Re: [slim] Duet skips when playing 48KHz/24bit flac files

2008-05-09 Thread _OS_

The last couple of days I have played three-four 24/48 albums in flac
format with only a few seconds of skipping. My conclusion is that the
software mentioned in my previous post works much better in handling
this format than the official release.

Keep up the good work Logitech!

Ole


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Re: [slim] music through headphone jack on duet remote?

2008-05-09 Thread BigTony

I'm holding out on a new controller until the headphone jack works. I
have a music rig out on my deck that would take a headphone output, so
it would be nice to wonder outside, fire up the BBQ, pour a nice drink
and listen to cool tunes. ATM I'm having to stream my music through a
N800 and hook that up to the amp when I want to go outside, or dust off
the Ipod!

Cheers

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Re: [slim] scanner.exe problem under VISTA

2008-05-09 Thread PSSO

I have the same problem - check
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47394


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread SuperQ

What I would like to know is exactly why you're not happy with the
roku?

I'll agree that you should try downloading SqueezeCenter first.  If you
don't like SqueezeCenter, you probably won't like the SqueezeBox any
more than the roku.


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Re: [slim] Best Music File Renaming program

2008-05-09 Thread BigTony

I have used the dynamic duo of MP3tag and MusicBrainz to sort out the
mess that was 1,800 cd's as flac.
MB can identify the cd, and then correctly tag the selection. Works!
If its not found in MB, then I fire up MP3tag and fix it the regular
by-hand-way, this was useful for bootlegs and live shows and obscure
cd's not in MB. You can also rename the actual filenames on you hd
using this. However, as the sb uses tags rather than file names, it
really doesn't matter what the file names actually are.
I also use foobar to add replaygain to all my flacs (a godsend).

BT

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Re: [slim] Shuffle algorithm

2008-05-09 Thread pippin

kmr;300284 Wrote: 
 I think you're mistaken here; if the RNG seed were the same, you'd get
 the SAME random number sequence.  What I get with my iPod and dislike
 is similar but not identical random number sequences - a classic sign
 of correlation with the RNG (i.e., different seeds produce similar
 sequences). And yes, I can tell that, out of several thousand songs, I
 tend to hear the same ones in the first 100 or so.

Can you describe what a similar but not identical random sequence is?
You are correct, my car radio plays IDENTICAL sequenced. But I don't
fully understand what you mean, then. To have similar sequences is not
necessarily a correlation, a correlations means predictability.


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Re: [slim] Connection reset by remote host

2008-05-09 Thread NewBuyer

Exactly the same thing has recently started happening with me too. We
use a wired SB3 with high-speed internet. Strange (and frustrating)...


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Re: [slim] Audioengine users question

2008-05-09 Thread NewBuyer

nwplace;300220 Wrote: 
 Audioegine 5s... most definitely hiss/hum... The hiss/hum is, however,
 too loud...

Good to know - thanks for posting this.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

bobkoure;300265 Wrote: 
 There was something called an -Audiotron-, made by Turtle Beach. It read
 music files from a SMB server (which may or may not count as running
 off a server). Upper limit around 14K tracks.
 I think you might find that a lot of folks here had at least one of
 these beasties in their past.


SMB is not an application server, it's just a file share.


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Re: [slim] Connection reset by remote host

2008-05-09 Thread bpa

A possible explanation is as follows.

Satellite connection have large TCP windows because of the longer
delays which means a larger number of unacknowledged packets will be
held in the SB compared to a terrestrial link.  Packets are only acked
when they are played. 

If packets are not acknowledged within a timeperiod (say 2 mins) the
link will be reset.  If you are listening to a stations using MP3 - it
is possible the SB has buffered 2 mins of audio and so it would be 2
mins before the last packet is acknowledged and hence link resets.  The
timeout value will depend on the station.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread Phil Meyer
not only that multiple ALBUMARTIST work on album. One can actually mix
and match various ALBUMARTISTS across the tracks of an album:

very good feature that definitely shouldn't be discontinued.

I doubt that was an intended feature.  Sounds really wrong.  ALBUMARTIST is for 
grouping all songs on an album to be by the same artist.  You have declared 
different album artists on songs on the same album.  I think you have a 
time-bomb waiting to happen.

Unless you don't actually have ALBUMARTIST tags because you've used some 
external tagging program that reports Album Artist but actually uses TPE2 
BAND tag instead?

I'm not getting what you are saying - you don't see a need for it in
your library or you don't see why somebody else would need it?

I personally would expect ALBUMARTIST to reference exactly one artist name.  I 
use ARTIST tags to denote who performs on the songs on the album, and 
occasionally add BAND tags to add additional information about performers on 
the album.  I use ALBUMARTIST to ensure that the album is seen as a regular 
album and appears under one artist when browsing by artist.

I don't have a problem with people using ALBUMARTIST to contain multiple artist 
names; seems a valid thing to do as long as the same info is on each song.

I may find a case when I will use that feature; I haven't yet, and not sure if 
I will.

My only concern was that SqueezeCenter also stores a contributor (artist 
foreign key) within the album record.  This can only be one artist, so what 
happens if I have two album artists?

Note that I have seen strange effects on an album where I only set ALBUMARTIST 
on one song, rather than all songs.  I thought that it would only be needed on 
songs with guest performers, but my recommendation is to set ALBUMARTIST on all 
songs.  Otherwise you seem to get the set of artists and track artists reported 
inconsistently (can't remember what the specific issues were, just remembered 
not to do it again!).

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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread Peter
SuperQ wrote:
 What I would like to know is exactly why you're not happy with the
 roku?
   

Good question.

 I'll agree that you should try downloading SqueezeCenter first.  If you
 don't like SqueezeCenter, you probably won't like the SqueezeBox any
 more than the roku.
   

I'm not so sure that's true. I think there are probably quite a few SB 
users who hardly ever use the webinterface.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

Sorry about the poetry or lack of.  I hope everyone knows Jaffacake by
now.  He likes to find problems in the Squeezebox and then helps people
on other sites decide whether to go with the Squeezebox or Sonos.  This
problem he is now having with his imaginary Squeezebox is brought up so
he can post elsewhere about the terrible problems of the Squeezebox. He
likes to read about the older problems, then he brings them up again as
a user.  We help him and if our help isn't perfect he posts it so that
he can show how much better the sonos is than a Squeezebox.  He
reviewed the Duet in the UK before it came out in the UK. He didn't
have one, but that didn't matter. Of course it was a bad review.   He
has a web page that he claims is the best in the world, it might be
(not), and has something big time against the Squeezebox or Logitech.


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread adamarndt

SuperQ;300320 Wrote: 
 I'll agree that you should try downloading SqueezeCenter first.  If you
 don't like SqueezeCenter, you probably won't like the SqueezeBox any
 more than the roku.

I disagree with that on the basis of my understanding that harleyman is
considering the Duet as a replacement for the Soundbridge. In my opinion
the Duet definitely shouldn't be judged by Softsqueeze and the web
interface.

To my mind the SB3 and earlier models are much more comparable to the
Soundbridge and similar devices whereas the Duet is much more iPody - I
personally bought a Duet system as my first network music player (in
part) because of the display on the Controller letting the missus
browse album covers to select music.

So basically I think that there are two categories of networked players
- the Soundbridge/SB3 class with graphically limited displays as opposed
to the Sonos/Duet type player allowing cover browsing and so forth.

