Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-22 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > > Maybe it has to do with your security-setings in IE. You need to allow
> > > scripts
> > > to access "secure" ActiveX-Controls, as you need for all ajax stuff.
> > > Otherwise there will of course not be any chance to get an
> > > XMLHttpRequest object.
> >
> > But that cannot be the case because I tested your page and it worked...
> > so my IE security-settings must be OK for jsPAX.

Have you been able to track down that problem now? I'd be very fond to know 
the solution.

> Yes. I have not had coloured text in Konqueror (Linux), IE 5.0 (Linux/Wine)
> and Opera 7.54 (WindowsXP) that is all. All others I have checked with now
> have the colours (FF 2, Opera 9, IE 5.5, IE 6 , IE 7 all with Linux and
> Wine and FF 2 and IE 7 with Windows XP).

Of course I only use Wine for IE - I just noticed, that my phrasing was 
misleading here. FF and Opera run natively on my Linux system.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-18 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > Maybe it has to do with your security-setings in IE. You need to allow
> > scripts
> > to access "secure" ActiveX-Controls, as you need for all ajax stuff.
> > Otherwise there will of course not be any chance to get an XMLHttpRequest
> > object.
>
> But that cannot be the case because I tested your page and it worked...
> so my IE security-settings must be OK for jsPAX.

Maybe IE sorts your local files in another security domain. You can of course 
have completely different settings for different machines.

> Could you please confirm that the page you see in FF and IE both show
> colored code?

Yes. I have not had coloured text in Konqueror (Linux), IE 5.0 (Linux/Wine) 
and Opera 7.54 (WindowsXP) that is all. All others I have checked with now 
have the colours (FF 2, Opera 9, IE 5.5, IE 6 , IE 7 all with Linux and Wine 
and FF 2 and IE 7 with Windows XP).

> You'll begin to think I'm pedant, but in FF I see colored 
> code, no matter if I reload.

I think, that IE is awkward ;-) I have strange behaviour of IE 7 with other 
web applications as well so don't bother.

> On the contrary, in IE7 I can see at first 
> black code, and after a reload the page disappears and the progress bar
> keeps loading, and loading, and loading... (it never stops)

Hm, I see the colours before and after reloading both with Windows XP and with 
Wine. Reloading is no problem with IE 7 here as well. It just works as 
expected. It looks as if problems with the coloring code and reloading 
problems relate to each other somehow.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-18 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> I'm getting something similar in IE7 as well (FF and Opera seem fine). A
> "View Source" reveals this:
>
> 

Hm, that is nothing that could have been created with jsPax. I don't use 
deferred scripts and there is no "__ie_init" anywhere in jsPax as well. I'm 
not shure what happens there. It looks a bit like what $(document).ready() 
should do for IE.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-17 Thread Aaron Heimlich

On 1/17/07, Andrea Ercolino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Could you please confirm that the page you see in FF and IE both show
colored code? You'll begin to think I'm pedant, but in FF I see colored
code, no matter if I reload. On the contrary, in IE7 I can see at first
black code, and after a reload the page disappears and the progress bar
keeps loading, and loading, and loading... (it never stops)



I'm getting something similar in IE7 as well (FF and Opera seem fine). A
"View Source" reveals this:



and that's it.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-17 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Maybe it has to do with your security-setings in IE. You need to allow
> scripts 
> to access "secure" ActiveX-Controls, as you need for all ajax stuff. 
> Otherwise there will of course not be any chance to get an XMLHttpRequest 
> object.
> 

But that cannot be the case because I tested your page and it worked... 
so my IE security-settings must be OK for jsPAX.

Could you please confirm that the page you see in FF and IE both show
colored code? You'll begin to think I'm pedant, but in FF I see colored
code, no matter if I reload. On the contrary, in IE7 I can see at first
black code, and after a reload the page disappears and the progress bar
keeps loading, and loading, and loading... (it never stops)

I've put a test page here:
http://www.mondotondo.com/test/chili/test-jspax.html

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-16 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > I have no problems with a relative package path
>
> This is very strange... Did you use the exact files/directories in the zip
> I submitted?

Yes, I just changed packageBase to the path at my computer. Everything else is 
exactly the files in the zip.

Maybe it has to do with your security-setings in IE. You need to allow scripts 
to access "secure" ActiveX-Controls, as you need for all ajax stuff. 
Otherwise there will of course not be any chance to get an XMLHttpRequest 
object.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-16 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> I have no problems with a relative package path 
> 

This is very strange... Did you use the exact files/directories in the zip I
submitted?

