Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o
On 2015/12/16 07:00, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote: MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As Rob has stated, MailChimp did not do something by itself. The list was aggregated from previous lists and events in which people participated. I have also received a similar unsolicited mail. I would like to know who has authorized the aggregation and usage of email address from "previous lists and events in which people participated". I think every event has a privacy policy and e-mail address provided are only to be used for communicating about the specific event and not for aggregating for future use. I too received the unsolicited email. Presumably it was because I was involved with the organization of FOSS4G2007. I have already used the (tracked) Unsubscribe link, and provided the feedback option that I unsubscribed because I never opted in. My suggestions: 1) It may need to be clarified, or explicitly stated (e.g. anywhere OSGeo/FOSS4g-related that collects an email address), but I would suggest that it is acceptable to utilize "collected email addresses" for "1-time announcement" emails. 2) When sending a "1-time announcement" email: - do not utilize any form of "tracking" - make it clear that this is a "1-time" email (i.e. in this case, for FOSS4GNA) - provide multiple methods in the email (such as links and a "reply with in the subject" email mechanism) so that the recipient can "opt in" - provide a clear (untracked) method so that the recipient can "opt out" of any further "1-time" emails (i.e. in this case, for FOSS4GNA) -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Organizing
On 2014/09/15 13:32, Paul Ramsey wrote: There are a number of places to start in finding such a corporate partner for event planning. Since getting involved in a commercial relationship like this is a big, existential decision for the organization, I think it falls to the board to decide (a) if moving to a single professional event organizer for all major foss4g events (international, na, eu) is warranted (b) if so, assigning a small team to speak with the alternatives, and bring a concrete decision in the form of a recommended company and contract terms to the board It is important to get a decision on (a) as quickly as possible I'd suggest a couple of slight modifications: - slightly different wording for the first item - add a new second item 1) The OSGeo Board decides whether moving to a single professional event organizer for all major foss4g events is warranted and practical at this time (international, na, eu). 2) If the answer to (1) is Yes, then what are the broad terms of reference that the board is willing to consider for potential candidates? For example, do potential candidates have to have established offices in various parts of the world? Do they have to have a track record organizing open source events? Do they have to have multilingual staff? Is the board OK with the notion of a conference organizer who does all the 'back office' tasks, including pre-conference registration, but who does not provide any boots on the ground staff at the actual conference (i.e. that staffing would be handled by the LOC, perhaps with a mix of local paid and volunteer staff)? What about minimum/maximum length of contract? Etc. 3) If the answer to (1) is Yes, then assign a small team to speak with potential candidates, and bring a concrete decision in the form of a recommended company and contract terms to the board. P.S. Item (3) could be broken down into two steps, and if done properly may not introduce too much extra delay: - the small team brings a shortlist to the board, and the board ratifies/amends the shortlist and raises any questions or concerns - the small team re-engages with the shortlisted candidates to arrive at a final recommendation for the board -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Membership fee (was: Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members)
On 2014/06/24 03:33, Mateusz Łoskot wrote: Folks, I still can't comprehend what actually is being objected in the proposal of membership fee. Moreover, I can't understand how the fact members financially support their organisation stands in contradiction with active volunteer-based participation. What is the actual problem here, act of paying or amount or anything else? My $0.02 [1] Separate the issues: A) Have a discussion about the Charter Member process that does not have anything to do with fees, and then come to a resolution (at least for this year). B) Have a separate discussion about fees and types of memberships (e.g. different thread(s), perhaps at a different time frame than (A) to avoid muddying the waters). C) Have a separate discussion about fundraising, and ways to accomplish that (some of which have already been brought up within the current discussions). [1] With the elimination of the Canadian penny[2] and the rounding process, that $0.02 is worth zero dollars, so take it for what's it's worth ;-) [2] http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/about-the-mint/phasing-out-the-penny-692 -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Newbie,Contribute through GSOC Program
On 2014/01/08 03:38, Jayesh Lahori wrote: Hi, My name is Jayesh Lahori, I'm a 3rd year Computer Science Student at International Institute of Information Technology, Hyderabad (India) .I'm interested in contributing to Open Source Projects of osGeo as a part of GSOC'14 , Any pointers on how should I go about it? I had also put up this mail on soc mailing list, but thought more people could help me here, so putting it up here, My Technical skill-set: *C/C++ , Python , Web Technologies(HTML,CSS,Javascript,PHP,web2py,OpenERP , MySQL).* *OS: GNU/Linux* Hello Jayesh. While you are waiting for the summer (and the GSOC), perhaps there's a role for you in helping with the OSGeo Live efforts. http://lisasoft.com.au/blog/starting-build-cycle-osgeo-live-79 -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE : Re: OSGEO4W future
On 2013/09/20 16:39, Alex Mandel wrote: Unlike OSGeoLive we can't supply VMs as that takes paid licenses for the software in question. Alex - could you please clarify what you mean by this statement. Thanks -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America Announcements
On 2013/01/15 11:32 AM, David William Bitner wrote: *Greetings! The planning committee of the 2013 Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial North America (FOSS4G-NA) conference to be held May 22-24 in Minneapolis, MN is pleased to make the following announcements which were recently posted to our website at http://foss4g-na.org. DIVERSITY In an effort to foster a diversity of voices the community voting will be done in a presenter anonymous fashion. In other words, you will be voting for the topic and abstract content, not the potential presenter. FOSS4G-NA is dedicated to a harassment-free conference experiencehttp://foss4g-na.org/harrassment-policy/ David et al: I have no issue with the Harassment Policy, but I am curious as to it's origin. Is it a result of specific problems at other FOSS4G-related events? -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2012 Cancel Request
On 2012/07/10 2:25 AM, OSGeo China wrote: Dear OSGeo Board, With great regret, the FOSS4G Beijing Local Organizing Committee (LOC) has made the difficult decision of cancelling the event due to a lack of financial resources and the unexpected withdrawal of the Professional Conference Organizer. Please officially approve our decision and advise any procedures we may need to follow to minimize the impact on the community. We also wrote letter for FOSS4G Beijing 2012 potential participants, we will publish this announcement on the foss4g2012 website and e-mail them after we get feedback from Board. It might be helpful for the FOSS4G 2013 LOC to provide a letter about the next FOSS4G, and have that letter translated, and send that letter out (both in English and any translated version(s)) along with any announcements about the FOSS4G 2012 cancellation. -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] any ideas on how to Monitor and Review 'random' files?
We are doing some brainstorming in order to come up with possible ideas of how to address a problem, so any thoughts, comments, or suggestions are welcome. The problem is outlined below. = Within a corporate environment the users have workstations running Microsoft Vista. All users have access to some network file shares, but different groups of users have access to different file shares. All file shares are using the NTFS filesystem. A group of users - call them the Workers - have a common file share that they use during the course of their business. When an event takes place, and for some time after, various Workers will add event-related files to the shared location. How such files are organized is up to the Workers. There is no technical mechanism (i.e. filesystem monitoring software) or procedural mechanism (i.e. business process) that currently exists that results in 'monitoring' the addition of, or changes to, the event-related files. A different user - call them the Reviewer - who works in a different part of the corporate organization, has a need to 'review and organize' some of the event-related files that are provided by the Workers. This process typically takes place 'after the event', however, event-related files might be added by the Workers well after the event took place (e.g. months or years later), so the Workers could be making updates during the same time period that the Reviewer is doing their 'reviewing and organizing'. For a particular event the Reviewer may want to review the event-related files, 'organize' them, and be informed when Workers add more files for that event. Eventually there may be a need to make a copy of some of the event-related files, based on criteria specified by the Reviewer. It may be possible to add software to the Reviewer's workstation to assist with this process, but it will be less likely to be able to deal with the Workers' workstations, and very unlikely to be able to deal with the servers hosting the file shares. Although this isn't really about geospatial processing, there are some geospatial files involved in this process. As an example: - an event takes place - call it ABC123 - a Worker who has files related to ABC123 will put the original files, or copies, on a file share (e.g. some raster maps, some shape files, some word processing documents, some emails, some JPEG photos, KMZ files, etc.) - other Workers will also have files related to ABC123, and they will also put them on the file share - the above process continues while the event ABC123 is 'active' - over time the initial set of ABC123 files will stabilize, and there may not be any new files added very often - the Reviewer gets involved sometime after the event, and starts with the set of files that exist at that point for event ABC123 - the Reviewer may want to 'organize' the files for event ABC123, however that might be able to be accomplished by 'organizing' file metadata, rather than having to make copies of the ABC123 files and organizing the copies - when files for event ABC123 are updated (e.g. a Worker adds a One Year After report for event ABC123), the Reviewer wants to be able to know that there has been an update - at some point the 'organized files' for event ABC123 (and possibly some 'notes' or 'metadata' about those files) will need to be copied from the Workers' file share to another file share, in order to preserve a copy of the files and to provide a location to use for processing the files as they are loaded into a 'document management system' that the Reviewer uses (the last step of loading files into the document management system is already in place, and isn't part of the brainstorming exercise) -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] any ideas on how to Monitor and Review 'random' files?
