHz. 73 de Matti OH2ZT
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m
Many thanks, Seigfried. I'll digest this and when I get home from work, I'll begin to seriously play with the program. I do recall the info regarding the pilot, however, after successfully finding myself with the program installed now, I did not make the connection mentally at first since it's new for me. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Siegfried Jackstien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m dear howard the pilot is a macro that sends a pilot-tone and the beginning of your transmitted text it is explained on the homepage how this work but i will try to explain it the other sees the pilottone on his waterfall SNIP SNIP
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m
dear russel look on the skedpage http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ digital there you will find others to test with greetz sigi - Original Message - From: W6IDS To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m Many thanks, Seigfried. I'll digest this and when I get home from work, I'll begin to seriously play with the program. I do recall the info regarding the pilot, however, after successfully finding myself with the program installed now, I did not make the connection mentally at first since it's new for me. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Siegfried Jackstien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m dear howard the pilot is a macro that sends a pilot-tone and the beginning of your transmitted text it is explained on the homepage how this work but i will try to explain it the other sees the pilottone on his waterfall SNIP SNIP
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m
Hello Howard, The issue is solved: Cause of Problem: the file c:\Window\system32\dx8vb.dll is not registered. Solution: Download and install new version of MFTT it will fix the Problem automatically. BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, W6IDS w6...@... wrote: Forgot to mention, if it matters, that I'm running VISTA. Howard W6IDS - Original Message - From: W6IDS w6...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] MFTTY on 80m Hey, Steinar! Tried to bring up MFTTY but encountered a problem. I get this flag: Run Time Error '429': ActiveX component can't create object. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@... To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: [digitalradio] MFTTY on 80m Hi all, I am monitoring dial 3588 USB (1000Hz) now Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.140 is out
Attention V3.0.140 is compatible with V3.0.139 !!! BR Norbert
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY 3.0.140 is out
ok, then I must have done something wrong. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Norbert Pieper wrote: Attention V3.0.140 is compatible with V3.0.139 !!! BR Norbert No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1885 - Release Date: 09.01.2009 19:59
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m
Yessir, the new version works now. I've found I cannot PTT through the COM1 - it looks like I'll be using the VOX option instead (which does work). I am still going through this material and trying to get a handle on my learning curve. I am not quite sure what to do next other than look for a MFTTY signal to copy. While I can key the transmitter VOX and can hear my tones, I don't know if my transmit status is fully operational. I see that I do not have access to audio controls like I would have with Windows XP. So, I manually turned up my mike gain to get reasonable RF output. It's not quite clear to me just how I would get city, name, etc into the program for use in a MACRO like you have set up in the program. Where does the word PILOT fit into all of this, that I've seen in the CQ button, etc? Still plugging along here... thanks for the help thus far! Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 80m Hello Howard, The issue is solved: Cause of Problem: the file c:\Window\system32\dx8vb.dll is not registered. Solution: Download and install new version of MFTT it will fix the Problem automatically. SNIP SNIP
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Hi Siegfried We are now testing the latest version 3.0.139 on 3591 usb I have some wishes ; is it possible for Norbert to have the version number printed on the web side ? Now you have to download the software and look at the about to see if you have the latest one. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Siegfried Jackstien wrote: which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Last night about four of us here in the U.S. tried to get .139 to work and we just was not able to, we get togeather over on the K3UK 30M digital Skid site to talk about it . Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 2:55 PM Hi Siegfried We are now testing the latest version 3.0.139 on 3591 usb I have some wishes ; is it possible for Norbert to have the version number printed on the web side ? Now you have to download the software and look at the about to see if you have the latest one. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Siegfried Jackstien wrote: which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Listening 3.591 USB for MFTTY now. WB4M Budyd - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi Siegfried We are now testing the latest version 3.0.139 on 3591 usb I have some wishes ; is it possible for Norbert to have the version number printed on the web side ? Now you have to download the software and look at the about to see if you have the latest one. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Siegfried Jackstien wrote: which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
dear steinar i dropped him a mail about this greetz dg9bfc sigi
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
