Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Joe Casper
How about Atlanta or Orlando?

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On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Steve Holden  wrote:

> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. This is not a
> final answer, simply reassurance that things have actually been happening.
> 
> Sadly, New York is out for 2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
> low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
> expensive. If we want to look at a New York DjangoCon US we should
> probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
> a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
> cost of eating out and so on in New York).
> 
> Chicago is also quite a lot more expensive than Portland for 2011, so we
> have had to rule that out too. Again, a longer planning time frame
> *might* help.
> 
> We did receive responses from a couple of hotels close to Dulles airport
> where the costs might be acceptable and they do have space for next
> year. Sadly both facilities (and particularly the one whose costs are
> closest to the Doubletree in Portland) are quite isolated (i.e. anything
> else is a cab ride away). This doesn't seem like it would fit with a
> group that enjoys visiting local bars and restaurants.
> 
> We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
> "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
> more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
> mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
> more facilities close by.
> 
> I will let you know more when I hear more. In the meantime, I am
> wondering whether it might be more practical to have a third year at the
> Doubletree in Portland, and adopt a longer time frame for 2012 planning
> for an East coast conference. Feedback on that question would be welcome.
> 
> regards
> Steve
> 
> PS: When is @alex_gaynor's birthday?
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Shawn Milochik
I live on the east coast, but the past two DjangoCons have caused me to fall in 
love with Portland. It would be a treat for me to get to go there again in 
2011. 

In fact, if it's in Portland next year I plan to make a family vacation of it. 

So, that's my vote, for whatever it's worth. Hope to see everyone in Portland 
next year!

Shawn

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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Steve Holden  wrote:
> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. This is not a
> final answer, simply reassurance that things have actually been happening.
>
> Sadly, New York is out for 2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
> low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
> expensive. If we want to look at a New York DjangoCon US we should
> probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
> a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
> cost of eating out and so on in New York).
>
> Chicago is also quite a lot more expensive than Portland for 2011, so we
> have had to rule that out too. Again, a longer planning time frame
> *might* help.
>
> We did receive responses from a couple of hotels close to Dulles airport
> where the costs might be acceptable and they do have space for next
> year. Sadly both facilities (and particularly the one whose costs are
> closest to the Doubletree in Portland) are quite isolated (i.e. anything
> else is a cab ride away). This doesn't seem like it would fit with a
> group that enjoys visiting local bars and restaurants.
>
> We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
> "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
> more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
> mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
> more facilities close by.
>
> I will let you know more when I hear more. In the meantime, I am
> wondering whether it might be more practical to have a third year at the
> Doubletree in Portland, and adopt a longer time frame for 2012 planning
> for an East coast conference. Feedback on that question would be welcome.

I don't have any objections to another year in Portland. It's a great
city with great transport and nightlife. If another year in Portland
will give us the breathing room to secure better options on the east
coast, I'm all for it. It's certainly a more attractive option than a
week in an airport Hilton with a cab ride needed for every restaurant
trip.

Yours
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Franklin Einspruch
May I humbly suggest Boston?