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-16 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,
> > But I still have the same problem...
> > Here is a zip file. After unzipping, there will be a new "chili" folder
> > with a test page and a subfolder. It works in FF1.5.0.9 but does not in
> > IE7. http://www.nabble.com/file/5620/chili.zip chili.zip
>
> Currrently I don't have IE7 at hand - on monday again.

Sorry, yesterday there was too muc todo for the customers. Here we go:

On Sunday I have installed IEs4Linux on m Linux machine with IE5, IE5.5, IE6 
and IE7 all of them except for IE5 worked correctly. Now I have tested on a 
Windows XP machine with IE7. I have no problems with a relative package path 
('packages/'), but an absolute package path to a network device 
('//server/share/test/chili/packages/') doesn't work.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-13 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> Your test page works now :-)

Great :-) 

> But I still have the same problem...
> Here is a zip file. After unzipping, there will be a new "chili" folder
> with a test page and a subfolder. It works in FF1.5.0.9 but does not in
> IE7. http://www.nabble.com/file/5620/chili.zip chili.zip

Currrently I don't have IE7 at hand - on monday again.

I tried your code with Firefox 2.0, Opera 9.02 and Konqueror 3.5.5 on Linux. 
Firefox is OK, Opera has huge linespaces, but shows the colors. Konqueror 
doesn't do any coloring at all, but an alert() in the calback of $using() in 
chili.js fires. I guess you have tried that alert with IE as well.

BTW.: I usually don't write the packageBase in package_src.js. I keep that as 
it is an overwrite it outside. That way I don't have any problems when 
changing to the compressed package.js.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-13 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> @Andrea: can you please check, if that was the problem for you?
> 

Your test page works now :-)

But I still have the same problem...
Here is a zip file. After unzipping, there will be a new "chili" folder with
a test page and a subfolder. It works in FF1.5.0.9 but does not in IE7.
http://www.nabble.com/file/5620/chili.zip chili.zip 
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Aaron Heimlich

On 1/12/07, Christof Donat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Erm, yes. I just found that one. It was just trying to fetch the packages
from
http://jspax.cdonat.de/test/. I have changed that to /test/ now. On the
Server jspax.cdonat.de, jspax.org, jspax.de and jspax.com are the same
directory.



I know this is completely off topic (and I apologize for it), but, IIRC,
it's really bad for SEO (Search Engine Optimization) to have identical
content at multiple URLs because then they begin competing with each other
for rankings. Unless each domain has a separate purpose, (like mirrors or
something), I'd chose one domain ( jspax.org would be my pick) and simply
have the rest of them redirect to that one.

More info:
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#quality(look
particularly at the fifth bullet point under "Quality guidelines -
specific guidelines") and
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/topic.py?topic=8473 (look at
the "Setting the preferred domain" section towards the bottom of the page)

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> >>> http://www.jspax.org/test/
> >>
> >> FF, OK.
> >> IE, KO:
> >
> > Hm, It workes for me. I'll see if I can find something strange around the
> > point, the error message suggests.
> >
> > Christof
>
> For me on IE 6 it pops up a message saying "This page is accessing
> information that is not under its control. This poses a security risk.
> Do you want to continue?". If I say no it breaks but if I say yes it's
> OK... Maybe some security setting in IE can cause it to break?

Erm, yes. I just found that one. It was just trying to fetch the packages from 
http://jspax.cdonat.de/test/. I have changed that to /test/ now. On the 
Server jspax.cdonat.de, jspax.org, jspax.de and jspax.com are the same 
directory.

@Andrea: can you please check, if that was the problem for you?

Christof

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Kelvin Luck
Christof Donat wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>>> http://www.jspax.org/test/
>> FF, OK.
>> IE, KO:
> 
> Hm, It workes for me. I'll see if I can find something strange around the 
> point, the error message suggests.
> 
> Christof

For me on IE 6 it pops up a message saying "This page is accessing 
information that is not under its control. This poses a security risk. 
Do you want to continue?". If I say no it breaks but if I say yes it's 
OK... Maybe some security setting in IE can cause it to break?

Kelvin :)

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > http://www.jspax.org/test/
>
> FF, OK.
> IE, KO:

Hm, It workes for me. I'll see if I can find something strange around the 
point, the error message suggests.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
>> Which testsuite? What URL?
> 
> Look at
> http://www.jspax.org/test/
> 

FF, OK.
IE, KO:
http://www.nabble.com/file/5605/jspax.png 
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> Which testsuite? What URL?