As for harleymans actual question: does the logitech system work my
answer is an emphatic YES - it just works. I have approx. 600 albums on
a Synology DS207+ NAS running SC 7.0.1 connected via WiFi and I have no
problems whatsoever with that setup.


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Re: [slim] Building Playlists

2008-05-09 Thread larrettp

This is all good detail. It's hard to analyse with only a sketchy
outline of the database but I seriously believe the answers lie there.

I'm not proposing a single track record - just to eliminate the many-to
many tables. If that is not currently possible, how about creating an
index on both columns in each m-to-m table? Then create an index on the
referenced column in each parent. It's a bit messy but it could
eliminate a lot of table scans.

By the way, I downloaded a couple of your plugins but, as they are not
*.bin files, I can't upload them to he ReadyNas. Any chance of bin
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Re: [slim] SC7 sync and rebuffering problems

2008-05-09 Thread larrettp

I've just turned ALL logging off to see if it helps. I'll let you know.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Sike

Someone had to crack sooner or later. I was thinking about getting
myself a sonos system and testing it (do they have a return policy?),
making sure i had the oldest firmware availible and using a wide
variety of music formats and most importantly, get my grandmother to
set it up and post her opinion. My first comment would be It can't
play my music bought from iTunes...

Using Squeezcenter 7.0 (First public release) to test a system against
a prduct that has not changed much for the last 2 years is like a Mac
fanboy comparing OSX* (Aarvark.. or what are we on now) to Windows 95
and coming to the conclusion that OSX is far superior.

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Re: [slim] SB3 Display Dead. What now?

2008-05-09 Thread pulp_136

I hesitated opening the case, and now the analog audio outputs are also
out of order (only noise comes out). So, it has to go back. But thanks
for your replies anyway.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

Sorry Sike, I kept seeing stuff he could edit and misuse, and it pissed
me off.  You hit it well, much better than myself.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300347 Wrote: 
 Sorry about the poetry or lack of.  I hope everyone knows Jaffacake by
 now.  He likes to find problems in the Squeezebox and then helps people
 on other sites decide whether to go with the Squeezebox or Sonos.  This
 problem he is now having with his imaginary Squeezebox is brought up so
 he can post elsewhere about the terrible problems of the Squeezebox. He
 likes to read about the older problems, then he brings them up again as
 a user.  We help him and if our help isn't perfect he posts it so that
 he can show how much better the sonos is than a Squeezebox.  He
 reviewed the Duet in the UK before it came out in the UK. He didn't
 have one, but that didn't matter. Of course it was a bad review.   He
 has a web page that he claims is the best in the world, it might be
 (not), and has something big time against the Squeezebox or Logitech.

Report to site staff: Off-topic harassment. This thread started with a
genuine post from a genuine owner that now contains false accusations
and libel. I suggest it is removed.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread billingsgate

Just curious (and call me stupid if this info is on the website, because
I don't see it), in terms of internal hardware and sound quality, are
the Receiver and my SqueezeBox 3 essentially the same, or not? I'm
considering getting more devices for my home, and not sure which to
look at.

Secondly, does the controller easily switch between wireless networks?
I live in a 3-story house made entirely of steel-reinforced concrete.
Each floor must have its own separate wireless bridge, since the
wireless signal can't penetrate between floors. Each bridge has its own
frequency and security PIN, so when a wireless device moves from one
floor to another it has to log on as if to a new network (all these
bridges are different brands, so that's how I have to do it), though
they all connect to the same home network. So the question is: if I
carry the Controller between floors, it will lose one signal and locate
another. Can I save multiple security settings in it so that it
automatically logs on each time it loses one signal and finds another?

Anyone who has the patience to read my question and respond will be
blessed with gratitude.


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

If possible, I would suggest you try the product out in a local retail
store first. If a dealer has got one setup, you can see if it has the
right kind of 'feel' for you before committing to an order.

The 30-day money-back is only available online and repacking/shipping
good can be a lot of hassle if you get it out of the box and just don't
like it.


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread Howard Passman

After just getting mine working right, I believe Pfarrell gave the best
advice.  I started with the ReadyNAS DUO and that was my big mistake. 
I have since migrated to a Windows PC and everything that was supposed
to work is working.  

3rd party plug-ins are work!  I especially wanted the XM plug-in.  It
took a little bit to get it working and it still must be started each
time from the UI on the PC.  You can save favorite stations in your
playlist, but they disappear every time you scan your music files. 
At least mine do.

The initial set up *can* be a bit frustrating and then again sometimes
it isn't.  I do recommend wiring the receiver to your network.  I use
static IP on my network and setting up the controller took a bit more
time because you really can't do it on the initial set up.  I verified
this with Logitech.  Could be wrong, but I didn't find away around it. 
If you use DHCP, you're golden quickly.

My initial set up was very frustrating, but again, I believe it was
because the ReadyNAS DUO is seriously underpowered to run SC.  BTW, I
did upgrade the memeory to 1GB and it helped a tiny bit.  Also, if you
want to use any 3rd party plug-ins, getting help if you run a server is
hard and some, if not all, plug-ins aren't re-written well enough to do
exactly what the original was supposed to do.

Have a great weekend

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[slim] Controller slow to browse into with Music Folder

2008-05-09 Thread sk33ve

Hi all,

Bought a


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCentre XP SP3

2008-05-09 Thread billingsgate

I installed SP3 (had HUGE problems installing it!), but as someone else
said, there is almost nothing new in it compared to an up-to-date XP
system. Anyway, it has had no effect, good or bad, on my SqueezeCentre.
So don't worry.


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Re: [slim] Rescan doesn't work v7.0

2008-05-09 Thread finkaudio

Hi,

I'm right now facing the same problem and I don't have additional
plugins loaded, beside what's in the package. I wiped everything and
installed again, but it's still the same behavior.

I'm running XP and everything was fine until yesterday.

Is there any solution available already?

Best regards

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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300360 Wrote: 
 I also have filed a complaint against a non user that makes things up to
 support his love affair with sonos.  So there.

The attached picture shows My Greatest Hits album a few moments ago.
It seems that the album art became Tom Petty during the last index.

Now, please, drop it and stop causing ripples in what I have found is
otherwise a fairly friendly and helpful community.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

JimC;300370 Wrote: 
 I think you might want to be prepared for these forums to be somewhat
 chilly, in terms of their reception to you, given what our community
 can find by Googling for any of your aliases.
 
 
 -= Jim

In honesty, I've experienced much the opposite in general. I've found
some very helpful forum members who have provided valuable information
both on the forums and behind the seens on email/PM.

These are the people who make a community. They put their differences
aside and go out of their way to explain why they love Squeezebox and
what it offers them. They're also explained where I'm going wrong at
times like, as a simple example, I didn't know I could delete a track
from the queue using the controller which I would have highlighted as a
weakpoint otherwise.

They've helped me get a product, which I thought was buggy and unusable
on day 1, to a system that now plays music fairly reliably. You've got a
good community here, it's just a shame that a small handful of
individuals feel the need to spoil it for everybody.


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-05-09 Thread JimC

smc2911;299677 Wrote: 
 Excellent news re WikiRadio! Will the existing opml files be migrated
 over?

Sort of... the fix is just to reinstate the wikiradio portion of the
old wiki, at least for now.  So everything that was there before will
be available.

There's a lot of under the hood upgrading happening with the web site
right now, and we're planning to have a much better long term solution
once we're done.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

jaffacake;300368 Wrote: 
 The attached picture shows My Greatest Hits album a few moments ago.
 It seems that the album art became Tom Petty during the last index.
 
