[slim] Re: Arrrrrrgh, The new SB3 Black
jonheal;160556 Wrote: The original SB3 (the one you got) came in black and white. The black model was outfitted with black plastic and a brushed aluminum (silver) bezel. The white model was outfitted with white plastic and a brushed aluminum (silver) bezel. Unless you got a white model, you got what the box described. Ultimately, the cost of that return is going to be eaten by Slim. Folks don't do the company any good with frivolous returns. Not frivolous, it wasn't what Amazon described it as. I wanted a black one, and paid for a black one, and they sent me silver. It was unopened, Amazon simply get the package back, so no reason not to put it back in the warehouse. -- karma mechanic karma mechanic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideas for Squeezebox 4
Larger display. Agreed. Both Taller and Wider, making it easier for my aging eyes to read it from 20 or 30 feet away. Or when a call comes in to the cell phone, it'll display caller ID on SB4. I believe there is a way to do this now with an appropriate plug-in and software on the server. My personal level of interest in at best ambivalent about the rest of the ideas. I can see how some people would like them, but they also seem to be outside the primary focus of the device. I'm not knocking them as ideas, but they would not be selling points to me. I like the concept of wireless bluetooth headphones, but my experience with bluetooth wireless headsets on my phone is that they are spotty at best. Definitely not hi-fi IMO, and I'm not even a real audiophile. I'd also like to see a return to something more along the lines of the SB2 form factor, but I know lots of people prefer the SB3 form factor, too. Again, just personal preference on my part. I'd still like to see a decent SB/Boombox I can carry around the house and yard. :-) The idea of a SB2 combined with that fancy display audio remote from logitech has some appeal, too. But the problem with that, IMO is that I prefer to have one universal remote. Maybe that could be combined with the Harmony remote series in some way. WOW, I should be paid for these ideas! With a pony! :-) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Radio Luxembourg
Can anybody tell me what URL I should be using to play Radio Luxembourg through my Squeeze Box? The Radio Luxembourg web site is: www.radioluxembourg.co.uk Thanks -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Saving playlists with remote
Ah, Phil you sneaky ol' so-and-so! Went to have a look at the latest PlaylistMan plugin, and guess who the author is? And guess which plugin overides the original 'Save playlist' remote command with another one? Well, yes I am the author of that plugin. I didn't realise you were using it. There's no need for the save playlist plugin if you are using PlaylistMan (there's an option to save the playlist within my plugin). For others reading this thread, Save Playlist uses press hold play on the now playing screen. My plugin doesn't do anything with the play button in this mode; my plugin provides a menu option to save the playlist when the user presses holds the add button. I believe the two used to work side by side without problems, although I disabled Save Playlist quite a long time ago (when I pinched the functionality for my plugin :-)). I recently found that my PlaylistMan plugin doesn't work if I have TrackStat plugin installed, because this overrides play.hold. It's an annoying feature of plugins that only one can register a custom map for any keys in a particular mode. The only way around this (to get many plugins to use different keys in the same mode) would seem to be to manually edit a IR keyboard map file to invoke the correct functions. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Radio Luxembourg
http://s8.mediastreaming.it:7050/listen.pls -- Roy Roy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: this is a real challenge...slimserver problem
If the SB is connected directly to ethernet port on modem/router, either static or dhcp, can be pinged. As I said, the SB works perfectly - but only if connected directly. If the SB is connected via dlan, either static or dhcp, ping doesn't work. But if I connect another item to dlan (xbox, macbook, etc) ping works. I know some people might say what's the prob? just connect directly. But it's not practical as SB on different floor to modem/router, and besides it's been working fine all this time so just want to get it back as was. Are there any SB engineers/techie people around who might be able to analyze SB console/crash log if I send to them? I knew this would have people stumped!!! -- louish louish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 12/1 version skipping the ends of songs
As I've noted in the bug report (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4384), this IS a transcoding problem. If I turn transcoding off, the end of the songs are not truncated (SB3 or SoftSqueeze). I still strongly believe that this bug was introduced after MP3 gapless playback was implemented. Unfortunately, most of my library is in FLAC. And while I can stream that to my wired SB3's with no problem, I HAVE to transcode to MP3 when I access my library from work. -- M3Rocket M3Rocket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30251 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Missing Albums
I found that a couple of Albums have not made it into the SS database. I can find them with the browse files option. But searching does not work. This was the case in SS6.2 and SS6.5 for exactly the same albums. I retagged them and rescanned - no cigar. Rescanned the whole database (numerous times) - still nothing. I got the toad out to look at the mysql tables and indeed nothing there, the albums and tracks are missing. It is all a bit weird. Other albums by the same artist have been scanned alright. There are no unusual characters in the file names. Does anyone know how to fix this? cheers Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30403 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: this is a real challenge...slimserver problem
I'm experiencing the exact same problem - I'd assumed it was my wireless setup (I recently added a new bridged section in another part of the house). My setup: eMac with Tiger 10.4.8 SB2 wireless I'll try the factory reset on the SB2 tonight to see if this rectifies the problem. Given that the original poster is wired and I am wireless, it sounds like the problem does lie with the SB2 firmware upgrade performed after the install of 6.5. Will let you know. -- nano2nd nano2nd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=873 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Missing Albums
I can find them with the browse files option. But searching does not work. This was the case in SS6.2 and SS6.5 for exactly the same albums. What OS? Do the files containt any non-latin characters? Did you check permissions on the files and the folder containing the file? Please turn on debugging (Server Settings/Debugging: d_scan, d_files) and search the log for information about your files. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Jez wrote: It opens the doors to support issues caused by Squeezeboxes being opened (invalidating the warranty) and things sudenly not working anymore. Before people ask, we have looked into just supplying the metal faceplate, but it's easy to damage the front plastics in removing the old faceplate. So we don't believe this would be the right thing to encourage folks to do. That didn't seem to be a problem with the old SB1 graphics upgrade which involved taking the thing apart, clipping wires, installing connectors etc. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
