Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
This also looked very interesting to me, but I can't seem to find any reference to an IR port. The 770 could also clean up in the high-end remote control market (think Pronto etc.) if it included a good consumer grade IR port. (If you build it, the software would come...) I've just bought a Axim x50v to serve as universal remote control and web browser, but the 770 looks like it could be a better fit if it had IR. Also, I've only seen reference to the size of screen, not the resolution. Is it a 640*480 as on the latest PDA's, or is it just a large 320*240? (The price would indicate the latter, but it would seem a shame.) On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 16:28 -0500, Victor Brilon wrote: > > I work at Nokia, I know someone who works in the group that works on > this product. I have no inside knowledge of anything having to do > with this product since I am in an entirely different division. > > > I've seen this thing and it's a very good looking device. Really > sharp screen and fun to use. I think I may be able to get one of > these to play with and I'd be glad to work with someone who is > smarter than I am about skins to make a perfect skin for it. > > Anyone up for it? > > Victor -- "The biggest problem encountered while trying to design a system that was completely foolproof, was, that people tended to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." (Douglas Adams) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
Another intriguing thought about the Nokia 770--it claims support for playing mp3s and the like. So then you could run slimserver in a browser, xmms (or some such thing) pointing to the slimserver stream, headphones on your melon, and boom! you've got a pretty fancy portable player! well, at least until you get out of WiFi range... Far enough to listen to your music while hoovering your appartment :-) man, so many possibilities. now if i can just squirrel away the $$ to buy the thing... I'll have the bucks by the day it sorts for those 350$ in _Switzerland_. I bet they'll ask almost the double over here :-(. Poor Standards Support (CSS and Javascript particularly), As radish stated correctly this is no longer an issue. though, and with it's uber-flexibility I'd be a difficult sell on Opera. Flexibility is great with the desktop versions. Can't say this for the copy I'm running on the Zaurus, though. I would think Firefox could run as lean and mean or more so than Opera on the 770. I'm not so sure. Opera is quite a standard with small devices: they have versions for many different mobile phones, techniques like "small screen rendering" which optionally optimises the layout for small screens etc. They have a lot of experience with small devices, that others simply don't have. But I think there's a project working on a smaller footprint, small devices optimised mozilla browser. Well, 800x480 might outgrow the "small screen" category :-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
When you say "too small", you mean for reading mail and surfing? Surfing. Opera's "small screen rendering" does a nice job, but it's not always that handy. Because I think it should be more than sufficient for controlling slimserver -- Oh, it is! I use it all the time with the handheld skin. especially if someone makes a skin/theme for slimserver which is friendly to that size screen. Handheld has been developped for this. It uses only few images, very little CSS (due to earlier Pocket IE not supporting it) and almost no javascript. I'm really happy with it since the day it was contributed. Almost all my plugins support it ;-) Which is ok to enter URLs or quickly run some commands in the ssh client ;-). But I wouldn't seriously consider it to write mails. But it sure would be nice to search for songs. I have to admit that I rarely use the search. But the keyboard simplifies any text editing, of course. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
> How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, > much faster CPU, runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can > run your own software on it? Oh and a projected retail price of > £199.99 with a 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our > American friends)! Now it's getting interesting. ;-) -- Maditude ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
When will it make its debut? When should we expect this to ship to the US? Very anxious, as I've been shopping around for a NAS. -- Darren ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
Opera is easily as standards compliant as Firefox, and it runs lighter (which is obviously important for embedded type devices). In many ways it's actually more customizable and tweakable than Firefox, unless you're happy getting your hands mucky with XUL. The UI is a little different (I don't like it personally), and it is closed source. There is a free (ad supported) version, and a pay (no ads) version for Windows, though I would imagine the version for the Nokia will be licensed and thus ad-free. I work in a team full of web geeks and I'd say we're are split about 70/30 ff/opera. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
