Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
Working fine today. I guess Rhapsody fixed whatever temporary glitches bugged it. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Boom + Duet = Slacker problem?
My Boom has been so impressive for the past month that I bought a Duet, which arrived today. Set it up without problem, connected to SN, fired up a Slacker favorite station, and enjoyed music. A song came on that I wanted to skip, so I hit on the SBC. The song kept playing. Hmmm. Hit , selected "Ban Song", and a popup appeared saying "This song will no longer play," but the song kept playing. Hmmm. Went to the Slacker web player and found that the song had been added to the Ban list. I shut down the SBR and SBC, fired up my Boom, played a Slacker station, tried to skip by hitting as usual. The song kept playing. Hit the wheel, selected "Ban Song", and was informed that the song will no longer play -- but the song kept playing. Fiddling around, I hit and got the response that I used to get by hitting -- the current song stopped, a new one started, and my remaining skip count was decremented by one. I fired up the Duet again and tried the trick on the SBC -- no dice; the song kept playing. I tested Pandora's skip behavior -- everything works exactly as expected where the button on the applicable device (SBC or Boom) skips the current song. So now as far as Slacker goes, my Boom doesn't work like it used to, and I have no way to skip or ban a song via the SBC. What am I missing? Boom firmware 41, SBC @ 7.3 r3476, SBR @ 56. No SC installed -- I'm a Squeezenetwork-only user. Thanks in advance for any and all help! -- tdnuerf tdnuerf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22385 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57417 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remembering multiple music sources
I am connected to my office network at home via a wireless router. SqueezeCenter 7.3 is running on two servers, one on the office network (I'll call remote) and one behind the router at home (local). I have a Squeezebox 3 behind the router as well. The Squeezebox can connect to both SqueezeCenters but neither shows in the other's Music Source list. If I am connected to the remote SqueezeCenter and go back into Squeezebox Setup I can connect to either source by browsing. However, once I connect to the local SC, the remote one no longer appears as a music source and I have to enter the IP manually to reconnect. Is there a way to save music sources or enter them as favorites? Thanks. P.S. Before posting, I searched for a similar thread to this one. -- downtime downtime's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??
If you would like a better/easier method to enter Wifi passwords then vote for this bug on Bugzilla: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10052 -- bgriffis bgriffis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] where are playlists saved
Make sure that the playlist dir is writable by the squeezecenter user. If it's not, I think the playlist is only saved in the database and will be lost anytime you do a rescan. -- Fletch Fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57404 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] where are playlists saved
thankyou, but mine aren't saving to there. only my old radiohead playlist is in that directory. -- wilgartw wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57404 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] where are playlists saved
If you go to settings and look at the basic settings tab (first one) it shows what directory your playlists are saved to. -- ChrisNY ChrisNY's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57404 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] where are playlists saved
tonight i spent some time creating a playlist on my duet controller, and saved it called "nye party" i upgraded to 7.3.1 to get "party mode" my playlist has disappeared, i've checked the location on my linux box, and an older playlist is there "radiohead.m3u". I created a new playlist and saved it as "". I can see this on my controller, and through the squeezecenter webpage, but it is not in my playlists folder. if i do a "find / -name **" it finds nothing. if i do a "find / -name *3u" it finds my old radiohead playlist and nothing else. i am running ubuntu where are the playlists saved? -- wilgartw wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57404 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sync problem with SC 7.3.1 and 2 SB3s
Other than maybe some minimal polling so the server knows it's alive, I don't think the Roku box uses any bandwidth when it's not streaming a movie. Since I unplugged the Ethernet cable for the Roku unit yesterday and then plugged it back in, I haven't had any more problems with Sync. But I haven't used the Roku unit for streaming either. Will let you know if this problem continues to occur. Thanks for your help, Ben. -- corbey corbey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just a thought
radish;377459 Wrote: > The Developers sub-forum has a chat room, but as far as I know the > others don't. Could probably be setup if there was demand though! > > You can see a list of moderators & admins if you scroll to the bottom > of the main page and select "View Forum Leaders". If you have an issue > with a specific post (e.g. spam) please use the Report button. Is there a report button ? i cant see it ? i report spam trough the contact us mail ? Edit : found it, so *thats* the well known international sign for report post :) -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just a thought
The Developers sub-forum has a chat room, but as far as I know the others don't. Could probably be setup if there was demand though! You can see a list of moderators & admins if you scroll to the bottom of the main page and select "View Forum Leaders". If you have an issue with a specific post (e.g. spam) please use the Report button. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech support
Just a question, but how long should one expect to wait before getting a response on a support ticket? I know this is a user forum, but I'm hoping for an answer - only because I'm not getting one from the ticketing system. Thanks -- damodamodamo damodamodamo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57401 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
I'm guessing you guys have more troubles than I do because my troubles are too minor to bother posting a thread about: having to hit play a few times sometimes before it will start, plus the occasional stream error. I wonder what causes some people to have more trouble than others? I have very SOLID internet (high QoS) so maybe that's why I have few problems? Other than these minor issues, I honestly think Rhapsody/Squeezebox is the holy grail of music, so I sure hope things work out for them. -- lanierb lanierb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5566 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Party Mode?
