Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
aubuti wrote: peter;413467 Wrote: conorm1 wrote: http://www.connectedacoustic.com/product.php?xProd=2xSec=2 Cool, what is this? Did someone put a SBR and an AMP in one box or is this a whole new squeeze client device? The former. There was a little discussion of it last November in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54571 Cool device. If I didn't already have more SB's than rooms I'd get one. I think it's a big mistake that SD doesn't offer a similar package. Have an amp built in solves a lot of problems. Less wiring, no hassle trying to get the amp top switch on/off with the SB. Integrated volume control... I know there are solutions for all these problems. I tried most of them. I have powered studio monitors switched with the ampswitch plugin in the living room. I have T-amp's in the office and bedrooms permanently on. But this is a much cleaner solution. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB1 syncing tips?
What is the list of third-party plugins you are running? Please try disabling them all and, if that fixes thing, enabling them one by one. There are/have been a number of third-party plugins that listen for track-start events and then do -clever- stuff. If this takes more than about 50ms then it risks interfering with the synchronized start logic. This will especially hit SB1s (and SliMP3s) - see my previous explanation. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62152 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Verizon FIOS remote to control squeezebox
kevin0964;413375 Wrote: I have a SB3. I am trying to get my Verizon FIOS TV controller to control the SB. I programmed the remote to a JVC DVD code and it works fine when I use the power key and the arrows. However, the number keys map to the set top box and not to the SB - so I can't use the number (alpha keys) to skip through the artist lists. Given that I have around 900 artists, this is an issue. Has anyone else had this problem or better yet, found a solution for it? Does the FIOS remote have a learn function? You could try having it learn a single SB3 number then see if that affects the STB. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Buried Treasure
Oh - cool! I'd lived in France in the 70's and it was literally -months- to get a phone line installed. Friends in the Azores tell me it's still that way there. So I figured you were up against the same kind of delay in Cyprus. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Buried Treasure
No. It's the wretched paperwork. We had to collect a mountain of documents and signature to transfer a long existing telephone line from my deceased mother in law tomy wife who now owns the house. We have done that in two weeks. It will be another two to establish a broadband installation, but by then it will nearly be time for us to return to England for the summer. When we come back to Cyprus in the autumn, we can install the broadband. I will be paying twice the price for half the speed I have in UK. Annoying. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s Speakers Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
b33k34;411852 Wrote: Genius integration please. I would not mind having Genius integration in SC, but I think MusicIP creates better mixes. I believe Genius mixes are somehow tied to ratings and do no create mixes with obscured tracks that exist in my library. In other words, when I listen to Genius generated mixes the results do not surprise me. Genius mixes appear (to me) to be predictable and the songs selected too familiar. MusicIP generated mixes can be tuned to the sound-signature of the seed songs. I also feel that the granularity of the settings of MusicIP allow for a wider range of variety and can be adjusted to generate unpredictable mixes based on the seed track mood and can be restricted/unrestricted to specific genre/genres. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
sander;411762 Wrote: To be honest though, Squeezecenter 7.3.2 is good enough for me that if MusicIP integration became an issue I just wouldn't upgrade any more. I can live within the limitations and minor irritations of the current system for a long time, and MusicIp has become that important to me. This news of Wendell and MusicIP definitely saddens me, and I just wanted to DEEPLY second the sentiment of the above paragraph. MusicIP is the #1 way that me and my family interact with our Squeezeboxen. We have a very large library with everything from hip-hop to classical and a lot of Frank Zappa, and it makes fantastic mixes for us. And of course its filtering functions keep the Zappa out of my wife's mixes and the George Michael out of mine. If an update broke MusicIP compatibility, I would not install that update. So yes, MusicIP, please keep your product going, and Logitech, please keep it deeply integrated with SqueezeCenter. I love the idea of Logitech taking on MusicIP development, too! -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] squeezebox fan, or unrelated reference?