On 2012/02/17 11:36 AM, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote: It may be possible to add software to the Reviewer's workstation to assist with this process, but it will be less likely to be able to deal with the Workers' workstations, and very unlikely to be able to deal with the servers hosting the file shares. is that to be understood as .. they can view or download from, but not say make any scripts on the server ? The servers that host the file shares used by the Workers and/or the Reviewer are not available at all to the Workers/Reviewer. All they have access to is the file shares, which they use as mapped drives. The file servers are managed by a central part of the organization, so even the IT staff that supports the Workers/Reviewer does not have access to the file servers. -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] any ideas on how to Monitor and Review 'random' files?
On 2012/02/17 11:51 AM, Arnie Shore wrote: BTW, I believe the OP is looking for handling not a random file (hardly that!) but an 'arbitrary' user-selected one. Arnie is correct - I should have perhaps said 'arbitrary'. The point is that the Reviewer can't necessarily anticipate how the 'files of interest' will have been 'organized' by the Workers. -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Resignation from Committee
On 2012/02/06 7:06 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote: (on the [OSGeo-Conf] list) Hello everyone, I haven't been able to give my usual effort to this conference committee, since Denver. I feel it is best that I resign and let everyone continue their great FOSS4G work. [snip] And to all of the past FOSS4G event committee members, all those local organizers from 2003 until today, where would we be without you? - I thank you from my heart for working so hard and delivering a wonderful event, each and every year. I've enjoyed working with each and every one of you. Thank you. -jeff Jeff - while I'm sorry to hear of your departure from the Conference Committee and the OSGeo Board, I hope that it proves to be a positive move for your work, and life (and the balance between them). Good luck in your future endeavors! Board/Conference Committee - In a non-OSGeo-related discussion this past weekend I was reminded of the value of doing an exit interview when an employee leaves, and I'd suggest that an exit interview with Jeff, if he is willing, could provide some useful information. Of course any such interview should be done in private (conference call?). -- Dave Patton Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Finding position based on horizon profile?
On 2011/03/28 1:48 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Consider the following hypothetical problem: Assume we have a good elevation data set for a large region of the earth -- say, an entire mountain range. Now let's say we have a photograph taken from the ground, the horizon of which shows the profile of a couple of the mountains in that range. Can you tell me where the photograph was taken from? Something I've been interested in is sort of the reverse problem - knowing where a photograph was taken(e.g. you have a GPS waypoint), and maybe even a bearing (e.g. from a compass), can you tell me what mountains are in the photograph? Because of the potential viewscape, having good elevation data for an entire mountain range may not be sufficient. For example: http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/photos/boise2.jpg That was taken On the Pinecone Lake Trail, near Squamish, B.C., Canada. The view looks past Hopefull Meadows over the Boise Valley, with Mount Baker (Washington State, USA) in the distance. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New System May Disrupt GPS Signals
On 2011/02/10 2:56 PM, cruise...@comcast.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Woodbridgewood...@swoodbridge.com To: OSGeo Discussionsdiscuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:16:20 - (UTC) Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] New System May Disrupt GPS Signals This is very disturbing if it is approved! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/7/obama-to-america-get-lost/ new system will disrupt GPS signals. bunk and hokum!!! checking the application on the fcc website, lightsquaed is licensed to operate in the spectrum above and below the GPS carier freqency. stop spreading false rumors! This is a good explanation: http://freegeographytools.com/2011/how-the-fcc-plans-to-destroy-gps-a-simple-explanation Based on Garmin's test results, there is a real concern about GPS signal disruption. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Representing Places With Intelligent URLs
On 2010/10/05 4:45 PM, Landon Blake wrote: A talk at the recent Location Business Summit and some reading I've done about the semantic web and microformats lately got me to thinking about a standard way to represent places, place names, place data on the web. (I must admit I'm a desktop software guy, not a web programmer.) You might be interested in the O'Reilly book RESTful Web Services http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596529260 The example used for chapter 5, Designing Read-Only Resource-Oriented Services, is about 'serving maps': I'll only serve maps that use a standard 2-D coordinate system: a way of identifying any given point on the map. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly
On 2010/09/16 5:00 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: On 2010/09/16 19:42, Mateusz Loskot wrote: ... I very much supported this idea of paying for the shirts! How many T-Shirts end up being unused? It makes a lot of sense from an ecological / sustainability point of view to not just give away for free. I second Jeroen's opinion here. The price was 5 EUR per t-shirt making it affordable. Affordable, yes. But the registration fee should have included this affordable part. Build some flexibility into the registration process. For those who do early bird registration, have a single option where they make a choice whether or not they want 'the OSGeo swag'. That could be a t-shirt + bag + LiveCD + button + etc. Have a single reasonable price. Once early bird registration ends you know just how much swag to produce for 'the early birds', so you only have to guess at the rest of the numbers. It lessens the risk for this one cost item, and allows some of the attendees to 'opt out'. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
On 2010/06/04 1:49 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: For the OSGeo LiveDVD and OSGeo marketing material, I propose we use a 5 star maturity rating. This is because it is too difficult to explain in a couple of words, the difference between: Graduated, In Incubation, Stable, Beta Again, I'm interested to hear comments on whether I have defined a good rating system, before we set it in stone. Don't use any rating system, as that implies to most people some (usually subjective) judgment. For example, people looking at marketing materials might think it reflects on product quality. It sounds to me like you want to define a simple categorization system, not a rating system. Don't use stars, because again, it's too often used as a visual indicator in rating systems. I'm still not convinced in my own mind that doing something as simple as calling it a Maturity Categorization, and using from 1 to 5 OSGeo Logos vs using stars would provide a solution that would be acceptable. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any thoughts on the potential for using Seadragon as a map browsing interface?
On 2010/04/27 8:46 PM, Landon Blake wrote: I'm not a web developer, but it seemed like the tech could be used for browsing high-resolution map images. http://www.seadragon.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ra5tp7K--I -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Db connect
On 2010/03/02 7:01 PM, Ravi wrote:
Hi, am using OSGeo4W bundle and the apache and php there in. Apache
installed OK showing as aservice and in the browser http:\\localhost
issues the OSGeo4w welcome screen and phpthere on
with the following wish to connect to PGSQL 8.4 and postGIS there in
with the following. But it doesnt work. Where am I going wrong ?
$db_handle = pg_connect(”host = localhost port = 5432 dbname =
postgis user = postgres password = GrassJump”); $query = “SELECT *
FROM rjybound”; $result = pgexec($dbhandle, $query);
Try something like this. (Not fully tested)
?
error_reporting(E_ALL);
$db_handle = pg_connect(host = localhost port = 5432 dbname = postgis
user = postgres password = GrassJump);
if( $db_handle === FALSE ) {
echo 'Failed to connect';
} else {
$query = 'SELECT * FROM rjybound';
$result = pg_query($db_handle, $query);
if( $result === FALSE ) {
$error = pg_last_error($db_handle);
if( $error === FALSE ) {
echo 'Unable to determine last error';
} else {
echo 'Last Error = ' . $error;
}
} else {
while ( $row = pg_fetch_row($result) ) {
echo Element 0: $row[0];
echo br /\n;
}
}
}
?
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CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.
Degree Confluence Project:
Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
http://www.confluence.org/
Personal website:
Maps, GPS, etc.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Db connect
On 2010/03/02 7:01 PM, Ravi wrote:
Hi, am using OSGeo4W bundle and the apache and php there in. Apache
installed OK showing as aservice and in the browser http:\\localhost
issues the OSGeo4w welcome screen and phpthere on
with the following wish to connect to PGSQL 8.4 and postGIS there in
with the following. But it doesnt work. Where am I going wrong ?
