RE: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
I tried out my IC-T7H in the NOSC of a large ISP which was in the basement vault of an old bank. There was a really good repeater within4-6 blocks of the NOSC and I couln't hear it or anything else on 2 or 79 cm. When I stepped out to the vault and the vault door was closed, everything came back to normal. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LELAND ZANTESON Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:54 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity. Beware a heavily populated commercial radio site. If they have pagers or other digital hardware, the RF noise at HF can be terrible. I am a former owner of mountain top radio sites and have tried operating from my buildings and ended up moving at least 100 yds. from the building. Sites may not be all the same but on my sites you could not operate HF in the building. Lee W6FPO LELAND ZANTESON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
That is a great RF shield and very similar to what is built for just that purpose in many rf/hf facilities. We had similar RF shielded enclosures in our embassies to avoid rf escaping to the outerword, and such enclosures in base facilities where we did repair work on our equipment. If you could be assured that the vault door remained shut during the time of an EMP it would be a very good place to keep emergency equipment. Of course, putting any equipment in a vault, and hooking it up to the outside world thru coax and/or ac lines would invalidate any protection afforded by the steel walls/floor/ceiling. There are filters that would take care of the AC supply, and you could pass the incoming signals thru light pipes, but that still doesnt allow transmission, without the coax. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity. I tried out my IC-T7H in the NOSC of a large ISP which was in the basement vault of an old bank. There was a really good repeater within4-6 blocks of the NOSC and I couln't hear it or anything else on 2 or 79 cm. When I stepped out to the vault and the vault door was closed, everything came back to normal. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LELAND ZANTESON Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:54 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity. Beware a heavily populated commercial radio site. If they have pagers or other digital hardware, the RF noise at HF can be terrible. I am a former owner of mountain top radio sites and have tried operating from my buildings and ended up moving at least 100 yds. from the building. Sites may not be all the same but on my sites you could not operate HF in the building. Lee W6FPO LELAND ZANTESON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/693 - Release Date: 2/19/2007 5:01 PM
RE: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Beware a heavily populated commercial radio site. If they have pagers or other digital hardware, the RF noise at HF can be terrible. I am a former owner of mountain top radio sites and have tried operating from my buildings and ended up moving at least 100 yds. from the building. Sites may not be all the same but on my sites you could not operate HF in the building. Lee W6FPO LELAND ZANTESON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
FWIW I want to write a remote agent for my new digital mode software (still an internal beta), this agent will provide a non-compressed audio stream between the local program and remote PC. SKYPE will compress the audio I think which isn't such a good idea, but having said that I haven't tried SKYPE with digital modes. FWIW I think the TS-480SAT / TS-2000 are the best radios for remote station use. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Skype for the audio channel...
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Simon, Have you considered sending just the digimode output instead of the audi stream? I did that for RPSK and it worked well, using a very simple protocol over TCP. The subsampled spectrum output, phase, signal quality, and RX data is lower bandwidth than an uncompressed audio stream. One thing that Skype does well is negotiate connectivity for the audio. It can use peer-to-peer UDP or TCP or HTTP[ gateway CONNECT streaming, or as a last resort, a geographically-located Skype server that both parties can get too. There some quite complex stuff they do to get through firewalls without any help from the user. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:06 am, Simon Brown wrote: FWIW I want to write a remote agent for my new digital mode software (still an internal beta), this agent will provide a non-compressed audio stream between the local program and remote PC. SKYPE will compress the audio I think which isn't such a good idea, but having said that I haven't tried SKYPE with digital modes. FWIW I think the TS-480SAT / TS-2000 are the best radios for remote station use. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Skype for the audio channel... Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Subject: Radio Software Site is : http://www.w4mq.com for remote base via the internet... A friend just sent this to me... Gary n8gsj On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:27:29 -0800 Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon, Have you considered sending just the digimode output instead of the audi stream? I did that for RPSK and it worked well, using a very simple protocol over TCP. The subsampled spectrum output, phase, signal quality, and RX data is lower bandwidth than an uncompressed audio stream. One thing that Skype does well is negotiate connectivity for the audio. It can use peer-to-peer UDP or TCP or HTTP[ gateway CONNECT streaming, or as a last resort, a geographically-located Skype server that both parties can get too. There some quite complex stuff they do to get through firewalls without any help from the user. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:06 am, Simon Brown wrote: FWIW I want to write a remote agent for my new digital mode software (still an internal beta), this agent will provide a non-compressed audio stream between the local program and remote PC. SKYPE will compress the audio I think which isn't such a good idea, but having said that I haven't tried SKYPE with digital modes. FWIW I think the TS-480SAT / TS-2000 are the best radios for remote station use. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Skype for the audio channel... Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: o.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