 Now, please, drop it and stop causing ripples in what I have found is
 otherwise a fairly friendly and helpful community.

So you win I and get edited.  Tell me why you are using the software
when you don't have a squeezebox.  Also tell me you haven't
misrepresented old data to influence people away from the Squeezebox. 
The ripples are people that are on to you and yes they are very
friendly and put up with you.  So why are you like this?  I do know
that you are getting a good laugh out of the company that I'm defending
supporting you.  Don't laugh too long my friend.


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-05-09 Thread JimC

JJZolx;300210 Wrote: 
 I think I asked the same thing.  These _really_ need to be updated to a
 readable form.  It would also yield better search results.
 
 It would probably take some type of global search and replace, as the
 URLs reflect the page titles.  In MediaWiki a space in a page title
 becomes an underscore in the page name.

Some of this has been done already (by hand).  In the little time I had
to research the MediaWiki site, I couldn't find any scripts / tools /
plug-ins that would automate the task.

I'm guessing it could possibly be done with one of the regex tools, but
that's out of my league.  We're a bit short on the web IT side, in terms
of time, so the Kwiki camel case page titles will probably hang around
for a while longer. 

Of course, if there's someone out there with experience/expertise in
this area, your contributions would be most welcome.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread mherger

Nonreality;300376 Wrote: 
 Tell me why you are using the software when you don't have a squeezebox.
 Also tell me you haven't misrepresented old data to influence people
 away from the Squeezebox.

No, please don't.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread JimC

jaffacake;300359 Wrote: 
 Report to site staff: Off-topic harassment. This thread started with a
 genuine post from a genuine owner that now contains false accusations
 and libel. I suggest it is removed.

We have a *very* light editing hand in general, and an especially light
one in your case.  As I said in previous posts, you brought much of this
on yourself with your postings elsewhere.  The internet leaves a very
public record... in this instance, you've left behind some messaging
that is, not to put too fine a point on it, of a pretty dodgy nature
(see the cnet post you made, for example).

In this particular instance, I'm going to edit out the fake bit
because I think that was a bit over the top and not really within the
forum guidelines.  I think you might want to be prepared for these
forums to be somewhat chilly, in terms of their reception to you, given
what our community can find by Googling for any of your aliases.


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Re: [slim] New Wiki Open for Editing!

2008-05-09 Thread JimC

bpa;299619 Wrote: 
 I think there are a few other areas where attachments were useful. If
 there was an Slimdevices ftp site where registered users could save
 small text files (and possibly make directorties) and put the URL link
 in a page - then the problem would go away.
 
 I think in the Plugin development guide the HelloWorld code example was
 attached as a complete file.  Currently the layout of the HelloWorld
 example would scare away potential developers.  Please look at this
 page
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HelloWorld

File uploads should work, with the exception of anything that MediaWiki
considers HTML (like OPML formatted wikiradio entries).


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Re: [slim] Controller slow to browse into with Music Folder

2008-05-09 Thread Michael Herger
I can confirm this issue (running SC on a ReadyNAS). A quick look at the code 
didn't reveal anything obvious.

But: when browsing on SB3, items are analyzed when they're displayed. This 
means everytime you go up/down one element. OTOH Controller fetches the full 
list of items.

If you have eg. 1000 folders and analyzing one costs 0.1 seconds, you will 
hardly notice the delay on SB3, while 1000*0.1 second sums up to a long delay.

It's a guess, would have to do more in-depth analysis.

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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300376 Wrote: 
 So you win I and get edited.  Tell me why you are using the software
 when you don't have a squeezebox.  Also tell me you haven't
 misrepresented old data to influence people away from the Squeezebox. 
 The ripples are people that are on to you and yes they are very
 friendly and put up with you.  So why are you like this?  I do know
 that you are getting a good laugh out of the company that I'm defending
 supporting you.  Don't laugh too long my friend.

Dude, Jim has already edited your highly inaccurate post to explain
quite clearly that I own a squeezebox. It's a brand new retail unit,
purchased in a store. I took lots of photos of it as I opened the box
so I could show people how nice the packaging is - Sonos by comparison
just ships in a solid printed cardboard box and polystyrene.

I'm half tempted to get home tonight and get Mrs. Jaffa to take a photo
of me with it holding an i love nonreality banner just so you get the
message.

I haven't knowingly misrepresented old data to mislead people away from
the Squeezebox - indeed, I took the feedback from my last review of the
product and realised that maybe the short time I had to play with the
product before it's UK launch was insufficient and I hadn't got the
most out of it; so I went and got a retail Duet for a proper owner
experience.

I regularly have visitors to my house who love my Sonos system and
enquire about getting one for themselves. Often the entry costs are
well out of their range and something like the Duet could be ideal for
them. As I'm an IT geek, they look to me for product recommendations;
but if they can't afford them I am no use. For example, if I get this
Duet system functioning as he needs, I may sell it to my brother who is
currently playing back his ripped music using his Archos which doesn't
have a display on the remote control.

Thanks again to those forum members who have helped me remove my Sonos
tinted spectacles and see Squeezebox in it's natural light.

Edit to add: Site moderators, please feel free to lock this thread at
your convenience. The initial problem has been discussed and an outline
solution proposed. There's no more value to come from this thread, I'll
start a new one in the beta section if 7.0.1 doesn't fix my issue.


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

One more thought. If/when you do try out the product, don't give up
after a couple of days if you aren't impressed. It took me a good
3-4days to start getting the best from the product and it's now at the
point where I'm highly unlikely to return it.

So, if you can afford the time, give it a week or so before making any
decisions.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread JimC

jaffacake;300374 Wrote: 
 In honesty, I've experienced much the opposite in general. I've found
 some very helpful forum members who have provided valuable information
 both on the forums and behind the seens on email/PM.
 
 These are the people who make a community. They put their differences
 aside and go out of their way to explain why they love Squeezebox and
 what it offers them.
 

Indeed, they are an amazing bunch.  Maybe it's that they are into open
source, and, therefore, more inclined toward idealism.  I'm not really
in their camp, when it comes to your posts... perhaps the fact I work
with words to communicate ideas sensitizes me to the subtle perjorative
jabs you take at our products in virtually EVERY message you post.

For example:

 They're also explained where I'm going wrong at times like, as a simple
 example, I didn't know I could delete a track from the queue using the
 controller which I would have highlighted as a weakpoint otherwise.

If you removed ...which I would have highlighted as a weakpoint
otherwise. the sentence would have been just as effective in
communicating your point but wouldn't have contained what I believe is
your *real* message.

But maybe I'm just jaded from years of experience on Usenet (prior to
the Great Renaming), newgroups, BBSes, forums, etc.

Or this example:

 They've helped me get a product, which I thought was buggy and unusable
 on day 1, to a system that now plays music fairly reliably. You've got
 a good community here, it's just a shame that a small handful of
 individuals feel the need to spoil it for everybody.

You could have said: They've helped me work through a few problems and
now I have a system that play music fairly reliably.  Or even They've
helped me get up and running despite a few problems.

See the difference?  Of course you do.  In my opinion the extra words
are very deliberate, which means you know exactly what I'm saying.

A favorite colloquialism here in the United States is: You can put
lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.  In this case, it means
dressing up your posts with an outwardly helpful appearance and an
underlying tone of subtle disappointment, still delivers the message
you really want to convey.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

jaffacake;300381 Wrote: 
 Dude, Jim has already edited your highly inaccurate post to explain
 quite clearly that I own a squeezebox. It's a brand new retail unit,
 purchased in a store. I took lots of photos of it as I opened the box
 so I could show people how nice the packaging is - Sonos by comparison
 just ships in a solid printed cardboard box and polystyrene.
 
