Re: [slim] Network demands: flac, wmp, mp3, etc.
RonM;441964 Wrote: > My question was really about lossless formats, so in reality the > question is about Apple lossless, WMA lossless and flac (I know there > are others). I was just wondering if the way SC handles the files was > different in some way that effects the data transfer rate -- are they > generally the same in terms of bandwidth requirements over the network, > or are any more efficient? It depends on the format in which you are sending the files across the network. Under SC Settings > Advanced > File types you can choose, for example, to have Apple Lossless (ALAC) transcoded to MP3, FLAC or WAV. Those three choices will chew up network bandwidth in increasing order of severity. The SB players do not support ALAC directly, so some transcoding needs to be done on the server, and that choice determines the bandwith requirements. I think the same is true for WMA Lossless, but I'm not sure as I don't follow those developments closely. A compressed format like FLAC will generally be less demanding of bandwidth than an uncompressed format like WAV or AIFF. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Help with tune to URL needing authentication
I am trying to tune in to a new subscription radio station (MojaRadio) that requires authentication. I am trying to come up with the correct syntax using the HTTP basic auth but it is not working. My UID is an email address and the URL itself has a colon within it. I suspect that the syntax won't translate correctly. The URL for the station is: liveDOTstre3mDOTcom:/secureDOTm3u So the basic auth statement may be confusing SC. It looks like this: "myn...@comcastdotnet:passw...@livedotstre3mdotcom:/secure.m3u" Any help much appreciated! Andy -- adorfmann adorfmann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31762 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65767 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annoying Napster info
Eivindz;441927 Wrote: > Why bother translating an ad for something that is not available? Maybe for Norwegians who live someplace (outside Norway) where it is available -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65688 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] iPeng 1.1 now on the AppStore
Great app! Maybe I am over looking a feature, but is there a sleep command for the devices in iPeng? Can't seem to find it as I am trying to put my boom to sleep in 60 minutes via iPeng Thanks -- Govnah Govnah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2719 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Well, instant karma got me After my bold claims that my rebuffering problems were fixed, they've started again. Back to square one BTW, I'm running SC on an XP machine with plenty of RAM and a reasonably fast chip...certainly enough horsepower to do the job. I'm now thinking the issue may be the connection between my router and the host PC. They're not in the same room, and the layout of the house is such that the only way I can get a reliable connection is through powerline adapters. That connection may not be "reliable" enough for streaming FLAC, however. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network demands: flac, wmp, mp3, etc.
maggior;441962 Wrote: > BTW, I've never heard of mp3 lossless. mp3 by definition is a lossy > CODEC. > . . . but I was apparently in outer space when I wrote my original query. My question was really about lossless formats, so in reality the question is about Apple lossless, WMA lossless and flac (I know there are others). I was just wondering if the way SC handles the files was different in some way that effects the data transfer rate -- are they generally the same in terms of bandwidth requirements over the network, or are any more efficient? R. -- RonM RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network demands: flac, wmp, mp3, etc.
maggior;441962 Wrote: > > BTW, I've never heard of mp3 lossless. mp3 by definition is a lossy > CODEC. > QUOTE] > > . . . but I was apparently in outer space when I wrote my original > query. > > My question was really about lossless formats, so in reality the > question is about Apple lossless, WMA lossless and flac (I know there > are others). I was just wondering if the way SC handles the files was > different in some way that effects the data transfer rate -- are they > generally the same in terms of bandwidth requirements over the network, > or are any more efficient? > > R. -- RonM RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network demands: flac, wmp, mp3, etc.
It depends on the bitrate. A typical FLAC file as I've seen in my collection is between 700 and 1000 kbps. mp3 - it depends on what bitrate you chose for the compression, e.g. a 128kpbs mp3 file will require 128kbps of bandwith to play with no issues. In reality you'll need a little more bandwith to allow for transport overhead - assume 20 or 30% required extra bandwidth as a ballpark figure. This is the bandwidth required for each player. The server would have to support the sum of the bandwidth of any players playing at the same time. With a wired connection of 100Mbps, this generally isn't an issue. If your server is connected via wireless, then it could be an issue. I hope that helps. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,462 songs, 2,276 albums, 434 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Network demands: flac, wmp, mp3, etc.