That didn't seem to be a problem with the old SB1 graphics upgrade which involved taking the thing apart, clipping wires, installing connectors It probably was and they've learnt their lesson... -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Peter;160674 Wrote: That didn't seem to be a problem with the old SB1 graphics upgrade which involved taking the thing apart, clipping wires, installing connectors etc. Regards, Peter Nor did it seem to be a problem for those who had defective faceplates on their SB3s (and there were many, judging by the number of posts here). Those people were sent a new faceplate and asked to back out a few screws and attach the new one. The argument doesn't hold water. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
how about having more onboard memory to minimise dropouts when using wireless - buffer the downloaded data into memory and voila . USB port to let you attach an external disk - then you can use slimserver running on a pc to point to the SB disk and you will definately have no wireless drop out. -- killie99 killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Kyle;160683 Wrote: Nor did it seem to be a problem for those who had defective faceplates on their SB3s (and there were many, judging by the number of posts here). Those people were sent a new faceplate and asked to back out a few screws and attach the new one. The argument doesn't hold water. My faceplate was coming loose so I e-mailed support and got a replacement. It was easy to replace, but if I were Slim, I would definitely want to invalidate warranties if faceplates are being replaced for no reason other than the customer desiring black vs. silver. A. You're exposing the guts of the device when you remove the facelplate. Accidents happen. Screwdrivers slip. Cokes spill. B. When you tighten the screws into the new faceplate, you really have to bear down on the wrench, because the threads are not tapped into the screw holes in the faceplate. Several times, the wrench slipped on me slightly damaging the heads on the hex screws -- and potentially gouging the back of the unit. C. Because you have to bear down so hard tightening the screws, you don't get a good feel for when you're about to over-tighten. If you over-tighten, you end up with a deformed faceplate that may start coming off in the future -- the very condition that led to replacement faceplates in the first place. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: this is a real challenge...slimserver problem
I had the same problem back on 11/29. I was using the same Slimserver / Squeezebox setup without problems for over a year (I had upgraded slimserver many times during that period). For some reason on 11/29 all of my squeezeboxes (I have 3) stopped working. I narrowed it down to the fact that my Linksys router (WRT54G v6) wasn't assigning DHCP addresses wired or wireless. I rebooted everything several times. I noticed that on the Linksys site there was new firmware for my router from 11/27 so I figured that I would give it a try. It worked. It seems odd to me that really fixed the problem and I still think that it may have been coincidental but it may be worth a try for you. -- fred7 fred7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6523 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
I got my first SB2 April 2005 direct from Slim Devices. As I live in Ireland and there are no dealers here I had no choice. Anyway, being so in love with this little gadget, earlier this year I picked up another SB2 from ebay for just over a £100. Money was tight and I could not stretch to a new SB3. When the 2nd hand SB2 turned up it was dead. After a little reseach I found the CPU had come loose, I fixed it within a few minutes and it was working fine. Anyway, 4 or 5 months later it just died. I tried everything, contacted Slim and they said it needed to come back for repair. As It was 2nd hand I had to pay for the repair. Long story short = the cost of the repair + the postage back to sunny California from rainy Ireland worked out more than I paid for the thing to start with. It's a shame I cannot send it somewhere in Ireland/UK for fixing. I feel pretty fed up about the situation. I cannot afford to get the thing fixed and £100 for 4 months use isn't a great investment. Such is life I guess. Please SD, get some authorised repair people closer to your customers. -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
killie99;160687 Wrote: USB port to let you attach an external disk - then you can use slimserver running on a pc to point to the SB disk and you will definately have no wireless drop out. Not really. If I understand slimserver correctly (which isn't guaranteed) even if the data are coming from the external USB disk, it has to go to slimserver to create the stream that feeds the SB. If it's a wireless SB, then you have a two-wireless-hop situation, which *increases* the likelihood of dropout. Plus you'll have noisy hard disk in your listening room -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Orb wrote: I got my first SB2 April 2005 direct from Slim Devices. As I live in Ireland and there are no dealers here I had no choice. Anyway, being so in love with this little gadget, earlier this year I picked up another SB2 from ebay for just over a £100. Money was tight and I could not stretch to a new SB3. Wow, that's a pretty incendiary subject line for a story about getting burned buying broken second hand hardware from a dodgy ebay seller. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can I connect to kpbs.org?
I'd like to connect my Squeezebox to our local PBS radio station. Is there a URL I can plug in to? They stream, but it's WM format. Here's their Listen Now page: http://www.kpbs.org/radio/listen -- mike rocket j squirrel -- rocket j squirrel -- rocket j squirrel rocket j squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4595 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can I connect to kpbs.org?
Sure, try http://www.kpbs.org/kpbs64k.asx -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Marc Sherman;160703 Wrote: Orb wrote: I got my first SB2 April 2005 direct from Slim Devices. As I live in Ireland and there are no dealers here I had no choice. Anyway, being so in love with this little gadget, earlier this year I picked up another SB2 from ebay for just over a £100. Money was tight and I could not stretch to a new SB3. Wow, that's a pretty incendiary subject line for a story about getting burned buying broken second hand hardware from a dodgy ebay seller. - Marc It arrived broken because of a design fault in SB2's that meant the cpu can come loose in transport. The unit was only 4 months old when I purchased it from a non dodgy guy on ebay. The fact remains, the unit died after I had been using it for a good 4 months and I cannot get it fixed unless I send it thousands of miles away and huge cost. I bet you would be as happy about it as I am. -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
But in my case, I bought a CD from a street vendor in Bulgaria. Anyway, a year later, it stopped working, and Tori Amos refused to replace it. Man, Tori Amos sucks! -- gsalton gsalton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can I connect to kpbs.org?