 I'm half tempted to get home tonight and get Mrs. Jaffa to take a photo
 of me with it holding an i love nonreality banner just so you get the
 message.
 
 I haven't knowingly misrepresented old data to mislead people away from
 the Squeezebox - indeed, I took the feedback from my last review of the
 product and realised that maybe the short time I had to play with the
 product before it's UK launch was insufficient and I hadn't got the
 most out of it; so I went and got a retail Duet for a proper owner
 experience.
 
 I regularly have visitors to my house who love my Sonos system and
 enquire about getting one for themselves. Often the entry costs are
 well out of their range and something like the Duet could be ideal for
 them. As I'm an IT geek, they look to me for product recommendations;
 but if they can't afford them I am no use. For example, if I get this
 Duet system functioning as he needs, I may sell it to my brother who is
 currently playing back his ripped music using his Archos which doesn't
 have a display on the remote control.
 
 Thanks again to those forum members who have helped me remove my Sonos
 tinted spectacles and see Squeezebox in it's natural light.
 
 Edit to add: Site moderators, please feel free to lock this thread at
 your convenience. The initial problem has been discussed and an outline
 solution proposed. There's no more value to come from this thread, I'll
 start a new one in the beta section if 7.0.1 doesn't fix my issue.

First off, I'm not Dude.  2nd I'm sorry to insult you.  I didn't know
that you bought one after you reviewed it.  That makes a difference. 
Funny that you have found that it plays ok music.  You are good at
making everyone feel sorry for you and thats the sign of good pr.  I
have nothing against you except that I've just found you in so many
places putting down the squeezebox.  Now I can't go into all of them
and you know that but you also know the place you have done this.  I
really am just curious why?  Did they not give you one to review?  Not
hire you?  This is a good place and I'm protective of people getting
set up again, and if you are for real this time then I do apologize. 
And if you want to get the Mrs. I'll sure take a look. :)


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread MuckleEck

Ben,

I take it from your last reply that you would recommend the Sonos
system over the Squeezebox system every time if someone had the money?


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300386 Wrote: 
 First off, I'm not Dude.  2nd I'm sorry to insult you.  I didn't know
 that you bought one after you reviewed it.  That makes a difference. 
 Funny that you have found that it plays ok music.  You are good at
 making everyone feel sorry for you and thats the sign of good pr.  I
 have nothing against you except that I've just found you in so many
 places putting down the squeezebox.  Now I can't go into all of them
 and you know that but you also know the place you have done this.  I
 really am just curious why?  Did they not give you one to review?  Not
 hire you?  This is a good place and I'm protective of people getting
 set up again, and if you are for real this time then I do apologize. 
 And if you want to get the Mrs. I'll sure take a look. :)

First off, I've avoided any negative opinion of the product on this
forum; but, yes, I have cast some considerable criticism about the
place on various av forums. These were based on a short, but very real,
exposure I had with the product. Usually a short time with the product
is enough to get a general feel for it, indeed it's all many newspaper
or magazine reviewers have time for. They plug it in, play with it a
bit and then copy/paste a few lines from the press pack to fill out
their review. A good Sonos example would be that Guardian review where
they claimed there was a proximity sensor in the handset. There isn't,
it's a motion sensor, but this is what you get from a short term
review.

I inhabit a few different forums and get Google updates on Sonos about
the place. I like to see what people think and what they are saying.
This alerted me to many a post about Duet and how it was better than
Sonos or, to paraphrase just as good, but cheaper. I knew, from my
exposure, this simply wasn't the case and so it's only natural that I
would post a response in an attempt to balance out the thread.

I know where I have made posts and when my, considerably more detailed,
comparitive review is complete I will be posting it in all of those
places as an update for people to consider before purchase. If
possible, without doing crazy thread bumping, I will tag it onto the
end of existing discussions.

I have no axe to grind with Logitech, I've bought their equipment in
the past...no problem...my first mouse was a Logitech trackball, and
my latest webcam is also Logitech branded. Likewise, no real problems
with SB or Slim; none at all prior to posting my cnet review.

You want to look at my Mrs? ;)


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Re: [slim] Warnings in scanner logs

2008-05-09 Thread Michael Herger
 [08-05-08 04:38:50.1951] MPEG::Audio::Frame::broken (618) Warning: Use
 of uninitialized value in right bitshift () at
 I:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\lib/MPEG/Audio/Frame.pm line 618, $mpeg
 chunk 4.

Is the file still scanned correctly?

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Re: [slim] Fishbone javascript error?

2008-05-09 Thread 4mula1

kdf;300309 Wrote: 
 I create a file with an asterisk in  
 it, and nothing seems to be wrong.  Unfortunately, I don't have much  
 free
 time to spend trying random tests so if you can point to something  
 more specific, then there is a much better chance that I can fix it.
 -k

Use a file with an ampersand in it.  In my above post that's what
failed for me and what the OP referred to.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

MuckleEck;300384 Wrote: 
 Ben,
 
 I take it from your last reply that you would recommend the Sonos
 system over the Squeezebox system every time if someone had the money?

Most of the time, but certainly not every time.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

You want to look at my Mrs? ;)

You did offer, I think.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

I am glad to see that even though they edited my comments someone from
Logitech understands my point rather well.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

JimC;300385 Wrote: 
 If you removed ...which I would have highlighted as a weakpoint
 otherwise. the sentence would have been just as effective in
 communicating your point but wouldn't have contained what I believe is
 your *real* message.

  
  My point, in all your examples, was to show how I'd contrasted opinion.
  These guys have turned me from being ice cold to the product to being
  warm. The contrast had a deliberate inclusion to show the marked
  change. Clearly removing a track from the queue could never be a
  weakpoint because you CAN remove a track from the queue, my statement
  doesn't change that.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

Here is his type of review.  He finds my post in the beta section about
having freeze ups with the last two beta's.  He then posts here about
having a freeze up.  Someone posts that they have read that someone
else had a problem with the same thing.  He then posts at amazon or
somewhere else:  Even users of the Squeezecenter software keep
reporting many problems with freeze ups, goto such and such a post
without saying it's beta software or anything else.  This was exactly
what he did with the duet review.  Like I said before if he is over
that kind of stuff then I have no problem with him.  If he isn't then I
will have a problem.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300398 Wrote: 
 Here is his type of review.  He finds my post in the beta section about
 having freeze ups with the last two beta's.  He then posts here about
 having a freeze up.  Someone posts that they have read that someone
 else had a problem with the same thing.  He then posts at amazon or
 somewhere else:  Even users of the Squeezecenter software keep
 reporting many problems with freeze ups, goto such and such a post
 without saying it's beta software or anything else.  This was exactly
 what he did with the duet review.  Like I said before if he is over
 that kind of stuff then I have no problem with him.  If he isn't then I
 will have a problem.

I really wish you wouldn't keep speculating.

Commenting on beta is a difficult one. If I have a problem and I'm NOT
using beta, I get feedback that I should update to the latest 7.0.1
beta code. They say they know it is beta, but it's better than the
release code and contains less bugs.

If I comment on beta, I get told that I am criticising beta code and
this isn't fair or accurate.

