Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> On 07/15/2010 02:20 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>
>> You, mean, like... oh, I don't know... one of the core developers of
>> Django? Like the one that's been asking for details on how to
>> reproduce the problem? :-)
>>
>> Yours,
>> Russ Magee %-)
>>
>>
>
> Ahaha! Exactly! Nice to make your acquittance Russ.
> Knowing who is who is a bit of magic art on lists, unless of course you
> google every email :)
>
> To my mind, the devs and the site maintainers don't have to be the same
> people, but I threw it on the list so someone (turns out to be you) could
> get the word through.
> Mischief managed :)

Ok - problem found.

In django/utils/translation/trans_real.py, the
parse_accept_lang_header() function uses a regular expression to check
for valid languages. That regular expression (accept_language_re)
looks for language components up to 16 characters in length.

It looks like some extra error handling may be required. I've opened
ticket #13944 to make sure the issue isn't forgotten. Thanks to all
that helped to identify the issue.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

On 07/15/2010 02:20 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:


You, mean, like... oh, I don't know... one of the core developers of
Django? Like the one that's been asking for details on how to
reproduce the problem? :-)

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

   

Ahaha! Exactly! Nice to make your acquittance Russ.
Knowing who is who is a bit of magic art on lists, unless of course you 
google every email :)


To my mind, the devs and the site maintainers don't have to be the same 
people, but I threw it on the list so someone (turns out to be you) 
could get the word through.

Mischief managed :)

your obliged new-guy,
Nick

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> On 07/15/2010 05:55 AM, Danny Adair wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
>> The offending config entry in my case was:
>> "chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
>> and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
>> Firefox 3.6.6
>>
>> I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
>> changing "intl.accept_languages" to
>> en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties
>>
>> *.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Danny
>>
> Yep, that's the one!
> I tried to open chrome://global/locale/intl.properties as a link in Firefox,
> and (oh, the surprise :P ) it's a settings file.
> Either the file doesn't get resolved unto something useful in my platform
> (I'm using ubuntu-based) or it's something depreciated and it's a migration
> issue.
> Also checked the Firefox bugzilla and there are indeed a couple of bug
> reports for it.
>
> My feelings still stand. Other than making sure that django itself handles
> such erroneous values gracefully,  the list shouldn't be too concerned about
> it.
>
> Now, I wonder if there's a way we can give a heads-up to the
> djangoproject.com and djangobook.com maintainers a heads-up on this is
> issue, so they can cater for it.

You, mean, like... oh, I don't know... one of the core developers of
Django? Like the one that's been asking for details on how to
reproduce the problem? :-)

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[George Sakkis]

On Jul 15, 1:14 pm, Tom Evans  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM, George Sakkis  
> wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 4:55 am, Danny Adair  wrote:
>
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
> >> The offending config entry in my case was:
> >> "chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
> >> and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
> >> Firefox 3.6.6
>
> >> I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
> >> changing "intl.accept_languages" to
> >> en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties
>
> >> *.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.
>
> > I didn't write down the offending entry in my case but I think it was
> > the same or similar to yours. In any case, I can confirm that by
> > setting it the problem is reproduced.
>
> > Trying to reverse engineer the pattern of the offending values, I
> > believe that the issue is the string length: any value up to 16 bytes
> > works fine, 17 or more hangs.
>
> > George
>
> Hmm - mine is way longer than 17 characters, and I do not have any issues.
> intl.accept_languages="en-US,en,fr-FR,fr,ja-JP,ja,en-GB,nl-NL,nl,en-gb"
> works just fine for me.

Sorry, I meant to say a single item in the comma separated list has to
be up to 16 characters. intl.accept_languages="1234567890123456"
works, intl.accept_languages="12345678901234567" doesn't.

George

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Tom Evans]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:02 AM, George Sakkis  wrote:
> On Jul 15, 4:55 am, Danny Adair  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
>> The offending config entry in my case was:
>> "chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
>> and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
>> Firefox 3.6.6
>>
>> I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
>> changing "intl.accept_languages" to
>> en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties
>>
>> *.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.
>
> I didn't write down the offending entry in my case but I think it was
> the same or similar to yours. In any case, I can confirm that by
> setting it the problem is reproduced.
>
> Trying to reverse engineer the pattern of the offending values, I
> believe that the issue is the string length: any value up to 16 bytes
> works fine, 17 or more hangs.
>
> George
>

Hmm - mine is way longer than 17 characters, and I do not have any issues.
intl.accept_languages="en-US,en,fr-FR,fr,ja-JP,ja,en-GB,nl-NL,nl,en-gb"
works just fine for me.