$db_handle = pg_connect(”host = localhost port = 5432 dbname =
postgis user = postgres password = GrassJump”); $query = “SELECT *
FROM rjybound”; $result = pgexec($dbhandle, $query);
Try something like this. (Not fully tested)
?
error_reporting(E_ALL);
$db_handle = pg_connect(host = localhost port = 5432 dbname = postgis
user = postgres password = GrassJump);
if( $db_handle === FALSE ) {
echo 'Failed to connect';
} else {
$query = 'SELECT * FROM rjybound';
$result = pg_query($db_handle, $query);
if( $result === FALSE ) {
$error = pg_last_error($db_handle);
if( $error === FALSE ) {
echo 'Unable to determine last error';
} else {
echo 'Last Error = ' . $error;
}
} else {
while ( $row = pg_fetch_row($result) ) {
echo Element 0: $row[0];
echo br /\n;
}
}
}
?
--
Dave Patton
CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.
Degree Confluence Project:
Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
http://www.confluence.org/
Personal website:
Maps, GPS, etc.
http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically
On 2010/01/22 9:38 AM, Alex Mandel wrote: In discussions with some of the OSSIM team, they are interested in this area but the current app does not do this. Other options that have come up are OpenCv and Nasa Image Workbench but both of these are programming libraries and would require c/c++ coding. Although this isn't directly related to the end goal of achieving geo-referenced aerial imagery via OS software, AutoStitch does a great job of automatic panoramic image mosaicing: http://www.autostitch.net/ The licensing info says We are happy to hear from companies interested in developing products using AutoStitch, so perhaps a call from Tyler (who also happens to be in BC) to the office at UBC would be appropriate, to see if there is any possibility of collaboration between them and OSGeo to utilize their code in an OSGeo-backed project. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fleet management
On 2010/01/04 10:41 AM, Louis Sayers wrote: On the driver side (running on the GPS device - I'm thinking touchscreen) the mapping software would provide driver directions visually and possibly audibly - just like a Navigation device e.g. TomTom - but with a few custom buttons etc on it to let the driver send info back to the server. For some jurisdictions, the GPS Device would need to be able to respond to voice commands, rather than the driver having to use buttons. For example, new legislation here in BC that took effect January 1st says about GPS navigation systems: It can be programmed in a voice-activated manner http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/osmv/publications/docs/electronic-devices-while-driving-info.pdf -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Lurkers
On 2009/08/21 11:55 AM, Landon Blake wrote: I would like to get some comments on a phenomenon I have discovered among the OpenJUMP community. I know for sure of one (1) company that maintains a separate fork of OpenJUMP, but which monitors our mailing list and likely grabs patches form our source code repository. They never participate in the forums or make known their use of OpenJUMP in any other public manner. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why this company wouldn't take a more active role in supporting the OpenJUMP community. Some companies, governments, and institutions have policies in place that prohibit or limit the ability of employees to 'participate' on forums or mailing lists. Lurking by reading blogs, list archives, forum postings, etc. may be allowed, but employees may not be permitted, during 'work hours' to participate. For some people, if it's 'about the job' they won't then use their own off-work time to participate, and even for those that do, they may be prohibited from making any mention that they work for company X, so you may have participation from one or more people from company X, but not know it. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Some cialis spam in the wiki...
On 2009/07/04 8:00 AM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Ghisla wrote: Is this enough to avoid such spam? Is't captcha better? I can have a look at how it can be implemented in user login (I know it is already active when a user adds external links to a page). Go for it. If you find instructions, I can enable it. There is a MediaWiki Extension for reCaptcha [1] http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ [1] http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReCAPTCHA -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Video Bolsena 2009 OSGeo Hacking Event
On 2009/07/01 7:34 AM, Just van den Broecke wrote: Hi, A freestyle media mix from last week's event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxox3AsjH6Q Nice - thanks for doing that! Maybe someone will do something similar for FOSS4G2009? -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo4w setup.exe source code?
On 2009/02/25 7:51 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote: Hello list. Thanks everyone for the great work done with OSGeo4W. I have a strange (maybe) question. I suppose that osgeo4w setup.exe is a fork of the cygwin's setup. Is it possible to view/download its source code? Thanks, Giovanni I have a different question. Is setup.exe the best way to install software on microsoft windows? Has Windows Installer, that is an .msi file been considered? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_installer I know that my IT section has a strong preference for software to be installed via .msi. Nick, Originally we were hopeful about being able to produce MSI files as these are considered to be easier for some IT departments to deploy. But in the end it did not appear that MSI files provide support for many of the things we wanted to address. Notably - fine grained packages, dependencies, upgrade versioning, and only downloading the parts that are needed from the net. I would like to think that the OSGeo4W .tar.bz2 package files could still be repackaged as MSI files for specific situations. Frank's last sentence explains what will happen in some organizations, no matter how the OSGeo4W 'installer' is created. Where I work, any product that is going to be installed on 'more than a few' workstations has to be packaged. If the vendor's software (e.g. OSGeo4W) is provided as a setup.exe, then that will be 'exploded', and the component parts (files, registry settings, shortcuts, etc) are all included in an MSI file. If the vendor supplies their software in an MSI, then we never modify that MSI, but will always add an MST (a file that is used during the installation to Transform the MSI). Our MST might simply add properties to control how the installation takes place (e.g. suppress all user interaction), or it might be 'more intrusive', to the point of not installing parts of the vendor's software package. As for the flexibility of using an MSI, they can be very flexible, so I'm not sure what limitations were encountered in regards to OSGeo4W. They can likely be overcome, however, like anything else, it may take some time/effort, and the choice might be to spend that time/effort on other things. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] defining a Geospatial Integration Showcase to be launched at FOSS4G 2009
On 2008/10/22 3:58 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: Cameron Shorter wrote: The OGC, a likely supporter, will be talking with our FOSS4G organising committee early next week, and I'd like to table ideas from you, the OSGeo community, to the meeting. Data is where it starts; do you have data? Data is certainly needed, but the 'most important thing' is to make it happen. For FOSS4G 2007, we had lots of data, loaded onto a server, but the Integration Showcase didn't take place. For 2009, I'd suggest only two sets of data are needed: - Australian/New Zealand data, so that 'local' participants can see 'local data', and so as to draw 'local' data custodians into participation in FOSS4G 2009 - OSGeo datasets, because they are widely available, and may already be used as example datasets in training materials, etc. Having other datasets, and/or services, might be nice, but could always be dealt with 'later on', if there is time 'right before the conference'. Also, if the Integration Showcase is 'up and running', then it provides the opportunity for people to create Workshops that show people how to take 'their data' and use it in a similar fashion. People can take the Workshop, get some knowledge, and then see in the Integration Showcase real live examples, and hopefully will be able to understand how they can apply the knowledge to 'their own' data sources. If the above is to be able to be done, then it suggests that the technologies used by the Integration Showcase should all be covered by Workshops and/or Presentations, so that people can both see the Integration Showcase, and also have the opportunities to learn about 'how it all fits together'. Those opportunities should probably include both 'beginner level' as well as some 'pushing the envelope advanced stuff'. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G 2009 conference: Conference Committee member http://2009.foss4g.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs at FOSS4G 2009?
