Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I've just sat down to put some music on, and I noticed that the volume setting for all my players are much lower than they were when I switched them off - some at zero. A snippet from the log file is attached. It looks to me as though the volumes were all normal at 22:13:58.5485 yesterday evening, but 6 seconds later they all got set to lower values, apparently by iPeng. The messages that make me suspect iPeng are of the sort: Code: [21-03-30 22:14:04.9091] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2339) Request: Command [7c:9e:bd:28:42:24->mixer volume] from JSONRPC (Dispatchable) [21-03-30 22:14:04.9095] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2343)Param: [_newvalue] = [-1] [21-03-30 22:14:04.9099] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2343)Param: [_p3] = [ipeng:1] [21-03-30 22:14:04.9112] Slim::Control::Request::notifyFromArray (842) (prefset server volume 0) [21-03-30 22:14:04.9122] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2339) Request: Command [7c:9e:bd:28:42:24->mixer volume] from JSONRPC (Done) [21-03-30 22:14:04.9127] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2343)Param: [_newvalue] = [-1] [21-03-30 22:14:04.9130] Slim::Control::Request::dump (2343)Param: [_p3] = [ipeng:1] Am I reading that correctly - does 'Param: [_p3] = [ipeng:1]' mean that the preceding mixer volume command was issued by ipeng? Again, I was not interacting with iPeng at all at that time. +---+ |Filename: volume change server 2.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34027| +---+ chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
On a few, very rare occasions I have heard spontaneous changes in volume while listening. What's much more commonplace is that I will notice a player is silent and discover its volume has been set to zero. Background: I have eight players that are almost always synchronized. They are hardly ever turned off, even when not playing. Three of them are connected over ethernet; the other five are on wifi. All of the wifi players use the Airplay bridge. Two of the wifi players have volume control enabled. All the other players are locked at 100% volume. So only two players out of eight actually experience volume changes. Sometimes I find that one of the players locked at 100% displays 0 volume, although it continues to play. I am reasonably confident this has happened in Material, but I don't know if the false 0 volume has appeared in the default interface. Other than using Airplay, I avoid Apple products, so ipeng is not a factor. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > Not sure at all. Youll need to test/ask Craig. I currently have no > Group Players to seriously test with.I just tested it and the only way to > tell if one of the players in the group is set to zero volume is to change the displayed player to that player. So it doesn't help for group players. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
slartibartfast wrote: > How does that work with group players? The group player volume is 100% > but the players in the group might be 0%. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Not sure at all. Youll need to test/ask Craig. I currently have no Group Players to seriously test with. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
the_arm wrote: > Was your log captured by using player.sync at debug like you mentioned > earlier in the thread? > I currently have seven logs set to Debug: control.command control.queries control.stdio player.streaming player.streaming.direct player.streaming.remote player.sync I'm not sure which one captured the 'Request: Command [7c:9e:bd:28:42:24->mixer volume] from JSONRPC (Dispatchable)' message - I'm guessing it was control.command. I'm by no means sure that iPeng is implicated, and the last thing I want to do is point a finger without justification. It's possible, for instance, that the commands I think I'm seeing are actually LMS updating iPeng in response to a volume change that was triggered some other way. That's why I'd be really keen for someone with more idea about what the logs show to take a look at my log file. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > Have you seen player volume dropping to zero during playback, or was it > already at zero when you started playback (making it the former case)? Hello again - just jumping back into this thread. I've personally not seen the volume drop to zero during playback. I believe it's predominantly when turning the player (SB Touch as part of a sync group) back on, but I can't say for certain that the player was always off, sometimes I'm lazy and leave it on pause. All I can say is that when I come back to the player and press play (via the LMS app) I notice the volume is zero. I was going to say I don't have ipeng but I realized I actually did on a very ancient ipad. The app is never used, but the ipad was on. I just uninstalled ipeng just to see if that does anything. Was your log captured by using player.sync at debug like you mentioned earlier in the thread? Thanks! the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I asked Craig to put an indicator in Material when volume is zero but > the player being controlled is actually playing - he has implemented as > a pulse of the volume display.How does that work with group players? The > group player volume is 100% but the players in the group might be 0%. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