Well . . . that was easy. Thanks! -- rocket j squirrel -- rocket j squirrel rocket j squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4595 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Some OGGs playback with lots of static
Hi. I'm having an occasional problem with my slimserver. Some Q10 OGGs playback with a lot of static. It seems random, but one song that consistently plays back badly is Cartman's rendition of Come Sail Away. I ALWAYS get a lot of static on this song. I don't think it's a problem with the file, as it plays back just fine thru amarok. Any ideas? This is the only problem I'm having with it. Server: SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Debian - EN - iso-8859-1 Server IP address: 192.168.100.2 Perl Version: 5.8.7 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.22-Debian_0ubuntu6.06.2 Ubuntu Dapper, fully updated Player: Player Firmware Version: 64 Hooked up wirelessly thanks, john -- jabster jabster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Some OGGs playback with lots of static
Can you file a bug and attach the problem file? I think we are very close to the CPU limit when decoding q10, although we did test some q10 files which worked fine, so as you said it may only happen with certain files. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
xPL and xPA plugins will allow caller-id from a landline to display on SB3 -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Some OGGs playback with lots of static
On 12/8/06, jabster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having an occasional problem with my slimserver. Some Q10 OGGs playback with a lot of static. It seems random, but one song that consistently plays back badly is Cartman's rendition of Come Sail Away. I ALWAYS get a lot of static on this song. I don't think it's a problem with the file, as it plays back just fine thru amarok. Do you know which version of the ogg encoder you used? If you used any the pre-1.0 versions then that is a known problem (unlikely to be fixed, I suppose). I would try reencoding the CD (or track) with ogg of course. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Internet Radio resolution?
Mark Lanctot;160508 Wrote: When I see a big and obvious mistake like that, it makes the rest of the article suspect. Sure, I agree -- I was just trying to point out that bitrate != sound quality since it didn't seem like the readers of this thread necessarily understood that. -- jamietre jamietre's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8794 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: HTTP message appearing in browser
I'm also using Firefox and Zone Alarm, getting the same http messages in the right pane. Doesn't happen with IE. Happens with both FF 1.5 and 2.0. Also goes away if I close zclient. -- bastinado bastinado's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2503 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
gsalton;160708 Wrote: But in my case, I bought a CD from a street vendor in Bulgaria. Anyway, a year later, it stopped working, and Tori Amos refused to replace it. Man, Tori Amos sucks! This is a stupid analogy. My point is that I am happy to pay the repair costs. But the postage is the killer. UPS quoted me over a hundred Euro to send the thing. So my moan is that SD should have some authorised repair facility in Europe. -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
I just sent a package of similar dimensions to an SB2 from NYC to Norway, and yes, UPS and Fedex both quoted well over $100. USPS however did it for $30. I recommend you check out your local post office, they're often a lot cheaper for international deliveries. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] And another bloody thing..................
Slim server used to be around 10-12 MB. The latest version is now around 25 MB? Why? Have you tried to download 25MB on a crappy dial-up connection? What's more after three or fours days of trying to download the bloody thing, once installed SB keeps going blank when you try to browse a folder. HUM BUG -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] If you buy a dodgy electrical item from eBay you're stuffed
Orb wrote: It arrived broken because of a design fault in SB2's that meant the cpu can come loose in transport. The unit was only 4 months old when I purchased it from a non dodgy guy on ebay. The fact remains, the unit died after I had been using it for a good 4 months and I cannot get it fixed unless I send it thousands of miles away and huge cost. I bet you would be as happy about it as I am. You may be unhappy, but let's look at the facts: - you bought a 2nd-hand electrical item - manufactured in California - which has no distribution in your country - from eBay - it is therefore of unknown providence - it was dead when you received it - you opened the unit (therefore invalidating any warranty) - you managed to fix it - it died again 4 months later How much do you think it would cost to repair even if you could take it somewhere in Ireland? Probably a minimum charge of €100 plus parts. It's a shame you've been stung, but you really do only have yourself to blame. It's certainly no fault of Slim Devices. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
jonheal;160692 Wrote: ... but if I were Slim, I would definitely want to invalidate warranties if faceplates are being replaced for no reason other than the customer desiring black vs. silver. That would be easy enough to accomplish, particularly if a machine is already out of warranty. I guess I wouldn't expect most companies to be accomodating in this manner, but I think of Slim as being somewhat different. It really doesn't matter to me. I doubt I would change even if it were possible. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
How many small companies do you know that sell a $300 electronics product and can afford to put repair facilities all over the world? In reality, any electronics under about $1,000 is pretty much disposable these days -- it costs almost as much to repair as it does to buy new. I'm sure you're not happy about your situation, but blaming Slim for (1) a second-hand machine damaged in shipment or by misuse; and (2) international shipping rates just does not make sense to me. It might be cheaper for you to move to California than for Slim to move to Ireland ;-). -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Darn, Orb, tough crowd this morn, eh? Sorry your SB is broken. -- shadowboxer shadowboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
On 8-Dec-06, at 8:22 AM, Kyle wrote: Well, that settles it. You really do need to move to California. or stick to decaff -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
kdf;160751 Wrote: On 8-Dec-06, at 8:22 AM, Kyle wrote: Well, that settles it. You really do need to move to California. or stick to decaff -kdf I dunno, being a caffeine addict myself, I would say he needs more, not less. Just never ever let your caffeine drop once you go the addict route. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Darn, Orb, tough crowd this morn, eh? It's time to go to the pub over here... -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Kyle;160745 Wrote: How many small companies do you know that sell a $300 electronics product and can afford to put repair facilities all over the world? In reality, any electronics under about $1,000 is pretty much disposable these days -- it costs almost as much to repair as it does to buy new. I'm sure you're not happy about your situation, but blaming Slim for (1) a second-hand machine damaged in shipment or by misuse; and (2) international shipping rates just does not make sense to me. It might be cheaper for you to move to California than for Slim to move to Ireland ;-). California sounds good. It's not stopped raining here for weeks. I could do with some sun. But back to my point. I understand what your saying but SD is no longer a little company, they have logitech behind them. If you market to the world then you should offer support. I don't expect SD to set up dedicated repair centres. Use existing companies and licence. Hence authorised. -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
You know I've a bottle of Tullimore Dew Whiskey sitting in the kitchen. Dial-up leads to whiskey abuse. -- Orb Orb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SS6.5.1 MIP 1.7 Mixing?