Saw this driving to work the other day... [image: http://www.truedesign.org/images/sqzbx.license.jpg] -- jsharper jsharper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
thing-fish;413780 Wrote: This news of Wendell and MusicIP definitely saddens me, and I just wanted to DEEPLY second the sentiment of the above paragraph. MusicIP is the #1 way that me and my family interact with our Squeezeboxen. We have a very large library with everything from hip-hop to classical and a lot of Frank Zappa, and it makes fantastic mixes for us. And of course its filtering functions keep the Zappa out of my wife's mixes and the George Michael out of mine. If an update broke MusicIP compatibility, I would not install that update. So yes, MusicIP, please keep your product going, and Logitech, please keep it deeply integrated with SqueezeCenter. I love the idea of Logitech taking on MusicIP development, too! I have never installed this but it was on my to-do list, seems a shame that development has ended. Genius seems to have taken off from an iTunes perspective so MusicIP integration would be a string in the Logitech bow if it was taken on -- socistep socistep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox fan, or unrelated reference?
jsharper;413790 Wrote: Saw this driving to work the other day... [image: http://www.truedesign.org/images/sqzbx.license.jpg] He/she may play the accordion. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
Not to forget that Genius doesnt make real neutral mixes but internally prefers what Apple want us to hear in the mixes. The SoundCheck numbers also already contain a secret code hinting at that. Maybe thats one of the reasons why MusicIP creates better mixes. -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox fan, or unrelated reference?
Maybe the car is the accordion :-) Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Marketing
I too have wondered why the word has not gotten out yet as to the nature of internet radio and the Squeezebox Boom in particular. I live in New Hampshire and when I was looking for a Squeezebox Boom (I got mine in November 2008) I went to Best Buy, Circuit City, and Radio Shack. Not one person that I talked to new anything about the Boom and they were not even familiar with internet radio! And yet whenever I have visitors at my house they are amazed at the looks, sound and capabilities of the Squeezebox Boom! They are particularly impressed with the fantastic reception (when compared to off the air signal) and with the number of possibilities considering internet radio, music services, etc. I think that if there were such a thing as an area franchise one could make a lot of money! -- waltb waltb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox fan, or unrelated reference?
Teus de Jong;413829 Wrote: Maybe the car is the accordion :-)No, if the car were a Honda Accord, then the -driver- would be an Accordian. -- Dogberry2 Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Finally :-) I'm happy to announce the availability of iPeng 1.1, the second major release of iPeng, your ultimate Squeezebox remote. While the 1.0.x releases were mainly focusing on bug fixes and minor enhancements, iPeng 1.1 will bring some more fundamental changes: iPeng goes SqueezeNetwork Long awaited by those of you who don't operate their own serveAccess SqueezeNetworkr or don't want to run it 24/7, iPeng now also offers access to SqueezeNetwork. Just swipe right on the NowPlaying home screen and you will find it on the MultiPlayer Control along with any servers you might have. There is also a new button for each player that will connect or disconnect that player from SqueezeNetwork. What does SqueezeNetwork offer with iPeng? iPeng will support the full functionality of SqueezeNetwork, that is: Play internet radio, podcasts and music services, manage your favorites, and control your players. You will also be able to set alarms and this brings us to the second big change in iPeng 1.1... Plugin Support iPeng 1.1 offers support for the SqueezePlay menu system which allows it to support a lot of functionality as it would show up on a Squeezebox Controller or a SqueezePlay software player. iPeng 1.1 Main Menu with Plugins This open up iPeng to a lot of internal SqueezeCenter features that were not yet supported: Alarms, Sleep, Browse by Years, Random Mix, TrackInfo Details,... almost everything offered by SqueezeCenter will now be controllable on iPeng. Yet it's not limited to that, because using this interface, iPeng also has access to 3rd party plugins, so now you can define your own library queries using CustomBrowse, browse by statistics using TrackStat, get background information using Biography or Album Review, build custom mixes using MusicIP, it's a whole world... Performance Improvements Oh my, iPeng was such a nice app, now with all these new features it's growing fat and slow... No! It doesn't, the opposite is true. iPeng's internals have been completely re-done and use a faster protocol now but also, thanks to great support from Logitech we have been able to make iPeng cooperate better with recent versions of SqueezeCenter so if you use SC 7.3.2 or newer, iPeng will offer some notable performance improvements: * Much faster loading of large databases. Our benchmark in the beta phase was for remote(!) access to a huge database with 247.000 tracks and 24.000 albums, iPeng was synchronizing this database in under 6 minutes! A small database with 2.000 albums should load well below one minute. Note: This may also depend on your