Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
Julf wrote: > Don't they all? :) Sure they do ;) That's why I asked about the SOtM card! Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wortgefecht wrote: > Steinberg claims, that this PCIe card is "the best the market has to > offer". Don't they all? :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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agillis wrote: > - SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in > the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies etc. There is a German retailer selling VortexBox "audiophile" devices for 2K that come with - according to the seller - either a ESI Juli@ XTe (I have this one in my custom built desktop PC) or a "SOtM tX-USB exp PCIe USB 3.0". Is this the one used in the SOtM boxes and what makes it so special? My ESI Juli@ came together with Cubase LE from Steinberg and Steinberg claims, that this PCIe card is "the best the market has to offer". - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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agillis wrote: > > - SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in > the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies > etc. > Either you know this is snake oil (but elect to promote it nevertheless) or you are just incompetent as a developer. dafiend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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agillis wrote: > - Custom aluminium case. You really need to see it to appreciate how > beautiful it is and and how well it works. The CD slot is hidden in the > border. Very "Apple like" I agree that it does look very nice. (I hate to say this, but IMHO the one thing that slightly spoils its appearance is the Vortexbox logo on the front !) agillis wrote: > > - SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in > the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies etc. I thought the point about modern asynchronous USB DACs is that they are unaffected by the quality of the USB host (within reason). Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
agillis wrote: > - Custom aluminium case. You really need to see it to appreciate how > beautiful it is and and how well it works. The CD slot is hidden in the > border. Very "Apple like" Yes, good looking - but I guess no effect on sound quality. > - Custom low noise power supply How much audible difference does it make? > - SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in > the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies etc. What makes one USB card "better" than another? > - Extensive dealer network. You can go a listen to this box before > buying it. Remember as will all high end audio dealers take a cut to > demo an support a product. > - Marketing, The above poster is correct. I'm sure they spend money (as > most companies do) on promoting their products. Indeed. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case. > It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front. > And they want $2.5k for this? > Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300 I helped them build this unit and i'll give you the info on what makes it better then a stock VortexBox that I sell - Custom aluminium case. You really need to see it to appreciate how beautiful it is and and how well it works. The CD slot is hidden in the border. Very "Apple like" - Custom low noise power supply - SOtM USB card. As may of you already know this is the best USB card in the industry. Precision oscillators, super low noise power supplies etc. - Extensive dealer network. You can go a listen to this box before buying it. Remember as will all high end audio dealers take a cut to demo an support a product. - Marketing, The above poster is correct. I'm sure they spend money (as most companies do) on promoting their products. Does all this make it worth the extra cost? The customers that have purchased one from me tell me yes. They tell me the get the best sound out of their high end DACs with the SOtM. The customers that purchase this unit has all spent over $1000 just on their DAC and are using it to feed a high end system. There are may different VortexBox appliance units at different price ranges. It depends on what your looking for. rip, tag, get cover art All you do is insert the CD! http://vortexbox.org agillis Lead Developer VortexBox agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > Bummer ... Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS shows it as a device. > That's cool but that device cannot be synchronized. So that's a good > start, but the missing sync is making that a less interesting feature > than my hardware bridge > > [edit] : a Sonos client cannot be added to an existing stream, it can > only be the leader of the stream. But, 2 Sonos clients can be sync > together ... hmmm ... need to investigate why Back home for some tests - this is unfortuately unusable. Sonos streams properly from http:///stream.mp3 but the delay for start or stop is like 30 seconds. Propably just the fact that this is heavily buffered and the Sonos client just get the stream from LMS "as it is", LMS is just a http audio server. Well I guess I will have at least to get back to squeezelite and translate a few commands to Sonos as an uPnP client. This will obviously be a long journey :-). I'v seen other threads where people manage to have something similar, but not exactly that, especially no sycn and lot of transcoding that I'd like to avoid. If I cannot make it work with at minimum a sync between LMS and Sonos, then I'd better stick to my current HW solution which provides perfect audio synchro, just with that limitation that the whole Sonos system is seens a single player by LMS philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks for the links! I checked several suppliers of ready-made VortexBox boxes and as far as I can see, they all use standard parts and cases, some even have very detailed lists of components. So I should be able to build my own in order to replace my ASRock Ion 330 working as a server and the Duet connected to my amp :) I'll check out the VortexBox forum as well. - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mcdudeabides wrote: > I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of > Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I > think it is one of the best Linux platforms for a LMS based media > platform. Keep in mind that it goes beyond just trying to host LMS and > provides a number of other services (CD ripping, metadata via BLISS, > FLAC->MP3 sync, etc.) as well. The community also is constantly > extending the platform and you can find a number of useful > utilities/add-ons. If the Vortexbox interests you, then you might want > to drop in on their forum directly. The community is very helpful and > Ron Olsen is an omnipresent guru that helps with all matter of things > (very helpful for giving non-Linux users context and perspective for > some of the internals). > > http://vortexbox.org/forum > http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/ agree. I have 3 Vortexboxes (purchased from Small Green Computer, but since updated to the latest VB 2.3 OS). One can use these simply as servers for hardware SBs or use the included "squeezelite" players to have one or more software SB players residing within the VB and feeding analog (or more likely, USB > DAC) outputs for different locations. All using LMS and controllable with the same things (webGUI, iPeng, etc.). *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S & iPad2 (iPeng7 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wortgefecht wrote: > > Does anyone here have any experience with a dedicated Vortexbox 2.3 box, > preferably home built? I've bought a couple from Small Green Computer (Andrew, the founder of Vortexbox, store front) and built several for family and friends. I think it is one of the best Linux platforms for a LMS based media platform. Keep in mind that it goes beyond just trying to host LMS and provides a number of other services (CD ripping, metadata via BLISS, FLAC->MP3 sync, etc.) as well. The community also is constantly extending the platform and you can find a number of useful utilities/add-ons. If the Vortexbox interests you, then you might want to drop in on their forum directly. The community is very helpful and Ron Olsen is an omnipresent guru that helps with all matter of things (very helpful for giving non-Linux users context and perspective for some of the internals). http://vortexbox.org/forum http://shop.smallgreencomputer.com/ mcdudeabides's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57765 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > And they want $2.5k for this? Well, at least it isn't as bad as the $6,500 you have to pay for the same stuff in a 'McIntosh box' (http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/categorylanding.aspx?CatId=MediaStreamers). "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case. > It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front. > And they want $2.5k for this? > Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300 Thank you for introducing me to Vortexbox :) Unfortunately, I haven't heard of that until now ... Looks like what I need, LMS, Squeezelite and Google Play Music plugin! Some years ago I picked up a used Reson rh1 (a modified Hifidelio Pro) for a few bucks, but since it only came with a 80 gb hdd AND was pre-filled by the previous owner who forgot (!) to wipe his collection from it, I only toyed around with it for a while. Now it's collecting dust. The Reson rh1: 16418 http://www.justhifi.de/Reson_rh1_a3131.html Does anyone here have any experience with a dedicated Vortexbox 2.3 box, preferably home built? +---+ |Filename: Reson_rh1_a3131_1.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16418| +---+ - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wortgefecht wrote: > Oh, and then there is this nice device here: > http://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/sms-1000/ It's a > CD/DVD ripping station slash LMS (DLNA, SMB, NFS) server with a 2 gb > hdd. It would appear to be a Vortexbox in nice case. It even has the Vortexbox logo on the front. And they want $2.5k for this? Pre-built 2TB Vortexbox servers can be had on eBay for about £300 Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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wortgefecht wrote: > Not sure, whether this device already came up here Yes, the SOtM has been discussed every now and then. Mostly with people questioning the high price compared to something like the Raspberry PI, but I guess the Sonore people have to recoup the cost of paid product placement on sites like Computer Audiophile. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pablolie wrote: > i'd rather pay $200. Not sure, whether this device already came up here: http://www.sotm.sonore.us/SOtM1.html The SOtM sMS-100. Even though it's called a 'mini server', it's actually an audiophile Squeezebox compatible box: "SOtM sMS-100 is a network player which supports SqueezeLite (i.e. LMS), AirPlay, DLNA/MPD, and HQPlayer NAA function." The korean manufacturer delivers also a matching USB DAC/headphone amp and an external power supply as well as a rack for all three: http://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/products/advanced/ It's a bit more expensive than $200, it's more on the $500 side. Oh, and then there is this nice device here: http://www.sotm-audio.com/sotmwp/english/portfolio-item/sms-1000/ It's a CD/DVD ripping station slash LMS (DLNA, SMB, NFS) server with a 2 gb hdd. - *ASRock Ion 330* with Lubuntu 14.04 LTS running LMS 7.8.1 as music/video server - *Boom* (master bedroom), *Radio* (master bathroom), Archos 35 Home Connect + SqueezePlayer (guest bathroom) - *Duet* (living room) -> Parasound DAC 1500 -> vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (with 42E equalizer, 42T tape deck, and Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) -> Quadral Vulkan Mk II speakers wortgefecht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
cliveb wrote: > If you just want to be able to buy a piece of hardware that will > integrate into your LMS system, pre-built RaspberryPi + HiFiBerry in a > case packages are starting to appear on eBay. Here's are two examples on > the UK eBay site: > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DBM-Network-Audio-Player-Music-Streamer-DLNA-UPNP-HiFiBerry-Squeezebox-/281427452471?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item4186622237 > and > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HifiBerry-DAC-Music-Streamer-/131292006075?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item1e919d06bb > (Not cheap, but neither is Sonos). Actually, that IS cheap compared to Sonos. $200-$250 USD is right where I want to be, although I certainly wouldn't mind paying less when I can. Thanks for posting those links. pablolie wrote: > i still miss a good primer on this. there's always a reference it's > around somewhere, but is there an idiot's quide to building a community > squeezebox replacement somewhere? or can we buy a packaged one? i don't > want to compile, install and troubleshoot. i'd rather pay $200. Amen. Almost all the commercial boxes I see are well above that. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller of choice. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > Sorry, am I missing something here? > ".. using things like RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc? i still miss a good primer on this. there's always a reference it's around somewhere, but is there an idiot's quide to building a community squeezebox replacement somewhere? or can we buy a packaged one? i don't want to compile, install and troubleshoot. i'd rather pay $200. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine running Ubuntu 12.04 + LMS 7.7.3 on VMware Player System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- Creek Destiny Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- KEF LS50 Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> MusicalFidelity M1PWR -> Totem DreamCatcher pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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GeeJay wrote: > I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out > of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't > understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I > can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand. If you just want to be able to buy a piece of hardware that will integrate into your LMS system, pre-built RaspberryPi + HiFiBerry in a case packages are starting to appear on eBay. Here's are two examples on the UK eBay site: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DBM-Network-Audio-Player-Music-Streamer-DLNA-UPNP-HiFiBerry-Squeezebox-/281427452471?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item4186622237 and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HifiBerry-DAC-Music-Streamer-/131292006075?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item1e919d06bb (Not cheap, but neither is Sonos). Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > Great ! I did not remember that LMS feature. Tried quickly and Sonos > recognizes the stream and LMS recognizes the Sonos client - I'll see how > sync works (i'not home currently so a bit difficult to listen to the > result) but if it works, then it might be more than good enough - Thanks > ! Bummer ... Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS shows it as a device. That's cool but that device cannot be synchronized. So that's a good start, but the missing sync is making that a less interesting feature than my hardware bridge philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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GeeJay wrote: > I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out > of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't > understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I > can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand. a SB receiver ... and LMS (staying in that line - I guess we do not take about Sonos here) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bpa wrote: > Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still > accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want > "proper" products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller of choice. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bpa wrote: > Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still > accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want > "proper" products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security Roland0 wrote: > If mp3 is acceptable, the simplest way would be to point the sonos > devices to http://lmsserver:9000/stream.mp3 (see 'here' > (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Remote_streaming) for details) Great ! I did not remember that LMS feature. Tried quickly and Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS recognizes the Sonos client - I'll see how sync works (i'not home currently so a bit difficult to listen to the result) but if it works, then it might be more than good enough - Thanks ! philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bpa wrote: > Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still > accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want > "proper" products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security It's not that with LMS, DIY is the only option left. You can employ Android (or iOS) based devices. Getting the client running is as easy as installing an app. It doesn't get much more user-friendly than that IMO. dafiend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > That's what I'm doing now for test. I started with FFmpeg to directly do > RTP but unfortunately Sonos does not support RTP. So I will either use > FFServer or VLC. But, for going beyond just the test that would proove > feasibility, I was more concerned about the CPU required by multiple > transcoding, i.e Squeezelite decoding then VLC re-coding, that x times > number of streams ... pretty inefficient, no ? If mp3 is acceptable, the simplest way would be to point the sonos devices to http://lmsserver:9000/stream.mp3 (see 'here' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Remote_streaming) for details) [ extGUI4LMS - an alternative web interface: 'forum' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98186-Announce-Alternative-Web-Interface-(beta)) / 'homepage' (http://code.google.com/p/extgui4lms/) ] Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bpa wrote: > Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still > accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want > "proper" products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security Exactly - this is about transition. SOmetimes, you'll go native Sonos, but not at the begining. I agree that if the objective is to keep LMS for ever and for a guy that like tinkering, this is not an issue - but most users don't want to do that philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bpa wrote: > Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout > and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other > applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http > streaming Flac only streaming MP3 and possibly other lossy audio. That's what I'm doing now for test. I started with FFmpeg to directly do RTP but unfortunately Sonos does not support RTP. So I will either use FFServer or VLC. But, for going beyond just the test that would proove feasibility, I was more concerned about the CPU required by multiple transcoding, i.e Squeezelite decoding then VLC re-coding, that x times number of streams ... pretty inefficient, no ? philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > Why would anyone do that? Why would they use expensive Sonos devices to > emulate what can be built for a fraction of the cost using things like > RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc? Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want "proper" products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of > SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos > controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words > > SqueezeLite:1 ==> Stream:1 ==> Sonos device:1 > SqueezeLite:2 ==> Stream:2 ==> Sonos device:2 > .. . . . > SqueezeLite:N ==> Stream:N ==> Sonos device:N > > So, from LMS, each Sonos device would be a separated SqueezeLite entity, > so it would be independently controllable as far as volume and what is > played on to it. From Sonos controller, what is needed is to play a > different stream on each device. Synchronization is not likely to work, > but it can be achieved by connecting multiple Sonos devices to a single > stream Sorry, am I missing something here? It seems to me what's being proposed is a way of using Sonos devices as Squeezeboxes, and getting them properly integrated into LMS. Why would anyone do that? Why would they use expensive Sonos devices to emulate what can be built for a fraction of the cost using things like RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc? Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > then I'll see how to hack Squeezelite and a simple streamer. Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http streaming Flac only streaming MP3 and possibly other lossy audio. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words SqueezeLite:1 ==> Stream:1 ==> Sonos device:1 SqueezeLite:2 ==> Stream:2 ==> Sonos device:2 .. . . . SqueezeLite:N ==> Stream:N ==> Sonos device:N So, from LMS, each Sonos device would be a separated SqueezeLite entity, so it would be independently controllable as far as volume and what is played on to it. From Sonos controller, what is needed is to play a different stream on each device. Synchronization is not likely to work, but it can be achieved by connecting multiple Sonos devices to a single stream It might be a resource hog, I don't know but I'll try with one first to see if it is possible to easily procude a stream (like a radio stream) that Sonos would recognize and if it works, then I'll see how to hack Squeezelite and a simple streamer. I realize it might not work at all, but can be a fun result :-) Thoughts ? philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JonWill wrote: > Not quite as perfect as I had hoped - you need one additional player... > however much better than replacing my entire system with e.g. Sonoses in > one go - thanks very much for the explanation - food for thought! In fact, that makes me think that a better solution could be to re-use things like squeezelite to create a stream that can be picked-up by Sonos, this bridge being run by the computer running LMS ... hmmm let's think about it. Would you like it better ? Anybody having an opinion. philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > It is at the same time more simple and less elegant :-) Not quite as perfect as I had hoped - you need one additional player... however much better than replacing my entire system with e.g. Sonoses in one go - thanks very much for the explanation - food for thought! Main system: SB Touch, Arcam A85, Tannoy V4i speakers SB Classic into JVC R-1XL Stereo Receiver and JPW bookshelf speakers (an Ebay/ Freecycle set up!) SB Boom, Logitech Z4 subwoofer SB Radio LMS 7.8.0 running on WHS 2011 on a HP Prolaint Microserver Orange Squeeze/ Squeeze Commander on Google Nexus 7 and HTC One JonWill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20259 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JonWill wrote: > I'd be interested i understanding how this works - do you point the > Sonos system to LMS for its music library? And how does syncing work, > other than by trying to rpess play at the same time :) If I could move > slowly over to a mixed economy that would be ideal ... It is at the same time more simple and less elegant :-) Sonos cannot point to LMS, they ignore each other. What Sonos does well is distributing analog source connected to the line-in of any capable device (a play:5 or a connect) to any other device in the Sonos system and keeping them fully in sync. So it is as simple as connecting the line-out of a SB3 or a Touch or a Receiver to any Sonos device with Line-In. Then _that_ Squeezebox device becomes your bridge. In other words, you have to always play on that SB device to be able to listen to your music on the Sonos system. The Sonos is, to some extend, just used as wireless speakers with enhanced synchronization capabilities. What is amazing is that when I tried that, I was expecting the Sonos system to delay the analog input to a few 100ms and have to delay all my Squeezebox devices to take that into account, I was expecting awfull jitter at all - well, not at all (and I've been using that for almost 2 years). There is no audible delay between an analog input of a Sonos system and that same music forwarded to any other sonos devices - this is just instant "forward" So, what is played on my Sonos "extensions" is fully controlled by my Squeezebox system (I use iPeng a lot, it is really a great piece of software). The only time when I use the Sonos controller is to mute / unmute / group Sonos speakers as, again, all the Sonos speakers appears as "one single entity" to the SB system. But that's all. Of course, at any time, you can ask the Sonos system to play something else than the line-in of (eg) a Play:5. The Sonos system is pointing to the same folder containing my music, so everything is as well available "natively" Say you have Kitchen : Boombox Dinner room : SB3 on amplifier speakers Bedroom : Radio you add Sonos devices Dinner room : Play:5 Bedroom : 2xSonos:1 Connect line-out of SB3 to the Play:5 line-in using a Y connector To play on the Sonos(Dinner) or Sonos(Bedroom), the caveat is that you have to play on SB(Kitchen). On Sonos, configure it to re-play Sonos(Dinner:LineIn) to Sonos(Bedroom) and/or Sonos(Dinner). Using your prefered SB controller, then do what you used to do, and all speakers in Bedroom will play in perfect sync, although they are a combo of Sonos and Squeezebox. If you want to switch off Sonos(Dinner) or Sonos(Bedroom), use the Sonos application on your preferred smartphone. You can also dedicated an "old" Squeezebox receiver to be the bridge between the system, not connected to any speaker - in that case, no annoyance of having mandatory sound to be heard in one room to bridge to Sonos. I feel it is a very smooth transition or a very good combo philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1 > Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at > the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3 > and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably intregrated with > LMS system. LMS is still the center, but I the Sonos:5 acts as a gateway > between the 2 systems using the SB Touch and, to my real surprise, the > synchronization between the 2 system is absolutely perfect. I'm really > amazed as there is no audible lag between the 2 and it can last for > hours. Of course, I have to move to Sonos controller when I want to > switch on/off the Sonos speakers, but at the end, this is a really good > setting - I still love my SB system (still improving it :-)) This is interesting. So LMS controls the Sonos units (outside of power on/off)? Are all the LMS plug-ins available? 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller of choice. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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philippe_44 wrote: > I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1 > Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at > the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3 > and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably intregrated with > LMS system. LMS is still the center, but I the Sonos:5 acts as a gateway > between the 2 systems using the SB Touch and, to my real surprise, the > synchronization between the 2 system is absolutely perfect. I'm really > amazed as there is no audible lag between the 2 and it can last for > hours. Of course, I have to move to Sonos controller when I want to > switch on/off the Sonos speakers, but at the end, this is a really good > setting - I still love my SB system (still improving it :-)) I'd be interested i understanding how this works - do you point the Sonos system to LMS for its music library? And how does syncing work, other than by trying to rpess play at the same time :) If I could move slowly over to a mixed economy that would be ideal ... Main system: SB Touch, Arcam A85, Tannoy V4i speakers SB Classic into JVC R-1XL Stereo Receiver and JPW bookshelf speakers (an Ebay/ Freecycle set up!) SB Boom, Logitech Z4 subwoofer SB Radio LMS 7.8.0 running on WHS 2011 on a HP Prolaint Microserver Orange Squeeze/ Squeeze Commander on Google Nexus 7 and HTC One JonWill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20259 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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paulster wrote: > I used to use MOG, and now I use Spotify, so I'm a paid streaming > service customer. I do know that Rhapsody is a problem, but there are > perfectly viable alternatives that work just fine. That's very good to know, thank you! atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1 Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3 and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably intregrated with LMS system. LMS is still the center, but I the Sonos:5 acts as a gateway between the 2 systems and, to my real surprise, the synchronization between the 2 system is absolutely perfect. I'm really amazed as there is no audible lag between the 2 and it can last for hours. Of course, I have to move to Sonos controller when I want to switch on/off the Sonos speaker, but at the end, this is a really good setting - I still love my SB system (still improving it :-)) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I used to use MOG, and now I use Spotify, so I'm a paid streaming service customer. I do know that Rhapsody is a problem, but there are perfectly viable alternatives that work just fine. Two track 1's and no track 2 after a scan for new and changed? Please vote for serious scanning bug '17782' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17782) Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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paulster wrote: > I have a load of Logitech SB hardware, but I've taken it all out of > service now. All of my Squeezelite-powered units sync perfectly, play > high-res audio, and do everything and more than the Logitech hardware > that preceded them did. Only issue I've had with unofficial hardware is an inability to play the pay streaming services, or at least Rhapsody. In my case, it's a minor issue, but I could see it being a showstopper for others. atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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GeeJay wrote: > I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB. There are some > interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices > don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come > out with an LMS compatible device. Hell, even highly-touted "audiophile > quality" devices that cost thousands of dollars can't do what I want > them to do. I have a load of Logitech SB hardware, but I've taken it all out of service now. All of my Squeezelite-powered units sync perfectly, play high-res audio, and do everything and more than the Logitech hardware that preceded them did. Two track 1's and no track 2 after a scan for new and changed? Please vote for serious scanning bug '17782' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17782) Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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And some wifi problems does not usually means that the device is broken . OP migth be trying to solve the wrong problem ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB. There are some interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come out with an LMS compatible device. Hell, even highly-touted "audiophile quality" devices that cost thousands of dollars can't do what I want them to do. I'll bide my time, and if one of my SBs break down I'll either buy a used one on eBay (at a premium over what I paid, but still cheaper than inferior alternatives), or figure out how to build one myself. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Get an Android box, see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102125-Android-Media-Player-as-squeezebox-replacement yxz11's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cliveb wrote: > For a useable multi-room streaming system, LMS remains a very sensible > choice. And as much as we all like to scratch our heads and wonder what Logitech was thinking, I'm very grateful to them and to SlimDevices for getting us to this point. Given how much interest there still is in the system and how many of us have concluded that there's still nothing better, it seems like it would be pretty easy for Logitech to get back into the game if they ever wanted to. For some reason, this makes me think of Fiesta, a popular American line of dinnerware that was pulled from production by its manufacturer. After a few years of watching prices for used pieces skyrocket, they realized they were missing out and began making the stuff again. Of course, the salad plates didn't do such a great job of decoding FLAC... atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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atrocity wrote: > The software is under active development. Logitech-manufactured > hardware is out of production, but there's no shortage of low-cost > alternatives that work great with LMS. Quite so. And in the context of running an LMS-based system, the hardware is a secondary consideration: you will always be able to build/acquire suitable hardware. If you jump ship to another system, however, where are you going to go? If you want to ensure you'll always be able to get hardware that fits in, you're basically condemning yourself to living with the hell that is DLNA. To avoid that, I suppose you can switch to Sonos. But now you really *are* locking yourself into one vendor's hardware. For a useable multi-room streaming system, LMS remains a very sensible choice. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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gb115b wrote: > wow, thanks! not many squeezebox 3s on the uk ebay site sadly... and i > wonder if i'm just putting off the inevitable (given that hardware and > software are no longer readily available, maybe it's time to call it > quits?). it's a real shame what logitech did to slimdevices. The software is under active development. Logitech-manufactured hardware is out of production, but there's no shortage of low-cost alternatives that work great with LMS. atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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cparker wrote: > Also search on LastFM player on ebay, I picked up a cheap fully working > Duet pair this way, the seller had no idea what they were actually > selling, it was still running the original firmware! Ouch :) wow, thanks! not many squeezebox 3s on the uk ebay site sadly... and i wonder if i'm just putting off the inevitable (given that hardware and software are no longer readily available, maybe it's time to call it quits?). it's a real shame what logitech did to slimdevices. gb115b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1781 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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get.amped wrote: > If the Boom and Radio are fine, fully functional SB3s are routinely > available on e-bay for under $150 USD. I recently picked up 3 for $125 > each for some friends who were envious of my system. Also search on LastFM player on ebay, I picked up a cheap fully working Duet pair this way, the seller had no idea what they were actually selling, it was still running the original firmware! Ouch :) www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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If the Boom and Radio are fine, fully functional SB3s are routinely available on e-bay for under $150 USD. I recently picked up 3 for $125 each for some friends who were envious of my system. Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.9.0 -> Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 -> Cambridge Audio DacMagic -> NAD C160 -> 2 x NAD C272 -> Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I know the OP said they had limited time available for tinkering, but I've got a couple of Raspberry Pi running piCorePlayer, which uses Squeezelite, and has a web UI for admin and setup tasks. I'm using one with a HiFiBerry DAC, the other with a USB Headphone DAC. They really didn't take very long to setup and perform pretty well in my opinion. Robert Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 and Naim CD3) 2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 SqueezePad, iPeng, Squeezeplay, piCorePlayer/HiFiBerry, piCorePlayer>DacMagic XS QNAP TS-239, LMS 7.8 last.fm/user/GrumpyBob Grumpy Bob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi, are you running the player wireless and if so have you looked into the wireless signal where the player is located. The lms information page lists the signal strength. Check the power supply, make sure it is seated and not causing a problem if you jiggle it. The SB3 WiFi cards becoming unseated is also a problem some have reported (even if running wired). Reseat the card or last resort remove it. Hopefully others will provide additional guidance, report back if you figure out! Squeezeplug requires very little configuration when running on supported hardware, squeezelite. ( the player plugin) has good sync. Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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gb115b wrote: > I saw something called squeezeplug which sounded like it could be > good. I guess my big worry on these ones is the multi-room synching > aspect. Squeezeplug is the name for a modified version of debian with install scripts for LMS and players - it runs on Raspi or Odroid devices. The player is squeezelite - you'd probably need a usb audio dongle or dac plus speakers. Should sync okay. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker (mothballed) Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
johnas wrote: > I would try and trouble shoot your hardware issues first before pulling > the plug. If you post details on your problems users here will do their > best to help you. > > Also, if you are happy with LMS and the Squeezebox eco system there are > lots of options for building your own players (PiCoreplayer on RPi, > Squeeze on Arch etc). I'm assuming it's just down to failing hardware, but basically my Squeezebox 3 becomes unresponsive shortly after beginning playback, first it goes into 'buffering' state, but it doesn't seem to recover and doesn't respond to the remote, requiring me to power off and on again. - note this all used to work fine, and my Boom and Radio still chug along nicely in the other rooms. is anyone selling prepackaged players like that... I don't really have the time for tinkering that I used to, and kind of just want a system that works! as for rolling your own are there any recommended configs (or are they all pretty similar?). I saw something called squeezeplug which sounded like it could be good. I guess my big worry on these ones is the multi-room synching aspect. gb115b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1781 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
I would try and trouble shoot your hardware issues first before pulling the plug. If you post details on your problems users here will do their best to help you. Also, if you are happy with LMS and the Squeezebox eco system there are lots of options for building your own players (PiCoreplayer on RPi, Squeeze on Arch etc). gb115b wrote: > Hi, my squeezeboxen seem to be suffering from hardware issues now, and > with Logitech pulling the rug out on us, I was wondering what people > recommend for replacements. is it time to move to a new system? > > I need something with support for: > FLAC > Multiple Artists in Tags (so that rules out Sonos?). > Gapless Output. > Multiple synched player support. > also ideally 24-bit / 96Khz or 192 kHz support. johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Replacement system recommendations
Hi, my squeezeboxen seem to be suffering from hardware issues now, and with Logitech pulling the rug out on us, I was wondering what people recommend for replacements. is it time to move to a new system? I need something with support for: FLAC Multiple Artists in Tags (so that rules out Sonos?). Gapless Output. Multiple synched player support. also ideally 24-bit / 96Khz or 192 kHz support. gb115b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1781 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
