Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
slartibartfast wrote: > Have you ever known any tech support to be good? They generally aren't > remotely technical and follow a script. The only tech support worth the > name is from engineers who know the products inside out. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Once in a while I will get lucky and find good support . Some commercial vendors and Apple have been good to me, but it's rare. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
ftlight wrote: > Yes, unfortunately there are actually very few devices that the hub can > control by either IP or Bluetooth. This page lists them: > https://atlantic-cable.com/Ephemera/Broadsides/index.htm > > However, if you can work with IR, it's a very flexible system. I have > one in my main listening/watching room controlling seven devices with > five activities and find it very convenient. I hooked it up to my > Google Home system, so I can say "Hey Google. Turn on TV" (or whatever I > want) and all the correct devices and inputs are selected. I don't know if this is true for IP, but for Bluetooth it sometimes needs a helping hand to get it working. The problem is sometimes setup will not offer to setup Bluetooth when Harmony's database is wrong/out of date, . I have run into this with Android TV devices and the fix is to "lie" to the setup telling it you have another model to coax it into offering bluetooth setup. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
ftlight wrote: > Yes, unfortunately there are actually very few devices that the hub can > control by either IP or Bluetooth. This page lists them: > https://atlantic-cable.com/Ephemera/Broadsides/index.htm > > However, if you can work with IR, it's a very flexible system. I have > one in my main listening/watching room controlling seven devices with > five activities and find it very convenient. I hooked it up to my > Google Home system, so I can say "Hey Google. Turn on TV" (or whatever I > want) and all the correct devices and inputs are selected. With my main TV, a Sammy Q9FN 75, and most of the other TVs in my house are also Sammy's, I have to use IR extenders for all of them. Just not practical for me but they all use Bluetooth remotes. Another problem is that Sammy, in their finite wisdom, decided to cripple their (even their flagship) TVs by completely shutting off IP control after a short period after turning off the TV. Thus, IP control is not possible after a short time. Having a uni-remote system (which I though the Harmony system was) with IP and Bluetooth seems to be a necessity these days. But then, I understand the market may be small since too many people seem content to use their phones (or voice) for everything (I don't carry my phone everywhere I go .. I use my cell phone almost exclusively for outgoing phone calls, and web browsing only when I am not at home and "smart" speakers are not really very smart) and the economics of adding those features may just not have been justified. So, I guess I'll be looking at kludging a JP1 or similar and some bluetooth devices for full household control. NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
fletch wrote: > > > Support thought they remote was broken and told me to send it back. > > The remotes are great once setup.. just the setup software and their > tech support is very poor. > Have you ever known any tech support to be good? They generally aren't remotely technical and follow a script. The only tech support worth the name is from engineers who know the products inside out. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
NFLnut wrote: > I bought a hub/remote system from Best Buy a few weeks ago when I heard > the news. Had been on the fence for a couple of years. So far, I am not > impressed (but I may just not understand yet how the system works) as > very LITTLE of what I need to control is centralized where I can run IR > extenders to each box. I was of the understanding that with the hub I > could control everything via IP control. Yes, unfortunately there are actually very few devices that the hub can control by either IP or Bluetooth. This page lists them: https://atlantic-cable.com/Ephemera/Broadsides/index.htm However, if you can work with IR, it's a very flexible system. I have one in my main listening/watching room controlling seven devices with five activities and find it very convenient. I hooked it up to my Google Home system, so I can say "Hey Google. Turn on TV" (or whatever I want) and all the correct devices and inputs are selected. ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I also bought a backup from Best buy. I had the "lower end" smart model on both my main tv and bedroom tv. That one was no longer available new so I went the other route and went with high end model, The Elite. It's nice but it's overkill and I ran into some bugs with the setup software that I have never encountered with the Smart remotes. Basically it would not let me remap certain keys as it claimed they were not available. Yet if you use their other app, those keys are there and then it was an easy fix. Support thought they remote was broken and told me to send it back. The remotes are great once setup.. just the setup software and their tech support is very poor. So if you have many devices/complicated setup - yes it is worth it to me. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I bought a hub/remote system from Best Buy a few weeks ago when I heard the news. Had been on the fence for a couple of years. So far, I am not impressed (but I may just not understand yet how the system works) as very LITTLE of what I need to control is centralized where I can run IR extenders to each box. I was of the understanding that with the hub I could control everything via IP control. NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Logitech...where innovative products go to die. After Logitech bought the Canadian company Harmony, they screwed up the programming software making the UI harder to use and constant USB cable problems. I would have to provide tech support to my brother and friend because it was so hard to use. That's why it died. I am Roku/Echo based now and use iPeng so no need for for a Harmony anymore as I retired my legacy stereo systems to go to active speakers. earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I got my remote and dont know why I didn't do it years ago. Makes life simpler. I see Walmart Canada sells them in their website, or rather a website merchant does. About 50% premium over the list price. Says it isn't in manufacturer's packaging to save shipping space. Allegedly "new condition". Is it reasonable to get a backup? It's really a question of how long I can reasonably expect my new/refurbished one will last. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
RonM wrote: > I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as > the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been > giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So > was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing. > > I did a search locally (Toronto area), and found that some branches of > The Source electronic stores (which bought the legacy Radio Shack > business in Canada) were listing "limited availability" of the remotes > tried several, no dice, but finally found a single 665 at a store 45 > minutes away. Nice country drive for COVID lockdown time. > > I see that refurbished units are selling at steep prices online, > sometimes upwards of $150; this one is still list at C$60. > > EDIT - I called the location to confirm that I was picking it up today. > . . AND THEY HAD SOLD IT! Bummer. > > R. I was able to order a "refurbished" one with a warranty through BestBuy Canada (from a third party reseller), at a modest premium relative to new. There were several The Source outlets that had them listed in inventory, but these were all returns that they couldn't sell. With luck they are fully functional buyers-remorse returns and they get sent to my "refurbished" seller for onward sale. As far as I can see there are no others available in Canada, other than outlandishly expensive ones on eBay, with shipping to Canada that is more than the cost of the remote. r. r. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
The US closeout site Woot (a division of Amazon) has a few Harmony remotes listed today. https://electronics.woot.com/plus/logitech-remotes Unfortunately, I think they only sell to the "lower 48" US states. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
RonM wrote: > I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as > the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been > giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So > was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing. > > I did a search locally (Toronto area), and found that some branches of > The Source electronic stores (which bought the legacy Radio Shack > business in Canada) were listing "limited availability" of the remotes > tried several, no dice, but finally found a single 665 at a store 45 > minutes away. Nice country drive for COVID lockdown time. > > I see that refurbished units are selling at steep prices online, > sometimes upwards of $150; this one is still list at C$60. > > EDIT - I called the location to confirm that I was picking it up today. > . . AND THEY HAD SOLD IT! Bummer. > R.s You can still find new ones on Ebay (via BB) but best buy is getting retail plus prices for them I just got my shipping notice about 15 min ago and when I checked Best buy had raised the price $30,00 more from when I ordered 2 days ago. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I'd been meaning to get a Harmony remote for some time, especially as the power button on the remote for my older Sony Receiver has been giving out and would cost a fair bit to get a dedicated replacement. So was pissed-off when I found they were discontinuing. I did a search locally (Toronto area), and found that some branches of The Source electronic stores (which bought the legacy Radio Shack business in Canada) were listing "limited availability" of the remotes tried several, no dice, but finally found a single 665 at a store 45 minutes away. Nice country drive for COVID lockdown time. I see that refurbished units are selling at steep prices online, sometimes upwards of $150; this one is still list at C$60. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