server; iPeng can not make up for slow server performance. iPeng synchronizing album cache * iPeng now supports SqueezeCenter's list sorting. This is not only a speed improvement but it also means that ALBUMSORT and ARTISTSORT tags or custom sort orders will be respected by iPeng. Your database will now show up in iPeng as it would in SqueezeCenter. * New option to keep server connection open. This will allow you to get immediate access to your server once your iPhone comes out of standby without having to establish a server connection first. Note: this will use more power and can eventually drain your battery. Along with these big changes, there's a lot of small improvements that make the iPeng experience more feature rich and streamlined. Just upgrade or get your iPeng now on the App Store and... Have Fun! See some pictures here: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2009/04/08/ipeng-11-is-ready-go-squeezenetwork/ and learn what's new here: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-application/how-to-use-the-ipeng-application/whats-new-in-11/ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Wow, sounds fantastic! I love the idea of Plugin support. I was just about to download it but clicking apps store on my iPod Touch and it tells me my apps are up to date :-C I guess i'll have wait! Cheers CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-25688 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.7 | SQL Playlist 2.4 | Music Information Screen 4.37 | Custom Scan 2.6 | TrackStat 2.8 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Not quite there yet on my app store... Hopefully it shows up pronto:) -- jvandervort -John jvandervort's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
Moonbase;413821 Wrote: I much prefer being sold into something by its quality (like music, hard- or software) than by proprietary and hidden marketing tricks and background affiliations. Amen Bro! I second the above post. (plus I had to add more characters for the post to work) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
...waiting patiently for my son to show up from school so I can steal his touch and upgrade... -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Yes, it's not there on my App Store, too, but the confirmation by Apple is there and I see it in the App Store control panel, so just a matter of time :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Excellent, just upgraded (in the UK) Looks good :) -- nolan nolan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Yep, I can see it now... off to play :-D CW -- Chunkywizard *Squeezebox:* Boom *Squeezecenter:* 7.4-25688 for Windows Home Server (HP EX-475 MediaSmart Server with 2GB RAM upgrade) *Plugins:* Dynamic Playlists 2.7 | SQL Playlist 2.4 | Music Information Screen 4.37 | Custom Scan 2.6 | TrackStat 2.8 *Remote:* iPod Touch Gen. 1 running 'iPeng' (http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2008/11/25/ipeng-application-now-on-app-store/) Chunkywizard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm playlists?
Very interesting, Siduhe - thanks for pointing it out. I've noticed that lfm://playlist/playlist_id also works, which is referenced on the 'Playlist API page' (http://www.last.fm/api/playlists). What I don't understand is why, using the same logic, lfm://playlist/album/album_id does _not_ work - maybe it's just wishful thinking... after all this would be an amazing piece of undocumented functionality if it did! -- simbo *bedroom:* squeezebox boom; *study:* squeezebox 3; *lounge:* softsqueeze; *conservatory/garden:* squeezebox receiver; *anywhere:* squeezebox controller 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Its here in Oz (Australia). Will play with it while I eat my cornflakes. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm playlists?
simbo;413866 Wrote: Very interesting, Siduhe - thanks for pointing it out. I've noticed that lfm://playlist/playlist_id also works, which is referenced on the 'Playlist API page' (http://www.last.fm/api/playlists). What I don't understand is why, using the same logic, lfm://playlist/album/album_id does _not_ work - maybe it's just wishful thinking... after all this would be an amazing piece of undocumented functionality if it did! I wonder if this is because of the licence restrictions on Last.fm - there used to be limits on how many songs you can play by any one artist over a certain time period and these restrictions still apply to the radio functionality. However, I'm not sure how the playlist functionality is licensed - I know someone who will know however, so will ask next time I see him. I'm a massive and long time user of Last.fm, but I do worry about how it is going to step up and meet the Napster/Spotify challenge. What I love about it is the great undiscovered music it's introduced me too, but I also think it needs to develop more of an on-demand streaming aspect to compete long term - hopefully the playlist API is a step in the right direction. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? -Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...- (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Wow what an upgrade not really worthy of just a .1 release this should be version 2.0. Thank you -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
One thing I forgot: If you like iPeng: How about leaving some friendly comments on the App Store? If you don't like it, well, just forget this post ;-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP development... stalled???
