Re: [slim] Keep running LMS and PLEX from PC or change to RPi and/or NAS
I've just rebuilt my LMS due to SSL problems on Windows 10, as discussed in this forum, https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111658-LMS-8-0-repository-problem/page9 and then came across this before logging off. I posted this description of my Windows set-up in part to describe why I would prefer not to switch to a Pi or even more general a Linux distro. Yes, Pi's are super cheap and so is the distro etc. However, if you are Windows literate, you can buy perfectly capable Dell Optiplex Small Form Factor PC's for around $25. The Optiplex SFF all have an embedded Windows license key in firmware. Even if they don't ship with a drive you can install a small SSD, install Windows 7 and then go through Windows 10 upgrade for free. What follows is my description from the other forum. For wifi, we have a 130ft long home, with a full basement. We run 3x wifi networks, 1-guest, 1-streaming, 1-approved laptops, phones etc. I have 1x wifi extender that repeats all wifi signals in the basement. We have LMS players in EVERY room and one on the back patio, and one in the garage. Most of our video streaming is done via hard wired systems. I could indeed switch my LMS Server to Linux from Windows, but I suspect a whole new set of problems would open up. I use 2x 2008-year ReadyNas servers accessed from Windows via SMB, one is the primary, the other is a backup of the primary and backs up weekly directly using rsync. The primary is linked as a drive into LMS Windows system. The LMS Windows system also does an incremental backup everyday of any new files in the music/pictures/documents folder to the cloud using iDrive who allow the backup of network drives from Windows. I run the LMS on a 2014 Dell OptiPlex 3020 headless and access via Remote Desktop Connection. Everything is automated. So yeah I could switch, but I'd prefer not to. If I can ever be of any help testing or debugging LMS on Windows, I'm always willing... --- https://ctproduced.com < Creed Taylor/CTI/KUDU http://markcathcart.com/about Running LMS Server, currently v8.0.0, (1600976618) on Headless WIN10 System; music on Netgear ReadyNAS; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage), Duet(basement). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Orange Squeeze app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] TuneIn and removal of non-UK stations for UK listeners
slartibartfast wrote: > I can't say I have ever noticed any "Geographically tailored > advertisements" via Tune In. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Playing European station from the USA, we definitely get them. Listening to French radio stations, with all the talk in Francais, and all of a sudden some crazy US advert with a US accent comes on. --- https://ctproduced.com < Creed Taylor/CTI/KUDU http://markcathcart.com/about Running LMS Server, currently 7.9.3 on Headless WIN10 System; music on Netgear ReadyNAS; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage), Duet(basement). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Orange Squeeze app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Do We Still Call It "Logitech Media Server?"
Greg Erskine wrote: > Michael works for Logitech. and thats enough of a reason in my book. --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.1; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage), Duet(basement) Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Orange Squeeze app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109337 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox
toby10 wrote: > Indeed. You could also bring back cassettes, 8-tracks, HD-DVD, beta > max/VHS, etcÂ… Overtime, I expect to see the end of the album as a concept, and thats more worrying. As streaming services become more embedded and a way for the media giants to maintain a profitable lock on the industry, I'd expect them to start only releasing tracks via streaming services. While that might be good for streaming receivers, over time those to will become only the linked to the same streaming services, it's just a question of time for this to play out. There are two many big companies with deep pockets and time to play the long game. We are already light years from the days of MusicMatch and local MP3, through Napster and on. How long before home speaker devices will be amazon, google, apple and a few others, with exclusive rights to specific stream services? The new "cable tv". --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.1; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage), Duet(basement) Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Orange Squeeze app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
kidstypike wrote: > I think the screenshot you give above *is* the larger gadget. > > Small & large sizes below for comparison. (my screen resolution is 1920 > x 1080, medium size icons) > My laptop monitor runs at 3200x1800, my external monitor that came from runs at 3840x2160. Both use desktop scaling so the text is larger... What version of Windows are you using? and if WIN10, what software did you use to enable gadgets to work? --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox
Anyone else notice the similarity between the Duet+controller and the Harmony Pro and the Home Hub... https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-pro?crid=60 I wonder if you could use the Harmony Pro as a remote to control a player or LMS? --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
