Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-19 Thread Skip Taylor
Just wanted to say hello to another Skip. Mine is a nickname from birth, how
about you?  Private email is ok from here out if you wish.
I started reading this thread because it had my name in it. (grin)

There's also a USB sound adapter at http://tr.im/p5Nl Looks very similar to
the one the other Skip mentioned, except the one I'm point to is $9.95 with
shipping, but does NOT include the CD nor the box. I have no affiliation
with this company, but have reliably purchased items from them quite a few
times. All their prices include shipping.

73, Skip KI6GKS

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:08 AM, kh6ty kh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Tim, have you tried the USB sound adapter? The low end noise that the
 standard SignaLink has is not there and you can just use VOX for PTT
 switching. It is also an external soundcard. For only $7.50, you can
 hardly go wrong!

 If you can handle tiny chips, there is also a PTT output that you can
 bring to the outside.

 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-280Bcat=SND

 73, Skip KH6TY



Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-18 Thread Tim N9PUZ
Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] wrote:
 
 Tim N9PUZ skrev:
 How old are these units that have been modified to work properly?

 Tim, N9PUZ
   
 Less than a year, the newest was bought just a month ago. Unfortunately 
 Tigertronics don't mark their products with Serial Numbers or production 
 date, so you have no way of knowing for sure. The newest units have had 
 the 33uF substitution, but nothing else.
 
 -- 
 Vy 73 de OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter

Thank you Peter. I've been looking at external sound cards to use with 
a laptop for portable work. The internal unit in my laptop doesn't 
work all that well and my thinking was if I use a good quality 
external unit it can move to a new laptop when I upgrade some day.

Tim, N9PUZ



Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-18 Thread kh6ty
Tim, have you tried the USB sound adapter? The low end noise that the 
standard SignaLink has is not there and you can just use VOX for PTT 
switching. It is also an external soundcard. For only $7.50, you can 
hardly go wrong!

If you can handle tiny chips, there is also a PTT output that you can 
bring to the outside.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-280Bcat=SND

73, Skip KH6TY




 Thank you Peter. I've been looking at external sound cards to use with
 a laptop for portable work. The internal unit in my laptop doesn't
 work all that well and my thinking was if I use a good quality
 external unit it can move to a new laptop when I upgrade some day.

 Tim, N9PUZ

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-- 
*Skip KH6TY*
http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net


Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-18 Thread Tim N9PUZ
Tiny circuit work isn't a problem. Do you have a link to that 
modification?

It's sort of amazing that $7.50 will get a working external sound card 
but obviously you've tried this and found it to work.

I actually had a couple of other items to order from them as well. 
Spreads out the shipping.

Tim, N9PUZ

kh6ty wrote:
 Tim, have you tried the USB sound adapter? The low end noise that the 
 standard SignaLink has is not there and you can just use VOX for PTT 
 switching. It is also an external soundcard. For only $7.50, you can 
 hardly go wrong!
 
 If you can handle tiny chips, there is also a PTT output that you can 
 bring to the outside.
 
 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-280Bcat=SND
 
 73, Skip KH6TY
 
 

 Thank you Peter. I've been looking at external sound cards to use with
 a laptop for portable work. The internal unit in my laptop doesn't
 work all that well and my thinking was if I use a good quality
 external unit it can move to a new laptop when I upgrade some day.

 Tim, N9PUZ



Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-18 Thread kh6ty
Try this link, Tim. I ordered five of the adapters, all had the C-Media 
chip, and all worked very well. Don't know if Geeks.com can guarantee 
shipping only the C-Media version, but maybe you can ask them. The audio 
output is a little less than with some soundcards, but that is usually 
not a problem - just readjust the level controls under Windows. Also use 
this adapter under Linux for NBEMS.

The PTT output works, but it is hard for me to work with such tiny 
parts, so I just use VOX for PTT switching - no need to even open it up.

Be careful about putting too much strain on the USB adapter when it is 
plugged into the USB port as you can break the connection to the circuit 
board if it bends too far.

http://images.qrvc.com/usbfob.pdf

Good luck!

73, Skip KH6TY
NBEMS Development Team


Tim N9PUZ wrote:


 Tiny circuit work isn't a problem. Do you have a link to that
 modification?

 It's sort of amazing that $7.50 will get a working external sound card
 but obviously you've tried this and found it to work.

 I actually had a couple of other items to order from them as well.
 Spreads out the shipping.

 Tim, N9PUZ




Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread bruce mallon
signallink USB 

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, lsumners lsumn...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: lsumners lsumn...@yahoo.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Sound Cards
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:58 AM








I am looking at upgrading my Dell on board sound card. Any suggestions for 
digital radio?

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Rick Westerfield
QST had a very informative article a while back - worthwhile reading. I was 
surprised at the performance differences between the good, better and best 
cards in areas that really matter to our hobby. I still use my stock Dell 
soundcard but I now know why and how I could be doing better.

