[slim] Re: Problems!SB3

2006-04-21 Thread Wirrunna

Daveo, did you resolve the problem ?
If so, let us all know what it was and how you fixed it.


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread danco

Are you using the Execute Script plugin? 

I had some difficulty understanding the instructions, but finally
worked it out. One can run a script manually by selecting it in one of
the options and pressing Play.

If one want the srcipt to work automatically, after selecting the
script in the relevant option (and no script in the other options) one
goes back to the initial screen and then one has to press Play  (there
is a message "press Play to activate").


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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bronnie


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Hi,

i love the combo 770 / squeezebox, am wondering where to ask for some
requests regarding the 770 skin.. could musicmagic plugin support be
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[slim] Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread rjay

Is it safe to run 6.2.2 on a Linkstation ?? I've been running 6.2.1
without problems unti tech support suggested that the stuttering
problem I was having with Squeezenetworks would be solved by 6.2.2. 

So, I installed 6.2.2 in a separate folder but kept the same data &
prefs folder. 6.2.2 starts fine but all my prefs & data have
disappeared and when I do a rebuild of the library it makes all the
right noises and looks like it's building it but at the end of the
process it's still empty.

Any ideas ?


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

I'd just like to point out that, once you've shut down the hard disks
and the monitor, you've already saved 3/4 of the possible electrical
savings. 

Powering down the hard disk and monitor have worked correctly since
windows 98.

The Pareto Principal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle)
says you've already done most of what you need to do (or can do
simply).


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[slim] Re: Quirky artist list behaviour in 6.2.2

2006-04-21 Thread chris . mason

No one got any thoughts on this?


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread bigjules

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> I'd just like to point out that, once you've shut down the hard disks
> and the monitor, you've already saved 3/4 of the possible electrical
> savings. 
> 

If you're sending your machine into suspend, the power is only
maintained to the devices that can wake from standby, and to the ram.
(and what little of the cpu needs to still work).. even shuts down all
the fans.

-- insert picture of me hugging a tree here


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[slim] Wake-on-LAN: something new...?

2006-04-21 Thread Magwitch

Does anyone know of a Squeezebox setting to control how long the SB
waits for a server to come up after sending WOL packets? I haven't been
able to find one myself.

My little 2.5Ghz Celeron box running XP Professional can wake up from
hibernation in a little under 30 seconds; but that's not quick enough
for my SB2, which fails to connect every time.

Retrying the connection via a remote makes the SB2 try again, then it
powers itself off. If I then power it up again, it connects
immediately.

This is a bit of a nuisance as I use a Harmony universal remote, and
have to go through a lot of button pushing via its interactive help to
coax the SB2 to power up again after failing to connect. The original
SB2 remote is safely tucked away in a drawer, otherwise I'd be drowning
in high impact plastic and soft rubber buttons :)

I can program a button on the remote to toggle the power for me; but
I'd really like a simple timeout I can tweak to step around the problem
altogether.

Optimising the server PC to come to life quicker doesn't seem a likely
option, as I'm using hibernation mode so the state of the machine is
saved out to disk. I've tried standby mode to see if that's quicker,
but it still isn't fast enough.

Any help or sympathy much appreciated!

Nick.


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[slim] Re: DIsabling scan (rescan) at startup

2006-04-21 Thread Philip Meyer

I would like to turn off the scan at startup too.  I use the rescan
plugin to do a scan every night at 3am, so don't need a scan when it
starts up.

Like you say, during windows startup, there is quite a lot of disk
thrashing as several processes are accessing the filesystem.

Phil


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[slim] Re: Diagrams for 'whole house audio'

2006-04-21 Thread bobharp

JJZolx Wrote: 
> If I were doing whole-house audio, I'd do this as well in rooms and
> areas where I just needed background music - kitchen, dining room,
> bathrooms, halls, patio, etc.

I concur, I just wanted to expose/share other methods of achieving this
solution.

JJZolx Wrote: 
> Another nice advantage over say a CD player as source is that you can
> control the player from anywhere in the house from a networked
> computer.

Or wireless handheld!  Wish I had one.  How about an in wall keypad?  
Who has in-wall control (AMX or Xantech) for their setup? 


JJZolx Wrote: 
> I know a lot of people are happy synching a bunch of Squeezeboxes to
> tackle the issue of whole-house audio.  But I just don't see it as
> being convenient or reliable enough to be worth the trouble.

I have had minor annoyances with this.  A stop and start usually
resolves the issue.  I'm just geeky enough to love the technology
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[slim] How to identify which Squeezebox 3 I have

2006-04-21 Thread tomsi42

Hi,

Now that SB3 Wireless have an internal antenna; what is the quickest
way of identifying a SB3 (wired-only or wireless).