gordonb3 wrote: > Never really understood why LMS requires me to connect to a Logitech > account as well That can be disabled by you. Although if a lot of people did it then Logitech may well decide that there is no longer a justification for keeping mysqueezebox.com running and so all of the services that still rely on it would stop working for everyone else. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Pretty fond of the Hub I got running for controlling TV, set-top box and Dune media player. I am somewhat annoyed though about the fact that it requires internet access to allow LAN access through the phone app and home automation services. Never really understood why LMS requires me to connect to a Logitech account as well and here is all the political fuzz about Huawei and Xiaomi allegedly spying on whatever users of their hardware do. So did anyone ever research what it sends and expects in return? Knowing that would allow setting up a fake web server and not needing to worry that it may be taken down at some point (like Zappiti did with their Dune indexing app). gordonb3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Just read this in Wired: How the Smart Remote Lost Its Way https://www.wired.com/story/logitech-harmony-smart-remote-lost-its-way It mentions a guy that repairs Harmony Remotes: https://www.harmonyremoterepair.com/#/ Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
danco wrote: > Yes, I think you are right, and the One For All may have been a mistake > for the reasons you give. Unfortunately it came in one of those plastic > containers that have to be destroyed to get into them, so I can't return > it. > > But it only cost a few pounds, so no great problem. > > The Harmony strikes me as too expensive to make sense. Having a bunch of > remotes to use rather than just one is annoying but I find it hard to > justify the cost of a Harmony for myself, and wonder why anyone would > pay that much. At one time you could get the hub and the smart remote for under $60.0. And even that basic model had lots of undocumented features like voice control on Android tv or fire tv. Google never got this fully working last time I checked but the hub could do it with programming on your part. It could do automations like turning the tv on when you walk in the back door after a certain time, etc. Harmony never advertised this because this was for techies not your average consumer. The setup software was a pain and it would say it can't do that when it could- you just had to know how to "lie" back at it. Once I learned the tricks , I realized Harmony was much better than what was advertised. Logitech has some really nice technology, it's just they don't know how to get the word out. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Come on everybody-it could be a lot worse. Logitech could be dropping other things if you catch my drift. I don't want to say it out loud. Living Room: Pi3 w/Allo Digione Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 8.0 and SqueezeLite Pioneer Elite VSX 80, Parasound 2125 v2 KEF LS50's, Paradigm SE Center, SVS SB12-NSD Subwoofer, Paradigm Atom v.5 Surrounds Harmony Smart Control w/Hub and iPeng Dining Room: KEF Q100's Bedroom: Logitech Boom Porch: Boston Acoustics Voyager Metro II Router: Netgear R700P File Storage: Samsung T5 SSD Music Service: Qobuz Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Franck@ wrote: > I continue to be very sad after Logitech's decision to stop selling the > Harmony remote. > > I quickly looked at the One For All site, but I'm afraid it might not be > a real alternative. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no remote controls > with screens. > > Nothing better than the screen to make the use simple. When we read > "subtitles" on the screen, we know that we will for example activate / > deactivate the subtitles on a multimedia player. It is much much better > than remembering which remote control button has been assigned which > function (with an unrelated name). Yes, I think you are right, and the One For All may have been a mistake for the reasons you give. Unfortunately it came in one of those plastic containers that have to be destroyed to get into them, so I can't return it. But it only cost a few pounds, so no great problem. The Harmony strikes me as too expensive to make sense. Having a bunch of remotes to use rather than just one is annoying but I find it hard to justify the cost of a Harmony for myself, and wonder why anyone would pay that much. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I continue to be very sad after Logitech's decision to stop selling the Harmony remote. I quickly looked at the One For All site, but I'm afraid it might not be a real alternative. Unless I'm mistaken, there are no remote controls with screens. Nothing better than the screen to make the use simple. When we read "subtitles" on the screen, we know that we will for example activate / deactivate the subtitles on a multimedia player. It is much much better than remembering which remote control button has been assigned which function (with an unrelated name). Franck@'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Tony T wrote: > Check other retailers. I got my backup at Best Buy in the US Yea I canceled my used Amazon backup when I saw ebay had new ones from BB. They don't have my exact model so got to decide between the companion and elite fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