thing-fish;413780 Wrote: This news of Wendell and MusicIP definitely saddens me, and I just wanted to DEEPLY second the sentiment of the above paragraph. MusicIP is the #1 way that me and my family interact with our Squeezeboxen. We have a very large library with everything from hip-hop to classical and a lot of Frank Zappa, and it makes fantastic mixes for us. And of course its filtering functions keep the Zappa out of my wife's mixes and the George Michael out of mine. If an update broke MusicIP compatibility, I would not install that update. So yes, MusicIP, please keep your product going, and Logitech, please keep it deeply integrated with SqueezeCenter. I love the idea of Logitech taking on MusicIP development, too! Thirded. MIP has always worked flawlessly for me, and everyone I show it to thinks it's an amazing concept. I do think there's an opportunity here for Logitech to embed it more deeply within SC (making it easier to setup and install). No idea if this fits their long term strategy or is even a possibility, but can only say that I also wouldn't install an update which removed MIP functionality. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? -Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...- (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Tune in URL to run a local program?
Is it feasible to initiate the running of a local program on the SqueezeCenter machine by using the Tune in URL feature? What Im attempting to do is to create a Favorite for each DVB-S radio channel I use by running an executable file of the sort - C:\Program Files\DVBViewer GE\DVBViewer.exe -c:3582 where the c:3582 bit is the Service ID of the particular channel. Any suggestions welcome. -- Skye Skye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tune in URL to run a local program?
Tune in needs an URL. In addition you need to clarify the format of the audio stream and how is it fed into SC. The URL can be standard one such as http - in which case a http request will be sent out on the network interface. The URL can be a fake which is then processed by a protocol handler set up by a Plugin. A relatively simple example is my SharkPlay plugin which takes URLs like shark://98.1 to run a program which tunes teh Griifin RadioSHark to 98.1MHz and then starts a program to route the RadioShark WAV stream into SC. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippin;413886 Wrote: One thing I forgot: If you like iPeng: How about leaving some friendly comments on the App Store? If you don't like it, well, just forget this post ;-) Can I add a comment if I already did on the original version? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Nonreality;413892 Wrote: Can I add a comment if I already did on the original version? Yes. You can at least change it, and they have a new system where ratings are evaluated per release. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox fan, or unrelated reference?
Dogberry2;413846 Wrote: No, if the car were a Honda Accord, then the -driver- would be an Accordian. It would almost be worth owning an Accord just for that license place :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Marketing
waltb;413843 Wrote: I too have wondered why the word has not gotten out yet as to the nature of internet radio and the Squeezebox Boom in particular. I live in New Hampshire and when I was looking for a Squeezebox Boom (I got mine in November 2008) I went to Best Buy, Circuit City, and Radio Shack. Not one person that I talked to new anything about the Boom and they were not even familiar with internet radio! And yet whenever I have visitors at my house they are amazed at the looks, sound and capabilities of the Squeezebox Boom! They are particularly impressed with the fantastic reception (when compared to off the air signal) and with the number of possibilities considering internet radio, music services, etc. I think that if there were such a thing as an area franchise one could make a lot of money! Totally agree and I wish they offered SqueezeBucks for referrals as I know I've sold at least three to friends and demo'd it to dozens more. I think streaming *anything* (music, video, etc...) is still a very niche market. And then just streaming music alone a smaller market still. Internet Radio is well within this small niche. Most are not even aware it exists, many that at least know about it think it's limited to a computer, fewer still can imagine the quite good sound of Internet Radio because they have only ever heard it on crappy computer speakers. How niche is Internet Radio? Well I'm not in the broadcasting biz but the most recent ShoutCast Tune In Report (reported monthly) shows the HIGHEST listened to Internet Radio station as having a total of 3.1 million Tune In's lasting longer than 5 minutes. That's all Tune In's from any/all Internet Radio capable devices, worldwide, for an entire month, including those that logged in 100's of times (same listener). Compare that to how many 100's of millions that reached for their car or home stereo AM/FM tuners in that same month. :) But that's ok, we'll keep it to ourselves and enjoy very decent sound and an incredible selection of stations and genres to choose from with FAR fewer commercials. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