I had Mix Style set to 200 and Mix Variety set to 0 and Genre set to Yes. Changing the Mix Variety to 1 or greater worked. I have since found using the filters within MMM SS to be even more effective in narrowing down to only the artist I wish to have playlists made from. If you haven't played around with this I highly recommend it. Another thing, is there a way to set up a continuos playlist similar to the Randow Playlist selection from within SS but using MMM? -- pc4ever1 pc4ever1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3836 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter input button?
Is it conceivable that one of the front buttons on the Transporter could be mapped to step through the digital inputs? I suppose one of the steps would need to be 'Now Playing' in order to get back to the connected SlimServer. When using the Transporter as a DAC, it would be convenient to be able to drop a CD in my player and simply select the digital input like you'd do with a typical preamp or multi-input DAC, instead of having to go through the menu hierarchy. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30420 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Saving playlists with remote
My only problem with the add.hold button is that sometimes I get impatient (in a hurry) and let go prematurely (let the ribbing begin!) Then I have to go rescue the track that I've accidently removed from the playlist. Would it possible to reverse these? ie. press + for PlaylistMan, and +.hold for remove track from playlist? In my experience (albeit very limited) that would work more smoothly. Probably a silly idea.. Thanks! -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30323 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Playback Volume... changable?
I tried out iVolume and it doesn't work. Seems others (according to reviews on versiontracker.com) have had the same experience with the new update (2.0.2). Hope the author fixes the problems. Could be a great program. -- mcslim mcslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter input button?
Quoting JJZolx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it conceivable that one of the front buttons on the Transporter could be mapped to step through the digital inputs? certainly, thought at this time would require something beyond a simple .map file change to handle the toggle, an input_toggle function in the DigitalInput plugin. you can, however, with much less effort map any button to a specific digital input. in the custom.map, or whatever you want to call it, map your button to: modefunction_PLUGIN.DigitalInput::Plugin-toslink the 4 inputs are named: aes-ebu bnc-spdif rcs-spdif toslink -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
How about adding a physical memory slot (SD would be nice, or USB port) for playing music directly off a thumb drive? This way, you could play music directly off the thumb drive without having to turn on the computer. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
If you are referring to the same unseating problem that I recall, it should be a simple matter of pushing the card back in place. The only trick required is a torx screwdriver to get into it. As it's second hand already, there is no warantee to protect. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can I connect to kpbs.org?
rocket j squirrel;160712 Wrote: Well . . . that was easy. Thanks! In general, I think you can determine the URL of Windows Media streams by connecting with Windows Media Player. Once the stream starts, select Properties from the File menu. You'll see the URL of the stream there. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30412 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter input button?
kdf;160777 Wrote: certainly, thought at this time would require something beyond a simple .map file change to handle the toggle, an input_toggle function in the DigitalInput plugin. you can, however, with much less effort map any button to a specific digital input. in the custom.map, or whatever you want to call it, map your button to: modefunction_PLUGIN.DigitalInput::Plugin-toslink the 4 inputs are named: aes-ebu bnc-spdif rcs-spdif toslink Thanks. That would work. I'd probably just need to map one button to bnc-spdif. I could then map another button to 'Now Playing' to get back, correct? Here's one I probably already know the answer to: Can buttons on the Transporter's faceplate be remapped without affecting the function of the corresponding button on the remote? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30420 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
From yesterday's paper Irish people are happier than most other Europeans but feel tired and worn out more regularly, according to a new Eurobarometer survey on mental well-being. The study - published by the European Commission today - shows that 82 per cent of Irish people claimed to be happy all or most of the time. Less than half of the respondents country state that they have been tired only rarely or never Eurobarometer survey This was 17 per cent higher than the EU average and ranked Ireland second only to the Dutch in terms of personal happiness. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
bpa;160791 Wrote: From yesterday's paper Irish people are happier than most other Europeans but feel tired and worn out more regularly, according to a new Eurobarometer survey on mental well-being. Well, see, more coffee. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude;160775 Wrote: How about adding a physical memory slot (SD would be nice, or USB port) for playing music directly off a thumb drive? This way, you could play music directly off the thumb drive without having to turn on the computer. Were you planning to put the server software on the thumb drive, or in the SB (thus making it a fat device)? The SB only knows how to accept streams, and the average SD/USB memory doesn't know how to send them. I think it's great to brainstorm ideas, but let's not lose sight of the basic functions that still need to be done. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
I love surveys - I think the EU surveyors went to pub and found lots of happy people passing the time while slimserver downloaded on their dialup link. A report funded by the European Commission and produced by the UK Institute of Alcohol Studies, has said a higher proportion of income in Ireland is spent on alcohol than in any other European Union country. The report, published today, also says that Irish people are the biggest binge drinkers in the EU. The survey shows that Ireland is spending three times more than any other country and ten times more than Greece. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Transporter input button?