On 2008/10/19 1:30 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: I'm wondering whether it will be achievable and desirable to use a GeoFOSS LiveDVD as the only installed operating system at workshops and labs at FOSS4G 2009. So my questions to communities are: Do you and your project think you would commit to packaging your project into a debian based LiveDVD before FOSS4G in October 2009? For presenters, would you want to add tutorial material to the LiveDVD, which would mean using an Open licence like Creative Commons? I would start by asking a different question - does anyone foresee any issue with not having MS Windows available as an option for Workshops/Labs for FOSS4G 2009? We might not want to restrict the discussion to OSGeo projects. What if a Sponsor, or Exhibitor, or 'some software company', or 'some non-OSGeo project' submitted a proposal to deliver a Workshop/Lab, and it merited consideration for inclusion in the conference, but it required MS Windows? Were there Workshops/Labs at FOSS4G 2008 that could not have been delivered without having MS Windows? If we assume that there was 'some need' for MS Windows for FOSS4G 2009, but that it wasn't needed for all the PCs, how would people react to Workshops/Labs that required MS Windows also requiring a higher registration fee? (i.e. higher by the incremental cost of the license to use MS Windows on the PC for the Workshop/Lab) P.S. It helps if everyone uses the term Instructors when referring to Workshops/Labs, because Presenter makes people think of Presentations, and sometimes that causes confusion. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident
On 2008/10/17 12:15 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote: Hi All, I resend this mail to OSGeo discuss because I think is a serious incident that cannot be obviated and shows how things are getting at least in Spanish market. As Alvaro says, why they have this behavior with his colleagues? Maybe they fear FOSS companies? Anyway, all of you are invited to the gvSIG conf, even to discuss, it's free in both senses ;) ESRI was a sponsor at FOSS4G 2007, and had a Lab. Who knows, maybe they will be involved somehow in FOSS4G 2009(for sure they won't be excluded just because they are viewed as competition for FOSS). Perhaps they can have a booth in the exhibition (and maybe gvSIG wants to have a booth right next to the ESRI booth ;-) -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2009 Code sprint
On 2008/10/11 12:42 PM, Tim Sutton wrote: Another point to make is that the turn out to the sprint was 3.5 x the number of people who said they would come so getting attendance of the sprint as part of the registration process will help you plan better. Were there people who attended the FOSS4G 2008 Code Sprint who were not registered delegates to the FOSS4G conference? In other words, does the code sprint registration need to be distinct from the conference registration in order to capture everyone who is wanting to attend? -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] attendance at PKP 2009 Conference
As OSGeo intends to use OCS[1] as the software for the management of OSGeo conferences, should someone from OSGeo be attending the PKP 2009 Conference[2], July 8 – 10, 2009 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada? [1] http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=ocs [2] http://pkp.sfu.ca/node/1663 -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code Sprint: How Much?
On 2008/10/09 10:57 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote: I've been thinking about something similar to the Bolsena event in North America, but it's hard to work out a scheme that will be productive, given the geographic dispersal of folks. I think a C tribe sprint would be excellent, but we're pretty spread out (though biased towards Ottawa / Quebec). Anyone want to rent a chalet in the Gatineau hills? A chalet? Back east? Isn't that the definition of Frank's place? ;-) -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] some post-FOSS4G thoughts
On 2008/10/07 11:04 AM, Landon Blake wrote: It would be cool if we could get a point location and radius of acceptable travel from each OSGeo member. You could then determine which host cities for a local or regional conference would impact the most users. That would only let you look at the impact on OSGeo members. Even for a regional conference, that does not include the complete universe of potential delegates for the conference. I have no idea whether it would be a useful predictor of overall conference attendance. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] some post-FOSS4G thoughts
On 2008/10/07 11:19 AM, Chip Taylor wrote: I have to agree that something more local needs to be offered as well. I attended the Victoria conference and found it to be one of the most useful conferences I had attended in many years. But the cost of an airline ticket from Seattle to Capetown was nearly $2,000 US. Flying time to Capetown was on the order of 24 hours and returning the flying time was over 31 hours. That's 55 hours of grueling travel time, not to mention airport time. Add in the hotel/BB/tent/sleeping on the street, food and the conference fees you are talking a good bit of expense here. In both cash and time, this was just too prohibitive. My company would have rejected it outright and I certainly could not have afforded it from my own funds. I hope to attend a FOSS4G conference again, but I am afraid with world finances the way they are, as well as airline situations, it will be quite a few years before I can do that. Chip Taylor Prepared Response, Inc Tacoma, WA If you 'reverse the directions' in Chip's text, you might get the wording used by people in Capetown to explain why they perhaps didn't wouldn't a FOSS4G conference in Seattle. And the same might have been said for some people in Australia who didn't attend FOSS4G 2007 in Victoria BC Canada, but then you could probably 'reverse' that in 2009 for why some people won't attend FOSS4G 2009 in Sydney Australia. It just reinforces that by moving FOSS4G around geographically, each year some people will be unable to attend, while at the same time others will have an opportunity to attend that year. Overall, the most good for the most people, given time. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Local Chapter, network and structuration
On 2008/08/26 3:08 PM, James Fee wrote: I overheard someone say at GeoWeb 2008 that they could care less about FOSS4G outside of North America and they have no interest in what will probably be the next couple FOSS4Gs around the world. Hearing things like that, and the reactions about it being 'impossible' for USA state and local government employees, etc., make me wonder if there is any value in having the organizing committees of 'foreign' OSGeo events doing any marketing directly to such people. The glass half empty view would be that such marketing is 'a waste of time and money', because such people either aren't personally interested, or their workplace has policies that won't allow them to attend. The glass half full view is that by directly marketing to such people (who might want to self-identify, to make sure they are on the relevant 'marketing lists') they get the opportunity to have discussions with their supervisor(s), and that if, over time, enough people raise the issue enough times, along with examples of how other jurisdictions get value from sending their staff to 'foreign events', maybe things will change. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Local Chapter, network and structuration
On 2008/08/25 9:18 AM, Landon Blake wrote: There is no way I can go to FOSS4G in a foreign country, but I could likely get to a North American meeting on the West Coast. I'm sure others are in the same boat. Well, North America's West Coast includes the 'foreign countries' of Canada and Mexico, if you live in the USA. If people are saying they can't attend [insert name of OSGeo event here], then it would be useful to state why they can't attend. There is a difference between travel/accommodation cost is 'too high' and my workplace has to authorize the travel, and they do not send people to events outside the continent, regardless of the costs. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
OSGeo makes use of freenode for IRC, including both 'general OSGeo channels' such as #osgeo and project- specific channels. 1) Has the OSGeo board considered contributing to the Peer-Directed Projects Center? http://freenode.net/how_to_help.shtml 2) Has the OSGeo foundation, or any of the OSGeo projects, done the Group Registration with freenode? http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml 3) There has been, on more than one occasion, discussion about whether to use #foss4g as the channel for any discussions relating to the FOSS4G conference, or to continue the pattern of creating a new channel for each year (e.g. #foss4g2007, #foss4g2008, etc.). Jeff McKenna (Conference Committee chair) suggested deferring any decision until after FOSS4G2008, so as not to disrupt any communications relating to the conference, which makes sense. I only raise the issue now because such planning might relate to Group Registration. Info on channel registration on freenode: http://blog.freenode.net/?p=78 Also, it is possible to setup a series of channels such as #foss4g2009, #foss4g2010, etc., and have /join requests redirected to a different channel such as #foss4g (e.g. /mode #foss4g2008 +if #foss4g) -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Director's Insurance (Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions)