wilgartw;377418 Wrote: > has anything happened on this, i could really do with it for tomorrow. It has been added as a beta (not finalized) feature in 7.3+. Described here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/PlaylistModePartyMode -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Hi Pippin, I'm experimenting with my tags (in a little sample-database) trying to find a simple way to be able to search (and perhaps browse) artist (main artist/lead performer) and musicians (band members) separately. Right now I have tagged the main artist in "ARTIST" and musicians in "BAND" (FLAC files). Browsing artists in SC and Transporter ONLY list main artists (ARTIST) - and albums issued by the main artist. And when searching in SC I can find those albums where a certain musician (BAND) is performing (i can not browse musician though). Browsing artists in iPeng shows a different result though. The artist browse in iPeng list main artists (ARTIST) AND musicians (BAND). This way I can not easily see the role (main artist or musician). Well, I know this thread is not for discussing tagging (and this way of tagging might not be correct, or the best way to achieve what I want), but is it intended/correct that browsing artists in iPeng is not the same as browsing artists in SC/Trandporter? PS: Band/Orchestra is NOT set to be included ind the artist list in SC. Also I realize that what I try to achieve migt be more easy when iPeng will suppport Custom Browse -- jazztime jazztime's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] scan complete but not stopping!?
It is reproducable. Also after a complete rescan. The strange part is that I have a 7.3.1 Squeezecenter installation on an Win XP PC, using the same Itunes library - and on this installation it works perfect without any problems! -- mfrost mfrost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22443 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53833 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;375183 Wrote: > This is a known issue. It will be fixed in 1.1 or 1.2. Has to do with > the fact that iPeng tries to scroll in both directions. > Thats good news, as I am finding the same issue with 2 duets and a boom :) Regards -- local.bin local.bin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A little thank you...
What Kaizen28 said! -- thurstongarden Thurston Garden SB2 - Duet Controller - NAD 3020e - Mission 773's thurstongarden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20903 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57290 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Just a thought
Hello everybody! I was just wondering-relating to the forum; for example, after a problem is solved, the OP adds [*solved*] into the thread. This would help searching for solutions for new users. Than maybe an IRC channel would be good too? And by the way, are here any "official" Admins/Mods? As the title says, just a thought. Happy 2009! Regards, coffeetime -- coffeetime Yellow Dog Linux-PS3 / PCLinuxOS / Ubuntu Netbook Remix / Mandriva /Sabayon Tired after a hard day? Visit 'SomaFM' (http://somafm.com/)/'Sofaspace' (http://www.sofaspace.ch/) coffeetime's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Party Mode?
has anything happened on this, i could really do with it for tomorrow. -- wilgartw wilgartw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?
This TVIX looks interesting: http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/video/tvixM6500A.asp -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40689 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound Effects - Gotta ask why and for what?
Heh, send me a royalty-free sound that loops cleanly and maybe we can add it. :) -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
So I used the app every day for a full month, I think it's time I step in with some feature requests (no particular order). 1. I really lack a way to display the album cover larger before actually playing the album. Is click and hold the cover art taken? 2. Artist biography look-up from Allmusic Guide. Maybe even available from the Now Playing screen 3. Option to Sort album on year in artist view 4. I find it hard to tell if the power icon is on or off (the same goes for repeat and shuffle but I never use them) 5. I would like to "find more by this artist", i.e. the artist playing now. The result should look just like an ordinary search. 6. In album and new music view I would like the option to switch artist name and album title, i.e. have the artist name large/bold and the album title smaller. 7. Option to trim the end of an album title rather than the middle. I was trilled to read that there is a plan for CustomBrowse implementation in the future and some of the thing can be taken care of that way. -- Anders -- markstrom markstrom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound Effects - Gotta ask why and for what?
