Re: [slim] Logitech being absolutely OTT ?!
It does seem odd There are several mail forwarding agents in the US that can forward your merchandise I can personally recommend http://www.maillinkplus.com/ -- y360 y360's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running SS on an iMac - Problems
All wired right now until we determine the problem. Thanks for the reply and sorry about the double posting. I didnt realize that a post to the mailing list would also get posted to the forums. The client has a number of network issues as well, as I discovered tonight so will be trying to resolve these first. One strange behavior is that we can plug a Linux and Windows laptop into a particular 5 port Linksys switch and they connect fine and work fine internally and externally. Plug the iMac in and the light on the switch goes on, goes off, goes on, goes off etc so I am thinking a possible ip conflict since the Imac is staticly assigned. Will keep plugging away at it. Thanks again for the help and suggestions. -- BigBirdy SB3 (2), Yamaha DSP-A1, Denon 5900 DVD, Musical Fidelity Trivista DAC-21, Rega Planet, Adcom GFA-555, Panamax 1500, Klipsch KLF-30 Mains, Klipsch KLF-C7 Center, Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds, Sound Dynamics-THS15, AudioQuest, Kimbercable. SB2, Musical Fidelity X-DAC (v3), Musical Fidelity X10 (v3) Musical Fidelity X-PSU (v3), Musical Fidelity X-Can (v3), Yamaha CX-830, Panasonic DVD-RV30, Adcom ACE-515, Philips PA1200B, Sound Dynamics RTS-3, Sound Dynamics Sub, Monster Cable, Sennheiser HD-600. BigBirdy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37315 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Album thumbnails not displaying
Posted in a recent thread about album art: Gibbo;217588 Wrote: > > Strange though, done a clear and rescan in SS 6.5.3 and when viewing > albums by gallery view it doesn't have any artwork at all? just a big > question mark for each one, they are all there when you click on the > albums though. > And itunes still can't find over half the artwork even though it is all > now a jpg in the album folder, anyway people know to sort out itunes > 7.3.1 so it sorts itself? I am having the same issue. I've placed cover.jpg in the appropriate folders but it isn't displayed in the album views. However, if you click on the album, the album art is displayed. This would appear to be an instance of Bug 5138: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5138. (although I'm running 6.5.1 instead of 6.5.2 in the bug, and I don't think it has anything to do with playlists in my case.) In my case it seems that only cover art that I've added recently is not showing up. Are there constraints on the size of album art? In my case the trouble files are generaly smaller than the typical Amazon file (say 150x150 rather than 300x300 or 500x500). I wouldn't think smaller would break it, but ... Is anyone else having this problem? -Steve -- wnshall wnshall's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5886 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37319 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Empty artist folder
Thanks everyone! I ended up cleaning out the database completely and did a scan-from-scratch (as suggested). That did the trick. -- Vallier Vallier's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12464 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37228 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] china antique
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Re: [slim] RadioIO
I guess they managed to find something else to break now! At least other stations seem to be working. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36529 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RadioIO
I can't get Radioio Ambient to work, can anybody else? -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36529 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Trouble with NPR podcast opml
Paul Webster;218741 Wrote: > However, although it works ... the podcast names do not appear in the > Squeezebox. > Hmmm ... just tried it again and it was fine. So - I'll add a new entry in WikiRadio called something like "NPR Podcasts (official)" since it comes direct from them ... and if it seems to work for everyone that uses that facility ... then we can remove the old one and rename etc etc. -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://www.lastfm.com/user/BondJamesBond Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37152 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Trouble with NPR podcast opml
Thanks, NPR, for updating your header. I was going to put a pointer to this in WikiRadio - essentially to replace the existing (old) hand-crafted one that someone else made for it. However, although it works ... the podcast names do not appear in the Squeezebox. I think that this is because the field names in the NPR XML file are not quite what SlimServer is looking for. Any chance of a SlimServer update to support these as alternate names? Here is how it starts .. Code: NPR Podcast Directory Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:00:00 -0400 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:53:11 -0400 NPR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast.php?id=510100"; htmlUrl="http://wordforword.publicradio.org"; /> Full version at http://www.npr.org/podcasts.opml (it looks great in the SlimServer web gui via MyPicks - but not so good at he Squeezebox) -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://www.lastfm.com/user/BondJamesBond Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37152 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech being absolutely OTT ?!
No, the winner is the Wireless DJ Music System. 179 pounds. or on the US site, $99. Methinks something broke on their exchange rate conversion, that is just plain silly. UK: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/216&cl=gb,en US: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/216&cl=us,en -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
MAC as in Media Access Control, not the PC made by Apple. One of the "layers" of Wireless security is to tell the router or access point, "only talk to these machines," identified by MAC address. It isn't much of a security measure since it is trivial to change the MAC address of a machine... That said, it is probably under Security Settings on your router, something like, "Only allow these clients to connect" or something. You can leave it on if your network is pretty constant (just remember to add new clients to that list when a friend brings over his laptop), or turn it off if it gets to be annoying: the security it gives is pretty minimal. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running SS on an iMac - Problems
I don't think you said if it was wired or wireless. Can't harm to check it wired, and also to check it wireless with the SB really close to the computer. Also let us know what router he has. I would check whether he can connect to SqueezeNetwork. If he can't, it's an issue with the SB and router, perhaps just the wrong password; if he can it's something to do with the IMac and SlimServer. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37315 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
>From my experience the RangeMax routers work very well indeed and do offer considerably improved wireless range, BUT only when used in conjunction with a corresponding RangeMax wireless adapter. -- david68 david68's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech being absolutely OTT ?!