- a Bostonian


On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Joe Casper  wrote:
> How about Atlanta or Orlando?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Steve Holden  wrote:
>
>> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
>> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. This is not a
>> final answer, simply reassurance that things have actually been happening.
>>
>> Sadly, New York is out for 2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
>> low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
>> expensive. If we want to look at a New York DjangoCon US we should
>> probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
>> a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
>> cost of eating out and so on in New York).
>>
>> Chicago is also quite a lot more expensive than Portland for 2011, so we
>> have had to rule that out too. Again, a longer planning time frame
>> *might* help.
>>
>> We did receive responses from a couple of hotels close to Dulles airport
>> where the costs might be acceptable and they do have space for next
>> year. Sadly both facilities (and particularly the one whose costs are
>> closest to the Doubletree in Portland) are quite isolated (i.e. anything
>> else is a cab ride away). This doesn't seem like it would fit with a
>> group that enjoys visiting local bars and restaurants.
>>
>> We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
>> "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
>> more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
>> mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
>> more facilities close by.
>>
>> I will let you know more when I hear more. In the meantime, I am
>> wondering whether it might be more practical to have a third year at the
>> Doubletree in Portland, and adopt a longer time frame for 2012 planning
>> for an East coast conference. Feedback on that question would be welcome.
>>
>> regards
>> Steve
>>
>> PS: When is @alex_gaynor's birthday?
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/27/2010 11:02 PM, Shawn Milochik wrote:
> > I live on the east coast, but the past two DjangoCons have caused me
> > to fall in love with Portland. It would be a treat for me to get to
> > go there again in 2011.
> >
> > In fact, if it's in Portland next year I plan to make a family
> > vacation of it.
> >
> > So, that's my vote, for whatever it's worth. Hope to see everyone in
> > Portland next year!
On 9/27/2010 11:04 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> > I don't have any objections to another year in Portland. It's a great
> > city with great transport and nightlife. If another year in Portland
> > will give us the breathing room to secure better options on the east
> > coast, I'm all for it. It's certainly a more attractive option than a
> > week in an airport Hilton with a cab ride needed for every restaurant
> > trip.
> >
That was my reasoning too. It's not all over yet (there are still
options in Arlington, which is rather more cosmopolitan, that we are
still awaiting replies from) but in the absence of some alternative
which allows us to keep the price within 5-10% of this year it does seem
attractive.

We could then take the opportunity to plan an East coast venue with a
longer time frame, giving us more chance of meeting the community's
parameters.

Atlanta, Orlando and Boston have also been suggested. It will never be
Orlando for me (sorry, I just can't bring myself to like the place as a
conference venue, great as it may be for a family vacation). While the
other two cities might be possibilities for future years I don't think
they are any more likely to be practical for 2011 than Chicago or New
York, and for much the same reasons.

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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Samuel Baldwin
2010/9/27 Franklin Einspruch :
> May I humbly suggest Boston?

Another for Boston.
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread David Zhou
Is the bay area right out for cost reasons?

dz

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> 2010/9/27 Franklin Einspruch :
>> May I humbly suggest Boston?
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Олег Корсак
Make conference in eastern europe :)
- Исходное сообщение -
> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. This is not a
> final answer, simply reassurance that things have actually been
> happening.
> 
> Sadly, New York is out for 2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
> low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
> expensive. If we want to look at a New York DjangoCon US we should
> probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
> a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
> cost of eating out and so on in New York).
> 
> Chicago is also quite a lot more expensive than Portland for 2011, so we
> have had to rule that out too. Again, a longer planning time frame
> *might* help.
> 
> We did receive responses from a couple of hotels close to Dulles airport
> where the costs might be acceptable and they do have space for next
> year. Sadly both facilities (and particularly the one whose costs are
> closest to the Doubletree in Portland) are quite isolated (i.e. anything
> else is a cab ride away). This doesn't seem like it would fit with a
> group that enjoys visiting local bars and restaurants.
> 
> We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
> "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
> more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
> mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
> more facilities close by.
> 
> I will let you know more when I hear more. In the meantime, I am
> wondering whether it might be more practical to have a third year at the
> Doubletree in Portland, and adopt a longer time frame for 2012 planning
> for an East coast conference. Feedback on that question would be welcome.
> 
> regards
>   Steve
> 
> PS: When is @alex_gaynor's birthday?
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:51 -0400, Steve Holden wrote:
> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. 

just curious - why a hotel? In India we hold such conferences in
universities/colleges - they provide all facilities free of cost (except
accomodation - although some make their guest houses available for the
VIPs), and in fact, compete with each other to offer hosting. We have
just finished Pycon India where we got three state of art auditoriums
free of cost.
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
There seemed to be a general feeling that a change of venue should head
Eastwards rather than South. So we are looking primarily for East coast
locations as an alternative to Portland for 2011.

regards
 Steve

On 9/27/2010 11:49 PM, David Zhou wrote:
> Is the bay area right out for cost reasons?
> 
> dz
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Samuel Baldwin  
> wrote:
> 
>> 2010/9/27 Franklin Einspruch :
>>> May I humbly suggest Boston?
>>
>> Another for Boston.
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
Without wishing to seem non-responsive, can I just point out that we
can't keep extending the search indefinitely. First of all, we need to
make a decision reasonably quickly.Secondly, these venue searches take
time. While it costs nothing to "toss something out there", there *are*
costs involved with investigating available venues.