upgraded here at singapore. thanks. -- musicexpression musicexpression's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=28861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippin;413847 Wrote: Finally :-) iPeng 1.1 offers support for the SqueezePlay menu system which allows it to support a lot of functionality as it would show up on a Squeezebox Controller or a SqueezePlay software player. iPeng 1.1 Main Menu with Plugins This open up iPeng to a lot of internal SqueezeCenter features that were not yet supported: Alarms, Sleep, Browse by Years, Random Mix, TrackInfo Details,... almost everything offered by SqueezeCenter will now be controllable on iPeng. OK, its early morning here in Australia and I'm a bit slow. iPeng loads and the splash screen shows 1.1 in the bottom left corner. Extras shows Server Power Control and other extras, Artists Albums etc browse work fine, but how do I get the Squeezeplay menus? -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Wirrunna;413918 Wrote: OK, its early morning here in Australia and I'm a bit slow. iPeng loads and the splash screen shows 1.1 in the bottom left corner. Extras shows Server Power Control and other extras, Artists Albums etc browse work fine, but how do I get the Squeezeplay menus? Server Power Control is one, for example. Everything under Extras and Settings (Except iPeng Settings) is a SqueezePlay menu, Years, TrackInfo and any other plugins you might have are SqueezePlay menus. You may not immediately note them, some differences are sublte, the best indicator is when you see inverted icons in the title bar. Anything on SqueezeNetwork is a SqueezePlay menu, SN doesn't support the traditional queries iPeng uses. Actually the SP menu system is a way to push menus to the SB Controller (and now also iPeng) used by SC and plugins. ipeng still uses the traditional queries for it's own menus since they perform better and have more capability - the big advantage of the SP menus is, that they are more flexible. You can learn more about the differences between iPeng 1.1 and 1.0 here: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-application/how-to-use-the-ipeng-application/whats-new-in-11/ And about the SqueezePlay menus here (Attention: technical stuff!!!): http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeCenterSqueezePlayInterface -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
I have just managed to download the update in the US. I have Biography and Album Review on my server but I cannot see how to access them on ipeng. Can some one advise? -- RalphO RalphO Transporter/Audio Research SP9/Bryston ST4/Magneplanar MG1.6QR RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
RalphO;413923 Wrote: I have just managed to download the update in the US. I have Biography and Album Review on my server but I cannot see how to access them on ipeng. Can some one advise? Through TrackInfo (for a track). Browse to a track and do a Touch-And-Hold on it or select the TrackInfo mode. See also the first link in my last post. It doesn't work from NowPlaying, yet. That will come in 1.2 Edit: And the images in Biography are one of the coolest features in iPeng 1.1 :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Oh, and before I forget about it: iPeng 1.1 has an unofficial feature I'm not going to announce. It may be against Apple's HIG although it has been requested A LOT by iPeng's users. Hint: it's NOT CoverFlow. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippin;413927 Wrote: Oh, and before I forget about it: iPeng 1.1 has an unofficial feature I'm not going to announce. It may be against Apple's HIG although it has been requested A LOT by iPeng's users. Hint: it's NOT CoverFlow. I have found the unofficial feature. It's brilliant. -- RalphO RalphO Transporter/Audio Research SP9/Bryston ST4/Magneplanar MG1.6QR RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
I play an album (queues the entire thing), add three random songs from other albums, then try to remove some of the songs from the album I started with...crash. Oh well:) -- jvandervort -John jvandervort's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
I downloaded 1.1, and then I downloaded the new 2.2.1 ipod touch firmware. Ipeng now dies when I start it. It starts up, then disappears. I have powered off the touch and restarted, same thing Any ideas ? I've used Ipeng since day one, seems odd. Oh by the way I also did a resync with my touch on the Itunes windows app!! Any ideas would be appreciated. Version 1.1 seemed to be working until I did the 2.2.1 upgrade -- nmacfarl nmacfarl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippin;413927 Wrote: Oh, and before I forget about it: iPeng 1.1 has an unofficial feature I'm not going to announce. It may be against Apple's HIG although it has been requested A LOT by iPeng's users. Hint: it's NOT CoverFlow. LLLVE the unofficial feature! (guess I should since I was one of those requesters) Bloody fantastic pippin... Thanks! ...oh and thanks for the chronological artist/album sort as well. Woo hoo! -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Well, I told you it was early in the morning in Oz, but the sun is up and I am now awake. I've created a MusicIP mix and its playing now - I searched and selected an artist, then selected an album from that artist, then listed all songs for the album. Touch and hold a track and a new menu shows up with the track title at the top and a bunch of options including Create MusicIP Mix , tap the and a mix is created with the option to Play this mix. Is there another way ? Also I pressed the iTouch buttons on the left side of the player with amazing results, very clever ! -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB1 syncing tips?