Corporates will want an internal rate of return of at least 20% on investment, anything less and their Group Treasury would prefer to keep cash on the money markets. Logitech paid out $20M for Slim Devices IIRC; they know that gouging of UK consumers is easy. $2000 in the USA and £1700 in the UK for a TP when the US:GBP rate is 2:1! -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Could you please explain more and possibly how to fix this. I am absolutely ignorant about Mac's. I understand what MAC authentication is, but where would this be set/used? snarlydwarf wrote: Robster;218716 Wrote: Sorted mine too, under wireless settings there was another box, I had to add each wireless device in there manually with thier MAC's. strange, as i never added my 1st SB3 but it was there. R Sounds like you turned on MAC authentication at some point? It probably autofilled in "things I see right now" when you turned it on. -- *Johnny Stork* Business & Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard fn:Johnny Stork n:Stork;Johnny org:Open Enterprise Solutions adr:;;#301-1466 Pemberton Ave;Squamish;BC;V8B0K1;Canada email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Business and Technology Consultant tel;work:604-892-5003 tel;home:604-892-5003 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.openenterprise.ca version:2.1 end:vcard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Robster;218716 Wrote: > Sorted mine too, under wireless settings there was another box, I had > to add each wireless device in there manually with thier MAC's. > strange, as i never added my 1st SB3 but it was there. > > R Sounds like you turned on MAC authentication at some point? It probably autofilled in "things I see right now" when you turned it on. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Running SS on an iMac - Problems
Sorry for my ignorance here, but I have never used an iMac although I am very *nix friendly. I have a friend who bought a SB3 and is running a new 20" iMac and has already installed slimserver. I dont even know the process for this but I can get to www://hismachine:9000 just fine and see the SS interface so I assume its installed and running fine. However, he cannot ping the SB let alone get the SB to find and connect to the SS running on the iMac? I have disabled the firewall inNetwork settings or somethinghe knew where it was I didnt. So is there anything else I can check? Other machines connected into the same router can ping the SB just fine? Is there anything I need to check, confirm etc on the iMac to get it to see the Sb and vice-versa? -- *Johnny Stork* Business & Technology Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ SB3 (2), Yamaha DSP-A1, Denon 5900 DVD, Musical Fidelity Trivista DAC-21, Rega Planet, Adcom GFA-555, Panamax 1500, Klipsch KLF-30 Mains, Klipsch KLF-C7 Center, Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds, Sound Dynamics-THS15, AudioQuest, Kimbercable. SB2, Musical Fidelity X-DAC (v3), Musical Fidelity X10 (v3) Musical Fidelity X-PSU (v3), Musical Fidelity X-Can (v3), Yamaha CX-830, Panasonic DVD-RV30, Adcom ACE-515, Philips PA1200B, Sound Dynamics RTS-3, Sound Dynamics Sub, Monster Cable, Sennheiser HD-600. begin:vcard fn:Johnny Stork n:Stork;Johnny org:Open Enterprise Solutions adr:;;#301-1466 Pemberton Ave;Squamish;BC;V8B0K1;Canada email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Business and Technology Consultant tel;work:604-892-5003 tel;home:604-892-5003 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.openenterprise.ca version:2.1 end:vcard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Sorted mine too, under wireless settings there was another box, I had to add each wireless device in there manually with thier MAC's. strange, as i never added my 1st SB3 but it was there. R -- Robster So much music, so little time.. - http://www.myspace.com/hifinut Robster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Running SS on an iMac---Questions?
Sorry for my ignorance here, but I have never used an iMac although I am very *nix friendly. I have a friend who bought a SB3 and is running a new 20" iMac and has already installed slimserver. I dont even know the process for this but I can get to www://hismachine:9000 just fine and see the SS interface so I assume its installed and running fine. However, he cannot ping the SB let alone get the SB to find and connect to the SS running on the iMac? I have disabled the firewall inNetwork settings or somethinghe knew where it was I didnt. So is there anything else I can check? Other machines connected into the same router can ping the SB just fine? Is there anything I need to check, confirm etc on the iMac to get it to see the Sb and vice-versa? -- BigBirdy SB3 (2), Yamaha DSP-A1, Denon 5900 DVD, Musical Fidelity Trivista DAC-21, Rega Planet, Adcom GFA-555, Panamax 1500, Klipsch KLF-30 Mains, Klipsch KLF-C7 Center, Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds, Sound Dynamics-THS15, AudioQuest, Kimbercable. SB2, Musical Fidelity X-DAC (v3), Musical Fidelity X10 (v3) Musical Fidelity X-PSU (v3), Musical Fidelity X-Can (v3), Yamaha CX-830, Panasonic DVD-RV30, Adcom ACE-515, Philips PA1200B, Sound Dynamics RTS-3, Sound Dynamics Sub, Monster Cable, Sennheiser HD-600. BigBirdy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 SB3s dead within 2 weeks of each other...