It's going to be a very difficult angle on my review, at least the
hardware isn't beta.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

Reporting on your past behavior is not speculation.  Anyway, your
review?  are you talking about your web page?  No problem there.  Say
what you will.  It's just your posts at other read websites that  bug
me with your non facts.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Nonreality;300404 Wrote: 
 Reporting on your past behavior is not speculation.  Anyway, your
 review?  are you talking about your web page?  No problem there.  Say
 what you will.  It's just your posts at other read websites that  bug
 me with your non facts.

Like I said, my comments around the place were entirely factual based
on a limited time review - I really object to being called a liar.

My mom always told me not to negotiate with bullies. I thought it was
productive at first, but now I'm realising she was right.

Enjoy your day, our discussion is over.


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

Limited time review.  What a way to say anything you want to say.  First
you are not a reviewer.  Going to various web sites and slamming a
product doesn't make you a reviewer.  Having your own little web site
doesn't make you a reviewer.  I'm not the only one that feels this way
about you, most are just asleep right now.  Like I said, if you are
done with that type of stuff then I have no problem.  I'm kinda
surprised you would resort to calling me a bully.  First for me.  If
defending a product that I enjoy from unwarranted attacks makes me a
bully then your damn right I am.


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Re: [slim] Running AAC Plus with SC7

2008-05-09 Thread jbloggs

Do pardon my inquiry if it sounds a bit on the stupid side!

I already have AlienBBC installed, with mplayer etc (used the install
pack for SqueezeCenter 7.0), I downloaded the AACplusWin.zip file,
which contains ACCplusWin folder containing a ACCplusWin file of
3.04KB, I have put the folder ACCplusWin (containing the ACCplusWin
file) into C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\Server\Plugins, however
what I don't understand is how I get the Plugin.pm and a Bin directory
(Step 2 of instructions) into .\Server\Plugins\ACCplusWin folder?

I am using Vista Business 64 bit.

How do I accomplish this, so I can get accPlus streams to work?

Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Running AAC Plus with SC7

2008-05-09 Thread bpa

The folder ACCplusWinis still a zip file - you need to unzip it and
there you will find the contents of PLugin.pm etc.

If you downloaded the AACplusWin.zip file using IE 6 or IE7, they
usually compress the AACplusWin.zip file into a GZ file. Why it does
this is not clear (it doesn't happen with Firefox) but it adds the
extra layer which has to be unzipped.


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Re: [slim] What Logitech and this forum have forgotten

2008-05-09 Thread Nonreality

I'm surprised that you are having problems with XM.  Do you get it very
good on your computer?  Are you running 2.0 of the plugin?  I run mine
any time of the day with no problems.  Maybe it has something to do
with the Duet, I'm sb3. On mine it comes in much better than on any of
my computers.  Logging in is immediate unlike on my computer.  I hope
you get it going, I just have to have my Opie and Anthony fix. I'm
listening live to them now.  :)  If Logitech developed something for XM
we would have another radio fee I believe.


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[slim] SqueezeCenter doesn't automatically run at system login

2008-05-09 Thread Nostromo

I'm now using Windows Vista Home Premium. It starts automatically in the
administrator account, but not in my standard user account. I selected
the Automatically run at login option in the Squeezetray, but the
option is always unchecked when I reboot. I checked in the Windows
Software Explorer, and SqueezeCenter is set to startup for all users.
Thanks for the help!

SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 17793 - Windows Vista - EN - cp1252


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread Sike

I had been reading this thread (and others) for a while now and have not
seen this much passive agressivenes for a while.

My opinion is: If you like Mac's, go to the Mac forums. If you don't
like them, leave them alone. It's unlikley that you will make any
friends on a Linux forum trying to convince them that Vista is
better... The best thing about it is that everybody is right :)

http://reviews.cnet.com/must-have-gadgets/


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter doesn't automatically run at system login

2008-05-09 Thread Sike

I would set it to run as a service. There is a program which does this
in the Squeezecenter program group. -Start -- Programs --
Squeezecenter


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Re: [slim] Missing Music after import

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Sike;300454 Wrote: 
 I had been reading this thread (and others) for a while now and have not
 seen this much passive agressivenes for a while.
 
 My opinion is: If you like Mac's, go to the Mac forums. If you don't
 like them, leave them alone. It's unlikley that you will make any
 friends on a Linux forum trying to convince them that Vista is
 better... The best thing about it is that everybody is right :)
 
 http://reviews.cnet.com/must-have-gadgets/

Nobody has been anti-SB in this forum, that's the point - interesting
link though.

I see in the link that we have the cnet must have gadgets, as judged
by...well, them really.

They appear to be in no particular order whatsoever. If you read
closely, they're alphabetical. I've been comparing the cnet score
with the user score.

Asus Eee PC - cnet: 7.3/10 User: 9.0/10
HP 2133 PC - cnet: 7.5/10 User: 6.9/10
LG Voyager - cnet: 8.3/10 User: 7.5/10
Logitech Harmony One - cnet: 8.7/10 User: 8.7/10
Logitech SB Duet - cnet: 8.7/10 User: 6.4/10
Wii - cnet: 8.0/10 User: 8.2/10
Nokia N95: cnet: 8.0/10 User: 8.5/10
Slingbox AV cnet: 8.0/10 User 7.6/10
Sony NWZ-A818 cnet: 8.0/10 User: 8.5
Sony Walkman cnet8.0/10 User: No reviews

Throughout these score, it's fair to say that cnet were pretty close to
the user rating, except with the Duet which scored significantly less.

Looking at the individual scores for the Duet, we see:

9, 9, 4, 4, 9, 4, 6, 3, 8, 8, 6

That's some serious variation.

Comparitively, the Sonos Bundle 130 also scored an 8.7 with cnet...yet
strangely no mention in the Top 10.

The Sonos bundle also carries a user review variation, with some
strangely low scores, yet still manages an 8.3/10 from the
readers...again almost on a par with the cnet scores.

I'm not going to draw any conclusions from all this, but it is very
weird that 2 products can have the same score yet the one with the
highest overall rating doesn't make the Top 10.


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Re: [slim] Fishbone javascript error?

2008-05-09 Thread kdf

On 9-May-08, at 3:22 AM, 4mula1 wrote:


 kdf;300309 Wrote:
 I create a file with an asterisk in
 it, and nothing seems to be wrong.  Unfortunately, I don't have much
 free
 time to spend trying random tests so if you can point to something
 more specific, then there is a much better chance that I can fix it.
 -k

 Use a file with an ampersand in it.  In my above post that's what
 failed for me and what the OP referred to.

d'oh.  sorry.  so much garbage from trolls and trollbashing that it  
isn't very easy to take the real information on board any more

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Re: [slim] What Logitech and this forum have forgotten

2008-05-09 Thread tyler_durden

gorman;299961 Wrote: 
 Quite frankly... no. And the fact that you feel necessary to call it
 windoze speaks volumes. In my three, mostly happy, years with
 Slimdevices products, Windows has never been the problem, even with a
 regular antivirus going on all the time (AntiVir).

Many less experienced computer users have trouble distinguishing
between a poorly operating computer system and one with a properly
functioning operating system.  They think that it is normal for
computers to require things like antivirus and antispyware software,
almost daily security patches and their requisite reboots, and slow
application start-up and shutdown because that is all they have ever
known.

TD


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread Greg Klanderman
 Phil Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My only concern was that SqueezeCenter also stores a contributor
 (artist foreign key) within the album record.  This can only be one
 artist, so what happens if I have two album artists?