slartibartfast wrote: > I haven't seen volumes change after playback has started..I generally > start playback hear nothing and then notice the volume is zero. I have > wondered if Spotify is involved. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I asked Craig to put an indicator in Material when volume is zero but the player being controlled is actually playing - he has implemented as a pulse of the volume display. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > I think I've seen the kind of interactions that you mentioned in that > thread. But I think this is different because I was not actively using > iPeng (or my phone) at the time. I'm not certain that iPeng is > implicated - that's just my inexperienced interpretation of the log > file. > > > > I've seen two types of behaviour that I assumed were related, but maybe > they're not after all. The first was the volume on one player being set > to zero at start up, and the other is volume reductions during playback. > My logfile above is for the latter case. Have you seen player volume > dropping to zero during playback, or was it already at zero when you > started playback (making it the former case)?I haven't seen volumes change > after playback has started..I generally start playback hear nothing and then notice the volume is zero. I have wondered if Spotify is involved. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
pputzer wrote: > I haven't looked at the log file, but it is not unthinkable that iPeng > is involved. I've recently reported 'strange volume changes in > conjunction with iPeng' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-thread/page816). > Apparently, iPeng is compiled as a music app, which means it has some > special privileges on iOS (resulting, ahem, emergent and non-intuitive > interactions with the system). I think I've seen the kind of interactions that you mentioned in that thread. But I think this is different because I was not actively using iPeng (or my phone) at the time. I'm not certain that iPeng is implicated - that's just my inexperienced interpretation of the log file. slartibartfast wrote: > I see volumes suddenly falling to zero and I don't use iPeng. > I've seen two types of behaviour that I assumed were related, but maybe they're not after all. The first was the volume on one player being set to zero at start up, and the other is volume reductions during playback. My logfile above is for the latter case. Have you seen player volume dropping to zero during playback, or was it already at zero when you started playback (making it the former case)? chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
pputzer wrote: > I haven't looked at the log file, but it is not unthinkable that iPeng > is involved. I've recently reported 'strange volume changes in > conjunction with iPeng' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-thread/page816). > Apparently, iPeng is compiled as a music app, which means it has some > special privileges on iOS (resulting, ahem, emergent and non-intuitive > interactions with the system). > > > Gesendet von iPad mit TapatalkI see volumes suddenly falling to zero and I > don't use iPeng. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > I'm no expert, so does this look to anyone else as though the mixer > volume change request was initiated by iPeng at [21-03-29 > 18:24:00.4061]? That would be odd if so, because my phone was lying > untouched on the table. I don't recall exactly when was the last time I > had iPeng in the foreground, but it was definitely before I turned the > Group Player on at around 18:13:51. I haven't looked at the log file, but it is not unthinkable that iPeng is involved. I've recently reported 'strange volume changes in conjunction with iPeng' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?51929-iPeng-support-thread/page816). Apparently, iPeng is compiled as a music app, which means it has some special privileges on iOS (resulting, ahem, emergent and non-intuitive interactions with the system). Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk pputzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I'd appreciate the opinion of anyone who has experience with log files. I just had the spontaneous volume reduction happen again, this time while streaming Greatest Hits Radio on a Group Player that combines two Booms, a DAC32 and a pCP. I've trimmed the attached log file down to the 10 minutes or so from when the Group Player was turned on before the volume changed, plus a short period afterwards. I'm no expert, so does this look to anyone else as though the mixer volume change request was initiated by iPeng at [21-03-29 18:24:00.4061]? That would be odd if so, because my phone was lying untouched on the table. I don't recall exactly when was the last time I had iPeng in the foreground, but it was definitely before I turned the Group Player on at around 18:13:51. +---+ |Filename: volume change server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33996| +---+ chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I just had it happen again - my kitchen Boom was (soft) powered off, and when I turned it on it came on with zero volume. The volume of the other players wasn't affected though - so it seems like a different variant of the problem. As far as I can tell from the server log, the kitchen Boom simply came on with [mixer volume] = [0]. I would not have turned it off in that state. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
Just cautiously asking - maybe the problem be outside group player? There were some threads about a spontaneous increase of the volume? I had this on a no-grouped AirPlay speaker (well - it is grouped, but it was not playing through the group)? I am using no upnp player android devices, but iPeng. So the problem could be a “sudden volume change”? Rainer > On 25 Mar 2021, at 11:02, slartibartfast > wrote: > > > I have noticed this happening sometimes as well but never figured out > why or when. In my case it seems to be the volume of a player that is a > member of a group player gets set to zero but only when not in the > group. I'll try to pay more attention if it happens again. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk > > > > > > slartibartfast's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I have noticed this happening sometimes as well but never figured out why or when. In my case it seems to be the volume of a player that is a member of a group player gets set to zero but only when not in the group. I'll try to pay more attention if it happens again. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