Maybe firefox version is pertinent. This is firefox-3.6.4,1 from ports
on FreeBSD 7/i386.

Hmm, adding 'chrome://global/locale/intl.properties' does affect it...

Using wireshark to capture the traffic it seems no response is sent
for the offending request. I've created a minimum test case that can
be used to trigger the situation, using nc (nc will just hang waiting
for a response):

> $ nc www.djangoproject.com 80 < django_http_fail.req

django_http_fail.req:
GET http://www.djangoproject.com/ HTTP/1.1
Host: www.djangoproject.com
Accept-Language: en;q=0.9,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties;q=0.1


The good news (on some part) is that this doesn't seem to affect all
django sites. None of my sites become inaccessible after making these
changes. I guess djangoproject.com has some middleware that gets
stymmied by this invalid entry.

Cheers

Tom

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

On 07/15/2010 05:55 AM, Danny Adair wrote:

Hi,

I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
The offending config entry in my case was:
"chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
Firefox 3.6.6

I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
changing "intl.accept_languages" to
en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties

*.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.

Cheers,
Danny


Yep, that's the one!
I tried to open chrome://global/locale/intl.properties as a link in 
Firefox, and (oh, the surprise :P ) it's a settings file.
Either the file doesn't get resolved unto something useful in my 
platform (I'm using ubuntu-based) or it's something depreciated and it's 
a migration issue.
Also checked the Firefox bugzilla and there are indeed a couple of bug 
reports for it.


My feelings still stand. Other than making sure that django itself 
handles such erroneous values gracefully,  the list shouldn't be too 
concerned about it.


Now, I wonder if there's a way we can give a heads-up to the 
djangoproject.com and djangobook.com maintainers a heads-up on this is 
issue, so they can cater for it.


Nick

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[George Sakkis]

On Jul 15, 4:55 am, Danny Adair  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
> The offending config entry in my case was:
> "chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
> and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
> Firefox 3.6.6
>
> I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
> changing "intl.accept_languages" to
> en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties
>
> *.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.

I didn't write down the offending entry in my case but I think it was
the same or similar to yours. In any case, I can confirm that by
setting it the problem is reproduced.

Trying to reverse engineer the pattern of the offending values, I
believe that the issue is the string length: any value up to 16 bytes
works fine, 17 or more hangs.

George

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Danny Adair]

Hi,

I had the exact same problem, and I had _not_ installed Weave.
The offending config entry in my case was:
"chrome://global/locale/intl.properties"
and it was at the bottom of the accepted languages list. This is on
Firefox 3.6.6

I can reproduce the problem anytime by visiting about:config and
changing "intl.accept_languages" to
en-nz,en,de,chrome://global/locale/intl.properties

*.djangoproject.com will stop responding, (all?) other websites seem fine.

Cheers,
Danny


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:52, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> On 07/14/2010 02:28 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad we've worked out that Weave is the culprit, but nobody has
>> answered the question of whether this is an indicator of a problem
>> with Django itself. What is weave passing as a header (and under what
>> conditions) that is causing a problem? Is there a need to improve
>> Django's error handling to protect against this case?
>>
>> Yours,
>> Russ Magee %-)
>>
>>
>
> Hi Russ.
> I hate to admit that I didn't saved that offending value so someone can
> reproduce this.
>
> My reasoning back then for not raising a bug on django was this:
> 1. It was an obvious invalid value. As I said, Weave probably introduced it
> at some point (I guess while still in beta) but other than that, it could
> also be a number of things. Fixing that locale value solves it for good. So
> I rinsed, wiped, forgot.
> 2. I tried to access some other django-powered sites with l10n, and they
> loaded just fine. Only djangoproject.com and djangobook.com had the problem.
> So my guess was that it was caused by something else on that sites' stack
> and not django itself.
> 3. Improving the error-handling of django just didn't cross my mind.
>
> I hope someone else with the same problem here could provide you with the
> offending value.
>
> Nick
>
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

On 07/14/2010 02:28 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:


I'm glad we've worked out that Weave is the culprit, but nobody has
answered the question of whether this is an indicator of a problem
with Django itself. What is weave passing as a header (and under what
conditions) that is causing a problem? Is there a need to improve
Django's error handling to protect against this case?

