Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
Having looked at the project, I recognise the screens and the Android remote app as being Frontier Silicon. Currently used by Roberts Radio, Ruark, Revo and many others. Being the owner of two Roberts Stream 93is, I can say that its a very capable system and streams well from a NAS. I liken the 93i to my Boom, perhaps not quite the sound quality but portable and battery / mains powered. And I can control them via LMS using the UPNP / DLNA Bridge plugin. I expect the Duetto to be a nice piece of kit, although there are very similar items on the market already (Ruark R2i). Rob robt2379's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38068 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
They do inlude a real FM radio and DAB . Have screen and works independently of any phone or tablet But they are DLNA devices :( can possible be saved by philippes bridges plugins Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
And it is not a product yet. Just a kickstarter project. I like the description of kickstarter as "you take the same risks as a VC, but have no control and no upside". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
While they aren't the prettiest of devices, what makes them interesting to me are: the inclusion of a screen - to see exactly what is playing the inclusion of favorite buttons - to instantly be able to choose a favorite radio station the inclusion of Google Cast - which makes streaming from a variety of additonal services easy (along with LMS if Phillipe's plugin will work with it) Of all the products out there that offer networked music playback it is startling to me how few offer a simple screen or favorite button. I haven't decided if I will back the project yet as I am in the middle of upgrading my home theater and my wallet can only handle so much stress but I do hope they will be around for when my Boom finally bites the dust. usc95's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59694 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
It did mention sync. But otherwise I'd rather trawl ebay for used sqb.. the only additional thing I'd like there is a Bluetooth audio- like capability to throw audio from my mobile device. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
Well, they're certainly ugly as sin. More importantly, I didn't see anything about streaming from a personal library located on a server/PC, nor anything about having multiple units playing in sync. If they don't do that, they're worthless to me. Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
"Retro" design nonsense. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
usc95 wrote: > Looks like the founder of Tivoli has started a new company making radios > that would likely appeal to Boom and Radio lovers: > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/819585793/solo-and-duetto-one-touch-music-streaming-with-hif > > If only Logitech had more foresight. I wonder if Philippe can get his > castbridge plugin to work with these things. Awful aesthetic design! Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Radio O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers UPnPBridge - Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8 speaker UPnPBridge - Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker UPnPBridge - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE Jongo S3x speaker Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio SB Player - Fire TV --- VOTE - R E M A I N castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Boom and Radio...what could have been...
Looks like the founder of Tivoli has started a new company making radios that would likely appeal to Boom and Radio lovers: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/819585793/solo-and-duetto-one-touch-music-streaming-with-hif If only Logitech had more foresight. I wonder if Philippe can get his castbridge plugin to work with these things. usc95's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59694 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105726 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
+1 for the BOOM. Why limit yourself to a single speaker, when you can get a pair for merely a few more $ when they're on sale? The Radio's colour display is nice, but I'd take the extra speaker over it any day. Battery could be useful though... -- apn 1x Duet 3x BOOM SBS on WHS w/ 8TB storage apn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35030 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Boom or Radio
Morning to all. I currently have a Duet (for a year or so) and have happily had no problems of note. I am now looking to expand for something for the kitchen. My question / choice therefore is what is best - Radio or Boom? Also - of course we have microwave's etc in the kitchen - will they affect wifi reception? (the router is in the room directly above the kitchen). Appreciate any thoughts SteveSpur -- STEVESPUR STEVESPUR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
Hi Steve, I have a Boom in the kitchen and find it excellent. It delivers a fullsome sound and has two speakers giving stereo as oppose to the Radio's mono speaker. The radio has a colour screen which may appeal if you use apps like Facebook etc. The Boom has nice big buttons etc which is handy in the kitchen and I tend not to use my controller. When my Boom is connected to my squeezebox it will cut out if my microwave is on but doesn't when connected to Squeezeserver. I read the forums and undrstand that this may be peculiar to Panasonic microwaves (which ours is) and may not be an issue with other brands. In summary there is no bad choice there. Enjoy Mal -- heliboymal heliboymal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20683 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