I see in another thread that there has been some suggestion that flac files have the potential of making unseemly network demands under some circumstances (like restricted network capacity). I'm not sure if this is something specific to flac, or if "flac" is being used as a stand-in for all lossless formats. What are the actual relative bandwidth requirements of flac vs wma lossless vs mp3 lossless? I'd have thought they'd be pretty much the same. R. -- RonM RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65763 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate server for SqueezeCenter?
let me add that an AC/DC version, powerwise, not the band, is part of what i was getting at with the car/laptop battery/solar thing. also, the infrant allows me to update SC alone, via browser file upload, and separate from the infrant install. this is great, as i can load nightlies and so on. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate server for SqueezeCenter?
hi, i have spent some time on your website, but i'm still a bit confused. it seems people could simply use your software for free, and not buy anything from you, right? and if they do buy from you, the price is fairly low for the hardware you sell, so i wonder how you make enough money? are there enough people out there who simply want a SC/NAS 1TB premade system? basically an infrant on steroids without the price tag? don't feel a need to answer all that, but it leads to my next question which is what are you looking to enhance primarily? software or hardware? (also, u might want to tell people that they need to turn the "iso" into a vortexbox CD, and how to do that. some folks wouldn't be up to snuff on it) we have an infrant 1100 rack model at work, and it has many features as well as SC built in. can your entire system be managed via web interface? can someone set it up to act as a ftp server via that interface? (as a for instance) what about ddns support? you might want to also display the IP + port number for SC access. updating by merely feeding the system a file would be nice, instead of the commands that would be beyond some folks. more below: agillis;438570 Wrote: > I'm trying to design the ultimate NAS for SqueezeCenter. And I am > interested in getting some input from the community. I think we already > have the ultimate NAS operating system. VortexBox is light weight, fast, > easy to configure, ripps CDs for you, and it's free! > > Our appliance draws 24 watts, is fast, and high capacity (1TB). So > what's next? What direction should we go to make the appliance better. > Here are some possible design goals. What does everybody want the most. > > 1. Quiet - This seems like something people want unless there putting > their NAS is a closet someplace. Should we try to make the appliance > even quieter? Or maybe no moving parts at all, completely silent? silent is always best. :) still, some folks might like the lil computer speaker, if it has one, to beep or something when a CD is done, in case they aren't staring at it. even better, say something with a distinctive tone. agillis;438570 Wrote: > 2. Size - If we removed the CD ripping drive we could make the NAS > smaller then a SqueezeBox classic. Are people interested in this? i'd imagine some people would be. give it a usb port for usb CD drives. i can see running something small in cars and such. if mobile, no moving parts that were very affixed would be crucial. agillis;438570 Wrote: > 3. Low power - 24 watts is very little power you can run the system for > $20 a year in power. But maybe we could make it lower power. Would > people be interested in a less than 10 watt appliance? seems to be more and more relevant these days. at such low wattage, do i dare broach the idea of a laptop battery charged off of solar power? agillis;438570 Wrote: > 4. Bigger capacity - How about a 4.5TB NAS? Are people interested in > this type of capacity? Even if the noise and power consumption is > higher? > > We are building VortexBox software and the appliance for music > listeners. Please post your comments and help us figure out what to > build next! i think a lot of people would like more storage. i currently only do mp3 at 256kbps and i have ~300gigs of music. i won't go to FLAC until i figure out what my home NAS system is going to be, and your product (the software anyway), is definitely on my mind. however, i would want a full media server, meaning it would have to do video, pictures, etc as well and work reliably with whatever client appliances i have. i also MUST have RAID functionality. i have some of the same concerns as earlier posters, so i won't repeat them, but i would like the ability to choose what formats to rip, and also have new rips in a "staging" area that i could check out before manually putting them into what i consider the proper archived place. thats a must as well. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