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

   

Hi Russ.
I hate to admit that I didn't saved that offending value so someone can 
reproduce this.


My reasoning back then for not raising a bug on django was this:
1. It was an obvious invalid value. As I said, Weave probably introduced 
it at some point (I guess while still in beta) but other than that, it 
could also be a number of things. Fixing that locale value solves it for 
good. So I rinsed, wiped, forgot.
2. I tried to access some other django-powered sites with l10n, and they 
loaded just fine. Only djangoproject.com and djangobook.com had the 
problem. So my guess was that it was caused by something else on that 
sites' stack and not django itself.

3. Improving the error-handling of django just didn't cross my mind.

I hope someone else with the same problem here could provide you with 
the offending value.


Nick

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Chris Lawlor]

Nick, thank you so much for figuring this out!!

On Jul 8, 11:12 am, Nick Raptis  wrote:

> In firefox, check your preffered language settings, in the content tab.
>
> If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf"
> or something) instead of a locale like en-US,
> some django pages won't ever display.
>
> Nick
>
> On 07/08/2010 04:11 PM, eon wrote:
>
> > Same for me. The problem is in the firefox profile (maybe due to the
> > switch from 3.5 to 3.6 ?)
>
> > Start-up with a new profile (backport plugins, bookmarks argh...)
> > resolves the issue
>
> > On 5 juil, 20:52, Andi  wrote:
>
> >> On Jul 2, 10:44 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:
>
> >>> What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
> >>> on linux.
>
> >> I have the same problem regarding djangoproject.com (Firefox 3.6.6 on
> >> Ubuntu).  Everything works but Firefox using my default profile: host
> >> and nslookup succeed in resolving the domain name.  Adding the IP to /
> >> etc/hosts or accessing the IP address directly in firefox doesn't
> >> help.  Opera, chromium, arora, w3m, elinks, lynx and konqueror are not
> >> affected.  Firefoxes on other hosts within the same LAN can connect to
> >> djangoproject.com without a problem.  Disabling all add-ons living in
> >> my Firefox doesn't have an effect -- but starting with a fresh profile
> >> does: djangoproject.com loads successfully.
>
> >> It's a very strange problem, because there is no problem with the
> >> other thousands of websites I've visited during the last days.  It's
> >> the combination djangoproject.com + my main Firefox profile which
> >> produces the problem exclusively.
>
> >> --
> >> Andi

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:47 PM, George Sakkis  wrote:
> On Jul 12, 3:59 pm, Andi  wrote:
>
>> On Jul 12, 3:40 pm, Nick Raptis  wrote:
>>
>> > Yea, for some reason, my thoughts went to Weave too. Maybe it has
>> > something to do with it, maybe it doesn't. Haven't got any more trouble
>> > since I fixed it though.
>> > Glad I could help :)
>>
>> I'm using Weave too, don't think that's a coincidence.
>
> Another Weave user here, and I confirm both the problem and the
> solution.
>
> Thanks a lot for solving this, it was driving me crazy!

I'm glad we've worked out that Weave is the culprit, but nobody has
answered the question of whether this is an indicator of a problem
with Django itself. What is weave passing as a header (and under what
conditions) that is causing a problem? Is there a need to improve
Django's error handling to protect against this case?

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[George Sakkis]

On Jul 12, 3:59 pm, Andi  wrote:

> On Jul 12, 3:40 pm, Nick Raptis  wrote:
>
> > Yea, for some reason, my thoughts went to Weave too. Maybe it has
> > something to do with it, maybe it doesn't. Haven't got any more trouble
> > since I fixed it though.
> > Glad I could help :)
>
> I'm using Weave too, don't think that's a coincidence.

Another Weave user here, and I confirm both the problem and the
solution.

Thanks a lot for solving this, it was driving me crazy!

George

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Andi]

On Jul 12, 3:40 pm, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> Yea, for some reason, my thoughts went to Weave too. Maybe it has
> something to do with it, maybe it doesn't. Haven't got any more trouble
> since I fixed it though.
> Glad I could help :)

I'm using Weave too, don't think that's a coincidence.