On 2008/06/16 8:30 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to ask the board to revisit this issue and provide clear guidance on just what support official position holders can expect from OSGeo. Bruce, Is this question with regard to local chapters, conference organizers, or OSGeo officers in general? If Tyler comes up with a Directors and Officers insurance quote, would you be interested in reviewing it to see if it does what you think is needed? I'm quite concerned that comprehensive DO insurance that covers us globally is likely to be very expensive, and that standard DO insurance is not likely to give you the sort of fail-safe coverage that you seem to want. At least in part, the points raised by Cameron and Bruce relate to the roles, responsibilities, and potential liabilities of people working on the organization of the FOSS4G 2009 conference, however, the basic issue(s) probably apply more broadly. Rather than Directors and Officers insurance, we may be looking for Errors and Omissions insurance (or both). Perhaps it would be useful to determine a name that could be used for the class of 'people who perform some actions or services on behalf of OSGeo', and who are not employees of OSGeo? My thought is that such people (OSGeo volunteer?) could be specifically covered by any insurance policy (based on participation in that class of people, not by being named individually), and that for specific time periods, specific people could be named by OSGeo to belong to that category. For example, if OSGeo had an insurance policy that covered OSGeo volunteers, then perhaps OSGeo naming the FOSS4G local organizing committee members as OSGeo volunteers, for the period from bid acceptance through to the end of any FOSS4G-related contracts, would provide a suitable amount of coverage for the committee members? The BC Strata Property Act deals in part with people who serve on Strata Councils, and those people are volunteers, but routinely deal with financial matters. The act mentions the required standard of care: http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/S/98043_04.htm#section31 and also insurance: http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/stat/S/98043_09.htm#section151 Here's a couple of examples of insurance that covers volunteers: https://forums.scc.ca/forums/scc/dispatch.cgi/HELPDESK/docProfile/100023/d19990825181803 http://www.cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/25533.html -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions
On 2008/06/12 8:56 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: Anyway. Another triviality we need to address are export restrictions. Due to formal reasons OSGeo was required to incorporate[4]. It could have been Togo - home of one of the most active and diverse spatial communities[5]. Or it could have been Switzerland, one of the most neutral (soccer looser) nations or it could have been Canada Many shipping companies have their ships registered under a flag of convenience. Should OSGeo consider setting sail in that direction? Are there practical matters (e.g. wording in the foundation's charter or letters of incorporation) that preclude OSGeo from being incorporated in multiple jurisdictions? -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions
On 2008/06/12 5:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Paul, Some Local Chapters are going through this process currently, e.g. OSGeo-AustNZ. We will need to incorporate as a non profit within Australia with its overheads of audits, annual fees etc. One potential upside is that we may get some protection by way of Directors Insurance for people making decisions on behalf of OSGeo (or the local chapter). During the recent FOSS4G-2009 work, several of us were left high and dry with no protection from the parent body. This situation is not acceptable. I understand what Bruce is referring to, but, depending on the relevant legislation, should an issue ever arise where 'the legal system' was potentially going to be involved, the lack of a Directors and Officers or Volunteers insurance policy may not leave people high and dry. Sometimes, legislation will protect people who provide services to an organization on a volunteer basis. The premise is that if such lay people are acting on a best effort basis to 'do the right thing', they are protected, even if it turns out they 'did the wrong thing'. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] [Fwd: GeoConnections - WebCas t presentation of WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivN et project/IPY / GéoConnexions - Présentation WebCast du projet de Catalogue géospatial WMS-W
FYI: Original Message Subject: GeoConnections - WebCast presentation of WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivNet project/IPY / GéoConnexions - Présentation WebCast du projet de Catalogue géospatial WMS-WCS pour ArctivNet/IPY Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:32:48 -0400 From: info-geoconnections [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: info-geoconnections [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Le français suit) WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivNet/IPY The WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivNet/IPY enables web users to query, review and have geospatial products delivered through the use of the CGDI endorsed standards, WMS and WCS services. The geospatial data resides on a distributed network linked through WMS and WCS services. This network is capable of on going expansion through these CGDI endorsed services. Although the goal of the project was to implement the WMS/WCS functionality on the host server at CCIN and a remote WMS/WCS system for the data provider, the software has been repackaged as a standalone CD for data suppliers and server for use by Noetix in other projects. The package consists of WMS, WCS, and PostGIS, and XML database population tools. GeoConnections will be hosting a presentation of the results from this project: When: Thursday, June 19, 13:00-15:00 EDT Web/Telephone Access: Contact David Sampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Link to company website: http://www.noetix.on.ca/ http://www.noetix.on.ca/ This presentation will provide an overview of the Noetix WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivNet/IPY and its architecture, as well as a demonstration followed by a discussion. Agenda: 1. Overview of the WMS-WCS Geospatial Catalogue for ArctivNet/IPY 2. Architecture of System 3. Products that have been produced 4. Demo 5. Discussion * Catalogue géospatial WMS-WCS pour ArctivNet/IPY Le catalogue géospatial WMS-WCS pour ArctivNet/IPY permet aux utilisateurs du web d'interroger, réviser et livrer des produits géospatiaux par le biais de normes adoptées par l'ICDG qui sont le WMS et WCS. Les données géospatiales résident dans un réseau de distribution interrelié par des services WMS et WCS. Ce réseau convient à une expansion continue par le biais de ces normes et services adoptés par l'ICDG. Même si l'objectif de ce projet était d'implanter les fonctionnalités WMS/WCS sur le principal serveur du CCIN et sur un autre serveur comme système WMS/WCS à distance de fournisseur de données, le logiciel a aussi été assemblé afin de créer un CD standalone pour les fournisseurs de données et pour les pour l'usage de Noetix dans le cadre d'autres projets. L'assemblage consiste en des outils de population de bases de données WMS, WCS, PostGIS et XML. GéoConnexions tiendra une séance Internet pour présenter les résultats de ce projet: Quand: Le jeudi 19 juin, 13:00-15:00 HAE Accès Internet/Téléphonique: Contactez David Sampson à [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lien vers le site de la compagnie (anglais seulement): http://www.noetix.on.ca/ Cette présentation (en anglais) fournira un aperçu du catalogue géospatial WMS-WCS pour ArctivNet/IPY ainsi que son architecture ainsi qu'une démonstration suivie de discussion. Agenda: 1. Aperçu du catalogue géospatial WMS-WCS pour ArctivNet/IPY 2. Architecture du système 3. Produits générés 4. Démonstration 5. Discussion -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] [Fwd: GeoConnections - WebCas t presentation of Geo-referenced Document Management Syste m Project / GéoConnexions - Présentation WebCast du p rojet de système géo-référencé de gestio
Forwarding this, just in case it's of interest to anyone. Original Message Subject: GeoConnections - WebCast presentation of Geo-referenced Document Management System Project / GéoConnexions - Présentation WebCast du projet de système géo-référencé de gestion de documents Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:28:44 -0400 From: info-geoconnections [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Le français suit) Geo-referenced Document Management System MRF Geosystems Corp has developed an industry-leading web-based GIS editing solution called MRF GISNet. Using this solution, an enterprise can be enabled to allow each staff member to perform GIS tasks such as map viewing, GIS analysis, map plotting, and GIS editing. With the financial support from GeoConnections under the Directed Innovations program, MRF developed a web-based Geo-referenced Document Management System and implemented this system at two collaborating organizations: Alberta SRD for Alberta Wildfire System, and Orange County, California for Cadastral Record Management. Both organisations are using the MRF GISNet editing solution as their base platform. GeoConnections will be hosting a presentation of the results from this project: When: Thursday, June 12, 10:00-12:00 EDT Web/Telephone Access: Contact David Sampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Link to company website: www.mrf.com http://www.mrf.com/ This presentation will provide an overview of the MRF GISNet system, as well as demonstration / discussion of both the Geo-referenced Document Management Systems for Alberta Sustainable Resource Development and for Orange County, California Agenda: 1. MRF Introduction 2. MRF GISNet for web-based GIS editing 3. Geo-referenced Document Management System for Alberta Sustainable Resource Development 4. Geo-referenced Document Management System for Orange County, California 5. QA * Système géo-référencé de gestion de documents MRF Geosystems Corp a développé une solution d'édition géospatiale basée sur le web appelée MRF GISNet. Avec cette solution, une entreprise peut être outillée afin de permettre à chacun de ses employés d'effectuer des tâches reliées aux SIG telles que la visualisation de cartes, l'analyse géospatiale, l'impression de cartes et l'édition géospatiale. Avec la contribution financière de GéoConnexions sous le programme d'innovations dirigées, MRF a développé un système géo-référencé de gestion de document basé sur le web et a implanté ce système aux bureaux de 2 organisations collaboratrices au projet: Alberta SRD for Alberta Wildfire System et Orange County, California for Cadastral Record Management. Les deux organisations utilisent la solution d'édition MRF GISNet comme plate-forme de base. GéoConnexions tiendra une séance Internet pour présenter les résultats de ce projet: Quand: Le jeudi 12 juin, 10:00-12:00 HAE Accès Internet/Téléphonique: Contactez David Sampson à [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lien vers le site de la compagnie (anglais seulement): www.mrf.com http://www.mrf.com/ Cette présentation (en anglais) fournira un aperçu du système MRF GISNet et une démonstration / discussion des deux implantations, i.e. Alberta SRD for Alberta Wildfire System et Orange County, California for Cadastral Record Management. Agenda: 1. Introduction à MRF 2. Solution d'édition MRF GISNet 3. Système géo-référencé de gestion de document pour Alberta Sustainable Resource Development 4. Système géo-référencé de gestion de document pour Orange County, California 5. QR -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] [Fwd: GeoConnections - Webcas t Presentation of SensorBay Project / GéoConnexions - P résentation Webcast du projet SensorBay]