Another intriguing thought about the Nokia 770--it claims support for playing mp3s and the like. So then you could run slimserver in a browser, xmms (or some such thing) pointing to the slimserver stream, headphones on your melon, and boom! you've got a pretty fancy portable player! well, at least until you get out of WiFi range... Or...you can use your 770 to control your multiple squeezeboxen that are all synced and you've got poor man's Sonos! man, so many possibilities. now if i can just squirrel away the $$ to buy the thing... as for Opera-- It's been so long since I've used it I should back off of my original statement, but my beefs with that browser used to be: Poor Standards Support (CSS and Javascript particularly), Not Free (looks like that has changed though), Closed Source, Non-Intuitive UI (for me). I just looked at their website though and the screenshots alone tell me it's come a long way. I'm a very devout Firefox fan though, and with it's uber-flexibility I'd be a difficult sell on Opera. I would think Firefox could run as lean and mean or more so than Opera on the 770. btw- great discussion on this thread, folks. I like seeing active threads about stuff other than "my squeezebox don't work" and "DRM sucks" (it does, but that's not interesting). cheers, #!/ben adhir Wrote: > > That's exactly what I'm using now as a remote for the slimserver, to > > read my mails without starting the computer or even to surf a little > > > bit. But the screen is simply too small. I'll be glad to pay some > > money for 800x480 compared to Zaurus' 320x240. > > > When you say "too small", you mean for reading mail and surfing? > Because I think it should be more than sufficient for controlling > slimserver -- especially if someone makes a skin/theme for slimserver > which is friendly to that size screen. > > >> had for under 200 from ebay these days. The big plus is that you > get > >> a keyboard. > > > > > > Which is ok to enter URLs or quickly run some commands in the ssh > > client ;-). But I wouldn't seriously consider it to write mails. > > > But it sure would be nice to search for songs. I can't stand trying to > > key song/album/artist names on the slim remote. It's the main thing > which keeps me from using squeezebox more than I do. -- bklaas ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: You'll never walk alone
A cup of wine, under the flowering trees; I drink alone, for no friend is near. Raising my cup I beckon the bright moon, For he, with my shadow, will make three men. The moon, alas, is no drinker of wine; Listless, my shadow creeps about at my side. Yet with the moon as friend and the shadow as slave I must make merry before the Spring is spent. To the songs I sing the moon flickers her beams; In the dance I weave my shadow tangles and breaks. While we were sober, three shared the fun; Now we are drunk, each goes his way. May we long share our odd, inanimate feast, And meet at last on the Cloudy River of the sky. -- Li Po -- JJZolx ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
This device you're working on is very interesting. Thanks for actually looking into building/selling something along these lines. And even bigger thanks for looking for input before hand! Ok, that being said, here's my input (for whatever it's worth): How about selling a configuration where the operating software & apps is running off a compact flash or some solid state card (via IDE for example) and then selling it diskless for the customer to plug-in their own drive(s)? That would allow customers to use drives they already own, or purchase drives that fit their exact needs or whatever drives the marketplace has available). Even though a configuration like this would leave you out of any margin you might add to the drive itself, you may be able to mark up the bare-box a bit higher to make it up the difference (or more!). doh! Did I just say that?!?!? :) lol Another big win would be that you wouldn't have to listen to your customer complain that they think you're overcharging for disk storage space that is too expensive because they can take advantage of some special offer you can't. And you can always sell the same box with disk(s) 'preinstalled'. Anywho, just a thought... Oh yeah, have you thought about raid options too? :) hehe I could go on and on, wait I already have! Doh! Thanks again, and good luck! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ultra238a Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:29 PM To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution Ok well we feel that due to the amount of SB2's that we are now selling each month and the developments coming from Slimdevices that the product is now filtering down into the general populus. People don't want their PC's or Mac's on all the time just so they can get access to their music collection. Anyway, this may all become old news soon :) How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, much faster CPU, runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can run your own software on it? Oh and a projected retail price of £199.99 with a 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our American friends)! Tell me, am I feeling some love now or what? Ultra238a -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] You'll never walk alone
You know when I walk alone, I prefer to be by myself. On May 25, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Steinar Bjaerum wrote: ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: You'll never walk alone
