[slim] AlienBBC Problem

[Jeremy Baynham]

OK, can hear the stream, trace is now:
>>>
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7451 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from 
playout-play
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7478 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 New play mode: stop
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7506 Stopping and clearing out old chunks for client 
db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7670 Resetting song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7689 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-08 07:46:56.7844 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Current playmode: stop
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8005 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8023 Song queue is now 0,0
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8381 Trying to open protocol stream for 
mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8402 Looking for handler for protocol mms
2005-04-08 07:46:56.8420 Found handler for protocol mms
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1117 checking formats for: wma-aif-*-*
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1149 Checking to see if wma-aif-*-* is enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1164enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1219 checking formats for: wma-wav-*-*
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1237 Checking to see if wma-wav-*-* is enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1253enabled
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1267   Found command: [wmadec] -r 44100 -b 16 -n 2 
$FILE$
2005-04-08 07:46:57.1437 Matched Format: wav Type: wma Command: [wmadec] 
-r 44100 -b 16 -n 2 $FILE$
2005-04-08 07:46:57.2543 Backtrace:

  frame 0: Slim::Utils::Prefs::clientGet 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Protocols/MMS.pm line 43)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Protocols::MMS::new 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 1844)
  frame 2: Slim::Player::Source::openRemoteStream 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 477)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::readList (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm 
line 207)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 147)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 943)
  frame 6: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm 
line 662)
  frame 7: Slim::Web::HTTP::processURL (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm line 530)
  frame 8: Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Networking/Select.pm line 115)
  frame 9: Slim::Networking::Select::select (slimserver.pl line 619)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)

2005-04-08 07:46:57.2584 Using command for conversion: "C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\wmadec.exe" -r 
44100 -b 16 -n 2 "mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi"
2005-04-08 07:46:57.2838 Launching process with command: "C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\socketwrapper.exe" 
-o 4440 -c "\"C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\wmadec.exe\" -r 
44100 -b 16 -n 2 \"mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi\""
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9090 Backtrace:

  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 730)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 1684)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::load_done 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 459)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_done 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 362)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scheduler.pm line 95)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scheduler::run_tasks (slimserver.pl line 603)
  frame 6: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 7: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 8: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 9: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)

2005-04-08 07:46:57.9119 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from stop
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9137  Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9155 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9173 Clearing out song queue first
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9192 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9213 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 760)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 1684)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::load_done 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 459)
  frame 3: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_done 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scan.pm line 362)
  frame 4: Slim::Utils::Scan::addToList_run 
(/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Scheduler.pm line 95)
  frame 5: Slim::Utils::Scheduler::run_tasks (slimserver.pl line 603)
  frame 6: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 7: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 8: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 9: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)

2005-04-08 07:46:57.9243 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play from stop
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9325 openSong on: mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9345 URL is remote : mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9919 Trying to open protocol stream for 
mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9938 Looking for handler for protocol mms
2005-04-08 07:46:57.9956 Found handler for pro

[slim] Squeezebox2, Universal Remote and Me

[David Lutz]

My Squeezebox2 recently arrived and to celebrate I went out and got a
Universal Remote (Sony RM-VL700S) to control both the Squeezebox2 and my
amp/receiver.  I carefully followed the directions that came with the
remote to set the DVD key to be a JVC DVD, verified in the player
settings that I had both Slim_Devices_Remote and jvc_dvd boxes checked,
pointed the remote at my Squeezebox2 and started clicking.  Nothing
happened.  I have turned on the d_ir, d_irtms and d_slimproto debugging
flags.  When I use the included remote I see the irCode come through the
logs and I even see the IR packets logged by d_slimproto, using the
universal remote, I get nothing.  No IR packets logged by d_slimproto or
irCodes logged by d_ir.  I am trying to figure out if this is a problem
with me, the new remote or squeezebox2 (at the moment I figure they are
all equally likely).  I am currently using v6.0.1 with firmware 9, but I
saw the same thing last night with v6.0 and firmware 8.

Has anybody else seen this behavior?  Is anybody else trying to use a
JVC DVD remote (or other universal remote) to control their squeezebox2?

This particular remote is a learning remote and I have been able to
train it to mimic the included remote so I can get full functionality,
but I am lacking a bit of extra convienence I was hoping for.  I would
like to be able to hack the .ir file a bit and add a bit more
functionality for some of the  extra keys on the remote, but it looks
like the squeezebox is carefully hording the IR codes and only passing
the slim devices ones on to the server.

D.L.
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Re: [slim] SB1 buffer size

[Phil Karn]

Sean Adams wrote:
When I started designing the Squeezebox1 hardware in 2002, I fully 
realized that an enormous buffer would be desirable. However, the 
architecture (which was chosen based on a long list of goals including 
ethernet/wireless capability, ability to drive a graphic VFD, OS 
performance, etc) unfortunately did not have an SDRAM interface, only 
SRAM, which meant that a very large (several MB) buffer would not be 
possible. Dean and I did a great deal of testing and never saw any 
problems on wired ethernet under any OS. On wireless networks there were 
some issues at first, which were quickly eliminated, most of them 
anyway, with some careful tuning of the TCP stack.
I understand your design constraints. Memory is nice, but it can also be 
expensive and you don't want your box costing more than it really has 
to. That's quite reasonable.

What we found was that in the real world there were still a few 
problems. I spent many weeks studying packet dumps and optimizing TCP 
(http://www.seanadams.com/ip2k), testing on Windows, Mac, and Linux, 
getting feedback from customers, and making improvements.
Yup. Many stacks do have glitches, although I think the later Linux 
stacks behave very well, especially when the entire path is just a few 
high speed Ethernet hubs. A bigger issue, I think, are the OS and disk 
scheduling algorithms.

It is no secret that a bigger buffer would be nice - in fact I think 
this request has been in our public bug database since its inception. 
Unfortunately the only way we can make the buffer larger is to make new 
hardware with a larger buffer, which is exactly what we've done. 
Optimizing streaming performance is still an active goal.
But I don't think that buffer *has* to be huge. If it does, then that's 
a symptom of brokenness someplace else, specifically in the server and 
the way it is treated by the operating system on which it runs.

PCM streaming on Squeezebox1, even with its 256K buffer capacity, works 
as advertised in nearly all environments, unlike my car which can only 
reach its advertised top speed on less than 0.01% of the road surface in 
the USA. I realize this is a retarded analogy and not a kind response 
but consider this: we are more open than any hardware company (that I 
know of) in terms of admitting where there's room for improvement 
(bugs.slimdevices.com). We view this information not as a liability, but 
as priceless guidance in how to make our products better.
Um, I assume you didn't mean that as a serious analogy! A better analogy 
would be to the per-mile probability of my car suddenly and without 
warning, seizing up and stopping dead in the middle of the freeway. 
Then, after a few seconds, the tires screech and it suddenly lurches 
back up to 65 mph just as unexpectedly. :-)

Certain issues are simply not addressable in software (802.11g support, 
as another example). For those issues we develop new hardware.
Understood. Since you advertised those hardware limitations, I can't 
complain. Your transcoding scheme to optionally limit the network bit 
rate to something it can support was a very nice touch.

Finally, as protection we provide a 30-day no questions asked return 
period. If the product doesn't work the way you want it to, or even if 
you just have a change of heart for some reason, we'll take it back.
Well, that's problematical when the problem is in software, not 
hardware. Again, I have no complaints about the Squeezebox hardware, 
either version 1 or version 2. If the hardware were broken, mis designed 
or otherwise unusable, then it would be easy to decide to return it in 
the 30 day period.

But the hardware is all fine; all of the problems I've encountered have 
been in server software, and that makes returning the unit a much harder 
call. You never know whether a given problem that you consider really 
serious will be fixed tomorrow or next week or next month or next year. 
Believing strongly as I do in the power of open source, I have decided 
to keep all three Squeezeboxes and wait for the software to improve. And 
that can be frustrating. Yes, I could roll up my sleeves and jump in and 
hack the code myself, but the Slimserver package is already a very large 
chunk of code that presents a dauntingly steep learning curve to anyone 
who wants to modify it. Confronted by it, I'd be strongly tempted to 
start over from scratch, or by adapting existing, mature mechanisms that 
I already know to work well (e.g., adapting the standard printer 
spooling system to manage queues and play lists for a Squeezebox.)

I don't know what else to say - we vastly improved PCM streaming 
performance by adding a huge buffer, adding 802.11g wireles support, and 
adding lossless compression. At the same time we added a whole slew of 
features in SlimServer 6 which improve SLIMP3, a product which we began 
selling out of my garage in 2001, and of which we have not sold a single 
unit since 2003. I realize that these are not huge time

RE: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[slim]

Thought it must be something like that - thanks! 

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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.


On Windows, SlimServer is packaged as an executable that bundles the Perl
packages that we use. To make source modifications, you need to have an
ActiveState Perl installation
(http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) and will need to run the
server via the slimserver.pl script.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>OK, I thought I'd have a go at playing with the vis settings, but I 
>must be doing something dumb. I've tried editing the 
>slim/player/squeezebox2.pm file, but it's not having any effect. Do I 
>need to do anything other than restart the server after an edit? I'm 
>guessing that there's a deployment step I'm missing somewhere (I'm new 
>to slimserver development). BTW - running on XP.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Apparao
>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:50 AM
>To: Slim Devices Discussion
>Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.
>
>depeche wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Display:
>>A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK.  Normally you 
>>have low ---> high freq.
>>or
>>Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>The visualizers are configurable from the server, though we haven't yet 
>created a UI for this. If you're feeling particularly bold, you can 
>modify the configuration parameters in the server source. The 
>parameters for the right-side visualizer in the Now Playing modes are 
>in Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm and those for the full-screen visualizers 
>are in Plugins/Visualizer.pm. The configuration parameters (including 
>position, orientation, bandwidth, etc.) are documented in the first file.
>
>The spectrum analyzer is implemented using a simple fixed-point FFT 
>with a Hamming window applied to the signal. Since most real-world 
>audio has considerably more power in the lower frequency bands, one of 
>the configurable parameters is a preemphasis value applied to the 
>frequency bins after the FFT (effectively a multiplier for the higher 
>frequency
>bins) - the value is specified in dB/KHz.
>
>I've spent a little bit of time playing with the parameters to get 
>something that looks reasonably good (and that's the eventual goal, 
>right?). If anyone, ideally someone with a better aesthetic sense than 
>I, is interested in experimenting and coming up with better parameters, 
>or even a UI for users to configure their own parameters, I'd welcome the
changes.
>
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Re: [slim] SqueezeNetwork dumb question

[Michael Herger]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:49:11 -0500, David McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

How do you connect to the SqueezeNetwork with Squeezebox2, or where can I
find some help files
The SqueezeNetwork is not available, yet.
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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Vidur Apparao]

On Windows, SlimServer is packaged as an executable that bundles the 
Perl packages that we use. To make source modifications, you need to 
have an ActiveState Perl installation 
(http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/) and will need to run 
the server via the slimserver.pl script.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I thought I'd have a go at playing with the vis settings, but I must be
doing something dumb. I've tried editing the slim/player/squeezebox2.pm
file, but it's not having any effect. Do I need to do anything other than
restart the server after an edit? I'm guessing that there's a deployment
step I'm missing somewhere (I'm new to slimserver development). BTW -
running on XP. 