On 8/2/07, brunoflipper < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the reason i had to pay $90? > they claimed it had been dropped... not possible... never happened... > the screen had just gone black... an absolute load of shit... nice tech > support... Maybe it was damaged further in transit back to Logitech. If you insured it, maybe there's some evidence on the packaging of a drop. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
Thanks all for your very helpful responses. I will try a few things and report back! -- dehavillandrfc SB3 -> Beresford DAC -> Netgear Wireless Router -> QNAP TS-101 LP12 / Genki -> Kollektor / LK140 -> ALR Jordan Entry M dehavillandrfc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 2 SB3s dead within 2 weeks of each other...
the reason i had to pay $90? they claimed it had been dropped... not possible... never happened... the screen had just gone black... an absolute load of shit... nice tech support... -- brunoflipper brunoflipper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
bpa your a genius! thank you for asking the right question! just realised when I'd set it up first time i'd just told the f-secure firewall to allow all traffic from the SB ip address, the ip address has now changed given the new router, and had forgotten to tell F-secure that. all sorted now. cheers folks for the help. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Basic Question - Is slimserver actually running - can you get the SS web page ? Do you have any other security s/w installed besides Windows firewall ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech being absolutely OTT ?!
Hello, I wonder if the guys over at Logitech are being absolutely mad? Why? Because of pricing changes to the transporter over here in Europe / Germany... Prices are being constant $2000 for the US ONLY they don't ship to Europe anymore. Why? NO explanation just a link to Logitech.com. Where exactly the same unit is priced arround 2500 Euro! I don't have to tell you about currency exchange rates at the moment. I was planning to get a transporter as soon as I could afford it... That is to say a month ago I would have been able to purchase it over in the US and get it shipped to to my door and pay via credit card. That would have been arround 1500 Euro for exchange rates at the moment. Now Logitech one of the big players aquired slimdevices. Good choice would I think although their products are not quite mass market I guess. But Logitech has all the developements Sean Adams and his fellows have put so much work in. Being able to manufacture these units on a bigger basis perhaps maybe the prices would drop and with a big name on them the would eventually reach mass market in Europe... But the oposite is true. The funny thing about this is that with all the developement done the units shouldn't be to expensive to make. I think Slimdevices had their calculations and had areasonable chance to actually refund their developement. Why does logitech make such a difference amongst their customers now. Is it all about !SQUEEZING! the last bit of profit out of a company that was only aquired to disapear in Logithech's drawer's? Why should I just because I happen to live in Europe pay about 150% of the price every body in the US pays??? Anyway, it is your decision. The squeezebox REALLY makes music accessable for blind persons because CDs arn't easyly recognisable if you can't see the covers and the perspective of the possibility to browse a music collection by a web browser actually made me buy a decent hifi thinking to hook up a transporter. But I think you have actually lost a customer. :( I know it's just "take it or leave it" and I shouldn't kikc my can all over the place. But just notice that there might be other potential european customers who arn't too happy. And well, "We will rock you!" But you don't care anyway? To often are good ideas bought ONLY to be thrown into the bin. But perhaps there is an explanation? Perhaps it's just European power suplys that are out of stock? :o -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 2 SB3s dead within 2 weeks of each other...
I purchased one sb3 on 12/3/06 and again on 11/03/06 2 weeks ago the display on one of my units went completely dead... So i get to pack 10 bucks to ship for repairs and $90 for a new screen... I've left messages for two days and cannot get the balance on my account paid so that they'll return my unit... yee-freaking-haw... But before I even get the unit back from slim, my other unit dies completely this past Sunday... no power, nada... just dead... Rinse, repeat... This sucks... -- brunoflipper brunoflipper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37310 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Its a linksys WRT54GS http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/63763 -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
In "advanced routing" the operating mode is set to gateway, what does this mean out of interest? if I change it to router, then I lose access to the internet. to be honest, don't know if this has anything to do with anything. -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Welcome Felix, Michael and Ben!
On 2-Aug-07, at 11:39 AM, Ben Sandee wrote: On 8/2/07, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul_B;218426 Wrote: > Great news for the future of Slimserver. Also good to see recognition to > the three guys concerned for making the product what it is. It is great news, for all involved. But, to be fair, it has taken and continues take more than just three. KDF, it's obvious they can't afford you or they would already have snapped you up. ;-) The costs to the employer for health care and workers compensation can be nasty. It's important to remember those who have been employed before and those who have contributed along the way. more employees is a good thing, but we'll always need as many contributors as possible, and they all deserve credit and thanks. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
The choices are gateway and router? That is an odd selection. A Gateway is a "where packets that are not local to this network should be sent". Also called a "default route"... A router is "a device that knows how to get to 2 or more networks and makes decisions on where to send packets based on its knowlede of those networks." In most cases, the gateway -is- a router... what good is passing packets onto a supposedly more net-knowledgeable machine if it doesn't know what to do with them... What model router is this? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Welcome Felix, Michael and Ben!
On 8/2/07, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Paul_B;218426 Wrote: > > Great news for the future of Slimserver. Also good to see recognition to > > the three guys concerned for making the product what it is. > > It is great news, for all involved. But, to be fair, it has taken and > continues take more than just three. KDF, it's obvious they can't afford you or they would already have snapped you up. ;-) Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Hi Same kind of problem as you. Had an SB3 working fine with a Linksys router and Virgin cable, now have moved house and have Sky BB with a Netgear DG834GT Router. My old SB3 connects and plays fine wirelessly. My new Logitech branded SB3 which arrived today will not connect, settings are same and i'm using 128bit wep. Wired it works okay but not wireless. Got same problem with my laptop, will not connect to the new router. Doesn't make sense, any ideas? Anything different inside the Logitech ? thanks R -- Robster So much music, so little time.. - http://www.myspace.com/hifinut Robster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Port forwarding should be unneeded, and may in fact confuse things. It is designed so that "A-Host-On-The-Internet" can connect to "A-Specific-Host-On-Your-LAN"... It should do nothing for LAN-LAN connections. Other than setting your WPA passkey and your SSID, most consumer routers should take no configuration. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Well I've now turned off port forwarding and still, access to SN but not SS? Any ideas? -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Welcome Felix, Michael and Ben!