'nuff said!! -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] You'll never walk alone
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[slim] Re: Synchronisation issues with local stream (DAB radio)
What bugs me is that it works fine between all three types of SB on my system for all but one type of source. It seems to me that there must be a clue in that somewhere. - thinking aloud then My recorded music (syncs fine) is all FLAC, and gets converted to MP3 for my SBG and to WAV for my SB1 (v good signal), whilst the SB2s get direct FLAC transmission. Internet radio sources are all streamed in MP3, which I think is true for Alien BBC (after conversion by mplayer). The source I have problems with is DAB radio, which I think streams to slimserver in MP2 and this is passed onto all the flavours of SB as MP2 (48kHz) - someone please contradict me if I've got this wrong. So is the sync just not setup to handle Mp2 or maybe the 48kHz stream? Can I set slimserver to convert MP2 to MP3 (setting in convert.conf?) to test this theory? Chris -- lostboy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Implementing Case Insensitivity
The bug is open: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1548 and Vidur's looking into it. Stay tuned. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
That's exactly what I'm using now as a remote for the slimserver, to read my mails without starting the computer or even to surf a little bit. But the screen is simply too small. I'll be glad to pay some money for 800x480 compared to Zaurus' 320x240. When you say "too small", you mean for reading mail and surfing? Because I think it should be more than sufficient for controlling slimserver -- especially if someone makes a skin/theme for slimserver which is friendly to that size screen. had for under 200 from ebay these days. The big plus is that you get a keyboard. Which is ok to enter URLs or quickly run some commands in the ssh client ;-). But I wouldn't seriously consider it to write mails. But it sure would be nice to search for songs. I can't stand trying to key song/album/artist names on the slim remote. It's the main thing which keeps me from using squeezebox more than I do. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Implementing Case Insensitivity
mherger Wrote: > > a-ha, A-Ha, A-Ha are listed as 3 separate artists as opposed to the > > same artist (Same for artists such as Ani Difranco vs Ani DiFranco, > so > > it isnt the hyphen in the a-ha example). > > This has been discussed lengthy befor: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14278 > > There are two parties: > > a. what you see is what you have in you tags. Fix it using an > appropriate > tool. > b. let's have slimserver do some magic and guess what you might want to > see > > b. will be hard to implement. Case sensitivity is only a start. Next > we'll > have "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", "Tony Levin" vs. "Tony Levin Band", > "22 > Pistepirkko" vs. "22-Pistepirkko", "Björk" vs. "Bjork" etc. Don't > expect > magic to happen and do your homework :-). If you've got a big > collection, > then it's even more important you do it correctly. > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) I have been a long-time SLIM devices customer and because of my enjoyment of the devices that I have owned over the years, I started retagging my library over a year ago meticulously -- I have averted the article issue by making sure any band that uses the obligatory "THE" is wiped-out, i.e., "The Beatles", "The B52s" are, in my library as "Beatles" and "B52s". My post however had nothing to do with the articles, just case insensitivity. After perusing the thread cited above, I must admit I concur with Phil Kerman's stance and confusion as to why anyone would want the listings of "Tower of Power" and "Tower Of Power" to be separate and unique artists. There were good points cited in the thread, yet I still see no argument as to why someone wouldnt want those 2 bands listed as the same. Someone asked, how would the server know which one is correct??? Can it take the first instance?? I dont care if the resultant artist listing is 'Adam and the Ants' as opposed to 'Adam And The Ants' BUT I do care alot that they are listed separately in the hierarchy AND that I have to sift back through my entire library to fix it so that the listing for a particular artist appears in a single location. The articles situation is already an option... and an issue I have successfully averted the first time through my library (which I havent completed yet). I am weary from tagging, someone save me. -- D -- Dondi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
The only other device I've found which fits the bill is a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 -- would need a WIFI card for it, but the whole shebang can be That's exactly what I'm using now as a remote for the slimserver, to read my mails without starting the computer or even to surf a little bit. But the screen is simply too small. I'll be glad to pay some money for 800x480 compared to Zaurus' 320x240. had for under 200 from ebay these days. The big plus is that you get a keyboard. Which is ok to enter URLs or quickly run some commands in the ssh client ;-). But I wouldn't seriously consider it to write mails. Yes, I realize this is sold as a PDA, but let's face it -- it's much more than that -- it's an ultraportable Linux box. When I first read about those guys who run slimserver on devices like the Linksys NSLU2 I thought about trying to install it on my Zaurus. Then I read about those hours you need to install perl... and gave up before I even started :-). But having ssh VNC viewer & server samba client etc. on a pda is fun. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