Why no nails down blackboard, Vulcan afterburner or concrete paving slab cutting relaxation sounds? -- badbob badbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?
I bought a Popcorn Hour A110 which I just point to my NAS - after a few months, it's played pretty much everything that I've thrown at it ISO, MKV, AVI and etc. I'm really impressed with it, though I only use a fraction of its functionality. Don't expect fancy menus, unless you use one of the jukebox skins (http://www.networkedmediatank.com/). The key selling point for me was that it wasn't another PC cluttering up a room and consuming unnecessary power. You can put a hard drive in it if you want, I haven't bothered. I would recommend you keep track of your ripped media with a sensible naming scheme that reflects resolution and fps, though. And don't use it for music playback, but why would you, with a Squeezebox :-) -- nicktf nicktf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=329 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40689 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
davidjames;377343 Wrote: > > I ran into the same issue using the iPeng plug-in, before I found out > about the ability to pin the volume. Since the control on my iTouch > was so flaky, I was concerned I would accidentally push the volume to > 100 and blow my speakers. Now wait a moment, that's a different issue and it only applies to the iPeng plugin before version 0.5. However, it's actually ONE of the reasons for the problems in 1.0.4. asymtot, you say it can't be the iPod because the iPod's iPod application (this naming convention is confusing...) doesn't show this problem. Well... that's not completely true. iPhone OS does have a standard control called UISlider that displays a nice slider which iPeng uses. It behaves completely different from the one iPod uses. I'm pretty sure Apple's iPod application uses something else. One of the diferences in behavior is, that UISlider will immediately move to any position on the slider bar where you touch it. Just like iPeng pre-0.5. In the beta test it came out that this is not acceptable and actually most iPhone apps don't behave like this. So iPeng captures only an area around the "knob" and you have to drag that one. It's not just the knob itself, it's a much bigger area but it captures there. Step in issue #2: The sensitivity of the iPhone screen close to the borders is limited, you can see this with other apps and other controls as well. This seems to be a software issue, actually, the problem seems to be that the screen is actually MORE sensitive close to the edges and the software compensates for that. This means, some touches close to the border are sometimes simply ignored, if iPhone decides they are accidental. Now step in iPeng: Due to it's layout, on iPeng the volume slider is actually CLOSER to the edge of the screen than with most other apps. The result is what you see. In my experience it helps to make sure you don't touch the screen with the fingers of the hand that holds the device (even outside the visible area) and especially not to rest a finger at the bottom of the device. I'm looking for solutions, but since "increase capture area" and "move up detection chain to improve sensitivity" are pretty much through, my current favorite is to swap the volume slider with the "Power/Skip/Play" buttons, those are bigger and a missed hit may not hurt as much. Opinions? -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom Restart with SuperDateTime?
Peter, I just noticed that your repository (using SC 7.3.1) shows version 7a26...does this include the fix you placed in the 7a20 version you referred to? Edit: NM - I should refresh and read newer posts before I reply to myself! Thanks, Andrew -- androidtopp My SB3 is the most expensive part of my stereo. So I'm not going to brag about it. And my SBB as well...Is it wrong that my alarm clock is worth more than most of my stereo components? I need to work on that. http://www.last.fm/user/androidtopp androidtopp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19681 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;377063 Wrote: > Regarding the "Volume soft keys", are you talking about the up/down > arrows on the NowPlaying plugins page (right swipe)? Those were done > for a special application, you access the regular volume slider as in > the iPod application: by tapping the cover art on NowPlaying Thanks, I was looking at the NowPlaying page with the up/down arrows. I'll check out 1.0.4 and look forward to NowPlaying plugin update. -- ericinmn999 ericinmn999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom Restart with SuperDateTime?
androidtopp;377360 Wrote: > > Whew - sorry for the long delay, and thanks for all your help! I will > give this a shot tonight and see what happens. > Great. FYI, the latest production release of SaverSwitcher now has the stack-trimming logic, so you don't need to use my testing version/repo. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Working around bugs in native ogg streaming?
bpa;376953 Wrote: > As I understand it, not so much a bug as some encoding of OGG streams > result in a requirement for large decoding table which the SB does not > have enough memory so native decoding is needed as PC has the memory. > > However I think the thread title is misleading as the user is using an > SC unsupported combination of Flac/OGG/Icecast. I think the spec sheet > just support OGG/Vorbis not Ogg/Flac. > > The title should be " Working around unsupported combinations of ogg > streaming" I bent the intend of the original thread, since I was originally interested in getting ogg/Vorbis running (which was easily done by the first answer) and then, I wanted to extend that to ogg/flac. The reason is that with an in-home streaming solution I have plenty of bandwidth for ogg/flac using SB3 boxes as the end-points but it is not strictly necessary as ogg/Vorbis Q=10 has very few audible artifacts. Best regards, --dsdreamer -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57228 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom Restart with SuperDateTime?