The email address in that web page, for registeration, bounces. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity. Subject: Radio Software Site is : http://www.w4mq.com for remote base via the internet... A friend just sent this to me... Gary n8gsj On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:27:29 -0800 Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon, Have you considered sending just the digimode output instead of the audi stream? I did that for RPSK and it worked well, using a very simple protocol over TCP. The subsampled spectrum output, phase, signal quality, and RX data is lower bandwidth than an uncompressed audio stream. One thing that Skype does well is negotiate connectivity for the audio. It can use peer-to-peer UDP or TCP or HTTP[ gateway CONNECT streaming, or as a last resort, a geographically-located Skype server that both parties can get too. There some quite complex stuff they do to get through firewalls without any help from the user. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:06 am, Simon Brown wrote: FWIW I want to write a remote agent for my new digital mode software (still an internal beta), this agent will provide a non-compressed audio stream between the local program and remote PC. SKYPE will compress the audio I think which isn't such a good idea, but having said that I haven't tried SKYPE with digital modes. FWIW I think the TS-480SAT / TS-2000 are the best radios for remote station use. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try Skype for the audio channel... Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Our other groups: o.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 5:40 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: . One thing that Skype does well is negotiate connectivity for the audio. It can use peer-to-peer UDP or TCP or HTTP[ gateway CONNECT streaming, or as a last resort, a geographically-located Skype server that both parties can get too. There some quite complex stuff they do to get through firewalls without any help from the user. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU Getting through firewells is also the only thing Skype does well as far as ham radio is concerned. Skype is optimized for voice phone calls, period. IP Sound by SM5VXC has a variety of compression formats available. It sounds much better for CW and for noisy phone QSO's. Also, it has a lower bit rate than Skype. On the other hand, the slave end of the channel must be on a static IP, or a dynamic DNS DHCP IP. And you have to select a port that your ISP doesn't block. The default port, , happens to be blocked by Comcast. You can get the best of both worlds by using a free VPN tunnel with IP sound, as described in the IRB google group. People report that this is as good if not better than Skype for getting through firewalls. I have not needed to resort to this to get IP Sound to work. Rick N6RK
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Here is what I was thinking, to setup a radio at a remote location that could be fully controlled remotely. Ham Radio deluxe has the capability of controlling my ft897 with a serial interface. A USB sound card could be used to provide PSK and other digital modes. By using this remote usb interface http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb.jsp a remote serial interface and sound card could easily be setup. Is there a way to pass audio through one sound card to another sound card? James Wilson K6WRJ I have been exploring the possibility of remote base using a 440 HT without involving a PC or the Internet. It would require at least a MFJ-664 device. Using a MH-59 mic one has control of most important features, though one would need some means to confirm if a change was accepted. According to a recent thread there are no provisions for voice readout. Perhaps someone may build an outboard device. Using a PC or PDA would provide 2-way data flow and I suppose 440 could be used as the control freq. (440 is preferred because it penetrate metal structures better than 2M or 222.) I have also received some interesting suggestions and conflicting opinions as to the FCC regs. Anyone out there seen an entirely wireless remote base using 440 and a Yaesu FT-897 or FT-857? -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E ~~ Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com Personal: http://bibleseven.com ~~
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
This is the ultimate solution: http://radio.tentec.com/Amateur/Transceivers/TT588 - Original Message - From: kd4e To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity. Here is what I was thinking, to setup a radio at a remote location that could be fully controlled remotely. Ham Radio deluxe has the capability of controlling my ft897 with a serial interface. A USB sound card could be used to provide PSK and other digital modes. By using this remote usb interface http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb.jsp a remote serial interface and sound card could easily be setup. Is there a way to pass audio through one sound card to another sound card? James Wilson K6WRJ I have been exploring the possibility of remote base using a 440 HT without involving a PC or the Internet. It would require at least a MFJ-664 device. Using a MH-59 mic one has control of most important features, though one would need some means to confirm if a change was accepted. According to a recent thread there are no provisions for voice readout. Perhaps someone may build an outboard device. Using a PC or PDA would provide 2-way data flow and I suppose 440 could be used as the control freq. (440 is preferred because it penetrate metal structures better than 2M or 222.) I have also received some interesting suggestions and conflicting opinions as to the FCC regs. Anyone out there seen an entirely wireless remote base using 440 and a Yaesu FT-897 or FT-857? -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E ~~ Projects: http://ham-macguyver.bibleseven.com Personal: http://bibleseven.com ~~ *** Warning: This email may contain confidential or privileged information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please understand that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this email is strictly prohibited. ***
[digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Here is what I was thinking, to setup a radio at a remote location that could be fully controlled remotely. Ham Radio deluxe has the capability of controlling my ft897 with a serial interface. A USB sound card could be used to provide PSK and other digital modes. By using this remote usb interface http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb.jsp a remote serial interface and sound card could easily be setup. Is there a way to pass audio through one sound card to another sound card? In this situation it would be nice to talk SSB using the computer mic and speakers. Is there a way to speak into a mic and have the sound come out another sound card and then the reverse when recieving? Any help is greatly appreciated I am so excited about this concept. This would allow an apartment dweller like myself an inexpensive way to have a completely remote full HF rig. Best case scenario would be to purchase antenna and rack space on a mountain top. James Wilson K6WRJ *** Warning: This email may contain confidential or privileged information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please understand that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this email is strictly prohibited. ***
Re: [digitalradio] Remotely controlled radio with full connectivity.
Try Skype for the audio channel... Leigh/WA5ZNU On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 4:28 pm, James Wilson wrote: Is there a way to pass audio through one sound card to another sound card?