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

I understand what power-down or standbye does, I have one machine that
does it (right - out of 10 or so). 

My point was, you can get 75% of the tree hugging for essentially no
work, and the last 20% you have to sweat bullets for, so why bother?


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[slim] Re: How to identify which Squeezebox 3 I have

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Lanctot

I guess the only way would be to start it up.  If it asks which
networking method you want to use, wired or wireless, then you have a
wireless.


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[slim] Good explanation about ADCs

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Lanctot

I found a nice, fairly easy article on ADCs (analog-to-digital
converters) that includes a good explanation of various aspects of
digital audio off a CD:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/317/1


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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bklaas


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It's on my list--
http://mcstayinskool.tadalist.com/lists/public/170297

Q: Is Music Magic a pay service? Also, the link on slimdevices
redirects me to Music IP...is that the same thing? Does Music Magic
still exist?

#!/ben


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Re: [slim] Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread Geoff B
On 4/20/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:25:15 -0500, "Ben Sandee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
> > On 4/20/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Finally, the last issue would be security.  You would probably want to
> > > > investigate some sort of VPN solution between the two networks because
> > > > SlimServer really isn't designed to be left open to the internet.  There
> > > > have been numerous threads about this.
> > >
> > > VPN is overkill and adds to the latency and complexity. A simple IP
> > > address filter in your router or firewall should be just as effective. I
> > > believe even slimserver has a way to restrict access to certain ip
> > > addresses.
> >
> >
> > Will I would disagree, but YMMV as always.
> >
> > VPN is certainly not overkill if the OP is at all concerned about
> > security
> > of anything on either of the networks (not just the music data in
> > transit).
> > SlimServer could easily be used as a vector for an attack.  The only
> > thing
> > preventing attacks is the relatively low installed base of SlimServer as
> > compared to the number of computers on the internet.
> >
> > IP filters and MAC filters are trivial to bypass and a VPN solution
> > doesn't
>
> Please explain, IMHO IP filters are essentially impossible to bypass
> without the attacker having insider access to the internal network of
> the target's ISP. A risk I'm sure most of us would be willing to take.
>
> > add dramatic latency in my experience.  Most of the overhead in VPN
> > solutions is during the setup phase (similar to SSL).  Once running they
> > are
> > very efficient and very secure.
>
> I didn't say anything about dramaticality, but they unquestionably add
> latency and they sure do add to the complexity, since the VPN links need
> to be up all the time for this to work. I try to maintain several VPN
> links and I'm  sad to say they do have the tendency to go down.
>
> I maintain that a VPN solution is overkill for allowing an SB in a
> remote location to access a slimserver in your home. Running a VPN would
> be a good idea for allowing a remote laptop access to the home network.
> That's what I use it for all the time. I mostly use a Windows PPTP
> tunnel, but the Hamachi P2P VPN is a very nice lightweight alternative.
> Useless for an SB, but SoftSqueeze could probably run over it.
>
> Regards,
> Peter

I had to think about this one; I've always considered online security
as a "you can't be too paranoid" type issue, but that should be
tempered with risk vs. effort.  If you don't have a PC at the remote
end, of course, there isn't much else you can do.

PC requirements aside, presuming that you didn't put any security in
place apart from router IP filtering at the both ends, that would
still leave you open to whatever exploits your routers expose.  For
example, there's at least one router I read about a while back that
shuts down and requires a hard boot if (a) IP filtering is on and (b)
it detects more than a certain number of port scans from unauthorized
IPs.  Means that you have no music for the rest of the weekend, unless
there is someone at home you can call to reset it.

I think a far better, and more stable solution, would be to set up a
SSH tunnel between the two.  This works really well for me streaming
from work, although it does mean you need a PC at the remote end. 
There's plenty of good free software for doing it, for all common
platforms, and its flexible enough to deal with most situations.  The
only thing I haven't tried is forwarding packets to and from a
hardware SB; I've always used SoftSqueeze or SqueezeSlave (thanks,
Richard!).  Has anybody tried this?

Cheers
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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread Kyle


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MusicIP is the new name for MusicMagic.  There is a free trial, which
provides all features for a limited time, I think.  The cost is $29.95
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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bklaas


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I'm seeing nothing about cost except "free" on the MusicIP website. Can
anyone confirm that? I'm not interested in opening my wallet for
this...

Also, does the software manipulate ID3 tags? I'm kind of anal about my
ID3 tags...

I'm going to download the software and poke around for a few minutes,
but any insight is appreciated.