Look at

http://www.jspax.org/test/

Christof

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Hm, that is strange. can you please check, if the testsuite at jquery.org 
> works correctly with IE for you? It uses exactly the compressed package.js 
> that is also available for download.
> 

Which testsuite? What URL?

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > Just a guess: Have you tried to use an absolute URL, or at leas an
> > absolute
> > path here? Maybe Firefox interprets that relative to the current HTML
> > page and IE interprets it relative to the js. Then IE tries to
> > load "packages/packages/jquery.js" where Firefox loads
> > "packages/jquery.js".
>
> I've tried again with an absolute path "/test/1.5/examples/4/packages/" and
> an absolute url "http://localhost/test/1.5/examples/4/packages/";, but still
> nothing changes: FF OK, IE KO.

Hm, that is strange. can you please check, if the testsuite at jquery.org 
works correctly with IE for you? It uses exactly the compressed package.js 
that is also available for download.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-12 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Just a guess: Have you tried to use an absolute URL, or at leas an
> absolute 
> path here? Maybe Firefox interprets that relative to the current HTML page 
> and IE interprets it relative to the js. Then IE tries to 
> load "packages/packages/jquery.js" where Firefox loads
> "packages/jquery.js".
> 

I've tried again with an absolute path "/test/1.5/examples/4/packages/" and
an absolute url "http://localhost/test/1.5/examples/4/packages/";, but still
nothing changes: FF OK, IE KO.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-11 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> 2.I've wrapped the content of the standard chili.js file inside this:
>   $using( 'jquery', function() {
>   ...
>   $package( 'chili', {} );
>   } );

Since you don't load chili.js via jsPax you don't necessarily need the 
$package()-call, but it doesn't hurt.

> 3.I've changed the default path inside package.js to:
>   $package.packageBase = 'packages/';

Just a guess: Have you tried to use an absolute URL, or at leas an absolute 
path here? Maybe Firefox interprets that relative to the current HTML page 
and IE interprets it relative to the js. Then IE tries to 
load "packages/packages/jquery.js" where Firefox loads "packages/jquery.js".

> 6.It works in FF, but it does not in IE.

I can not see anything you have done wrong.

If my guess proves to be correct I will change the documentation accordingly 
and think abuout what I can do about it. In all Tests I did, I have used 
absolute paths ("/test/packages/") or even absolute URLs 
("http://www.example.com/test/packages/";), or I have the script that calls 
$using() in the same directory as the HTML or even embedded into the HTML 
(like the testsuite). Therefore I did not come accross that problem.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-11 Thread Andrea Ercolino

1.  I've put this line at the bottom of the standard jquery.js file not
compressed: 
$package('jquery',{});

2.  I've wrapped the content of the standard chili.js file inside this:
$using( 'jquery', function() { 
... 
} );

3.  I've changed the default path inside package.js to:
$package.packageBase = 'packages/';

4.  I've added this markup to mypage.html:



5.  I've put the modified chili.js and jquery.js files inside the 'packages'
folder, 
so the folder from where the page is loaded contains: mypage.html,
package.js, packages/

6.  It works in FF, but it does not in IE.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-11 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> >> Yes, I downloaded it short before.
> >> Please, tell me when I can download the fixed version, and I'll test
> >> again
> >
> > I just have uploaded the current version again. Please try again.
>
> I've just downloaded and tried again but... nothing changed :(

Have you tried the testsuite that I have online? It worked for me with IE7.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-09 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I downloaded it short before.
>> Please, tell me when I can download the fixed version, and I'll test
>> again
> I just have uploaded the current version again. Please try again.
> 

I've just downloaded and tried again but... nothing changed :(

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-06 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> Yes, I downloaded it short before.
> Please, tell me when I can download the fixed version, and I'll test again

I just have uploaded the current version again. Please try again.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-05 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
>> > Well, I don't know about any guarantees, but it works in all test I did
>> > (with
>> > the loaded script delayed, etc.)
>>
>> I'm trying to apply your jsPAX to my Chili setup, but it works in FF1.5
>> and
>> not in IE7, which does not return any error and does not show the page,
>> just keeps loading indefinitely.
> 
> Have you just downloaded that version? The problem is, that IE7 has a 
> XMLHttpRequest Object that does not need ActiveX, but doesn't work like
> the 
> one of Firefox, Safari, Konqueror and Opera. In the current version I used 
> the ActiveX-XMLHttpRequest every time ActiveX is available - which at
> least 
> works as expected.
> 
> If you just have downloaded it, I put the wrong version online.
> 