Make it a 200gig drive and you've got your second usa customer. How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, much faster CPU, runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can run your own software on it? Oh and a projected retail price of £199.99 with a 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our American friends)! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
I work at Nokia, I know someone who works in the group that works on this product. I have no inside knowledge of anything having to do with this product since I am in an entirely different division. I've seen this thing and it's a very good looking device. Really sharp screen and fun to use. I think I may be able to get one of these to play with and I'd be glad to work with someone who is smarter than I am about skins to make a perfect skin for it. Anyone up for it? Victor On May 25, 2005, at 4:23 PM, Michael Herger wrote: this device that Nokia just announced looks like the closest thing to date: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/nokia/nokia-770-internet- appliance-104893.php http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1376 Wow! That's exactly what I've been (well, still am) waiting for! And I wanted to develop this myself once I had won the bingo millions :-) pros: runs embedded linux, looks to be < $350, >4" display, touchscreen, quick boot cons: comes loaded with Opera as a web browser (major bummer) I love Opera! What's your problem about it? Has anyone found a similar niche device that looks like it fits this As I said I have been looking for something like this. What imho comes closest might be the Simpad. But it's EOLed and on ebay still more or (almost as) expensive then these 350$ ViewSonic AirDisplays (big, Microsoft-shackled). Do they still exist? -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
this device that Nokia just announced looks like the closest thing to date: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/nokia/nokia-770-internet-appliance-104893.php http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1376 Wow! That's exactly what I've been (well, still am) waiting for! And I wanted to develop this myself once I had won the bingo millions :-) pros: runs embedded linux, looks to be < $350, >4" display, touchscreen, quick boot cons: comes loaded with Opera as a web browser (major bummer) I love Opera! What's your problem about it? Has anyone found a similar niche device that looks like it fits this As I said I have been looking for something like this. What imho comes closest might be the Simpad. But it's EOLed and on ebay still more or (almost as) expensive then these 350$ ViewSonic AirDisplays (big, Microsoft-shackled). Do they still exist? -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
I've been researching the same thing lately. The Nokia 770 is quite a find -- looks promising -- although I can't see how they're going to sell it for under $350. BTW -- being loaded with Opera is prob not a big deal -- it's running Linux so you can install whatever browser you want on it. As it happens, Opera is prob faster than most other browsers, and that's a big factor on small, slow machines such as these. The only other device I've found which fits the bill is a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 -- would need a WIFI card for it, but the whole shebang can be had for under 200 from ebay these days. The big plus is that you get a keyboard. Yes, I realize this is sold as a PDA, but let's face it -- it's much more than that -- it's an ultraportable Linux box. bklaas wrote: I really like the slimserver web interface, but don't always have a laptop on or near my Squeezebox. I find the remote control/LED display method of queuing songs functional, but a bit clunky. To that end, I've been searching for a reasonably-priced device that was "a little more than a PDA and a little less than a PC". I had a few requirements in mind-- runs a web browser, has a touchscreen, almost-instantaneous bootup, and won't make me squint at an ultra-teeny display. this device that Nokia just announced looks like the closest thing to date: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/nokia/nokia-770-internet-appliance-104893.php http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1376 pros: runs embedded linux, looks to be < $350, >4" display, touchscreen, quick boot cons: comes loaded with Opera as a web browser (major bummer) Has anyone found a similar niche device that looks like it fits this bill? (if you use your TV or a PDA or a Cell Phone to control your Squeezeboxen, good for you, but that's not what I'm shooting for) I gave the PepperPad a look (way too expensive), and have considered ViewSonic AirDisplays (big, Microsoft-shackled). cheers, #!/ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