florca wrote: > I was a bit surprised by this, as my OFA remotes have all included > factory codes for Humax PVRs. I think the answer is that for some reason > they now categorise them under "Sat / DVB-T", and a quick look on their > web support code-search pages ( 'HERE' > (https://websupport.uei.com/?lang=en) ) shows codes 2443 / 1176 / 2408 > as candidates. That would explain it. I hadn't got that far yet/. > I've found the OFA remotes work pretty well for most things without > delving into the JP1 interface and making up the cable isn't completely > trivial, but if you do venture there then they can do some very > impressive things - however you do then have to remember the clever > things you've assigned to each button or "shifted" button, so after > heartfelt protests from the rest of the family I've ended up with Keep > It Simple, Stupid as the guiding principle! Yes, remembering might be tricky. Anyway, it's only around £5 for the bits (from China on eBay) and could be fun trying On a different note, have you discovered the incredibly useful Custom Firmware for the Humax HD-Fox T2 / HDR-Fox T2 boxes? Start 'HERE' (https://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/Main_Page) for a way to totally transform the box! Yes, it makes a rel difference. Strongly recommended for anyone who has one o these. And it's a good reason not to go for a fancier model, as there hasn't been custom firmware for those. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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danco wrote: > At that price it is worth getting and just seeing how it works. I have > just got one. I see that the devices it has codes for include VCR but > not a PVR (mine is a Humax Fox T2). But I am sure the JP1 forums will > give instructions for those. I was a bit surprised by this, as my OFA remotes have all included factory codes for Humax PVRs. I think the answer is that for some reason they now categorise them under "Sat / DVB-T", and a quick look on their web support code-search pages ( 'HERE' (https://websupport.uei.com/?lang=en) ) shows codes 2443 / 1176 / 2408 as candidates. I've found the OFA remotes work pretty well for most things without delving into the JP1 interface and making up the cable isn't completely trivial, but if you do venture there then they can do some very impressive things - however you do then have to remember the clever things you've assigned to each button or "shifted" button, so after heartfelt protests from the rest of the family I've ended up with Keep It Simple, Stupid as the guiding principle! On a different note, have you discovered the incredibly useful Custom Firmware for the Humax HD-Fox T2 / HDR-Fox T2 boxes? Start 'HERE' (https://wiki.hummy.tv/wiki/Main_Page) for a way to totally transform the box! Odroid HC1 / Armbian Stretch LMS & LocalPlayer 4x Slim Devices SB3 (White) 1x Boom, 1x Radio 2x Joggler + Squeezeplay / Squeezelite + Topping TP30 florca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
florca wrote: > Maybe a lone dissenting voice, but I never really got on with my Harmony > remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended > up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly > re-programmed / hacked using a home made adaptor and "JP1" software. > [-To be honest I've no idea whether you can still buy the (unofficially) > programmable types- - *see update*] - I bought several end-of-line One > for All 5's at £15 / piece some years back, and although they tend to > die after a few year's hard use (or children playing with the battery > cover :mad:) my stock is still going, but the JP1 programming site still > seems to be alive and active. > > Although at first sight they're far less sophisticated (and far less > expensive) than the Harmony range I've never found any IR device I > couldn't control with a JP1-hacked OFA remote. Their only snag is a > tendancy to run out of memory if you try to get too clever, but kept > simple they work very well. > > More JP1 details 'HERE' > (http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) > > Phil > > UPDATE - In the UK the One-for-All "Contour 8" is available for £15, > controls up to eight devices and is JP1-programmable. May buy a couple > as the design looks a bit better than my old OFA-5's At that price it is worth getting and just seeing how it works. I have just got one. I see that the devices it has codes for include VCR but not a PVR (mine is a Humax Fox T2). But I am sure the JP1 forums will give instructions for those. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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i have a Harmony 1000 on the shelf. Didn't know what to do with it as my setup changed to iphone/ipad mamema's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44662 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
