Re: [slim] Linux
w3wilkes wrote: > It should run Win10 about the same as it runs 7. Either way I'd upgrade > your RAM to 8GB. The biggest and most notable speed improvement I've > seen is going to a SSD system drive, it's like night and day difference. I agree entirely. Swap out the HD for an SSD drive and that will easily run W10 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
It should run Win10 about the same as it runs 7. Either way I'd upgrade your RAM to 8GB. The biggest and most notable speed improvement I've seen is going to a SSD system drive, it's like night and day difference. Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
d6jg wrote: > You will be surprised at what W10 will actually run on. It (along with > SSD) has turned some of my old kit into perfectly usable machines. > > I would forget about dual boot. Keep your Windows desktop for your > online banking etc but upgrade it to W10. Get a Raspberry Pi as Ronnie > has and stick piCorePlayer and LMS on it. > > Where are your music files held ? would this spec of my desktop run windows 10 ? +---+ |Filename: windows 7 specs.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26953| +---+ NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > which is the best ? The one that fit all your needings and you can operate. DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Roland0 wrote: > It should be noted that about all home user's requirements regarding > word processing and spreadsheets are easily met by free office suites > like 'LibreOffice' (https://www.libreoffice.org/) or 'FreeOffice' > (http://freeoffice.com/) (which both run on Linux - as will any > cloud-based solution, if that's your cup of tea). > Further reading: 'Dont waste your money on Office 2019 (says > Microsoft)' > (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3340227/microsoft-office/don-t-waste-your-money-on-office-2019-says-microsoft.html) which is the best ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
freelsjd wrote: > I have been using linux since 1994 when Win-95 was released and I was > sick of the blue screen of death from Win-3.1. Never looked back. For > beginners, I recommend Mint or Ubuntu-LTS distribution, but I use > Debian. Lots of choices with Linux, so if you want it to look like > Windows-7 go ahead. I recommend that you dual boot for a while until > you become comfortable using linux. Since you have stuck with Windows-7 > all these years, you may not be comfortable using linux. Another > suggestion is to just unplug your Windows-7 from the global network and > only use the LAN (to run LMS), and not worry about updates from > Microsoft and let this be your LMS machine. Then get another machine > entirely and install Windows-10, linux, or whatever, until you get it > setup like you want. Then decide if you want to transition to the new > machine, or just keep running LMS on your old one. I have thought about > a NAS machine myself, which is basically a linux server, and use that as > a dedicated LMS server. Lots of options... I think this is along the lines of the question I have just asked ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
sort of. What I mean is will it convert everything, or open them in the same way, or will I lose files ? There is so many alternatives here to try. I'm thinking of installing linux onto my windows 7 PC now, even though I've got 10 months left, then just suck it and see, work it through as I go. One thing I haven't mentioned, is that my current BT modem is hard wired to the squeezebox using a Broadband Extender Flex 600 kit and 2 plugs in the wall. Does this mean I could actually use my old XP laptop connected direct to the squeezebox if it was in the same room eliminating the need for wifi ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Do you mean... Will a Linux install overwrite your docs, excel, jpg's, etc. Like a Windows from scratch install typically formats the drive erasing everything. Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and Squeeseslave Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 7.9.1 Official on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > Ok which of these would you say is best > That really depends on your requirements and personal preferences. I'd suggest installing both and trying your typical workflows / use cases to see which one you prefer. > > and do they both overwrite ALL my current word and excell documents > inclyding older ones ? > Not sure I follow - installing an office suite will not overwrite any documents > > I also mean jpegs etc . > ? SW: 'Web UI for LMS' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98186-Announce-Alternative-Web-Interface-(beta)) | 'Playlist Editor / Generator' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108199-Announce-LMS-Playlist-Editor) | 'Music Classification' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108278-Announce-Essentia-Integration-music-classification-(moods-genres-)) | 'Similar Music' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108495-Announce-LMSmusly-play-similar-music) | 'LMSlib2go' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/sw/lmslib2go/) HowTos: 'build a self-contained LMS' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99648-Howto-build-a-self-contained-LMS) | 'Ogg Opus' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107011-Howto-play-Ogg-Opus-files) | 'Bluetooth/ALSA' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107230-Howto-Bluetooth-streaming-to-from-LMS-(ALSA-only-no-PulseAudio)) Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Build your own PC and download Windows 10 LTSC, which has far less bloat. Then go to ebay and buy a cheap activation code. That said, I ended up going back to 8.1...much faster and easy to remove the telemetry. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Just to add. I dont have a problem buying a new PC with W10 installed its just that I wanted to avoid having to install things all over again and ending up with another PC cluttering up the spare room etc NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Roland0 wrote: > It should be noted that about all home user's requirements regarding > word processing and spreadsheets are easily met by free office suites > like 'LibreOffice' (https://www.libreoffice.org/) or 'FreeOffice' > (http://freeoffice.com/) (which both run on Linux - as will any > cloud-based solution, if that's your cup of tea). > Further reading: 'Dont waste your money on Office 2019 (says > Microsoft)' > (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3340227/microsoft-office/don-t-waste-your-money-on-office-2019-says-microsoft.html) Ok which of these would you say is best and do they both overwrite ALL my current word and excell documents inclyding older ones ? I might start by changing over to these immediately as they are free NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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d6jg wrote: > No. I mean are your music files ON the PC or are they stored on a > separate drive or NAS etc. On the PC NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > well.I use word and excell, not a lot, but I have all sorts of > things I've used it for. Especially Word. > It should be noted that about all home user's requirements regarding word processing and spreadsheets are easily met by free office suites like 'LibreOffice' (https://www.libreoffice.org/) or 'FreeOffice' (http://freeoffice.com/) (which both run on Linux - as will any cloud-based solution, if that's your cup of tea). Further reading: 'Dont waste your money on Office 2019 (says Microsoft)' (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3340227/microsoft-office/don-t-waste-your-money-on-office-2019-says-microsoft.html) SW: 'Web UI for LMS' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98186-Announce-Alternative-Web-Interface-(beta)) | 'Playlist Editor / Generator' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108199-Announce-LMS-Playlist-Editor) | 'Music Classification' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108278-Announce-Essentia-Integration-music-classification-(moods-genres-)) | 'Similar Music' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108495-Announce-LMSmusly-play-similar-music) | 'LMSlib2go' (https://www.nexus0.net/pub/sw/lmslib2go/) HowTos: 'build a self-contained LMS' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99648-Howto-build-a-self-contained-LMS) | 'Ogg Opus' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107011-Howto-play-Ogg-Opus-files) | 'Bluetooth/ALSA' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107230-Howto-Bluetooth-streaming-to-from-LMS-(ALSA-only-no-PulseAudio)) Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > They are held in a word document, and I use mp3tag to label, categorize > and order them. No. I mean are your music files ON the PC or are they stored on a separate drive or NAS etc. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
d6jg wrote: > You will be surprised at what W10 will actually run on. It (along with > SSD) has turned some of my old kit into perfectly usable machines. > > I would forget about dual boot. Keep your Windows desktop for your > online banking etc but upgrade it to W10. Get a Raspberry Pi as Ronnie > has and stick piCorePlayer and LMS on it. > > Where are your music files held ? They are held in a word document, and I use mp3tag to label, categorize and order them. NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Linux via ubuntu works great on a lenovo laptop - a nice, trim, lean machine that has open office built in and is essentially virus proof. For surfing the web and editing office docs it's fantastic. But I wouldn't try to run lms on it. Get a Pi. All the hard work has been done for you. Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk doctor_big's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15196 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > how exactly do these linux distros not need security updates ? WHAAAT?? Forget that nonsense ASAP!! NE5 wrote: > so does running linux etc expose that in any way ? > > How long does it take to convert to linux, a few hours, longer ? As I > will need to be at home and allocate however long it might take rather > than leave the job halfway through. Buy a cheap rpi3 or nanopi4m and run that 24/7 for lms only. Dont mix your normal stuff with it and your fine. How long do you need to calculate the 17th position of pi? -> Depends on your math skills! Same as windows -> linux. And a cheap RPI is small and handy you can fiddle thing out everywhere. DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > well.I use word and excell, not a lot, but I have all sorts of > things I've used it for. Especially Word. > > Maybe a dual boot is better, but I'm toying with seeing if my desktop > will take windows 10 - I doubt it because now and again I get my screen > locking up and a message saying it is reverting to the basic windows 7 > driver and resets itself. > > I take it that if you dual boot into windows 7 then you wouldn't be > online , only if you boot into linux ? How do you switch over etc if > thats the case ? You will be surprised at what W10 will actually run on. It (along with SSD) has turned some of my old kit into perfectly usable machines. I would forget about dual boot. Keep your Windows desktop for your online banking etc but upgrade it to W10. Get a Raspberry Pi as Ronnie has and stick piCorePlayer and LMS on it. Where are your music files held ? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
freelsjd wrote: > Microsoft now offers through their "store" free linux installations > within Windows itself as an app. Ubuntu came first, but there are > several others now. Basically a bash environment. I have no idea how > good the graphical interface will work for this type of setup, but you > do not need that to run the LMS. > > I have a VM setup within my debian/linux server to run Windows 10 that > uses vmplayer from vmware. This allows me to run Windows-specific > software that is not available for linux such as quicken, office (excel, > word, powerpoint, etc.). This way you get the best of both worlds. well.I use word and excell, not a lot, but I have all sorts of things I've used it for. Especially Word. Maybe a dual boot is better, but I'm toying with seeing if my desktop will take windows 10 - I doubt it because now and again I get my screen locking up and a message saying it is reverting to the basic windows 7 driver and resets itself. I take it that if you dual boot into windows 7 then you wouldn't be online , only if you boot into linux ? How do you switch over etc if thats the case ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Microsoft now offers through their "store" free linux installations within Windows itself as an app. Ubuntu came first, but there are several others now. Basically a bash environment. I have no idea how good the graphical interface will work for this type of setup, but you do not need that to run the LMS. I have a VM setup within my debian/linux server to run Windows 10 that uses vmplayer from vmware. This allows me to run Windows-specific software that is not available for linux such as quicken, office (excel, word, powerpoint, etc.). This way you get the best of both worlds. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Steve I mostly use a old Windows Desktop which used to run dual boot XP and Windows 7 Pro. I changed to 8 and then took the free upgrade to 10. I just use the default Windows security. LMS is run on either a pi or an old Shuttle computer using a version of Debian Stretch which uses the pi Raspbian desktop. I have some Apple stuff but don't use it on a day to day basis. I do the normal on-line purchasing and some Bank stuff, I never use a mobile device for any buying or banking. If you just google "Linux and Security" you'll get a better idea. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Thanks for all the replies. I've got a bit of time to absorb all of this info so I'll take it however the overriding one at the moment, is how exactly do these linux distros not need security updates ? And it also seems a bit of an odd thing to me that microsoft hasn't tried to develop something to prevent it working ? Sorry if thats a bit naive. Ronniewhat do you use, and what are you planning to do , if not use the Pi ? I really don't want all this hassle tbh, I bank online (occasionally, more just for checking and transferring money to paypal etc) so does running linux etc expose that in any way ? How long does it take to convert to linux, a few hours, longer ? As I will need to be at home and allocate however long it might take rather than leave the job halfway through. NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
Thanks for all the replies. I've got a bit of time to absorb all of this info so I'll take it however the overriding one at the moment, is how exactly do these linux distros not need security updates ? And it also seems a bit of an odd thing to me that microsoft hasn't tried to develop something to prevent it working ? Sorry if thats a bit naive. Ronniewhat do you use, and what are you planning to do , if not use the Pi ? I really don't want all this hassle tbh, I bank online (occasionally, more just for checking and transferring money to paypal etc) so does running linux etc expose that in any way ? How long does it take to convert to linux, a few hours, longer ? As I will need to be at home and allocate however long it might take rather than leave the job halfway through. NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
I have only ever uses my SB software on Linux, never Windows. It's a headless Ubuntu VM running on my Windows server, with the music files actually held on the Windows box and mounted via /etc/fstab. It's worked reliably for..12 years? I have my install notes, if it helps, but it's dead easy and rock solid. jimwillsher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=410 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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There are many folks running LMS on lots of different flavors of Linux. it works great and has a lot of support on this boards. Just pick something fairly mainstream and you'll be fine. Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > just looking ahead to support for windows 7 stopping next year. > Alternatives and pitfalls etc. I don't want to change my desktop, in > fact I don't want to change anything !! Steve, with regard to LMS, it can all be done from a pi Raspbian Stretch with desktop, or piCorePlayer. Have a read of this https://www.howtogeek.com/266072/you-can-still-get-windows-10-for-free-with-a-windows-7-8-or-8.1-key/ or go for Mint (you can run a distro on live usb stick if you want to familiarise yourself or dual boot as mentioned above). ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
I have been using linux since 1994 when Win-95 was released and I was sick of the blue screen of death from Win-3.1. Never looked back. For beginners, I recommend Mint or Ubuntu-LTS distribution, but I use Debian. Lots of choices with Linux, so if you want it to look like Windows-7 go ahead. I recommend that you dual boot for a while until you become comfortable using linux. Since you have stuck with Windows-7 all these years, you may not be comfortable using linux. Another suggestion is to just unplug your Windows-7 from the network, and not worry about updates from Microsoft and let this be your LMS machine. Then get another machine entirely and install Windows-10, linux, or whatever, until you get it setup like you want. Then decide if you want to transition to the new machine, or just keep running LMS on your old one. freelsjd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4344 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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just looking ahead to support for windows 7 stopping next year. Alternatives and pitfalls etc. I don't want to change my desktop, in fact I don't want to change anything !! NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux
NE5 wrote: > Does anybody use Linux and Squeezebox classic ? Does it have any > problems with anything ? linux is a big field to dig - any chance of a more precise question? If you use a linux distri and that matches the needed Perl Version and architecture from a version of LMS why should we got a problem? DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Does anybody use Linux and Squeezebox classic ? Does it have any problems with anything ? NE5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110137 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux DLNA server software for logitech revue
For a light weight DLNA server, you can also check out http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/. It is a nice and simple C/C++ app. It will not do transcoding for you, but does what it does do very efficiently. I have to say I think DLNA is a poor way to distribute content when your used to something likse squeezeboxserver. Hopefully the Revue will get more options sometime down the road. -- Aslak3 (SB 2, SB Boom, SB Radio) Aslak3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31977 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux DLNA server software for logitech revue
We run minidlna with a few tweaks to make it run well on VortexBox. We are committed to makeing the best server for Logitech products. I can't weight to get my hands on a Logitech Revue for testing. We already have auto ripping for CDs. But I have been testing auto ripping DVDs to support the Revue. -- agillis rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] linux DLNA server software for logitech revue
Ok, admittedly this is a question not about squeezeboxes, but i was hoping that this community might be the best one to find an answer to my question. Its quite simple. I have no windows servers, all my squeezeboxes run on Linux, i love Squeezeboxserver, now i want to buy Logitech Revue boxes to also stream my video content to it, and supposedly i need some DLNA server for this that Logitech does not provide, so what would folks on this forum (in a similar situation) recommend ? There seem to be a bunch of options out there, but i have no idea how to compare them. -- te36 te36's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux DLNA server software for logitech revue
http://mediatomb.cc/ I run it on an Ubuntu box serving videos to my LG Blu-ray player. -- IceFusion IceFusion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15255 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux DLNA server software for logitech revue
I have no experience with DLNA, but it might be worth finding out which DLNA server is installed on the Vortexbox distro, which is based on Fedora. I imagine the Vortexbox folks gave some thought to choosing a DLNA server. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux audio to squeezebox
Hi, When I watch a movie on my laptop, it'd be neat to be able to send the audio to my speakers through the squeezebox. One way might be to install a second squeezeserver on the laptop and use the WaveInput plugin on that one. That seems like a bit of a hassle though. Would there be any other way of getting the audio from my laptop to the speakers? VLC can stream, but i'm not sure it can stream only the audio and show the video locally. mplayer can use separate output methods for audio and video - perhaps something with pulseaudio? -- raboof raboof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36822 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75960 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux audio to squeezebox
I don't think it is worth trying as you won't have audio and video synced. Although with mplayer you can adjust relative timing - it is unreliable. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75960 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux audio to squeezebox
AFAIK VLC can separate audio and video, and add delay to audio. But this is a manual setting, and I never got it to work exactly as I needed (works but too difficult to lip-sync) -- epoch1970 Daily dose delivered by: 2 SB Classic (fw 130), 1 SB Boom (fw 50) SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 (Debian 5.0) with plugins: ContextMenu, SaverSwitcher by Peter Watkins Server Power Control by Gordon Harris WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) FindArt, CDplayer by bpa BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple TrackStat by Erland Isaksson. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75960 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux audio to squeezebox
I got VLC to stream the audio and show the video locally, but, as the
others have said, it won't work very well. It's difficult to get the
sync right. Also, for some reason, VLC messed up the aspect ratio (and
perhaps other things) when using this method. Maybe that's solvable if
you can figure out its horrible interface.
In any case, this is the command I used:
vlc --sout
'#transcode{acodec=mp3,ab=256,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=http,mux=raw,dst=0.0.0.0:1337/vlcstream.mp3},select=novideo,dst=display,select=noaudio}'
--audio-desync -3100
And then open http://address.of.source/vlcstream.mp3 on the player. I
think --audio-desync -3100 was the value that worked best on my Boom.
(It's been a few months since I tried it, so I don't remember all the
details.)
As for PulseAudio, it doesn't sound like it has support for adjusting
the delay yet:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio-disc...@mail.0pointer.de/msg0.html
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Re: [slim] linux IR question
Thanks, I'll give them a try NS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux IR question
MS, Would it help if you converted your RC5 codes to raw format? (I don't have the applet installed) Regards, Chris -- chriscc chriscc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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... and looking at the LIRC conf file, I think your raw Volume Up code would look something like: 890 890 890 890 890 890 1780 890 890 1780 890 890 1780 1780 1780 890 890 890 890 890 890 890 113792 And Volume Down something like: 890 890 890 890 890 890 1780 890 890 1780 890 890 1780 1780 1780 890 890 890 890 1780 890 113792 Regards, Chris -- chriscc chriscc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] linux IR question
I'm trying to modify an applet for the Controller so I can use it to control my amp which for its IR control uses the RC-5 system address 19 (0x13). I can get half of each code from the link below but I can't work out what hex pre-data to add in front of each code in order to complete each of the commands. http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/meridian/MSR I'm not even sure that the Controller LIRC can work for RC5 type remotes. Can any LIRC experts help? Thanks MS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59351 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux acceptance curves
toby10 wrote: I'd bet the Linux less than 1% market share is mostly due to the learning curve that most of us 90% Windows users would have nightmares over (warranted or not): Windows = 90.66% Mac = 7.86% Linux = 0.93% As Benjamin Disraeli said, there are Lies, damned lies, and statistics I think, IMHO, etc. that these numbers are dated. OS-X is making huge advances in market share. And of course, one has to ask what market you are measuring. Linux is huge in embedded systems, for example every Tivo, every Linksys WRT54G router, etc. Its simple, the computer as toaster folks will never knowingly install Linux. They will never choose Linux. There is an active group on these forums to help folks with Unix and Linux. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux - Amarok, Squeezecenter MySQL
Is there any way you can access the Squeezecenter MySQL database from another Linux machine running Amarok which can remotely access a MySQL database. Obviously the databases structures are set up differently but is there any way to connect between the two structures on the squeezecenter machine. As there is a perfectly good squeezecenter database it seems silly to have to recreate one on another machine when possible remote access is/might/may be possible. Jim! -- jiml jiml's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17683 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50291 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
Thanks lads. I really am liking the idea of rsync as an alternative to SyncToy as a backup of my music RAID array, so will persevere to try and get it working... I've posted on a couple of other forums to find out whether the hardware I'm using is capable of running mount.cifs (that looks to be the simplest, if it's possible). But again - cheers for your help and advice, guys. Much appreciated! Dan. -- gutted http://www.last.fm/user/gutt3d/ Slimserver 6.5.4 +MusicIP Mixer 1.7.1 +AlienBBC 1.06 +Slimscrobbler 0.37.5 Windows 2000 Professional sp4 Intel Celeron 1.4GHz 512MB RAM Squeezebox 3 wireless (Player Firmware Version: 55) Library of approx 8800 tracks (MP3 and FLAC) gutted's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
The great thing about rsync is that it can work over an ssh tunnel. I use it that way to backup my Slug to the Slug at my parent's house. Poor man's offsite backup! It runs via a cron job using a keypair so it's totally automated. -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux help... using rsync
So - this isn't SB related, but wondering if anyone can give me some advice on how to efficiently backup my music drive? My music is on a Windows (2k) file server, but I recently bought a cheap NAS with a Linux OS. I'd like to use rsync to check for changes on the Windows file system, and then make any changes as required on the NAS. (Until now I've been using MS Synctoy, but Synctoy doesn't delete folders that have moved or been renamed - and you end up with loads of empty folders in the backup destination). Anyway - rsync looks good, but I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to Linux. I guess that the Linux OS can't read the Windows filesystem at the moment, and I'm expecting to have to mount the music drive within Linux. I've done some googling, but now yet found anything all that helpful. Can anyone give me a couple of pointers (e.g. a link to a tutorial, or even just general info)? Cheers in advance! (and sorry for asking such a blatantly non-SB question :) -- gutted http://www.last.fm/user/gutt3d/ Slimserver 6.5.4 +MusicIP Mixer 1.7.1 +AlienBBC 1.06 +Slimscrobbler 0.37.5 Windows 2000 Professional sp4 Intel Celeron 1.4GHz 512MB RAM Squeezebox 3 wireless (Player Firmware Version: 55) Library of approx 8800 tracks (MP3 and FLAC) gutted's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
I've done something similar in the past to back up the Music directory on my Linux based server (which I use to run SqueezeCenter) to the external USB drive connected to my Windows desktop. 1. Share the folder from your Windows machine. 2. Mount this to your Linux box mount.cifs //192.168.0.10/Slimserver /homerdrive/Slimserver -o user=nolan 3. Perform the rsync. The --delete flag also replicates deletions from the source. rsync -ar /home2/Slimserver/* /homerdrive/Slimserver --modify-window=10 --delete --progress 192.168.0.10 is my Windows machine and /homerdrive/Slimserver is the mount point for the Windows share I have created on my Linux machine. I'm doing something sightly different now as I bought a 1TB WD Netbook (as sold by PC World for £150) which after a few simple hacks turns into a tiny Linux server so my Windows box isn't involved any more but this backup method worked fine when I was doing it. -- nolan nolan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