I have both a Boom and a Radio. The Boom acts as a bedside alarm clock and the Radio is in the kitchen. Given the choice again I'd opt for a Radio for the following reasons: - Seems to have better wifi reception. I've used it in the garden and not had buffer issues whereas the Boom often seems to drop out - Adding a battery to the Radio makes a good product into an awesome product, as I said I can quite happily use it in the garden and the bttery easily last for several hours - Easily portable so you can take it wherever you want whilst the Boom always needs to be close to a power socket and will have to boot up on connection The pros for the Boom are: - Slightly better sound quality from the two speakers - More options available through Squeezebox server - Prefer the VFD display HTH Paul -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
We have a Duet and a Boom and have been happy with them. One note on the microwave issue. Our microwave is halfway between the SBR and the router. (About 20 feet from each, with a couple of walls, too.) We had problems when the microwave was on until that microwave died and we bought a new GE. No problems at all with the new one, so it definitely varies with the model. -- kc5f kc5f's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
depends on the size of the kitchen. The boom has more, well, boom. It sounds fuller. But this might overwhelm a smaller room. As for the stereo, the speakers are very close. There is a small area where you actually have a stereo effekt. orthogonal to the box and not to far away. If you move around in the kitchen, you won't be in the sweet spot too often. -- fragfutter You're obviously not a Linux person. If you were, you'd know that the most important feature of a GUI is the icon that opens a shell window. fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
I have a Panasonic microwave as well and it does cause wifi problems (even though the router is nearby). Easily solved by using powerline Ethernet rather than wifi. I have Booms and a Radio. I have a Boom in the kitchen and I think it is a better choice than the Radio for the kitchen. With two sets speakers the Boom can go that much louder. In the kitchen with the extractor fan, the main oven and the microwave running in convection oven mode the Radio would struggle. As it is I have the Boom turned most of the way up in that situation when listening to speech radio. Luckily both the Boom and Radio can be turned right up without any sign of distortion, unlike your typical small audio equipment. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
STEVESPUR;542513 Wrote: ... the router is in the room directly above the kitchen ... If your router is directly above the kitchen unit, you might have some transmission issues depending on the router you're using (or more specifically the router's antenna orientation). -- eganders eganders's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
I would say either would work well. I currently have a Boom for my kitchen, and a Radio for my bedroom. As mentioned, both have different benefits. If you had both, you could figure out which works best for your Kitchen, and use the other someplace else. (You should know if you follow these forums at all that squeezeboxes multiply like rabbits, so you'll likely end up with at least one of each eventually, so why wait!) -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
I also have a Boom and a Radio. The Boom is in the kitchen and I personally prefer it that way. Louder than the Radio which can help with the noise often generated in the kitchen. The bracket is perfect for mounting under a cabinet so no work space is interfered with. Comes with a remote that has a magnetic back, sticks to the fridge ;O) Currently, the Boom has no software issues. My radio usually lasts about two days before I have to reinstall the firmware to get it going again. Been like this since I got it at the beginning of this year. I still like my Radio (when it works) and find that good for the bedside as it is smaller. Though it lacks backlit buttons which the Boom has and would be handy. So, I recommend the Boom for the kitchen. -- Justme Justme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio
I would say go for the Boom. Unless the kitchen is really small and you don't have the space for Boom's slightly larger footprint, and are 100% sure you won't need the Boom's bigger sound. I think the Boom's sound is much better than the Radio's, and you can also read the display easily from across the room. You can also tailor the Boom's sound more (bass, treble, StereoXL), which can be a plus in a kitchen, where the acoustics are almost guaranteed to suck. As others have mentioned, the Boom will also do better competing with the various and sundry noises encountered in a kitchen. As for the microwave, it depends in part on how leaky the microwave is. It shouldn't be very leaky. The SB2 in our kitchen is wired ethernet, but the SB Controller sits about 10cm from the microwave and it never visibly drops out. Of course, a Controller moves a lot less data than a player, so as usual, YMMV. -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it, and it's '100% wind powered' (http://www.cleancurrents.com/). MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) feeding: Living room: SB Touch + SBC NAD C325 BEE Vandersteen 1; Kitchen/Dining: SB2 + SBC AudioSource Amp100 2 pair of Polk RC60i; Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Bedroom: Boom and SB Radio; Backyard: Duet AudioSource Amp100 Polk Atrium 45; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB3 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
Initial the Radio is good, but in a few years the kids will like the superior soundquality of the Boom. -- raven22 Setup: 1 SB3, 3 Booms and 1 Radio. Server: SheevaPlug running Debian 6.0 Squeeze on SD-card with SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0 raven22's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
The Boom has metal speaker grilles which can be easily removed and cleaned. The Radio has a cloth speaker grille. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