I have recently bought an iPhone, which serves very well as a Squeezebox controller (using iPeng app) as well as of course promises to be a very nice MP3 player. I would really love to hone an easily automated way of syncing my Squeezecenter library with one which I can carry with me on the iPhone. Having half of my large music collection as FLAC files means I can't use iTunes to sync these. The answer seemed to lie in Mediamonkey Gold- which can autoconvert FLAC, Ogg, etc and high-bitrate music files to lower bitrate MP3 files which are better suited to syncing with the iPhone. I much preferred Mediamonkey's library management also, it just seemed to work better with the tags I create in mp3tag for the Squeezecenter library. I use trackstat to rate my music in Squeezecenter- I tried and failed to have an automated way of e.g. taking this rating and applying it as a rating within Mediamonkey (via a script). This would allow me to only sync those tracks to the iPhone which I originally rated on Squeezecenter. I was able to do this manually by using Trackstat Export, to export the e.g. 4star rated files as a playlist, and import this playlist into Mediamonkey, then rate everything in it with 4 stars. Then came the bombshell that the new iPhone firmware upgrade crashes Mediamonkey. Now I am forced to using iTunes again, and will have to explore the option of creating a separate lower bitrate MP3 library for syncing with the iPhone. This gets me nowhere nearer a solution for automating ratings transfers from trackstat, so that rated playlists can be automatically synced to the iPhone (to save space with no duff tracks), and be up-to-date with all recently rated tracks. I have given up on the idea of syncing "number of plays" between trackstat and itunes/mediamonkey. Would be interesting to see how others deal with syncing recently rated tracks. -- heidtheba heidtheba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10270 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My Squeezebox Vehicle Setups
As cool as this is, and as much as I love to tinker with technology, the pragmatist in me wonders why not just hook up an iPod to your car stereo? I don't get the need for a full blown Squeezebox setup in a car -- you're just playing local tunes, right? Have you found a way to pull in Rhapsody and other online services while on the road? Or am I missing something? (Not meant as a criticism, just wondering.) I just hard wired my iPhone to my car stereo and am thrilled to have Pandora on the road, in addition to the "greatest hits" of my music collection loaded to the phone. -- ajkidle ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65695 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
gharris999;441923 Wrote: > > Can one purchase an Android phone already unlocked? Google offers an unlocked (SIM and root/bootloader access) version of the T-Mobile G1 for $425 ($399 plus $25 to sign up as an android publisher, iirc). There are several unlocked G1s for sale on ebay and the like, but I don't know what they tend to sell for. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
Got mine 2 weeks ago. Love it. Go for it! -- ajkidle ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
Yes, because then you can grab Squeemote and use it as a great remote control for your Squeezeboxes ;) -- Luke Redpath LUKE REDPATH Freelance Ruby/Rails/iPhone Developer 'for hire' (http://lukeredpath.wufoo.com/forms/hire-me-for-your-next-project/). 'lukeredpath.co.uk' (http://lukeredpath.co.uk) | 'Squeemote - the iPhone SqueezeBox Remote' (http://lukeredpath.co.uk/squeemote) Luke Redpath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=859 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
Have got Spotify showing in favourites URL: http://localhost:8124/ I can hear it on pc only. Duet handset shows "connecting" then "timed out". I am running iTunes as music library which works well on a Vista laptop. Router is connected via ethernet to Squeezebox due to previous rebuffer problems. Previously tried Edcast/Icecast method not much luck there either. Has anybody any suggestions? -- pete the feet pete the feet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ultimate server for SqueezeCenter?