Quoting JJZolx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I could then map another button to 'Now Playing' to get back, correct? yup, or just start playing something else. the digital inputs are simply playable urls like anything else. Here's one I probably already know the answer to: Can buttons on the Transporter's faceplate be remapped without affecting the function of the corresponding button on the remote? mostly. look at front_panel.ir for the front panel functions. some match the slim_devices_remote.ir button names, but not all. It should also work if you rename the ir button you want to use, and then use that button name to function mapping in your custom.map -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Transporter input button?
JJZolx;160789 Wrote: Thanks. That would work. I'd probably just need to map one button to bnc-spdif. I could then map another button to 'Now Playing' to get back, correct? There's already one mapped to Now Playing :) Can buttons on the Transporter's faceplate be remapped without affecting the function of the corresponding button on the remote? I don't see why not, they're seperate control paths and treated as seperate mappings. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30420 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
The thread is about what could be done, not how it would be done. I'm sure it would be relatively easy to figure out how to stream files from an external drive. How does SqueezeNetwork work? Not via SlimServer. Anyway, this would be a great feature, and worth quite a bit to me. I get tired of having my computer on all the time, but that's the only way to access my files right now. I don't think I'm alone. It comes up often in the forums that people would like to attach networked drives, too. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] And another bloody thing..................
Orb wrote: Have you tried to download 25MB on a crappy dial-up connection? Then get a better connection. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
How does SqueezeNetwork work? Not via SlimServer. Oh yes, it is. Consider it a SlimServer cluster. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: And another bloody thing..................
Not so simple. Unfortunately the broadband situation in Ireland is a disaster where the network is effectively owned by a monopoly and has been badly maintained as a result of many privitisations/floatations, re-financing and resulting cash extraction. The regulator is so weak it hasn't enforced local loop unbundling to get competitors in and the wireless and satellite alternatives are only available in limited areas. This means very many people just cannot get broadband and have to make do with poor quality dialup. According the recent OECD report there are only 372,000 broadband subscribers in Ireland (pop about 4.5m) - 25th out of 30 countries surveyed Top six - Denmark, the Netherlands, Iceland, Korea, Switzerland and Finland. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Orb;160753 Wrote: I understand what your saying but SD is no longer a little company, they have logitech behind them. It's a little to early to expect any changes from the Logitech deal, but maybe it could lead to more repair centers. That would definitely be a plus. Good luck. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Jez;160480 Wrote: To be honest, this was only ever viewed as a way of renewing interest in our products before the holiday shopping season. So, Slim's game plan is for loyal customer's to buy a brand new unit if they want black. I guess the Logitech buyout is starting to show through. Gotta love corporate decision makers. -- bishopdonmiguel bishopdonmiguel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=278 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude wrote: The thread is about what could be done, not how it would be done. I'm sure it would be relatively easy to figure out how to stream files from an external drive. How does SqueezeNetwork work? Not via SlimServer. Yes, via slimserver. The slimserver in question happens to be running at SD headquarters. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude;160801 Wrote: The thread is about what could be done, not how it would be done. Okay, now we're talking. Then I want a *real* wireless model, with no cord for the power and no cables to my amp. ;o) EDIT: and a pony!! ezkcdude;160801 Wrote: I get tired of having my computer on all the time, but that's the only way to access my files right now. I don't think I'm alone. It comes up often in the forums that people would like to attach networked drives, too. Right, so that's what people (myself included) do: attach network drives. NASs have the processor and memory to create the stream that feeds SB. Dumb USB external drives and thumb drives are a completely different story. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Quoting bishopdonmiguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jez;160480 Wrote: To be honest, this was only ever viewed as a way of renewing interest in our products before the holiday shopping season. So, Slim's game plan is for loyal customer's to buy a brand new unit if they want black. I guess the Logitech buyout is starting to show through. Gotta love corporate decision makers. If all you can think of for getting what you want is whining and badmouthing...that is really sad. Even if they do eventually give in, it's a truly ugly win. please flame away. at least it would change the subject from this garbage. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Orb;160729 Wrote: This is a stupid analogy. My point is that I am happy to pay the repair costs. But the postage is the killer. UPS quoted me over a hundred Euro to send the thing. So my moan is that SD should have some authorised repair facility in Europe. No, that was a _silly_ analogy. You took a risk buying secondhand to save a few bucks, with all the information known or knowable in advance, and it didn't work out. Bummer. Then you blamed the company and the engineering. Which is sillier? I have sympathy, I live even further from California, and with less chance of postage working at all, at any cost. That's precisely when the warranty of new might be worth it. -- gsalton gsalton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Orb, can't this guy help you out? http://www.at-tunes.co.uk/ Patrick Dixon, he's on this board too and a dealer of Slim Devices I think. Plus he mods them... Good luck! jan ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ideas for Squeezebox 4
Yeah, like cake. When will it make cake, dammit? On 12/8/06, aubuti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ezkcdude;160775 Wrote: How about adding a physical memory slot (SD would be nice, or USB port) for playing music directly off a thumb drive? This way, you could play music directly off the thumb drive without having to turn on the computer. Were you planning to put the server software on the thumb drive, or in the SB (thus making it a fat device)? The SB only knows how to accept streams, and the average SD/USB memory doesn't know how to send them. I think it's great to brainstorm ideas, but let's not lose sight of the basic functions that still need to be done. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Great customer service still exists.