I'm not sure how to read the diff file. I assume that I remove the lines preceded by '-' and add the lines preceded by '+'? Exactly. You will see that you have to remove the - lines as the + lines don't exist in your code ;-) -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Implementing Case Insensitivity
a-ha, A-Ha, A-Ha are listed as 3 separate artists as opposed to the same artist (Same for artists such as Ani Difranco vs Ani DiFranco, so it isnt the hyphen in the a-ha example). This has been discussed lengthy befor: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14278 There are two parties: a. what you see is what you have in you tags. Fix it using an appropriate tool. b. let's have slimserver do some magic and guess what you might want to see b. will be hard to implement. Case sensitivity is only a start. Next we'll have "Beatles" vs. "The Beatles", "Tony Levin" vs. "Tony Levin Band", "22 Pistepirkko" vs. "22-Pistepirkko", "Björk" vs. "Bjork" etc. Don't expect magic to happen and do your homework :-). If you've got a big collection, then it's even more important you do it correctly. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Nokia 770 Internet Appliance as Slimserver Controller
I really like the slimserver web interface, but don't always have a laptop on or near my Squeezebox. I find the remote control/LED display method of queuing songs functional, but a bit clunky. To that end, I've been searching for a reasonably-priced device that was "a little more than a PDA and a little less than a PC". I had a few requirements in mind-- runs a web browser, has a touchscreen, almost-instantaneous bootup, and won't make me squint at an ultra-teeny display. this device that Nokia just announced looks like the closest thing to date: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/nokia/nokia-770-internet-appliance-104893.php http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1376 pros: runs embedded linux, looks to be < $350, >4" display, touchscreen, quick boot cons: comes loaded with Opera as a web browser (major bummer) Has anyone found a similar niche device that looks like it fits this bill? (if you use your TV or a PDA or a Cell Phone to control your Squeezeboxen, good for you, but that's not what I'm shooting for) I gave the PepperPad a look (way too expensive), and have considered ViewSonic AirDisplays (big, Microsoft-shackled). cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Implementing Case Insensitivity
John Hernandez Wrote: > > Such an option might fix counts (ie library statistics reporting), > assuming no counterexamples exist, but when it comes to actual Browse > and Search results, a proper implementation requires some interactive > mechanism to tell Slimserver which of the detected variants is the > correct one to display. I can think of some non-interactive > compromises, like defaulting to all caps, but these are all > suboptimal. > The bottom line is that you can't just "ignore" the case, but rather > you want to justify or standardize case for output. > > While you wait, consider running a tag editing tool that will help fix > your tags. I've seen some that claim to do case fixing, like > http://www.wma-mp3.com/mp3_tag_studio.html but never tried them. Even > if your library is large and haphazardly tagged, pecking away at it > may > prove worthwhile. I use Tag & Rename and there is an option for Capitalization of first word. However, since tagging my huge library has taken some time, Tag & Rename has since abandoned the ALL MUSIC service and instituted Amazon.com as the source. Once imported, there are variants on case etc. Examples that reflect the most frequency of case inconsistency are words like 'of', 'and', 'the'. On one album Dion and the Blmonts may be represented as 'Dion and the Belmonts' while the next album may be represented as 'Dion And the Belmonts' while another appears as 'Dion And The Belmonts'. In the interim I have been going back through the library and trying to standardize the case on the artists that have multiple-listings based on case sensitivity; I am up to 'A' so far :) -- D -- Dondi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, much faster CPU, Much faster than what? Could you already give some idea about the machine's specs (cpu, ram)? runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can run your own software on it? Linux? Oh and a projected retail price of £199.99 with a 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our American friends)! And in european non-EU Switzerland :-)? Will you only sell directly? -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
make it a 200gig drive and you've got your first usa customer. > > How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, much > faster CPU, runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can run your > own software on it? Oh and a projected retail price of £199.99 with a > 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our American friends)! > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Implementing Case Insensitivity