Yes, I downloaded it short before. 
Please, tell me when I can download the fixed version, and I'll test again
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-05 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > Well, I don't know about any guarantees, but it works in all test I did
> > (with
> > the loaded script delayed, etc.)
>
> I'm trying to apply your jsPAX to my Chili setup, but it works in FF1.5 and
> not in IE7, which does not return any error and does not show the page,
> just keeps loading indefinitely.

Have you just downloaded that version? The problem is, that IE7 has a 
XMLHttpRequest Object that does not need ActiveX, but doesn't work like the 
one of Firefox, Safari, Konqueror and Opera. In the current version I used 
the ActiveX-XMLHttpRequest every time ActiveX is available - which at least 
works as expected.

If you just have downloaded it, I put the wrong version online.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-05 Thread Andrea Ercolino


Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Well, I don't know about any guarantees, but it works in all test I did
> (with 
> the loaded script delayed, etc.)
> 

Hi Christof.

I'm trying to apply your jsPAX to my Chili setup, but it works in FF1.5 and
not in IE7, which does not return any error and does not show the page, just
keeps loading indefinitely.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> > As you might know scripts are evaluated in the
> > order they are in the HTML code, that is that script will be
> > evaluated before script2 is.
>
> Interesting - is that guaranteed even when the scripts are added
> dynamically?

Well, I don't know about any guarantees, but it works in all test I did (with 
the loaded script delayed, etc.)

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Michael Geary
> > That looks really dodgy, sorry.
> >
> > What if the browser downloads script and script2 at the 
> > same time, and script2 finishes first?
> 
> It doesn't. script2 is not downloaded at all, it is like a 
> inline script.

Ah, I wasn't paying close enough attention to the code. :-)

> As you might know scripts are evaluated in the 
> order they are in the HTML code, that is that script will be 
> evaluated before script2 is.

Interesting - is that guaranteed even when the scripts are added
dynamically?

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> That looks really dodgy, sorry.
>
> What if the browser downloads script and script2 at the same time, and
> script2 finishes first?

It doesn't. script2 is not downloaded at all, it is like a inline script. As 
you might know scripts are evaluated in the order they are in the HTML code, 
that is that script will be evaluated before script2 is.

It does work in all browsers I have tested jsPax with. The only problem I know 
of is that script2 will also be evaluated if script can not be loaded 
sucessfully. Then as soon as the browser knows that it can not load script, 
it evaluates script2.

> Instead, simply edit your copy of jquery.js and add one like of code at the
> end of the file, to call a "ready" function that you've defined in your
> already-running code. If you have jQuery plugins that your code depends on,
> merge them all into jquery.js and add that function call at the very end.

I have a simple line at the end of jquery.js:

$package('jquery',{});

The plugins are wraped with 

$using('jquery', function() {
...
$package('jquery.myplugin',{});
});

If I then decide, I need the foo- and the bar-plugin in my code I simply do

$using(['jquery.foo','jquery.bar'], function() {
alert('jquery and foo plugin are loaded now');
});

That way I load much of the needed functions on demand. Which reduces startup 
time - paied with eventual delays at the first use of some functions.

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Michael Geary schrieb:
> Hmm... This would make a nice patch for jQuery itself - when it concatenates
> all the files to make the various "dist" versions, add this line to the end
> of the merged code:
>
> window.jQuery_onload && jQuery_onload();
>
> John et al, what do you think?
>   
The implementation is easy enough, just add that to src/outro.js, that 
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Michael Geary
 

> > I'm afraid that I simply don't take Safari users into 
> > account. Hardly a great thing, but I focus on three
> > browsers: Firefox and IE7, and then IE6.
> > In that order. The work I do is targetted at corporate
> > users who run Windows 2000 and Firefox, and all the
> > JS work I do is for those users.