cathcam wrote: > > However, its pretty useless to me at the resolution I run my main and > external monitors. The gadget is too small to be useable. > > Turns out the latest version of http://8gadgetpack.net/ gets around the > resolution issue and allows larger gadgets. --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
cathcam wrote: > Pretty sure these are Bens current blogs, he works at Microsoft, I've > emailed him to ask if he has any interest in reviving the Windows Gadget > or releasing the code for someone else to pickup. > > http://bencoleman.co.uk/ > https://github.com/benc-uk Ben has confirmed it was his, and will look for the source code, if he still has it he'll let me have it and I'll have a look and see what I can do with it. https://twitter.com/BenCodeGeek/status/910213820483883008 --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
d6jg wrote: > Try running LMS inside Chrome in app mode. Totally separate window, no > menus etc but resizable to suit. > Thats exactly what the big window on the right is. The Windows gadget is the tiny window, and coincidentally, thats the shortcut for the BBc iPlayer Today list ;-) --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
Pretty sure these are Bens current blogs, he works at Microsoft, I've emailed him to ask if he has any interest in reviving the Windows Gadget or releasing the code for someone else to pickup. http://bencoleman.co.uk/ https://github.com/benc-uk --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Desktop Gadget for Windows
I just tried this on Windows 10 latest, and it works fine. You need to install http://gadgetsrevived.com/download-sidebar/ in order to add support for gadgets back in. The you can download the gadget from the wayback machine and load it in Windows 10. However, its pretty useless to me at the resolution I run my main and external monitors. The gadget is too small to be useable. [image: https://markcathcart.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/lms-gadget-on-win10.jpg] --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox
Ikabob wrote: > I just had an idea that might bring SB owners back into the market > place. I haven't read all the posts on this thread so someone may have > alluded to something like this. But, what if SONOS made their devices > compatible with the Squeezeboxes. I would be very inclined to buy SONOS > products to add to my SB ecosystem. It might be a profitable venture for > SONOS. Probably not. Even if it was just a software update it would take a team of 4-6 people including a PM, test, docs etc. You are looking at over half a million dollars just for 6-months work, and that doesn't include shipping and marketing, or ongoing maintenance. To open Sonos up to what maybe an audience of maybe a couple of thousand potential users at most. Of those users, how many would be additional Sonos and how many? I certainly wouldn't be prepared to buy into the Sonos eco-system and would rather spend my money elsewhere. If Sonos were an open platform, it could be done outside of the Sonos company and licensed as an app, or supported by add revenue, but then it would have already been done. You need a business case of 3x the investment minimum to get anything off the ground just to look at what it might cost. 10x is normal. and yes, I used to be an Executive Director and architect/designer for major software orgs... --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox
Julf wrote: > The whole SONOS business idea is based on tying you into a closed > system. For the most part, all cloud services are the same. Pull you in, lock up your data, charge to access it, add services to maintain it. How many companies do you know that offer the right to leave and take your data with you? Facebook does, but its getting increasingly hard to do, but yes, they'll zip you entire history/pictures etc. How many others? This is the holy grail of the VC backed software startup. Some unique idea that can lead to huge profits by capturing the users data, either online or in proprietary file formats on your machine. I bought 3x copies of Adobe PDF creator over the years, but now can't use them, and their online service only is way, way too expensive and they don't provide any reasonable upgrade paths. There are a ton of examples like this. --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should resurrect squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > > IMHO the LMS based product is becoming more and more of a niche product. > > Who does still curate his own music collection? We do, yes. But who > else? The mass market future is in the cloud, like it or not. As you > said: easy to use. And connected. > > -- > > Michael I wrote this yesterday. While I agree that music is moving to the cloud, I do feel that it's time for the pendulum to swing back the other way. Cloud services continue to be increasingly risky from a security perspective. Userid/password management is getting more and more complex and diffuse, and the "ownership" of hardware is becoming increasingly questionable where it uses cloud services. I've had absolutely horrid service from ring.com in the last couple of months. https://cathcam.wordpress.com/2017/09/18/do-you-own-the-device-you-just-bought/ Home automation is so fragmented its hardly worth trying to do anything with. Keeping in the game via some form of hardware player would still be a good idea IMHO. --- http://markcathcart.com/about Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 7.9.0; Transporter(Living Room)+Duet Controller; Squeezebox Touch(Master Bedroom), (2x)Boom(Office, Patio), Radio(Guest Bedroom), Classic(garage). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 10. Use Squeeze Ctrl app on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I wish to change my 'server pc' to a new one and need assistance....