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Lanctot

geoffb Wrote: 
> PC requirements aside, presuming that you didn't put any security in
> place apart from router IP filtering at the both ends, that would still
> leave you open to whatever exploits your routers expose.  For example,
> there's at least one router I read about a while back that shuts down
> and requires a hard boot if (a) IP filtering is on and (b) it detects
> more than a certain number of port scans from unauthorized IPs.  Means
> that you have no music for the rest of the weekend, unless there is
> someone at home you can call to reset it.
> 

I believe what was referred to is IP filtering by SlimServer itself,
i.e. Server Settings - Security - Block Incoming Connections.

I suppose IP blocking at the router would eliminate all access attempts
to the SlimServer machine, from SlimServer clients or otherwise.  I'm
wondering if it would offer any additional protection though - while
the router would let traffic through SlimServer wouldn't respond to any
connection attempts.


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Re: [slim] Re: Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread Geoff B
On 4/21/06, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> geoffb Wrote:
> > PC requirements aside, presuming that you didn't put any security in
> > place apart from router IP filtering at the both ends, that would still
> > leave you open to whatever exploits your routers expose.  For example,
> > there's at least one router I read about a while back that shuts down
> > and requires a hard boot if (a) IP filtering is on and (b) it detects
> > more than a certain number of port scans from unauthorized IPs.  Means
> > that you have no music for the rest of the weekend, unless there is
> > someone at home you can call to reset it.
>
> I believe what was referred to is IP filtering by SlimServer itself,
> i.e. Server Settings - Security - Block Incoming Connections.
>
> I suppose IP blocking at the router would eliminate all access attempts
> to the SlimServer machine, from SlimServer clients or otherwise.  I'm
> wondering if it would offer any additional protection though - while
> the router would let traffic through SlimServer wouldn't respond to any
> connection attempts.
>

Ah, I see that I misread the original suggestion, although I have to
say, I don't think this changes the security issue.
Although it's unlikely, given the relatively few SS instances running
on the internet, wouldn't it be possible to spoof a source IP and
issue commands to the SS - presuming that you didn't care about the
return packets?
This is reaching into the realm of 'unlikely, so don't bother worrying
about it', but it's still a possiblity.  Since SS usually runs as a
semi-previledged process, at least on Windows, with read/write access
to the hard drive, any buffer overflows or other problems would
presumably make the server a liability.

But I'm probably unduly biased because I enjoy being able to listen to
music in hotel rooms, while I'm travelling, via SS.  This of course
precludes IP filtering, so I always considered it unsecure :)

Cheers
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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread aubuti

I have safely run several builds of 6.2.2 on a LinkStation HG. I'm not
sure where your problem is, but the first thing I would suggest is to
double-check your permissions. Other relevant information would be (1)
how are you starting slimserver (2) which user is running slimserver
(root or someone else), (3) where is slimserver writing its files (log,
database cache, preferences, etc.).


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[slim] Re: Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread Mark Lanctot

geoffb Wrote: 
> Ah, I see that I misread the original suggestion, although I have to
> say, I don't think this changes the security issue. Although it's
> unlikely, given the relatively few SS instances running on the
> internet, wouldn't it be possible to spoof a source IP and issue
> commands to the SS - presuming that you didn't care about the return
> packets?
> This is reaching into the realm of 'unlikely, so don't bother worrying
> about it', but it's still a possiblity.  Since SS usually runs as a
> semi-previledged process, at least on Windows, with read/write access
> to the hard drive, any buffer overflows or other problems would
> presumably make the server a liability.
> 
> But I'm probably unduly biased because I enjoy being able to listen to
> music in hotel rooms, while I'm travelling, via SS.  This of course
> precludes IP filtering, so I always considered it unsecure :)
> 

Yes, if the attacker were to spoof the IP address, they could just walk
right in to SlimServer.  And once they were in, there's an extensive set
of documentation both for the web interface and the CLI / TCP/IP
interface explaining just what they can do and how to do it.

It's fortunate that SlimServer isn't widely known outside of the people
here, but security by obscurity is not much better than no security at
all.  :-)  I like the fact that security is built into SS but I doubt
if it has been subject to intense, repeated attack to see what breaks,
unlike certain other programs!

I don't require any external access, have set IP address blocking, CSRF
protection to High and no port forwarding.  External port scans indicate
these ports do not respond, just like all my other ports.  If it was me,
I'd go for SSH.  I'm not sure if VPN surpasses SSH protection or if it
can be used to supplement it.


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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread rjay

Thanks. It turns out that I'd completely forgotten that I shouldn't copy
the DBI folder and certain other parts of the SS build over to the
Linkstation. Once I'd removed those and waited 2 hours for a rebuild
all was well.