Forwarding this, just in case it's of interest to anyone. Original Message Subject: GeoConnections - Webcast Presentation of SensorBay Project / GéoConnexions - Présentation Webcast du projet SensorBay Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:44:03 -0400 From: info-geoconnections [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Le français suit) Emerging Web-sensor standards and technologies The proliferation of real-time and near real-time data sources (weather, water, air) over the Internet has resulted in a need for a standardized approach to discovery, visualization and access of observation and measurement data. As well, end user applications catering to casual users (neogeography, Google Earth, mashups, etc.) are increasingly leveraging data originating from instruments such as in-situ sensors. The Open GeoSpatial Consortium (OGC) SensorWeb Enablement activity aims to define a suite of standards which apply to sensors and the phenomenon they measure, which includes: * station descriptions * site data encoding * alerting and mission / feasibility planning Recently, as part of the GeoConnections Directed Innovations Program, Compusult has completed the SensorBay project, which provides a community portal for the Placentia Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador region. GeoConnections will be hosting a presentation of the results from this project: When: Friday, June 13, 10:00-12:00 EDT Web/Telephone Access: Contact David Sampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Link to Project Description: http://www.sensorbay.ca/ http://www.sensorbay.ca/ This presentation will provide an overview of OGC SensorWeb, as well as a demonstration / discussion of the SensorBay project as a community information portal contributing to CGDI Agenda: - Introduction - Intro and Overview of OGC SensorWeb - SensorBay Project - Overview - Project Demonstration - Current development efforts and future plans - Other projects and initiatives building on SensorBay - Discussion * Émergence des standards et technologies Web-sensor La prolifération des sources de données en temps réel et quasi-réel (climat, eau, air) par le biais d'Internet a entrainé un besoin de standardisation des approches de découverte, visualisation et accès des données de mesure et d'observation. De plus, l'apport des applications à l'endroit des utilisateurs occasionnels (néo-géographie, Google Earth, applications composites ou mashups, etc.) sert de façon importante de levier pour les données émanant d'instruments tels que les senseurs in-situ . L'activité reliée au SensorWeb Enablement du Open GeoSpatial Consortium (OGC) a pour but de définir une suite de standards qui s'appliquent aux senseurs et aux phénomènes qu'ils mesurent et qui incluent: * descriptions des stations * encodage des sites de données * alerte et mission / faisabilité de planification Récemment, dans le cadre du programme des innovations dirigées de GéoConnexions, Compusult a complété le projet de SensorBay, lequel fournit un portail communautaire pour la Placentia Bay dans la province de Terre-Neuve et du Labrador. GéoConnexions tiendra une séance Internet pour présenter les résultats de ce projet: Quand: Le vendredi 13 juin, 10:00-12:00 HAE Accès Internet/Téléphonique: Contactez David Sampson à [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lien vers la description du projet (en anglais seulement): http://www.sensorbay.ca/ Cette présentation (en anglais) fournira un aperçu du OGC SensorWeb et une démonstration / discussion du projet SensorBay comme portail communautaire contribuant à l'ICDG. Agenda: - Introduction - Intro et aperçu du OGC SensorWeb - Projet SensorBay - Aperçu - Démonstration du projet - Développement courant et plans futurs - Autres projets et initiatives basés sur SensorBay - Discussion -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2007 Videos
Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: I was recently reminded about videos for last years FOSS4G event. The only videos we have are from the opening and closing plenary sessions and they've been posted online for a while: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57493 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57938 They are pretty good quality, though there is some sound clipping and you can't see the actual slides, only the speaker. I've created a wiki page for FOSS4G2007 Video and Photos: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2007_Video_and_Photos I added some notes that may help people to get the videos to play properly. Maybe someone wants to create a Table of Contents (that includes the timecode for each section) for each video and put it on this page ? -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: scale of FOSS projects
Gilberto Camara wrote: (c) Many innovations are produced at academic institutions. Most of those institutions have no incentive nor mission to support open-source development projects. Taking these innovations out of academia and giving them institutional support (private or public) is a way to ensuring these innovations are exposed to the market. Those with real value will survive. Some academic institutions have programs that help develop support for innovations, such as the University-Industry Liaison Office at the University of British Columbia: http://www.uilo.ubc.ca/about_mission.asp To help evangelize OS, one of the useful elements is 'use cases', to show prospective users of OS software why/how they can make use of the various OS software relevant to their needs. Perhaps people can also develop 'use cases' to show academic institutions the value of assisting innovation to flourish in an OS environment, without necessarily focusing on patents and building wealth. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] IMTA Global Conference Trade Show 2008
Is there any plan for OSGeo to have a presence at the IMTA Global Conference Trade Show 2008, Sept 14-16, in Vancouver BC? http://www.maptrade.org/events/displayevent.php?id=87 -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library
Ari Jolma wrote: Markus Neteler kirjoitti: Dear OSGeo, I would like to launch the idea of an OSGeo Cartographic Library 3) a mechanism to allow plugins that add legends etc. on the map 3) is rather straight-forward Actually, dealing with the legend, or the contents of the entire map collar, is non-trivial, however, a library that can render the content within a map's neat line has all the tools necessary to be able to render the map's collar. The difference may be that there would need to be some additional functionality, or different methods of calling the same underlying functionality, in order to make the tasks involved in composing the collar easy. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Job offers moderation
Mateusz Loskot wrote: Hi, We have [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] mailing list dedicated to post job offers by companies looking for FOSS/GIS specialists. The list is moderated. We've talked with Lorenzo a bit about what should the moderation process look like. What criteria should we use to accept or not a job posting. So, we've decided to ask the Community. Should we assume the list is only for job offers in GIS field *and* related to Free and Open Source Software market? Or, we should accept offers to GIS specialists but not related to FOSS? I believe it's quite important to define moderation rules. I'd suggest that the number one moderation job is to try and make sure the job offers are real, and not just people fishing for talent, or 'free consulting', etc. Perhaps a requirement of a web presence for the company making the offer, including their own 'employment' webpage, along with perhaps a (unpublished?) contact phone number that can be used by the moderators. As far as jobs not related to FOSS, it could be argued that they should be there, as a way for FOSS evangelists to 'infiltrate the other side' ;-) One option might be to have two categories of postings, where non-FOSS-related postings are limited to a single paragraph and link to a more detail job posting on the company's website, whereas job postings that include a FOSS component (even if not Geospatially related?) can be multiple paragraphs. -- Dave Patton System Developer National Forest Inventory Pacific Forestry Centre Natural Resources Canada Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2007 Workshops/Labs Evaluations available
The evaluations for the FOSS4G2007 Workshops and Labs, including the tabulated results, are now available via the OSGeo wiki: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_Workshop/Lab_Evaluations P.S. A big thanks to Bob Bruce for all his help with the evaluations tabulations. P.P.S. If anyone is inclined to want to work on the task of transcribing the written comments for questions 10 and 11 on the evaluation forms, please do so by self-organizing via this mailing list. -- Dave Patton System Developer National Forest Inventory Pacific Forestry Centre Natural Resources Canada Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Obfuscation of data around 7.22n, -71.12W, no sources exist???