Consequently I am unlikely to look at any particular place unless it is
clearly supported by a number of people. And having had Chicago, New
York and Washington DC in our sights I am not inclined to extend that
list without a strong indication of support from a broad cross-section
of the community.

I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.

regards
 Steve

On 9/28/2010 8:48 AM, Rev. Johnny Healey wrote:
> It seems like no one has suggested New Orleans yet, so I'm just going
> to toss that out there.
> 
> -Johnny
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Dana Spiegel
Steve,

This seems totally reasonable.

Looking at this from a different perspective, given that there are a
large and increasing number of python-based startups in NYC, would it
make a difference re: which city was chosen if we (in NYC) were able
to solicit sponsorships from VCs and tech firms here (in NYC)?

On Sep 28, 8:54 am, Steve Holden  wrote:
> Without wishing to seem non-responsive, can I just point out that we
> can't keep extending the search indefinitely. First of all, we need to
> make a decision reasonably quickly.Secondly, these venue searches take
> time. While it costs nothing to "toss something out there", there *are*
> costs involved with investigating available venues.
>
> Consequently I am unlikely to look at any particular place unless it is
> clearly supported by a number of people. And having had Chicago, New
> York and Washington DC in our sights I am not inclined to extend that
> list without a strong indication of support from a broad cross-section
> of the community.
>
> I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> On 9/28/2010 8:48 AM, Rev. Johnny Healey wrote:> It seems like no one has 
> suggested New Orleans yet, so I'm just going
> > to toss that out there.
>
> > -Johnny
>
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/28/2010 9:44 AM, Dana Spiegel wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> This seems totally reasonable.
> 
> Looking at this from a different perspective, given that there are a
> large and increasing number of python-based startups in NYC, would it
> make a difference re: which city was chosen if we (in NYC) were able
> to solicit sponsorships from VCs and tech firms here (in NYC)?
> 
It might, though the sponsors would need to commit in advance.

The main issue would be the cost of accommodation, which can be very
high in the city. Do you think you could get sponsors to offset those
costs? I'm finding it difficult to imagine how that could practically be
done.

regards
 Steve

> On Sep 28, 8:54 am, Steve Holden  wrote:
>> Without wishing to seem non-responsive, can I just point out that we
>> can't keep extending the search indefinitely. First of all, we need to
>> make a decision reasonably quickly.Secondly, these venue searches take
>> time. While it costs nothing to "toss something out there", there *are*
>> costs involved with investigating available venues.
>>
>> Consequently I am unlikely to look at any particular place unless it is
>> clearly supported by a number of people. And having had Chicago, New
>> York and Washington DC in our sights I am not inclined to extend that
>> list without a strong indication of support from a broad cross-section
>> of the community.
>>
>> I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.
>>
>> regards
>>  Steve
>>
>> On 9/28/2010 8:48 AM, Rev. Johnny Healey wrote:> It seems like no one has 
>> suggested New Orleans yet, so I'm just going
>>> to toss that out there.
>>
>>> -Johnny
>>
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Dana Spiegel
Have you guys seen adoptahacker.com? I'm sure that Jon Wegener and the team at 
New Work City would be happy to help with finding places for visitors to stay 
(as in couches/extra rooms).

In terms of getting hotel rooms sponsored, we might be able to VCs to offer 
sponsorship for this (though we should at least reach out to  Charlie O'Donnell 
@ First Round Capital to get his take on this).

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On Sep 28, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Steve Holden wrote:

> On 9/28/2010 9:44 AM, Dana Spiegel wrote:
>> Steve,
>> 
>> This seems totally reasonable.
>> 
>> Looking at this from a different perspective, given that there are a
>> large and increasing number of python-based startups in NYC, would it
>> make a difference re: which city was chosen if we (in NYC) were able
>> to solicit sponsorships from VCs and tech firms here (in NYC)?
>> 
> It might, though the sponsors would need to commit in advance.
> 
> The main issue would be the cost of accommodation, which can be very
> high in the city. Do you think you could get sponsors to offset those
> costs? I'm finding it difficult to imagine how that could practically be
> done.
> 
> regards
> Steve
> 
>> On Sep 28, 8:54 am, Steve Holden  wrote:
>>> Without wishing to seem non-responsive, can I just point out that we
>>> can't keep extending the search indefinitely. First of all, we need to
>>> make a decision reasonably quickly.Secondly, these venue searches take
>>> time. While it costs nothing to "toss something out there", there *are*
>>> costs involved with investigating available venues.
>>> 
>>> Consequently I am unlikely to look at any particular place unless it is
>>> clearly supported by a number of people. And having had Chicago, New
>>> York and Washington DC in our sights I am not inclined to extend that
>>> list without a strong indication of support from a broad cross-section
>>> of the community.
>>> 
>>> I hope nobody takes this the wrong way.
>>> 
>>> regards
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> On 9/28/2010 8:48 AM, Rev. Johnny Healey wrote:> It seems like no one has 
>>> suggested New Orleans yet, so I'm just going
 to toss that out there.
>>> 
 -Johnny
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-29 Thread Siraaj Khandkar
On Sep 27, 10:51 pm, Steve Holden  wrote:
>
> Sadly, New York is out for2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
> low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
> expensive. If we want to look at a New YorkDjangoConUS we should
> probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
> a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
> cost of eating out and so on in New York).
>

Look into Cooper Union in New York. NYCBUG is holding NYCBSDCon there
in a little over a month, with reasonable costs.

http://www.nycbsdcon.org/2010/


...
>
> We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
> "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
> more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
> mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
> more facilities close by.
>

DC sounds cool, UPenn in Philadelphia would be a good place to
consider as well.

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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-30 Thread sserrano
I live in Argentina, If I wanted to go to the DjangoCon in Portland,
it would require a Bus to Buenos Aires, then take an international
flight to a US mayor city and then another to reach Portland, overall
I would be travelling more nearly an entire day to reach the
conference.

New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Washington have direct
flights from almost every country. I'm sure if the conference is place
in a city with easy access it would have more people going.

Cheers, Sebastian

On Sep 29, 3:20 pm, Siraaj Khandkar  wrote:
> On Sep 27, 10:51 pm, Steve Holden  wrote:
>
> >
> > Sadly, New York is out for2011. Those (very few) venues whose costs are
> > low enough are already booked up. Those with space are *much* too
> > expensive. If we want to look at a New YorkDjangoConUS we should
> > probably plan at least two years ahead, and still expect it to be quite
> > a lot more expensive than Portland (even without factoring in the higher
> > cost of eating out and so on in New York).
>
> Look into Cooper Union in New York. NYCBUG is holding NYCBSDCon there
> in a little over a month, with reasonable costs.
>
> http://www.nycbsdcon.org/2010/
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > We are currently waiting for replies from one or two more hotels more
> > "in the thick of things" in the DC area. This would probably mean a bit
> > more difficulty getting to the venue from the airports, but it would
> > mean that Djangonauts who want to venture out from the hotel would find
> > more facilities close by.
>
> DC sounds cool, UPenn in Philadelphia would be a good place to
> consider as well.

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Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-30 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/30/2010 10:36 AM, sserrano wrote:
>> I live in Argentina, If I wanted to go to the DjangoCon in
>> Portland, it would require a Bus to Buenos Aires, then take an
>> international flight to a US mayor city and then another to reach
>> Portland, overall I would be travelling more nearly an entire day
>> to reach the conference.
>> 
>> New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Washington have direct 
>> flights from almost every country. I'm sure if the conference is
>> place in a city with easy access it would have more people going.
>> 
Thank you for your input. What you say is true. Unfortunately (for
people in your position) growth in numbers isn't a primary goal for
DjangoCon US and Portland seems to attract sufficient delegates to make
it successful.

I am not unmindful of these factors, but on the other side of the coin
it's likely (for precisely the convenience reasons you state) that those
locations with convenient international airports will have hotels that
are significantly more expensive than places like Portland.

Cost *is* a major inhibitor of attendance, and unless the Django
community advise otherwise a high priority will be trying to keep the
2011 cost as close to this year's level as I can.