RonM wrote: > I don't have a harmony remote but the eulogies tell me I should get one. > The only ones I can on Amazon are used/vg, is it worthwhile to take the > risk? Sold by a third party, but actually shipped by Amazon. > > R. Check other retailers. I got my backup at Best Buy in the US Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I don't have a harmony remote but the eulogies tell me I should get one. The only ones I can on Amazon are used/vg, is it worthwhile to take the risk? Sold by a third party, but actually shipped by Amazon. R. LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3) Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.) Radio (WiFi) - home office Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4) Touch x 1 - spare UE Radio x 1 - spare Boom x 1 - spare Controller x 1 - Spare Duet Receiver (backup) RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue from sales (however small that was). Bad press/image doesn't come for free either!... ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
tw99 wrote: > I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue > from sales (however small that was). It's been seven years since they discontinued the Smart Radio, and here we all are still. ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
tw99 wrote: > I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue > from sales (however small that was). Squeezeserver is still up. This Forum is still up. I suspect the Harmony server will be up for a long time (even if they stop updating the database) Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Tony T wrote: > Logitech did say that while no new remotes will be made, that they will > keep the system going, including continuing to update the database. I wonder how long they'll continue to sink those costs with no revenue from sales (however small that was). tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
TomAmes wrote: > ...But this time I fear there is no community like all the guys around > here who have kept the Squeezebox system going. > Logitech did say that while no new remotes will be made, that they will keep the system going, including continuing to update the database. Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Apesbrain wrote: > It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a > worthy substitute. Sound familiar? > > Anyway, I bought a backup this morning. Does it ever sound familiar! jfo wrote: > I still use my Harmony 880 which I bought about 18 years ago. They were > a Canadian company started around 2001 and had amazing customer service. > I recall setting up my Tact digital room correction system, digital amps > and other gear over the phone with a tech support person. He accessed my > account and settings and implemented new settings on the fly for me. It > wasn't the same after Logitech acquired them of course. Fortunately by > then I didn't need support. > Edit: I too just ordered a 665 backup. My first Harmony was an 880. Probably my favorite and I hated when it died. I currently have a One, a 650, and a Touch. I hope they last as long as Logitech's support for them. I'm afraid they will outlive the support. bernt wrote: > Oh no! The Harmony Companion is second best gadget I ever had. > > We all know thats numbers one. > > > Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Agree. But this time I fear there is no community like all the guys around here who have kept the Squeezebox system going. This certainly makes one appreciate all the work that Michael and many others have done. Thanks again to all of you folks! TomAmes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27792 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Where Harmony really excels for us, is when we have things that don't really talk to each other. For instance, we have a Harmony Hub control TV, Bluray and a Mu-so. The Mu-so is connected to the TV for sound. Because our TV doesn't communicate well over HDMI ARC, we have Harmony control the connection, so that when the TV is turned on (on the Harmony remote), it pauses the Roon zone (using the Deep Harmony extension) where the Mu-so partakes to avoid having it continue playing somewhere else in the house. Alas, now that we have ditched Roon and gone back to LMS, this particular feature has become defunct :-). There aren't any other universal remotes that I know of, that supports this. I was hoping a bit to see the Yio Remote take off, but I think it was too expensive and too complicated for people to build. That would probably have worked too. Thomas Nielsen -I breathe music...- thniels's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I also have two Harmony units, but continue to prefer the JP1 remotes, the 8820 cited above was/is really the most perfect remote in the hand, almost as good as the TIVO remotes. But 1000% more useful. The RCA RCRP05BR and the Inteset 4 in 1 are also excellent. I even have a few URC-6131s, personally upgraded by Rob, still in daily use. This makes me a little worried about Logitech, but it's hard to be too critical because of the support they've allowed through/by Michael. Thank you! What makes me worried is that Roku followed a similar path with the fabulous SoundBridge streamers and Radio. One day: no help, no forum, no firmware updates on line, no nothing! phil phb (3 Booms, 2 SB3, 1 Rec'vr, 2 Controllers, 2xTouch, 2 Radios (1UE), iPeng &UE: itouch & iPad, Squeezepad, 2 SoundBridge R1000s, NEW pCP Server + pCP Player) pbroughton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