Paul_B;218426 Wrote: > Great news for the future of Slimserver. Also good to see recognition to > the three guys concerned for making the product what it is. It is great news, for all involved. But, to be fair, it has taken and continues take more than just three. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New router blocking squeezebox
Hello, Had my squeezebox working for a while, now got a new router as have switched form DSL to cable. My squeezebox can access SN through the router, but just times out when I try to access SS? the windows firewall is obviously the same as before, allows through stuff to 9000 and 3483, in the router I hava mac address filtering, but that is obviously fine as it can access SN, I have WPA but again must be fine as SN is accessable, so can only be the router firewall? to be honest I can't find how to turn the firewall off, its a linksys router, in port range forwarding I have forwarded 9000 and 3483 to the computers ip, is this right to do? can't think of what else i'm missin? any help would be great! -- Gibbo Gibbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
I second the use of homeplugs. I had connectivity issues, dropouts, etc. However, since I've gotten homeplugs I've had no issues. You need one for the router and one for each Squeezebox. I only get 20-40mbs on an 85mbs homeplug but streaming quality is fine. I got 3 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833173011R -- UNCMo96 UNCMo96's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11386 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
For router with the dipole antenna (straight) - the signal strength is doughnut shaped with a hole in the middle ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_(radio)#Radiation_pattern If your SB is immediately above the router then you are probably in one of the worse spots for reception. Try angling both router antennae horizontal instead of vertical to see if it makes a difference. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best way to get artwork?
I like Album Art Fixer from AV Soft -- RobHall Rob Hall Hi-Wi Wireless Music Installations www.hi-wi.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] RobHall's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10853 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37105 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
Try using homeplugs (or powerline adapters). Plug one into a power socket, connect to your router via ethernet cable. You can then go anywhere in your house and put in another homeplug into any power socket, stick an ethernet lead in it and you have a network going through your electricity cabling. I find the 85Mb/s are fine, but 200Mb/s also available. -- RobHall Rob Hall Hi-Wi Wireless Music Installations www.hi-wi.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] RobHall's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10853 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Through Windows XP ICS
Ideally I want the plug 'n play approach. In fact, I guess that's what my original question is (I'm probably making the explanation way too complicated. Sorry about that). Put simply, with Slim Server on an XP machine which is also running ICS, will Squeezebox have any issues 'finding' Slim Server? The LAN where Squeezebox and Slim Server/ICS are connected is all wired. The only wireless part is the link from the ICS/Slim Server computer to the neighbor's Wi-Fi. That wireless link is how the internet is delivered to the LAN where Squeezebox, Slim Server/ICS are located. Hope this is making sense. -- ShutterShock ShutterShock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Through Windows XP ICS
ShutterShock;218615 Wrote: > With that in mind, when I plug Squeezebox into and ICS PC (which will > also be running Slim Server), will the ICS box grant Squeezebox an IP > address, thereby giving it access to Slim Server? I'm thinking yes, in > light of the fact that when ICS is activated a DHCP server is created as > well. Put another way, when Squeezebox is initially connected, it > should 'look like' its connecting to a router. Again, any thoughts > appreciated. You might have to enable a separate DHCP server. But static IP addresses are so much easier, is there any reason you need DHCP here? -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
mflint;218611 Wrote: > > I bet there are digital picture frames with ethernet, which can be > controlled externally. I'm sure some enterprising folks could hack > together a SlimServer plugin solution to control one of those... After looking closer to the subject, the only advantage of the picture frame is its clear bright screen, but it's pricey for the functionalities offered and can only be used as this "album art display". The PSP/N700/N700/Tablet/Archos approach with wifi adds the versatility of using it as an evolved remote or as album art displayer and it's much more hackable for a reasonable price: Archos 605 wifi is 200 with 4Go static ram, it can browse the network shares, act as a upnp client, watch movie, listen to music, BROWSE THE WEB :). I'm about to buy it, I just wait as I wonder what SB/LUA project will give birth... I realize that I'm polluting every topics with this idea but it has became some sort of obsession ;). -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Can't connect to retrieve playlist
Same problem here I think. I can play internetradio from SlimPicks for example, but I cannot play other stations via the "Tune In URL" menu. I always get the error: "Error: Can't connect to retrieve playlist" For exmaple, the URL http://64.235.213.21:80/CFOXFM is fine with Linux/MPlayer, while Squeezebox refuses to play it. SlimServer Version: 6.5.3 - 12361 - Linux - EN - iso-8859-1 Perl Version: 5.8.7 ppc-linux MySQL Version: 5.0.18 Is there any solution for this? -- jan80 jan80's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
Mr Sinatra seems to want Slim to reinvent the wheel. There are already iPods, Media servers with internal storage, mp3 car stereos, laptops, mac mini, SFF PCs, etc. What he's proposing would be a LOT clunkier than the current architecture, and pretty useless without some kind of NAS or noisy local storage. Flash memory is limited and there are already plenty of flash memory music players. The SB3 is a NETWORKED player, in an increasingly networked world. Let the world come to Slim. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
Michael Herger;218573 Wrote: > > I wonder if a device like the linutop > > http://www.linutop.com/ > > has enough power to run SS already today. > > I guess it would rather be at the lower end. Those embedded Geode cpus > are even less powerful than the Via C7 class processors. > > Michael The Zonbu www.zonbu.com seems to be more powerful. And it is only 250$ without plan. Oh, found some info about the specs. It's a 1,2GHZ VIA CPU. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9073106297.html Bye, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
Are both devices wireless? Wiring at least one of them to the router is the first thing you should do when experiencing wireless bandwidth issues. It's usually easiest to wire the server, particularly with the Qnap because it doesn't have to be anywhere - you don't need constant physical access to it. It's best to locate it near your router and wire it. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Trouble with NPR podcast opml
Thanks for pointing this out. NPR's OPML file now has the XML header, and should now work with this program. If you have any other problems with listening to NPR podcasts, please let us know at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for listening! -- jsgrosman jsgrosman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12614 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37152 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to change the server my squeezebox connects to
reading and typing are hard... -- jarome jarome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37265 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems Connecting to SlimServer
The router page would be here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus but it's probably not much use to you. It was started when there were compatibility problems 18 months ago and hasn't really been updated since because most of those problems were solved. Thoughts on your issue: - seeing that you have a draft-n router, do you have any draft-n features enabled? Make sure it's running 802.11g only, no throughput enhancement/turbo, etc. - perhaps your router doesn't like static IP assignments in its DHCP pool. Try restricting the DHCP pool range to 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.100 and give the Squeezebox an address of 192.168.0.110. - try wired first. If that works, IP address assignment is correct and it's a wireless issue. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37290 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer security?