The older version was 3.0.125 the newer one is 3.0.131 if you look at the about tab at the top. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:16 PM which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. - - - - - - -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Ups.. I thought I had the newest one but it was 3.0.123 . I will upgrade to 3.0.131 . LA5VNA Steinar Russell Blair wrote: The older version was 3.0.125 the newer one is 3.0.131 if you look at the about tab at the top. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:16 PM which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. - - - - - - -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1879 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 17:16
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
mine says 3.0.126 . where did you get the 3.0.131 version - Original Message - From: Russell Blair To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m The older version was 3.0.125 the newer one is 3.0.131 if you look at the about tab at the top. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:16 PM which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Here http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/index.html 73 LA5VNA Steinar Siegfried Jackstien wrote: mine says 3.0.126 . where did you get the 3.0.131 version - Original Message - From: Russell Blair To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m The older version was 3.0.125 the newer one is 3.0.131 if you look at the about tab at the top. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:16 PM which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
I see you did get the newest version of the last e-mail. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:50 AM mine says 3.0.126 . where did you get the 3.0.131 version - Original Message - From: Russell Blair To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m The older version was 3.0.125 the newer one is 3.0.131 if you look at the about tab at the top. Russell = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien @freenet. de wrote: From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien @freenet. de Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:16 PM which version do you have?? date of the file?? norbert dropped me a mail where he said there was a mistake with center frequence of the filter he corrected the mistake and uploaded the new one to his homepage simply download it again and delete the older one version number is still 3.0 ... so not easy to see if you have the newest version do you guys know how the thing with the pilot tone works??? ... norbert explained it to me in a mail the pilot tone switches the receiving station to the right mode/speed with lower speed the performance is much better with lower signal if you see a pilottone just make a rectangle with your mousecursor round the tone hold the mousebutton pressed make your rectangle the soft looks how long the rectangle is and on whitch frequence the pilottone is decoding should start very easy after that hope i could help a bit good luck with the new mode best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. - - - - - - -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 - - - - - - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x r...@... wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G ..
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x r...@... wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
OK Steinar: will try 7035. de Rich/N2Jr --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: hummm , it is possible to try a freq around 7035 ? There is there is heavy ssb qrm on 7068 in Europa 73 de LA5VNA Steinar rich3x wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Great ! I will qsy 7035 usb dial 73 de LA5VNA Steinar rich3x wrote: OK Steinar: will try 7035. de Rich/N2Jr --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: hummm , it is possible to try a freq around 7035 ? There is there is heavy ssb qrm on 7068 in Europa 73 de LA5VNA Steinar rich3x wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
ups, heavy psk31 qrm on 7035 but 7039 seems clean la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: Great ! I will qsy 7035 usb dial 73 de LA5VNA Steinar rich3x wrote: OK Steinar: will try 7035. de Rich/N2Jr --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: hummm , it is possible to try a freq around 7035 ? There is there is heavy ssb qrm on 7068 in Europa 73 de LA5VNA Steinar rich3x wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Hi all, I had my first qso in MFTTY now with OH7JJT on 3596 usb + 1000Hz. My first impression is positive. The software is very easy and intuitive to use. The mode works OK, but it is not very fond of QRM ;) la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: OK qsy 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
Graham I have a beacon on 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz . Do you see me ? la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
Re: [digitalradio] Re: MFTTY on 40m
qrt now 73 de la5vna Steinar Aanesland wrote: Graham I have a beacon on 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz . Do you see me ? la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: Try 3.583 Khz dial usb + 1000 hz ? 596 has a spur from a local mw tx - G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: Ok, I will qsy 3596 usb + 1000Hz (3596 usb dial) and calling CQ la5vna Steinar Graham wrote: No signal showing in past hour ... too close for 7 in the night .. would be better on 80 or 160 ??? 160 may be better ?? G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland saanes@ wrote: Hi Graham, I am calling CQ on 7068 USB +1000Hz . Do you see me ? LA5VNA Steinar Graham wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x rh3x@ wrote: Will qsx send cq's on 7068 usb +1000Hz 1/2 speed during day 6 Jan. Does this mode work well/attracted any significant attention? de Rich/N2JR Sounds a little like the theam from laural and hardy ! .. just noticed, it 'has' to be the top application or it seems to stall ? looking at 7068 carrier freq ? or do you mean dial frequency ? just noise G .. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 06.01.2009 07:56