As I said above, I was expecting multiple ALBUMARTIST tags not to work
knowing there is a single contributor on the album, however, it turns
out this field is only used for the fix to bug 3255, something about
getting the alphabar anchors at the top of the browse page correct.
I've noticed no problems.

I still can't imagine why anyone would want combinations of artists to
appear under Browse Artists but that of course is your choice. :-)

If you're interested in the history of this usage, see these bugs:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4509

My thanks to Keith Briscoe for figuring out that ALBUMARTIST would
solve the problem; I was envisioning a much more complicated solution.

greg
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Re: [slim] What Logitech and this forum have forgotten

2008-05-09 Thread Howard Passman

Nonreality;300439 Wrote: 
 I'm surprised that you are having problems with XM.  Do you get it very
 good on your computer?  Are you running 2.0 of the plugin?  I run mine
 any time of the day with no problems.  Maybe it has something to do
 with the Duet, I'm sb3. On mine it comes in much better than on any of
 my computers.  Logging in is immediate unlike on my computer.  I hope
 you get it going, I just have to have my Opie and Anthony fix. I'm
 listening live to them now.  :)  If Logitech developed something for XM
 we would have another radio fee I believe.

Thanks for your response.  Welll, i was running a Netgear ReadyNAS
DUO and that seems to be where almost all of my problems came from.  I
took someones suggestion and moved SC to a PC and now things are very
good.  XM comes in fine, but the problem is it will not show on my
controller unless I open it using the UI on the PC.  This is the same
whether on the PC or the NAS.  The other annoying thing that happens is
every time i scan my music files I loose my XM Favs.

Anyway, I'm willing to live with these issues.unless you have a fix
:-)

Have a great weekend,

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Re: [slim] What Logitech and this forum have forgotten

2008-05-09 Thread Howard Passman

tyler_durden;300466 Wrote: 
 Many less experienced computer users have trouble distinguishing between
 a poorly operating computer system and one with a properly functioning
 operating system.  They think that it is normal for computers to
 require things like antivirus and antispyware software, almost daily
 security patches and their requisite reboots, and slow application
 start-up and shutdown because that is all they have ever known.
 
 TD

There certainly are millions of less experienced computer users out
there.  Maybe we need to start a ranking service.  Man, comments like
this that are pretty much unrelated to the initial question and that
bring nothing to the table really eat at me.  Please bring something
constructive.

Still cranky from yesterday.

Howard


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Re: [slim] music through headphone jack on duet remote?

2008-05-09 Thread gharris999

I believe that the controller headphone audio stuff is going into 7.2,
currently. It seems like what used to be known as the trunk
development has been split into three trunks: 7.1, 7.2  7.3.  I think
that most of the 7.1 development thrust thus far has been to refactor a
lot of the java script under the hood of the web interface.  

It may be that the controller audio out 7.2 feature could be moved
down into 7.1 for its release if the development goes well.  

AFAIK, Richard T is completely rewriting all the audio code that went
into softsqueeze and squeezeslave for this effort.  As far as I'm
concerned, this is a hopeful sign: I imagine that Richard knows the old
code better than anyone and he knows all it's limitations.  No one else
would be in a better position to justify starting over from scratch
than Richard.  

I feel confident enough in this that I just placed an order for 3
controllers and I fully expect to be able to hear audio out of them
before the end of the summer, though I also expect that I'll have to
run beta code to do so.


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Re: [slim] Warnings in scanner logs

2008-05-09 Thread wdwyer

I get a scan that's about 10K tracks short (165K tracks vs 175K tracks
according to Music Express


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread morris_minor

billingsgate;300361 Wrote: 
 Just curious (and call me stupid if this info is on the website, because
 I don't see it), in terms of internal hardware and sound quality, are
 the Receiver and my SqueezeBox 3 essentially the same, or not? I'm
 considering getting more devices for my home, and not sure which to
 look at.

The SB3 and SBR use different DACs, and you should head over to the
audiophile forum to find out if one's better than the other. For most
people, the performance will be equally good! The main difference
between the two is the lack of display on the Receiver, and the
pricing. Eventually the Receiver and Controller will be sold
separately, so you can add cheaper Receivers to your system without
doubling up on Controllers. One controller can control any number of
SB3/SBR/Transporters since it connects to Squeezecenter, not the
devices themselves.

Since I don't use my controller on multiple wireless networks I'll have
to pass on that one . . . 

Bob


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread mparry

Hi Harleyman feel free to give our sales department or our tech support
team a call if you like. we would more than happy to help you decide
which of our products would best suit your needs. our number is
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Re: [slim] Audioengine users question

2008-05-09 Thread menno

nwplace;300220 Wrote: 
 I recently purchased a pair of Audioegine 5s and they most definitely
 hiss/hum but do not pop.  The hiss/hum is, however, too loud when
 trying to sleep.

Mine dont hiss/hum when in standby, but just pop when they switch into
power-saving mode.

If yours hiss/hum, you should get them exchanged I think.

Do yours not pop when the switch into power-saving mode?

I tried with setting the Squeezebox to turn off the outputs, and it
made no difference to the popping.

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Re: [slim] music through headphone jack on duet remote?

2008-05-09 Thread rdefelice

Speaking of audio through the controller, maybe one of the developers
can chime in here and answer me this...

When audio out support is added to the controller, is it expected to
play nice with Rhapsody or other DRM'd audio that is decoded in the
firmware of the current players?


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-09 Thread Peter
harleyman wrote:
 Appreciate all the input from everyone.  My big concern now is as I've
 stated earlier.  All my music (50,000+ songs) are stored on a MYbook 1
 terrabyte external hard drive, hooked up to my new toshiba laptop.  As
 for the questions about the ROKU soundbridge, I've had it for about a
 month now. It is very frustrating, finds all my files in both media
 center and firefly, however it will sometimes play one or two songs
 then stop. cant make it do what it's suppose to. I've reloaded Firefly
 and MediaJukebox several time with no sucess. Don't want to spend the
 money and have this do the same thing to me.  I have too much music to
 use an old computer as another member suggested.
   

Can't you just connect your external drive to an 'old' computer? Why 
wouldn't that work? Serving audio files is not such a big deal...

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread slimkid

just FYI,

attached is slimserver database model. I'd like to turn your attention
to contributor_album table.

@greg, no serious discussion can be based on the premisse I don't use
it and I don't see why anybody else would.

If you want to participate in the real world excercise, I can give you
an example album and reasonable user expectations, so you could offer
the alternative solution.

@philip, if this is ever broken, world won't come to an end. I can
choose to:
- not upgrade any further
- keep old scanner (if possible) or customize it.
- customize the new scannner
- change my tagging scheme using newly introduced features


BTW, there's an issue with the VA that nobody is mentioning - even if
there is unique ALBUMARTISTS and different ARTISTs for tracks, album
will be considered a compilation and placed under Various Artists in
artists view. In album view, it will be sorted among other 'V' artists.
In both cases it will show 'by albumartist' correctly after the album
name.

cheers
K


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI
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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread mvalera

morris_minor;300496 Wrote: 
 Eventually the Receiver and Controller will be sold separately, so you
 can add cheaper Receivers to your system without doubling up on
 Controllers.

Ummm... that's actually the point of this post. They're for sale right
now on our ecom store. :)


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

The way I use ALBUMARTIST and the way I believe it was intended is as a
means of designating the artist(s) to which the album should be
attributed.  As an _override_ mechanism to the normal/original behavior
of attributing the album to all of the artists that appear on the
album.