Peter, Whew - sorry for the long delay, and thanks for all your help! I will give this a shot tonight and see what happens. Thanks, Andrew -- androidtopp My SB3 is the most expensive part of my stereo. So I'm not going to brag about it. And my SBB as well...Is it wrong that my alarm clock is worth more than most of my stereo components? I need to work on that. http://www.last.fm/user/androidtopp androidtopp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19681 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55915 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox not working on ethernet, works on wireless
I had a problem like this - could not detect DHCP with a homeplug and wouldn't work on a fixed IP either using a DG834 router. In the end fixed by adding an ethernet switch (Netgear FS605) between the SB and the homeplug and then worked like a charm ever since. Might help Andy -- Andyb01 Wired squeezebox, WinXP SP2, SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 - 19705, Player Firmware Version: 88 on Vista Ultimte 32 bit. Andyb01's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55582 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
Let's not forget that on the foundation (legacy) laid down by these "old suits" is where all these new digital SlimYahGoo (pun intended) is built on. As said above, having Cisco join the party is a good thing. Smart Cisco boxes for home entertainment derived from enterprise strength Cisco boxes (routers... etc) that properly prioritize and distribute the entertainment pockets is a very, very good thing. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound Effects - Gotta ask why and for what?
Sounds & Effects are downloaded only once and looped within the player. You won't waste bandwidth with them. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound Effects - Gotta ask why and for what?
My wife and I have, for years, played nature sounds on our alarm clock to go to sleep. I am hoping to do the same with the Boom. My problem is that I am bandwidth limited (i.e. if I exceed 200MB/day I get throttled back to intollerable speeds - no options on this point). Rather than 'waste' my daily ration on nature sounds, is there a way to play loop audio on my local machine, through squeezecenter? -- lapusey lapusey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20716 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
asymtot;377218 Wrote: > I have noticed that the volume slider on my iPod touch is not very > responsive with iPeng. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries before the > slider "latches" onto my finger. Once it latches, it works fine. I > can slide the volume very smoothly back and forth. But once I let go, > it will take several attempts to get it to recognize my finger again. > > I think this is related to iPeng not the ipod since it work perfectly > when I use the ipod's native music player application. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > thanksI have the same issue but fortunately, it's not an issue as I pin the volume at 100% in SqueezeCenter and use the remote on my amp to control the volume. I ran into the same issue using the iPeng plug-in, before I found out about the ability to pin the volume. Since the control on my iTouch was so flaky, I was concerned I would accidentally push the volume to 100 and blow my speakers. -- davidjames Discuss Quality Audio/Home Theater on a budget: http://www.budgetavtalk.com Blogging Soccer/Audio/Home Theater: http://blogs.netlowdown.com davidjames's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19208 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
asymtot;377218 Wrote: > I have noticed that the volume slider on my iPod touch is not very > responsive with iPeng. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries before the > slider "latches" onto my finger. Once it latches, it works fine. I > can slide the volume very smoothly back and forth. But once I let go, > it will take several attempts to get it to recognize my finger again. > > I think this is related to iPeng not the ipod since it work perfectly > when I use the ipod's native music player application. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > thanks Yes. Same here -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
CatBus wrote: > bgriffis;377323 Wrote: >> Everything I've read indicates that current hardware will be firmware >> upgradeable to be compliant with the final 802.11n spec > > Everything I've read says this too. But the spec is being written by > those who stand to profit more if the final spec is NOT firmware > upgradable from existing products (because they can sell us another > one!). Consumer electronics has a long, ugly history of completely > unneccessary incompatibilities being foisted on consumers to shore up > profit margins. 802.11n may be an exception, maybe not. As the great philosopher Yogi Berra said, It aint' over 'til its over. There are folks arguing, with good cause, that 11n should more strongly deprecate the 2.4gHz band, keep it only for legacy interaction. This would be a good thing, IMHO, but its contentious. The important point today is that since its not final, there are not tons of small, power efficient, inexpensive chips to handle it. Its not mass market ready -- today its for early adopters. The only fact here is that SlimDevices/Logitech never comments on future products. My prediction, and I'm a user/customer, not an insider, is that there will be nothing about 11n until Mouser and DigiKey have lots of commercially ready products, in stock. All the discussion on the forums of the world isn't going to change that. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