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:50 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.
depeche wrote:
 

Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK.  Normally you 
have low ---> high freq.
or
Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)

   

The visualizers are configurable from the server, though we haven't yet
created a UI for this. If you're feeling particularly bold, you can modify
the configuration parameters in the server source. The parameters for the
right-side visualizer in the Now Playing modes are in
Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm and those for the full-screen visualizers are in
Plugins/Visualizer.pm. The configuration parameters (including position,
orientation, bandwidth, etc.) are documented in the first file.
The spectrum analyzer is implemented using a simple fixed-point FFT with a
Hamming window applied to the signal. Since most real-world audio has
considerably more power in the lower frequency bands, one of the
configurable parameters is a preemphasis value applied to the frequency bins
after the FFT (effectively a multiplier for the higher frequency
bins) - the value is specified in dB/KHz.
I've spent a little bit of time playing with the parameters to get something
that looks reasonably good (and that's the eventual goal, right?). If
anyone, ideally someone with a better aesthetic sense than I, is interested
in experimenting and coming up with better parameters, or even a UI for
users to configure their own parameters, I'd welcome the changes.
--Vidur
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RE: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[slim]

OK, I thought I'd have a go at playing with the vis settings, but I must be
doing something dumb. I've tried editing the slim/player/squeezebox2.pm
file, but it's not having any effect. Do I need to do anything other than
restart the server after an edit? I'm guessing that there's a deployment
step I'm missing somewhere (I'm new to slimserver development). BTW -
running on XP. 

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:50 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

depeche wrote:

>Display:
>A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK.  Normally you 
>have low ---> high freq.
>or
>Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)
>  
>
The visualizers are configurable from the server, though we haven't yet
created a UI for this. If you're feeling particularly bold, you can modify
the configuration parameters in the server source. The parameters for the
right-side visualizer in the Now Playing modes are in
Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm and those for the full-screen visualizers are in
Plugins/Visualizer.pm. The configuration parameters (including position,
orientation, bandwidth, etc.) are documented in the first file.

The spectrum analyzer is implemented using a simple fixed-point FFT with a
Hamming window applied to the signal. Since most real-world audio has
considerably more power in the lower frequency bands, one of the
configurable parameters is a preemphasis value applied to the frequency bins
after the FFT (effectively a multiplier for the higher frequency
bins) - the value is specified in dB/KHz.

I've spent a little bit of time playing with the parameters to get something
that looks reasonably good (and that's the eventual goal, right?). If
anyone, ideally someone with a better aesthetic sense than I, is interested
in experimenting and coming up with better parameters, or even a UI for
users to configure their own parameters, I'd welcome the changes.

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[slim] SqueezeNetwork dumb question

[David McDonald]

How do you connect to the SqueezeNetwork with Squeezebox2, or where can I
find some help files 

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[slim] Squeezebox 2 Display Problem Question

[Gerald B. Cox]

I was playing around with the different screen savers and noticed the following.
 On the elapsed time and remaining time bar there is what appears to be two
vertical lines approximately in the middle of the bar - which would seem to be
a marker showing the halfway point.  However when switching to the Digital VU
Meter I notice the same two lines in the same position even though the time bar
is no longer being used.  My question is this a software issue or is my display
defective?  Has anyone else noticed this?  Thanks!

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Re: [slim] Way to check SB2 order status?

[Paul Wisneskey]

Yep, you're definitely not who I was thinking of, since I was talking to 
Jess Askey.  :-)   I told him about my Squeezebox that last time I saw 
on him (at Pinball Expo in Chicago of all places) and he got one soon 
after if I recall.  He's got a new baby and I just wanted to rib him a 
bit.  :-)

- Paul
Jason wrote:
I'm not the Jason you're thinking of.  No new additions in my home.  Thanks
for the kind thoughts though!  ;) 


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Jess Askey wrote:
ahh, thats the ticket. Mine is Platinum. thanks for the 
info. I will 

sleep better tonight knowing it hasn't been in my neighbor's living 
room for the last week. :-)
Jess,
I'm amazed that you're even getting to sleep at all with the 
other new addition to your household!  Need any Sesame Street 
MP3's? ;-)

- Paul

Jason wrote:

The platinum ones appear to be delayed a bit.  I switched mine to 
black and it shipped today.



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Askey
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Subject: [slim] Way to check SB2 order status?

Is there a way for me to find out where in the queue my 
SB2 order is? 

I have my email response from SD with my order number but 
didn't see 

anything about tracking it. Should I just email sales?
thank you.
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Re: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details

[JJ]

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I'd also like to see the sort order as artist/album, or maybe
artist/year/album rather than just by album name.  Ideally there'd be 
some
ability to change the sort order from within the interface.

sorting options for browse artwork is filed under bug 305, if I recall
correctly.
the information currently appears in the tooltips when you move the 
mouse
over the thumbnail. Utilmately, it would be nice to be able to put up 
artwork
alongside the other listings as a thumnail on the left side instead of 
having
its own mode.
Exactly.  I just left a comment under bug (enhancement request) 948.  A 
similar approach to the interface would be to have a checkbox on the home 
page that the user can tick to "Browse with Artwork".  Then any of the 
standard browses would display the thumbnailed page view now used for 
Browse by Artwork (which could be eliminated), otherwise show the table 
view.  If possible the setting should be remembered between visits to the 
server so that it doesn't need to be checked each time.

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Re: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details

[kdf]

Quoting JJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> - Original Message -
> From: "FRANK ZAPPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:12 AM
> Subject: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details
>
>
> > Apologies if this has been mentioned before - am new here; have
> > had a quick look, but have not seen it mentioned. Maybe I've just
> > missed it.
> >
> > When "Browse Artwork" is selected, it does not show any album
> > details under each thumbnail, just "Play" and "Add to playlist".
> >
> > Using SlimServer 6.0.1, on Windows XP WS, as of last night.
> >
> > I may be mistaken, but I'm sure the previous version on the trial
> > box here - 6.0b1 - showed more detail under each thumbnail.
> >
> > Am I dreaming?
>
> I've just begun playing with artwork and browsing by artwork so I have no
> recollection of whether that's how it used to work.  But I do know that it
> _should_ work like this.  The album name and date appear where there's no
> thumbnail shown, but when there _is_ a thumbnail they're not being
> displayed.  There's no way to recognize many albums only by their
> thumbnailed image.
>
> I'd also like to see the sort order as artist/album, or maybe
> artist/year/album rather than just by album name.  Ideally there'd be some
> ability to change the sort order from within the interface.

sorting options for browse artwork is filed under bug 305, if I recall
correctly.

the information currently appears in the tooltips when you move the mouse over
the thumbnail. Utilmately, it would be nice to be able to put up artwork
alongside the other listings as a thumnail on the left side instead of having
its own mode.

-kdf
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RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic and slimserver

[Jim Forsythe]

 Sorry, I meant to include this info.  I am running on Redhat 
 Linux 9.0. The MusicMagic version is 1.1.3.2.  The java 
 version is 1.5.0-2.
 
 Jim

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Sully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 1:24 AM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Re: MusicMagic and slimserver
> 
> 
> * Jim Forsythe shaped the electrons to say...
> 
> >Just got my squeezebox2 last week and have been very 
> impressed with it. 
> >I've been playing with plugins, but have not gotten 
> MusicMagic to work 
> >for some reason.  I can get it talking to the server and to the 
> >squeezebox, and generate a musicmagic playlist by holding 
> down the play 
> >button.  But very soon after that the server locks up.  If 
> you attempt 
> >to refresh the web page or click on any selection, it just 
> sits there. 
> >Meanwhile the squeeze box keeps playing till the buffer runs 
> out, but 
> >is not responsive to the remote.  Any ideas would be appreciated.  
> >Don't know if this is a problem with MusicMagic or slimserver.  I 
> >started with the 6.0-1 server, and have done the last couple 
> of nightly 
> >builds including the 6.1 one.
> 
> Jim - what OS are you running? And what version of Music Magic?
> 
> -D
> -- 
> "A good messenger expects to get shot." --Larry Wall
> 
> 


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Re: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details

[JJ]

- Original Message - 
From: "FRANK ZAPPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:12 AM
Subject: [slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details


Apologies if this has been mentioned before - am new here; have
had a quick look, but have not seen it mentioned. Maybe I've just
missed it.
When "Browse Artwork" is selected, it does not show any album
details under each thumbnail, just "Play" and "Add to playlist".
Using SlimServer 6.0.1, on Windows XP WS, as of last night.
I may be mistaken, but I'm sure the previous version on the trial
box here - 6.0b1 - showed more detail under each thumbnail.
Am I dreaming?
I've just begun playing with artwork and browsing by artwork so I have no 
recollection of whether that's how it used to work.  But I do know that it 
_should_ work like this.  The album name and date appear where there's no 
thumbnail shown, but when there _is_ a thumbnail they're not being 
displayed.  There's no way to recognize many albums only by their 
thumbnailed image.

I'd also like to see the sort order as artist/album, or maybe 
artist/year/album rather than just by album name.  Ideally there'd be some 
ability to change the sort order from within the interface.

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Re: [slim] Re: Artwork problem

[JJ]

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Sully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: [slim] Re: Artwork problem


* JJ shaped the electrons to say...
I've always used the file naming convention of _[album].jpg for album 
covers (and _[album].m3u for playlits).  In Windows Explorer this places 
these files at the top of the folder listing.