Bye, Andi

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

I too have upgraded my Ubuntu systems over several versions in the 
past, and also have Weave (now Firefox Sync) installed since a few 
weeks, which leaves me wondering how the nonstandard setting got into 
the profile in the first place.



Yea, for some reason, my thoughts went to Weave too. Maybe it has 
something to do with it, maybe it doesn't. Haven't got any more trouble 
since I fixed it though.

Glad I could help :)

Nick

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Carsten Fuchs]

On 08.07.2010 17:12, Nick Raptis wrote:

In firefox, check your preffered language settings, in the content tab.

If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf" or 
something) instead of a
locale like en-US,
some django pages won't ever display.


Many thanks also from me!
I too had the exact same problem, and your fix helped.

I too have upgraded my Ubuntu systems over several versions in the past, and also have Weave (now 
Firefox Sync) installed since a few weeks, which leaves me wondering how the nonstandard setting got 
into the profile in the first place.


Anyways, many thanks for your post!

Best,
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Russell Keith-Magee]

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> Sorry for the rant but I can finally express my delayed frustration on this
> bug..
>
> I first I spent some 2-3 hours trying to find out if this problem came from
> a broken ipv6 configuration.
> Then, I actually had to delete all my profile files (delete half, find out
> if it solves it, restore, delete half again) until I knew that prefs.js (the
> about:config file) was responsible.
> I then checked the more than a 6000 lines of that file in the same manner
> (deleting half the lines each time) to find the offending option.
> At that time I thought half my hair had gone grey!
>
> The only two sites affected by this was djangoproject.com and djangobook.com
> Could be a django configuration issue on those, as other django powered
> sites behaved normally.

Ok - this is a little concerning. Are you saying that passing an
invalid language preference as part of your request header causes
Django sites (or, at least, some Django sites) to break? If so, this
sounds like something that needs to be fixed in Django.

> I'm SO glad that my frustrating time hunting this down actually helped
> another soul! :D

If you haven't torn all your hair out hunting this problem down in the
first place, I'd appreciate any help you can provide in narrowing this
problem down to a specific set of circumstances or configurations
(both client side and server side).

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

Sorry for the rant but I can finally express my delayed frustration on 
this bug..


I first I spent some 2-3 hours trying to find out if this problem came 
from a broken ipv6 configuration.
Then, I actually had to delete all my profile files (delete half, find 
out if it solves it, restore, delete half again) until I knew that 
prefs.js (the about:config file) was responsible.
I then checked the more than a 6000 lines of that file in the same 
manner (deleting half the lines each time) to find the offending option.

At that time I thought half my hair had gone grey!

The only two sites affected by this was djangoproject.com and 
djangobook.com Could be a django configuration issue on those, as other 
django powered sites behaved normally.


I'm SO glad that my frustrating time hunting this down actually helped 
another soul! :D


I don't know why my profile had the locale option as such. I've migrated 
this profile from windows, then ubuntu karmic to ubuntu lucid, and I'm 
also using weave sync so I can't tell for sure. Hopefully, once you know 
it's there you can easily fix it :)


I'm also sorry for double-posting the last mail. I have both mail 
accounts configured for the  list and thought only one would go through 
as the first answer I sent lagged significantly. I hope this gets sent 
properly.


Glad i could be of help, Nick

On 07/08/2010 06:32 PM, Andi wrote:

On Jul 8, 5:12 pm, Nick Raptis  wrote:
   

If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf"
or something) instead of a locale like en-US,
some django pages won't ever display.
 

That's it.  You have to *remove* this non-standard value, it's not
sufficient to add another locale to the first position.

Thank you very much, I would never have found this.
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Andi]

On Jul 8, 5:12 pm, Nick Raptis  wrote:
> If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf"
> or something) instead of a locale like en-US,
> some django pages won't ever display.

That's it.  You have to *remove* this non-standard value, it's not
sufficient to add another locale to the first position.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

Hey, haven't read the whole thread but I spend a whole day last month 
troubleshooting something like this.


In firefox, check your preffered language settings, in the content tab.

If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf" 
or something) instead of a locale like en-US,

some django pages won't ever display.