I'd also support moving to a NAS, you can set it up separately copying your music over cleaning up tags and duplicates and then making the switch. I'd also recommend getting a NAS with at least 2 drives. I have a netgear readynas nvx and put 4x 2tb drives in it. After 4 years one of the drives started failing, I replaced and the NAS rebuilt with missing a beat. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, 2x Squeezebox Boom, Squeezebox Radio and a Squeezebox Classic(currently unused). Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 10; user of OrangeSqueeze on Android. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105778 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
Ikabob wrote: > Wouldn't it be nice if we could convince Logitech to begin production of > the Squeezebox Line again. > I believe they'd really be able to market them to bring in a very big > profit. > The Squeezeboxes are irreplaceable. I'd be totally lost without all the > beautiful entertainment that my Squeezebox ecosystem brings into our > home. > Let's ask LOGITECH to make them again! As others have stated, asides from they have no current hardware team, I work in the PC design/manufacturing business, and even if you had all the design diagrams and component specifications, the suppliers likely couldn't supply identical components to go on the circuit boards... and the redesign, testing and everything else starts to get more expensive. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
axelwin wrote: > Yep, sounds really good replacement solution to old SBT, more > informations here : > http://www.audiostream.com/content/auralic-ariesmini > http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/05/auralic-launch-aries-mini-streamer-at-munich-high-end-2015/ > How does this work with an LMS? Assuming my music is on a NAS that is ethernet attached to the same LAN as the ariesmini and normally played via the LMS running on the NAS. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
Those of you not involved in product design and delivery won't understand how complex a world it is these days. At almost every turn there is some form of consideration that you need legal and licensing agreement with, Just because you can build something from already available components, hardware or software doesn't mean that once built, you can then sell the end result. Just because, for example, you can buy a cheap DAC from a supplier in China, doesn't mean they have the license and the rights to sell it to you to include in another product. In the open source software arena, just because you can get Linux, Apache, Angular JS and a dozen other components which you can build into an application stack, doesn't then mean you can just call it open source and resell it with no consequences. Getting a product to market now, even as a "community" project has all sorts of risks, costs and due diligence. Thats why you see so many go to crowd funding. One of my current favorites due to ship anytime is the Dash Wireless headphones(*1), they raised over $3-million. I hope they've taken all the required steps, otherwise all their time, effort, design and IP could come to nothing when a company comes calling to tell you that the software, hardware or algorithm in your product violates their distribution, or worse patent. So, I have no idea what happened in this instance, but can tell folks that have never produced a product for sale, community, commodity or otherwise, there is much more to it than you'd imagine, and then there are people, their egos and feelings *1 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hellobragi/the-dash-wireless-smart-in-ear-headphones --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
pippin wrote: > You are assuming that anyone from Logitech other than Michael has even > looked at this forum over the last two years. I believe that assumption > is wrong. To the contrary, I'd be willing to bet that nobody who matters > in issues like this at Logitech is even aware of this whole discussion. > > And I agree all that crying out loud might cause is that this might > change and that would be a bad thing for everyone. > > I just imaging people writing angry mails to Logitech management about > some purported behavior they have never even heard of based on > information brought forward in this thread... Want this forum to be shut > down? That's probably the best way to make sure it is... Indeed, again from experience, as a Senior design engineer at currently Dell but for 22-years at IBM, big companies NEVER deny anything. Why? Because it is very hard for them to be accurate about what they are denying. Do they know for a fact none of their employees participated in the thing they are denying? For the most part no and once you go beyond a couple of hundred it's to difficult and time consuming to be sure(*1). While an employee may feel they can comment or be involved in something as an individual, if a company denies something, you and the law would asume they mean it and the denial covered all their employees. This post wasn't specifically aimed at the topic of this post, just an explanation of why what was proposed won't happen. *1. At least as of 2013, Logitech had 9,000 employees. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Comically Fumbled Squeezebox Replacement Thread - Would you be interested?
Mark Miksis wrote: > To me, the sad thing is that I wonder how many other potential third > party projects or contributors are deterred by the mystery and > uncertainty of all this. I suspect that the truth about all of this is > much more mundane and narrowly defined than most people suspect. > Without knowing that for sure, though, any future third party projects > may be slowed. I've dealt with this many times in many 25-years in senior positions for a couple of the worlds top computer companies. There really is nothing to be gained by speculating further here, the best thing is for those that want to pursue something real and related to the product owned by Logitech, is to contact them through their licensing, partner or legal team. One project, an emulator of a specific piece of equipment, survives to this day 20-years later exactly because once the escalation and war of words started, it was clearly best for everyone to withdraw from public debate and settle the disagreement privately. As a result, a book I co-wrote had to be recalled, and a second issue published without an entire chapter. It was an interesting and stressful example of backdown tactics. All the facebooks, twitters, fora, an interweb comments in the world won't solve this. There are potentially any number of legal issues to overcome before building a device capable of providing the same services as a Logitech Squeezebox, including copyright, trademark, patents etc. Anyone involved in the original creation of the software and hardware products and services around these products can be subject to any number of restrictions. While we can speculate, if there are indeed legal holds in place in relation to discussion, any one that knows risks serious penalties if they give any real direction or answers. Continuing to push for disclosure will likely end in "if want something really bad, thats how you get it, really bad" category --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103054 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2015 - Is the Squeezebox Universe Expanding of Shrinking?