> Then your solution is almost OK for you. Here is a usable
> version ;-)
> 
> (function() {
>   var addScriptCounter = 0;
> 
>   function addScript( url, callback ) {
> var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
> script.myLoadHandler = callback;
> script.id = 'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+addScriptCounter;
> script.type = 'text/javascript';
> script.charset = 'utf-8';
> script.src = url;
> 
> var script2 = document.createElement( 'script' );
> script2.type = 'text/javascript';
> script2.charset = 'utf-8';
> script2.appendChild(
>   document.createTextNode(
> '(function(){'+
>   'document.getElementById(\'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+
> addScriptCounter+'\').myLoadHandler();})()';
>   ));
> 
> var head = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
> head.appendChild( script );
> head.appendChild( script2 );
> 
> addScriptCounter++;
>   }
> })()
> 
> Usage:
> 
> addScript('jquery.js', function() {
>   alert('horay, jQuery is available');
> });
> alert('jQuery is not necessarily available here');
> 
> The second script tag will be evaluated after the first one 
> has been loaded and evaluated. At least that works for all
> browsers I have tested with, except those Safari versions
> and very old browsers without a usable DOM implementation. 

That looks really dodgy, sorry.

What if the browser downloads script and script2 at the same time, and
script2 finishes first?

Instead, simply edit your copy of jquery.js and add one like of code at the
end of the file, to call a "ready" function that you've defined in your
already-running code. If you have jQuery plugins that your code depends on,
merge them all into jquery.js and add that function call at the very end.

Hmm... This would make a nice patch for jQuery itself - when it concatenates
all the files to make the various "dist" versions, add this line to the end
of the merged code:

window.jQuery_onload && jQuery_onload();

John et al, what do you think?

-Mike

-Mike


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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Dan Atkinson

That's a good, workable solution!

Cheers,

Dan

Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I'm afraid that I simply don't take Safari users into account. Hardly a
>> great thing, but I focus on three browsers: Firefox and IE7, and then
>> IE6.
>> In that order. The work I do is targetted at corporate users who run
>> Windows 2000 and Firefox, and all the JS work I do is for those users.
> 
> Then your solution is almost OK for you. Here is a usable version ;-)
> 
> (function() {
>   var addScriptCounter = 0;
> 
>   function addScript( url, callback ) {
> var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
> script.myLoadHandler = callback;
> script.id = 'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+addScriptCounter;
> script.type = 'text/javascript';
> script.charset = 'utf-8';
> script.src = url;
> 
> var script2 = document.createElement( 'script' );
> script2.type = 'text/javascript';
> script2.charset = 'utf-8';
> script2.appendChild(
>   document.createTextNode(
> '(function(){'+
>   'document.getElementById(\'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+
> addScriptCounter+'\').myLoadHandler();})()';
>   ));
> 
> var head = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
> head.appendChild( script );
> head.appendChild( script2 );
> 
> addScriptCounter++;
>   }
> })()
> 
> Usage:
> 
> addScript('jquery.js', function() {
>   alert('horay, jQuery is available');
> });
> alert('jQuery is not necessarily available here');
> 
> The second script tag will be evaluated after the first one has been
> loaded 
> and evaluated. At least that works for all browsers I have tested with, 
> except those Safari versions and very old browsers without a usable DOM 
> implementation. 
> 
> If jQuery cannot be loaded successfully (wrong url e.g.), your callback
> will 
> still be called, and will fail as soon as it tries to access jQuery.
> 
> If you use a XMLHttpRequest, you can distinguish the case when loading was
> not 
> successfull from successfull loading before you really call the callback.
> By 
> the way you also get it working for Safari, but keep out those browsers 
> without a XMLHttpRequest implementation. For them jsPax falls back to
> adding 
> script tags via DOM.
> 
> That does not work only for the very old browsers without a usable DOM 
> implementation. There is also a fallback for them in jsPax, but I have not 
> really tested it, because I don't have such a browser at hand -
> theoretically 
> it should work.
> 
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

> I'm afraid that I simply don't take Safari users into account. Hardly a
> great thing, but I focus on three browsers: Firefox and IE7, and then IE6.
> In that order. The work I do is targetted at corporate users who run
> Windows 2000 and Firefox, and all the JS work I do is for those users.

Then your solution is almost OK for you. Here is a usable version ;-)

(function() {
  var addScriptCounter = 0;

  function addScript( url, callback ) {
var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
script.myLoadHandler = callback;
script.id = 'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+addScriptCounter;
script.type = 'text/javascript';
script.charset = 'utf-8';
script.src = url;

var script2 = document.createElement( 'script' );
script2.type = 'text/javascript';
script2.charset = 'utf-8';
script2.appendChild(
  document.createTextNode(
'(function(){'+
  'document.getElementById(\'dynamicallyLoadedScript_'+
addScriptCounter+'\').myLoadHandler();})()';
  ));

var head = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
head.appendChild( script );
head.appendChild( script2 );

addScriptCounter++;
  }
})()

Usage:

addScript('jquery.js', function() {
alert('horay, jQuery is available');
});
alert('jQuery is not necessarily available here');

The second script tag will be evaluated after the first one has been loaded 
and evaluated. At least that works for all browsers I have tested with, 
except those Safari versions and very old browsers without a usable DOM 
implementation. 