Have you made any design decisions yet? agillis;438570 Wrote: > I'm trying to design the ultimate NAS for SqueezeCenter. And I am > interested in getting some input from the community. -- jimbres jimbres's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5122 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
ModelCitizen;441884 Wrote: > There's only one other person in this thread who has experienced > anything like the same problem problem (maggior). You've got to wonder > if he is running the app on something as feeble as a Netgear Duo > Readynas too. > I do wish people would take a little more care to read the rest of the thread some times. He has already said he also tried running on a 2.2GHz machine and had the same problems. So whatever the issue is here it probably isn't just down to his NAS. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annoying Napster info
It doesn't bother me anymore either, but it is was very misleading and confusing when I first saw it. Why bother translating an ad for something that is not available? It made me spend a lot of time trying to figure out whether I could use Napster or not. -- Eivindz Eivindz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65688 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
gharris999;441923 Wrote: > $1K. Yikes. OK, maybe jailbreaking IS for me. > > Can one purchase an Android phone already unlocked? Do you get it cheaper? I mean, as I said, It doesn't make that much of a difference whether you pay for it in cash or through an expensive phone plan. Do you get good tariffs for iPhone in the US? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
peterw;441867 Wrote: > Caveat emptor. Googling (I missed this story when it broke) suggests > that Orange France's liberated phones cost about $1000 usd and only > accept French SIMs. > > At least T-Mobile will unlock their $200 Android phones after 90 > days... > > Pippin, thanks for the info & perspective. My experience with a > Blackberry 4.x device suggests that background apps are viable, but you > clearly do have more experience than I. > > -Peter $1K. Yikes. OK, maybe jailbreaking IS for me. Can one purchase an Android phone already unlocked? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
Subsev;441379 Wrote: > I have the exact problem, hope anyone have an answer. It works now! I typed in wrong ip number before. Sweet! -- Subsev Subsev's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31727 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I had the same rebuffering issues with 7.3.3 and wireless. No problems using 7.2.1. At least in my case something happened to the wireless connection causing rebuffering issues between 7.2.1 and 7.3.3. I then decided to try a homeplug ethernet connection and now 7.3.3 works flawlessly except when my wife plugs the vacuum cleaner into the same electrical circuit as the SB3 :-)which creates enough noise to disrupt the connection--but that is to be expected. -- Jeff52 Jeff52's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Buffer fullness "now playing" diagnostic
Simple question: what do the two numbers on the SB3 buffer fullness diagnostic screen mean? I see a display line with something like 1.7 / 9.9 seconds. I am tempted to interpret these as the reading and writing pointer positions in the buffer translated from samples into seconds, but I don't really know and I don't like to guess. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65757 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
benthos;441879 Wrote: > I'd be interested to know what changed about the Squeezecenter software > after 7.2.1 to make rebuffering such a problem for so many people. There's only one other person in this thread who has experienced anything like the same problem problem (maggior). You've got to wonder if he is running the app of something as feeble as a Netgear Duo Readynas too. MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
maggior;441720 Wrote: > > I've NEVER experienced rebuffering messages in the past. I ran 7.2.1 > for a long time because each time I upgraded to a new version I would > have dropouts. Always, going back to 7.2.1 would fix it. That's been my experience exactly. > > 7.3.3 has been pretty solid for me, but I've experienced the dreaded > rebuffering situation. It seems too coincidental that these > rebuffering messages are popping up now that I've moved to 7.3.3. They > are annoying, but infrequent enough that I've decided to stick it out. I found that going from wireless to wired improved things somewhat (less rebuffering), which is why I now keep my SB3 tethered. I found that if I turned the microwave on (or sent negative vibes to anyone, etc.), wireless mode would be interrupted. Another advantage of the wired method is that the unit is much more responsive. Following some of the previous posts, I tried the network test. It showed a continuous 100% at the highest transfer rate. I do find that 7.3.3 is better about rebuffering than the previous version (though that might be attributable to the ethernet connection). It doesn't happen very often, but when it does, it's a pain in the @ss. Resetting the unit doesn't fix it. I'd rather not reinstall the system software for my Readynas if I can avoid it - especially when the benefits of doing so are uncertain. I plan at this point to remove the few resident programs that are running on the NAS and see if that helps. If the rebuffering continues, I'll be reinstalling 7.2.1 once again. I'd be interested to know what changed about the Squeezecenter software after 7.2.1 to make rebuffering such a problem for so many people. Chris -- benthos benthos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Setting Sleep from SqueezeCenter...