erland;218544 Wrote: > Are you asking this because you like to have SqueezeBox and SlimServer > in totally different places and let them communicate over an insecure > network ? > For example SqueezeBox at work and SlimServer at home. Yes. > If this is the case, the recommended way is to setup a SSH tunnel > between the different places. Thanks! -- Billop Billop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12610 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UK prices up on Amazon
And now the price is up to £245.25 That is a whopping 25% increase in 36 hours.. what is going on? -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Through Windows XP ICS
Thanks for everyone who chimed in with suggestions. Unfortunately, I don't have the flexibility to change the configuration as I originally described it. It's not actually my installation. I'm doing it for a relative on a very tight budget and they insist on not changing what the already have. Selling them on the idea of Squeezebox was a major effort. So, the configuration I originally described is what I'm stuck with despite the excellent suggestions in this thread. With that in mind, when I plug Squeezebox into and ICS PC (which will also be running Slim Server), will the ICS box grant Squeezebox an IP address, thereby giving it access to Slim Server? I'm thinking yes, in light of the fact that when ICS is activated a DHCP server is created as well. Put another way, when Squeezebox is initially connected, it should 'look like' its connecting to a router. Again, any thoughts appreciated. -- ShutterShock ShutterShock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3602 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
"erland" Wrote: > users with large houses that needs to be able to play different music in > different parts of the house, but also sometimes wants to play the same > music in the whole house Yes! And it's not that large a house either, but I have two squeezeboxes and wouldn't rule out buying at least one more. "erland" Wrote: > I suspect most people running SlimServer on a NAS is doing it because > they don't have any other machine running 24/7. Yes again! "vrobin" Wrote: > [browse cover art is] something I dream of Then maybe the community itself needs to find a way. I bet there are digital picture frames with ethernet, which can be controlled externally. I'm sure some enterprising folks could hack together a SlimServer plugin solution to control one of those... -- mflint 'Clicky-woo linky' (http://www.insignificant.org/wiki/index.php/Slim_Plugins) to web page of my plugins mflint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RadioIO
Thanks, Andy! -- corbey corbey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36529 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UK prices up on Amazon
Well you can still get it at Datakits for under £190 (and IIRC they still have non-Logitech branded ones!). But more insidious is that you can't buy from SlimDevices anymore if you live in Europe - you have to use Logitech, and so have to get it at £219 plus shipping, instead of the sterling equivalent price of under £175, even including VAT. And say nothing of the Transporter price - you could get a weekend break in New York, buy a Transporter, pay the UK VAT on your return and still save money! Globalisation? Not here!! Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
> If you have a web host, why not run SlimServer on that to and just keep > the music on the NAS ? I don't have root access to that machine, only web based management. I couldn't run SlimServer on it, but have MySQL available. But most hosters will block external access to MySQL anyway. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Let's here some suggestions for SlimServer 7
Hopefully the next version will allow the use of aliases to multiple folders in OS X :-) -- Cintra Cintra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26874 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Welcome Felix, Michael and Ben!