Whilst I've got you though :) Can I ask what settings you have for
Database Temporary File Tuning (SQLite) & Database Cache Size Tuning
(SQLite) under Performance ??  I haven't tweaked them from their
defaults - have you ?  It just seems like a bad idea to be using RAM as
storage on a Linkstation 


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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread aubuti

I'll have to check those settings later when I'm home where the
LinkStation is. Does your LS have 64MB or 128MB of RAM?


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Re: [slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread kdf


On 21-Apr-06, at 7:23 AM, bklaas wrote:



I'm seeing nothing about cost except "free" on the MusicIP website. Can
anyone confirm that? I'm not interested in opening my wallet for
this...

you can easily get a trial key, and wendell (code guru for musicIP) is 
very generous with longer term keys for those developing musicIP 
features if needed.  However, I think the new plan over there is to 
allow the http API as a free feature.  I'll can provide you with a 
simple patch to add the mix links to the browse modes, and all you need 
is a new fitting graphic for b_mix.gif (moodlogic) and b_mmmix.gif 
(musicIP)

-kdf

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[slim] Re: Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread snarlydwarf

Except it's very very difficult to do IP spoofing against a modern
operating system.


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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread rjay

Good question  I'm not sure. I know it's a mips 250gb model, quite
recent.


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[slim] OT: WZC affecting WPA but not WEP??

2006-04-21 Thread aubuti

Okay, apologies up front because this is really a wireless question, and
not a SqueezeBox question. But my google searches so far haven't yielded
the answer, and I figure some of you know the answer.

My home network has been running solidly, albeit insecurely, with WEP
for a few years. I didn't go to WPA because of an old laptop that's
still running Win2K, and being too cheap to buy supplicant software.
Now that I've learned there's free software (from McAfee) that will let
me run WPA-PSK, I decided to switch the wireless security to WPA (2 XP
laptops, 1 Win2K laptop, and one wireless SB3). The wireless router is
a Netgear WGR614v3, with the latest firmware. 

Almost as soon as I switched to WPA, I started getting dropped
connections on the 2 XP laptops. They would usually reconnect after a
fashion, but it was bad enough to be a real pain. I didn't notice the
SB3 or the Win2K laptop having problems, although I wasn't paying a lot
of attention to them, either. Reading up it seems that XP's Wireless
Zero Configuration (WZC) is to blame for a lot of this kind of
connection problem. And that would be a good explanation since it seems
that only the XP boxes were affected. 

But what is not clear to me is why WZC has not been a problem with WEP.
Does WZC come into play (if you let it) only with WPA and not with WEP?

This weekend I'll try turning off WZC, but I'd appreciate any insights
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Re: [slim] How to identify which Squeezebox 3 I have

2006-04-21 Thread dean blackketter

Look at the bottom.  The wired-only ones say "wired-only".

-dean

On Apr 21, 2006, at 5:34 AM, tomsi42 wrote:



Hi,

Now that SB3 Wireless have an internal antenna; what is the quickest
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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread dborn

I would venture that you have 64MB.

I run SS 6.2.2 (recent nightly) on my HG300 (with 128MB) and use the
default value of (Use RAM and 1) and it works fine.

Daniel


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[slim] Importing existing playlists?

2006-04-21 Thread Monty

What am I missing here? 

Recently upgraded to 6.2.x (linux) from a much older version. I have
many existing playlists (.m3u) and I want use them in the new version.

Checked the forums here and I don't see the answer. I realize the new
version stores everything in a database. But how do I load the old
playlists?

SS Doesn't see them in the save directory nor does it find them in my
library folder.

I can create and save new playlists with no problems.

Should SS be seeing these? Do I need to manauly import these somehow?


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[slim] Re: Importing existing playlists?

2006-04-21 Thread tom permutt

I put them in the Slim playlists directory (not the music directory) and
Rescan Playlists from the Server Settings.  It works fine.

Two notes, though I doubt they are relevant:  I'm running Windows, not
Linux.  Also, there is no absolute standard for what exactly an m3u
playlist should look like, so that some applications write files that
other applications choke on, even though they both claim to handle m3u.