Wilfred L. Guerin wrote: I am driven to ask this to the community, since there is absolutely no coherent data sets from any source we've found over many years, including the local governments, for the area around 7.12N,-71.22W and eastward to the -71.22W lattitude southward and a 50-100km radius. Last week, I was notified by a student that a google map query for 7.22n,-71.12w or any derivative resolved to a place called SPY HILL, Sasquachegan, Canada and a specific selection of roads there. It's The Village of Spy Hill, Saskatchewan, Canada: http://vila.sasktelwebsite.net/ The reason your student got this result is because a search for 7.12N,-71.22W gets interpreted as a request to find an Address, not a latitude/longitude pair, and if you have 'the right map' displayed in Google Maps, it finds the address '12' on Highway 22 in The Village of Spy Hill. Load the Google Maps page, and before doing the search, zoom out so the whole world is shown on the map, and you get different results(i.e. addresses in Hungary, Poland, etc.). If you formulate the search 'properly'(there are a number of forms to use to do this, including +7° 7' 12, -71° 13' 12, 7.12N,71.22W, etc) Google Maps will show the proper location. -- Dave Patton System Developer National Forest Inventory Pacific Forestry Centre Natural Resources Canada Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Canadian Chapter (call for interested individuals)
Dave Sampson wrote: Calling all Canucks, Over at the Ottawa Chapter there has been a gaggle of discussions concerning chapters and OSGEO activity in Canada. This is where I present the concept of the Canadian chapter of OSGEO. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canada Being 4 weeks + 1 day away from the initial meeting of people interested in the formation of an OSGeo BC Chapter, my initial opinion is that this is 'too early'. I think a 'national chapter' would be better formed once there are 'at least a few' local chapters. On the other hand, maybe I have it backwards - in 4 weeks, maybe it will be clear to the 'BC chapter' that we should be forming a regional chapter within the 'OSGeo Canadian National Chapter'. P.S. Of course we all know that we wouldn't want to fall into 'the same old pattern', so a national chapter would be based 'out west', not in 'the center of Canada' ;-) -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Evaluations
Cameron Shorter wrote: Comments noted. As I'm helping put in a bid for FOSS09 in Sydney, I'm keen to see the results of your evaluation analysis, but am daunted by the prospect of reading 700 scanned forms. Tabulated results + list of comments would certainly be of interest. When do you expect to have this information? I'm hoping we can see it before our draft version of our bid is finished in around a month. It will be more like 778 scanned pages, but I've sorted each set of forms so that when you read a Workshop's or Lab's PDF, all the pages with comments are at the front. So, once we also have tabulations of the results, you don't have to read every page to read all the comments. Maybe only as few as 400 pages? ;-) We don't yet have a plan to transcribe the comments on the forms into some sort of 'list'. As for the timing, the scanning will be done in about a week. I don't know how long it will take before we have the results tabulated. Workshop/Lab Instructors may be provided access to the PDFs before the results are tabulated. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Supporting new projects
Paul Spencer wrote: I'd like to open a discussion on how OSGeo is (or is not) supporting brand new projects. While at the FOSS4G 2007 conference (awesome job Paul R. and gang), a number of new people (new to the conference and/or to me) approached me to demonstrate their particular projects and ask how to make them Open Source. Our current incubation process favours established projects, For folks already established in OS and OSGeo, we have established communities around ourselves that can be used to attract people to new projects that we are spawning - Fusion, for instance. For others, though, there is no such place to launch a new project and to try to build the community of users and developers required to build a project. They have no clue where to start. What do others think about this? Should OSGeo be in the business of helping new OSGeo projects get off the ground? I was away after FOSS4G2007 ended, and have just now read through all the responses in this thread. If you read Paul's original email, or the above condensed version, I think many of the responses make sense, including the creation of the Labs wiki page. However, I'm not sure the issue has been properly addressed. They have no clue where to start. That's in the same paragraph where 'community' is mentioned more than once. In a reply to Howard's email, Paul said: What I am concerned with is people who have a great idea but don't know what to do with it, or how one goes about establishing a viable community. The people that I spoke with last week didn't know how to get started. I think the answer to someone who doesn't know where to start should be Join the OSGeo community - here's how to do that Maybe there should be a new wiki page that such people can be pointed to. That page, and the existing Labs wiki page, should both be in the same wiki Category. The new page could certainly reference the Labs page, as some people may be part of a project community that wants to move towards incubation, but I didn't get the sense from Paul's original email that is necessarily where some of the people he spoke to should be starting. They maybe just need to join OSGeo, and this mailing list, introduce themselves and their idea/project, and ask the existing community what their next step(s) should be. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed
Tim Bowden wrote: I believe the integration test bed didn't go quite as well as planned. Any thoughts as to why, and what could be done next time to improve the experience? First, a bit of background. -- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase The original idea of the FOSS4G2007 Integration Showcase was that Sponsors and Exhibitors would cooperate to build a set of data and services, running on various platforms, that would show the integration at work. Each Sponsor/Exhibitor would have 'the Showcase Diagram' in their booth, but with highlights showing where their products/services/data fit into the overall Showcase. Refractions bootstrapped this process by providing a server, and, after some data was loaded and a PostGIS database setup, making it available on the Internet. The original plan was to use data from a variety of sources, but due to some issues with licensing, it was decided to go with the OSGeo Public Geospatial Data Committee's idea and use only publicly available geodata. Data from some Canadian sources was loaded onto the Refractions server. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata There was a plan at one point for the Integration Showcase data/services to be made available for use by Workshop/Lab Instructors for use in their classes, but that was dropped due to performance concerns. As Tim noted, the Integration Showcase didn't move much beyond the initial server/data. -- The future. == Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a discussion with Justin and Chris Holmes, about the Integration Showcase. What came out of that was an idea of 'how to do it better in the future'. I then had subsequent discussions with some other people at the conference about this idea. Here is my interpretation of the general outline of what was discussed. The showcase consists of data and the products needed to process that data and make it available in a variety of ways. All OSGeo projects must contribute to the showcase, and keep maintaining their portion of the showcase. The showcase would initially be built using some known set of data. Preparation before FOSS4G might include adapting the showcase to use a set of 'local data'. OSGeo local chapters might also produce sets of 'local data' for use with the showcase. The building of 'the showcase' should be done by OSGeo, not as part of the preparation for a particular conference. There may be multiple 'versions' of the showcase over time, but there should be a stable version well in advance of FOSS4G. Each FOSS4G conference should have a 'track' that consists of starting with the data and working through the processing of that data and installation configuration of all the showcase software. Because the showcase was already built before the conference, this 'track' can be setup as a set of distinct 'modules'. That provides the flexibility for different students to attend different parts of the 'track', as well as being able to start each module with a known working setup. Workshop/Lab Instructors, Presenters, Sponsors, and Exhibitors would be encouraged to make use of the showcase's capabilities. The showcase should be made available in various 'formats'. That might include having a version always running on the telascience servers, and having a LiveCD/DVD version available for download. A showcase such as this, along with some 'marketing materials', could be used by OSGeo evangelists in their activities. == -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal Software Translation Portal
Markus Neteler wrote: Hi, as you may know, some of the OSGeo software projects come with translated messages. E.g. GRASS has been translated (partially) into more than 10 languages. We (GRASS) have a dedicated mailing list for this and a translation manager who takes care of synchronization, update and message standardization. So far - so nice. But. We could gain more translators with a Web based solution (think rainy day and you just want to translate 10 messages and don't want to mess around with .po files from CVS and so forth). Making use of the Translation Project might open the door to the existing pool of translators who are already used to working with .po files because they are already working on translations in many languages for many projects. http://translationproject.org/html/welcome.html -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is there an Open Source software applicationthatwill draw a graticule on a map?