Rick - KH2DF

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2009, at 8:58 AM, lsumners lsumn...@yahoo.com wrote:



I am looking at upgrading my Dell on board sound card. Any suggestions for 
digital radio?




Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Robinson
I use an external soundcard the Creative labs Soundblaster X-fi is a very
good unit. many hams are claiming that the Sound Blaster is the best out
there for digi modes, and I have to agree. It works very well.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:58 AM, lsumners lsumn...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I am looking at upgrading my Dell on board sound card. Any suggestions for
 digital radio?

 



Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
If you don't have a serial port then consider the USInterface.com Navigator 
or the microHam USB III, both fine pieces of *external* hardware.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com

- Original Message - 
From: lsumners lsumn...@yahoo.com


I am looking at upgrading my Dell on board sound card. Any suggestions for 
digital radio?



Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Rick W
You could use an external device as others have suggested. I don't 
generally recommend the SignaLink USB due to the low frequency noise 
problem, however many hams either ignore it or are not aware of it. 
Further, after some considerable denial on the part of Tigertronics, 
they may have corrected this in later versions, but I can not yet 
confirm that.

On the other hand, I do recommend the SignaLink USB for the simplest 
possible portable unit such as might be used for public 
service/emergency communications and you don't want to be concerned 
about COM ports or USB to COM adapters. Just plug in the USB to the 
computer and plug in a rig specific cable and you can operate.

My personal lowest cost solution is to use an add on 24 bit sound card 
that connects to a hard keying PTT optoisolator interface. If you are 
handy at simple kit building, I can heartily recommend the Unified 
Microsystems SCI-6 Interface at only $25 plus about $5.50 US SH. I have 
almost all ICOM equipment, so I also use the West Mountain RigTalk USB 
to CI-V interface for an elegant way to provide the rig control 
interface connection. In order to do this you will need two COM ports or 
two USB to COM adapters, but it gives you the flexibility of being able 
to key the rig even from software that does not provide rig PTT keying 
via rig control.

As mentioned elsewhere, the ARRL had tested several sound cards, however 
as I recall they found that for digital modes, of the ones they tested, 
all worked equally well. (They did not test the SignaLink USB, however). 
They did find that a very high quality card is needed if you are using 
it for interfacing with DSP systems such as Flex Radio.

73,

Rick, KV9U



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Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Phil Barnett

On 06/17/2009 05:17 PM, Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] wrote:



Rick W skrev:

You could use an external device as others have suggested. I don't
generally recommend the SignaLink USB due to the low frequency noise
problem, however many hams either ignore it or are not aware of it.
Further, after some considerable denial on the part of Tigertronics,
they may have corrected this in later versions, but I can not yet
confirm that.

On the other hand, I do recommend the SignaLink USB for the simplest
possible portable unit such as might be used for public
service/emergency communications and you don't want to be concerned
about COM ports or USB to COM adapters. Just plug in the USB to the
computer and plug in a rig specific cable and you can operate.

   
If you really like the simplicity of the SignaLink USB ( I do), you 
can fix it's various problems, see Here:


http://www.frenning.dk/OZ1PIF_HOMEPAGE/SignaLinkUSB-mods.html


I did these mods on my SignalLink USB.

It made a huge difference, just like the article said it would.

Since I stole the transformers out of old 8 bit modems and I had a 
little toroid to wind up the inductor the total cost was about $2.50. I 
repainted the outside shell at the same time and the Hammertone dark 
grey paint cost more than the parts. I hated the putty color.


Re: [digitalradio] Sound Cards

2009-06-17 Thread Tim N9PUZ
How old are these units that have been modified to work properly?

Tim, N9PUZ

Phil Barnett wrote:
 
 
 On 06/17/2009 05:17 PM, Peter Frenning [OZ1PIF] wrote:
 Rick W skrev:
 You could use an external device as others have suggested. I don't 
 generally recommend the SignaLink USB due to the low frequency noise 
 problem, however many hams either ignore it or are not aware of it. 
 Further, after some considerable denial on the part of Tigertronics, 
 they may have corrected this in later versions, but I can not yet 
 confirm that.

 On the other hand, I do recommend the SignaLink USB for the simplest 
 possible portable unit such as might be used for public 
 service/emergency communications and you don't want to be concerned 
 about COM ports or USB to COM adapters. Just plug in the USB to the 
 computer and plug in a rig specific cable and you can operate.

   
 If you really like the simplicity of the SignaLink USB ( I do), you 
 can fix it's various problems, see Here:

 http://www.frenning.dk/OZ1PIF_HOMEPAGE/SignaLinkUSB-mods.html
 
 I did these mods on my SignalLink USB.
 
 It made a huge difference, just like the article said it would.
 
 Since I stole the transformers out of old 8 bit modems and I had a 
 little toroid to wind up the inductor the total cost was about $2.50. I 
 repainted the outside shell at the same time and the Hammertone dark 
 grey paint cost more than the parts. I hated the putty color.