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[slim] Re: Possible??? - Remote Squeezebox

2006-04-21 Thread rudholm

geoffb Wrote: 
> On 4/21/06, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> > geoffb Wrote:
> > > PC requirements aside, presuming that you didn't put any security
> in
> > > place apart from router IP filtering at the both ends, that would
> still
> > > leave you open to whatever exploits your routers expose.  For
> example,
> > > there's at least one router I read about a while back that shuts
> down
> > > and requires a hard boot if (a) IP filtering is on and (b) it
> detects
> > > more than a certain number of port scans from unauthorized IPs. 
> Means
> > > that you have no music for the rest of the weekend, unless there
> is
> > > someone at home you can call to reset it.
> >
> > I believe what was referred to is IP filtering by SlimServer itself,
> > i.e. Server Settings - Security - Block Incoming Connections.
> >
> > I suppose IP blocking at the router would eliminate all access
> attempts
> > to the SlimServer machine, from SlimServer clients or otherwise. 
> I'm
> > wondering if it would offer any additional protection though - while
> > the router would let traffic through SlimServer wouldn't respond to
> any
> > connection attempts.
> >
> 
> Ah, I see that I misread the original suggestion, although I have to
> say, I don't think this changes the security issue.
> Although it's unlikely, given the relatively few SS instances running
> on the internet, wouldn't it be possible to spoof a source IP and
> issue commands to the SS - presuming that you didn't care about the
> return packets?
> This is reaching into the realm of 'unlikely, so don't bother worrying
> about it', but it's still a possiblity.

I'd say "unlikely" is a bit weak of a word.  "Approaching impossible"
is closer to it.

If you can predict TCP Sequence Numbers, it is possible to send packets
that appear to be from a trusted source, but you never get any return
packets.

To successfully cause damage by pretending to be a trusted slimserver
client, the slimserver would have to be running on an OS with
predictable TCP sequence numbers (Windows, MacOS X, and Linux are all
quite secure in this regard) AND the attacker would have to know which
source IP address was trusted, AND the attacker would have to know of a
bug in slimserver that could be exploited in a way that causes damage,
AND the slimserver would have to be running as a user on the host OS
that had sufficient privileges to cause that damage.

And besides all of that, slimserver just isn't that big of a prize for
anyone to bother.  There are far jucier and lower-hanging fruit.  If
you or your systems are of *that* much interest to someone, there are
far easier ways to gain access or cause damage, one of which would be
to attack PPTP.  As implemented by Microsoft, PPTP is more of a
security liability than Slimserver.


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[slim] Re: OT: professional-audio "slim device"?

2006-04-21 Thread tom permutt

Are you sure you need to control the recording levels as tightly as you
think?  On, say, a cassette tape, "too quiet" means not only that you
have to turn the gain up to hear it, but also that when you do, you
hear a lot of hiss.  Serious recordists will gasp at this, but you may
find with digital recording that you can just set a level that is never
too high and then normalize everything that is "too quiet" and still get
the quality you need.

There are also some bits of software that might be well suited to your
application.  Loop Recorder (www.looprecorder.de), for example, can
just run all the time:  you don't even need to "hit record."  With that
and a one-size recording level, you might not have to think about
controlling the recorder at all.

Unless one of your requirements is no postprocessing.  Do you need to
have a finished product right away, or can somebody come later and, at
a minimum, trim and normalize?


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[slim] Re: Running 6.2.2 on a Linkstation NAS

2006-04-21 Thread aubuti

rjay Wrote: 
> Good question  I'm not sure. I know it's a mips 250gb model, quite
> recent.

That would have 64MB, and my guess is that you'd be best staying with
the defaults for database tuning. If your LS has the `top' utility, you
can see how much memory and CPU cycles slimserver and other processes
are taking, which can be helpful if you want to experiment with
settings.

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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread cvj

danco Wrote: 
> Are you using the Execute Script plugin? 
> 
> I had some difficulty understanding the instructions, but finally
> worked it out. One can run a script manually by selecting it in one of
> the options and pressing Play.
> 
> If one want the srcipt to work automatically, after selecting the
> script in the relevant option (and no script in the other options) one
> goes back to the initial screen and then one has to press Play  (there
> is a message "press Play to activate").

Yes, I am trying to use the Execute Script plugin. BUT, I can't get it
to work manually or automatically, per your suggestions. And I don't
see the message "press Play to activate" on the initial screen... what
am I doing wrong?


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[slim] Re: OT: professional-audio "slim device"?

2006-04-21 Thread azinck3

Thanks, Tom.

Well, some post-processing is acceptable (we do this to prepare the
files for streaming off our website).  But as I mentioned in an earlier
post, we need to be able burn cds immediately after the service for a
few homebound elderly. So we do need to have acceptable quality right
out of the gate.

The dynamics issue can largely be solved by a compressor, but you'd
really be surprised by how easily things can get screwed
up--particularly with inexperienced volunteers.  We have a different
band every week (4 bands on rotation) and different sound reinforcement
volunteers every week (5 teams on rotation).  Channels are constantly
moving around and if someone's not real attentive (our volunteers have
a lot of other responsibilities--there's not a dedicated recording
engineer) it's pretty easy for a really low (unsalvageably low) or
really high level on some particular channel to slip through (there's
no way to monitor aux send levels with VU meter on the mixer itself). 
That's why we need some way for someone to be able to easily glance at
a VU meter to be sure things are in the right ballpark.