So in the Server Settings / Interface I have %_ALBUM specified as the 
alternate artwork file naming convention.  Is this not correct or is 
there some reason it won't work?  The only covers that Slim Server is 
picking up are those named cover.jpg.
This is filed already as bug 
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=952
Comment added.  The problem appears to only be at the Home / Browse 
Artwork page level - the page that displays thumbnail sized images.  At 
the next level the full-sized artwork appears correctly.


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Re: [slim] metadata musings

[michael]

Sean Goller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
>>>I've been futzing with the
>>>internal guts of libmusicbrainz all day, and I have code now that
>>>generates the proper musicbrainz DiscID given an flac-generated (NOT
>>>EAC) cuesheet text file. Now I'm working on turning that into code
>>>that just extracts the cuesheet data from the image itself and
>>>bypasses the whole textfile step.
>>
>> Would you be willing to share what you've put together?  I've been
>> working on the same thing, but so far my calculated DiscID doesn't
>> match the one cdlookup returns.
>
> Certainly. I managed to get a version working that operates directly
> on the flac image. I'll warn you, it's frankensteined all to hell C
> code and doesn't properly deal with byte order issues
> automatically. (the code I'm putting up will work properly out of the
> box on x86) but it gets the job done. It's at
> http://www.goller.net/imageid/imageid.tar.gz

Thanks.  I'll take a look at that and see if it reveal what I've been
doing wrong in mine.

> I think the next step is to use the musicbrainz DiscID object to do
> the generation instead, because I missed that on my first pass through
> the library, and it's easier if musicbrainz maintains that particular
> part of the code instead of me, or whomever. :)

Yeah, I tried to do it by hand myself.  It seemed easy enough from the
description of the process they have up.  Oh well.

>>>So with respect to fetching things from musicbrainz, I'm at
>>>http://musicbrainz.org/cdindex/69WPuFcKSoXA4Trt1kY4tGSg6Vo- here with
>>> my test disc/image. How does that relate to what you're talking
>>> about? Are you talking about the information at:
>>>http://mm.musicbrainz.org/mm-2.1/album/94348021-7c03-4a58-bfcb-ee865f449200
>>>?
>> Essentially, but it needs to go one level of detail deeper than the
>> web page does. (when you're querying their server directly, you can
>> specify how deep to go.) So the result you're looking for in this case
>> would look like the example I've attached.
>>
>
> Could you give me the actual url used to fetch that example? I'm being
> dim I know, but it would help me out. :)

Well, as I said that's the tricky part.  As far as I can tell, there's
not a way to control the query depth through the web interface.
Awhile ago I hacked one of their example programs (getalbum I think)
to spit out the data like what was attached.  The example using your
disc was, well, an example.  I quickly cut-n-pasted it together from
four different web urls. The data's all there, just not in one concise
url. :)

...

> That works. It seems to me that the simplest thing to do for a "new"
> flac image would be to calculate the CDIndexId then fetch the metadata
> from musicbrainz, caching it all in an external source (filesystem or
> db) for future reference and keep the file itself pristine. 

I'm hoping to go one step further and stuff the data into an app
block in the flac itself.  I've done this by hand, and it works.  Now
I just need to put together a tool that takes a flac with a cuesheet,
calculates the id, does the lookup from the server, and stuffs the
results back into the file.  (Then once that's working well, pester the
musicbrainz folks into integrating it into the next version of their
tagger tool.) 
But I can certainly see the appeal of keeping that data in a db
instead/as well.

> This is
> one way of automatically fixing the "outdated tags" problem that users
> of metadata storage sites like musicbrainz have, with no ambiguity. If
> SlimServer refetches the metadata once every N image references (20? 
> 100?) then you're guaranteed to have about as up to date information
> as you're going to get. (without pissing off musicbrainz for eating
> all their bandwidth, that is)
>
> So since all this discussion is in the context of SlimServer, I guess
> the way forward (at least from what I'm interested in) is to use the
> perl module for accessing FLAC internal cuesheets, tie that to either
> a perl binding to the musicbrainz DiscId object (best choice) or a
> separate implementation of CDIndexId generation (reasonable) and then
> use that as a basis for obtaining metadata within the server.

Sounds like a good plan.  Let me know how you progress.

-michael

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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Daryle A. Tilroe]

Sean Adams wrote:
Not comfortable having this done in the field - specialty SMT component 
need replacing and a tweak to the board.
Hey some of us have desoldered a PLCC EEPROM with flux and a heat
gun, put it in a programmer to fix a FUBAR'd flash, and then
reflowed it back on with the same heat gun.  We could handle
it. ;-)  Of course I realize the day after you post the instructions
some twit will start prying things off with a screwdriver or
burn up their PCB and then want a 'warranty' repair.
--
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[slim] Re: SQL

[Dan Sully]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] shaped the electrons to say...
How does one go about reading/writing the DB?
what's the port/username/password?  SQLite?
I'm already running MySQL on my server.. could I
configure slimserver to use my already existing DB?
On the new Wiki - 

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?MySQL
should be enough to get you going.
-D
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[slim] volume-dropping bug

[Jack Coates]

which debug options to diagnose the bug where volume drops between tracks?
Only happens between the 1st and 2nd tracks in a playlist. Playlist 
generated in webui (fishbone) via a sort>by-genre selection. SS6.0.1, a 
slimp3 and a sbg, synchronized; both get their volume dropped from 40 to 7.

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[slim] SQL

[bkfake-forum]

How does one go about reading/writing the DB?
what's the port/username/password?
SQLite?

I'm already running MySQL on my server.. could I
configure slimserver to use my already existing DB?
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[slim] Re: Artwork problem

[Dan Sully]

* JJ shaped the electrons to say...
I've always used the file naming convention of _[album].jpg for album 
covers (and _[album].m3u for playlits).  In Windows Explorer this places 
these files at the top of the folder listing.

So in the Server Settings / Interface I have %_ALBUM specified as the 
alternate artwork file naming convention.  Is this not correct or is there 
some reason it won't work?  The only covers that Slim Server is picking up 
are those named cover.jpg.
This is filed already as bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=952
-D
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Music Match Integration (was RE: [slim] Fishbone Home button problem)

[Steve]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2005 9:45 AM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Near as I can tell, MusicMagic works in Fishbone, EN, Default
>> and Handheld. I am using ver. 6.01 (05-Apr-2005 nightly).
> 
> then i'm still missing something - how do i start a musicmagic mix
> from fishbone?  i've installed the 6.01 alpha but still dont see any
> icons for it 

Here are instructions provided by a Cherise Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Start with Predixis - navigate to File : Customize Options : Services.
Check API.  Leave Music Magic running.

 

Next - Navigate to Slimserver : Server Settings : Plugins - make sure Music
Magic is checked.

 

Navigate to Server Settings : Server Settings - make sure Use MusicMagic is
checked.

 

Set preferences in Server Settings : Music Magic 

 

All should be fine - took me some time and a few nudges to get the order
right.


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Re: [slim] New Music date ordering

[Philip Meyer]

>Enhancement request  #1332 raised.
>
Hmm, someone raised the enhancement before I did (#1330).  I've had a couple 
like this recently where I have searched but not found anything so raised a 
bug, only for it to be set as a duplicate.

It's interesting though, in that I did a search for "new music" before I added 
the enhancement, and #1330 was not reported.  Looking at the timestamps on the 
creation of #1330 and #1332, my bug was raised a whole 2.5 hours after #1330.  
Does it take new bug reports a while to filter through the system before they 
are searchable, or am I searching incorrectly?

Phil

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Re: [slim] Fishbone Home button problem

[Simon Still]

On Apr 6, 2005 9:45 AM, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yes. Near as I can tell, MusicMagic works in Fishbone, EN, Default and
> Handheld. I am using ver. 6.01 (05-Apr-2005 nightly).

then i'm still missing something - how do i start a musicmagic mix
from fishbone?  i've installed the 6.01 alpha but still dont see any
icons for it
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[slim] Gentoo + slimserver 6.0.1 + alienBBC 0.97 works out of the box

[Chris Musson]

There's been many posts of problem combinations of software but I'd like
to report a successful combination that works perfectly:

Gentoo linux (Mostly "x86" but all perl is "~x86") plus slimserver 6.0.1
(tar.gz source version) plus alienBBC 0.97 works "out of the box".

This is to a Squeezebox v1.

Well done to all involved.


Now, when I eventually get my Squeezebox2 from Multitask, it will be
perfect.

Dear Mr Slim Devices.  Please can you send a batch of Squeezebox2 to
Multitask asap?

Ta

Chris Musson

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Re: [slim] AlienBBC Problem

[Triode]

OK - can you prove your installation of slimserver and socketwrapper by proving wma streams work.  [as this should work out of the 
box with slimserver and Alien relies on the same stuff]

paste the flowing into the internet radio web page:
mms://vruk.wm.llnwd.net/vruk_vr_hi
Do you hear anything - what does the debug give?
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremy Baynham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:30 PM
Subject: [slim] AlienBBC Problem


Hi,
The new trace for this is:

2005-04-07 22:25:06.6173 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
730)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1193)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Buttons/Playlist.pm 
line 157)
  frame 3: Slim::Buttons::Playlist::__ANON__ (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
616)
  frame 4: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm 
line 589)
  frame 5: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
640)
  frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
499)
  frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
394)
  frame 8: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 
62)
  frame 9: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (slimserver.pl line 624)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6176 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from stop
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6177  Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6178 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6179 Clearing out song queue first
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6180 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6186 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
760)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1193)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Buttons/Playlist.pm 
line 157)
  frame 3: Slim::Buttons::Playlist::__ANON__ (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
616)
  frame 4: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm 
line 589)
  frame 5: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
640)
  frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
499)
  frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
394)
  frame 8: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 
62)
  frame 9: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (slimserver.pl line 624)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6188 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play from stop
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6207 openSong on: rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6210 URL is remote : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6258 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6260 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6261 Found handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7426 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7430 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7432 undermax = 1, type = rtsp, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7435 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7436 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7437enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7438 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7438 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7439enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7440 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7441 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7442enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7442 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-*
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7443 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7444enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7445   Found command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile 
#DEBUGPIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7468 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7472 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7474 Matched Format: flc Type: rtsp Command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af 
resample=44100

[slim] AlienBBC Problem

[Jeremy Baynham]

Hi,
The new trace for this is:

2005-04-07 22:25:06.6173 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
730)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1193)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Buttons/Playlist.pm 
line 157)
  frame 3: Slim::Buttons::Playlist::__ANON__ (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
616)
  frame 4: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm 
line 589)
  frame 5: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
640)
  frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
499)
  frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
394)
  frame 8: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 
62)
  frame 9: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (slimserver.pl line 624)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6176 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode stop from stop
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6177  Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6178 Adding song index 0 to song queue
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6179 Clearing out song queue first
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6180 Song queue is now 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6186 Backtrace:
  frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/PerlApp/Slim/Player/Source.pm line 
760)
  frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::jumpto (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 
1193)
  frame 2: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Buttons/Playlist.pm 
line 157)
  frame 3: Slim::Buttons::Playlist::__ANON__ (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
616)
  frame 4: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/PerlApp/Slim/Control/Command.pm 
line 589)
  frame 5: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
640)
  frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
499)
  frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/PerlApp/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 
394)
  frame 8: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 
62)
  frame 9: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (slimserver.pl line 624)
  frame 10: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 40)
  frame 11: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 1204)
  frame 12: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0)
  frame 13: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0)
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6188 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play from stop
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6207 openSong on: rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6210 URL is remote : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6258 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6260 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 22:25:06.6261 Found handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7426 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7430 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7432 undermax = 1, type = rtsp, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7435 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7436 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7437enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7438 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7438 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7439enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7440 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7441 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7442enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7442 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-*
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7443 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7444enabled
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7445   Found command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #DEBUGPIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7468 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7472 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.7474 Matched Format: flc Type: rtsp Command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #DEBUGPIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 - 
2005-04-07 22:25:06.8497 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.8502 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 22:25:06.8523 Using command for conversion: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #DEBUGPIPE# "rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/e

Re: [slim] AlienBBC problem

[Triode]

Jermey,
Could you edit slimserver-convert.conf and change the #PIPE# to #DEBUGPIPE#
Then repost output with --d_source --d_remotestream enabled
Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremy Baynham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:08 PM
Subject: [slim] AlienBBC problem


Hi,
I am trying to get AlienBBC 0.97 to work on 6.0.1 on XP (the problem was the same on 0.94 on 6.0 however).  I can manually play 
the streams through mplayer, and I see all the Alien UI in Slimserver but after 2 'Connecting...'s, nothing ever plays. From the 
log I can see an error

readlen undef: (Unknown error)10054
end of file or error on socket, opening next song, (song pos: 0(tell says: . 
0), totalbytes: )
which I've not seen mentioned before in any of the recent threads on Alien 
problems. Any clues out there?
Jeremy

>>>
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3172 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play from stop
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3188 openSong on: rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3190 URL is remote : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3239 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3241 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3242 Found handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4485 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4490 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4491 undermax = 1, type = rtsp, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4495 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4496 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4497enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4497 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4498 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4499enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4500 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4501 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4501enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4502 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4503 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4504enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4505   Found command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile 
#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4528 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4532 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4534 Matched Format: flc Type: rtsp Command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af 
resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 - 2005-04-07 21:02:07.5543 
Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5548 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5570 Using command for conversion: "C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao 
pcm -aofile #PIPE# "rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra"; | "C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5618 Launching process with command: "C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\socketwrapper.exe" -o 1450 -c "\"C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe\" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao 
pcm -aofile #PIPE# \"rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra\"; | \"C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe\" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -"
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5699 remoteURL is a song : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5727 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5731 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5733 undermax = 1, type = flc, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program 
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5736 checking formats for: flc-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5737 Checking to see if flc-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5738enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5739 checking formats for: flc-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5739 Checking to see if flc-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5740enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5741 checking formats for: flc-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5742 Checking to see if flc-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5743 

Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Sean Adams]

Not comfortable having this done in the field - specialty SMT component 
need replacing and a tweak to the board.

On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Richard Elen wrote:
Can this be fixed in the field? You mentioned an "electrical" problem 
- missing grounding link or component? Something simple one could fix 
oneself without (eg international) returns, albeit voiding warranty, 
etc?

--Richard E
Sean Adams wrote:
...this is only an issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss 
of sync. As far as we know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit 
this.
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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Richard Elen]

Can this be fixed in the field? You mentioned an "electrical" problem - 
missing grounding link or component? Something simple one could fix 
oneself without (eg international) returns, albeit voiding warranty, etc?

--Richard E
Sean Adams wrote:
...this is only an 
issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss of sync. As far as we 
know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit this.
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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Sean Adams]

On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Christian Pernegger wrote:
We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax
s/pdif not to sync with a
few receivers - it has been fixed already in production, but some
SB2s that shipped as
recently as Monday will need the fix. If you have a MAC address of
00:04:20:05:A3:FA or
lower, you can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed.
I am not using an external DAC at the moment so I'd rather spare us
both the hassle of sending my unit back to fix it. Does this have to
be done now, or could I have it fixed whenever I decide to upgrade to
a DAC and find I am affected?
Whenever. Optical is totally unaffected by the way, so this is only an 
issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss of sync. As far as we 
know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit this.

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[slim] AlienBBC problem

[Jeremy Baynham]

Hi,
I am trying to get AlienBBC 0.97 to work on 6.0.1 on XP (the problem was 
the same on 0.94 on 6.0 however).  I can manually play the streams 
through mplayer, and I see all the Alien UI in Slimserver but after 2 
'Connecting...'s, nothing ever plays. From the log I can see an error

readlen undef: (Unknown error)10054
end of file or error on socket, opening next song, (song pos: 0(tell says: . 
0), totalbytes: )
which I've not seen mentioned before in any of the recent threads on Alien 
problems. Any clues out there?
Jeremy

>>>
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3172 db:f6:c3:00:8d:48: Switching to mode play from stop
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3188 openSong on: rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3190 URL is remote : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3239 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3241 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 21:02:07.3242 Found handler for protocol rtsp
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4485 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4490 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4491 undermax = 1, type = rtsp, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4495 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4496 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4497enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4497 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4498 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4499enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4500 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4501 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4501enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4502 checking formats for: rtsp-flc-*-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4503 Checking to see if rtsp-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4504enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4505   Found command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4528 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4532 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.4534 Matched Format: flc Type: rtsp Command: [mplayer] -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 - 
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5543 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5548 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5570 Using command for conversion: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #PIPE# "rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra"; | "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5618 Launching process with command: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\socketwrapper.exe" -o 1450 -c "\"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe\" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm -aofile #PIPE# \"rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra\"; | \"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe\" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -"
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5699 remoteURL is a song : rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5727 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5731 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5733 undermax = 1, type = flc, softsqueeze = db:f6:c3:00:8d:48, lame = C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\lame.exe
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5736 checking formats for: flc-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5737 Checking to see if flc-flc-softsqueeze-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5738enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5739 checking formats for: flc-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5739 Checking to see if flc-flc-*-db:f6:c3:00:8d:48 is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5740enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5741 checking formats for: flc-flc-softsqueeze-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5742 Checking to see if flc-flc-softsqueeze-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5743enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5744 checking formats for: flc-flc-*-*
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5744 Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5745enabled
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5746   Found command: -
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5750 Setting maxBitRate for 192.168.1.2 to: 0
2005-04-07 21:02:07.5753 Settin

[slim] Re: Mac OSX Slimserver listing many songs twice

[Dan Sully]

* Joe Hickey shaped the electrons to say...
For some reason Slimserver (latest public release) is listing most of 
my tunes twice. When I add an album to the playlist each song gets 
played twice. Most of the albums have all the songs listed twice. I 
tried rebuilding my iTunes library and followed that with a rescan but 
it's still showing twice as many tunes as I have.
How can I trash the database and start again?
Right now the best way is to remove 
~/Library/Caches/SlimServer/slimserversql.db
Is your music on a separate Volume by any chance?
-D
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[slim] Artwork problem

[JJ]

I've always used the file naming convention of _[album].jpg for album 
covers (and _[album].m3u for playlits).  In Windows Explorer this places 
these files at the top of the folder listing.

So in the Server Settings / Interface I have %_ALBUM specified as the 
alternate artwork file naming convention.  Is this not correct or is there 
some reason it won't work?  The only covers that Slim Server is picking up 
are those named cover.jpg.


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Re: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness

[Christian Pernegger]

> The snippet of "" at the beginning of "In the Flesh?"
> (the first song on the first disc) is a deliberate cyclical thing.  If
> you listen closely, at the very end of "Outside the Wall", the voice
> begins, "Isn't this where-" and gets cut off.  The beginning of "In
> the Flesh?" continues the sentence with "-we came in?" with some more
> of the accordion melody before the actual first song comes in.
> 
> I dunno if it was cut in such a way that it'd be seamless if played on
> endless repeat like that, but it should be close.

Ah, k. I didn't get what they were actually saying at the end of
Outside the Wall - so there really is nothing missing, just an extra
second of silence. Hmm, maybe I'll change it with a wave editor to be
truly cyclic. The idea is kind of neat.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up!

C.
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[slim] Mac OSX Slimserver listing many songs twice

[Joe Hickey]

Hi all,
For some reason Slimserver (latest public release) is listing most of 
my tunes twice. When I add an album to the playlist each song gets 
played twice. Most of the albums have all the songs listed twice. I 
tried rebuilding my iTunes library and followed that with a rescan but 
it's still showing twice as many tunes as I have.
How can I trash the database and start again?

I've got slimserver to use iTunes for it's library and I left the path 
to my music folder blank (just in case it was getting the songs from 
iTunes and directly from the music folder)

Cheers,
Joe
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Re: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness

[Steve Bernard, Jr]

On Apr 7, 2005 3:04 PM, Christian Pernegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally got the studio version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and
> ripped/encoded it as FLAC, as always. The album was playing in
> original order and on repeat...
> The last track of disc 2 ended with someone talking, who gets cut off
> rather apruptly, followed by about half a second of silence, then some
> more silence at the beginning of disc 1, and more or less the same
> melody continued for a few seconds.

The snippet of "Outside the Wall" at the beginning of "In the Flesh?"
(the first song on the first disc) is a deliberate cyclical thing.  If
you listen closely, at the very end of "Outside the Wall", the voice
begins, "Isn't this where-" and gets cut off.  The beginning of "In
the Flesh?" continues the sentence with "-we came in?" with some more
of the accordion melody before the actual first song comes in.

I dunno if it was cut in such a way that it'd be seamless if played on
endless repeat like that, but it should be close.  The little gap
might be part of your FLACs or inserted as the server queues up the
first album again.  But the duplication of the music at the very
beginning of the record is supposed to be there.