Thought I'd post some good news. I live in Calgary, AB, Canada. I called SD Thursday PM to see if it was possible to get a replacement part for my remote that I'd dropped and broken. Friday PM a whole new remote has arrived. Great service. Many thanks. -- Limping_Pylon Limping_Pylon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
I apologize for suggesting something that is hard. There must be no way to do this. I didn't realize there aren't enough smart folks at Slim to figure out how to implement this. My bad. Oh, wait, I never said that. It's you guys who are implying they can't do it. Let's just stick to candy-colored faceplates and fancy display upgrades. Jokers. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
kdf wrote: If all you can think of for getting what you want is whining and badmouthing...that is really sad. Even if they do eventually give in, it's a truly ugly win. please flame away. at least it would change the subject from this garbage. Hey, I'm normally the last one to take the anti-SD side in this kind of thread, but you have to admit that we don't want customers opening the case and invalidating the warranty is a distinct change in message from a couple months ago. Sean and Dean used to practically dare us to do that on a regular basis on these forums. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.1 won't start
I too cannot upgrade from 6.5.0 to 6.5.1 while using IE 7. I get some funky error message about checking the event viewer but when I do there is no entry in the log. -- paltomare paltomare's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2062 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
I am definitely with the folks saying that we don't want to lose site of the core functionality of the SB. That said, here are my suggestions. 1. The SB3 has great sound now, but everything and anything that can be done to improve sound even more without increasing the cost should be near the top in terms of priority. 2. I do view the display as a part of the core functionality (it's one of the keys to making the SB such a blast to use). A larger display might be nice, but what I'd love to see even more would be an auxiliary color LCD panel below the main fluorescent display that could be used to display the album cover. Now that would be neat. 3. A accessory Sonos-like remote. This concept could be expanded to include a headphone jack and/or line outs. Dave -- Gildahl Gildahl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
I get that people might think it is an odd change in message. The main point is that the answer was 'no' and people are trying to change that response is very much the worst way possible. show interest, not make threats and disparaging remarks. Someone recently wondered why there are less and less posts from SD employees. Higher workload would be my first guess. But, I think the motivation for reading is decreasing. Thing is, if there REALLY is enough interest and it REALLY is just a simple thing to provide a faceplate, then I sense a business opportunity for anyone who believes in the conjectures. The fact is still that every one all got what they paid for when they paid for it. There is never a promise that things won't change. Yes, there was the SBG upgrade, but when SBG became SB2, SD wasn't out there offering new PCB's for people to insert. The point is that invalidating warantee is a business risk. Allowing users to fix a missing cap in order to repair antenna noise is one thing. Replacing a faultily assembled faceplace is not the same as providing faceplates simply for cosmetic reasons. The former prevents expensive returns and repairs, while the latter is simply adding risk to something that is currently 100% of what was promised. As we all know, expressed interest is not something that is ignored. That is something that should be protected. If the badmouthing starts causing barriers (and it does) then everyone loses out. If even one developer, for example, decides that reading the forum too much unpleasantness for the effort, then that is a critical link lost when you want to convince someone of the benefit of a desired feature. I've seen it stated that the expectation is that they should all be around and reading, but they are human beings and the points made here, or just one of many venues. Do you listen to the sounds that make your head ache? Most companies don't allow their employees to take part in forums. I am increasingly aware of reasons for that. Once lost, it is a hard thing to get back. Sure, sometimes people are frustrated. I get that. Choose the battles wisely. how about... how much is a faceplate option worth? -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
Better power supply Improved DAC for the same price HDMI output (audio only)for new receivers 2-3 color display some way to make this portable so we could stream to our cars more color choices for the box itself on off switch on the box Perhaps a version a/b/c with different price points for with different options and audio quality. Joel -- jschnur jschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
At the moment we have a limited supply of the new parts, and an even more limited number of sales people... with the Christmas rush it is all we can do to fill demand for normal Squeezebox orders. If we find there is a lot of demand for an accessory or replacement part then we can add a new SKU, but it is very hard to support during the initial launch of a new product. We have not _always_ offered upgrade parts for this sort of thing, so I find it rather silly that one would blame Logitech for the lack of black faceplate upgrades. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
Quoting Gildahl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. The SB3 has great sound now, but everything and anything that can be done to improve sound even more without increasing the cost should be near the top in terms of priority. I expect you will definitely see this in some form for another. When Transporter was announced, it was said that many lessons were learned. These lessons would then be applied back through the product line where there is a good fit. 2. Now that would be neat. expensive for a single-use hardware feature, but certainly not the first time I've seen it requested. 3. A accessory Sonos-like remote. This concept could be expanded to include a headphone jack and/or line outs. Logitech has a product that might just fit the bill: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=12498 It takes a while for merging companies to get up and running in conjunction, but tossing a few of these in the right hands could be an easy motivator (expertly subtle hint, don't you think?) -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Filing bugs
Before you file a new bug, please do the following: 1. *Consider whether your issue is really a support problem.* If you are the only person who has noticed a terrible problem with a release that has been available a while, chances are it's something specific to you. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for official product support. Search messages here in the forums or post a new message to see if other people have seen the same symptoms. 2. *Try the latest stable nightly build of SlimServer and see if the bug is still there.* 3. *Search existing bugs that are open OR resolved to see if your issue has already been noticed.* If you find your bug, update it with additional information you think may be important. 4. If you do file a bug, please include information from the Event Viewer (in Windows) or log files related to the issue and *step-by-step instructions to reproduce the problem* so we can find and fix it quickly. The address of the bug database is http://bugs.slimdevices.com. Thanks for helping us improve our products! -- ChrisOwens Christopher Owens QA Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] (650) 210-9400 x717 ChrisOwens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30426 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
seanadams wrote: We have not _always_ offered upgrade parts for this sort of thing, so I find it rather silly that one would blame Logitech for the lack of black faceplate upgrades. Just for the record, I didn't mean to blame logitech for the decision not to sell replacement face-plates. Just for a possible shift in attitude towards this SB3 does not contain user serviceable parts. That change I completely understand, too. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