awy;413687 Wrote: What is the list of third-party plugins you are running? Please try disabling them all and, if that fixes thing, enabling them one by one. Well, I disabled a bunch at once and including trackstat and along with others which I really didn't use as much as I thought, and it works! There's still the occasional hiccup, about a second once every 10 songs, but nothing like before. I currently have the following plugins enabled: Auto Dim Display Date and Time Extension Downloader Find Cover Art Lazy Search Line In Music Information Screen MusicIP (A biggie for me!) NPR Radio Other Players Podcasts Radiotime Rescan Music Library Server and Network Health Sleepfade Spicefly SugarCube (another biggie I was afraid would be a culprit) Superdate Time Screensaver (essential) Visualizer Screensaver I've meant to use Dynamic Playlists and I occasionally look at TrackStat, but to be honest I let MusicIP be the guide most of the time so I can do without them for now. If any of these others might cause a problem let me know. Thanks so much for your help. Maybe when the schema is updated in 8.0 I can regain this functionality, but this is great for now, and I know where to look in the future. -- sander sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62152 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
pippen, Looks like you've been busy. Great work! I have one odditie that I can't quite figure out. Some of my players have a nice slider for volume control in the now playing screen. Other players have an odd up down arrow with a ramp volume display. How can I get them all to have the same controls? Thanks -- PRGeno PRGeno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
1.1 re-appears. Well, I deleted the app from the ipod touch, managed to download it again and it seems to come up fine. Strange!!! -- nmacfarl nmacfarl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
I must say Im a little confused about switching between Sn and Sc. Each time I try to go from Sc to Sn by changing the music source its says I must register but I am registered already.It will switch me to Sn but will say player not found.Can Sn be controlled via ipeng? or am I missing a plugin or something else that I need. -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
nmacfarl;413941 Wrote: 1.1 re-appears. Well, I deleted the app from the ipod touch, managed to download it again and it seems to come up fine. Strange!!! I have just had the same experience. Deleting it and downloading it again worked to restore it. I am not sure what is going on. -- RalphO RalphO Transporter/Audio Research SP9/Bryston ST4/Magneplanar MG1.6QR RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store
Hello all. iPeng is wonderful. For picking music, it makes the iPod unbeatable for me. I recently started using a tablet computer occasionally, but the lack of iPeng makes me prefer the touch. Thank you Pippin. I have developed a Crestron (home automation equipment) interface for SC, which now allows me to use the iPod Touch as a remote for the entire system, including source selection and control, volume, and lighting. For two sources, I use a SB2 and a SqueezeSlave on the server. Having the ability to control source and volume on the same page as music is really good for me. (I know that you can do volume in the SB, but that doesn't work for TV, etc.) The problem is that the functionality of my SC module is a joke in comparison to iPeng. It's mostly usable but only a fraction of the way there. (No search, no now playing manipulation, only currently playing cover art). It does have some things I would love in iPeng like dynamic playlist integration (still use iPeng web interface for that sometimes). My point is that I applaud your efforts and discussion because increased control from the iPod is great. I agree with Pippin that one problem with the iPod is the auto-lock (or lack of screen blanking without locking) and would add to that criticism the lack of hard buttons, which means you generally have to look at it to use it, making TV control a little less great. There are a number of devices that you can control via IP (Tivo, SqueezeCenter, Crestron, AMX, ...); perhaps it would be a good idea, as you say Pippin, to develop a plugin for SC that could interface with various things. Then you could put a GUI interface to that plugin to send commands from