-Steve
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Re: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness

[Christian Pernegger]

> Can't you play red-book audio using your PC's CD/DVD drive?  If you
> connect the drive's audio output to the system's sound card you should be
> able to.

I'd have to dig up one of these analog CD audio cables and rummage
around in the machine - I'd rather not. Digital CD playback works fine
of course, but that's no different than ripping in the first place.

C.
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[slim] Re: Slightly OT: Small Amplifier recommendations

[Joe Hickey]

Iain,
You could just use a power amp and use the volume control on the squeezebox. If you wanted a really neat solution (and are a bit nifty with a screwdriver) you could get a power amp module from Maplins and mount it in one of the speakers... or flog your missions and buy a pair of active monitors (Tannoy, Alesis and Behringer all do fairly good active monitors for around 2-300 quid)

Cheers,
Joe


On 7 Apr 2005, at 19:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Iain Donaldson (Mailing Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7 April 2005 14:09:01 BST
To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Slightly OT: Small Amplifier recommendations
Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion 


Folks:

I am about to install an SB2 in a room on a shelf with shelf speakers (Mission M30is - http://www.mission.co.uk/product/m3iseries/loudspeaker_m30i.htm ).

My problem is the shelf is 25cm (10in) deep and I need a reasonable amplifier to sit between the SB2 and the speakers that fits on the shelf. This sounds like it should be easy, but it's not been very easy so far. Most hifi separate amps are 30cm deep at a minimum.

The only amp so far I've found has been the Creek A50i which is 23cm deep (just fitting with an RCA at the back) but it's a bit over the top for the room and pricey at GBP 479 (USD 800+).

I've been through the archives to the list and seen some of the in-wall suggestions, but I don't really have that option as I've just replastered :)

I recall seeing an amp that was designed for PC amplification alongside a laptop as part of following a thread on this list once, but i can't find it at all.

Anyway, what I need is:

- a decent amp (by decent i mean it has to deliver a sound I'm likely to enjoy - I've been quite impressed by Cambridge Audio's A1 & Azur range so that is the kind of thing I'm after.
- nothing too expensive as it's only driving bookshelf speakers (that are pretty good for their size)
- 23cm or less deep and not wider than a standard piece of hifi separate (I could use something like a second hand NAIT 1 put sideways, but there's no guarantee of getting them at a reasonable price)
- available in the UK

Anyone any thoughts or suggestions they'd care to share with me ?

Thanks in advance

..Iain

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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Christian Pernegger]

>We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax
s/pdif not to sync with a
>few receivers - it has been fixed already in production, but some
SB2s that shipped as
>recently as Monday will need the fix. If you have a MAC address of
00:04:20:05:A3:FA or
>lower, you can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed.

I am not using an external DAC at the moment so I'd rather spare us
both the hassle of sending my unit back to fix it. Does this have to
be done now, or could I have it fixed whenever I decide to upgrade to
a DAC and find I am affected?

Regards
C.
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Re: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness

[JJ]

Can't you play red-book audio using your PC's CD/DVD drive?  If you 
connect the drive's audio output to the system's sound card you should be 
able to.

- Original Message - 
From: "Christian Pernegger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness


I finally got the studio version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and
ripped/encoded it as FLAC, as always. The album was playing in
original order and on repeat...
The last track of disc 2 ended with someone talking, who gets cut off
rather apruptly, followed by about half a second of silence, then some
more silence at the beginning of disc 1, and more or less the same
melody continued for a few seconds.
Combined with the fact that the sb2 display is not exactly in sync
with the audio at the end of songs I first thought I was seeing things
and invalid data in the buffer, but foobar2000 does the same thing,
the last track is cut off. Is it supposed to be this way or is my rip
bad? I'm afraid my last 'real' cd player died some time ago so I can't
really check if I'm missing the last few samples.
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Re: [slim] Digital out issues.

[Richie]

How serious exactly is this problem? Is it it restricted to a
particular manufacturer or is it widespread?

I'm in the UK and I have a SB2 that has a MAC address of
00:04:20:05:A1:33 so I assume it would be affected by this issue.

I'm using the coax digital out at the moment and it works with my
current equipment, however, I had been planning to upgrade at some
point this year. I would be a little disappointed if my SB2 then
didn't work properly.

Should I return it?

Richard

On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 PM, Daryle A. Tilroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean Adams wrote:
> 
> > Everything that has shipped or will ship to Canadian resellers,
> > including Kawartha, has the fix already.
> 
> Cool!  Thanks a lot for concise, fast, and fortunate response.
> 
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[slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness

[Christian Pernegger]

I finally got the studio version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and
ripped/encoded it as FLAC, as always. The album was playing in
original order and on repeat...
The last track of disc 2 ended with someone talking, who gets cut off
rather apruptly, followed by about half a second of silence, then some
more silence at the beginning of disc 1, and more or less the same
melody continued for a few seconds.

Combined with the fact that the sb2 display is not exactly in sync
with the audio at the end of songs I first thought I was seeing things
and invalid data in the buffer, but foobar2000 does the same thing,
the last track is cut off. Is it supposed to be this way or is my rip
bad? I'm afraid my last 'real' cd player died some time ago so I can't
really check if I'm missing the last few samples.

Thanks,

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Re: [slim] metadata musings

[michael]

"Steinar Bjaerum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
...
>> I get what you're saying.  I have to wonder though if it's worth the
>> effort to define a new format, if slim is the only one using it?  Or
>> are you suggesting picking one of the four previously mentioned, and
>> provide scripts to translate the other three (and perhaps others) into
>> the chosen one, instead of supporting each directly in the server?
>> What would be the advantage to the end user to make this translation,
>> in addition to whatever format they currently prefer?
...
>
> The chosen format could very well be one of the existing formats.
> Possible advantages of choosing a slim-preferred format: Easier maintainance
> resulting in rock solid operation, it might be easier for non-experts to
> develop the utilities than to do development inside slimserver itself, ...
>
> It could be that supporting/maintaining the different formats inside
> slimserver is not that big deal and that it is easy to get acceptance for
> inclusion of new formats. If so, it is probably not worth to pursue these
> ideas further. I guess you Michael are the best one to do such an
> assessment.

I don't know if I'm the best one for that. I just throw patches at the
slim folks every now and then. And I'm certainly not the only one that
messes around with that part of the code, so I'm probably not in a
position to make an accurate assessment.
 
As for me, I'd like to see a (mostly) standard format emerge too.  So
far however the number of contenders has been small enough that it
hasn't been too much trouble. Especially since some of them are things
we deal with in the code anyway, such as parsing cuesheets.
As long as the number of supported formats goes down over time and not
up, we're probably in ok shape.

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[slim] totally, totally weird... and Digital out issues

[JJ]

I never saw a resolution to this thread regarding a grounding problem on 
the coax digital out.

Are these problems (and fix) one and the same?

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To: "Slim Devices Discussion" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [slim] OK, this is totally, totally weird..


Does your DAC have optical in?
Nope, just S/PDIF.  Waddya want for a $137 DAC?
Crap - well this is a tricky issue to debug without poking at it with a 
scope.

BTW S/PDIF is S/PDIF - could mean optical or coax. "TOSLink" 
specifically means optical, but if you just say S/PDIF it could mean 
either.

Anyway I don't have an answer OTOH but I'll think on it...

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To: "Slim Devices Discussion" 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.


On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:43 AM, depeche wrote:
Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea then
Well, no it wasn't just to be different - just an aesthetic decision. 
:)

Optical - no idea, don't have a cable.
Testing optical tells us whether it's a signal integrity issue or not.
MAC addy - on the bottom of the SB2  :)  (A few miles from here) (Why 
is
this important?)
We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax s/pdif 
not to sync with a few receivers - it has been fixed already in 
production, but some SB2s that shipped as recently as Monday will need 
the fix. If you have a MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or lower, you 
can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed. 
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Re: [slim] New Music date ordering

[Philip Meyer]

>Either way, it belongs in Bugzilla.  They can change the bug/freq tag 
>after it's filed, if you get it wrong.
>
Enhancement request  #1332 raised.

Phil

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RE: [slim] Help - AlienBBC with Slimserver 6.01 on XP - "RSTP ConvertError"

[Patrick Dixon]

It probably refers to the RTSP->stream conversion which is selected in
Server Settings > File Types: I'd guess it's trying to convert RTSP to MP3
and it can't find Lame.

Do you have Lame installed and either in the path or in the main slimserver
directory?

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To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Help - AlienBBC with Slimserver 6.01 on XP - "RSTP
ConvertError"


I am struggling to get the AlienBBC plugin to work and I feel that I am
now very close.  I am using Slimserver v6.01 with AlienBBC 0.97 and I
have followed the installation instructions to the letter.  Mplayer
appears to work OK because if I enter "mplayer -really-quiet -vo null
-cache 32
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra";
I can hear the stream perfectly without any buffering delay.  Also I can
see AlienBBC installed as a plugin and I can navigate to the BBC streams
from within Slimserver and also Softsqueeze (2.0b3).

However, when trying to listen to a stream I get the following message
flashed up for a split second: "RSTP Convert Error - check file type". I
have searched around and but I have not been able to find a solution.

Does anyone know how to cure this?

Gary


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[slim] Help - AlienBBC with Slimserver 6.01 on XP - "RSTP Convert Error"

[G]

I am struggling to get the AlienBBC plugin to work and I feel that I am
now very close.  I am using Slimserver v6.01 with AlienBBC 0.97 and I
have followed the installation instructions to the letter.  Mplayer
appears to work OK because if I enter "mplayer -really-quiet -vo null
-cache 32
rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra";
I can hear the stream perfectly without any buffering delay.  Also I can
see AlienBBC installed as a plugin and I can navigate to the BBC streams
from within Slimserver and also Softsqueeze (2.0b3).

However, when trying to listen to a stream I get the following message
flashed up for a split second: "RSTP Convert Error - check file type". I
have searched around and but I have not been able to find a solution.

Does anyone know how to cure this?

Gary


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RE: [slim] Slimp3/softsqueeze syncing

[James Mitchelmore]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 07 April 2005 03:32
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] Slimp3/softsqueeze syncing

On Apr 6, 2005 7:23 PM, James Mitchelmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am currently running the latest version of softsqueeze and a slimp3
> synchronised together and am very impressed with the results.  The
only
> problem that I am having is when I sync one to the other it matches
its
> output volume to the other 'device'. 
> 



James,

Sorry if I'm missing something or stating the obvious but have you
looked at Player Settings -> Audio tab in the web interface?  There's
an option there that allows you to control volume sync (enabled or
disabled) for each player, individually.  There have been some bugs
ironed out recently wrt this feature
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1258,
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1216) but I think it's
supposed to be working in 6.0.1.