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY: Run-time Error 429
Hi Rich, that looks very much like the dx8vb.dll in your system directory is not registered in the registry. do this: - find the dx8vb.dll on your PC and remember the folder (path) name - click Start -run - type in box regsvr32 C:\WINDOWS\system32\dx8vb.dll !!!that is an example!!! you have to enter your individual correct folder name BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rich3x r...@... wrote: ActiveX component can't create object program won't load/run -- vb6 installed -- solution? de Rich/N2JR
[digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hello Siggi and Group, i'm very glad to see that you were able to use MFTTy with some success. So far i have learned that tune finder is needed. And a Hlepfile in a more readable format? I will add a graphical, FFT-Based, tune finder This might take a week or two. I will let you know when done. Please send me your additional suggestions, i will collect and considder them as my little available time allows... step by step. 73 55 de Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@... wrote: dear norbert thanks for the second edition of your software i will try it out on my system and can send you my comments about best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert
[digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hi Norbert. I do not want to discourage you from your experiments, but I would like to point out, that there are already two tone chat modes designed for amateur use on HF, namely Throb and ThrobX. DTMF as well as ThrobX encode each single character into two simultaneous tones. Throb has a single exception, idle character is encoded as single tone. DTMF does not shape amplitude, Throb/ThrobX does. DTMF is much wider than Throb or ThrobX. I believe DTMF was designed for cheap inexact tone decoders and not fully harmonic encoders and transmission paths, the tones are picked so their third intermix product is not exactly aligned with other DTMF tones. If used on HF, one does not want the IMD product fall outside of the useful signal. On telephone line it does not matter and some nonlinearity may be even useful to boost SNR. On HF I don't believe big tone spacing will bring much benefit when compared with ThrobX. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@... wrote: Hello Siggi and Group, i'm very glad to see that you were able to use MFTTy with some success. So far i have learned that tune finder is needed. And a Hlepfile in a more readable format? I will add a graphical, FFT-Based, tune finder This might take a week or two. I will let you know when done. Please send me your additional suggestions, i will collect and considder them as my little available time allows... step by step. 73 55 de Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien@ wrote: dear norbert thanks for the second edition of your software i will try it out on my system and can send you my comments about best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert
[digitalradio] Re: MFTTY Download
Hi Lew, that looks very much like the dx8vb.dll in your system directory is not registered in the registry. do this: - find the dx8vb.dll on your PC and remember the folder (path) name - click Start run - type in box regsvr32 C:\WINDOWS\system32\dx8vb.dll !!!that is an example!!! you have to enter your individual correct folder name BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Lew Cason lew_j...@... wrote: Thank you for the information I installed it on a Panasonic laptop with Win 98 and received a error RUN-TIME ERROR 429 ACTIVEX COMPOMENT CAN'T CREAT OBLECT Lew N4HRA - Original Message - From: Toby Burnett To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] MFTTY Download http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ That is where I got it from. Good luck ---Original Message--- From: n4hra Date: 14/12/2008 12:43:48 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] MFTTY Download Were do I fine the MFTTY site to download Lew
[digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hi Voitech, many thanks for the hint! I guess i have to learn more about Throb and ThrobX Particular about the single exception an why it was implemented. BR Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Vojtech Bubnik bubn...@... wrote: Hi Norbert. I do not want to discourage you from your experiments, but I would like to point out, that there are already two tone chat modes designed for amateur use on HF, namely Throb and ThrobX. DTMF as well as ThrobX encode each single character into two simultaneous tones. Throb has a single exception, idle character is encoded as single tone. DTMF does not shape amplitude, Throb/ThrobX does. DTMF is much wider than Throb or ThrobX. I believe DTMF was designed for cheap inexact tone decoders and not fully harmonic encoders and transmission paths, the tones are picked so their third intermix product is not exactly aligned with other DTMF tones. If used on HF, one does not want the IMD product fall outside of the useful signal. On telephone line it does not matter and some nonlinearity may be even useful to boost SNR. On HF I don't believe big tone spacing will bring much benefit when compared with ThrobX. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: mftty
I admit that I am in the extreme minority of hams who are interested in group connectivity under the worst possible conditions, such as needed for public service, emergency, and even casual use. Any advance in higher speed/robust modes is welcome since there is always the possibility that they could eventually be a component in new technology. One of the concerns that I have is the proliferation of new modes that basically don't improve the state of the art. I don't know anything about mftty so after testing this mode, perhaps some of you can tell us about the advantages over the other digital modes? 73, Rick, KV9U