Dondi wrote: > Currently running May 20th version of the nightlies and (not sure if > this bug existed prior or not) but the # of Artists is influenced by > capitalization in this version for sure. > > a-ha, A-Ha, A-Ha are listed as 3 separate artists as opposed to the > same artist (Same for artists such as Ani Difranco vs Ani DiFranco, so > it isnt the hyphen in the a-ha example). > > Is there, or could there be, an option to IGNORE CAPITALIZATION/CASE?? > Such an option might fix counts (ie library statistics reporting), assuming no counterexamples exist, but when it comes to actual Browse and Search results, a proper implementation requires some interactive mechanism to tell Slimserver which of the detected variants is the correct one to display. I can think of some non-interactive compromises, like defaulting to all caps, but these are all suboptimal. The bottom line is that you can't just "ignore" the case, but rather you want to justify or standardize case for output. While you wait, consider running a tag editing tool that will help fix your tags. I've seen some that claim to do case fixing, like http://www.wma-mp3.com/mp3_tag_studio.html but never tried them. Even if your library is large and haphazardly tagged, pecking away at it may prove worthwhile. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NAS Drive Running Slimserver Solution
Ok well we feel that due to the amount of SB2's that we are now selling each month and the developments coming from Slimdevices that the product is now filtering down into the general populus. People don't want their PC's or Mac's on all the time just so they can get access to their music collection. Anyway, this may all become old news soon :) How would you guys like the sound of a box with Gigabit Ethernet, much faster CPU, runs Slimserver out of the box and.. you can run your own software on it? Oh and a projected retail price of £199.99 with a 120Gb (maybe a 160Gb) price point ($320 for our American friends)! Tell me, am I feeling some love now or what? Ultra238a -- ultra238a ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Implementing Case Insensitivity
Currently running May 20th version of the nightlies and (not sure if this bug existed prior or not) but the # of Artists is influenced by capitalization in this version for sure. a-ha, A-Ha, A-Ha are listed as 3 separate artists as opposed to the same artist (Same for artists such as Ani Difranco vs Ani DiFranco, so it isnt the hyphen in the a-ha example). Is there, or could there be, an option to IGNORE CAPITALIZATION/CASE?? This would be of great help for those with large libraries :) -- Dondi -- Dondi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
Firmware version 40. -- jonsandys ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
What firmware version? -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
kdf, I'm not sure how to read the diff file. I assume that I remove the lines preceded by '-' and add the lines preceded by '+'?On 5/25/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Roy,since you now have ActivePerl installed, could you try this patch and let me know if that works. If you have to patch manually, it shouldn't be too badsince its only 3 lines that are changing.-kdf___Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Do meddle in the affairs of Dragons,for you are crunchy and good with Tabasco. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
Happens in 5.4.1 as well for me. -- jonsandys ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
As I said in another thread, mine started doing this suddenly after more than a year of faultless use. That's why I'm starting to suspect (or maybe just hoping) it's related to a recent Slimserver or firmware update. -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
Still happening with me - just about to try and track down a network cable so I can wire it up and see if the same thing happens. Regardless though, I don't think it's a problem with the unit itself, as the same thing happened with my first one before it was replaced. -- jonsandys ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
Roy, since you now have ActivePerl installed, could you try this patch and let me know if that works. If you have to patch manually, it shouldn't be too bad since its only 3 lines that are changing. -kdf itunes.diff Description: Binary data ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
On a networked (netware) drive. I don't start slimserver until after I've logged into the network but for some reason it can't open the library file. If I comment out line 233 and set up iTunes manually it works fine after that.On 5/25/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Roy Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> kdf,> I tried your fix and it didn't work. However I noticed that you commented> out line 232 in itunes.pl and not 233. If line 233 is comented out both the > use iTunes option and the iTunes tab appear in the web interface. (I> installed Active perl 2.8 to test).I know, but the the itunes option should only be there if everything is ok.line 233 properly removes that, but really shouldn't remove the tab (even though it does).strangely, on windows, you shouldn't have had to change any itunes settings tohave it work based on a default itunes install. where is your itunes xml file?-k___ Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Do meddle in the affairs of Dragons,for you are crunchy and good with Tabasco. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