I'm also very pleased to see these three now on the payroll. I use utilities from all three of them on a regular basis and couldn't imagine using my Squeezboxes without them. Excellent decision! This just goes to show that for some, money can be made on open source software! -- 4mula1 SlimServer 6.5.3 + Solaris 10 x86: Because Linux would've been too easy! 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Through Windows XP ICS
jwcurtin;218579 Wrote: > I'd probably put in a wireless access point, configured as a bridge, to > bring the wireless signal into your premises. D'Oh!!! Of course you could also use the Squeezebox to do this, and plug it into a network switch and cable to your PCs. John -- jwcurtin jwcurtin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
erland;218578 Wrote: > The only reason for a color screen as I see it to be able to browse > cover art. What I really would like here is some integration with media > center solutions as I partly mentioned in my previous post. > That's something I dream of, but rather than a tv with media center (i don't have a tv:) ), what I dream of if some sort of wired or wireless Picture frame that would have two roles: - standing on a table, on the receiver, it would display the cover art of the "now playing" track or the cover art of the album as I browse the SB with the SB remote - when i want to browse cover art, I undock this "wireless picture frame", bring it with me on the couch and use it as a N800 touch screen remote. First I was looking at USB picture frame, but now, i'm looking more and more at the Archos 605 Wifi announced in a previous post. I don't know how this device could fit my dreams and I don't know what slimdevices lua work will give, so I'm still waiting. -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
Michael Herger;218586 Wrote: > As one of the major problems with SlimServer on NAS devices is memory > consumption, I wonder why there aren't more users trying to offload > MySQL to some other machine. I once made my SlimServer use a MySQL > instance running on my web host. Or get yourself a NSLU as a DB server > - you could call this a n-tier SlimServer :-)I suspect most people running > SlimServer on a NAS is doing it because they don't have any other machine running 24/7. If you have a web host, why not run SlimServer on that to and just keep the music on the NAS ? Am I missing some obvious reason why it would be preferable to run SlimServer on the NAS if you already got a 24/7 machine which surely has more memory and faster processor than the NAS ? Michael Herger;218586 Wrote: > I doubt any of them would lower the complexity of today's solution. > Added flexibility often results in increased complexity. In fact I > blame SlimServer's myriad of settings to the flexibility users asked > for.I totally agree. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
If it is convenient for the location, you might want to play with just a aluminium foil around the squeezebox. One of my sb3's had a hard time reliably streaming flac and simply placing sheet of aluminium foil behind it to reflect signals towards the access point increased the signal strength 20% and tests ok even at max speed. -- tot tot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
As one of the major problems with SlimServer on NAS devices is memory consumption, I wonder why there aren't more users trying to offload MySQL to some other machine. I once made my SlimServer use a MySQL instance running on my web host. Or get yourself a NSLU as a DB server - you could call this a n-tier SlimServer :-) As for your suggestions: They all seem feasible. But the original topic was "low complexity" - I doubt any of them would lower the complexity of today's solution. Added flexibility often results in increased complexity. In fact I blame SlimServer's myriad of settings to the flexibility users asked for. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Welcome Felix, Michael and Ben!
Wow, what great news. Well done guys you all deserve it. Heres to the future :) -- mattybain '[image: http://imagegen.last.fm/recenttracks3/recenttracks/MattyBain.gif]' (http://www.last.fm/user/MattyBain/?chartstyle=recenttracks3) mattybain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37283 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Through Windows XP ICS
ShutterShock;218508 Wrote: > Would prefer to use a router but in this case the internet access is > through shared Wi-Fi with a neighbor. Well, unless you trust your neighbor more than you trust yourself I'd want security nailed down tight. ShutterShock;218508 Wrote: > > Specifically, we have a D-Link wireless adapter in a computer's PCI > slot. It's been stand-alone up to this point but now we're putting in > a LAN and want to share internet access throughout the LAN. Coinciding > with this is the addition of a Squeezebox and Slim Server. If there's a > way of doing this with a router, I'm certainly interested. The only shared access that I've had to do which involved different networks involved family members, which was a little less fraught. I'd probably put in a wireless access point, configured as a bridge, to bring the wireless signal into your premises. Plug that into the WAN port of a WiFi/Switch/Router/Firewall box, and run your own WiFi network on a different channel, channels 1, 6 & 11 don't overlap each other, so will give you better performance. Of course, if you can run a cable to each of your own PCs and the Squeezebox you don't need to run your own WiFi, just bridge to the internet connection. Hope that helps, John -- jwcurtin jwcurtin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37293 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
JimC;218565 Wrote: > Since the SB3 is designed as an "across the room" experience, why would > a color screen be preferred? Unless it was a pretty big screen, it > would be harder to use and if were big, it would be pretty expensive. > Just curious to understand what you perceive as the advantages.The only > reason for a color screen as I see it to be able to browse cover art. What I really would like here is some integration with media center solutions as I partly mentioned in my previous post. Something like this: If I just want to play a specific artist or album I use the standard SB non color display and remote. I have no need for a color display here. If I want to select something to play together with my friends I start up the media center interface on the TV and we can browse cover art, see more information about artists and when we find something we like we can hit play in the media center interface and it would start playing on the SB. A color display on the remote solves some of this, but it is to small if you are several persons in the room and like to select something together. By media center I don't necessary mean the Microsoft solution, personally I would prefer MythTV since this is what I'm running but I realize that the majority is probably using Microsoft. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Strength - Help!