bgriffis;377323 Wrote: > Everything I've read indicates that current hardware will be firmware > upgradeable to be compliant with the final 802.11n spec Everything I've read says this too. But the spec is being written by those who stand to profit more if the final spec is NOT firmware upgradable from existing products (because they can sell us another one!). Consumer electronics has a long, ugly history of completely unneccessary incompatibilities being foisted on consumers to shore up profit margins. 802.11n may be an exception, maybe not. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57042 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
Thanks for all your replies. There were some other good reasons given for why 802.11n (or "Draft N" currently) should be added to devices. Summary of Benefits * 5 GHz operation avoids interference from microwaves, phones, etc. * Gives ability for people to use "Greenfield" mode for increased throughput (i.e. all N network) * Increased range from MIMO technology * Better throughput for people using their SB as a wireless bridge Recommendation * In order to keep costs down while still offering these benefits to those who want/need it, the best scenario would be if Logitech offered a replacement mini-PCI Wifi to support 802.11n. I'm sure they could sell this device at a nice profit and everyone would be happy. Side note * Some people seem to be against using this technology because "it's not a finished spec." Everything I've read indicates that current hardware will be firmware upgradeable to be compliant with the final 802.11n spec. Note that although the spec is not yet ratified, there are still quality controls in place. The Wifi Alliance does interoperability testing and has a "Draft N" certification process. The "Draft N" equipment has been available for quite some time and seems to have matured quite a bit. I too was wary of this certification early on, but now that I see how long the 802.11n spec is dragging on I think it was a smart move by the Wifi Alliance in creating this intermediate certification. I'm sure lots of great inputs have made their way into the final spec as a result of all the real-world usage that has resulted. Also, people who need the range/throughput of 802.11n have gotten access to it years sooner. -- bgriffis bgriffis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57042 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
As a consumer who spends a good portion of his time working with my home audio/video streaming, I say the more the merrier. The greater the variety the better the chance we'll overcome DRM restrictions and iTunes style lock-in. That's why I was heartened by iLuv offering an Internet streaming radio for ~140$ recently. Streaming digital entertainment is still in enough of an infancy that everyone joining really helps. Regardless of how lame Cisco's entry will likely be. :P -- sander sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music library won't play
I finally figured out what was causing my music library from playing. I had to completely disable the Windows firewall. That allowed the music library to play through the squeezebox. Hope this is helpful for anyone else who is experiencing this issue. Thanks! -- CRaZY_A CRaZY_A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17185 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
Siduhe;377294 Wrote: > In SqueezeCenter go to Settings -> Player -> audio -> MP3 Streaming > Method and chang to Proxied Streaming for each player - then resync. > Any improvement? Thanks, but I changed them all to proxied a few weeks ago, and it hasn't helped. I just rechecked the settings, and they're still on Proxied Streaming. It's my understanding that SC uses proxied streaming by default when syncing anyway. -- rickbray rickbray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
In SqueezeCenter go to Settings -> Player -> audio -> MP3 Streaming Method and chang to Proxied Streaming for each player - then resync. Any improvement? -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
...when syncing a few SB Receivers and Rhapsody. I'm willing to change my settings, operating system, hardware, anything. I'm using Windows XP now. Is there a magic configuration for XP and Squeezecenter that works when syncing? It's not just Rhapsody... Pandora and Slacking stop too when syncing. -- rickbray rickbray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Incorrect time displayed in standby (SC 7.3)
Yesterday I noticed that this does not happen if the server is woken up locally (ie. pressing the power button on the server), as opposed to via magic packet from the SB. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
>“Today your content is very tightly tied to a device,” Mr. Hooper said. “Your music is tied to your iPod< LOL. So not much sign the Cisco 'suits' get it...I reckon they'll need to acquire someone with a track record. Sonos? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there an alternative to MP3Tunes?