peterw;441735 Wrote: > I'd try adding "button browse; button now_playing;". I wouldn't do > simply now_playing because that button will toggle the Now Playing > format & visualizer options if you're already in Now Playing; by sending > a Browse button command first you should avoid that. It might be cleaner > if you could send a command to jump into your When Playing screensaver, > which is something that my SaverSwitcher plugin almost allows (it gives > an Activate Screensaver option if you're using my ContextMenu plugin), > but unfortunately I didn't make a CLI command for that. "button browse; button now_playing" did the trick. Thanks! I'll fool around with the itunes plugin logging when I get a chance, and see what's there. But as I said, it isn't a big deal since it isn't something I expect to be doing on a regular basis. -- CliffC CliffC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52836 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
peterw;441867 Wrote: > Caveat emptor. Googling (I missed this story when it broke) suggests > that Orange France's liberated phones cost about $1000 usd and only > accept French SIMs. > I do have an Italian (don't know which network) iPhone 3G (not 3GS), was the top model when I bought it a year ago, sold at around 700 (so the 1.000$ probably fit) and works with all German networks. 700 sounds hefty but I figured the different price of T-Mobile's iPhone plan compared to the one I have is around 1.200 (over 24 months) so it pays and I don't have to switch. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
gharris999;441854 Wrote: > Thanks for the tip re purchasing in France or Italy. I suppose I ought > to invest some $$$ now in FXE in anticipation of making this purchase > Caveat emptor. Googling (I missed this story when it broke) suggests that Orange France's liberated phones cost about $1000 usd and only accept French SIMs. At least T-Mobile will unlock their $200 Android phones after 90 days... Pippin, thanks for the info & perspective. My experience with a Blackberry 4.x device suggests that background apps are viable, but you clearly do have more experience than I. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
gharris999;441854 Wrote: > Thanks for the tip re purchasing in France or Italy. I suppose I ought > to invest some $$$ now in FXE in anticipation of making this purchase a > year or two down the road. > > Streaming: I asked this question when the Jive was in development...and > the answer still isn't intuitively obvious to me: > > For a handheld device like the iThing, I assume that I won't be able to > discern much of an audio difference on play-back between lossless and > lossy content. I also assume that using the iThing's CoreAudio stuff to > decode MP3 audio is easier to implement than a port of libflac. So, > given those two assumptions, what's the trade-off for making streaming > playback work on the iThing? Server-side transcoding to MP3 with iPeng > connecting as http://scip:9000/stream.mp3 like any other mp3 player? Or > make iPeng into some kind of a stripped-down SqueezePlay client capable > of receiving a flac stream and decoding it? Which is more likely to > drain the battery faster? Higher bandwith requirements for the flac > stream but lower cpu utilization for decoding? (That's flac's big > strength, right?) Or lower bandwidth requirements to receive the MP3 > stream but higher cpu utilization to decode it? > > Or am I working with faulty assumptions here? I assume your iThing reference is properly documented below...? http://www.bosey.co.in/2008/09/apple-launches-ithing-nobody-knows-what.html -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best mobile phone for controlling SB?
Thanks for the tip re purchasing in France or Italy. I suppose I ought to invest some $$$ now in FXE in anticipation of making this purchase a year or two down the road. Streaming: I asked this question when the Jive was in development...and the answer still isn't intuitively obvious to me: For a handheld device like the iThing, I assume that I won't be able to discern much of a audio difference on play-back between lossless and lossy content. I also assume that using the iThing's CoreAudio stuff to decode MP3 audio is easier to implement than a port of libflac. So, given those two assumptions, what's the trade-off for making streaming playback work on the iThing? Server-side transcoding to MP3 with iPeng connecting as http://scip:9000/stream.mp3 like any other mp3 player? Or make iPeng into some kind of a stripped-down SqueezePlay client capable of receiving a flac stream and decoding it? Which is more likely to drain the battery faster? Higher bandwith requirements for the flac stream but lower cpu utilization for decoding? (That's flac's big strength, right?) Or lower bandwidth requirements to receive the MP3 stream but higher cpu utilization to decode it? Or am I working with faulty assumptions here? -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64944 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
Hercules;441804 Wrote: > It's about time I got a new phone. I'm trying to decide whether to get > an iPhone and would appreciate your thoughts on the iPhone, as well as > on my situation. Thank you! > > My requirements are for a device that: > - acts as both a phone and an mp3 player (thereby replacing my current > Sony K800i phone and Cowon iAudio 7 mp3 player) > - will work well with my private Gmail (but won't need to use my work > email) > - has a reasonably good GPS that I would be able to use for getting > around (including while cycling on-road and off-road) > - is a fun gadget :-) > > My primary concern is whether the use of iTunes will have a detrimental > on my well-structured and time-consumingly-tagged music library. I > accept that I will need to create a second mirrored music library in mp3 > format (as the majority of my music is currently FLAC). I'm concerned > that iTunes will start messing around with my music files (i.e. > restructure them, change tags, etc.). While in theory that shouldn't be > an issue - as it will be a "disposable" copy library that could be > easily recreated - I'd guess that a library that is prone to being > reorganised by iTunes would be difficult to synchronise with the main > library. I'd prefer to use another application to iTunes but recognise > that iTunes has broader benefits that will make it worth using. And > maybe I'm being paranoid about iTunes :-) > > I'd appreciate any thoughts from those of you who have been through > similar decisions, as well as general comments on the pros and cons of > the iPhone itself. I have to admit the iPhone does look cool and I am > tempted:-) Don't know to much about EU networks, but here in the States, I like my iPhone. Works great as a phone, iPod, mobile browser, and with iPeng it is a great addition to Squeezeboxing. As for having iTunes because of the iPhone, I keep two separate libraries on separate drives. I rip to FLAC on my main server and then use the converter in dBpowerAmp to convert to 256 MP3 the songs I want to put on my iPhone. Really no need to convert them all in my case as 6TB of FLAC will not fit on an iPhone even when converted to the lossiest MP3. So I only convert favorites and then spot convert when I want something different on the iPhone. I turn off all tagging and art work searching in iTunes so that iTunes can't hose my tags, artwork and library. Another approach for somebody just starting is to use Vortexbox as it rips a FLAC copy and an MP3 copy automatically. So I say go for the iPhone if you need a new phone and want to also control Squeezeboxes! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5 Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB3, ToughBook iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Smiling - local Clearchannel stations AVAILABLE on RadioTime
Maybe this is old news, but I was glad to see that our local Clearchannel AM stations are available on RadioTime. There are huge powerlines between me and the transmitters - I get nothing but static on AM radio. We're back on the air, and I'm loving it. Kris -- kpfeif kpfeif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9991 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
Go for it. I use several IPODS and we have two iphones. Iphone works nicely for all the uses you have requested (and is a fantastic controller for squeezeboxes if you use Pippin's IPENG application). I keep a FLAC version of files for use with SC at home and a mirror image of mp3 files within itunes. In itunes, you should "uncheck" the option "allow itunes to manage library". This way it won't reorganize any of your files. In my case I don't care that it reorganizes, because it uses the same strategy I do (artist/album/song or compilations/album/song). Itunes doesn't modify my mp3 tags at all unless I edit/change tag data using itunes (which I don't). Itunes will add a "soundcheck" value to each file when added to the library for use in its own version of replaygain. This information is added as an additional comment tag (COMMENT ITUNNORM). It doesn't modify your other comment tag if it exists and won't modify your replaygain tags if you have those. And I believe as long as USE SOUNDCHECK is turned OFF when you add the files to your itunes library it won't even do this (although the soundcheck value is useful with the IPOD for volume normalization--I use mp3tag to convert the replaygain album gain values into soundcheck values used by ITUNES, but this is another conversation). If you are really paranoid, simply select all your mp3 files and "write protect" them before adding to ITUNES library. This way itunes can't do anything to the files. Keep in mind that most of what ITUNES does is in its own library. It creates a library database when it originally imports the files (using info from the tags), but the ipod/iphone and itunes is using it's library information from then on. I have no trouble keeping the two library's organized and synchronized (FLAC and mp3) and I have over 100,000 files. I can't speak to all comments, but in my opinion most of the complaints about ITUNES "messing" with things seem to be caused by the USER not understanding how to use itunes and set the appropriate options. Itunes is not evil. Just a software program. I use dbpoweramp for ripping and converting from FLAC to mp3. I use mp3tag for certain things dbpoweramp can't do. I use foobar2000 for playing files on my computer itself. I use SqueezeCenter for feeding my numerous Squeezeboxes, and I use IPODs/IPhones for music on the go. Bottom line: I'm meticulous about my file organization, tags, etc. and Itunes used properly has not caused a single problem for me. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Should I buy an iPhone?