JJZolx wrote: > Other than possibly the Radio, the Squeezebox players were all too > pricey to gain much of a foothold in the market of consumers who were > interested in only music streaming services. If the SB were introduced > today, it would flop even worse due to all of the competition in the > market. > > In fact, a focus on streaming services may be the very reason the SB > flopped. Logitech seemed to spend an inordinate amount of development > time and money supporting every little streaming service that popped up. > It appeared to be marketing's main focus as well. and too complicated. I've removed almost everything I can off the menus on my radio that is in the guest room. It's got search, sync, my music and thats about it. I tell visitors to search for their favorite radio stations and press and hold the channel buttons just like the car. Now I have my local LMS upto 7.9 from 7.7 avoids the old, "I don't know what I did, but its started to update the firmware" discussion --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102809 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC iPlayer no longer supported
majones wrote: > It's Triode's plugin - credit where credit is due! Glad it's working > well for you. Certainly I'm a huge fan. Corrected, thanks. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2015 - Is the Squeezebox Universe Expanding of Shrinking?
Cleve wrote: > > > Not only that, but eventually with some new iteration of Windows, the > Media Server software won't be compatible with future operating systems. > > > As others have said, Squeezebox threw in the towel too soon. It would > be a great market for Squeezebox now, I think. Well the great thing about opensource is it can be fixed. While I don't have time to learn the whole SQ infrastrcuture, I for one have some 25-years programming experience, I typically don't code in perl but can. In a couple of years I will be retired with enough time on my hands to give back to this great project. There are many others I'm sure. The down side is its all too complex, which is the up side for those of us here. We can get it to do almost anything. Unless the server and clients are dumbed down and made much easier, it will always be a hard sell for music aficionados. Logitech tried to dumb down the Squeeze radio with the UAE, and we all complained... and were delighted when we could turn them back into a Squeeze radio. The first I'm most interested in is a SB Touch like device with quality audio components, and a good(low noise) power supply. If you doesn't exist by the time I retire, I might have a go, I have all the design and manufacturing contacts... --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423154751; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102809 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC iPlayer no longer supported
I'd planned to upgrade my server and for the last week have been reorganizing and re-tag most of my music library. Prior to that, I shutdown LMS 7.7.2 and removed the installation and all the config, cache etc. I'm running LMS on a NetGear ReadyNas NVX with 4x 2TB drives I installed the latest 7.9 nightly build, when through the set-up, deactivated all the plugins I don't use, and added errlands BBC plugin and a few I do use. I restarted the LMS, and I have much better BBC than ever than I did under 7.7.2. The BBC London stream is working, as is BBC R2, R4, and 6 Music. Best of all I'm now able to play iPlayer radio recordings. This definitely never worked before. I get a 128kbs AAC stream and have squeezeplay, touch, boom, radio all synced up and working. I'm currently streaming this URL: iplayer://aod?ms=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/p02gzbrm&dur=10800&icon=&title=Robert%20Elms%3A%20Alexander%20Stewart%20and%20Mark%20Hemmings&desc=Live%20music%20from%20Alexander%20Stewart%20and%20this%20week%E2%80%99s%20%E2%80%9CFourfer%E2%80%9D%20is%20Bob%20Marley. --- http://about.me/markcathcart Running a ReadyNAS NVX LMS Server, currently 77.2; Squeezebox Touch, Boom, Radio devices. Also using Squeezeplay on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2015 - Is the Squeezebox Universe Expanding of Shrinking?