Thanks for your answers. Siduhe, I am in the US. I might give Rhapsody a try but for now my goal is my own CD collection, which is quite huge. In the meantime, I will hope that Logitech can offer an alternative to MP3Tunes. -- botski botski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57344 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Various Radio Stations Now Not Working
kesa;373579 Wrote: > I am having a problem where some radio stations that have previously > worked perfectly have suddenly stopped when connecting via Squeeze > Centre whether browsing from my favourites folder or by browsing to the > internet radio Tab and selecting from there > They do however work when connecting via Squeeze Network. > I have also noted that when I browse to say the Jazz directory in > Deezer (via Squeeze Network) there are no folders appearing under the > directories. > In addition when playing tracks from Deezer via Squeeze Network after a > couple of tracks the music stops at this time the elapsed time on the RC > displays -59:?? or similar, I have to stop and restart by pressing the > pause button on the RC . Seems pretty damn messed up! > > I am running Version 7.3 on a HP Media Smart Server running Windows > Home Server > > I did note that there had been a Windows up date yesterday. > > I wonder if anyone else is suffering the same problems and if so knows > of any solution. > > Keeping my fingers crossed! I thought I would post an update. Things are now pretty well back to normal after release 7.3.1 I still have problems with Alien BBC but I think I can sort that by reading the WIKI or posts. kesa -- kesa Linn Ikemi (now Squeezebox Duet plus Beresford DAC), Linn Wakonda, 3xLinn LK 140, Pair Linn Keilidh (Active) kesa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16614 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56854 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Incorrect time displayed in standby (SC 7.3)
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56226 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10325 -- autopilot *Lounge :* Squeezebox Classic -> Cambridge Audio Azur 640a -> Mission 701's. *Bedroom :* Squeezebox Receiver -> Trends TA10.1 Class-T -> Kef Cresta 1's *Office :* Softsqueeze -> Logitech Active 5.1's. *Kitchen :* Squeezebox Boom -coming soon- *Roaming : * Squeezebox Controller -> Logitech mm28 portable speakers / Shure E2c's *Controllers :* Squeezebox Controller x 2 + Logitech Harmony one *Server :* SC7.3.1 (Vista 64) + AlienBBC, iPlayer & MusicIP headless. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Incorrect time displayed in standby (SC 7.3)
Good to know I am not alone Does anybody have any suggestions ?. It doesn't seem to be OS dependant and I have upgraded to 7.3.1 (from 7.3 ) but no change. All was fine with 7.2 -- westiebj westiebj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3145 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
It appears that Cisco System will be announcing several products targeting the home digital entertainment at CES including a wireless digital stereo system. Article in yesterday's NY Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/29/technology/29cisco.html (Note: If you get an add just click skip in the upper right to bypass it and go straight to the article) -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
Howard Passman;377237 Wrote: > Don't be so quick to dismiis it simply because you're lucky. Andy G of > Logitech doesn't think it's a minor issue and neither do us folks who > pay for the service but can't get it. If it works for you great, but > don't dismiss the less fortunate. Someday you may be in a similar > situation and want backing. > > Howard Trust me - I'm not dismissing it. I have my share of issues with Rhapsody on my Squeezeboxes. I'm just saying that Slim/Logitech sell (tens of) thousands of Squeezeboxes in the States alone - yet there's only a handful of Rhapsody subscribers reporting issues here on the forums??? Do the math. That's all I'm saying. -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
EnochLight;377232 Wrote: > > Logitech & Slim would have thrown in the towel on the Squeezebox line > years ago! > > Don't be so quick to dismiis it simply because you're lucky. Andy G of Logitech doesn't think it's a minor issue and neither do us folks who pay for the service but can't get it. If it works for you great, but don't dismiss the less fortunate. Someday you may be in a similar situation and want backing. Howard -- Howard Passman .and still waiting for extra cradles.. ...and waiting... ...and waiting... Howard Passman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16674 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
Dr Dirt;376937 Wrote: > I'm not asking for a credit since the free trial period taught me > everything I need to know about Rhapsody: > > The various "problems", "issues", and "bugs" widely reported add up to > this simple result--Rhapsody does not work well enough on the Logitech > Squeezebox to provide any music enjoyment whatsoever. Oh please - just stop. Just because you have an issue doesn't mean everyone else will. I've been using Rhapsody on my Squeezeboxes since day 1 of the official support. Yeah it's hit & miss sometimes but totally worth the investment. The fact of the matter is there are tens of thousands of satisfied customers compared to the dozen or so that have issues here in these threads. Do you honestly think that the <100 people that continually post here in the forums are the only owners of Squeezeboxes? Logitech & Slim would have thrown in the towel on the Squeezebox line years ago! To potential subscribers: give it a shot. You get 30 days free anyway. I've had my share of issues but the benefits far outway the occasional problems. -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] scan complete but not stopping!?
actually, i must admit that i haven't seen this effect in a while. the only thing (i believe) i did was to clear out the DB and do a complete rescan (due a different bug). wierd... is it reproduceable on your system or only sporadic? (like on mine) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53833 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] scan complete but not stopping!?