Ben


I hadn't actually noticed those settings, but both were set to not sync
volume anyway.  They don't actually track each others volume, its only
when one is playing and the other is started that the initial device
jumps to the new units volume.  From then on volume can be adjusted
independently.

James
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Re: [slim] metadata musings

[Sean Goller]

Mike Hartley wrote:
Sean,
Thanks for the detail.  And, yes, it does clarify.  Funny you brought up
EAC.  I just downloaded it last night.  But all I could find on the site was
a series of Betas with no final.  Are you using the latest Beta version, or
am I looking in the wrong place?
Mike
The latest beta is the right one. EAC has been in perpetual beta since 
forever. :)

It's pretty stable though. I don't think it's ever crashed on me.
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Re: [slim] SB2 geekport

[PAUL WILLIAMSON]

Sweet...lemme go get a towel to wipe the drool off my 
keyboard!

Paul

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/07/05 12:19 PM >>>

Geekport software is not done, but yes, you'll be able to plug a 
standard 1/8" IR blaster into the headphone port.

At the moment, we are almost done with basic blasting capability, where

the server sends commands to the Squeezebox2. Pass-through, macros, 
triggers and other things are possible down the road.

Blasting support is planned for 6.1 - right now we are only putting in

bug fixes.



On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:37 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:

> Does the headphone jack of the SB2 output the IR
> codes it receives by default?  I'm trying to reduce the
> clutter around my TV, and I've got a "dinky link"
> IR receiver sitting right next to my SB.  If the
> SB2 geekport can "blast" out an IR signal, I could
> just get one of these:
>
> http://www.smarthome.com/8171s.html 
>
> and eliminate the dinky link for use someplace
> else.  The device I want to control is in a
> cabinet, but not having a separate IR sensor
> and using the SB2 instead would just be that
> much "geekier."  Plus, my wife would enjoy
> having one less ugly black box cluttering
> everything up.
>
> Does the male jack of this thing even fit into
> the headphone jack?  I'm guessing it does,
> as the specs say it's a 1/8" jack and that's what
> the SB2 headphone jack is.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Re: [slim] Digital out issues.

[Daryle A. Tilroe]

Sean Adams wrote:
Everything that has shipped or will ship to Canadian resellers, 
including Kawartha, has the fix already.
Cool!  Thanks a lot for concise, fast, and fortunate response.
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Re: [slim] SB2 geekport

[Sean Adams]

Geekport software is not done, but yes, you'll be able to plug a 
standard 1/8" IR blaster into the headphone port.

At the moment, we are almost done with basic blasting capability, where 
the server sends commands to the Squeezebox2. Pass-through, macros, 
triggers and other things are possible down the road.

Blasting support is planned for 6.1 - right now we are only putting in 
bug fixes.


On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:37 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
Does the headphone jack of the SB2 output the IR
codes it receives by default?  I'm trying to reduce the
clutter around my TV, and I've got a "dinky link"
IR receiver sitting right next to my SB.  If the
SB2 geekport can "blast" out an IR signal, I could
just get one of these:
http://www.smarthome.com/8171s.html
and eliminate the dinky link for use someplace
else.  The device I want to control is in a
cabinet, but not having a separate IR sensor
and using the SB2 instead would just be that
much "geekier."  Plus, my wife would enjoy
having one less ugly black box cluttering
everything up.
Does the male jack of this thing even fit into
the headphone jack?  I'm guessing it does,
as the specs say it's a 1/8" jack and that's what
the SB2 headphone jack is.
Thanks,
Paul
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Re: [slim] Digital out issues.

[Sean Adams]

On Apr 7, 2005, at 8:55 AM, Daryle A. Tilroe wrote:
Sean Adams wrote:
We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax 
s/pdif not to sync with a few receivers - it has been fixed already 
in production, but some SB2s that shipped as recently as Monday will 
need the fix. If you have a MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or 
lower, you can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed.
So are you doing a recall with your resellers?  I was going to order
one from Kawartha as soon as they have them in (there seems to be
a delay though; perhaps this issue?) but I don't want to turn around
and ship it back to Slimdevices for the fix because of all the 
attendant
shipping and customs hassles.  I am certain most of your overseas
customers will feel the same way.  Anyhow I just want to know the
plan because when Kawartha phones me saying the SB2s are ready to
ship I will be asking them this question and I want to make certain
they are not the defective ones.  Otherwise I will just wait till
the fixed ones get in.  Thanks.
Everything that has shipped or will ship to Canadian resellers, 
including Kawartha, has the fix already. 

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RE: [slim] Screensaver delay time in seconds

[Patrick Dixon]

Thanks.  I just found it slightly disconcerting that the SB switches
instantly to RRS ticker as soon as the current playlist stops playing.

If anyone else agrees, I'll file a feature request ...

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On Apr 7, 2005 10:32 AM, Patrick Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What should the "Screensaver delay time in seconds" in Player Settings do?

time for the screensaver to cut in when playing (you might not have
noticed if it's set to 'now playing').
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Re: [slim] Digital out issues.

[Daryle A. Tilroe]

Sean Adams wrote:
We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax s/pdif 
not to sync with a few receivers - it has been fixed already in 
production, but some SB2s that shipped as recently as Monday will need 
the fix. If you have a MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or lower, you 
can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed.
So are you doing a recall with your resellers?  I was going to order
one from Kawartha as soon as they have them in (there seems to be
a delay though; perhaps this issue?) but I don't want to turn around
and ship it back to Slimdevices for the fix because of all the attendant
shipping and customs hassles.  I am certain most of your overseas
customers will feel the same way.  Anyhow I just want to know the
plan because when Kawartha phones me saying the SB2s are ready to
ship I will be asking them this question and I want to make certain
they are not the defective ones.  Otherwise I will just wait till
the fixed ones get in.  Thanks.
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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Vidur Apparao]

depeche wrote:
Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK.  Normally you have
low ---> high freq.
or
Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)
 

The visualizers are configurable from the server, though we haven't yet 
created a UI for this. If you're feeling particularly bold, you can 
modify the configuration parameters in the server source. The parameters 
for the right-side visualizer in the Now Playing modes are in 
Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm and those for the full-screen visualizers are 
in Plugins/Visualizer.pm. The configuration parameters (including 
position, orientation, bandwidth, etc.) are documented in the first file.

The spectrum analyzer is implemented using a simple fixed-point FFT with 
a Hamming window applied to the signal. Since most real-world audio has 
considerably more power in the lower frequency bands, one of the 
configurable parameters is a preemphasis value applied to the frequency 
bins after the FFT (effectively a multiplier for the higher frequency 
bins) - the value is specified in dB/KHz.

I've spent a little bit of time playing with the parameters to get 
something that looks reasonably good (and that's the eventual goal, 
right?). If anyone, ideally someone with a better aesthetic sense than 
I, is interested in experimenting and coming up with better parameters, 
or even a UI for users to configure their own parameters, I'd welcome 
the changes.

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[slim] SB2 geekport

[PAUL WILLIAMSON]

Does the headphone jack of the SB2 output the IR 
codes it receives by default?  I'm trying to reduce the 
clutter around my TV, and I've got a "dinky link" 
IR receiver sitting right next to my SB.  If the 
SB2 geekport can "blast" out an IR signal, I could 
just get one of these:

http://www.smarthome.com/8171s.html 

and eliminate the dinky link for use someplace 
else.  The device I want to control is in a 
cabinet, but not having a separate IR sensor 
and using the SB2 instead would just be that 
much "geekier."  Plus, my wife would enjoy 
having one less ugly black box cluttering 
everything up.

Does the male jack of this thing even fit into 
the headphone jack?  I'm guessing it does, 
as the specs say it's a 1/8" jack and that's what 
the SB2 headphone jack is.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: [slim] very minor issue with slimserver 6

[Vidur Apparao]

Daniel Cohen wrote:
On 7/4/05 at 9:05 am -0400, Ken Hokugo wrote
Thanks.
Sorry for my ignorance.  What is "transcoded"?
I use only WAV files ripped by EAC.  I will check again tonight. And, 
no, I don't think anything changed in my settings.

And no other changes in your settings when you upgraded? Remember 
that Forward and Rewind only work on files that don't get transcoded.
--
Daniel Cohen

Basically, the default for wireless playback is to play WAV files as 
high quality MP3, as this saves bandwidth, which can reduce problems 
such as dropouts. For wired use, WAV is played as WAV. You can ensure 
WAV is played as WAV even for a wireless connection by going to Player 
Settings, Audio, and setting Bitrate Limiting to No Limit.

And if WAV is played back as MP3, the forward and rewind buttons don't 
work.

Possibly the upgrade reset your settings.
With an SB2, WAV is transcoded to FLAC. It's possible to disable this 
transcoding on the Server Settings > File Types page of the web 
interface. Without disabling this setting, you will not be able to 
FWD/RWD WAV files.

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RE: [slim] AlienBBC 0.97 and BBC playout problem

[Daniel Cohen]

On 7/4/05 at 10:31 am +0100, Dan Goodinson wrote
Reduce the bitrate - it worked a treat for me when I had EXACTLY the
same symptoms.
I may do that. The only problem with doing it is that it affects 
*all* items, whereas I really only need it for radio streams.
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Re: [slim] very minor issue with slimserver 6

[Daniel Cohen]

On 7/4/05 at 9:05 am -0400, Ken Hokugo wrote
Thanks.
Sorry for my ignorance.  What is "transcoded"?
I use only WAV files ripped by EAC.  I will check again tonight. 
And, no, I don't think anything changed in my settings.

And no other changes in your settings when you upgraded? Remember 
that Forward and Rewind only work on files that don't get transcoded.
--
Daniel Cohen
Basically, the default for wireless playback is to play WAV files as 
high quality MP3, as this saves bandwidth, which can reduce problems 
such as dropouts. For wired use, WAV is played as WAV. You can ensure 
WAV is played as WAV even for a wireless connection by going to 
Player Settings, Audio, and setting Bitrate Limiting to No Limit.