I've exchanged a bunch of email with the founder of OnAir about adding LMS/Squeezebox support, provided a link to the source and he's said he'll look at it. I don't think it's quite what you were looking for, but if they add it to their current ios, android and web apps it might be interesting. I was really more hoping they'd get their kickstarter funded, but they cancelled it mid-stream and its not clear quite whats going on https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onairplayer/onair-box I'd certainly buy a few of these as backups and eventual replacements for my Boom, Radio and touch if they fail. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102809 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Setup/Configuration
mherger wrote: > > > iTunes downloading them? > > -- > > Michael err, I'd rather cut off my right arm than use iTunes. I've no idea but some of them date back to when I did the first install of LMS using 7.4, I've now got LMS 7.7.2 which has been running pretty well minus the scanner problems since I installed it. Time to update. Asides from migrating the podcasts from mysb.com, is there anything else I should know about moving from 7.7.2 to 7.9? Where is the best place to read up? Thanks again for all the great help... cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay full screen
Marsupial wrote: > I know this is quite an old thread, but I used info in there to manage a > fullscreen skin for squeezeplay, that I think people could be interested > in. > > with the info mentionned here, I could re-enable the "fullscreen" skin, > but the skin wasn't working super nice. So I decided to alter it. Well, > I literally took another skin and put it inplace of the fullscreen one, > but replaced the skin at its intended size (of 800x600) > > I also tried at 1024*768 (only change the values in > FullscreenSkinApplet) and it worked good, but my intention is to put it > on a 800x600 screen. > Anyway, here's the files I modified and how it works. Oddly ennough, its > all-black-background. I figure some people might like it. For the record, this works well enough for me. I use a Squeezeplay 7.8.0 r328 build, with this skin, running on a WIN7 laptop with the lid closed and in a drawer beneath a 65-inch Samsung LCD TV running at 1920x1080 resolution. Its much more useful that the default skins. Thanks. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76548 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Setup/Configuration
mherger wrote: > > Follow-up question, when I upgrade and podcasts becomes an extension > > again, what happens to all my old subscriptions and especially the > MP3 > > files that are the actual podcasts? > > There's a feature to import mysb.com managed podcasts to the new > plugin. > > The data itself (mp3) never was stored. It's being streamed to the > player directly. Therefore there is nothing to loose. > > -- > > Michael Excellent. Which begs the question, prior to podcasts moving to mysqueezebox.com, were they stored locally? I ask because this is what started this whole thread off. I was browsing through folders on my ReadyNas, which is where I run my LMS, and there were hundreds of MP3 files from the podcasts I'd been listening to. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Setup/Configuration
bpa wrote: > What version of LMS ? > > Podcast used to be an extension up to about 7.5??. Then it became > supported through mysb.com (if you enable podcast extension in Extras > menu with this version you get problems). IIRC Then in order to prepare > for mysb.com going away - 7.9 (I think but perhaps 7.8) podcast again > became an extension and has no reliance on mysb.com That may well explain it then... I've not updated the server in a while, I'm out of town so can't check. I did though login to mysqueezebox.com and the podcasts their are a complete match. So that answers my original question, thank you. Follow-up question, when I upgrade and podcasts becomes an extension again, what happens to all my old subscriptions and especially the MP3 files that are the actual podcasts? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Podcast Setup/Configuration
TimT wrote: > LMS > Settings > Podcasts tab. Which is of course where you'd expect them to be, but they are not, hence the question. Here is what I see from the podcasts tab 16743 an here is what I see from players if I go myapps/podcasts 16744 +---+ |Filename: squeezeplay podcasts.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16744| +---+ cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Podcast Setup/Configuration
I've had my LMS running on a local ReadyNas for maybe 4+ years. Sometime back when I installed it I setup some podcasts, all but one still works. So I went to add a new podcast, and delete the old one, I just can't see how to do that! If I go here: http://192.168.1.3:9000/plugins/Extensions/settings/plugins/Podcast/settings/basic.html it shows me podcasts I don't have, and doesn't show me the podcasts I have. I'm confused... as far as I know, I've never used mysb.com How id I set these up, and how do I change them? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102562 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
