Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-05 Thread Joe Serocki

440 is valuable band because of the propogation. I agree it's time to do
something new with 6, but I don't think there's much of a move to steal that
one back!

On the other hand, who knows, if we continue to not use our alloted space
there are indeed a lot better uses for it, I don't think anyone will
disagree with that logic!


On 6/3/07, expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I support efforts for new 100kHz bandwidth digital on 6 meters.
It's about time hams do something interesting and new with 6 meters.

In California and most of the western part of North America, 6 meters
is 4MHz of Wasteland. 99% of the time, it is largely a vacant band
of valuable VHF spectrum.

In San Francisco Bay Area of California, the 440MHz band is now in the
process of being taken away from hams.

I predict that 6 meters will be taken away as well, if we don't do
something useful with it.

Bonnie KQ6XA





Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-05 Thread bruce mallon
JOE As of now its a dead issue

BUT ... To Answer YOUR comment To allow a group to
come in ant TAKE 90% of a band for their own use is
INSANE.

Bonnie fails to say ... They already are allowed on
...

219 - 220 mhz but how many digital users using wide
band?
420 - 450 mhz same 

MOST are on microwave they use internet links  and the
only number I have found on a digital web site showed
less that 100 people with this wideband mode NATION
WIDE.

The top 2 mhz of 6 are like 2 meters FM users there
ARE nets and repeaters up there  no one has asked
them a thing 

EVEN IF they got this what is 100 users going to do to
save 3.7 mhz of a band? I work this band every time im
home right now there are thousands of people on SSB
world wide  and AM and digital users too.
SO they will be squeezed into the bottom 300 khz 100
khz of it is CW only ?

Remember it would have been the same for 2 meters too.

It seems dead and lets hope it stays that way.

Bruce




   

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-04 Thread Rhett Isley

Bonnie,

 Why and how is the 70cm band going away in the greater San  
Francisco area of California?


73.
Rhett KB4HG


On Jun 3, 2007, at 1:35 PM, expeditionradio wrote:


I support efforts for new 100kHz bandwidth digital on 6 meters.
It's about time hams do something interesting and new with 6 meters.

In California and most of the western part of North America, 6 meters
is 4MHz of Wasteland. 99% of the time, it is largely a vacant band
of valuable VHF spectrum.

In San Francisco Bay Area of California, the 440MHz band is now in the
process of being taken away from hams.

I predict that 6 meters will be taken away as well, if we don't do
something useful with it.

Bonnie KQ6XA







Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-04 Thread Dave Sparks
I'm wondering if this is related to the interference issue with the military 
PAVE PAWS radar system by a number of 70 cm. repeaters.

Dave
AF6AS

-Original Message-

From:  Rhett Isley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital
Date:  Mon Jun 4, 2007 9:22 am
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  Bonnie,
     Why and how is the 70cm band going away in the greater San Francisco area 
of California?

73.
Rhett KB4HG




Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-04 Thread Walt DuBose
bruce mallon wrote:
 
 
 Bonnie
 
 NO ONE IS AFTER 6 METERS

Seriously...you think not?  Open it to commercial/industrial/law enforcement 
under shat is it Part 90? and see how fast and how many Motorola sells 100 watt 
radios to businesses and law enforcement.

Perhaps not in NYC...but in the SW portion of the U.S., VHF low-band is prime 
frequencies where repeaters and many tall towers don't exist.

Walt/K5YFW

 
 100 khz wide is now legal abovee 219 so you have lots
 of room. You have never been on 6 or you have a junk
 station since this is the bottom of the cycle and 10
 is not open either so lets take it too lets not
 forget 15, 12 and CB on one on them either
 
 EVEN if you got 6 how would you save it with your 12
 stations ?  and kick off thousands of others to do
 it.
 
 GET REAL . 6 is not going anywhere.
 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-04 Thread bruce mallon
ITS NOT what is going on is the government has radar
on that band and HAMS are not supposed to interfere
with it. They have a problem with that radar. NOW if
70cm goes away it will go back to the GOVERNMENT.

SAME OLD LIES .. no one is out to get it and the
government has 1st dibs anyway.

If 70 cm is in danger and digital already is allowed
on 70 cm WHY is bonnie transmitting on that band and
asking others to join her ?

Here in TAMPABAY we have a few sparely used repeaters 
no one on SSB i have worked 2 by calling them up no TV
and few on digital on the 70 CM band. And McDill AFB
right in the center with lots of radars you would
think we would have a problem  . No rumors here
. none ..

I listen on 12 meters and in the last year I have
heard NO ONE ZERO maby we need to work on saving it
too .. Same on 10 less on 10 than 6.

Bruce
On 6 since 1966


Your comment.

--- Rhett Isley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bonnie,
 
 Why and how is the 70cm band going away in the
greater San Francisco area of California?
 
 73.
 Rhett KB4HG
 



 

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-04 Thread bruce mallon
I work for the Sheriff office radio shop and we got
RID of all low band in the 1970s 
Thoes who were here 35 years ago tell me SKIP KILLED
our officers radios and when the band was open they
resorted to using THE PHONE 
NO AGENCY IN CENTRAL FL is on low band anymore even
the highway patrol has moved off of it.

This place is  PODUNK USA  to most so our department
should be on CB but its not. I take care of 2100
radios on 460 MHz and the other shop does the same on
2,000 radios on 800 MHz trunking.

I have not seen anything in any APSO books showing a
intrest in going back to Low band.

With 54-216 mhz being up for sale there will bew lots
of space for use in the south west far more that 4
megs we have now.

Bruce


--- Walt DuBose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bruce mallon wrote:
  
  
  Bonnie
  
  NO ONE IS AFTER 6 METERS
 
 Seriously...you think not?  Open it to
 commercial/industrial/law enforcement 
 under shat is it Part 90? and see how fast and how
 many Motorola sells 100 watt 
 radios to businesses and law enforcement.
 
 Perhaps not in NYC...but in the SW portion of the
 U.S., VHF low-band is prime 
 frequencies where repeaters and many tall towers
 don't exist.
 
 Walt/K5YFW
 
  
  100 khz wide is now legal abovee 219 so you have
 lots
  of room. You have never been on 6 or you have a
 junk
  station since this is the bottom of the cycle and
 10
  is not open either so lets take it too lets
 not
  forget 15, 12 and CB on one on them either
  
  EVEN if you got 6 how would you save it with your
 12
  stations ?  and kick off thousands of others
 to do
  it.
  
  GET REAL . 6 is not going anywhere.
  
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: 6 meters digital

2007-06-03 Thread bruce mallon
Bonnie

NO ONE IS AFTER 6 METERS

100 khz wide is now legal abovee 219 so you have lots
of room. You have never been on 6 or you have a junk
station since this is the bottom of the cycle and 10
is not open either so lets take it too lets not
forget 15, 12 and CB on one on them either

EVEN if you got 6 how would you save it with your 12
stations ?  and kick off thousands of others to do
it.

GET REAL . 6 is not going anywhere.




  

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