Have a look here >>-> http://www.freeantennas.com/ I built the EZ-12 out of aluminum cooking foil and a cornflake packet and it worked well. -- Wirrunna Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
MrSinatra;218560 Wrote: > just fyi, i'm not trying to be argumentative, i think we just need to > agree to disagree. > We obviously agree on some things and disagree on others, I'm not sure this discussion is going to make it any clearer. I think the differences is just mostly related to if one prefer a fat device or a slim device. Anyway, I think we probably have a lot of potential users: 1. Users that don't have a 24/7 server and don't have a NAS/external harddrive. - They may want the single box solution with everything in one box. 2. Users that have a NAS or USB drive but don't have a 24/7 server. - They may wan't the single box solution with everything in one box, but they probably down want a harddrive to be included. 3. Users that have a 24/7 server - They already have the server hardware so the don't want to pay extra for server hardware they don't need. 4. Users that like to take their music collection with them to a friend. - Here I think a single box solution might be optimal, but for these users it may also make some sense to include amplifier and speakers in the box. However, as already mentioned previously, a slim device connected to SqueezeNetwork using your library uploaded at mp3tunes will probably also work for these users. 5. Users that like to take their music collection with them in the car. - Here we want a solution that has the format of a standard car stereo so it can be easily plugged in to place. We need a server part and hard drive that can run on the car battery. I think the optimal solution would be something that was in the car the whole time but could synchronize its harddrive with the system inside the house over the night. 6. Users that like to take their music collection with them when they are walking or running. - Something like an iPod is clearly the best solution here, so better integration between the iPod and SB/SlimServer would improve this situation. I'm not sure if Logitech like to focus on portable devices, if they don't some sort of integration might still be appropriate. 7. Users with large houses that needs to be able to play different music in different parts of the house, but also sometimes wants to play the same music in the whole house. - Here a slim device with a single separate server is almost the only way to go. The users could buy a single box with both SB+SlimServer and a number of extra boxes which only contains a SB. But I have a feeling some of these users already may have a 24/7 running server, so they might not be interested in the SB+SlimServer combo box at all. IMHO all these uses can't be satisfied with a single solution. I'm also not sure if Logitech tries to satisfy them all. Anyway, if they like to satisfy as many as possible I think some kind of modularised hardware and software solution is needed. Making a single device that tries to solve all cases will just result in a too large and too expensive device. There are some advantages with fat devices and some other with slim devices. So I think each customer just have to choose which one he prefer. If he likes a slim device, Logitech is a good way to go, if he like a fat devices there might be other vendors providing better solutions. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and RandomPlayList plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
MrSinatra;218560 Wrote: > > could it be attached to an ext usb drive? could it access a huge > playlist, and do random for it well? Not without hacking. It is a USB client: the USB port is so that you can plug it into a PC to copy files to it. (Painfully slow.) You can reflash it to enable USB host mode, but you will need to make your own USB cable and you must have a powered USB hub between the Nokia and any device. There is a usb-storage module, but I don't know if anyone has ever made it work (most of the interest is to use a portable keyboard... a rollup usb keyboard would make this a great laptop for ssh'ing into servers sort of annoying that you have to play cable games and carry a powered hub, too, though). A huge playlist? Depends on your concept of huge. This is NOT a fast CPU. It is pretty easy to bog it down. > > if so, it very well may be exactly what i'm looking for. definitely > has my interest. If you want SB-type sound quality, no, it won't give you that either. It does make a nice remote and I no longer have to carry a laptop with me at all times, the Nokia suffices for most emergencies at work. With headphones it's not bad for watching movies (but you will have to drop the frame rate and resolution). But it's not a Squeezebox in sound quality, nor is it able to replace slimserver in handling large libraries. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
> I wonder if a device like the linutop > http://www.linutop.com/ > has enough power to run SS already today. I guess it would rather be at the lower end. Those embedded Geode cpus are even less powerful than the Via C7 class processors. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
erland;218554 Wrote: > It would be great if someone could explain the major advantages of > having: > > - A fat device in a single box with a separate harddisk or NAS > > Compared to: > > - A slim device and a separate pre-configured silent, small server box > which run SlimServer with an internal harddisk and optionally external > USB hard disks or a NAS. i addressed this in my last posts, but the main thing is that you decrease the cost of the fat client, and keep it solid state. you would want it to be able to read any media, be it flash or card or HD or on the network, or whatever... but i think its unecessary to have MUSIC storage internal to the device, unless its like a small flash amount. it also keeps the SB smaller and lighter, and less power needy. JJZolx;218561 Wrote: > I personally don't know anybody who turns off his home PC. Laptops, > yes, desktops, no. And a growing number of them have home file servers > that also run 24/7. well i know people who do, and i encourage people to use standby and hibernate modes on their desktop PCs, its saves a lot of money, and is the green thing to do. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.4 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
erland;218552 Wrote: > Ok, so you want more for equal amount of money ? > > I'm afraid I can't see how this equation could be solved. Someone > obviously has to pay for the development costs, faster CPU, more > memory... > I'm pretty sure Logitech won't give it away, after all they are into > this to earn money. They could of course choose to save money on other > parts to keep the price, for example poor quality audio circuit, a > smaller display... well, over time things get better and cheaper at the same pricepoint. SB1 to SB2 to SB3. the fact is you can put more into a product today, than when SB3 debuted, for the same amount of money. now, perhaps i'm being optimistic as to how much, but like i said much earlier, perhaps the increased parts cost could be offset by less support issues and easier ongoing development. erland;218552 Wrote: > I can't see why the music storage needs to be separated, that just means > that I need another box. Why not include a 200GB drive in the box, which > should be enough for most people, and allow extra drives using USB > drives or NAS boxes. > > If we are going to make it fat, why not make it really fat ? you absolutely could offer such a model... but i want a smaller, solid state device, thats impervious to vibration. besides, why add the extra cost of traditional HD storage? let the user provide that, as per what they want the way they want it. erland;218552 Wrote: > Because people usually doesn't like to pay for things they don't use. > There are a lot of people that have several SB devices in their home. A > thin SB can obviously be made cheaper than a fat device with equal sound > quality. So those that like to have 3 SB devices in different rooms, > would have to pay for the server part of the fat device 3 times, but > they would only need one instance of that part. > > Another reason is that, if they are in the same box it will be harder > to let a third party vendor do the SlimServer hardware while Logitech > focus on the SB hardware. It will be possible of course, the PC > architecture with its PCI cards is a good example of this, but it will > probably be easier if it were separate boxes. Separate boxes would also > allow other companies to make their own SlimServer hardware box, > creating a bit of competition which might lower the price. But more > SB's needs to be sold before this can be the case. lets say this was the SB4. whether they do something like this or not, its going to be around $300 if the past is any guide. so if they COULD do it for that amount, why not? and even if they did offer a fat and slim version, my guess is the slim one wouldn't be much cheaper, if at all. i confess you lost me on the second part... is that something SD / logitech wants to have happen? erland;218552 Wrote: > Nothing has to be redone if the fat device consisted of: > - Part 1: A SqueezeBox with current processor, memory and other chips > - Part 2: A SlimServer hardware card with its own processor, memory and > other chips. > > So if we basically are talking about taking a SB and a NAS and put them > in the same box but let them have totally separated components, no new > development is needed. If we on the other hand want to let the SB use > the NAS processor or vice versa, new development is needed. Because the > SB processor currently doesn't have enough power to run Linux and I'm > betting that the SB firmware doesn't run on any other processor than > the ones that exist in SB and Transporter. > > However, the reason stuff has to be redone if we make a fat device is > that the current architecture is optimised for the situation where > there is a network between the SB and SlimServer. If this isn't the > case it just gets more complicated than needed. It would work, but it > would take a lot of time to maintain the extra code that isn't actually > needed. yes, i was essentially saying combine the two, but keep them separate within the one box, so as you say, no new dev is needed. it may strike some as inelegant, but i don't think so, as it maintains the clear architectural distinctions. i'm not sure i agree with your last paragraph, as the tcp/ip layer could be left in place for legacy mode, but removed alltogether for normal mode. erland;218552 Wrote: > Sure it can, but again if you like this fat device for the same price as > the current solution, who is going to pay for that extra option ? definitely a weakness in my argument. someone who understands what i envision, what it would take to make it happen, and who could then run the numbers and make projections as to savings the company might get out of it in other areas, or project ever decreasing costs in components would have to figure that out. beyond my abilities i'm sad to say. erland;218552 Wrote: > The new plugin system in 7.0 doesn't have anything to do with fat/thin > device. One could obviously allow third party developers to develop > plugins for a proprietary har
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
MrSinatra;218421 Wrote: > i still don't understand why they want a "slim" device. why be slim? > > why not put the SS and SB into one chasis? why not give that chasis > usb ports (or whatever ports/readers) so you can hook up an ext drive > directly to it? (along with wired/wireless of course) > > i have never understood why they insist on having the SS NOT be part of > the actual device. > > the only benefit i see of having SS offloaded, is the ability to sync > multiple SBs. but i would think thats something that could be worked > out with a fat device such as what i'm proposing. > > (a fat device could have a free, lightweight OS like linux and people > could still modify the SS in it. the music data SS stores could go in > flash or on the drive it reads the music info from) > > the advantages of a fat device are legion: > > 1. only one environment to develop, no OS issues. > 2. portability > 3. no OS interference, (firewalls, etc...) > 4. single uniform upgrade path for users, single usage exp > 5. automatic updates > 6. automatic entertainment content updates > etc... > > think how many issues users have with those issues above. all solved > by a so called fat device. > > i'm sorry, but to me, having a device that needs me to run stuff on my > computer is old school. yes, SN is a good workaround, for everything > EXCEPT your own local music. (SN basically emulates the fat device i > am talking about, but doesn't do your local tunes AND requires the > internet) There are a legion of advantages to a slim architecture, as well. Suffice it to say that we think slim, or at least pretty slim, is the best way to go. It's not that "fat" is bad, per se, it is just that we think slim is better. What about SqueezeNetwork with MP3tunes? It's pretty much exactly what you've asked for... I understand it doesn't support lossless formats, but if it did, you would solve most of what you've asked for without fattening the device at all. > wouldn't it be cool if you could just grab your fat SB, an ext drive, > and jump in your car and road trip with it via bluetooth to your car > stereo? An iPod (or other MP3 player) accomplishes this quite nicely, is far more portable than a "fat SB3", and has the added advantage of being pocketable for even more musical enjoyment. > ...and i think the SB needs a bigger color screen, as well as a > rechargable remote that has a color screen on it, and a headphone jack > and bluetooth for headsets. > > based on what logitech offers i think everything i am talking about is > reasonable and doable, and in line with their consumer friendly POV. Since the SB3 is designed as an "across the room" experience, why would a color screen be preferred? Unless it was a pretty big screen, it would be harder to use and if were big, it would be pretty expensive. Just curious to understand what you perceive as the advantages. -- JimC "well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that." -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
> * Possibility to do the music scan and browsing tree compilation on a > desktop and transfer the database file to the NAS. I'm not convinced that scanning is such a heavyweight process that it couldn't be run efficiently on the lightest computer platforms. What needs to happen (for many reasons, this being just one) is that full clear/scans must be the _rare_ exception, not the rule necessary to fix the many remaining scanning idiosyncracies. An incremental scan of new and changed material should suit a lightweight platform just fine. > * Precompute things to reduce efforts to support the player in realtime. > For example, Browse artists/albums/songs could be divided up in groups > (no of groups could be a configurable parameter, e.g. 20) which means > that the number of artists/albums/songs never exceeds 20 at the outmost > level of the browsing tree, and each level of the browsing tree has at > most 20 branches. I think the current SlimServer approach has room for large improvements in efficiency. Many things have been done simply, while hoping to introduce as few bugs as possible. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Interest in developing a low complixity SS
I wonder if a device like the linutop http://www.linutop.com/ has enough power to run SS already today. Hell, it even has an VGA-out and of course ethernet and the concept of running the OS from an USB key makes software upgrades almost idiot-proof from the vendor side. Attach a simple USB hard disk to it or use a NAS storage in your network, even attaching a touch screen seems possible. All given that the linutop has enough processing power and touch screen drivers exist, of course. Bye, signor_rossi. -- signor_rossi signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37279 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