I don't think I've used multiple ALBUMARTIST tags to date, but I could
certainly see it and see that it would be perfectly valid.  Using
different sets of ALBUMARTISTs on different tracks of an album,
however, I still see as inconsistent and meaningless.

The album.contributor column is used for sorting albums by artist (and,
consequently, organizing the alpha pagebar).  Its use in SquezeCenter is
one of the reasons that sorting albums by band or composer isn't
possible.  There is only _one_ contributor by which albums can be
sorted under the current implementation.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

slimkid;300504 Wrote: 
 BTW, there's an issue with the VA that nobody is mentioning - even if
 there is unique ALBUMARTISTS and different ARTISTs for tracks, album
 will be considered a compilation and placed under Various Artists in
 artists view. In album view, it will be sorted among other 'V' artists.
 In both cases it will show 'by albumartist' correctly after the album
 name.

You're right.

IMO, designating an ALBUMARTIST should immediately override the normal
VA determination and make the album a non-compilation.  You can do this
yourself with an explicity COMPILATION=0 tag in some file types, but it
shouldn't be necessary.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread slimkid

JJZolx;300511 Wrote: 
 You're right.
 
 IMO, designating an ALBUMARTIST should immediately override the normal
 VA determination and make the album a non-compilation.  You can do this
 yourself with an explicity COMPILATION=0 tag in some file types, but it
 shouldn't be necessary.

Setting COMPILATION=0 works, but with the side effect that all artists
for the album are listed in artist list.

I tried changing album.compilation to 0 in database after the full scan
and it appears to do the trick, so it might be just a matter of changing
the scanner code.

K


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI
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Re: [slim] What Logitech and this forum have forgotten

2008-05-09 Thread Peter

On Fri, 9 May 2008 07:47:11 -0700, tyler_durden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 gorman;299961 Wrote: 
  Quite frankly... no. And the fact that you feel necessary to call it
  windoze speaks volumes. In my three, mostly happy, years with
  Slimdevices products, Windows has never been the problem, even with a
  regular antivirus going on all the time (AntiVir).
 
 Many less experienced computer users have trouble distinguishing
 between a poorly operating computer system and one with a properly
 functioning operating system.  They think that it is normal for
 computers to require things like antivirus and antispyware software,
 almost daily security patches and their requisite reboots, and slow
 application start-up and shutdown because that is all they have ever
 known.

You exaggerate. If Linux had the same users as Windows it too would
require anti-virus and anti-spyware tools. Linux does require almost
daily security patches, more frequently than windows I think. Luckily on
Linux a reboot is seldom required. I just reconfigured a system from
Ubuntu to Windows XP and the desktop suddenly seemed a lot snappier.
Having siad that, I'm running SC on Linux and I wouldn't have it any
other way. SC works best on Linux/Unix, because Perl works best on Unix.
It works pretty well on Windows, but just not quite as good.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread mvalera

billingsgate;300361 Wrote: 
 Just curious (and call me stupid if this info is on the website, because
 I don't see it), in terms of internal hardware and sound quality, are
 the Receiver and my SqueezeBox 3 essentially the same, or not? I'm
 considering getting more devices for my home, and not sure which to
 look at.

They are essentially the same, but the Receiver has no headphone jack,
and a lower cost but still high quality DAC. 

 Secondly, does the controller easily switch between wireless networks? I
 live in a 3-story house made entirely of steel-reinforced concrete. Each
 floor must have its own separate wireless bridge, since the wireless
 signal can't penetrate between floors. Each bridge has its own
 frequency and security PIN, so when a wireless device moves from one
 floor to another it has to log on as if to a new network (all these
 bridges are different brands, so that's how I have to do it), though
 they all connect to the same home network. So the question is: if I
 carry the Controller between floors, it will lose one signal and locate
 another. Can I save multiple security settings in it so that it
 automatically logs on each time it loses one signal and finds another?

You can easily switch wireless networks... the only thing is your setup
is not ideal.

If you put an wireless access point on each floor, use the same SSID on
each, and only vary the channel (1,6,11)you won't have to switch
networks. This is assuming you have them all connected to your router
via a wired connection.

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[slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-09 Thread jaffacake

Apologies if this has been covered before, I did search the forums
without success.

Is it possible for 2 independent users to share a SqueezeCenter between
them, but not have control over each others players?

For example, if you life in a household with children, you may wish to
give them an SB receiver of their own in their bedroom - but you would
want them to have access to each others receivers or to the main
household ones in the living room or in Mom  Dad's room. 

Is this possible? Or would they each need to run their own server? If
they each ran their own instance of SC on their own PC, assuming they
still share a LAN based network, is it still possible to stop one child
attaching to the other's server using either their SB Controller or
their web browser?

I'm think of the same scenario applying in student houses, who may want
to pool their music onto one box, or in small guesthouses; where the
owner may wish to put a music player in each room but not allows other
guests to accidentally wake each other up!

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread slimkid

JJZolx;300522 Wrote: 
 That, IMO, is a bug.  I think those artists should be suppressed whether
 or not the album is a compilation.  I think the problem is more
 historical than anything else - at one time any album that had more
 than one artist was considered a compilation no matter what.  It was
 never foreseen that you could have non-compilations by using explicit
 COMPILATION tags or ALBUMARTIST.
 
 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5108
 
 The example I always use is the Sinatra album called 'Duets', where
 Sinatra records each track with a different artist.  This is obviously
 a non-compilation.  It's a Sinatra album and you want it grouped with
 Sinatra, so the ALBUMARTIST is Sinatra.  Currently for SqueezeCenter
 you must mark it explicitly with COMPILATION=0.  Unfortunately, as you
 point out, all those guest artists will be listed in the artist list.
 
 This is a bug that I really wish would get fixed.  I think it would
 simplify a lot of things greatly.

You know, that is a tough call. In your Sinatra example, without
COMPILATION tag set, all those other guys might be not significant
enough to deserve a place in artist list. But problem is if some of
them are, then even if there is a guest artist there who also has a
separate album in your library, you won't be able to flow between those
two albums based on that artist. Solution I found is to tag only those
tracks with COMPILATION=0.

Then, what if, in classical music case there's an album where star
soprano sings stuff from 5 famous composers. Soprano becomes
ALBUMARTIST, composers become ARTIST, but I do want them to show in
artist list and I want to be able to browse by that artist for other
albums where they might participate. Setting COMPILATION=0 (for all
tracks) solves is. So, in this case,it is desired behavior.

I almost see a need for ALBUMCOMPILATION tag :) :) :)

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Re: [slim] Fishbone javascript error?

2008-05-09 Thread kdf

well, I don't see the error in firebug, but I can reproduce the play
file problem.  It needs a bug filed.  That is, if you want to have any
chance of it being fixed for 7.0.1.  If there are more details, they
need to go into that bug.
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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

slimkid;300527 Wrote: 
 Solution I found is to tag only those tracks with COMPILATION=0.

Again, this is an album property, not a property of the track.  If, for
some reason it affects how SqueezeCenter treats the artists on the track
then you're really just exploiting a side effect that could go away
overnight.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread Greg Klanderman

 slimkid  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 @greg, no serious discussion can be based on the premisse I don't use
 it and I don't see why anybody else would.

SlimKid, you have misinterpreted (or misrepresented) what I wrote.
I counter that no serious discussion can be had with someone such
as yourself who is either incapable of reading simple English or
unwilling to make the effort to understand what has been written.

