Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Of course, every time I update SlimServer to the latest version, it resets to LOCAL SYSTEM and I have to reset the LOG ON parameters to one that has permission to access the music share. That's kind of a bummer because half the time i forget to reset it and I have to think why Slim.exe can't access the music. Right, this is the thing FireDaemon helps with. Set and forget your command line, or tweak it to your heart's content (adding/removing debug arguments, etc.); start and stop the service easily from the FireDaemon control panel. It's a bit less of a bother all around. SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
For the record, Windows services can access shares just fine. I do it all the time. You just need to set the user context of the service to one that has permission to do so. By default, services run under LOCAL SYSTEM which is usually not granted permission to any network resources. Of course, every time I update SlimServer to the latest version, it resets to LOCAL SYSTEM and I have to reset the LOG ON parameters to one that has permission to access the music share. That's kind of a bummer because half the time i forget to reset it and I have to think why Slim.exe can't access the music. Doh! > It lets you install and run any Windows app or batch file as a service, > but have it run as whatever user you wish (which gets around the problem > of Windows services not being able to access shares). ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
The program is called "CMDOW" and can be found here: http://www.commandline.co.uk/cmdow/ It's a very neat and small command line program which can be used to start any other program specifying it's window appearance - minimized, maximized or: HIDDEN! Works perfectly, does not need any ressources, slim.exe starts faster, my Itunes gets updated and I don't have any clutter in my taskbar! Nice utility! I could see a number of uses for it on my PC. Another option is FireDaemon: http://www.firedaemon.com/ It lets you install and run any Windows app or batch file as a service, but have it run as whatever user you wish (which gets around the problem of Windows services not being able to access shares). I've been using it for quite a while and have been very happy with it. (The free version allows you to set up a single service; the paid version is unlimited.) SBB Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Well - seems I finally found a solution to my problem - even though I am quite dissapointed having to rely for such a basic functionality like starting slim.exe in the background on an external tool. I've tried the solution with a shortcut as well as James was describing but I was bothered being left with a cmd box in the task bar (I've only got a 17'' screen :) I finally found a solution: The program is called "CMDOW" and can be found here: http://www.commandline.co.uk/cmdow/ It's a very neat and small command line program which can be used to start any other program specifying it's window appearance - minimized, maximized or: HIDDEN! Works perfectly, does not need any ressources, slim.exe starts faster, my Itunes gets updated and I don't have any clutter in my taskbar! :) Manuel __ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Ah OK, then I was wrong... I have no idea about the "iTunes Update" plugin, sorry for the confusion. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Ah I see, Manuel was asking about the "iTunes Update" plugin, which is not the same as the "iTunes" plugin. iTunes plugin reads from iTunes, iTunes Update writes to iTunes. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel Fombellida Sent: 23 March 2005 11:51 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows Hi James, I haven't changed anything to the service and I am using XP SP2 Pro. The only thing that I am doing in the iTunes tab it to specify the path for the library and the music folder. When I initially tried with "find the library automatically" it didn't work for me. I remember that I exchanged some emails with someone on the list to debug it but despite the registry settings looked correct the software was returning "" as the path... So since then I enter the path where my library is (somewhere in my user profile) and my music folder which in my case is D:\iTunes. That's it. Every time I reinstall a new version of slimserver I just use the installation parameters that says that it should start automatically. I can see the service stopping and restarting during the installation. In the control panel the service is there running on automatic! Perhaps in the meantime the "automatic search for the library" has been fixed but I never bother checking again as specifying the path worked fine for me. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Hi James, I haven't changed anything to the service and I am using XP SP2 Pro. The only thing that I am doing in the iTunes tab it to specify the path for the library and the music folder. When I initially tried with "find the library automatically" it didn't work for me. I remember that I exchanged some emails with someone on the list to debug it but despite the registry settings looked correct the software was returning "" as the path... So since then I enter the path where my library is (somewhere in my user profile) and my music folder which in my case is D:\iTunes. That's it. Every time I reinstall a new version of slimserver I just use the installation parameters that says that it should start automatically. I can see the service stopping and restarting during the installation. In the control panel the service is there running on automatic! Perhaps in the meantime the "automatic search for the library" has been fixed but I never bother checking again as specifying the path worked fine for me. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Hi Michel, That is interesting, I could never get it to work as a service and notes in the Moodlogic plugin led me to believe it was not possible. Did you change the service settings at all? What version of Windows are you running? As to Manuel's original question I have a shortcut to "slim.exe --d_plugins" in my startup folder, set to start minimized. Yes you get left with a cmd box in the task bar but that's life (actually I find it quite useful bcos I like to keep an eye on iTunes Update/Slimscrobbler) I did indeed find it started far faster than slimserver.exe. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel Fombellida Sent: 23 March 2005 08:56 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows Hi Manuel, I am not sure I understand your problem, I am runing slimserver as a service and I use the iTunes plugin... no problem at all. It was working with V5 and still works with V6. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Hi Manuel, I am not sure I understand your problem, I am runing slimserver as a service and I use the iTunes plugin... no problem at all. It was working with V5 and still works with V6. Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Thanks for the feedback but given the constant dropouts I had I am not yet willing to change back to the latest build of version 6... Anyway I assume my question will be valid for V6 as well- is there anyway to start Slimserver.exe or Slim.exe silently/minimized in the background as an alternative to having to run it as a service? As mentioned previously I could not find any command line options etc. that would allow to do this. But I cannot imagine such a basic thing would not be possible given all the rest that my Slimbox allows me to do... Cheers, Manuel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michel Fombellida Sent: Dienstag, 22. März 2005 22:30 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows Hi, > - Version 6 seems to consider more tags than the previous version. All > of a sudden > my "browe by Artist" showed up Artists I never heared of. Keep in > mind that ITunes > showed everything correct. I found out that some of my MP3s had tags > like "Composer" > which were considered as well as "Artist". this is one of the problem I reported in bug 1133 and in a message below: "...there is still one issue on the Squeezebox itself. If you do Browse Music- >Browse Genres->select one genre-> then instead of seing a list of >Artists in this genre I actually see a list of Artists AND Composers! Note the server setting is "Don't include composer, band and orchestra in artists". With the latest nightly of 6.0 this behaviour is now only in Browse by genres (browser by Artist is correct now). Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Hi, > - Version 6 seems to consider more tags than the previous version. All of a > sudden > my "browe by Artist" showed up Artists I never heared of. Keep in mind > that ITunes > showed everything correct. I found out that some of my MP3s had tags like > "Composer" > which were considered as well as "Artist". this is one of the problem I reported in bug 1133 and in a message below: "...there is still one issue on the Squeezebox itself. If you do Browse Music- >Browse Genres->select one genre-> then instead of seing a list of Artists in this genre I actually see a list of Artists AND Composers! Note the server setting is "Don't include composer, band and orchestra in artists". With the latest nightly of 6.0 this behaviour is now only in Browse by genres (browser by Artist is correct now). Michel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Sorry Dan - I was rather vague as I did not want to start discussing my problems I had with version 6 :) I just managed to get everything up and running again with the old version. Basically what happened was: - I had permanent dropouts when playing music and that's with a signal strength of 64% - Version 6 seems to consider more tags than the previous version. All of a sudden my "browe by Artist" showed up Artists I never heared of. Keep in mind that ITunes showed everything correct. I found out that some of my MP3s had tags like "Composer" which were considered as well as "Artist". So much to version 6. At the moment I am not keen on trying it out again. Especially because it's in beta stage at the moment anyway and it did not work for me. Any ideas to my original issue of starting Slimserver? Cheers, Manuel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sully Sent: Dienstag, 22. März 2005 21:12 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows * Manuel Rathmann shaped the electrons to say... > I'm running Slimserver 5.4.1 for Windows. Upgrading to the latest > version 6 completely screwed my system so I'm back with the old one. I > am using Itunes to keep my music organized and therefore would like to > run the Itunes plugin as well which updates my ratings etc. Manuel - could you be a little more descriptive in "completely screwed my system" ? Thanks. -D -- For every new fool-proof invention there is a new and improved fool. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
Dan Sully wrote: Manuel - could you be a little more descriptive in "completely screwed my system" ? Perhaps version 6.0 includes some kind of proprietary security protocol? http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/14238 (last paragraph) Hey, it is kind of audio related, at least. :) - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Starting slimserver in Windows
* Manuel Rathmann shaped the electrons to say... I'm running Slimserver 5.4.1 for Windows. Upgrading to the latest version 6 completely screwed my system so I'm back with the old one. I am using Itunes to keep my music organized and therefore would like to run the Itunes plugin as well which updates my ratings etc. Manuel - could you be a little more descriptive in "completely screwed my system" ? Thanks. -D -- For every new fool-proof invention there is a new and improved fool. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