Re: [digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hello Votjech and all, Yes in Throb, it can be used one or two carriers when in Throbx it is always two. It's why Throbx is better that Throb for the reason that you have not to decide if it is one or two carriers (in Throb, you must evaluate through a threshold if the second carrier must be taken into account or not). However in Throbx, the choice to use the Space character as idle character is not the best in my opinion. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Vojtech Bubnik bubn...@seznam.cz To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hi Norbert. I do not want to discourage you from your experiments, but I would like to point out, that there are already two tone chat modes designed for amateur use on HF, namely Throb and ThrobX. DTMF as well as ThrobX encode each single character into two simultaneous tones. Throb has a single exception, idle character is encoded as single tone. DTMF does not shape amplitude, Throb/ThrobX does. DTMF is much wider than Throb or ThrobX. I believe DTMF was designed for cheap inexact tone decoders and not fully harmonic encoders and transmission paths, the tones are picked so their third intermix product is not exactly aligned with other DTMF tones. If used on HF, one does not want the IMD product fall outside of the useful signal. On telephone line it does not matter and some nonlinearity may be even useful to boost SNR. On HF I don't believe big tone spacing will bring much benefit when compared with ThrobX. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@... wrote: Hello Siggi and Group, i'm very glad to see that you were able to use MFTTy with some success. So far i have learned that tune finder is needed. And a Hlepfile in a more readable format? I will add a graphical, FFT-Based, tune finder This might take a week or two. I will let you know when done. Please send me your additional suggestions, i will collect and considder them as my little available time allows... step by step. 73 55 de Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien@ wrote: dear norbert thanks for the second edition of your software i will try it out on my system and can send you my comments about best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: mftty
you can use smaller spacing when using slower mode it should work very well for weak signal but you have to take a lot of time for a qso best 73´s de dg9bfc - Original Message - From: Vojtech Bubnik To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hi Norbert. I do not want to discourage you from your experiments, but I would like to point out, that there are already two tone chat modes designed for amateur use on HF, namely Throb and ThrobX. DTMF as well as ThrobX encode each single character into two simultaneous tones. Throb has a single exception, idle character is encoded as single tone. DTMF does not shape amplitude, Throb/ThrobX does. DTMF is much wider than Throb or ThrobX. I believe DTMF was designed for cheap inexact tone decoders and not fully harmonic encoders and transmission paths, the tones are picked so their third intermix product is not exactly aligned with other DTMF tones. If used on HF, one does not want the IMD product fall outside of the useful signal. On telephone line it does not matter and some nonlinearity may be even useful to boost SNR. On HF I don't believe big tone spacing will bring much benefit when compared with ThrobX. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@... wrote: Hello Siggi and Group, i'm very glad to see that you were able to use MFTTy with some success. So far i have learned that tune finder is needed. And a Hlepfile in a more readable format? I will add a graphical, FFT-Based, tune finder This might take a week or two. I will let you know when done. Please send me your additional suggestions, i will collect and considder them as my little available time allows... step by step. 73 55 de Norbert --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien@ wrote: dear norbert thanks for the second edition of your software i will try it out on my system and can send you my comments about best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert
[digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert
Re: [digitalradio] Re: mftty
Hello Norbert, After following your instructions for a Vista machine, when I start MFTT I get the Run-time error '429', ActiveX component can't create object. I don't know what to do about this. Thanks--- Bob C (WU9Q) - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper polar_elect...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: mftty
dear norbert thanks for the second edition of your software i will try it out on my system and can send you my comments about best 73´s de dg9bfc sigi - Original Message - From: Norbert Pieper To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: mftty Hello to the Group!! I'm new here and have some goddies... I freshly released an update of MF Tele Type V 2.0.088 http://www.polar-electric.com/MFTT/ And yes it is possible to run MFTT under Vista Instructions: Launch program directly from it's Program folder location for example c:\Program Files\HamRadioSoftware\MFTeleType\MFteletype.exe In the properties table one must set: XP Servicepack2 ( right click on the MFteletype.exe file to access the properties tab and select XP Service pack 2) this step need be done only one time. Execute as Administrator (each time one runs the program, it is necessary to right click the .exe file and select to run it as Administrator. ) Whish you lots of fun with MFTT! Any feedback is welcome. 73 55 de Norbert