Lestrad wrote: > Hello. I Have a Squeezebox Touch in the listening room - the only player > on the network. My music collection is located on a NAS, on which LMS is > installed. I've installed SqueezePlay on my PC (Windows 7 x64) in my > office and synchronized it with the Touch in LMS so that I can listen to > the same music on both rooms. The problem is that since I've installed > SqueezePlay and synchronized, at random points in a song the players > suddenly stop and jump to the end of the last file in the play list. > I've tried three albums so far and it's happened twice. Do you have any > idea how I can find the cause of the problem? > > Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this - I tried your version to > see if it would make a difference, but alas it hasn't. > > Anyway thanks for your work. If I could get it to work it would be > great. > --- > (Later) It just happened again and immediately afterwards the NAS was > unreachable on the network. So the behavior might be related to > something interrupting the connection to the network - like an > antivirus. I'm looking into it and will report back. > (Still later) It seems that Avast Webshield, which I have installed, is > responsible. A solution is referenced here: > http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=144058.0 > I added the lines to the .ini as instructed and it seems to have worked. I've had similar problems withe Squeezeplay on two different Windows 7 x64 laptops. One has been attached to my home theatre system and installed for nearly 4-years without problem. The only things that get changed are Windows Update, and the latest Avast antivirus. The other player is on my work issued laptop, Windows 7 x64, this time protected by McAfee. Both are only ever used on a private home network, with either radio or mp3/music from a NetGear ReadyNAS LMS. Both are syncronized in a ring with 4x Logitech hardware players. I mostly only use the worklaptop as a remote when I'm sat out on the front porch, I started it tonight, and the syncronized music started playing on the lpatop, but the player wouldnt connect to the LMS. I had to add security rules for both players in order to get them to work. FYI, somethings changed in both Antivirus programs to make this happen. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: > > > Keeping it a separate electronics box and power supply SEEMS like a > good thing at first glance, but over all it will probably be a lot > easier and actually cheaper to have a two box solution. > > John S. So, something that was compatible with the SB Touch power supply, or a common Dell laptop type power brick would be very useful since these can be picked up cheap from RadioShack and even used electronics stores. Is that what you had in mind? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
erland wrote: > This sounds kind of similar to the issues Spicefly Voyager plugin was > designed to solve: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95212-Announce-Spicefly-Voyager-%28Take-Playlists-on-the-move%29 > Might be worth to take a look at it. Hmm I don't think it will work, since the actual file structure on my RAID array is root/data/userid/media/music and on my laptop with Windows 7 C:\Users\Mark_Cathcart\Music and in the car it would be different again. I guess I could write editor macros called laptop, car_sd, car_hd etc. to post process. I guess what I was thinking of in my head was creating profile driven playlists. ie somewhere on a SB, either on a SB Touch which has an SD slot(can it write on read only?) or on the LMS, to select a playlist and choose export to "profile" either laptop, car_sd, car_hd etc. But thinking about it, to export to the laptop it would have to be laptop initiated, ie copy from the file server and change the path. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
1. What kind of device would you like to use when creating the playlists ? - A computer - A tablet - A smart phone - A Logitech Controller, Radio or Touch display - A IR remote - Something else I own a Radio, Touch, Boom and use SqueezePlay, I also have an Android controller app on a 7-inch tablet. I've not found any of these conducive to creating long playlists from a large music selection. In fact, I find the differences in UI between the touch, boom and radio, when you can/can't get to the playlist etc difficult to use playlists at all, and so I have not. Also, since I moved music from a PC to a RAID array at the sametime I seriously started using the LMS, all my old playlists were rendered useless as they had PC based absolute file locations ie C: and D: etc. - Yes I know I could have edited them, but I also reorganized my folder structure when moving. So, I find my way here because I want to start creating playlists again that are based on a collection of tracks from different genres, bpm etc. I have 3x laptops, the main one used for music has a Dell Inspiron 17inch touch screen and is actually my media center, however, it is Windows 7 based and as of today wouldn't be that useful, even though it does support touch screen, it would be difficult to rapidly assemble a playlist from folders etc. So, I guess my current choice would be traditional Windows 7 laptop with a mouse. 2. How do you decide what should be part of a playlist ? - By selecting the individual tracks you want to include - By selecting the albums you want to include - By selecting the artists you want to include - By automatically selecting 100 tracks that matches some search criteria (genre, ratings, ...) - Something else Probably individual tracks, buy having tracks presented based on type/genre might be useful, BPM or somesuch would be more useful than human tagging. I'd then edit, re-organize and save. 3. How do you decide which order the tracks should have in the playlist ? - Random ordered tracks - Random ordered albums - Drag and drop albums to put them into the right order - Drag and drop tracks to put them into the right order - Something else I'd like to drag and drop, then maybe randomize and finally move into a specific order. ie to start the playlist I'd like to just drag and drop them into a playlist, so if I picked 3 tracks from a single album that would be one drag and drop; then if I wanted to split up the 3x tracks and mix them amongst all the others in the playlist, randomize; finally I'd want to tweak the playlist by dragging and dropping within the playlist. 4. What's the most frustrating limitation with SBS/LMS playlist management today ? - That it doesn't support relative paths in playlist files which are scanned - That it's too hard to reorder tracks in existing playlists - That it's too hard to create completely new playlists - Something else All the above. I regularly find myself trying to create a playlist on the radio, getting 4-5 tracks into it and then managing to delete/overwrite it somehow. 