Hi, I can't make up my mind, what is best suited for young children, Boom, Radio? At the moment my daughter (age 8) is using a Boom in her room and soon I want to equip my sons room (he's 4). My daughter uses presets for favorit radio and playlists, sometimes she also uses the navigation to find music although multiple libraries would be a help (I'm crossing my fingers for next version). My son will only use presets or someone else will help him find the music he wants to listen to. I wonder if the color screen of the Radio would help them or just make things more complicated. And, is the mono-sound good enough to fill a small room (13m3) ? I havn't heard the Radio yet. Any ideas? comments? Cheers, Letten -- Letten Duet - Audioengine A5 Classic - Sony surround reciever - Jamo 5.1 Speakers / JBL 120Ti 2 Boom's SC 7.4.1 on Laptop running Windows XP Linksys WRT54G wireless router Letten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
Letten;518536 Wrote: Hi, I can't make up my mind, what is best suited for young children, Boom, Radio? At the moment my daughter (age 8) is using a Boom in her room and soon I want to equip my sons room (he's 4). My daughter uses presets for favorit radio and playlists, sometimes she also uses the navigation to find music although multiple libraries would be a help (I'm crossing my fingers for next version). My son will only use presets or someone else will help him find the music he wants to listen to. I wonder if the color screen of the Radio would help them or just make things more complicated. And, is the mono-sound good enough to fill a small room (13m3) ? I havn't heard the Radio yet. Any ideas? comments? Cheers, Letten Radio is plenty loud enough to fiil that room! ( I presume your son is not into heavy metal yet...) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
I bought a Radio for my 3 month old son's room - I know he's pretty young but I needed a reason to pick one of these up. The sound is great for such a small box. Personally I like the Boom display better than the Radio. The colour screen is nice, but I can't operate it with a IR remote if I am more than a few feet away. -- johnas johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
We have a Radio in our baby's bedroom and its fills the space very well. Having the hair dryer sound effect as a preset was a godsend in those early months. -- youngml2009 youngml2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32079 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or Radio for childrens room
For preschool operation album art is the killer feature that should make you choose the Radio IMO. If you can get a combo of plugins to allow all albums of genre:Children be shown by the click of a preset-button, the kid can choose his music based on the way the album cover looks like. I know my 3½ year old knows lots of albums by the look of the cover. By the way, if you get that working, please post the method here. I would like that kind of functionality, but I haven't really bothered investiging what it takes. -- Muele BR Mogens 1 Radio, 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad. Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75434 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or radio in motorhome
thanks for the reply. I tether when wifi not available using a Cradlepoint router. If park wifi is offered your solution is worth a try. Also looking at a deliberant AP. Idea is trying to get auto switching to wifi when not tethering. Anyway, what a fun hobby this has become...many thanks... -- reedvb reedvb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31770 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or radio in motorhome
Bwa. You can get to your music from anywhere. You will need to know your home IP and a few other things. P -- pski real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them) pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or radio in motorhome
I've got an Asus WL-520 wireless router (clone of the Linksys WRT) with dd-wrt installed on it. I've set it up as a wireless bridge (so it's a client of some other wireless network and serves up a connection to that other wireless network to its own clients). You can also set the MAC it uses. So... it seems as though you could use a laptop to accept terms, then turn your router/bridge on (with its MAC set to be the same as your laptop). The Squeeze gear just always connects as a client to your router/bridge. I've done this, but just to extend range (the Asus router can connect to wireless networks that my notebook can't - too weak). I originally thought I'd need a directional antenna, but the standard omni that comes with it works fine. Oh - and if you were, for some reason, limited to only one MAC connecting to a wireless network, well, all your clients would appear as the router/bridge MAC This particular router wants 5VDC. The Linksys WRT uses 12VDC. I went with the Asus as it makes a better travel / hotel router (packs smaller, router + power supply's a good deal lighter), but if you're on 12V... -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Boom or radio in motorhome
Am I missing something here? Plan on traveling in a motor home , wondering when I use campgrounds or areas with wifi, will the radio or boom connect? Will use a cradlepoint router when tethering. Thanks for any repies. Have a Duet at home and love it. -- reedvb reedvb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31770 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Boom or radio in motorhome
reedvb;514924 Wrote: Am I missing something here? Plan on traveling in a motor home , wondering when I use campgrounds or areas with wifi, will the radio or boom connect? Will use a cradlepoint router when tethering. Thanks for any repies. Have a Duet at home and love it. It should work fine as long as the WiFi signal is strong enough and does not require any WiFi login or acceptance of terms verification (SB players cannot see these nor respond to these). -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75021 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss