[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Mid September, it seems. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Roy2001 [OP] You must've asked -really- nicely: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25771 :-) -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
stuorguk Wrote: > 1 Scroll wheel in the remote (like in a mouse) Yes. Wouldn't actually need any SB hardware upgrades, could work fine as a backwards upgrade for SB1 and 2 also. > 2 LDR sensor for automatic display brightness > (and lower light levels for bedroom use). Seems like a good idea. Shouldn't be all that hard. Maybe some server support so that alarms could override the lower light levels and flash things at the sleeper. > 3 Proper Geekport with a relay output for amplifiers. I think those that want a geekport can figure out how to drive a relay, and asking the SB to house a relay with the capacity to switch an unknown load is asking for trouble. Personally I'd stick to proper geekport support. > Maybe a serial interface for addon modules, like room temperature > sensors. I don't know about temperature sensors, seems a mite esoteric to me, but I'd love to see a serial interface or a USB interface so that people could add their own (or a Slim branded) front panel. Or a *knob*. Have I mentioned how nice the Audiotron *knob* was. I may have mentioned this before. In fact, I (and a few thousand others) may have mentioned it often enough to make it into the April Fools announcement: http://www.slimdevices.com/au_press_kronos.html -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
seanadams Wrote: > Sorry for the late reply - I lost track of this thread. (All of this is > "IIRC" - I haven't looked at this in a while) > > SB3 is not quite "i2s" ready, only because the data format is shifted > by one bit position. > > The reason was just a matter of convenience - the DAC supported several > modes, so we chose the best mode rather than changing our audio output > to i2s. > > Probably if you really wanted to connect it to an external i2s DAC, it > would just be a matter of moving a jumper or changing one of the > hard-wired pins on the DAC to set it to left-justified or 24-bit mode. Ok, I'm convinced now. :) This device aimed at few quite different consumer groups. Most of "Audiophile" group tend to abandon the analog part of SB, because too many have high quality outboard DACs. So for this group quality of SB's digital chain is substantially more important, and this is where I'd suggest to invest R&D resources. Just do whatever budget allows to reduce jitter: better clock, better RF/EMI isolation, etc. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
fauzigarib Wrote: > My covert informant has just passed this on to me... > > ... but I can't upload the darn thing! ;) > > Got a datasheet on the new "High end" network music player from Slim > Devices, called "The Transporter". Got the AK4396 DAC, and looks > really sleek!! > > From the datasheet, it seems like it provides inputs into the built in > dac... hence the name! > > I tried to upload it, but i get the message that the limit has been > exceeded... Any tips on how to go about doing this? It's a pdf file. > > Anyone have any further news on this? > > My apologies if this has been discussed already, but I just joined the > fourm, and haven't had time to go through the entire thread yet... A to D? Good move. Not necessarily a high-end feature in itself, but a logical progression. It's not going to mean much, though, unless you can capture the digital output to disk. That's something a lot of audiophiles have been looking for and finding in other PC-based audio systems - the ability to digitize audio from vinyl and tape sources. Would be really nice to be able to 'record' FM radio shows in this manner as well. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
A room correction system would be very nice. Ideally it should work in client/server mode, with the Slimserver doing most of the number crunching. Can also receive update via the Internet, given the network nature of the box. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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upload it web space online and link to it. I have space if you need. PM me. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Hey all, My covert informant has just passed this on to me... ... but I can't upload the darn thing! ;) Got a datasheet on the new "High end" network music player from Slim Devices, called "The Transporter". Got the AK4396 DAC, and looks really sleek!! >From the datasheet, it seems like it provides inputs into the built in dac... hence the name! I tried to upload it, but i get the message that the limit has been exceeded... Any tips on how to go about doing this? It's a pdf file. Anyone have any further news on this? My apologies if this has been discussed already, but I just joined the fourm, and haven't had time to go through the entire thread yet... Fauzi -- fauzigarib fauzigarib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
325xi Wrote: > > Another note is that if my understanding is correct, Squeezebox is > "i2s-ready", i.e. implementation of i2s output in Squeezebox doesn't > require architectural changes, unlike implementation of optional word > clock link. Sorry for the late reply - I lost track of this thread. (All of this is "IIRC" - I haven't looked at this in a while) SB3 is not quite "i2s" ready, only because the data format is shifted by one bit position. The reason was just a matter of convenience - the DAC supported several modes, so we chose the best mode rather than changing our audio output to i2s. Probably if you really wanted to connect it to an external i2s DAC, it would just be a matter of moving a jumper or changing one of the hard-wired pins on the DAC to set it to left-justified or 24-bit mode. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
My dream is a companion device without a display that would be more inexpensive and allow for true wireless zone audio. As it is now, working a zone audio solution with Slimserver involves a computer, a sound card like this: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta1010-main.html , and not a dime to slim devices. -- NWP NWP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
docbee Wrote: > Putting some effort on the server side might also be an option. A ready > to go server device for the not so computer savvy user and some nice > bundeling might attract the more non-techhie music lover. At the moment > slim devices leaves this market to system integrators or folks around > the NAS products. > Whow! Just a few days after saying this, slim devices has a NAS server solution in their portfolio. What is about the other suggestions ;-))) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
dwc Wrote: > Sharks with laser beams. Please. not ill-tempered sea bas then? -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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azinck3 Wrote: > Well, it won't be too soon. They haven't done the requisite price drop > yet. I'm thinking if they DO offer a high-end SB4 (at say $799), they may not drop the price of the "now reasonably-priced" $299 SB3. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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TCM Wrote: > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70942-0.html?tw=wn_technology_1 Yeah but those are ~$10K lasers. ;-) Also regarding dimming the display for bedroom use - brightness 1 is as low as the VFD can go. See the technical documentation on the VFD in SlimServer Help. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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dwc Wrote: > Sharks with laser beams. Please. Ah _frickin'_ laser beams. I mistook it for a reference to the Wired article. D'oh! Good article though. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Ali-M Wrote: > I'll be damned. I just bought my SB3, so I really don't hope they'll > release a new version anytime soon...no offence people. Well, it won't be too soon. They haven't done the requisite price drop yet. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Sharks with laser beams. Please. -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'll be damned. I just bought my SB3, so I really don't hope they'll release a new version anytime soon...no offence people. -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Keep it simple, and modular I say. For me: 1 Scroll wheel in the remote (like in a mouse) 2 LDR sensor for automatic display brightness (and lower light levels for bedroom use). 3 Proper Geekport with a relay output for amplifiers. Maybe a serial interface for addon modules, like room temperature sensors. -- stuorguk stuorguk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Why not push the boat out all together. Add an atomic clock to the SB2 to eliminate a clock derived jitter altogether. The clock signal could also be used to keep the SB's in synch. Instead of just synching at the start of each song, the SB's could synch regularly. Say every 4 or 5 seconds. At startup, Slimserver would hold an "election". The SB with the strongest wireless signal , lowest ping time to the server (or a wired SB), becomes the synch "master". The master then tells the other SB's how many frames ahead/behind they are and they get back in synch. This would require each SB to have a highly accurate clock source. Also a CF or memory stick slot would be nice. You could then re-use some of your old 32/64Mb memory cards (from old digital camera's etc) to increase the internal buffer space and eliminate buffer underruns. The SB would detect any added memory and use it to download more of the playlist. 128Mb would allow you to buffer the first 50% of the next 5 songs so that FFWD is instant. I'm assuming MP3's, WMA etc. Flac users could buy a 1Gb stick. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
docbee Wrote: > If you want it really big, an included laser device that projects the > text to a nearby wall might be great. I have seen a couple of cheap > alarm clocks, that do this... of course just 4 digits... dont know if > there are laser projection devices that can do 2x40 characters ;-) > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70942-0.html?tw=wn_technology_1 -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
seanadams Wrote: > Actually, i2s barely begins to solve the problem. Sure, it eliminates > s/pdif's embedding of the clock, but you're still subject to noise in > transmitting the clock to the DAC. The right solution is to put the > oscillator in the DAC, and then send a clock signal _back_ to the > source (via word clock, mclk, or even s/pdif). Sean, Thanks for your reply. My point is that although i2s doesn't resolve the whole jitter issue, it's still does substantially better job then SPDIF. For some reason word clock link gathers too little attention from hi-end consumer audio world, and i2s is really "in fashion" these days. Which, in turn, makes better chances there will be more DACs that can accept such a input in the foreseeable future. Another note is that if my understanding is correct, Squeezebox is "i2s-ready", i.e. implementation of i2s output in Squeezebox doesn't require architectural changes, unlike implementation of optional word clock link. So, considering all the above, its better to have something then nothing. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
I don't think we will see anything that radical for some of the reasons expressed here. easiest win imho would be an evolution towards a product like the acoustic energy wifi radio. Its suprising how net radio listening features some of these forums. So my guess is a SB plus a bunch of preset buttons for storing net radio stations. Yes like that roku thing.. gandt -- gandt gandt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
325xi Wrote: > I2S output as an alternative to SPDIF!!! This is not a big deal > technically, but would allow to pretty much eliminate jitter associated > with SPDIF design flaws. > > At this very moment there are just few DAC boxes that can receive I2S, > but it's gaining moment tremendously. Actually, i2s barely begins to solve the problem. Sure, it eliminates s/pdif's embedding of the clock, but you're still subject to noise in transmitting the clock to the DAC. The right solution is to put the oscillator in the DAC, and then send a clock signal _back_ to the source (via word clock, mclk, or even s/pdif). -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
I2S output as an alternative to SPDIF!!! This is not a big deal technically, but would allow to pretty much eliminate jitter associated with SPDIF design flaws. At this very moment there are just few DAC boxes that can receive I2S, but it's gaining moment tremendously. -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
If you want it really big, an included laser device that projects the text to a nearby wall might be great. I have seen a couple of cheap alarm clocks, that do this... of course just 4 digits... dont know if there are laser projection devices that can do 2x40 characters ;-) -- docbee docbee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
>That'd be nice. I've wanted a larger display for quite some time. A >VFD that was twice as tall would work well (my squeezeboxes tend to >be a long way from where I am), but a nice color LCD would work, too. I too would like a larger display. I like all the extra information displayed when Squeezebox font is set medium but find it difficult to read from my couch. So I end up setting the font to Large and forgo the time remaining, progress bar, etc. A color display would be nice but is probably too expensive to be practical. -jason -- jania jania's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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in terms of display upgrades .. how about a colour screen which is also a touch pad display (great for the 770 skin ... this would allow you to look at your album art plus exercise control over the unit without need of the remote That'd be nice. I've wanted a larger display for quite some time. A VFD that was twice as tall would work well (my squeezeboxes tend to be a long way from where I am), but a nice color LCD would work, too. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
in terms of display upgrades .. how about a colour screen which is also a touch pad display (great for the 770 skin ... this would allow you to look at your album art plus exercise control over the unit without need of the remote -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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The idea of an "audiophile" SB to me is a non-starter. Why would an audiophile want a SB w/an integrated amplifier? Audiophiles shun integrated amplifiers, unless they are the ones that cost several thousand dollars. Adding a higher-end DAC to the SB also would be difficult, due to size constraints. Have you guys looked at audiophile-worthy DAC's? They are large, mainly due to gigantic (and probably unecessary) power supplies, transformer I/V stages, and sometimes tubes. Finally, and I've said this before in another thread, most of audiophilia is about constantly tweaking and changing your system. An all-in-one "audiophile" SB is a complete oxymoron IMHO. So, basically, true audiophile won't buy it, and those who are not audiophiles won't need it. I'm really not sure what the market for a $1000 SB would be. Can anyone tell me? -- ezkcdude SB3->Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC->MIT Terminator 2 interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier->Speltz anti-cables->DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10" subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
It seems as if some of the changes people are mentioning would be changes to Slimserver, not upgrades to the Squeezebox. If you have suggestions on Slimserver, you can go to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ and make a feature request. -- NWP NWP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Oooo! What about the odd button on it, like play < > stop, for when one has a bit of trouble locating the remote. Like the idea of a very good dac inside to save another box appearing, and I like the SB2 size, as SB3 would not fit my shelf space, even thought I sort of think the SB3 looks a bit better... Would be an even happier Bunny :) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Well, if its open season for wishes - I wish it had a case with integrated amplifier capable of running a couple of small speakers, and a snooze bar on the top. It should be capable of being mounted under a cabinet or shelf, or used on a side table or desk. The snooze bar would make it into a great alarm clock, then someone could write a great plug in to tell you when your first appointment was, any hi-priority emails, or if the trains are running late. As far as I am concerned, it's about perfect for my audio system, but without an amp it's too much equipment for the kitchen, and without a snooze bar, its never going to make it into the bedroom - ;) -- bolfings bolfings's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I wouldn't mind seeing a dynamic "web 2.0" html interface. This is one area that is lacking - the web interface is slow and clunky. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Branded quiet server appliance and Boombox are hardware ideas that get my attention. I don't need buttons, I like both form factors and I don't use digital out.Software side, a more robust web interface and more powerful database tools (some good stuff is being done in plugins, but should be more productized). Lazy Search and Ratings. -- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
ajmitchell Wrote: > 1. Graphic (d-sub/dvi/hdmi) output with some nice options to play > visuals on a plasma TV or monitor This wouldn't be an upgrade, more a completely new product, and one that would be significantly more expensive than the current system ajmitchell Wrote: > 2. Form-factor Options of tall (as now) or slimline versions (similar to > SB2) I can understand this one ajmitchell Wrote: > 3. Even higher resolution display with a superior spectrum analyser Again, i can see the point in this ajmitchell Wrote: > 4. An analogue IN to allow distribution of CD player etc signal across > network (yes I know this is a SONOS feature) I think Marks suggestion of a sound driver would be preferable and would not require new hardware. It would be a completely software drived feature and could be used with existing equipment ajmitchell Wrote: > 5. Ability to cross-fade and sync AT THE SAME time This shouldn't need new hardware, just changes in the software i think ajmitchell Wrote: > 6. Even better audio qualitycome on we can never have enough Ready for a fresh round or arguments? :P ajmitchell Wrote: > 7. Better software interface and upgrade on exbrowse3 > > 8. Dynamic updating with itunes > > 9. A better way of dealing with favourites and least favourites No new hardware needed for these either :) ajmitchell Wrote: > 10. Not too much increase in cost now you are just living in a fantasy :P (j/k btw) What would i like to see? I really don't know to be honest. Hardware wise the SB3 is pretty much perfect for how i use it. I think a SlimDevices branded NAS box (based around the Qnap perhaps?) would be good. same with a Nokia 770 type device as a remote. Just had a thought. if the casing could be modified so you could slip it into a 'boom box' type enclosure and all the ports connected up that would be neat. Especially if the unit looked something like the iPod hifi -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On device controls, and an Audiotron-style knob -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
See the problem is, you can never satisfy everybody as their needs and wants are different. For example, and no offence here: ajmitchell Wrote: > 1. Graphic (d-sub/dvi/hdmi) output with some nice options to play > visuals on a plasma TV or monitor I see this mentioned often but it's of no interest to me at all. I guess it's because I find video unexciting and audio fascinating. > > 2. Form-factor Options of tall (as now) or slimline versions (similar > to SB2) Now there are situations where this could come in handy. > > 3. Even higher resolution display with a superior spectrum analyser How much higher resolution though? True, the spectrum analyzer could be improved. I'd like to see higher framerates on FLAC playback. It would be cool to have an album art thumbnail on the display too but I'm not sure how good it would look in monochrome. > > 4. An analogue IN to allow distribution of CD player etc signal across > network (yes I know this is a SONOS feature) This is a great idea but it may require substantial hardware changes. > > 5. Ability to cross-fade and sync AT THE SAME time I don't use either. > > 6. Even better audio qualitycome on we can never have enough Definitely any improvements are welcome. Should they concentrate on the digital or analog outputs though? I don't use the analog outputs, therefore I won't benefit from a DAC upgrade. The digital outputs are about as good as current technology allows - crystal oscillators rather than PLL timers. Minimal jitter. Perhaps improvements in the power supply section? > > 7. Better software interface and upgrade on exbrowse3 Always welcome. > > 8. Dynamic updating with itunes Since iTunes is a tool of the devil, I don't use it. ;-) > > 9. A better way of dealing with favourites and least favourites Never used it. > > 10. Not too much increase in cost (with the wireless access problems > all sorted) Hmm. Can't get something for nothing, and some of these upgrades are non-trivial. The wireless access problems seem to be mostly sorted. We've gone from a torrent of "my SB3 won't work with my router" posts to a trickle. I may add one feature which is often asked for - the creation of a SlimServer sound driver. It's not for playing computer system sounds although you could certainly do that. This would be for: - immediate playback of a CD in the optical drive, without having to rip or add to the database - playback through iTunes. If it can come out of your soundcard, it can come out of SlimServer as well if there was a driver. That way Slim would finally get rid of the "doesn't play DRM but Roku can" albatross hanging around their neck in reviews. I wouldn't personally use the driver, but it would substantially increase functionality and it's a frequently-requested feature. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
OK no-one is gonna tell about product development but heres what I would like to see: 1. Graphic (d-sub/dvi/hdmi) output with some nice options to play visuals on a plasma TV or monitor 2. Form-factor Options of tall (as now) or slimline versions (similar to SB2) 3. Even higher resolution display with a superior spectrum analyser 4. An analogue IN to allow distribution of CD player etc signal across network (yes I know this is a SONOS feature) 5. Ability to cross-fade and sync AT THE SAME time 6. Even better audio qualitycome on we can never have enough 7. Better software interface and upgrade on exbrowse3 8. Dynamic updating with itunes 9. A better way of dealing with favourites and least favourites 10. Not too much increase in cost (with the wireless access problems all sorted) Surely not too much to ask for ;) Alex -- ajmitchell ajmitchell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB4 and/or a high-end model, when?
Slim Devices has a policy of not commenting on products under development (or not under development). Little leaks get out from time to time, but even then it's not until the product is almost released. Unlike some competitors (e.g., Roku), they don't hype vaporware. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24400 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