5. What kind of device would you like to use when modifying existing playlists ? - A computer - A tablet - A smart phone - A Logitech Controller, Radio or Touch display - A IR remote - Something else I'd like to be able to tweak the playlist using either a Logitech player or a laptop. 6. What kind of modifications do you usually do on already existing playlists ? - Reorder tracks in the playlist - Remove tracks, albums or artists from the playlist - Add new tracks, albums or artists to the playlist - Something else I think mostly remove tracks. When I've put 30/50/100 tracks in a playlist I'm not 100% sure of all the tracks, so I play the playlist and then would like to remove the tracks I don't like. Is there anything else than the above you feel is important to take into consideration if anyone would like to improve the playlist management ? I must admit, if the LMS server UI had somelike the dropbox web ui where I could drag from Windows folders onto the UI, one or more than one track and then reorder, randomize and save using the LMS server UI, that would be great. One thing that I'd really, really, really like is top take a playlist on the LMS Server, and be able to export the playlist and tracks to an SD card, harddrive etc. and have the playlist work because it uses relative pathnames. In my case I have some 6,500 MP3 files, my media PC has an SD card slot and USB drives, my car audio system also has an SD card slot, and a USB hard drive port, I'd love to be able to export a playlist and the tracks, and just plug-into the car and play... Much of my music is acquired using the laptop I'm on now. It goes pretty much everywhere with me, so for example, I just bought an MP3 album from amazon. I'd like to be able to copy that folder over to my home music collection with a playlist that starts in album order and can have tracks re-ordered, or removed as needed on the laptop and later on via the L
Re: [slim] Creating Playlists
As per the notes in the wiki, XSPF support in the future would be useful. XSPF seems to be gaining traction in the open software players like videolan. http://xspf.org/quickstart/ cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Creating Playlists
Thanks, you make some good points, seems in some ways we are going in opposite directions though. I would like to go ahead and create some playlists, although some of what I want to achieve could be done by re-tagging the original MP3's for example with a track number, that isn't the direction I want to go down I'll have a look and see if I can get videolan to create m3u files using drag and drop and then save the playlist into a location where the LMS can find them. cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Creating Playlists
I have all my music stored on a network attached RAID array, over 6000 tracks. I'd like to create some playlists now, I've never much used them in the past for either Squeezebox or other MP3 players. What are people using to create playlists and save them away? I assume something that would be Windows compatible and allow drag and drop and then saving the playlist away... or are using something else?? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
I'll show my public love too. I bought a Boom and sync'd it with a server running on a media center Windows based laptop. Saw the potential for it, bought a readynas RAID array and switched the server to there; put the SqueezePlay client on the media center. So I have Squeezeplay in my mainroom downstairs, I have a loft style striaght through house, no rooms downstairs just a big open space. The mediacenter laptop is connected to a Bose Lifestle Home Theatre System. Next up I bought a Touch to attach to the BOSE Wave Radio in my Bedroom, and a Radio for the guest bedroom and to become the portable with a rechargeable battery. I use the boom in the garage where I do a lot of my cycling sessions and weight training. I then bought a Netgear N6400 router and set-up 3-seperate wifi channels, including one dedicated to music streaming... This is now my major entertainment system, I rarely watch just TV/cable. My wants. It would have been great to have a quality home theatre system, similar to the Bose that would have hosted the Logitech Music Server with extendable storage options, ie that could front-end a RAID array. This would have significantly simplified the cabling setup. I'd like a Touch that is waterproof and has a built in amp for outdoor/deck use, that could be used with passive outdoor speakers. Passive only because it reduces the complexity of set-up and cabling. Like many others, I'd like to think there was a new boom coming which is a radio with two spears for stereo, but also has SD card slot for local playback. I'm not bothered by the lack of an FM radio. It would be good if this new "radio/boom" had a take-away menu that you could save items for takeaway much the same as a favorite... cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with BBC London live stream
I agree, I made debugging more complicated by trying numerous things to get it working again, however, something created the initial problem, which I guess was a problem with the AAC feed for that particular BBC station. I then started changing and just confused things. Either that, or one time when I selected the favorite I had stored on the radio button wasn't for the iPlayer, the Squeezeplay wasn't started, and not synced and the WMA feed was started and then when I started the squeezeplay and it tried to sync. Whatever, my apologies. I appreciate the clarifications and help I got here on the use of the SqueezePlay software with the readyNAS. That helps my understanding. So here is what I've done. Cleared the favorite for the BBC from the server; cleared the favorite from the SB Radio. Got the BBC London channel playing on the Squeezeplay, via the iPlayer app running on the ReadyNas. Created a favorite on for it on the Server. Synced the touch, radio, boombox to the Squeezeplay and now everything has been working for 36-hours or so. One final question. The iPlayer app has an option for AAC > FlashAAC > FlashMP3 > WMA - as a non-UK user, should I change this to AAC > FlashAAC thus ensuring a WMA stream is never started and so I'll always be able to sync, or will get nothing? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with BBC London live stream