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread Greg Klanderman
 JJZolx  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5108

 The example I always use is the Sinatra album called 'Duets', where
 Sinatra records each track with a different artist.  This is obviously
 a non-compilation.  It's a Sinatra album and you want it grouped with
 Sinatra, so the ALBUMARTIST is Sinatra.  Currently for SqueezeCenter
 you must mark it explicitly with COMPILATION=0.  Unfortunately, as you
 point out, all those guest artists will be listed in the artist list.

I wonder why I don't see this problem.. I do this sort of thing all
the time.  I have the different ARTIST tags on each track, then a
single ALBUMARTIST across all tracks, and no COMPILATION tags anywhere
in my entire library.  And I do not see those auxiliary track artists
in the Browse Artists menu.

Running 7.0 out of svn from late February (r17707), will likely update
within the 7.0 branch this weekend.

How do you have your server compilation parameters set?

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Re: [slim] Welborne Labs ?

2008-05-09 Thread coupesport

A happy ending. 

The kit was delivered to my work whilst i was away and they'd forgot to
inform me (work that is). Congrats to Ron at Welborne for delivering my
order to the UK in 2 weeks. 

Built the unit today and it's now powering my Duet. Very pleased with
the results too. 

So a definite thumbs up for Welborne.

Cheers

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread morris_minor

mvalera;300505 Wrote: 
 Ummm... that's actually the point of this post. They're for sale right
 now on our ecom store. :)

Err - not from Logitech UK . . .  yet  . . .


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Re: [slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-09 Thread MuckleEck

The simple answer would be to use an SB3 in each place with an IR remote
only.


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Re: [slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

No.  There's no multi-user security in SqueezeCenter.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

billingsgate;300361 Wrote: 
 Just curious (and call me stupid if this info is on the website, because
 I don't see it), in terms of internal hardware and sound quality, are
 the Receiver and my SqueezeBox 3 essentially the same, or not? I'm
 considering getting more devices for my home, and not sure which to
 look at.

From what I've gathered, using the Receiver without the Controller is
not officially supported.  I would assume they're beig sold as added
players for installations that already have a Controller or for
advanced users willing to use third-party software needed for setting
up the Receiver without a Controller.


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Re: [slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-09 Thread Pat Farrell
jaffacake wrote:
 For example, if you life in a household with children, you may wish to
 give them an SB receiver of their own in their bedroom - but you would
 want them to have access to each others receivers or to the main
 household ones in the living room or in Mom  Dad's room. 

I assume you left out a 'not' here

Anything is possible. Its open source.

You could, for instance, have two copies of SqueezeCenter on different 
ports, pointing to different libraries.

AFAIK, Squeezecenter does not implement the equivalent of Basic Auth, 
which is what you'd want to have userids and passwords for each HTTP 
address.

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread slimkid

JJZolx;300530 Wrote: 
 Again, this is an album property, not a property of the track.  If, for
 some reason it affects how SqueezeCenter treats the artists on the
 track then you're really just exploiting a side effect that could go
 away overnight.

Oh, I'm well avare of that. It just works, just as different artists in
albumartist work for what I want to achieve. And, if it at some point
stops ... well, I'll have to find some other way.

K


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[slim] Filtering compilation artists from artist browse menu

2008-05-09 Thread friendlyfire

hi, 

I know there are a number of threads that touch on this point but I
confess I haven't been able to sort them out in a way that helps me
solve my problem. 

What I am trying to achive is quite simple. I would like clean up the
artist list so the many artists with tracks just on compilation albums
go away.  

I am using primarly FLAC files, with MusicIP delivering metadata to
SqueezeCenter. I realize I need to add some tags to these files as part
of the solution. At the moment the files are only tagged with Artist,
Album, Genre, Track#, Title, and Year. My reading indicates another tag
(COMPILATION=1) is needed as well. 

I would like to know if this is possible, and what other tags I need to
set and and also what settings I need to adjust in MusicIP and
SqueezeCenter. If this question has been answered before then all I
need is a pointer to the relevant thread!

thanks
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Re: [slim] Filtering compilation artists from artist browse menu

2008-05-09 Thread JJZolx

In theory all you need to do is set Group compilation albums together
under Settings  Music Library.  Strangely, the wording of this option
makes perfect sense to some people, while to others it seems to have
nothing to do with artists shown in browse lists.


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Re: [slim] Filtering compilation artists from artist browse menu

2008-05-09 Thread radish

Assuming you're happy with the default way of determining a compilation
(any album with  1 individual artist) and you're using one folder per
album, then you don't need to add compilation tags, you're good to go.
Just go and switch on Group compilation albums together and they'll
all move to under Various Artists.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-09 Thread Phil Meyer
I still can't imagine why anyone would want combinations of artists to
appear under Browse Artists but that of course is your choice. :-)
I don't do that for all artists, in fact not frequently at all.  I do it when I 
want to put the full names of artists in the ARTIST tags, but the album is 
known by the combination of the names.

Unleaded by Robert Plant, Jimmy Page looks a bit messy, Unleaded by Page and 
Plant looks better.  I can then click Page and Plant to only show albums by 
Page and Plant, whereas if I clicked Robert Plant, I get any solo and joint 
albums, etc.

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Re: [slim] SqueezeCentre XP SP3

2008-05-09 Thread ncarver

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Re: [slim] Welborne Labs ?

2008-05-09 Thread Mnyb

You got lucky then, it's a lottery.

He conned me for my money over a year ago, and probably some more
people.

All people would not admit when being fooled like this.

Stay away !!

I even got an email where he claims that the supply has shipped without
any shipping references at all, like an AWB number or similar or
freighting company go figure ;-)

After that no response to any email...


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Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Skin

2008-05-09 Thread bklaas


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369

Question: Do you have a 770?

- Got it
- Want it
- Need it
- Forget it


TechHome;299778 Wrote: 
 Thanks for your quick response, unfortunately I don't possess sw
 development skills but can support with testingkeeping fingers
 crossed

You must have been crossing them pretty hard, because community member
Joerg Schwieder came to the rescue with a silver bullet suggestion.

I've added a javascript onClick handler to the submit buttons in the
Nokia770 skin to force the form submit (and clear) buttons. This works
like a charm, and has been tested successfully on both the 770 and the
N800 (where it was never broken, and still isn't).

When can you get the fix? Some now, some soon:

SC 7.0 Trunk change 19608 has all the Nokia770-skin specific fixes
(Radio direct Tune-In Form + Local Search).

Submit buttons for skin-inspecific resources, which include Music
Services Search (Rhapsody, Pandora, Slacker, etc.) and submitting
Player/Server settings-- this will have to be a 7.1 fix, as it imposes
some risk on other webUIs. I will need to do some testing and hopefully
have these elements fixed in 7.1 within the next week.

cheers,
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[slim] Controller update-bug

2008-05-09 Thread Rar

Everytime I turn my remote on it asks if I wan't to update the software
to version 7.0.1. r2409 - it says copyting update for 10 seconds,
then restarts and asks once again if I wan't to update to the same
version - again. An endless circle


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Receiver and Controller now shipping!

2008-05-09 Thread mvalera

JJZolx;300545 Wrote: 
 From what I've gathered, using the Receiver without the Controller is
 not officially supported.  I would assume they're beig sold as added
 players for installations that already have a Controller or for
 advanced users willing to use third-party software needed for setting
 up the Receiver without a Controller.

Correct, we will only support users with Squeezebox Controllers at this
point. Use of the in dev setup plugin will not be officialy supported.

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