Brent Fraser wrote: So to focus my investigation I started the week with a question: Using the Canadian federal government CanVec topographic vectors, how close to creating a printed National Topographic Map could I get using an Open Source GUI-based desktop GIS application? The answers: From a programmer:Pretty close. Look, the contours are brown! From a cartographer: Not close at all. Where's the graticule?! (no offense meant to programmers or cartographers!) If you want to focus other people on your problem, why not point them to some free public data that illustrates the issues? Pick a Canadian NTS mapsheet, and give them the URIs to: - the CanMatrix product (a raster image made by scanning the front of the paper Canadian topo maps) - the CanVec Canadian National Topographic Database data that you want to use to produce 'the same' map P.S. You and I both know that the result of using that CanVec data won't exactly be the same as the CanMatrix product, but at least it will be a concrete example that people can use to 'get their hands dirty'. If people think they have a solution, they can even buy the actual paper map, and print their map made from the vector data, at the same size, and compare. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity
Sean Gillies wrote: Dave Patton wrote: The actual dollar number that you come up with will depend on various factors, but you can argue that both the 500+ registrants for the conference, and the conference's Sponsors/Exhibitors are all contributing financially to OSGeo. I'm contributing financially to OSGeo? How much? I don't remember reading anywhere on the conference website that the event is about OSGeo revenue. Well, I didn't say it was about OSGeo revenue :-) FOSS4G is presented annually by the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). There is of course a difference between gross revenue and net revenue for something like a conference, where there a lots of expenses, however, if the gross revenue is shown on the OSGeo balance sheet, it can help make the case that Autodesk isn't the only significant source of revenue, even if the end result of the conference is that it is 'revenue neutral'[1]. [1] http://www.osgeo.org/files/conference/osgeo-conference-2007-request-for-proposal.pdf OSGeo may also be in a position to provide some bridge funding and take on liability for conference shortfalls should attendance fall short. It is, however, intended that the conference be essentially revenue neutral after completion. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity
Howard Butler wrote: Most of OSGeo's measurable successes to date have been volunteer efforts, not primarily financially-backed ones. The OSGeo Journal effort, Google Summer of Code administration, the Geodata committee's efforts, and even much of our system administration to keep the lights on for developer tools like Subversion/Trac have been volunteer enterprises (please help flesh out this list, these are only those I am most aware of, I know there have been many others). However, I think financial resources, both in the capacity to generate sponsorship money and the ability to spend it wisely, are what provides the opportunity to set OSGeo apart and provide the volunteerism leverage. When Autodesk came in and helped bootstrap OSGeo, it was fairly clear that our financial existence would not be an indefinite expenditure -- we would have to exist on our own. Additionally, to meet 503c3 requirements, we cannot have a situation where we have a majority benefactor as we do now. We're almost two years down the road into bootstrapping, and our majority benefactor situation has budged very little. As far as I know, our only significant incoming sponsorship dollars beyond Autodesk are the targeted development vehicles like those that pay for a permanent maintainer for GDAL. There has certainly been a lot of volunteer effort by the organizers of the FOSS4G 2007 conference, and the efforts of those volunteers will continue through to the end of the conference, when the ball gets picked up by the organizers of next year's conference. The actual dollar number that you come up with will depend on various factors, but you can argue that both the 500+ registrants for the conference, and the conference's Sponsors/Exhibitors are all contributing financially to OSGeo. The Sponsors presumably wouldn't be spending money on the conference if they didn't see value for their companies. Maybe it's an opportunity for the new board to frame some questions at their meeting the day before the conference, and to ask those questions of Sponsors during the conference, to try and facilitate future opportunities for OSGeo sponsorship by a variety of corporations, in a variety of ways. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Geographic Diversity
P Kishor wrote: I believe pegging Board-membership to geography is a good thing I also believe that while one can contribute as much while being an ordinary member as opposed to a charter or a Board member (I became a charter member only a couple of months ago), Board membership could be an important label to find local support. After all, if there were no difference then why even have these different labels? When one is going around drumming up support, having a position carries a heft. Perhaps there is some resistance to artificially creating a geographically diverse Board, but who say that is the only option? There could be OSGeo Regional Representatives, who are elected, and who, by definition, represent specific geographic regions, without those people necessarily also being board members. They could have an advisory role to the Board. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election Results
Frank Warmerdam wrote: Alternatively, the topic could be discussed at the AGM at FOSS4G (planned for late on the Monday I believe). I can't seem to find a wiki page about the AGM, though I think one exists. All OSGeo wiki pages related to FOSS4G2007 can be found by use of the FOSS4G2007 Category wiki page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Category:FOSS4G2007 The OSGeo AGM wiki page is: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/AGM_2007 -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] wiki Categories
When creating pages on the OSGeo wiki, in some cases it helps if you make sure to include the page in a Category. If a page is in a Category, it will be shown at the bottom of the wiki page. For example, for the FOSS4G2007 conference, there are a number of wiki pages, and they are all listed on the Category:FOSS4G2007 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Category:FOSS4G2007 If you are creating a wiki page that relates to the FOSS4G2007 conference, just add this line to the page: [[Category:FOSS4G2007]] A page can be in more than one Category. For example, the FOSS4G2007 OSGeo Booth page is in both the FOSS4G2007 and Events categories, because it has these two lines: [[Category:FOSS4G2007]] [[Category:Events]] If you know of any wiki pages that relate to the FOSS4G2007 conference, and aren't listed here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Category:FOSS4G2007 please edit the page to add [[Category:FOSS4G2007]] Also, the same applies for pages related to the 2006 conference that aren't listed here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Category:FOSS4G2006 (they will need [[Category:FOSS4G2006]]) -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Localization issues
Jeroen Ticheler wrote: Hi all, In GeoNetwork opensource we deal with localization in a pretty trivial manner. With the expanding number of languages it becomes more problematic to keep all language files synchronized. - I've been looking at gettext format You might want to join the Translation-i18n mailing list: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/translation-i18n The gettext maintainer(Bruno Haible) as well as other knowledgeable people are on that list, including the people who have 'revived' and are now managing the Translation Project: http://translationproject.org/ -- Dave Patton Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website - Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo education outreach at FOSS4G2007
Has there been any discussion, by the OSGeo Education Committee or elsewhere, about doing any education outreach in conjunction with the FOSS4G2007 conference in Victoria? In particular, I had the idea that on Friday September 28, 2007, there may be the possibility for people who attended the conference to do some outreach. Looking at the minutes of the last Education Committee meeting, I see mention of post-secondary education, but I wonder if there exists the possibility of educational opportunities for Victoria K-12 schools(OK, maybe K is a bit young, but you get my point :-) -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO OGC spec development
Landon Blake wrote: It appears that some of my concerns about problems with OGC membership remain in place. I'm disappointed to learn that non-members are no longer allowed to join in the discussion. The individual membership option also presents challenges for some open source developers I imagine this could also present some problems for some of our OSGeo members. In the end, I think the OSGeo membership system is far superior to the one at the OGC. It is based on participation and qualifications, not on money. Perhaps the OSGeo could approach the OGC about some form of alternative membership system for open source projects. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER Groucho Marx The one thing you can say about OGC membership, which requires money, is that all the members are qualified, because they paid their money. Of course having money, in and of itself, in no way qualifies anyone to participate in 'standards development'. By the same token, membership in OSGeo, in and of itself, in no way qualifies anyone to participate in 'standards development'. Whether or not OSGeo should become a member of OGC is a matter for discussion by OSGeo members and members of the public, and ultimately a decision by the OSGeo board. Whatever the decision, that shouldn't lessen the advocacy for 'reasonable and practical standards' by people who may be both OSGeo and OGC members. -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software Standards - The Ugly Truth
Blammo wrote: I'm not sure what to do about the monetary aspects of the Standards participation. What is needed is the equivalent of an angel investor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investors By that what I mean is a corporate entity that will step forward and setup a model where money that would otherwise be spent on memberships in standards bodies, etc., is put into a business model whereby the money funds things like infrastructure, grants to individuals or companies to provide resources to work on reference implementations of standards, legal fees to make sure that nobody can monopolize the results of the process, etc. Such corporate entities have to be forward thinking, and can gain competitive advantages in terms of good will, being involved with a wide spectrum of development and intellectual talent, and maybe even attracting some 'anti-establishment types' to work for 'their team' ;-) -- Dave Patton Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website - Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Canadian Government provides more free data access
http://www.geogratis.ca/geogratis/en/whatsnew.html April 2, 2007 - In response to demands from users for no fee access to framework geographic data and the increasing technological shift in the marketplace, Natural Resources Canada (NRCan), is pleased to announce that starting April 1st 2007, the Earth Sciences Sector (ESS) will change the way its Digital Topographic Data (DTD) can be accessed. On April 1st, 2007, NRCan will start to make its existing DTD products available through the Geogratis Web portal (http://www.geogratis.ca). By combining the functionality from the current On line Purchasing and Subscribers Web sites, the user will be provided with no fee access to DTD products. Under the new distribution policy, commercial licenses will no longer be required, as all users will obtain rights for unlimited use and royalty free distribution of the data through a single unrestricted use license agreement. NRCan is pleased to expand no fee access to its collection of digital topographic data products. After extensive consultations with other federal agencies and stakeholders, followed by the development of supporting technical systems, NRCan has begun the transition to this new approach to data access. We recognize the importance of providing geospatial information to Canadians to enable users to customize applications which benefit from integrated geographic information. We are keeping pace with advances in all areas of mapping to ensure that everyone can benefit from no fee topographic data through the use of cutting edge technology. Through our ongoing partnerships with stakeholders, we will continue to develop our topographic products to meet the needs of Canadian groups and individuals in the private sector, academia and government. -- Dave Patton Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website - Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Geodata] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Promoting freely available geodata
Jason Birch wrote: I'm sure that most of you have seen this, but these two free data resources (provincial and federal Canadian governements) are both employing a form of copyleft: Kamloops (Canadian municipality) takes an interesting approach. Given the interest, maybe the 'OSGeo people' who are already involved could organize a BOF session, and also do some presentations. If there are 'local' resources such as Canadian municipal/provincial/federal managers(or perhaps even better, people from their legal departments) who could attend, then perhaps they could also participate in the BOF/presentations. Also, maybe there are lawyers who are local(e.g. Victoria or BC) any who have some interest or expertise who could attend - even if their perspective is based on Canadian law, it might still help illuminate the discussions. -- Dave Patton Canadian Coordinator, Degree Confluence Project http://www.confluence.org/ Personal website - Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