I'm outside the UK too, Austin TX. I assumed there must have been a change somewhere since I've had this setup working, since 12/2010. I first bought the ReadyNas and a Boom, then added the Touch, then the SqueezePlay and finally a radio. They've all worked, all synced for at least 18-months. The Squeezeplay has always run on WIN7. It's baffling, although see below. Maybe I was using the iPlayer app and somehow managed to change the favorite, or possibly BBC London stopped for a brief time transmitting AAC, looking at the options for the iPlayer app it has a selection of formats shown as AAC > FlashAAC > FlashMP3 > WMA and does selection using preferred from left to right. Certainly using the mms uri posted in the above, it returns a stream based on Windows Media Audio 9.1 48 kbps, 44 kHz, mono 1-pass CBR when run from a Windows based browser. I assume the is the ReadyNas server saying what you said, it can't convert to WMA? I've got the iPlayer app installed on the ReadyNas. Using that I can navigate Internet Radio; iPlayer; Listen Live; BBC Local Radio; BBC London and it plays on the Radio, checking it reports: File Format: AAC Bitrate: 32kbps CBR URL: rtmp://cp80234.live.edgefcs.net:1935?app=bGl2ZT9fZmNzX3Zob3N0PWNwODAyMz(etc... and I've been able to sync up great, except the boom which is out in the garage, and I'll try and connect that later. So I guess I'll be ok so long as I start the stream via iPlayer. Thanks again for your feedback, that helped me it at least get it going again by forcing me to look at the stream formats... cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with BBC London live stream
bpa wrote: > If you sync with a number of player incl. a software player such as > Squeezeplay - then the stream has to be converted to a format which the > least capable player can play. WMA is not a native format for > Squeezeplay. > > If the BBC stream was WMA and you tried playing on a Squeezeplay > software player - then it will not play unless you have some sort WMA > transcoding support on the ReadyNAS and IIRC there is no transcoding > support on ReadyNAS. Thanks. Hmm, I guess from that we can deduce that for what ever reason, the BBC Radio London has stopped or converted from what ever stream it had to WMA only now. Which would explain why all the other BBC Radio streams worked and this one didn't. It's interesting that the Squeezeplay can't handle WMA, since its the only player running on a native Windows platform. I assume by extrapolation that if I can find a stream that will work on the Squeezeplay that I can then resync them all and it will work. Hopefully BBC London is in some error kinda of situation and will eventually restart. Finally, is there a way I can test or establish what streams are available for any given site/station? Are they listed anywhere? IS there a discovery tool? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with BBC London live stream
bpa wrote: > Are the player synced ? > When you select BBC London are you using your local LMS or connected to > mysb.com ? Yes, synced between all four and running local using the server on the readynas. I tried individual players and they work if not synced, thanks. Any clues on what has stopped the synced players from working? cathcam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43414 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95210 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problems with BBC London live stream
I have a Squeezebox boom, play and touch, and the Jive/SqueezePC, all
have been working off a ReadyNas running Squeezeserver Version: 7.5.2 -
r31632 since December 2010.
My usage is 60% my local music, 40% live streaming on iplayer recordings
on BBC Radio London. Recently the livestreaming has failed. I can still
get almost any other BBC station, both local and national streamed and
all the iPlayer recordings of BBC London shows seem to work. If I paste
the URL's below into my PC browser, they stream ok so this isn't, or
doesn't seem like a BBC problem.
I get one of a couple of errors depending on how I try to stream the BBC
London station. using my Squeezebox radio, I select Internet Radio;
then world; find a city; then europe; then United Kingdom; then London;
All stations; finally BBC Radio London, which resolves to this link
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s24849 which returns an m3u file
containing this link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/bbclondon.asx - this generates a
an error on the Radio something to the effect of Problem: Unable to play
file type...
Looking in the server log I get
[12-05-17 14:40:36.1589] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Error: Couldn't
create command line for wma playback for
[mms://wmlive-nonacl.bbc.net.uk/wms/england/lrlondon?BBC-UID=941db324b14fcd2fcad5bf81f1d030e8fc9c5f069050115404cf3aafd5717cdc&SSO2-UID=]
Can anyone help with this? Any ideas? I've also tried playing it live
via the iPlayer app, similar problems but a different error. The only
other error I have in my log files is as follows, are these related?
[12-05-15 16:00:44.7112] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (82)
Error: DBI Connection failed: DBI
connect('database=slimserver','slimserver',...) failed: Can't connect to
local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 950
[12-05-15 16:00:44.7124] Slim::Schema::Storage::throw_exception (82)
Backtrace:
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