florca wrote: > I never really got on with my Harmony remote. After struggling to get it > working in the way I wanted I ended up buying some One-for-All (UIC) > remotes which can be very flexibly re-programmed / hacked using a home > made adaptor and "JP1" software. To be honest I've no idea whether you > can still buy the (unofficially) programmable types - I bought several > end-of-line One for All 5's at £15 / piece some years back, and although > they tend to die after a few year's hard use (or children playing with > the battery cover :mad:) my stock is still going, but the JP1 > programming site still seems to be alive and active. > > Although at first sight they're far less sophisticated (and far less > expensive) than the Harmony range I've never found any IR device I > couldn't control with a JP1-hacked OFA remote. Their only snag is a > tendancy to run out of memory if you try to get too clever, but kept > simple they work very well. > Yet another vote for JP1/One-For-All. I have found them to be very durable -- models like 'the URC-8820' (http://www.remotecentral.com/ureview/114.htm) that I've been using, anyway. It takes years for the button text to start to wear off, and even then the buttons keep working. I own one URC that still works fine even though it got mangled by a foster dog who mistook it for a chew toy. I agree, the JP1 community still seems healthy. Just a few months ago I needed to reporgram my main URC for a new DVD player. I dreaded the prospect of having to reinstall and relearn the RemoteMaster and IR applications, but found that the desktop repogramming software had been improved and simplified. My old .ir remote config backups worked fine and reprogramming was easier than before. BTW, web searches in decent years revealed that apparently many US cable TV companies are offering customers remote controls that are JP1-capable, and those often sell for little on eBay. We gave a Harmony to my aged father-in-law (first a 650, now a 655), as it's much easier to use than the mess of remotes he ended up with after the cable TV box was added to his kit even after the cable guy programmed their universal remote. I love the "try to fix" option, and the ability to switch the color screen soft buttons to "device" mode. So much nicer than trying to remember where you remapped a specific orginal button like Night Mode. Those Harmony remotes haven't held up as well -- after a couple years some of the buttons become unreliable. I had the same problem with my personal Harmony remotes --even ones that saw infrequent use!-- and always thought that Harmony would be truly great if they could improve their hardware. (They reminded me a lot of 20th century Sony gear -- good design, nice programming, but inadequate quality on the switches and buttons.) Still, yesterday I ordered a spare 655 as a backup for my father-in-law. Thank you, Tony T, for posting! Has anybody tried the 'Safabaton U1 universal remote' (http://sofabaton.com/u1.html)? owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.app/ (which used to reside at www.tux.org/~peterw/) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Franck@ wrote: > The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having > to juggle multiple remote controls Exactly! My Harmony controls TV, AVR, satellite receiver, Squeezebox and an HTPC running Kodi. Aboslutely seamless. Extra comfort points for using RF between remote and Hub. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Another vote for the One-For-All remotes. I've never owned or used a Harmony, so I don't know what I'm missing, but I have a couple of One-For-All 8's which work very well. They have a learning function, and the JP1 software allows me to backup/clone/restore a fully configured remote very quickly. And they're 'disposably' cheap - 'currently £9 on Amazon' (https://www.amazon.co.uk/One-All-Contour-Universal-URC1210-Black/dp/B01K1DQ2D4). chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Maybe a lone dissenting voice, but I never really got on with my Harmony remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly re-programmed / hacked using a home made addaptor and "JP1" software. To be honest I've no idea whether you can still buy the (unofficially) programmable types - I bought several end-of-line One for All 5's at £15 / piece some years back, and although they tend to die after a few year's hard use (or children playing with the battery cover :mad:) my stock is still going, but the JP1 programming site still seems to be alive and active. Although at first sight they're far less sophisticated (and far less expensive) than the Harmony range I've never found any IR device I couldn't control with a JP1-hacked OFA remote. Their only snag is a tendancy to run out of memory if you try to get too clever, but kept simple they work very well. More JP1 details 'HERE' (http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page) Phil Odroid HC1 / Armbian Stretch LMS & LocalPlayer 4x Slim Devices SB3 (White) 1x Boom, 1x Radio 2x Joggler + Squeezeplay / Squeezelite + Topping TP30 florca's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7486 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Franck@ wrote: > This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and > friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx). > > The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having > to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia player > ...) and it allows, with a little work, to multiply the applications on > a single Raspberry Pi (music, video, retrogaming ...). > > To my knowledge, there is no equivalent. (In France, it is already > impossible to buy it. The stocks already seem empty.) Just buy some backups now. Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Paul Webster wrote: > I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new > one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying that > they will still add IR codes for new devices that have to be controlled. Yes, at this moment nothing changes: it still works. But some members of my family (young children) are not very careful and have to renew their remote controls regularly. And that will quickly become annoying. Franck@'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Franck@ wrote: > This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and > friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx). > I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying that they will still add IR codes for new devices that have to be controlled. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx). The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia player ...) and it allows, with a little work, to multiply the applications on a single Raspberry Pi (music, video, retrogaming ...). To my knowledge, there is no equivalent. (In France, it is already impossible to buy it. The stocks already seem empty.) Franck@'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Oh no! The Harmony Companion is second best gadget I ever had. We all know thats numbers one. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with ZeroTier One. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
While I am new to LMS/Squeezebox, I have had harmony remotes for years. I have a One, a 650 and 2 hubs with the smart remotes . Those hubs are the best $$ I have spent . My fiancé has some disabilities and having one uniform remote for everything makes life much easier for her. I have them hooked into my home automation system and they are very useful. After reading the news, I just bought a backup..if you want one too don't wait because it looks like Amazon only has renewed versions now. fletch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I still use my Harmony 880 which I bought about 18 years ago. They were a Canadian company started around 2001 and had amazing customer service. I recall setting up my Tact digital room correction system, digital amps and other gear over the phone with a tech support person. He accessed my account and settings and implemented new settings on the fly for me. It wasn't the same after Logitech acquired them of course. Fortunately by then I didn't need support. jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
paul- wrote: > I figured this day would come. Ive used them before Logitech bought > the line. Kinda odd when they are really the only player in town > The market is just too small I've been using Harmony a long time too, but most people just have a smart tv with all the apps, no A/V system, music streaming to phone with either earbuds or bluetooth speakers. No need for a fancy remote. ftlight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I figured this day would come. Ive used them before Logitech bought the line. Kinda odd when they are really the only player in town The market is just too small piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=U7JHY5WYHCNRU&lc=GB¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted) if you like the piCorePlayer paul-'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58858 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Also bought a backup today (a 665) Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
Apesbrain wrote: > It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a > worthy substitute. Sound familiar? Funny guy! Living Room: Pi3 w/Allo Digione Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 8.0 and SqueezeLite Pioneer Elite VSX 80, Parasound 2125 v2 KEF LS50's, Paradigm SE Center, SVS SB12-NSD Subwoofer, Paradigm Atom v.5 Surrounds Harmony Smart Control w/Hub and iPeng Dining Room: KEF Q100's Bedroom: Logitech Boom Porch: Boston Acoustics Voyager Metro II Router: Netgear R700P File Storage: Samsung T5 SSD Music Service: Qobuz Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
It's a good product. It fills a specific need. No one else makes a worthy substitute. Sound familiar? Anyway, I bought a backup this morning. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
I bloody love my Harmony Hub, at least when I'm done configuring it because that's an ordeal which perfectly illustrates the vulnerability of hardware that's dependent on cloud services. Hopefully Harmony customers will get the same level of long term support that Squeezebox users have enjoyed with mysqueezebox.com. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