If jQuery cannot be loaded successfully (wrong url e.g.), your callback will 
still be called, and will fail as soon as it tries to access jQuery.

If you use a XMLHttpRequest, you can distinguish the case when loading was not 
successfull from successfull loading before you really call the callback. By 
the way you also get it working for Safari, but keep out those browsers 
without a XMLHttpRequest implementation. For them jsPax falls back to adding 
script tags via DOM.

That does not work only for the very old browsers without a usable DOM 
implementation. There is also a fallback for them in jsPax, but I have not 
really tested it, because I don't have such a browser at hand - theoretically 
it should work.

Christof

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-04 Thread Dan Atkinson

Christof,

I'm afraid that I simply don't take Safari users into account. Hardly a
great thing, but I focus on three browsers: Firefox and IE7, and then IE6.
In that order. The work I do is targetted at corporate users who run Windows
2000 and Firefox, and all the JS work I do is for those users. About three
people in our company have a Mac, and all of them use FF, so Safari simply
doesn't come into my considerations when coding.

Thanks though. It's always good to know a browsers limitations. :-)

Cheers,

Dan



Christof Donat wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>function addScript( url ) {
>>   var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
>>   script.type = 'text/javascript';
>>   script.charset = 'utf-8';
>>   script.src = url;
>>   document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild( script );
>>};
> 
> There are safari-versions which don't eval scripts like that. That is the 
> reason, why jspax uses XMLHttpRequest and eval() if possible and inserts a 
> script tag if XMLHttpRequest is not available (that deffinatelly is not
> that 
> Safari version then).
> 
>> addScript('jquery.js');
> 
> And then you guess the time when jquery is loaded. You can not expect that 
> jQuery is available when addScript returns. With jsPax you use
> 
> $using('jquery',function() {
>   alert('jQuery is now available');
> });
> 
>> I would recommend doing a search on the Nabble mailing list page for
>> this,
>> as it has been covered many times before.
> 
> Yes, and we had the problem with Safari in almost every thread about this 
> issue. We also had the problem of knowing the moment, the script has been 
> loaded almost in every one of those threads.
> 
> Sorry Dan, but I thought you really should have come across those issues.
> 
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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-03 Thread Christof Donat
Hi,

>function addScript( url ) {
>   var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
>   script.type = 'text/javascript';
>   script.charset = 'utf-8';
>   script.src = url;
>   document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild( script );
>};

There are safari-versions which don't eval scripts like that. That is the 
reason, why jspax uses XMLHttpRequest and eval() if possible and inserts a 
script tag if XMLHttpRequest is not available (that deffinatelly is not that 
Safari version then).

> addScript('jquery.js');

And then you guess the time when jquery is loaded. You can not expect that 
jQuery is available when addScript returns. With jsPax you use

$using('jquery',function() {
alert('jQuery is now available');
});

> I would recommend doing a search on the Nabble mailing list page for this,
> as it has been covered many times before.

Yes, and we had the problem with Safari in almost every thread about this 
issue. We also had the problem of knowing the moment, the script has been 
loaded almost in every one of those threads.

Sorry Dan, but I thought you really should have come across those issues.

Christof

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Re: [jQuery] dynamic loading of jquery.js into my web page

2007-01-02 Thread Dan Atkinson

   function addScript( url ) {
  var script = document.createElement( 'script' );
  script.type = 'text/javascript';
  script.charset = 'utf-8';
  script.src = url;
  document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild( script );
   };

You would use it by doing something like:

addScript('jquery.js');

I would recommend doing a search on the Nabble mailing list page for this,
as it has been covered many times before.

Cheers,

Dan Atkinson


bohumil wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I want to load file jquery.js into my web page dynamically. I tried this
> code:
> 
> script = document.createElement('script');
> script.src = 'jquery.js';
> x = document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0];
> x.appendChild(script);
> 
> this code works with my other javascript file, but it doesn't work
> jquery.js. Could you help me please?
> 
> 

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