nolan;296013 Wrote: I've done something similar in the past to back up the Music directory on my Linux based server (which I use to run SqueezeCenter) to the external USB drive connected to my Windows desktop. 1. Share the folder from your Windows machine. 2. Mount this to your Linux box mount.cifs //192.168.0.10/Slimserver /homerdrive/Slimserver -o user=nolan 3. Perform the rsync. The --delete flag also replicates deletions from the source. rsync -ar /home2/Slimserver/* /homerdrive/Slimserver --modify-window=10 --delete --progress 192.168.0.10 is my Windows machine and /homerdrive/Slimserver is the mount point for the Windows share I have created on my Linux machine. I'm doing something sightly different now as I bought a 1TB WD Netbook (as sold by PC World for £150) which after a few simple hacks turns into a tiny Linux server so my Windows box isn't involved any more but this backup method worked fine when I was doing it. Dude - you rule :) Thanks, man. And yep - I've done exactly same thing as you: I bought a WD MyBook World Edition (MBWE) 1TB drive for £150... I've already done the same as you and SSH'd into it and added Optware and then rsync (and a couple of other bits). Even after a firmware upgrade, the transfer speed is hellishly slow :( I'm hoping rsync might be a bit more efficient in backing up my music... Cheers again for your advice - I'll get onto that now. EDIT: I see that you've also decided to ditch compression... Me too :) It's one of the first things I read about when trying to reduce CPU usage on the MBWE, given that the transfer speed is already so poor. It's such a shame that the hardware can't actually cope with gigabit Ethernet speeds - but I guess at £150 I can't really complain... -- gutted http://www.last.fm/user/gutt3d/ Slimserver 6.5.4 +MusicIP Mixer 1.7.1 +AlienBBC 1.06 +Slimscrobbler 0.37.5 Windows 2000 Professional sp4 Intel Celeron 1.4GHz 512MB RAM Squeezebox 3 wireless (Player Firmware Version: 55) Library of approx 8800 tracks (MP3 and FLAC) gutted's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
maybe this can help? http://backupnetclone.sourceforge.net/ -- raven22 raven22's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
If you are going straight between two Linux machines you can do the rsync direct and forget about using shares To begin with I added the netbook into the /etc/hosts file on my Squeezecenter box 192.168.0.5 netbook I then added my own squeezebackup directory in the /shares/internal directory on the netbook: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internal]# pwd /shares/internal [EMAIL PROTECTED] internal]# ls -l total 40 drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data root 4096 Mar 24 15:26 BETH drwxr-xr-x 5 nolanroot 4096 Mar 27 2008 NOLAN drwxr-xr-x 11 nolanroot 4096 Mar 27 2008 PICTURES drwxrwxr-x 2 root www-data 4096 Dec 1 2006 PUBLIC drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Nov 12 14:14 lost+found drwxrwxr-x 6 nolannolan 4096 Apr 25 2008 squeezebackup Then I performed the rsync: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home2# rsync -ar /home2/Slimserver/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/shares/internal/squeezebackup --delete --progress [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Could not chdir to home directory /home/nolan: No such file or directory building file list ... 10297 files to consider deleting Media/Compilations/Clerks 2 Soundtrack/.02 - Talking Heads - Nothing But Flowers.flac.5k2Ux5 ./ Media/ Media/Compilations/ Media/Compilations/Clerks 2 Soundtrack/ Media/Compilations/Clerks 2 Soundtrack/02 - Talking Heads - Nothing But Flower.flac . and so on It is pretty slow but it's fine for a backup device and especially for 1TB at that price :) Let me know if you have any problems... cheers, Nolan -- nolan nolan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux help... using rsync
Another good backup application to use is BackupPC. You simply run this on your linux machine and it will backup all of your machines via CIFS or rsync. (Will backup windows, mac, linux) It does a copule of nice things that a simple rsync won't do: 1: If you have the same file on 2 computers, it only keeps one copy. 2: If you have a laptop, it will ping to know when it's back online, and start backups. 3: It keeps daily changes so you can restore files from a few days ago if you need them back. I use backuppc to backup my girlfriend's laptop, and in a colo space to backup linux servers. http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux-compatible USB FM radio?
htrd;200326 Wrote: Ive been using a radioshark for offline recording. ... Once set up it has been largely problem-free. It provides an ordinary ALSA input device which I have been using to record scheduled broadcasts using arecord, scheduled by cron. All very tidy. The only inconvenience is that the reception quality does seem to be quite sensitive to position. ... I am sampling at 48kHz and encoding as mp3, and audio quality is as good as I expect. Stereo FM broadcasts are band limited to 15kHz, and this ALSA input shows significant noise above that frequency. I noticed a worthwhile improvement in file size by configuring lame's lowpass filter at 15kHz. I hope that helps. That helps a lot, thank you! The low pass filter sounds especially smart. I've ordered a new RadioShark off eBay (Amazon had a good deal last week, but the price has more than doubled in the last week) and am looking forward to giving it a try. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux-compatible USB FM radio?
I'd like to listen to local FM through my Squeezeboxes. Rather than settle for the rotten 32k streams some local broadcasters offer, I'd like to have an FM radio capture device on my Linux-based Slimserver host so that I could stream local radio at 320k MP3 (probably using OSS or ALSA to feed DarkIce so I could stream locally with Icecast, as I've done with my sound card line-in for my old stereo). I'd prefer a USB device both to get the tuner away from the in-case RFI, and to allow use with a small form factor PC like a Mac Mini. Could anyone here who has used Linux USB FM radio capture devices offer some advice? Thanks, Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim BlankSaver BottleRocket FuzzyTime SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux x86_64 and AAC heartache....