iPeng, if I understood you correctly. The beauty of the idea for me is that I could do a lot of the parsing and processing on the SC computer, in a Crestron plugin, rather than on my (more and more heavily loaded) Crestron processor. This would take generic commands from the CLI interface and send them to various devices. For me that's Crestron, but other people could directly control a TivO or, as you have been discussing, send IR commands from the SB to an emitter. Okay, sorry to ramble on there, if you made it through. I know nothing about writing plugins for SC, so I'm not really the right person to start this project, but I might start looking into it. Best, Jason -- jwmelvin jwmelvin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
(laugh) Now he has me playing with all the menus searching for it... Dave Strickler d...@thestricklers.org On Apr 8, 2009, at 8:13 PM, RalphO wrote: pippin;413927 Wrote: Oh, and before I forget about it: iPeng 1.1 has an unofficial feature I'm not going to announce. It may be against Apple's HIG although it has been requested A LOT by iPeng's users. Hint: it's NOT CoverFlow. I have found the unofficial feature. It's brilliant. -- RalphO RalphO Transporter/Audio Research SP9/Bryston ST4/Magneplanar MG1.6QR RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Great release! Money well spent i can say. Thanks! Altough I already found a bug. When I see the information of a song, and select the option of Show Artwork, I can see the album artwork just fine, but if I put my Ipod Touch in horizontal position, the image spins correctly, and when I tap the screen to return, the interface stays horizontaly, and the Now Playing screen looks akward. -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) *convert* (flac) *tag* (musicbrainz/mp3tag) *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) *albumart* (www/firefox) *transport* (winscp) *store* (debian) *manage* (squeezecenter) *control* (ipodtouch/ipeng-app) *play* (squeezebox) *preamplify* (zpre2) *amplify* (zampv3) *listen* (axiomm2/sennheiser-hd595) *scrooble* (last.fm) *enjoy* (me :) http://www.last.fm/user/pichonCalavera pichonCalavera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Dave Strickler;413957 Wrote: (laugh) Now he has me playing with all the menus searching for it... Dave Strickler dave (AT) thestricklers (DOT) org You won't find it in the menus :) -- pichonCalavera *rip* (eac) *convert* (flac) *tag* (musicbrainz/mp3tag) *normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000) *albumart* (www/firefox) *transport* (winscp) *store* (debian) *manage* (squeezecenter) *control* (ipodtouch/ipeng-app) *play* (squeezebox) *preamplify* (zpre2) *amplify* (zampv3) *listen* (axiomm2/sennheiser-hd595) *scrooble* (last.fm) *enjoy* (me :) http://www.last.fm/user/pichonCalavera pichonCalavera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
PRGeno;413939 Wrote: pippen, Looks like you've been busy. Great work! I have one odditie that I can't quite figure out. Some of my players have a nice slider for volume control in the now playing screen. Other players have an odd up down arrow with a ramp volume display. How can I get them all to have the same controls? Thanks Do you, or have you ever had DBPoweramp installed with any of those players? Thats what causes the up/down arrows. I had the same problem and did not know how to flush the player settings for my offending player so I ended up reinstalling SC to clear it up. Hopefully it will be easier for your to clean it out. -- Aesculus Chris Aesculus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Aesculus;413961 Wrote: Do you, or have you ever had IRBlaster installed with any of those players? Thats what causes the up/down arrows. I had the same problem and did not know how to flush the player settings for my offending player so I ended up reinstalling SC to clear it up. Hopefully it will be easier for your to clean it out. Edit: I had put in DBPoweramp instead of IRBlaster. I may have had IRBlaser enabeld at some point in time, but not that I remember on the couple players with this problem. iPeng 1.05 on my iPod Touch doesn't show this problem, but iPeng 1.1 on my iPhone does. Very odd. And it doesn't appear that I can control the volume on those two players (out of my 5) that have the problem. -- PRGeno PRGeno's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