Well, guys, if one of you comes across the perfect piece of hardware
for this application then let me know, otherwise, I think we're going
to go with the following setup:

aux send from mixer into a compressor (with VU meters) into a USB 2.0
interface, into the computer.  Per Pat's recommendations I'll be
working on some macros to make control a bit easier, and maybe pick up
a Contour Shuttle Pro for my transport controls.  This will get me 95%
of the way towards where I want to be.  

Thanks again for lending an ear and a hand.  

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[slim] squeezebox going cheap in san diego

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

It's ship only to the US, so I can't bid on it, but others might be
interested.

http://tinyurl.com/lvp7e


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[slim] Re: squeezebox going cheap in san diego

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

Oh, it's an SB1


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread danco

Oh right, you're using SlimServer 6.5, while I use 6.1. You have got the
correct version of the plugin, I hope.

On my setup, when you choose the Execute Script plugin a right-pointing
arrow is shown. So you press the Right arrow on the remote, and
immediately get a set of options, of which the first is "Press Play to
activate", the second is "Execute on Open File", and so on.

If you are getting something different, it is either a change in the
script (which it may well be) or some rrror in your installation. If
the script has changed significantly, it will need someone else to
respond.


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[slim] Re: Importing existing playlists?

2006-04-21 Thread Monty

Yea I tried exactly that. 

They were orginaly created with an older version of SS so I expected
them to work. I'll have to save a new one and try and compare the
formats old vs. new. 

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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread vikmurthy


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Ben,

I wasn't sure if this was something that others had experienced or not,
but thought I'd share it anyway.  Just for reference, I encountered this
while using Firefox on the laptop that runs SlimServer (I wasn't using
the Nokia 770, although I suspect that wouldn't have changed anything).


When I am navigating on the Playlist page through a list of multiple
songs and click the X next to the first song in the Playlist to delete
it, it appears that the skin begins deleting the playlist from the
bottom up instead of deleting the particular song that I actually
wanted removed.  

There might be an underlying logic for why the skin does this, but I
wanted to make sure that it was an intentional feature with you, as
opposed to a bug.  

- Vik


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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bklaas


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Nice find, Vik. That's a bug, to be sure. Only affects the first track
listed on any playlist page. Will work on a fix.
#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread cvj

danco Wrote: 
> Oh right, you're using SlimServer 6.5, while I use 6.1. You have got the
> correct version of the plugin, I hope.
> 
> On my setup, when you choose the Execute Script plugin a right-pointing
> arrow is shown. So you press the Right arrow on the remote, and
> immediately get a set of options, of which the first is "Press Play to
> activate", the second is "Execute on Open File", and so on.
> 
> If you are getting something different, it is either a change in the
> script (which it may well be) or some rrror in your installation. If
> the script has changed significantly, it will need someone else to
> respond.

I have the 6.5 version of the plugin. The options do not include "Press
Play to activate" so that explains that. (Options are
1)Execute on Play File, 2) execute on Stop, 3) execute on power on,4)
execute on power off and 5) execute on open file).

Perhaps someone else has successfully used the 6.5 version of the
plugin on a window XP (SP2) box and can steer me further???


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Re: [slim] Re: Album art on the squeezebox?

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Colley
I did a prototype, see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/archive/index.php/t-11062.html

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[slim] Re: How to identify which Squeezebox 3 I have

2006-04-21 Thread tomsi42

dean Wrote: 
> Look at the bottom.  The wired-only ones say "wired-only".
> 
> -dean
> 

Indeed it does - it is easy to overlook until you know what to look
for.

Does the wireless one say wireless or nothing?


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread danco

So I don't know enough about the 6.5 plugin to make reliable
suggestions.

I assume you have the script for "Power Off" selected. I assume that,
like the 6.1 version, it must have an option for "No Script" and an
option for each script you have, and that you have selected the option
for your script.

It certainly could do no harm to see if the script worked when set for
one of the other events, for instance on Stop, or even on Play File.

You said in an earlier post "When I select the startup.bat as the
option from and press the "Play" button, ther SB3 screen says "running
script" and points to the "Script" directory - so that seems to be OK."
It's not clear to me if the script did definitely run and act on your PC
- the message from the Squeezebox really just means that it has told the
computer to run the script, not that it did run successfully.

Again, Windows is not an OS I know, but I wonder if there are issues
about which user is running SlimServer and which user is entitled to
run the script.