I have been trying for weeks now to get my SlimServer (v6.5.0 now) to play aac .m4a files... Was using Gentoo, had that working no problems (until I upgraded slimserver!). Now, with new server in toe, running FC5 x86_64 I cannot for the life of me get it working! Does anyone have the exact stpes required to get it working? I have tried a bit of this, a bit of that But just don't get anywhere! Any help would be appreciated as then I may be able to finally get some sleep! Cheers, Eamon. -- eamon eamon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3580 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27811 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux Distributions
I found a thread on selecting the best Linux distribution for SlimServer. I'd like to start fiddling with Linux, so this thread was useful, but of more importance to me is starting out with the distribution that is friendly to beginners, such as myself. In order of importance: 1. Good documentation 2. Ease of installation 3. Good hardware compatibility 4. Runs SlimServer well I may never move SlimServer to Linux, I'm happy with it in Windows, but I'd like to keep the option open. Thanks in advance for the input. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22940 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux / iTunes / Mac using central library
I'm having difficulty getting SlimServer and iTunes to share a music library. I've got a Debian Linux box with SlimServer running on it and some shared disk space. I've got iTunes running on my iBook. The remote linux volume is mounted and I've told iTunes to use it as the iTunes music folder location. All my music is thus in a location where both SlimServer and iTunes can get at it. However, iTunes is still keeping the library metadata (/Users/username/Music/iTunes/iTunes Library and /Users/username/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml) locally on the iBook. I've seen folks mention using TweakUI / registry edits on Windows to trick iTunes into placing not just the music but also the library files themselves on a remote volume. But how do I do it on OS X? I suppose an work-around would be to set up a cron job to periodically copy the iTunes Music Library.xml from the iBook to the Linux box -- but then it'll never have the ability to make use of (future?) SlimServer features/plug-ins that push e.g. ratings/play counts/playlists back out to iTunes. Am I asking for too much? I thought I'd get to worry about multiple iBooks and disconnected operation before running to a wall! :-) -- Lorrin Lorrin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3886 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21010 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux Journal, January 2006: Build a Home Terabyte Backup System Using Linux
This article looks quite interesteing and informative and probably relevant... http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8590 I like the figure of $1.08/G with 3.2TB of storage. Although if you don't feel like doing it yourself then my local favourite server company is well worth a look:- http://www.dnuk.com/homepage.php (although one does have to question *why* one would need 17 terrabytes of usable disk space...) Alex ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux Audio Players (was Re: Attn: Ben Klaas - This American Life Parser)
bklaas wrote: Also, excited to hear that slimserver can play the URLs directly now. This means the playlists can be portable so I can use them elsewhere (in my case, on amarok, which if you are a linux user you should check out. I prefer it to all other audio players, including anything in the Win/Mac world) Amarok is very nifty, but unstable on my SuSE 9.3 laptop; I tend to try with it first, then switch to Juk if/when it crashes. -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux Newbie (i.e., 1 hour old) Question
I *just* installed Linux Mandrake 10.1. I figured out how to use the browser, downloaded and installed Slimserver, but I can't figure out how to control it from the computer. I ran the command line that starts Slimserver, the Squeezebox locates and connects to Slimserver, but I don't know how to get the Slimserver screen on either the server or a remote computer. ...one other newbie question. Will Linux be able to play the music on a NTFS formatted drive or do I have to find a way to transfer 200GB of music to a FAT system? Thanks. -- Frank L ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux Newbie (i.e., 1 hour old) Question
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 16:10 -0600, Frank L wrote: I *just* installed Linux Mandrake 10.1. Good. You probably will do better asking over on the specialized Unix Slimserver list, @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/unix but I can't figure out how to control it from the computer. I ran the command line that starts Slimserver, the Squeezebox locates and connects to Slimserver, but I don't know how to get the Slimserver screen on either the server or a remote computer. Your Mandrake box has some name, or at least IP address. You should be able to go to any browser in your network and enter the URL http://mandrakename:9000/ (replacing mandrakename with whatever your server's name is.) . Will Linux be able to play the music on a NTFS formatted drive or do I have to find a way to transfer 200GB of music to a FAT system? Linux can read NTFS file systems, but it can't write to them (at least easily) There are lots of alternatives, including plugging the NTFS drive into your Linux box, running Samba client, using FTP/SFTP It really depends on what you want to do. And I'd suggest using an EXT3 file system on Linux over either FAT or NTFS -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger
I don't remember the exact command, but something like id3v2 -l 11_*.flac came back: 11_Frogs.flac No tags found Or something like that. Most of these files (they're all flac) were ripped/tagged with dbPowerAMP and slimserver seems to be able to pull them out. So i just figured this tool (id3v2) was having issues reading them. From: Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:02:39 -0800 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:39:48 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good command-line tagger (I'm already using abcde to rip - just need something to use for the occasional fix).I've tried audiotool, id3v2 and id3tool but they don't seem to read the existing tags. id3v2 works perfectly for me - what do you mean by not reading the existing tags? It does for me - were your mp3's tagged with ape? I don't believe it understands ape tags - but it should work fine with existing ID3V1 or ID3V2 tags. -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:28:43 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't remember the exact command, but something like id3v2 -l 11_*.flac came back: 11_Frogs.flac No tags found Or something like that. Most of these files (they're all flac) were ripped/tagged with dbPowerAMP and slimserver seems to be able to pull them out. So i just figured this tool (id3v2) was having issues reading them. Flac doesn't use ID3 tags man metaflac -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger
Well, then that explains it. So then does anyone have a command-line metaflac tag editor or whatever which they would recommend for editting flac file tags? From: Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:46:36 -0800 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:28:43 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't remember the exact command, but something like id3v2 -l 11_*.flac came back: 11_Frogs.flac No tags found Or something like that.Most of these files (they're all flac) were ripped/tagged with dbPowerAMP and slimserver seems to be able to pull them out.So i just figured this tool (id3v2) was having issues reading them. Flac doesn't use ID3 tags man metaflac -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger
Nevermind -I think I get it. Metaflac IS that tool. Thanks for the info. From: "Michael Haan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:49:22 -0500 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss Well, then that explains it. So then does anyone have a command-line metaflac tag editor or whatever which they would recommend for editting flac file tags? From: Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:46:36 -0800 On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 10:28:43 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't remember the exact command, but something like id3v2 -l 11_*.flac came back: 11_Frogs.flac No tags found Or something like that.Most of these files (they're all flac) were ripped/tagged with dbPowerAMP and slimserver seems to be able to pull them out.So i just figured this tool (id3v2) was having issues reading them. Flac doesn't use ID3 tags man metaflac -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Linux command-line tagger
Can anyone recommend a good command-line tagger (I'm already using abcde to rip - just need something to use for the occasional fix). I've tried audiotool, id3v2 and id3tool but they don't seem to read the existing tags. Anyone have a recommendation? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagger
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:39:48 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good command-line tagger (I'm already using abcde to rip - just need something to use for the occasional fix). I've tried audiotool, id3v2 and id3tool but they don't seem to read the existing tags. id3v2 works perfectly for me - what do you mean by not reading the existing tags? It does for me - were your mp3's tagged with ape? I don't believe it understands ape tags - but it should work fine with existing ID3V1 or ID3V2 tags. -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) softwarerecommendations
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Peters[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached I'm reading these lists through gmane, and don't seem to be able to decode the attachments. Can you e-mail them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) software recommendations
I'm using the script called crip: http://bach.dynet.com/crip/ crip is a terminal-based ripper/encoder/tagger tool for creating Ogg Vorbis/FLAC/MP3 files under UNIX/Linux. It is well-suited for anyone (especially the perfectionist) who seeks to make a lot of files from CDs and have them all properly labeled and professional-quality with a minimum of hassle and yet still have flexibility and full control over everything. Current versions of crip only support Ogg Vorbis and FLAC. I find it a good mix of manual and automatic -- I can easily correct tags when I want to and accept what it finds if I like that. --John htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV class=RTEHaving just gotten my myth tv box running, and relocating my slimserver (now 6.0 - thanks to those who helped) install to it, I'm ready to rip and tag the CDs that have piled-up over the past two months and I'd really like to use a command-line tool to do it.nbsp; Does anyone know of, or better yet use, anything like this?/DIV/div/html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) software recommendations
Michael Haan wrote: Having just gotten my myth tv box running, and relocating my slimserver (now 6.0 - thanks to those who helped) install to it, I'm ready to rip and tag the CDs that have piled-up over the past two months and I'd really like to use a command-line tool to do it. Does anyone know of, or better yet use, anything like this? I've heard good things about abcde but haven't used it. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) software recommendations
Michael Haan wrote: Having just gotten my myth tv box running, and relocating my slimserver (now 6.0 - thanks to those who helped) install to it, I'm ready to rip and tag the CDs that have piled-up over the past two months and I'd really like to use a command-line tool to do it. Does anyone know of, or better yet use, anything like this? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss I use jack and it uses the cdparanoia library, which is great. Once you set up how you want your filenames, directories, and such it is as easy as typing jack -q, which will query freedb.org and get the song titles and such. There are some automated tools out there for album covers, but I prefer to just find them myself as I usually get better results with google images, as some of the pictures on amazon are kind of small. In the case that jack doesn't find your cd on freedb you can always go in with your favorite tag editor and fill in the blanks. jack should be fairly easy to install and configure provided you have lame or the ogg tools. Hope that helps. Mark ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) software recommendations
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:10:49 -0500, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having just gotten my myth tv box running, and relocating my slimserver (now 6.0 - thanks to those who helped) install to it, I'm ready to rip and tag the CDs that have piled-up over the past two months and I'd really like to use a command-line tool to do it. Does anyone know of, or better yet use, anything like this? I don't trust/like cddb - One album, artist will be Eagles - next it will be The Eagles One album, artist will be R.E.O. Speedwago - next it will be REO Speedwagon - etc. Here's what I do. It's more work, but worth it (imho) 1) create directory structure ~/flac/Artist_With_Underscores_For_Spaces/Album_Same_Underscore_Dealie cd ~/flac/U2/War cdparanoia -d /dev/hdc -B -X That rips them to wav files. I rename them - 01-Sunday_Bloody_Sunday.wav 02-Seconds.wav 03-New_Year\'s_Day.wav etc. Then I create metadata using a shell script I wrote (request if you want) wav2flac-metadata.sh Rock 1983 That creates a file called tracks.txt I hand edit that file if needed (usually not, but some special characters I don't escape but use spaces, so I do sometimes need to fix the file) Then I run wav2flac.sh (request if you want) - and it makes my flac files tagged for me using the metadata provided. That may be more work than you want to do - I just got sick of incorrect CDDB data. So when I have incorrect data now, it's me to blame :p -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux command-line tagging / ripping (flac) softwarerecommendations
I'm not oppsed to additional work, especially if it reduces errors and can be somewhat scripted. So, your method adds a manual step for naming the files, otherwise using cdparanoia and flac? That's not so bad. I still need to look at jack and compare it to abcde and your method, but would you mind sending along those scripts that you mentioned? Thanks. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] linux dropout due to io scheduling
I had problems with drop outs when running a cp -al in the background. So I reniced the server, and the cp -al. No luck. So I switched to 2.6, and the drop outs nearly disappeared. I then set elevator=deadline in grub, no more drop outs (at least until a kernel upgrade removed the elevator=deadline). I tried tweaking the anticipatory scheduler, but didn't have any luck (probably because I didn't tweak it enough). Regardless the new SB2 looks great, but I'm happy with what I have. -Darren On Mar 9, 2005, at 21:01, momerath wrote: Thanks for the thought, but I'm running 2.6.11 with cfq. I've tried anticipatory and even a genetic algorythm patch for anticipatory. I've reniced, run X-less, etc to no avail. ~Michael On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:55:13 +0100, Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: of course, pcm streaming skips sometimes, even in situations I would have thought would certainly work. On the off chance that you're running SlimServer on Linux 2.4 - the default disk scheduler is optimized for everything but streaming files, meaning I'd often get skips even while only listing a bigger directory for example. The 2.4 scheduler can not be tuned much to avoid this but in 2.6 there are different schedulers available. While I couldn't even serve two streams at the same time properly before the cfq scheduler has yet to miss a beat with 16 streams running (video files with nearly the same bitrate as PCM) C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] linux and cuesheet