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Fwd: Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Steve Holden
On 9/28/2010 1:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:51 -0400, Steve Holden wrote:
>> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
>> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011. 
> 
> just curious - why a hotel? In India we hold such conferences in
> universities/colleges - they provide all facilities free of cost (except
> accomodation - although some make their guest houses available for the
> VIPs), and in fact, compete with each other to offer hosting. We have
> just finished Pycon India where we got three state of art auditoriums
> free of cost.

The choice of venue was made in advance for this year - effectively we
took over an existing contract. This is the first time anyone has
suggested a non-hotel venue.

I haven't really heard much support for a university venue from the
community at large. They have both advantages and disadvantages. Of
course PyCon used a university location for the first three years. After
we outgrew the original location the conference's size made it difficult
to find university locations large enough (according to the people who
made the choices - I only chaired for three years).

It would be best not to cast the net too wide, given that a year ahead
is a relatively short planning time frame for a conference of this size.

regards
 Steve

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Re: Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Franklin Einspruch
You might also have a look at Providence, RI. There's an airport, it's
an hour from Boston by car, and they have an active tech community
there:

http://rinexus.com/
http://providencegeeks.org/
http://www.pbn.com/Schillings-38-Studios-signs-lease-at-One-Empire-Plaza,52603

Good restaurants abound and entertainment options are at least extant
if not quite as rich as Portland, OR. Venues are likely to be far
cheaper than Boston.

- Franklin

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Steve Holden  wrote:
> On 9/28/2010 1:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:51 -0400, Steve Holden wrote:
>>> I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
>>> been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011.
>>
>> just curious - why a hotel? In India we hold such conferences in
>> universities/colleges - they provide all facilities free of cost (except
>> accomodation - although some make their guest houses available for the
>> VIPs), and in fact, compete with each other to offer hosting. We have
>> just finished Pycon India where we got three state of art auditoriums
>> free of cost.
>
> The choice of venue was made in advance for this year - effectively we
> took over an existing contract. This is the first time anyone has
> suggested a non-hotel venue.
>
> I haven't really heard much support for a university venue from the
> community at large. They have both advantages and disadvantages. Of
> course PyCon used a university location for the first three years. After
> we outgrew the original location the conference's size made it difficult
> to find university locations large enough (according to the people who
> made the choices - I only chaired for three years).
>
> It would be best not to cast the net too wide, given that a year ahead
> is a relatively short planning time frame for a conference of this size.
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
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Re: Re: DjangoCon 2011

2010-09-28 Thread Rev. Johnny Healey
It seems like no one has suggested New Orleans yet, so I'm just going
to toss that out there.

-Johnny

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Franklin Einspruch
 wrote:
> You might also have a look at Providence, RI. There's an airport, it's
> an hour from Boston by car, and they have an active tech community
> there:
>
> http://rinexus.com/
> http://providencegeeks.org/
> http://www.pbn.com/Schillings-38-Studios-signs-lease-at-One-Empire-Plaza,52603
>
> Good restaurants abound and entertainment options are at least extant
> if not quite as rich as Portland, OR. Venues are likely to be far
> cheaper than Boston.
>
> - Franklin
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Steve Holden  wrote:
>> On 9/28/2010 1:19 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 22:51 -0400, Steve Holden wrote:
 I'd just like to briefly report back on the inquiries Nancy and I have
 been making into East coast venues for DjangoCon 2011.
>>>
>>> just curious - why a hotel? In India we hold such conferences in
>>> universities/colleges - they provide all facilities free of cost (except
>>> accomodation - although some make their guest houses available for the
>>> VIPs), and in fact, compete with each other to offer hosting. We have
>>> just finished Pycon India where we got three state of art auditoriums
>>> free of cost.
>>
>> The choice of venue was made in advance for this year - effectively we
>> took over an existing contract. This is the first time anyone has
>> suggested a non-hotel venue.
>>
>> I haven't really heard much support for a university venue from the
>> community at large. They have both advantages and disadvantages. Of
>> course PyCon used a university location for the first three years. After
>> we outgrew the original location the conference's size made it difficult
>> to find university locations large enough (according to the people who
>> made the choices - I only chaired for three years).
>>
>> It would be best not to cast the net too wide, given that a year ahead
>> is a relatively short planning time frame for a conference of this size.
>>
>> regards
>>  Steve
>>
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