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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bklaas


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kdf Wrote: 
> On 21-Apr-06, at 7:23 AM, bklaas wrote:
> 
> >
> > I'm seeing nothing about cost except "free" on the MusicIP website.
> Can
> > anyone confirm that? I'm not interested in opening my wallet for
> > this...
> >
> you can easily get a trial key, and wendell (code guru for musicIP) is
> 
> very generous with longer term keys for those developing musicIP 
> features if needed.  However, I think the new plan over there is to 
> allow the http API as a free feature.  I'll can provide you with a 
> simple patch to add the mix links to the browse modes, and all you need
> 
> is a new fitting graphic for b_mix.gif (moodlogic) and b_mmmix.gif 
> (musicIP)
> -kdf

thanks, KDF. I'm still a little confused how MusicMatch is supposed to
fit into the Slimserver UI. MusicMatch makes playlists, right? Where
would a user be looking on the Slimserver web interface for MusicMatch
functionality? Clicking on the "Browse Playlist" link? Maybe it's just
Friday, but I don't think I'm getting it...

I downloaded the linux MusicIP program and took a look. As far as I can
tell it at least *looks* free. If there's a cost associated with it they
hide it quite well.

Before I run this program against my library, I still want to know if
MusicIP edits ID3 tags. Anyone know?

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[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread bklaas


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vikmurthy Wrote: 
> 
> When I am navigating on the Playlist page through a list of multiple
> songs and click the X next to the first song in the Playlist to delete
> it, it appears that the skin begins deleting the playlist from the
> bottom up instead of deleting the particular song that I actually
> wanted removed.  
> - Vik

fixed and checked in.


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[slim] Re: OT: WZC affecting WPA but not WEP??

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

What service pack are you running? SP1's implementation of wireless
config leaves a lot to be desired ... fixed (mostly) in SP2


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Re: [slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread kdf

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thanks, KDF. I'm still a little confused how MusicMatch is supposed to
fit into the Slimserver UI. MusicMatch makes playlists, right? Where
would a user be looking on the Slimserver web interface for MusicMatch
functionality? Clicking on the "Browse Playlist" link? Maybe it's just
Friday, but I don't think I'm getting it...


First off, MusicMatch is a different animal from "MusicMagic" or  
MusicIP as it is now known. MusicMagic can be used to manage your  
library (importing metadata during scan) and as a mixer for playlists.  
 They program has some fancy algorithm for blending songs that "fit"  
together based on various criteria.  They provide an HTTP API for  
requesting playlists based on "seeds".  Seeds ca be artist, album,  
genre, song, an existing playlist or a variant of a playlsit, called  
"moods".  Both the player UI and web UI have hooks for creating the  
mixes.  As for your skin, it can be up to you where and what you wish  
to support.  Slimserver actually works with two mixer programs,  
Moodlogic  and MusicMagic.  Each has their own graphic (b_mix.gif and  
b_mmmix.gif respectively) that we use in the web interface to call the  
http API.  Most skins that support the mixing, so far only make it  
available as part of the browse modes.  Your cmdwrappers file already  
has the stuff in place for browsecontrols, etc.  However,  
browsecontrols_abbr is only the PLAY and ADD.  If you add the mixer  
lines to that, then you will have links to activate musicmagic  
playlists.  Clicking the b_mmmix.gif icon next to "U2" for example  
would create a playlist based on U2 as an artist.  Server settings  
will determine how large the playlist should be and how varied.




I downloaded the linux MusicIP program and took a look. As far as I can
tell it at least *looks* free. If there's a cost associated with it they
hide it quite well.


The API used to be something you had to pay for.  I believe this is  
going away to give more people access to the mixing features from  
third party applications like slimserver.


Before I run this program against my library, I still want to know if
MusicIP edits ID3 tags. Anyone know?


It does not.  They create their own data storage (default.m3lib,  
IIRC).  The initial analysis of the files can take very long time (1  
week for a full analysis) but you rarely ever have to run it all over  
again (don't go wiping out the m3lib file, of course).  I believe that  
some recent versions to allow the option of embedding the analysis  
data into the audio files themselves for faster recovery, but this  
still avoids the ID3 tags themselves.


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[slim] Re: OT: WZC affecting WPA but not WEP??

2006-04-21 Thread Michaelwagner

aubuti Wrote: 
> Does WZC come into play (if you let it) only with WPA and not with WEP?
No, I use WZC with 801.11b cards, which can only run WEP.


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[slim] Re: Tray Icon

2006-04-21 Thread jedd . jarvis

stopping slimserver and restarting does not put the icon in the system
tray.  