If you're using cdrdao or something else that uses TOC files, you'll probably also want to check out cuetools to convert TOC into cuesheets, and vice versa. http://developer.berlios.de/projects/cuetools/ -michael Moses Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John, I believe cdrdao will make a TOC, which can be converted to cue, but there's also a utility at: http://diplodocus.org/dist/audio/mkcue-1.tar.bz2 that just creates cue sheets. The cdrdao method takes much more time, as it reads the entire disc to make sure that it's accurate, I think mkcue just grabs the index and trusts it. Moses On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, John L Fjellstad wrote: Is there an easy way to create cuesheets in Linux? (easy as in not having to fire up vi and manually typing in the information?) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:16:49 -0800, Pbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point I was going to make, excatly. However there is one more thing to note. Linspire also releases their code under GPL. So it is a give and take. Slimserver guys should take a note of the lsongs application. http://mp3beamer.com/ss_lsongs-syncing.html This would make a pretty nice itunes replacement, and could be easily bundled with slimserver. Even if the porting needs to get done onto Windows and OSX we are still talking about getting a gigantic bunch of work for free. What does it use for its audio backend? This sounds crazy - but other than mplayer (only for ripping DVD audio, which I probably could do with gstreamer if I was willing to play with the pipes) I personally (note the personally) refuse to use any multimedia app for playing that does not use a gstreamer backend. OK, sox is another exception. The reason is because I think in many ways, LotD (my passion) is too fragmented - there's mplayer, xine, gstreamer, and apps that use their own. I think gstreamer is technically the best, and if focus is put there - we can get better apps. slimserver is different, I don't expect them to use gstreamer because perl bindings don't exist yet (and python bindings are still fairly new), and slimserver is expected to run on a host of operating systems - some of which either do not have gstreamer or have it but use a different multimedia backend. I guess what I'm saying - I would rather see an app like Rhythmbox and AmoroK get that functionallity than see a new app - yet another jukebox player ... if it uses gstreamer, then I'm all for it. GStreamer is nice because you add a plugin (which can be closed, it's libraries are lgpl) and lots of apps now have support for the new codec - that's the way it should be. But I guess I'm going off topic a wee bit. -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
Michael Peters wrote: GPL gives them the right to do what they are doing, so long as they follow the rules. Wether they contribute patches back or not is not necessary, any code worth having will make its way back simply because they have to comply with GPL themselves. They aren't using a stolen project, GPL was written specifically to allow software to be sold. For slim it sells hardware, for this group that's primarily what it is doing as well. This bears repeating. Not only are they not stealing, they're not even being unethical. By choosing to release software under the GPL, Slim Devices chose for this sort of thing to be allowed. It's the nature of Free Software. Free Software is _not_ about anyone's right to get software without paying for it -- it's about your rights to make software that you already have do what you need it to do, and your rights to redistribute those changes. While they don't mention the GPL anywhere on their site, they are not required to, and I'm sure that the download does contain the required GPL notices, which inform any buyer of their rights to obtain and redistribute the source code. - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:19:28 -0600, Michael Alletto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4933903950.html Scroll down to the pictures of the web interface. Does it look like slimserver to anyone else? And they are charging $70 for the software only. If they are really using slimserver but modified can they really charge for it? ...and have a look at the Java interface. They did not even change the name on the screenshot... http://www.mp3beamer.com/ss_java.html -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:19:28 -0600, Michael Alletto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4933903950.html Scroll down to the pictures of the web interface. Does it look like slimserver to anyone else? And they are charging $70 for the software only. If they are really using slimserver but modified can they really charge for it? Yes - if they provide the source to their customers (which they do if it is perl) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rpm -qi slimserver |grep License Size: 21244838 License: GPL [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ That means anyone can modify it (or not) and sell it - as long as they comply with the GPL - which means they make the source available to anyone they distribute it to. -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
I think if they are distributing the code outside their organization (whether selling it or allowing download), they have to make their source available upon request (by anyone). Even if they only have to make it available to customers, it must be supplied under the GPL, which would allow those customers to pass it on. So if they actually made any useful modifications to slimserver, we can all benefit from them regardless of whether we are customers. I think they only have available to make it available to those that they have distributed the product to (customers), but I'm not positive. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
... it definitively looks like slimserver. check this out http://www.mp3beamer.com/ss_mp3beamer.html and softsqueeze screenshot on their product page http://www.mp3beamer.com/ss_java.html it seems that MP3Beamer is using slimserver as the core streaming server. Even port 9000 is used. I did not find any hint or link to slimserver and slimserver is not mentioned on their page. Is that allowed? Walt Michael Alletto wrote: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4933903950.html Scroll down to the pictures of the web interface. Does it look like slimserver to anyone else? And they are charging $70 for the software only. If they are really using slimserver but modified can they really charge for it? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
So, probably a few things to do here: #1: someone should set up a web page (linked from SlimDevices.com, so it hits the search engines quickly) that talks about this product by name and how it is based on SlimServer, which is freely available. Hopefully some of the consumers that are considering the software-only purchase and do a bit of research will find the page and realize they might be wasting money. #2: someone should ask them if the source is included with purchase, since it's just a reskin of SlimServer anyway. Either they'll deny it, acknowledge it, or ignore it -- but we need to know which before action can be taken or judgement can be made. I will say this: hopefully they'll use the resources to improve it, then release the improvements back to the SlimServer project. After all, that's what this whole GPL thing is all about. :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
Michael Herger wrote: ...and have a look at the Java interface. They did not even change the name on the screenshot... http://www.mp3beamer.com/ss_java.html wow! my original softsqueeze interface. I did a big comedy double-take when I clicked that link ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Linux box to stream music, interface look familiar?
Incidentally, I just emailed the folks at LinuxDevices suggesting that they would be doing their readers a service by noting that the MP3Beamer software appears to be based on SlimServer, a GPLd project available for free (after validating it with the MP3Tunes people, of course). :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