I am seeing the exact same problem on version 7.3.1 on a QNAP 209. The "Database Cleanup #2" will never end. Version: 7.3.1 - 24372 @ Fri Dec 19 17:30:38 PST 2008 Hostname: FROSTNAS3 Server IP-adress: 192.168.1.39 Server HTTP Port Number: 9001 Operating system: Linux - DA - iso-8859-1 Platform architecture: armv5tejl-linux Perl Version: 5.8.8 - armv5tejl-linux-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.27 Total Players Recognized: 1 -- mfrost mfrost's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22443 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53833 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
pippin;377034 Wrote: > Yes, you can run as many iPengs with a server as you like... well... > depends on the server's capacity, but typically you will not let all of > them sync their caches simultaneously, wouldn't you? > > And if your iPods are configured for the same iTunes account, you'll > only have to buy iPeng once. Great news! thanks -- asymtot asymtot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22368 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
I have noticed that the volume slider on my iPod touch is not very responsive with iPeng. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries before the slider "latches" onto my finger. Once it latches, it works fine. I can slide the volume very smoothly back and forth. But once I let go, it will take several attempts to get it to recognize my finger again. I think this is related to iPeng not the ipod since it work perfectly when I use the ipod's native music player application. Has anyone else experienced this? thanks -- asymtot asymtot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22368 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
damager;377158 Wrote: > You really should try again once the current issues are ironed out. > Rhapsody, when working, is much easier and cheaper than buying > cataloging, storing, and backing up your own music collection. I most certainly will and if Sirius/XM keep putting DJ's on my favorite stations, I know how I'll pay for it. :-) Howard -- Howard Passman .and still waiting for extra cradles.. ...and waiting... ...and waiting... Howard Passman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16674 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....
mortslim;377157 Wrote: > I don't think its fair to ask for a whole month credit just because you > have to push the play button a few exrra times while the engineers work > out the bugs. > > The record companies are short sighted in their greedy royalty demands > which are pushing internet radio companies to the edge. > > Don't do the same thing. > > The squeezebox itself continues to have its share of growing pains. > You put up with that. Certainly you can give Rhapsody some slack as it > fine-tunes its service. > > There is no other company that offers on-demand music for artists, > tracks and albums. Do you want to kill the goose that is laying the > golden eggs??? I respectfully disagree on this point. I had Rhapsody for 4 months and it rarely worked properly. You must admit if your mail, newspaper, cable tv, internet (oh wait, that's not a good example), car, refrigerator if they performed like Rhapsody, you'd want a refund or credit. It's not just a matter of pressing play ocassionally. I'd love to see it work because I liked it. If they get it working I will sign back up. I'd also be more patient if they would fess up and quit telling us and the folks at Logitech that they were pushing out a fix "tomorrow". Howard -- Howard Passman .and still waiting for extra cradles.. Howard Passman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16674 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay download
Cheers for the info. The OS is Vista Ultimate on the laptop and WHS (or Windows Server 2003) on my well WHS ;-) Neither reported an update was available for SoftSqueeze and I don't even have SoftSqueeze installed on the WHS :-? I'll try your suggestions and post back :-) -- HydeTheDarkerSide HydeTheDarkerSide's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57018 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question on system setups (vs. Popcorn Hour)
korinengell;377092 Wrote: > Haha yeah I'm busy going through the 25 pages in that thread! It starts > getting pretty technical pretty quickly. Maybe I'll learn something :) > > Cheers for the help funkstar, not to mention selling me on the > Squeezebox Duet! It might be worth looking about for some other threads as well, there might even be one discussing VLC specifically. perhaps :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57349 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze Sync Issues
I meant to say also: - I used to have the older version of SoftSqueeze, but I upgraded to the latest (SoftSqueeze 3.7), and it made no difference. - songs tend to get further out of sync after each song in the playlist. Anyone have any ideas? Currently a frustrating experience :). -- dundon00 dundon00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