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Squeezebox v3 wireless, Firmware v37
Dell Dimension 2400, Celeron 2.4 Ghz, 1GB Memory, hard wired to router
Windows XP Home SP2
Linksys WRT54G v3 Wireless Router, Firmware v4.20.7 (latest), DHCP, WPA
Personal TKIP
Tritton NAS, Maxtor Diamond Max Plus, 120 GB, Music Folder, Playlist
Folder
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[slim] Re: Tray Icon

2006-04-21 Thread oreillymj

I believe that you'll find the SlimServer Tray Tool is usually in the
startup group of your Start->Programs Menu.

You can manually start the Tray icon app from the .exe in c:\program
files\slimserver.


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[slim] Re: Wake-on-LAN" again

2006-04-21 Thread cvj

danco Wrote: 
> So I don't know enough about the 6.5 plugin to make reliable
> suggestions.
> 
> I assume you have the script for "Power Off" selected. I assume that,
> like the 6.1 version, it must have an option for "No Script" and an
> option for each script you have, and that you have selected the option
> for your script.
> 
> It certainly could do no harm to see if the script worked when set for
> one of the other events, for instance on Stop, or even on Play File.
> 
> You said in an earlier post "When I select the startup.bat as the
> option from and press the "Play" button, ther SB3 screen says "running
> script" and points to the "Script" directory - so that seems to be OK."
> It's not clear to me if the script did definitely run and act on your PC
> - the message from the Squeezebox really just means that it has told the
> computer to run the script, not that it did run successfully.
> 
> Again, Windows is not an OS I know, but I wonder if there are issues
> about which user is running SlimServer and which user is entitled to
> run the script.

Yes, I have the script for "Power Off" selected...and I have tried
other events per your suggestion and still no luck getting the PC
to hibernate.

I am beginning to think that this perhaps is related to some "obscure"
security or firewall setting in the Windows OS... but that is
unfortunately beyond what I can figure out :-)

Thanks for all your suggestions and help!


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[slim] Re: How to identify which Squeezebox 3 I have

2006-04-21 Thread ChrisOwens

The wireless ones say "Contains FCC ID: Q72WLANTPBG" which is the FCC
approval of the wireless card we put in.

If you're really interested, you can even look it up at
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm


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[slim] Re: OT: WZC affecting WPA but not WEP??

2006-04-21 Thread aubuti

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> What service pack are you running? SP1's implementation of wireless
> config leaves a lot to be desired ... fixed (mostly) in SP2

Thanks for the reply. The XP laptops are both SP2. So I'll keep
experimenting to figure out why switching to WPA made things so
unstable.


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Re: [slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin

2006-04-21 Thread kdf


for mixer support, here is a patch with simple bad graphics made by 
forcing the Default gifs into 20x20.

-k



nokia-mixer.tar.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data
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[slim] Making Sure FLAC is streamed in full res

2006-04-21 Thread agentsmith

Hi I know this is basic, how do I make sure that my FLAC files are not
transcoded to a lower format?

Is it simply a matter of:
1. Go to Server Setting
2. Go to File Types

---
Tick Check Box 
File Format = FLAC
Stream Format = FLAC
Decoder = built in
---
UnTick Check Box 
File Format = FLAC
Stream Format = MP3
Decoder = FLACflac/lame
---
Is that all?

---
What about ?

File Format = FLAC
Stream Format = WAV
Decoder = flac 

Should that be checked as well?

What's the difference?

What if you check both flac-flac and flac-wav?


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[slim] Re: OT: professional-audio "slim device"?

2006-04-21 Thread Pale Blue Ego

M-Audio Microtrack, $399:

http://tinyurl.com/rtkly

Edirol Portable recorder, $439:

http://tinyurl.com/ou4ua

NRG Stereo microphone, $76.95:

http://tinyurl.com/p9u5t


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[slim] Re: Making Sure FLAC is streamed in full res

2006-04-21 Thread rudholm

All you need to do is set bitrate limiting to "no limit".  It's a player
setting.  I believe it's the default.


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Re: [slim] Making Sure FLAC is streamed in full res

2006-04-21 Thread kdf


On 21-Apr-06, at 9:59 PM, agentsmith wrote:



Hi I know this is basic, how do I make sure that my FLAC files are not
transcoded to a lower format?

If you have a squeezebox2/3 then by default Flac plays untouched.  The 
player decides the format.  If you think you may have accidentally set 
the bitrate limiting, then you can verify in player settings->audio.  
Make sure it is set to "no limit".  This is the default, and will let 
the player use the "built in" decoding.  Flac converts to WAV for 
Squeezebox 1 (mp3 if wireless).  Most times, you shouldn't have to 
worry about any of the file types settings unless you wish to force a 
particular conversion at some point.


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