Quoting Roy Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > kdf, > I tried your fix and it didn't work. However I noticed that you commented > out line 232 in itunes.pl and not 233. If line 233 is comented out both the > use iTunes option and the iTunes tab appear in the web interface. (I > installed Active perl 2.8 to test). I know, but the the itunes option should only be there if everything is ok. line 233 properly removes that, but really shouldn't remove the tab (even though it does). strangely, on windows, you shouldn't have had to change any itunes settings to have it work based on a default itunes install. where is your itunes xml file? -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
kdf, I tried your fix and it didn't work. However I noticed that you commented out line 232 in itunes.pl and not 233. If line 233 is comented out both the use iTunes option and the iTunes tab appear in the web interface. (I installed Active perl 2.8 to test).On 5/25/05, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Roy,I've merged in the commented line at svn change 3290. Hopefully this will have made it in time for today's build. Give that a try and let us know if thisgives you back the settings tab sso that you can reset the locations.-kdf___Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Do meddle in the affairs of Dragons,for you are crunchy and good with Tabasco. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Showing now playing at the start of each track
dean Wrote: > That's a great suggestion. Can you file an enhancement request on > http://bugs.slimdevices.com Done: bug 1607. Max -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
Are Dave, Jon, Andy and adhir still having problems? If not, what fixed it? If so, is the problem that Dean mentioned in the 6.1 nightlies likely to be the cause (I'm running 6.0.2)? Will reverting to 5.4.1 be likely to help? -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5/24/2005 nightly and iTunes 4.8
Roy, I've merged in the commented line at svn change 3290. Hopefully this will have made it in time for today's build. Give that a try and let us know if this gives you back the settings tab sso that you can reset the locations. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where can i find 6.0.1 - trunk ?
Hi, I thought i would burn some midnight oil, what else would one do on PTO. I have been a very happy slim user, and have had a bunch of friends move to slim when they see how easy it is to free your music. So i thought that the Mini mac would make a GREAT media hub. It arrived on Monday, and well here we are. What i have is a Mini Mac 1.42GHz with 1GB RAM, 80G internal hard drive and 2 external Maxtor 1 touch drives attached through Firewire. All the Music is on one of the Maxtor drives. The Mini Mac is at os/x 10.4.1 with Itunes at 4.8.I have about 1300 albums with approximately 13k tracks. I had this all running on a emac at 700Mhz with 868M of RAM with a version of 6.0.2 I proceeded to downloaded 6.0.3 and it spun the CPU at 95% basically continuously, the Squeezebox is blank and never wakes up. Web interface times out. I then downloaded 6.1. It spun the CPU for about 10 mins. Then told me that i had 10 albums from 5 artists. Then i turned of itunes and typed in the path to my music, after about 2 hours slimserver had found about 1200 albums. I presume that this is not normal. I then downloaded 6.0.2. It immediately came up with 664 albums with itunes enabled, but nothing in the playlists, and after about 4 minutes the squeezebox went blank. The Slimserver (perl) was sitting at about 40% CPU which is not of any real concern. So i left it alone for about 15 minutes and when i went back i now have 1089 albums and the playlists are full of songs. HAHA almost back to normal, and the CPU has settled down to 3%...However i think there is still something wrong with my setup, moving to faster processor with more memory makes things that much slower ? I'm willing to provide you with whatever debugs can i providePlease let me know. Now i can listen to Virgin radio again on the deck now that somebody has turned the heat lamps on in CA ;-) Sláinte Ken Kenneth V. Crozier wrote: What i'm seeing is a collection of things that have been talked about on the list already. I'll try each one and see what happens. What i do know 1)i download the current 6.0.2 that is available from the download page the CPU spins at 90% for about a minute maybe longer, goes idle for 10 secs and then repeatsand the squeezebox goes blank 2)I download the 6.0.1 from the 6.0.1 folder and i'm missing about 300 albums, and lots and lots of tracks on the albums. They are all present in itunes i'll try the 6.0.3 and 6.1 and see what happens with it. Like i said i have 6.0.1 trunk on the emac and it runs fine is there something that i should turn on for debug ? Sláinte Ken Michael Herger wrote: I know that 6.0.1 - trunk worked on my emac, so i want to try it on the mini, but i cant seem to locate it The trunk version is always a snapshot of a given moment. You'll have to forget about 6.0.1 trunk as it's now at least 6.0.3. And the snapshots aren't kept forever. BTW: if you have problems with 6.0.3 and 6.1 I don't think 6.0.1 would work, anyway. But if you give some information about your problems you might be helped solving the real problem. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