And if WAV is played back as MP3, the forward and rewind buttons don't work.
Possibly the upgrade reset your settings.
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[slim] Browse Artwork - doesn't show any album details

[FRANK ZAPPA]

Apologies if this has been mentioned before - am new here; have had a quick look, but have not seen it mentioned. Maybe I've just missed it.
When "Browse Artwork" is selected, it does not show any album details under each thumbnail, just "Play" and "Add to playlist".
Using SlimServer 6.0.1, on Windows XP WS, as of last night.
I may be mistaken, but I'm sure the previous version on the trial box here - 6.0b1 - showed more detail under each thumbnail.
Am I dreaming?
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RE: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[depeche]

Ahh, my plan is working - confusion reigns!!!  :)

But Seriously
Clock display issue is NOT working on the SB2.  (If I swap out the SB2 for
my recently displaced SBG all works as one would expect.)
The issue is seen both with the screensaver and while off.

Andrew
BTW - I REALLY appreciate the speed of you guys on these things!  THANKS!


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Ok, now I'm a little confused.  The display clock issue is on a SBG?
Does it work on your SB2?

And it sounds like it happens with the DateTime screensaver.  Does it
also stop when the player is powered off?

(Sean will be commenting on the digital out issue...  Vidur on the
visualizer...)

-dean

On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:07 AM, depeche wrote:

> I am running the nightly from the 4th or 5th (I am not near the
> machine at
> the moment).  The clock is statically displaying the time that the
> screensaver kicked in.  If I hit the power button on the remote it will
> 'refresh' the time displayed.  The time never enumerates...
>
> Are there issues with that nightly with digital clocking?
>
> Andrew
>
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dean
> blackketter
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:03 AM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.
>
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:16 PM, d-mode wrote:
>
>> Got the SQ2 today and have noticed a few strange things while running
>> on a W2K server and yesterdays nightly:
>>
>> 1.  The clock does NOT actually keep updating the time.
> There was a bug in a pre-6.0.0 version that had a problem updating the
> time.  Are you running 6.0.1?  Can you give some details on what you
> are seeing?
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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Sean Adams]

On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:43 AM, depeche wrote:
Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea then
Well, no it wasn't just to be different - just an aesthetic decision.  
:)

Optical - no idea, don't have a cable.
Testing optical tells us whether it's a signal integrity issue or not.
MAC addy - on the bottom of the SB2  :)  (A few miles from here) (Why 
is
this important?)
We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax s/pdif 
not to sync with a few receivers - it has been fixed already in 
production, but some SB2s that shipped as recently as Monday will need 
the fix. If you have a MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or lower, you 
can contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get it fixed.

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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[dean blackketter]

Ok, now I'm a little confused.  The display clock issue is on a SBG?  
Does it work on your SB2?

And it sounds like it happens with the DateTime screensaver.  Does it 
also stop when the player is powered off?

(Sean will be commenting on the digital out issue...  Vidur on the 
visualizer...)

-dean
On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:07 AM, depeche wrote:
I am running the nightly from the 4th or 5th (I am not near the 
machine at
the moment).  The clock is statically displaying the time that the
screensaver kicked in.  If I hit the power button on the remote it will
'refresh' the time displayed.  The time never enumerates...

Are there issues with that nightly with digital clocking?
Andrew
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On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:16 PM, d-mode wrote:
Got the SQ2 today and have noticed a few strange things while running
on a W2K server and yesterdays nightly:
1.  The clock does NOT actually keep updating the time.
There was a bug in a pre-6.0.0 version that had a problem updating the
time.  Are you running 6.0.1?  Can you give some details on what you
are seeing?
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RE: [slim] WPA or WEP encryption - any issues with SB1 (firmware 40)?

[Craig, James (IT)]

just my bad memory, I know it didn't work in the mode my router was in
to start with!

James 

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(firmware 40)?

Not sure what problems James had with Shared Key but it works perfectly
well
on my set up: SB1 and Netgear WG602 Wireless Access Point. Obvious I
know
but just make sure that you use the same hex code on both the access
point
and the SB.

Regards

Chris

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40)?


Fair enough :-)

I'll check it out when next home.

Thanks again all, for you response.


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I think it's called 'open key'.
Should only be the choice of the two on your router so it will be clear!

James

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(firmware 40)?

Excellent - thanks Craig.

Ok, I'll have another go at getting it up and running this weekend.  I
don't know much about encryption, but the expression "shared key" rings
a bell - I think this is what I was trying to set up last time.  That
being the case, what is the alternative to shared key?

Cheers again!
Dan.

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I have WEP enabled, I believe WPA is not supported for SB1
(I assume it's unlikely to be at this point now that SB2 is out)

You can't use 'shared-key' encryption either - this got me for a while.
Other than that it was painless.
I only use 64 bit encryption (lazyness).

James

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Subject: [slim] WPA or WEP encryption - any issues with SB1 (firmware
40)?

A while ago, a tried setting up some encryption on my wireless network,
but I couldn't get SB to connect to a 64-bit or 128-bit encrypted LAN.
(I think, at the time, I was still on firmware revision 39).  I ended up
disabling encryption, so now I'm back to MAC filter.  When I tried the
encryption, I was on MAC filter plus encryption.

Can anyone confirm whether this works or not?  I guess it must work at
some level, as I haven't seen any posts about it on the lists
recently...?

So if someone can let me know that it definitely works ok, then I'll try
and get it up and running again on my home LAN.

Are there any "preferred" encryption methods?  e.g. 64-bit, 128-bit,
WEP, WPA or whatever?

Cheers!
Dan.
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RE: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[depeche]

Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea thenOK.  Normally you have
low ---> high freq.
or
Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)

Digital:
RCA cable - nothing special, except that it is the SAME cable used
successfully with my SBG.
Optical - no idea, don't have a cable.
MAC addy - on the bottom of the SB2  :)  (A few miles from here) (Why is
this important?)

Andrew


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> The spectrum thingy looks like it is mirrored from the middle, as both
> ends seem to be the bass portion.  I have not done the test tone, but
> probably will tomorrow.

That's exactly what it's supposed to look like - it's a stereo spectrum
analyzer with bass on the outside bars.

>>> 2. Digital output (Non-optical) WILL NOT lock with my reciever. All
>>> I get is
>>> static if/when it 'syncs'.  I have had to resort to analogue. :(


- How long, and what kind of cable is it?
- Does optical work?
- What is your MAC address?

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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[Sean Adams]

The spectrum thingy looks like it is mirrored from the middle, as both 
ends seem to be the bass portion.  I have not done the test tone, but 
probably will tomorrow.
That's exactly what it's supposed to look like - it's a stereo spectrum 
analyzer with bass on the outside bars.

2. Digital output (Non-optical) WILL NOT lock with my reciever. All 
I get is
static if/when it 'syncs'.  I have had to resort to analogue. :(

- How long, and what kind of cable is it?
- Does optical work?
- What is your MAC address?
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RE: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[depeche]

I am running the nightly from the 4th or 5th (I am not near the machine at
the moment).  The clock is statically displaying the time that the
screensaver kicked in.  If I hit the power button on the remote it will
'refresh' the time displayed.  The time never enumerates...

Are there issues with that nightly with digital clocking?

Andrew


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On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:16 PM, d-mode wrote:

> Got the SQ2 today and have noticed a few strange things while running
> on a W2K server and yesterdays nightly:
>
> 1.  The clock does NOT actually keep updating the time.
There was a bug in a pre-6.0.0 version that had a problem updating the
time.  Are you running 6.0.1?  Can you give some details on what you
are seeing?

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Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.

[dean blackketter]

On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:16 PM, d-mode wrote:
Got the SQ2 today and have noticed a few strange things while running 
on a W2K server and yesterdays nightly:

1.  The clock does NOT actually keep updating the time.
There was a bug in a pre-6.0.0 version that had a problem updating the 
time.  Are you running 6.0.1?  Can you give some details on what you 
are seeing?

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[slim] release 6.0/6.01 ebuild for Gentoo

[Peter Bodley]

Hi,
I have been looking at the ebuild for slimserver 6.0.b3 that is available at
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73832
 and am trying to update it to install version 6.0.1, so far without success.

Has anyone been able to get this ebuild working yet?  

The problems I have had so far were the Bin directory wasn't initally
being deployed, and then the perl binaries are not being found after
running Dan's build-perl-modules.pl.

Gentoo is brilliant when everything works, but I am still getting lost
when trying to pick up the pieces of a failed install.

thanks
Pete
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[slim] Slightly OT: Small Amplifier recommendations

[Mailing Lists]

Folks:
I am about to install an SB2 in a room on a shelf with shelf speakers 
(Mission M30is - 
http://www.mission.co.uk/product/m3iseries/loudspeaker_m30i.htm ).

My problem is the shelf is 25cm (10in) deep and I need a reasonable 
amplifier to sit between the SB2 and the speakers that fits on the 
shelf. This sounds like it should be easy, but it's not been very easy 
so far. Most hifi separate amps are 30cm deep at a minimum.

The only amp so far I've found has been the Creek A50i which is 23cm 
deep (just fitting with an RCA at the back) but it's a bit over the top 
for the room and pricey at GBP 479 (USD 800+).

I've been through the archives to the list and seen some of the in-wall 
suggestions, but I don't really have that option as I've just 
replastered :)

I recall seeing an amp that was designed for PC amplification alongside 
a laptop as part of following a thread on this list once, but i can't 
find it at all.

Anyway, what I need is:
- a decent amp (by decent i mean it has to deliver a sound I'm likely 
to enjoy - I've been quite impressed by Cambridge Audio's A1 & Azur 
range so that is the kind of thing I'm after.
- nothing too expensive as it's only driving bookshelf speakers (that 
are pretty good for their size)
- 23cm or less deep and not wider than a standard piece of hifi 
separate (I could use something like a second hand NAIT 1 put sideways, 
but there's no guarantee of getting them at a reasonable price)
- available in the UK

Anyone any thoughts or suggestions they'd care to share with me ?
Thanks in advance
..Iain
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Re: [slim] very minor issue with slimserver 6

[Ken Hokugo]

Thanks.
Sorry for my ignorance.  What is "transcoded"?
I use only WAV files ripped by EAC.  I will check again tonight.  And, no, I 
don't think anything changed in my settings.

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:02:48 +0100
On 6/4/05 at 11:48 pm -0400, Ken Hokugo wrote
Since upgrading to 6.0.0 from 5.4.1, "forward" and "rewind" of my remote do 
not seem to be working.  To be precise, the remote is Marantz universal 
remote programmed from SB remote and they were functioning correctly 
before.  The SB is still SB1, as my "Platinum" SB2 has not shipped yet.  
Not that critical at all for me, but a bit curious.  Anyone experiencing 
the same thing?