philchillbill wrote: > Yes she does respond to recordings mentioning her name One of the songs that we played last year ... https://theburninghell.bandcamp.com/album/never-work I remember we had another one this year but can't find it right now (Alexa not in the title). My recollection is that Amazon do have some back-end tricks to avoid some triggering - particularly from TV programmes. I think they spot the simultaneous launches from lots of TVs and then capture that sound pattern and (eventually) blacklist it so that it does not happen on repeats. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
philchillbill wrote: > > p.s. Where's the denial that you would ever, ever listen to anything by > Justin Bieber? :rolleyes: Haha - I assumed it didn't need saying. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > Out of interest, does Alexa respond in that sort of situation? I know > there'd be feedback if she did, so I know she's not the cause of this > volume issue. But on my iPhone for instance, I'm unable to play a video > that includes me saying 'Hey Siri', because Siri will immediately > interrupt the video and try and do whatever she heard in the video. Yes she does respond to recordings mentioning her name (unless you have enabled the option to only respond to your voice, but then you have to train her). By the way, if you did suspect it was Alexa you could enable logging in ngrok and see every incoming jsonrpc POST through your tunnel. The "inspect: false" in your .yml file inhibits this but if you either remove that line or change it to 'true' then in the :4040 web interface for ngrok you can see all the traffic in real time. p.s. Where's the denial that you would ever, ever listen to anything by Justin Bieber? :rolleyes: philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > > My sync was via a Group Player. I don't currently have a group player set up, so that's another thing to cross off the list of possible causes. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I clicked pause, I clicked play, I powered my amp off and on and did a > fair bit more head scratching before I noticed 0% I did the same. I know to look out for it now, but it was puzzling the first time it happened. philchillbill wrote: > At the times of the volume dips, are you by any chance listening to > Justin Biebers new single Alexa, turn the volume down baby? [emoji23] I think you've nailed it! Out of interest, does Alexa respond in that sort of situation? I know there'd be feedback if she did, so I know she's not the cause of this volume issue. But on my iPhone for instance, I'm unable to play a video that includes me saying 'Hey Siri', because Siri will immediately interrupt the video and try and do whatever she heard in the video. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > Ah, ok - I don't have any upnp players. My two pCPs both have the > latest Squeezelite which I believe was released to fix an issue with > inverted audio and the new balance control. I'm using neither of those > options, and I believe my volume problem pre-dates that new version of > Squeezelite. For completeness, neither of the Pis is actually audible, > since I've temporarily switched inputs on my main amp to use the DAC32, > and the other one plays through the TV only if I'm on the right channel. > But both instances of Squeezelite are 'on' and synced. > > Wracking my brain for other 'new' things that might be responsible. I'm > loathe to fling any more wild accusations around, as I may have done > with the DAC32 (given that @the_arm doesn't have one)! I've had an Echo > dot running philchillbill's Alexa skills for a while now, but the > problem started quite a long time after I first started using that. And > I'm pretty sure I haven't been inadvertently operating the volume > buttons on my iPhone that has iPeng running in the background (and I've > been using iPeng for so long that this new problem is not likely to have > anything to do with it). At the times of the volume dips, are you by any chance listening to Justin Biebers new single Alexa, turn the volume down baby? [emoji23] philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I too have been using Material but I cant see that being the cause BUT when my player went to zero I didnt notice the fact in Material for some while. I clicked pause, I clicked play, I powered my amp off and on and did a fair bit more head scratching before I noticed 0% in Material. As a bi product of this do you guys think it would be a good upgrade of material to show 0% with a red background or something if the player is playing? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > Wracking my brain for other 'new' things that might be responsible.. With the exception of increased reliance on Material Skin and the Android-app version of it (phones, Kindle Fire) as well as keeping my LMS up to date nothing has changed in my setup in ages that I can think of! the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
philippe_44 wrote: > UPnP players does not have the capability to change volume unless > players have volume sync in which case it's normal LMS behavior when > volume changes I only mentioned it as I was doing A/B tests the other day with a synced Pi, DAC32 and Upnp player all through a Denon Ceol. Pi on Analogue 1, DAC32 on Analogue 2 and upnp on Net. Twice I experienced a zero volume scenario after switching to one of the Analogue inputs but I didnt register the precise scenario or pay too much attention to it. I wondered if Chill also had a upnp player thats all. My sync was via a Group Player. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I asked about other players as I have seen it when using a upnp player > and switching back to a Pi UPnP players does not have the capability to change volume unless players have volume sync in which case it's normal LMS behavior when volume changes LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
the_arm wrote: > I'm happy to do the same - any advice on what I should enable to capture > the info? I've also enabled Debug logging for the three 'control.' logs, and the three 'player.streaming' logs. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I asked about other players as I have seen it when using a upnp player > and switching back to a Pi Ah, ok - I don't have any upnp players. My two pCPs both have the latest Squeezelite which I believe was released to fix an issue with inverted audio and the new balance control. I'm using neither of those options, and I believe my volume problem pre-dates that new version of Squeezelite. For completeness, neither of the Pis is actually audible, since I've temporarily switched inputs on my main amp to use the DAC32, and the other one plays through the TV only if I'm on the right channel. But both instances of Squeezelite are 'on' and synced. Wracking my brain for other 'new' things that might be responsible. I'm loathe to fling any more wild accusations around, as I may have done with the DAC32 (given that @the_arm doesn't have one)! I've had an Echo dot running philchillbill's Alexa skills for a while now, but the problem started quite a long time after I first started using that. And I'm pretty sure I haven't been inadvertently operating the volume buttons on my iPhone that has iPeng running in the background (and I've been using iPeng for so long that this new problem is not likely to have anything to do with it). chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I asked about other players as I have seen it when using a upnp player > and switching back to a Pi Got it. I don't have any non-branded-oldschool-logitech players on my network. (Yet!). 1 Boom, 3 Radios, 1 Squeezebox3, 1 Receiver and 1 Touch. the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
I asked about other players as I have seen it when using a upnp player and switching back to a Pi VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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chill wrote: > Actually that's not true - I have noticed it once or twice during > playback. I wasn't anywhere near any of the controls, and the volume > just reduced without me doing anything. I assumed the radio station had > accidentally turned the playback volume down. Good point, and I honestly don't use the group enough to say one way or another. The group is not in use WAY more than it is in use... the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
the_arm wrote: > I'm happy to do the same - any advice on what I should enable to capture > the info? Not really! There are a lot of logging options, and I have no idea which ones would show a volume change. I've set player.sync to Debug. I'll keep looking. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm happy to do the same - any advice on what I should enable to capture the info? the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
chill wrote: > That's exactly what I'm experiencing too. > Actually that's not true - I have noticed it once or twice during playback. I wasn't anywhere near any of the controls, and the volume just reduced without me doing anything. I assumed the radio station had accidentally turned the playback volume down. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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the_arm wrote: > It's never happened to me during playback but it just seems that > randomly I'll come back to the group, hit play, and two players "work" > and the touch is at zero volume. > That's exactly what I'm experiencing too. I do also have three Jogglers around the house running Jivelite. The screensaver I'm running causes occasional crashes on a couple of them, but that was happening for a long time before the volume changes started happening. I'll enable some server logging to see if there are any clues the next time it happens. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Wow, hey, I've been noticing the same thing! I have a sync group consisting of one SB Touch, one SB Radio, and one SB Duet-Receiver. It's always the SB Touch that is spontaneously at 0 volume. It's never happened to me during playback but it just seems that randomly I'll come back to the group, hit play, and two players "work" and the touch is at zero volume. I try to keep everything up to date and it's a relatively recent phenomenon. I do use Material skin, and I have an android tablet (actually a kindle fire) that is more or less permanently running the android material app (sideloaded) with the SB Touch selected as what's being displayed/controlled in the group. I had recently power cycled the Touch hoping that would fix it (it didn't) and was next going to just power off the tablet for a while to see if that had anything to do with it? It doesn't seem likely though since I've been running that app for quite some time and it pre-dates this phenomenon. I'm running LMS on a mac on Mojave. Thanks! the_arm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Two Booms and two pCPs. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
What else is in the sync group? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
For a week or two now I've been experiencing my synced players spontaneously going quiet without me apparently doing anything. I can't put my finger on what's causing it. I have a niggling feeling it's something to do with the DAC32, because it's part of the sync group that's experiencing the volume reductions, and whenever it happens I see that the DAC32's volume has reduced to zero, while other players that may have been louder to start with still have a non-zero volume. It could also be related to the fact that I started listening to Greatest Hits radio more frequently. Or it could have been an LMS update (currently on Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1614413430). I've checked the obvious things that I can think of - I'm not using any volume adjustment, and the synced players don't have synced volume. So I'll obviously have to do some trouble-shooting, but I wondered whether anyone else was experiencing similar. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