seanadams;160842 Wrote: At the moment we have a limited supply of the new parts, and an even more limited number of sales people... with the Christmas rush it is all we can do to fill demand for normal Squeezebox orders. If we find there is a lot of demand for an accessory or replacement part then we can add a new SKU, but it is very hard to support during the initial launch of a new product. We have not _always_ offered upgrade parts for this sort of thing, so I find it rather silly that one would blame Logitech for the lack of black faceplate upgrades. Sounds like youve got good problems. Why don't we all be patient and wait till after Xmas and the People article dies down. Everyone can give Sean hell 6 months from now if you still can't get black plates:-) BTW, I think most people have been begging in a good natured way. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
thanks for the input, sean, from one who has been with you since the early slimp3 days. (love my SBIIIs. Got a new one with Black faceplate on the way to replace a perfectly good SBI. ) Merry Christmas and I hope business is brisk for you this holiday season. I enjoy seeing good companies with good, solid well backed products succeed. And, btw, I am in the back of that line to get a couple of black faceplates for my other two SBIIIs, just cause they look so darn good -dale -- shadowboxer shadowboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
On 12/8/06, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting bishopdonmiguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jez;160480 Wrote: To be honest, this was only ever viewed as a way of renewing interest in our products before the holiday shopping season. So, Slim's game plan is for loyal customer's to buy a brand new unit if they want black. I guess the Logitech buyout is starting to show through. Gotta love corporate decision makers. If all you can think of for getting what you want is whining and badmouthing...that is really sad. Even if they do eventually give in, it's a truly ugly win. please flame away. at least it would change the subject from this garbage. I agree with you kdf, you're not alone. I honestly can't believe how petty people are being about this. It's precisely because SlimDevices tries to accommodate in so many ways that they are getting slammed because they won't in this one case. That's what they get for being the 'good guys'. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
Just so Slim is aware that not all of its customers are outraged that the panels are not offered as an upgrade, I'd like to note that I completely agree with kdf and Ben. On 12/8/06, Ben Sandee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/8/06, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting bishopdonmiguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jez;160480 Wrote: To be honest, this was only ever viewed as a way of renewing interest in our products before the holiday shopping season. So, Slim's game plan is for loyal customer's to buy a brand new unit if they want black. I guess the Logitech buyout is starting to show through. Gotta love corporate decision makers. If all you can think of for getting what you want is whining and badmouthing...that is really sad. Even if they do eventually give in, it's a truly ugly win. please flame away. at least it would change the subject from this garbage. I agree with you kdf, you're not alone. I honestly can't believe how petty people are being about this. It's precisely because SlimDevices tries to accommodate in so many ways that they are getting slammed because they won't in this one case. That's what they get for being the 'good guys'. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
We have not _always_ offered upgrade parts for this sort of thing, so I find it rather silly that one would blame Logitech for the lack of black faceplate upgrades. Agreed. This is a ridiculous thing to be moaning about. Thanks for your continued participation here. On a tangentially related note, I haven't found Logitech to have bad support. I just broke the ear piece on a old and now discontinued Logitech Bluetooth headset. I caught it on my coat and it broke. Clearly my fault and not really a warranty issue. I emailed Logitech and asked if I could buy parts. I couldn't but they sent me a brand new, top-of-the line Bluetooth headset as a replacement at no cost, even though I told them I'd broken my original and it wasn't a warranty issue. That's above and beyond in my book. Whining like a child because something new is released and you wish you had it instead of what you knew you were getting when you bought is absurd. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 and Arcam Solo
I'd like to hear comments on this as well. I love the SB and I like the Solo very much except that some people have criticised its lack of Digital Input. From what I understand (not much then) is that the benefit of a Dig In is that the Solo's super DAC can do all the processing instead of your cheapo MiniDisc Player or whatever plugged in the back. The MD player becomes just a spinner/transport and the superior Solo DAC takes care of the sound, rather than the simpler/cheaper one on the MD player. Except the Solo lacks one of these inputs. So does that mean the SB or other device converts Pandora / FLACs / whatever to analogue for the Solo to receive OK ?? And then this bypasses the expensive Solo DAC you have shelled out for ? I only want to buy the Solo if it is at least a little 'future-proof', i.e. will make the very best of lossless, digitised media. -- Digital_Chick Digital_Chick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7994 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30357 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimLite + NAS on board
I'm back, I follow your hints and install SlimServer 6.5 on a 4 years old Laptop (PIII,1GHz, 512MB, XPproSP2) it went nice ok it tooks me slightly more than 10min, but after one hour I was able to play music (MP3 192kB files) from the server Laptop on a 2nd Laptop using SoftSqueeze. I was proud of that, it works also while 2nd Laptop was connected by WiFi. This motivate me for more, so I install and configure EAC + AccurateRip + FLAC.exe following the installation guide in the Wiki. I also manage this to work even it tooks me about 5 hours effort until I got my first ever .FLAC file. I was also able to stream those new files using SoftSqueeze, but obviously could not differentiate them from MP3 due to the bad Laptop embeded speakers sound quality. I had the oportunity to borrow a SqueezBox3 for this w-e and bring it to work user interface is straight forward. This evening I was listening FLAC on my HiFi system since about 3 hours, audio quality was really good (SB3 - optical out HT (preamp) -Power amp). Now I could feel the power and superiority of FLAC against MP3 (same file back to back). I was very excited of all the tests and comparisons I plan to do this w-e until the music suddenly stop. The raison is the die of the server Laptop HDD, luckly I have a copy of all the music I've ripped, but this is the end of my SB3 test Now you maybe better understand why having a stand alone mode would have allow me to listen SB3 streamed music (direct out from my backup HDD) while I reinstall a new HDD + all the apps in my Laptop instead of that, my CD player will do the job. This first experience convince me on two things: - FLAC quality is really good and can/will replace all my CD - Slim products need a stand alone mode to become a real CD player alternative -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've just called customer service - no way to get black faceplate separartely
When I've started this thread the last of my intention was to bash SD. I've found both their product (sb3 in my case) and customer service outstanding at least, really on of the very best I ever encountered I do understand the reasons while they reluctant to offer it and I only wanted to try and persuade them there is enough people interested, it might be a business point for them to do so (I also suggested in this case, every purchaser will sign some sort of waiver). If they decide not to do it, it's perfectly fine with me since after all it's a minor cosmetic point. It never was promised and to criticize them for not doing it is baseless and unfair. -- sl789 sl789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: If your SB breaks, you're stuffed!