It's about time I got a new phone. I'm trying to decide whether to get an iPhone and would appreciate your thoughts on the iPhone, as well as on my situation. Thank you! My requirements are for a device that: - acts as both a phone and an mp3 player (thereby replacing my current Sony K800i phone and Cowon iAudio 7 mp3 player) - will work well with my private Gmail (but won't need to use my work email) - has a reasonably good GPS that I would be able to use for getting around (including while cycling on-road and off-road) - is a fun gadget :-) My primary concern is whether the use of iTunes will have a detrimental on my well-structured and time-consumingly-tagged music library. I accept that I will need to create a second mirrored music library in mp3 format (as the majority of my music is currently FLAC). I'm concerned that iTunes will start messing around with my music files (i.e. restructure them, change tags, etc.). While in theory that shouldn't be an issue - as it will be a "disposable" copy library that could be easily recreated - I'd guess that a library that is prone to being reorganised by iTunes would be difficult to synchronise with the main library. I'd prefer to use another application to iTunes but recognise that iTunes has broader benefits that will make it worth using. And maybe I'm being paranoid about iTunes :-) I'd appreciate any thoughts from those of you who have been through similar decisions, as well as general comments on the pros and cons of the iPhone itself. I have to admit the iPhone does look cool and I am tempted:-) -- Hercules Hercules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65750 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect MacMini direct to a SB3
to reaffirm and add to what has already been posted; You will need to manually set the IP address on both the Mac Mini and the SB3. You can use a standard Ethernet cable as both devices have the capability to automatically determine whether to function straight through or crossover. You will not be able to connect to Internet streams or SqueezeNetwork unless you are using the wireless function of either device to connect to the Internet. -- Kiwi SB3 Classic, SB Controller, SB Receiver, 3 x SB Boom, ? (waiting on announcement) Kiwi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65744 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Selling Duet, what about the Pin.
Seb, thanks for the quick answer. -- harmony895 Greetings: Henk Webmaster of Harmony and Squeezebox Forum Holland. harmony895's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31471 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Selling Duet, what about the Pin.
Yes, deleting the Receiver from your SqueezeNetwork account is sufficient. -- sebp System : Mac Mini for ripping to FLAC (XLD) > SqueezeCenter 7.3 running on a ReadyNAS NV+ Living room : Transporter > NuForce IA-7 v2 > KEF iQ9 Bedroom : Squeezebox 3 > Beresford DAC > NAD C315BEE > KEF iQ3 Kitchen : SB Receiver > Trends Audio TA10.1 > Celestion F10 Bathroom : SB Boom 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Selling Duet, what about the Pin.
I want to sell my Duet, but what about the Pin i used to register it. When i delete it in Squeezenetwork, is that enough, so that the buyer can register it again?? -- harmony895 harmony895's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31471 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65746 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
Probably. Syncing with soft players is never as good as hardware players as the software player has no control over the type of audio hardware, drivers or audio effects enabled - all of which can affect time taken to sync. So Softsqueeze may be discarding a few packets while trying to get audio synced. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Softsqueeze skipping at start of track
In the meantime I noticed that the media centre player was synced with a Squeezebox Duet receiver in another room. When I removed the sync the problem appeared to go away - 3 tracks now and it hasn't skipped. Maybe the sync was causing the problem> -- itm itm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65735 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
> > I broke my install of 7.3.3 on Vista by installing Cisco Speed Meter. > This added a bucket-load of drivers in the network stack, and triggered > all manner of halts and rebuffering. > If you took this action because I suggested do a "Network Test" - I was referring to the Network Test that is part of SC and available in SB and SBC menus or under "Network & Server Health" on SC's Help page.. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