And no other changes in your settings when you upgraded? Remember that 
Forward and Rewind only work on files that don't get transcoded.
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RE: [slim] WPA or WEP encryption - any issues with SB1 (firmware 40)?

[neil . coburn]

A while ago I couldn't get 128 bit WEP to work properly (lots of pauses
and lost connections), but 64 bit works fine


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Re: [slim] metadata musings

[Mike Hartley]

Sean,
Thanks for the detail.  And, yes, it does clarify.  Funny you brought up
EAC.  I just downloaded it last night.  But all I could find on the site was
a series of Betas with no final.  Are you using the latest Beta version, or
am I looking in the wrong place?

Mike
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> Mike Hartley wrote:
> > Sean,
> > PLEASE forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm interested because I
am setting up a new dedicated server on a 3G wireless network for a new SB2
and am making format decisions.  Specifically, this discussion of meta-data
for the file has me interested.  Is this basic track, album and articst
information, or are you discussing additional information beyond this?
> >
> > I'm trying to decide whether to keep the server as is with Win XP and
copy my files over in their current state as WMA lossless or re-rip or
convert everything to FLAC.  I was also considering the radical step of
using a Linux Deb distro for the server in conjunction with FLAC and bagging
Win XP altogether.
> >
> > However, this and some other research are giving me some second
thoughts. From this and other discussions here, it seems that FLAC files can
be difficult to create and manage. If the info you are talking about is the
title/album/track/genre stuff, I find Win Media player retrieves it pretty
reliably and ripping is super easy.  Forgetting my inherent dislike of MS,
if it's really that much more of a pain to manage ripping and tagging in
FLAC, what's the advantage other than open format?
> >
> > Help me out here!  :-)
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
> Warning: Grandiose Plan Discussion Ahead
>
> What I am trying to accomplish is to create a complete lossless archive
> of all my CDs. By "complete" I mean I can accomplish anything i'd want
> to do with the music on the original CD with the data in this archive,
> without having to go through the drudgery of swapping CDs for days when
> I want to perform some operation on my entire collection. (like encode
> to the new lossy format of the day) FLAC gets me that, because I can use
> EAC to rip the CD to WAV, encode that WAV to FLAC and embed the cuesheet
> into the resulting image. That single file has enough information in it
> to get me metadata information from musicbrainz or freedb whenever I
> want it. I don't have to worry about the directory structure I've chosen
> to store the images in, filename conventions, or anything. All I need is
> the data in that file, and that data will *never* change. For all
> intents and purposes I can mount whatever drive it's on read-only.
>
> This attitude towards metadata is especially key with "relatively"
> volatile metadata storage, like musicbrainz. If I treat metadata as
> being external information that's cached as opposed to *part of the data
> itself* then it's much simpler to update and maintain. The simplest and
> most resource-abusive example is every time slimserver loads up a FLAC
> image, it calculates the CDIndexId and fetches the metadata from
> musicbrainz and caches it locally for reference while any track from it
> is being played. Now SlimServer is *guaranteed* to have up-to-the-second
> track information from musicbrainz. Would I suggest doing this? Heck no,
> I pay for server bandwidth too. But writing a script that once a month
> slowly walks through your collection updating metadata isn't beyond the
> realm of possiblity.
>
> In specific response to your question, it doesn't matter what the
> metadata is. Since the CD's TOC is derivable directly from the FLAC
> image, you can use that information to generate whatever token
> (musicbrainz CDIndexId, freedb DiscID, what have) you need to get
> metadata from the internet.
>
> I guess part of this comes from how you view music. Most ripping
> software uses the track as the atomic unit of data, since that's how
> people listen to it, individual songs. But once you start talking about
> keeping a network-based copy of your entire music collection around, it
> doesn't really make as much sense to break it down that far. FLAC
> (especially with version 1.1.2) makes it very easy to extract TOC-based
> sections of data from an image, which means it's easy to create
> track-based "export" versions of your library. I don't care if the hot
> new music player only plays AAC and doesn't understand FLAC, I can write
> a script that walks over my entire archive and export everything to AAC,
> with the appropriate metadata fetched from a cache or on the fly. And
> two years later, if I junk that player and get another one that only
> plays OGG, I can delete my AAC library and re-export everything to OGG,
> with little to no human intervention. SlimServer doesn't care if your
> music storage is track-based or album-based, as long as it can get to an
> individual track and provide metadata to the listener.
>
> As for FLAC cr

Re: [slim] New Music date ordering

[Marc Sherman]

Phil wrote:
It would seem to be a good idea for the "New Music" facility to
be  driven by the creation date, not modification date.  I'm not
really  interested if some tags get amended; the music is the same.
Alternatively, perhaps a new config item could be added to the
Behaviour settings, to select which timestamp to use for determining
the  "New Music" list.
	Do you consider this a bug, or an enhancement request?
Either way, it belongs in Bugzilla.  They can change the bug/freq tag 
after it's filed, if you get it wrong.

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Re: [slim] Screensaver delay time in seconds

[Simon Still]

On Apr 7, 2005 10:32 AM, Patrick Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What should the "Screensaver delay time in seconds" in Player Settings do?

time for the screensaver to cut in when playing (you might not have
noticed if it's set to 'now playing').
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[slim] Screensaver delay time in seconds

[Patrick Dixon]

What should the "Screensaver delay time in seconds" in Player Settings do?

I assumed that it should be the time after, say, stopping playing or
switching off before the screensaver started running, but it doesn't seem to
have any effect on that.

6-4 6.01 nightly on FC with SB2

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RE: [slim] AlienBBC 0.97 and BBC playout problem

[Dan Goodinson]

Reduce the bitrate - it worked a treat for me when I had EXACTLY the
same symptoms.

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On 6/4/05 at 3:11 pm -0700, G Kolstad wrote
>  > >I may have solved my problem. I noticed I had the quality of the
>>  >transcoding to HIGH. I set it to LOW and now CPU usage is in  >the 
>> teens.
>>
>>  Where is this set? I'm using Mac OS 10.3.8, so the place may be  
>> different, but I can look around.
>
>Web Interface > Player Settings > Audio > LAME Quality Level

Thanks. That's probably not the issue with the dropouts I have had, 
as it is set at the dfault of 9. On the other hand, the btirate is 
set to No Limit.
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RE: [slim] Struggling with AlienBBC FC3 install

[Patrick Dixon]

OK, I have just 'located' everything mplayer and wiped it from the system,
and then done a reinstall of the mplayer rpms.

The rpms still say they're not installed (but they are - so must be
something wrong with the rpm header or something), and AlienBBC now all
works! :-)

First observation (with SB2) is that the spectrum display 'stutters' when
playing AlienBBC stations.  Switching the RTSP -> FLAC and RTSP -> WAV file
conversions off (ie forcing MP3 streaming??) fixes this, but forcing a FLAC
stream in a similar manner doesn't - which seems odd given the native FLAC
decoding by the SB2 and that I haven't noticed this with FLAC music streams.

Presumably the lame install is only required for MP3 streaming?

Thanks, Patrick

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To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Struggling with AlienBBC FC3 install


I've installed 0.97, mplayer pre0.6 and (in theory) the essential codecs
package.

Everything works but nothing plays.

The alien files are all present and correct, and mplayer is there and I can
play a m3u playlist file.

But I'm not sure about the 'essential codecs' package.  I installed it using
rpm -Uvh, but when I query it with rpm -ql it says it's not installed.  But
installing it using rpm -Uvh says it is installed!  So I installed it
(again) using rpm --force ivh, it unpacks but then rpm -ql says it's not
installed :-(

What's going on?  Where should the 'essential codecs' be in the filesystem
so I can check if they're there or not.

Thanks, Patrick

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[slim] Struggling with AlienBBC FC3 install

[Patrick Dixon]

I've installed 0.97, mplayer pre0.6 and (in theory) the essential codecs
package.

Everything works but nothing plays.

The alien files are all present and correct, and mplayer is there and I can
play a m3u playlist file.

But I'm not sure about the 'essential codecs' package.  I installed it using
rpm -Uvh, but when I query it with rpm -ql it says it's not installed.  But
installing it using rpm -Uvh says it is installed!  So I installed it
(again) using rpm --force ivh, it unpacks but then rpm -ql says it's not
installed :-(

What's going on?  Where should the 'essential codecs' be in the filesystem
so I can check if they're there or not.

Thanks, Patrick

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RE: [slim] New Music date ordering

[Chris Brooking]

Phil wrote:

It would seem to be a good idea for the "New Music" facility to
be  driven by the creation date, not modification date.  I'm not
really  interested if some tags get amended; the music is the same.
Alternatively, perhaps a new config item could be added to the
Behaviour settings, to select which timestamp to use for determining
the  "New Music" list.

Do you consider this a bug, or an enhancement request?

Phil

I second this as an excellent idea.  It's a little annoying to have
something pop to the top of 'new music' when I edit a tag.

Chris

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Re: [slim] Server 6.0.1

[Michael Herger]

[..]
3.  looks like the server s/w would allow me to select graphical
screen savers for the Slimp3s.
I think this is related to bug 1167 (bugzilla seems to be down right now,  
so I can't confirm).

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[slim] Server 6.0.1

[Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int)]

Title: Server 6.0.1






Last night - in readiness for my SB2 - I installed the 6.0.1 release.


Currently I have two Slimp3s (still going very well) and two instances of SoftSqueeze.  The installation was flawless and everything seems fine.  Below are a couple of very minor gripes - but otherwise everything is fab, well done Slim Devices & all contributors.

Using Softsqueeze gives a real feel for what the SB2 will be like and making breakfast this morning I was able to read the RSS news ticker on the kitchen Slimp3.

Well done again and please build a VideoSqueeze!  No one else could do it as well as SlimDevices.


Minor issues:
    1.  Softsqueeze decided to use different MAC Addresses so all of my settings were lost.
    2.  Softsqueeze (with JRE 1.5 & Java MP3) had a brief chipmunk moment when I 1st started using it
    3.  looks like the server s/w would allow me to select graphical screen savers for the Slimp3s.



Environment:
    SlimServer 6.0.1 running on a dedicated Windows XP SP 1 800Mhz Athlon 640M RAM
    approx. 10,000 tracks
    100Mbps wired network
    Softsqueeze run on separate machine to server.



Gavin




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