Nick

On 07/08/2010 04:11 PM, eon wrote:

Same for me. The problem is in the firefox profile (maybe due to the
switch from 3.5 to 3.6 ?)

Start-up with a new profile (backport plugins, bookmarks argh...)
resolves the issue

On 5 juil, 20:52, Andi  wrote:


On Jul 2, 10:44 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:



What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
on linux.


I have the same problem regarding djangoproject.com (Firefox 3.6.6 on
Ubuntu).  Everything works but Firefox using my default profile: host
and nslookup succeed in resolving the domain name.  Adding the IP to /
etc/hosts or accessing the IP address directly in firefox doesn't
help.  Opera, chromium, arora, w3m, elinks, lynx and konqueror are not
affected.  Firefoxes on other hosts within the same LAN can connect to
djangoproject.com without a problem.  Disabling all add-ons living in
my Firefox doesn't have an effect -- but starting with a fresh profile
does: djangoproject.com loads successfully.

It's a very strange problem, because there is no problem with the
other thousands of websites I've visited during the last days.  It's
the combination djangoproject.com + my main Firefox profile which
produces the problem exclusively.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Nick Raptis]

Hey, haven't read the whole thread but I spend a whole day last month 
troubleshooting something like this.


In firefox, check your preffered language settings, in the content tab.

If there is a non-standard value there (perhaps "/etc/locale/prefs.conf" 
or something) instead of a locale like en-US,

some django pages won't ever display.

Nick

On 07/08/2010 04:11 PM, eon wrote:

Same for me. The problem is in the firefox profile (maybe due to the
switch from 3.5 to 3.6 ?)

Start-up with a new profile (backport plugins, bookmarks argh...)
resolves the issue

On 5 juil, 20:52, Andi  wrote:
   

On Jul 2, 10:44 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:

 

What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
on linux.
   

I have the same problem regarding djangoproject.com (Firefox 3.6.6 on
Ubuntu).  Everything works but Firefox using my default profile: host
and nslookup succeed in resolving the domain name.  Adding the IP to /
etc/hosts or accessing the IP address directly in firefox doesn't
help.  Opera, chromium, arora, w3m, elinks, lynx and konqueror are not
affected.  Firefoxes on other hosts within the same LAN can connect to
djangoproject.com without a problem.  Disabling all add-ons living in
my Firefox doesn't have an effect -- but starting with a fresh profile
does: djangoproject.com loads successfully.

It's a very strange problem, because there is no problem with the
other thousands of websites I've visited during the last days.  It's
the combination djangoproject.com + my main Firefox profile which
produces the problem exclusively.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[eon]

Same for me. The problem is in the firefox profile (maybe due to the
switch from 3.5 to 3.6 ?)

Start-up with a new profile (backport plugins, bookmarks argh...)
resolves the issue

On 5 juil, 20:52, Andi  wrote:
> On Jul 2, 10:44 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:
>
> > What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
> > on linux.
>
> I have the same problem regarding djangoproject.com (Firefox 3.6.6 on
> Ubuntu).  Everything works but Firefox using my default profile: host
> and nslookup succeed in resolving the domain name.  Adding the IP to /
> etc/hosts or accessing the IP address directly in firefox doesn't
> help.  Opera, chromium, arora, w3m, elinks, lynx and konqueror are not
> affected.  Firefoxes on other hosts within the same LAN can connect to
> djangoproject.com without a problem.  Disabling all add-ons living in
> my Firefox doesn't have an effect -- but starting with a fresh profile
> does: djangoproject.com loads successfully.
>
> It's a very strange problem, because there is no problem with the
> other thousands of websites I've visited during the last days.  It's
> the combination djangoproject.com + my main Firefox profile which
> produces the problem exclusively.
>
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Andi]

On Jul 2, 10:44 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:
> What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
> on linux.

I have the same problem regarding djangoproject.com (Firefox 3.6.6 on
Ubuntu).  Everything works but Firefox using my default profile: host
and nslookup succeed in resolving the domain name.  Adding the IP to /
etc/hosts or accessing the IP address directly in firefox doesn't
help.  Opera, chromium, arora, w3m, elinks, lynx and konqueror are not
affected.  Firefoxes on other hosts within the same LAN can connect to
djangoproject.com without a problem.  Disabling all add-ons living in
my Firefox doesn't have an effect -- but starting with a fresh profile
does: djangoproject.com loads successfully.

It's a very strange problem, because there is no problem with the
other thousands of websites I've visited during the last days.  It's
the combination djangoproject.com + my main Firefox profile which
produces the problem exclusively.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Julio Cesar Rodriguez Cruz]

For windows and others OS, you can find the hosts file in this table:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_file#Content_and_location

Julio Cesar

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> What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
> on linux.  There is a hosts file on Windows, but I'm no expert in Windows
> so I can't tell you where it is or any funky things about the format.  That
> would let you try the site (just putting the IP address in the browser
> location bar doesn't seem to work, making me presume that the site
> is in an apache  or equivalent).
>
> Another nifty tool for diagnosing DNS problems is nslookup, but, again,
> I can't tell you what to use on windows.
>
> Bill
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, mhulse  wrote:
>>> try rebooting, but there could be other DNS caches between you and a
>>> good name server.
>>
>> If that's the case, would OpenDNS be of any help?
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Bill Freeman]

What might be of help is adding the IP address to /etc/hosts, if you are
on linux.  There is a hosts file on Windows, but I'm no expert in Windows
so I can't tell you where it is or any funky things about the format.  That
would let you try the site (just putting the IP address in the browser
location bar doesn't seem to work, making me presume that the site
is in an apache  or equivalent).

Another nifty tool for diagnosing DNS problems is nslookup, but, again,
I can't tell you what to use on windows.

Bill

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>> good name server.
>
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

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> try rebooting, but there could be other DNS caches between you and a
> good name server.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[George Sakkis]

On Jul 1, 8:41 pm, Carsten Fuchs  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:
>
> > I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfrom Buenos Aires, Argentina.
> > Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
>
> > Is anyone else having problems?
>
> I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
> Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
> Will try telnet next time as well.
>
> I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique combination 
> "Firefox under Lucid
> Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply doesn't 
> respond to the
> initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure what to 
> make from that, tough.

For the last 12 hours at least I can't connect with Firefox under
Lucid from two different computers and IPs. I just tried Chromium
under Lucid and it does connect. So indeed there's something funny
going on with the Firefox/Ubuntu combo.

George

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Felippe Bueno]

www.djangoproject.com has address 64.207.133.18



On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:07 PM, FC  wrote:

> $ ping www.djangoproject.com
> PING www.djangoproject.com (64.207.133.18) 56(84) bytes of data.
>
>
> Can you confirm this is ok?
> I get no response but at least it resolves to something.
>
> On Jul 1, 4:50 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:
> > You might have a poisoned DNS cache.  Since this is Windows, you could
> > try rebooting, but there could be other DNS caches between you and a
> > good name server.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:37 PM, FC  wrote:
> > > On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, Carsten Fuchs  wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> >
> > >> Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:
> >
> > >> > I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfromBuenos Aires, Argentina.
> > >> > Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
> >
> > >> > Is anyone else having problems?
> >
> > >> I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid
> Lynx).
> > >> Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
> > >> Will try telnet next time as well.
> >
> > >> I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique
> combination "Firefox under Lucid
> > >> Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply
> doesn't respond to the
> > >> initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure
> what to make from that, tough.
> >
> > > I can't access from Win2k with Firefox and Opera.
> > > I can't access either from Gentoo and Links.
> >
> > > It's really weird because I can use any other site just fine.
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Tim Chase]

On 07/01/2010 02:37 PM, FC wrote:

I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the
unique combination "Firefox under Lucid Lynx accessing
djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply
doesn't respond to the initial HTTP GET request (or the
reply never gets through). Not sure what to make from that,
tough.


I can't access from Win2k with Firefox and Opera. I can't
access either from Gentoo and Links.

It's really weird because I can use any other site just fine.


I don't know if throwing in this in the mix helps or if it's just
a red herring, but I had difficulties accessing the
docs.python.org a while back and the issue turned out to be IPv6
related (my ISP wasn't routing IPv6 properly).  I disabled it on
my PC and suddenly d.p.o started working.  Don't know if
www.djangoproject.com uses IPv6.

-tkc


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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[FC]

$ ping www.djangoproject.com
PING www.djangoproject.com (64.207.133.18) 56(84) bytes of data.


Can you confirm this is ok?
I get no response but at least it resolves to something.