Maybe there's an opportunity there, Orb. Become the Slim distributor and service center for Ireland :) -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: IR Emitter Question
I was using IRBlaster to turn on my Yamaha YSP-800 when I turned on Squeezebox. The YSP is on my wall as my speaker+amp for my bedroom. I wanted to use this setup as an alarm clock, yet when the alarm would come on, my YSP would not. I figured out what I was doing wrong - I was setting IRBlaster too literally. That is, I was configuring it too apply two steps, SB3 power + YSP power. But turning on SB3 power is built in. So you just configure the SB3 remote power button to turn on your amp, and when you hit the power button, it turns on your amp AND your SB3. So now it works. Thanks to Frank for enabling sharing this functioning! -- makingmark makingmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29929 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
ezkcdude;160801 Wrote: The thread is about what could be done, not how it would be done. I'm sure it would be relatively easy to figure out how to stream files from an external drive. How does SqueezeNetwork work? Not via SlimServer. Anyway, this would be a great feature, and worth quite a bit to me. I get tired of having my computer on all the time, but that's the only way to access my files right now. I don't think I'm alone. It comes up often in the forums that people would like to attach networked drives, too. You are not alone ! I'm also fighting for such an improvment see this thread --http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ...but this seems a sensitive topic, first answer sounds always it's impossible For me today in 21th century, I belive on it's impossible that's impossible so I poursue my quest to get a slim navigation mode that permit to use SlimDevices product in stand alone. -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] What does this mean?
I downgraded from 6.5 to 6.3 because 6.5 wasn't beginning to play at power up. Today, the SB has been stopping by itself, and for the second time in the last few days, the display has looked like the picture below. I don't know if I have a software problem or a player problem. Has anyone else seen this? +---+ |Filename: P1010463.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2108| +---+ -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30428 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ideas for Squeezebox 4
your momo;160875 Wrote: You are not alone ! I'm also fighting for such an improvment see this thread --http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30080 ...but this seems a sensitive topic, first answer sounds always it's impossible For me today in 21th century, I belive on it's impossible that's impossible so I poursue my quest to get a slim navigation mode that permit to use SlimDevices product in stand alone. Thanks! It's obvious that this would be a great feature. Why some people are seemingly against it is a mystery to me. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3-EZDAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Orb Streaming
Hi, I have slimserver running on a Linux pc, working fine with v6.5. Yesterday I downloaded orb streaming software from www.orb.com. Now looking at my slimserver's web page I see under browse Orb (pc - username). I see the same on the SB under the browse menu. Now I'm confused, how is the slimserver seeing the Orb software? I did a search but didn't have any luck. Regards-Michael G. -- mgerbasio mgerbasio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Orb Streaming
Quoting mgerbasio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have slimserver running on a Linux pc, working fine with v6.5. Yesterday I downloaded orb streaming software from www.orb.com. Now looking at my slimserver's web page I see under browse Orb (pc - username). I see the same on the SB under the browse menu. Now I'm confused, how is the slimserver seeing the Orb software? I did a search but didn't have any luck. It would seem that Orb is a upnp server which slimserver can detect. In order to support Rhapsody, slimserver has a basic upnp client interface. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Orb Streaming
slightly related: its been a while since I tried MusicIP (the last time I tried the Linux version had a bunch of utf8 issues...), and while scanning today, I noticed that Slimserver spotted it and was fondling it in what may or may not be appropriate ways Because it has a upnp server now and Slimserver spotted it. When I finish analyzing some of my music I'll have to play with what the effects are, though it could be interesting. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Mapping Random Mix to remote Shuffle Key
Hi, I've just been trying to implement this but with no success. I was wondering if this this still valid in 6.5.1. modefunction_PLUGIN.Random-tracks thanks -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Arrrrrrgh, The new SB3 Black
unless you are browsing with images disabled, you got exactly what was advertised at amazon -- EFP EFP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Mapping Random Mix to remote Shuffle Key
Quoting Greg Erskine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've just been trying to implement this but with no success. I was wondering if this this still valid in 6.5.1. modefunction_PLUGIN.Random-tracks That was the old third party plugin. The new included one is in its own folder, so the reference change like so: modefunction_PLUGIN.RandomPlay::Plugin-tracks -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] got my black on black
Here's what it looks like on top of a Tivoli Model Two (http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/comp/none-more-black.png/view). I was concerned that it would look funny because I liked how my Squeezebox 2 neatly fit on top of the speaker radio box, but this isn't bad. The beer is North Coast Red Seal Ale (http://www.northcoastbrewing.com/red.htm), and much like the Squeezebox, you'll have to get your own :) -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