On Jul 1, 4:50 pm, Bill Freeman  wrote:
> You might have a poisoned DNS cache.  Since this is Windows, you could
> try rebooting, but there could be other DNS caches between you and a
> good name server.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:37 PM, FC  wrote:
> > On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, Carsten Fuchs  wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:
>
> >> > I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfromBuenos Aires, Argentina.
> >> > Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
>
> >> > Is anyone else having problems?
>
> >> I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
> >> Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
> >> Will try telnet next time as well.
>
> >> I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique 
> >> combination "Firefox under Lucid
> >> Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply 
> >> doesn't respond to the
> >> initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure what 
> >> to make from that, tough.
>
> > I can't access from Win2k with Firefox and Opera.
> > I can't access either from Gentoo and Links.
>
> > It's really weird because I can use any other site just fine.
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Bill Freeman]

You might have a poisoned DNS cache.  Since this is Windows, you could
try rebooting, but there could be other DNS caches between you and a
good name server.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:37 PM, FC  wrote:
> On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, Carsten Fuchs  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:
>>
>> > I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfrom Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> > Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
>>
>> > Is anyone else having problems?
>>
>> I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
>> Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
>> Will try telnet next time as well.
>>
>> I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique combination 
>> "Firefox under Lucid
>> Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply doesn't 
>> respond to the
>> initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure what to 
>> make from that, tough.
>>
> I can't access from Win2k with Firefox and Opera.
> I can't access either from Gentoo and Links.
>
> It's really weird because I can use any other site just fine.
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[FC]

On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, Carsten Fuchs  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:
>
> > I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfrom Buenos Aires, Argentina.
> > Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
>
> > Is anyone else having problems?
>
> I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
> Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
> Will try telnet next time as well.
>
> I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique combination 
> "Firefox under Lucid
> Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply doesn't 
> respond to the
> initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure what to 
> make from that, tough.
>
I can't access from Win2k with Firefox and Opera.
I can't access either from Gentoo and Links.

It's really weird because I can use any other site just fine.

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Carsten Fuchs]

Hi all,

Am 01.07.2010 19:40, schrieb FC:

I can't access www.djangoproject.com from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"

Is anyone else having problems?


I experience the same when I use Firefox under Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx).
Using Firefox under Windows or Epiphany under Ubuntu works.
Will try telnet next time as well.

I already used Wireshark to see what's going on with the unique combination "Firefox under Lucid 
Lynx accessing djangoproject.com": the djangoproject.com host simply doesn't respond to the 
initial HTTP GET request (or the reply never gets through). Not sure what to make from that, tough.


Best regards,
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Iván Raskovsky]

Buenos Aires, Arnet and Fibertel (ISPs) OK.
Iván

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Felippe Bueno wrote:

> Sao Paulo, Brazil ok.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Rob Broadhead 
> wrote:
>
>> Works fine for me.
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:40 PM, FC wrote:
>>
>> I can't access www.djangoproject.com from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
>>
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Felippe Bueno]

Sao Paulo, Brazil ok.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Rob Broadhead wrote:

> Works fine for me.
>
> On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:40 PM, FC wrote:
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> I can't access www.djangoproject.com from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
> Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Daniel Roseman]

On Jul 1, 6:40 pm, FC  wrote:
> I can't accesswww.djangoproject.comfrom Buenos Aires, Argentina.
> Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"
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http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.djangoproject.com

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Re: www.djangoproject.com

[Rob Broadhead]

Works fine for me.

On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:40 PM, FC wrote:


I can't access www.djangoproject.com from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Firefox says: "The connection has timed out"

Is anyone else having problems?

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Re: www.djangoproject.com nameservers returning SERVFAIL response

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I'm connecting fine so the problem is probably with your DNS(looks
like OpenDNS).

On Apr 22, 1:23 pm, Michael Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this info but nslookup
> onwww.djangoproject.comis failing.
> Nameserver trace forwww.djangoproject.com:
>
> * Looking for who is responsible for root zone and followed k.root-
> servers.net.
> * Looking for who is responsible for com and followed k.gtld-
> servers.net.
> * Looking for who is responsible for djangoproject.com and
> followed ns2.mediatemple.net.
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> Nameservers forwww.djangoproject.com:
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> * ns1.mediatemple.net returned (SERVFAIL)
> * ns2.mediatemple.net returned (SERVFAIL)
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