Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
Wow! Those are some obscure pages! Yes, they do look as though they have not been as thoroughly ironed-out as some other pages although i am sure we are so hasty right now that errors are possible everywhere. I have to say that government documents tend to be hideously full of cliches and buzz-words (oops is that old now?) and grotesquely long meandering sentences that end up being almost completely meaningless. Almost like academic papers but tending to induce winces at tautologies and mixed metaphors. By contrast business documents should be 1. short 2. bullet pointed, 4. bad seplings and tpyos 5.Not quite laid out properly 9 inconsistent but very definite! As for the quality of English i think what we have is far better than the quality of English spoken by the vast majority of people here in England. One quick trip down to any council housing estate would make you appreciate the finesse and elegance we have on our website even before proofreading. If you do proofread it down to boring correctness then i am sure it would be appreciated tho :) Good luck and regards from Tom :) PS Wow, that fun :) From: Clayton Walker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 22:13:22 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.) Hm... no, I believe I do mean on libreoffice.org there is some horrible engrish... If we take, for example, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-at-home/, we read "Make your children's homework!" Moving on, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-in-business/ has many classics, such as "You'll never lose any document!" or "You can exploit your email (Outlook/Thunderbird) data in business operations." Really? Exploit? I mean come on. Just one more click away, on what is probably my favorite page, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-in-government/, we have this wonderful sentence, and I quote, "which protects from obsolescence of protocol... ...for a long time and still be readable in future." I must congratulate whoever wrote this (and I sincerely mean that with no hint of sarcasm) on their... attempt to write properly, however it PAINS me to have to read such writing on a website... advertising document creation. Almost ironic, in a sense. Also, that about Google Translate was a joke. So, as I was saying earlier, the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is atrocious, and I'd be happy to volunteer my time to fix it. -Clayton (Town of Clay) Walker On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:42:55 +0100 > Clayton Walker wrote: > > > How does one volunteer to be a proof reader? I'd like to help, because > > the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is kicking my a**. I'd say > > my English is pretty swell, I don't (usually) make mistakes, and I > > certainly don't use Google Translate on the front of a webpage, if > > you know what I'm saying. > > > > To which site might you be referring, I wonder. There are several > sites listed on http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/. I'm > not certain as to the usage of a translate tool on any of them. At > any rate, the l10n list >(l10n+subscr...@libreoffice.org) > would be more > appropriate to address your concerns, and offer your services, regarding > translation. > > > -- jdc > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Welcome to my signature! Please note that this signature is licensed under the General Public License. By embedding the signature, or parts of it, into your brain other than by mere aggregation, your brain becomes a combined, and therefore derived, work and thus must be licensed under the GPL too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco
Looks great :) All languages clearly being equal. But surely some languages have sub-divisions? Such as en-gb, en-aus, en-us and so on? Also is LibreOffice Documentation or LibreOffice/Documentation Although either way is good. Anyway getting rid of that extra folder in the middle to make all languages equal is definitely a good move and i think that was the important part of your message. :) Regards from Tom :) From: Jeremy Cartwright To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 23:30:14 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:08:28 -0600 Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > Perhaps I'm making too much of it... Perhaps I am. To avoid being the gatekeeper here, I propose to change the current `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/catalog/` space structure to `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/en/` Then creating: Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/it/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/fr/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/de/ ... and so on as needed. I will make these changes unless I hear otherwise. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template repository maintenance
Hi Tom, :-) Sure, no problem. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template repository maintenance
Hi :) Ahh, that is something i would be really bad at i think. I have a feeling that a lot of projects have a core-group of "official templates" and then community or user websites with attractive names with themes and skins and things developed by users. So, i think we are working at the official ones right now. Shouldn't this be a job for the Design Team? ;) Hmm, maybe not. I might have a bit of a look tomorrow tho. Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson To: documentation Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 5:43:39 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Template repository maintenance Hi, :-) When I was working over the "Get Involved" section of the libreoffice.org website, I was trying to figure out who to dump the subject of template development on. In the end, I concluded that it's an area in which the docs team could be active. We're currently very short on templates to offer our user base. To be more precise, our template download page [1] has precisely two templates (thanks to Ron Faile for developing them). This is not a very generous endowment, yet templates can be a major productivity-booster for LibreOffice users. My idea is that we could trawl the Web and acquire a good collection, upload them to Alfresco, work on them, and then put them on our template download page [1] with a credit to the author, as well as sending back a copy to the original source (when the said source/author is locatable). We could possibly highlight the best 10 of the bunch on the libreoffice.org Features > Templates page [2]. There are various sites we could get Open Source templates from, but we need to be *very* careful about checking the licensing of the said templates for GPL/Creative Commons licensing: - http://opentemplate.org/ - http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ - http://www.smalldataproblem.org/ooextras/ - http://www.presentationmagazine.com/free-open-office-impress-templates-91.htm The above are just a few possible sources. There are many templates out there that fulfill the same purpose, but they are often far from being equal in terms of quality and design. The goal would be to collect only the best, so that we only offer good produce to our users. What do you think of this idea? Any takers for getting involved in this? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates [2] http://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/ [3] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/documenters/ David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco
Lol, another "already done or being done" and another "waiting for Florian". Both the usual results in 1 ! Hopefully he is not working at this while driving across Germany! The people in TDF & LibreOffice are great :) Regards from Tom ) From: David Nelson To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 6:03:19 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco Hi, :-) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 00:55, Tom Davies wrote: > So, it sounds as though the translations mailing lists need to know about the > Alfresco developments because there is likely to be considerable overlap with > work they have already done. I had planned to do announce the existence of Alfresco to l10n people once the site rolls over to it's new alfresco.libreoffice.org name (Florian will *try* to have time for that this coming week, he says). But, if fact, some of them already seem to be aware of it... It looks like we'll have more work that could be done on developing workflows catering to l10n - once we figure out what their exact needs are (perhaps already at least partially covered by what Jeremy's been doing?) In any case, I'll be running to catch up with things this week, when I've finished with my current job for a client. Jeremy, Samphan, thanks for all the work you've been doing. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco
Hi, :-) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 00:55, Tom Davies wrote: > So, it sounds as though the translations mailing lists need to know about the > Alfresco developments because there is likely to be considerable overlap with > work they have already done. I had planned to do announce the existence of Alfresco to l10n people once the site rolls over to it's new alfresco.libreoffice.org name (Florian will *try* to have time for that this coming week, he says). But, if fact, some of them already seem to be aware of it... It looks like we'll have more work that could be done on developing workflows catering to l10n - once we figure out what their exact needs are (perhaps already at least partially covered by what Jeremy's been doing?) In any case, I'll be running to catch up with things this week, when I've finished with my current job for a client. Jeremy, Samphan, thanks for all the work you've been doing. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] translation spaces
All; There are now spaces in Alfresco for the list of languages as found here: http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/, plus Italian, Swedish & Hindi. The new spaces are exact replicas of the old 'catalog' space, complete with the workflow rules. The catalog space was renamed en. Please navigate now to 'Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/en/whichever book you need'. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Hi Surat, Tom, :-) Welcome to the team, and thanks for volunteering. :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 02:51, Tom Davies wrote: > I'm still hoping someone else can help you register with the LibreOffice and > DocumentFoundation ones though. If Surat actually needs an account on libreoffice.org he can certainly have one. As for documentfoundation.org, it's not possible to sign-up for an account there at present. The Alfresco site would be the most important, I guess, and I see Jeremy's already taken care of that. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Template repository maintenance
Hi, :-) When I was working over the "Get Involved" section of the libreoffice.org website, I was trying to figure out who to dump the subject of template development on. In the end, I concluded that it's an area in which the docs team could be active. We're currently very short on templates to offer our user base. To be more precise, our template download page [1] has precisely two templates (thanks to Ron Faile for developing them). This is not a very generous endowment, yet templates can be a major productivity-booster for LibreOffice users. My idea is that we could trawl the Web and acquire a good collection, upload them to Alfresco, work on them, and then put them on our template download page [1] with a credit to the author, as well as sending back a copy to the original source (when the said source/author is locatable). We could possibly highlight the best 10 of the bunch on the libreoffice.org Features > Templates page [2]. There are various sites we could get Open Source templates from, but we need to be *very* careful about checking the licensing of the said templates for GPL/Creative Commons licensing: - http://opentemplate.org/ - http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ - http://www.smalldataproblem.org/ooextras/ - http://www.presentationmagazine.com/free-open-office-impress-templates-91.htm The above are just a few possible sources. There are many templates out there that fulfill the same purpose, but they are often far from being equal in terms of quality and design. The goal would be to collect only the best, so that we only offer good produce to our users. What do you think of this idea? Any takers for getting involved in this? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Downloads/Templates [2] http://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/ [3] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/documenters/ David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page
Hi Tom, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 13:08, Tom Davies wrote: > Ok. I might not do the thing you ask but it would be good to hear. OK, I'll start a new thread called "Template repository maintenance" and post back there. Obviously, it's purely a tentative idea and thank you for being willing to listen to it. > I am on the website mailing list but haven't noticed any chats there for a > while. It's possible that i accidentally filtered or unsubscribed so i will > have a look. I thought you were the main person for the website anyway? The website mailing list is *very* active. Are you sure you're signed up for the right list, Tom? The subscription address is: website+subscr...@libreoffice.org It's the best place for questions and discussions concerning SilverStripe and anything a bit "webby". David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page
Hi :) Ok. I might not do the thing you ask but it would be good to hear. I am on the website mailing list but haven't noticed any chats there for a while. It's possible that i accidentally filtered or unsubscribed so i will have a look. I thought you were the main person for the website anyway? Many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 5:01:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page Hi Tom, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:03, Tom Davies wrote: > I think i could re-organise the "Get Help" web-page a bit if that's not too > cheeky. I think this order might be 'better'? > >* Accessibility information: >* FAQs: contains System requirements: >* Installation instructions: > >* Documentation: >* Mailing lists: >* IRC channels: It might be good practice for me to do something > radical >like > that. Or perhaps FAQs and Accessibility are usually at the end so people know > where to look for them? Thanks for the too-kind words, Tom, but I'm not sure they're justified. Anyway: As regards changes to the site's IA, the path would be to sign-up for the website mailing list, post a suggestion there, discuss the ideas thoroughly with the other members of the website team, and with the design team, and get their go-ahead before actually doing anything. There are already discussions on the subject that are on-going there. ;-) If you're interested in some work, I'd have an idea to offer you if you like? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
Hi :) I think you 2 are the main people doing the work so i think a lot of people regard you both very highly. People work better in different ways and it is good to hear hints&tips from the people that are having success. I am still struggling with basics and distractions, sorry. Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 4:26:54 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > What I've found is that the only step that takes significant amounts of > time is checking the figures -- I get through all the other stuff in less > than half an hour, and the majority of that is changing the > signs to > arrows in OOoComputerCode. So the changing of the tables, using context menu > and menu bar, and so on is basically in the noise. We have approximately 60 chapters to do. If 15 minutes are spent per chapter doing nonessential rebranding things, that's *15 hours* of time that could have been better spent on something more productive. > I think we have to consider online users and not just printed copy users; > the > > This sentence has been truncated. I'm wondering what you intended to say. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page
Hi Tom, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:03, Tom Davies wrote: > I think i could re-organise the "Get Help" web-page a bit if that's not too > cheeky. I think this order might be 'better'? > > * Accessibility information: > * FAQs: contains System requirements: > * Installation instructions: > > * Documentation: > * Mailing lists: > * IRC channels: It might be good practice for me to do something > radical like > that. Or perhaps FAQs and Accessibility are usually at the end so people know > where to look for them? Thanks for the too-kind words, Tom, but I'm not sure they're justified. Anyway: As regards changes to the site's IA, the path would be to sign-up for the website mailing list, post a suggestion there, discuss the ideas thoroughly with the other members of the website team, and with the design team, and get their go-ahead before actually doing anything. There are already discussions on the subject that are on-going there. ;-) If you're interested in some work, I'd have an idea to offer you if you like? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice docs for Ubuntu
Hi Fabian, :-) 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguez : > I've consolidated the notes I had about LibreOffice and Ubuntu at: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice > > I've shared it with the Ubuntu community on identi.ca and I hope it will > provide an easy resource to refer to. > > Any comments / suggestions are welcome - direct edits to the wiki are > *most* welcome :) Thanks for this. I've bookmarked the message so as to update our Linux installation instructions. (We already recommend preferring installations from a distrib's repos rather than the community-supplied downloads, which are provided to cater to special cases and to people who love life at the bleeding edge, and who want to install the most-recent version before it trickles down from repos.) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice docs for Ubuntu
Hi I've consolidated the notes I had about LibreOffice and Ubuntu at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice I've shared it with the Ubuntu community on identi.ca and I hope it will provide an easy resource to refer to. Any comments / suggestions are welcome - direct edits to the wiki are *most* welcome :) Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: > What I've found is that the only step that takes significant amounts of > time is checking the figures -- I get through all the other stuff in less > than half an hour, and the majority of that is changing the > signs to > arrows in OOoComputerCode. So the changing of the tables, using context menu > and menu bar, and so on is basically in the noise. We have approximately 60 chapters to do. If 15 minutes are spent per chapter doing nonessential rebranding things, that's *15 hours* of time that could have been better spent on something more productive. > I think we have to consider online users and not just printed copy users; > the > > This sentence has been truncated. I'm wondering what you intended to say. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] "Get Help" page
Hi :) I realise you are not "head of the team" but you are excellent at co-ordinating effort and freeing people up so that they (Hal & Barbara and possibly others i don't notice) can get on with the heavy lifting. And you are blatantly doing a lot of heavy lifting too. Seems like good leadership to me. I think i could re-organise the "Get Help" web-page a bit if that's not too cheeky. I think this order might be 'better'? * Accessibility information: * FAQs: contains System requirements: * Installation instructions: * Documentation: * Mailing lists: * IRC channels: It might be good practice for me to do something radical like that. Or perhaps FAQs and Accessibility are usually at the end so people know where to look for them? Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 1:57:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.) Hi, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 07:01, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > by David Nelson, the head of that project. Erm, well, I'm not the "head of the project" by any means, but I did a lot of work on the site's pages and tend to fuss over them like a mother hen. Although I didn't write the "Why?" pages you're talking about, Clayton. Sometimes we get volunteers who aren't mother-tongue English speakers, and we don't turn down their contribution at all. We just do extra proofreading and correction for them. Someone had earmarked those pages to work on them, but that was some days ago and I see they haven't started yet, so there's no reason why you shouldn't jump in and start the ball rolling. I created an account for you and gave you author permissions, and mailed you the details off-list. Thanks for volunteering! :-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
Hi :) I think people have got to do what they works best for themselves. After we have finished and got 1 set of completed documentation out there then we can work at fixing inconsistencies and detail. Obviously that is going to be easier when we get to the pages you have done and you are likely to find it easy to fix tables and coding on a few people's pages. "Speed is of the essence" now because we have product out there, fully released, but with no documentation to back it up. If we can get a 2nd release of documentation out there soon after our 1st then we might redeem ourselves. I do realise i am the slacker here. I can see all you guys working hard and getting excellent results fast. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Barbara Duprey To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 3:39:28 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role On 1/29/2011 2:43 AM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Hal, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:38, Hal Parker wrote: >> The one thing I am definitely NOT doing is changing the borders and the row >> colours in tables of data. Now that the OOo books have their tables in >> black, white, and gray, I can't see the need for taking the time to change >> them to a slightly different pattern of black, white, and gray. > IMHO, you're absolutely right. Surely it's not an important branding > issue. I don't think we have to get pedantic about things, especially > when it involves a lot of work of secondary priority. > > This coming week, I'll start helping you out, and will post at that > time to liaise with you about where I should jump in. > > David Nelson What I've found is that the only step that takes significant amounts of time is checking the figures -- I get through all the other stuff in less than half an hour, and the majority of that is changing the > signs to arrows in OOoComputerCode. So the changing of the tables, using context menu and menu bar, and so on is basically in the noise. I think we have to consider online users and not just printed copy users; the -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
On 1/29/2011 2:51 AM, Hal Parker wrote: I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format> Title Page, and I want to write it up. Hal You're right, the whole Title Page thing is new. There seem to be some things missing, too -- I've submitted a couple of bugs, which turned up when I was trying to verify figures. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
On 1/29/2011 2:43 AM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Hal, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:38, Hal Parker wrote: The one thing I am definitely NOT doing is changing the borders and the row colours in tables of data. Now that the OOo books have their tables in black, white, and gray, I can't see the need for taking the time to change them to a slightly different pattern of black, white, and gray. IMHO, you're absolutely right. Surely it's not an important branding issue. I don't think we have to get pedantic about things, especially when it involves a lot of work of secondary priority. This coming week, I'll start helping you out, and will post at that time to liaise with you about where I should jump in. David Nelson What I've found is that the only step that takes significant amounts of time is checking the figures -- I get through all the other stuff in less than half an hour, and the majority of that is changing the > signs to arrows in OOoComputerCode. So the changing of the tables, using context menu and menu bar, and so on is basically in the noise. I think we have to consider online users and not just printed copy users; the -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide Chapters 2-10 now in Alfresco
I have uploaded the OOo 3.2 Draw Guide chapters 2 through 10 to Alfresco. These will need a bit more rebranding work because they use an earlier OOoAuthors template with quite a different design. Most of it should take care of itself when you apply the LibO template, but the tables of data will have dark blue borders and header backgrounds, for example. I am working on Chapter 1 for OOo3.3 and will make it available on Alfresco when it's done... I hope by the end of next weekend. Forecast cyclone track has shifted further south, so we might be lucky in terms of wind, rain, and (lack of) electricity outages. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
Hi, :-) On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 07:01, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > by David Nelson, the head of that project. Erm, well, I'm not the "head of the project" by any means, but I did a lot of work on the site's pages and tend to fuss over them like a mother hen. Although I didn't write the "Why?" pages you're talking about, Clayton. Sometimes we get volunteers who aren't mother-tongue English speakers, and we don't turn down their contribution at all. We just do extra proofreading and correction for them. Someone had earmarked those pages to work on them, but that was some days ago and I see they haven't started yet, so there's no reason why you shouldn't jump in and start the ball rolling. I created an account for you and gave you author permissions, and mailed you the details off-list. Thanks for volunteering! :-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:08:28 -0600 Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > Perhaps I'm making too much of it... Perhaps I am. To avoid being the gatekeeper here, I propose to change the current `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/catalog/` space structure to `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/en/` Then creating: Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/it/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/fr/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/de/ ... and so on as needed. I will make these changes unless I hear otherwise. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: General question about translation of documentation and organisation within Alfresco
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:08:28 -0600 Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > Perhaps I'm making too much of it... Perhaps I am. To avoid being the gatekeeper here, I propose to change the current `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/catalog/` space structure to `Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/en/` Then creating: Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/it/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/fr/ Company Home/LibreOffice Documentation/de/ ... and so on as needed. I will make these changes unless I hear otherwise. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:13:22 +0100 Clayton Walker wrote: > I do mean on libreoffice.org Ah, very well then. To begin work on www.libreoffice.org you need to create an account, and that account must have its privileges elevated by David Nelson, the head of that project. A link to create an account is: http://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register A link to login to the Silverstripe back end is: http://libreoffice.org/admin And some helpful links on working with the Silverstripe framework are: 1) SilverStripe demo site: http://demo.silverstripe.com/ 2) General documentation on SilverStripe, the CMS used for libreoffice.org: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverStripe [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverStripe#Documentation [3] http://doc.silverstripe.org/ 3) Documentation that will be especially useful to you when learning to contribute work via the SilverStripe back-end: [1] http://userhelp.silverstripe.org/for-website-content-editors/creating-and-editing-content/ [2] http://userhelp.silverstripe.org/for-website-content-editors/working-with-images-and-documents/ I believe the pages you are referencing are due for an overhaul, so don't feel you must stick to the bullet point layout. Thank you for your offer, and welcome to the team. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:12:12 +0100 elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote: > Is it possible to get an account for alfresco, Certainly. The prevailing standard for ones user id on Alfresco is first and last name. Would you like an alfresco account setup with that user id? If so, what are they? Otherwise, what do you prefer? -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
Hm... no, I believe I do mean on libreoffice.org there is some horrible engrish... If we take, for example, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-at-home/, we read "Make your children's homework!" Moving on, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-in-business/ has many classics, such as "You'll never lose any document!" or "You can exploit your email (Outlook/Thunderbird) data in business operations." Really? Exploit? I mean come on. Just one more click away, on what is probably my favorite page, http://www.libreoffice.org/home/why-use-libreoffice-in-government/, we have this wonderful sentence, and I quote, "which protects from obsolescence of protocol... ...for a long time and still be readable in future." I must congratulate whoever wrote this (and I sincerely mean that with no hint of sarcasm) on their... attempt to write properly, however it PAINS me to have to read such writing on a website... advertising document creation. Almost ironic, in a sense. Also, that about Google Translate was a joke. So, as I was saying earlier, the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is atrocious, and I'd be happy to volunteer my time to fix it. -Clayton (Town of Clay) Walker On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:42:55 +0100 > Clayton Walker wrote: > > > How does one volunteer to be a proof reader? I'd like to help, because > > the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is kicking my a**. I'd say > > my English is pretty swell, I don't (usually) make mistakes, and I > > certainly don't use Google Translate on the front of a webpage, if > > you know what I'm saying. > > > > To which site might you be referring, I wonder. There are several > sites listed on http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/. I'm > not certain as to the usage of a translate tool on any of them. At > any rate, the l10n list > (l10n+subscr...@libreoffice.org) > would be more > appropriate to address your concerns, and offer your services, regarding > translation. > > > -- jdc > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Welcome to my signature! Please note that this signature is licensed under the General Public License. By embedding the signature, or parts of it, into your brain other than by mere aggregation, your brain becomes a combined, and therefore derived, work and thus must be licensed under the GPL too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Thanks for the link. -Surat On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > There are a few websites. An important one is the wiki > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org > > I'm still hoping someone else can help you register with the LibreOffice > and > DocumentFoundation ones though. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 18:03:08 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > Is all the text on the site also produced by the documentation team, or > another team? I would be interested in helping with that. If anyone could > help me get access, let me know! > > -Surat > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > > I don't know how to help with registration and login. Hopefully someone > > will > > help you get setup soon. > > > > Good luck and regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 16:27:04 > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > > > Thanks for the welcome! I think I'll start with reviewing and proof > > reading, > > and perhaps expand later, depending on time and how it goes. > > > > -Surat > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Tom Davies > >wrote: > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > Welcome in. Resumes and examples are not necessary. Just register and > > > start > > > working your magic. > > > > > > > > > There are probably some guidelines to help with all this alfresco > > newness. > > > Alfresco is a fairly new system to us but it is rapidly getting much > > better > > > as > > > people get used to it and report problems to the list so that they get > > > fixed. > > > > > > There are probably more guidelines to try to help us try to stay > > > reasonably > > > consistent although i think we should avoid being excessive about that > > > otherwise > > > it will take too long to get our first finished result out there. > > > > > > > > > I think our main focus should be on making sure we don't accidentally > say > > > OpenOffice where we should say LibreOffice. Apart from that i think we > > can > > > forgive each other a lot. > > > > > > Reviewing is probably an excellent idea because then you can just jump > > > straight > > > in without worrying about the guidelines too much and perhaps just > build > > up > > > from there. > > > > > > Good luck and welcome in from > > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > > > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 19:25:45 > > > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > > > > > Hello LibreOffice documentation team! > > > > > > I'm interested in contributing to LibreOffice, and since I don't know > how > > > to > > > code and I do know how to write, the documentation team seemed like a > > good > > > fit. Of the areas listed on libreoffice.org, the two that most > interest > > me > > > (and I could do best) are "Authoring" and "Proofreading, reviewing and > > > editing." I worked as an assistant editor for the newspaper at my > > college, > > > so I have experience writing, editing, and proofreading (I also took > > > classes > > > in journalism). I use Writer and Impess with some regularity, although > > I'm > > > no LibreOffice expert. I would be happy to send along some of my > writing > > or > > > even a resume, if that would be useful. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Surat Lozowick > > > > > > Student, Writer, Creator > > > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > > > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > > > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org< > documentation%2bh...@libreoffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org< > documentation%2bh...@libreoffice.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -Surat Lozowick > > > > Student, Writer, Creator > > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > > Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ > > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list a
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Jean Hollis Weber ha scritto: On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:12 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other languages, they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in ODF-Fileformat. *Published* documents are going on the wiki. Alfresco is only for working on the docs. --Jean Hello *, Is it possible to get an account for alfresco, to have a look at it, before the italian team starts working on ODFAuthors for libreoffice localization? So that we avoid starting on ODFAuthors and switch after a month or two to alfresco... Where to register? Links? Thank you! Namaste all! :) -- cico Icq/Licq/Gaim #175451007 Debian Powered Linux Registered User #310800 at http://counter.li.org No retreat baby no surrender www.retenergie.it - coop di produttori e utilizzatori di energia da fonti rinnovabili tad evaarthamaatra-nirbhaasaM svaruupa-shuunyam iva samaadhiH Sanskrit - Realize it's the common language ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Hi :) There are a few websites. An important one is the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org I'm still hoping someone else can help you register with the LibreOffice and DocumentFoundation ones though. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Surat Lozowick To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 18:03:08 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team Is all the text on the site also produced by the documentation team, or another team? I would be interested in helping with that. If anyone could help me get access, let me know! -Surat On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > I don't know how to help with registration and login. Hopefully someone > will > help you get setup soon. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 16:27:04 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > Thanks for the welcome! I think I'll start with reviewing and proof > reading, > and perhaps expand later, depending on time and how it goes. > > -Surat > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Tom Davies >wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > > Welcome in. Resumes and examples are not necessary. Just register and > > start > > working your magic. > > > > > > There are probably some guidelines to help with all this alfresco > newness. > > Alfresco is a fairly new system to us but it is rapidly getting much > better > > as > > people get used to it and report problems to the list so that they get > > fixed. > > > > There are probably more guidelines to try to help us try to stay > > reasonably > > consistent although i think we should avoid being excessive about that > > otherwise > > it will take too long to get our first finished result out there. > > > > > > I think our main focus should be on making sure we don't accidentally say > > OpenOffice where we should say LibreOffice. Apart from that i think we > can > > forgive each other a lot. > > > > Reviewing is probably an excellent idea because then you can just jump > > straight > > in without worrying about the guidelines too much and perhaps just build > up > > from there. > > > > Good luck and welcome in from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 19:25:45 > > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > > > Hello LibreOffice documentation team! > > > > I'm interested in contributing to LibreOffice, and since I don't know how > > to > > code and I do know how to write, the documentation team seemed like a > good > > fit. Of the areas listed on libreoffice.org, the two that most interest > me > > (and I could do best) are "Authoring" and "Proofreading, reviewing and > > editing." I worked as an assistant editor for the newspaper at my > college, > > so I have experience writing, editing, and proofreading (I also took > > classes > > in journalism). I use Writer and Impess with some regularity, although > I'm > > no LibreOffice expert. I would be happy to send along some of my writing > or > > even a resume, if that would be useful. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Surat Lozowick > > > > Student, Writer, Creator > > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > -- > -Surat Lozowick > > Student, Writer, Creator > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- -Surat Lozowick Student, Writer, Creator Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 -- Unsubscribe in
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Is all the text on the site also produced by the documentation team, or another team? I would be interested in helping with that. If anyone could help me get access, let me know! -Surat On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > I don't know how to help with registration and login. Hopefully someone > will > help you get setup soon. > > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 16:27:04 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > Thanks for the welcome! I think I'll start with reviewing and proof > reading, > and perhaps expand later, depending on time and how it goes. > > -Surat > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Tom Davies >wrote: > > > Hi :) > > > > Welcome in. Resumes and examples are not necessary. Just register and > > start > > working your magic. > > > > > > There are probably some guidelines to help with all this alfresco > newness. > > Alfresco is a fairly new system to us but it is rapidly getting much > better > > as > > people get used to it and report problems to the list so that they get > > fixed. > > > > There are probably more guidelines to try to help us try to stay > > reasonably > > consistent although i think we should avoid being excessive about that > > otherwise > > it will take too long to get our first finished result out there. > > > > > > I think our main focus should be on making sure we don't accidentally say > > OpenOffice where we should say LibreOffice. Apart from that i think we > can > > forgive each other a lot. > > > > Reviewing is probably an excellent idea because then you can just jump > > straight > > in without worrying about the guidelines too much and perhaps just build > up > > from there. > > > > Good luck and welcome in from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 19:25:45 > > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > > > Hello LibreOffice documentation team! > > > > I'm interested in contributing to LibreOffice, and since I don't know how > > to > > code and I do know how to write, the documentation team seemed like a > good > > fit. Of the areas listed on libreoffice.org, the two that most interest > me > > (and I could do best) are "Authoring" and "Proofreading, reviewing and > > editing." I worked as an assistant editor for the newspaper at my > college, > > so I have experience writing, editing, and proofreading (I also took > > classes > > in journalism). I use Writer and Impess with some regularity, although > I'm > > no LibreOffice expert. I would be happy to send along some of my writing > or > > even a resume, if that would be useful. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Surat Lozowick > > > > Student, Writer, Creator > > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > > -- > -Surat Lozowick > > Student, Writer, Creator > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- -Surat Lozowick Student, Writer, Creator Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Hi :) I don't know how to help with registration and login. Hopefully someone will help you get setup soon. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Surat Lozowick To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 16:27:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team Thanks for the welcome! I think I'll start with reviewing and proof reading, and perhaps expand later, depending on time and how it goes. -Surat On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > Welcome in. Resumes and examples are not necessary. Just register and > start > working your magic. > > > There are probably some guidelines to help with all this alfresco newness. > Alfresco is a fairly new system to us but it is rapidly getting much better > as > people get used to it and report problems to the list so that they get > fixed. > > There are probably more guidelines to try to help us try to stay > reasonably > consistent although i think we should avoid being excessive about that > otherwise > it will take too long to get our first finished result out there. > > > I think our main focus should be on making sure we don't accidentally say > OpenOffice where we should say LibreOffice. Apart from that i think we can > forgive each other a lot. > > Reviewing is probably an excellent idea because then you can just jump > straight > in without worrying about the guidelines too much and perhaps just build up > from there. > > Good luck and welcome in from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 19:25:45 > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > Hello LibreOffice documentation team! > > I'm interested in contributing to LibreOffice, and since I don't know how > to > code and I do know how to write, the documentation team seemed like a good > fit. Of the areas listed on libreoffice.org, the two that most interest me > (and I could do best) are "Authoring" and "Proofreading, reviewing and > editing." I worked as an assistant editor for the newspaper at my college, > so I have experience writing, editing, and proofreading (I also took > classes > in journalism). I use Writer and Impess with some regularity, although I'm > no LibreOffice expert. I would be happy to send along some of my writing or > even a resume, if that would be useful. > > Thanks, > > Surat Lozowick > > Student, Writer, Creator > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- -Surat Lozowick Student, Writer, Creator Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:42:55 +0100 Clayton Walker wrote: > How does one volunteer to be a proof reader? I'd like to help, because > the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is kicking my a**. I'd say > my English is pretty swell, I don't (usually) make mistakes, and I > certainly don't use Google Translate on the front of a webpage, if > you know what I'm saying. > To which site might you be referring, I wonder. There are several sites listed on http://www.libreoffice.org/international-sites/. I'm not certain as to the usage of a translate tool on any of them. At any rate, the l10n list (l10n+subscr...@libreoffice.org) would be more appropriate to address your concerns, and offer your services, regarding translation. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team
Thanks for the welcome! I think I'll start with reviewing and proof reading, and perhaps expand later, depending on time and how it goes. -Surat On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > > Welcome in. Resumes and examples are not necessary. Just register and > start > working your magic. > > > There are probably some guidelines to help with all this alfresco newness. > Alfresco is a fairly new system to us but it is rapidly getting much better > as > people get used to it and report problems to the list so that they get > fixed. > > There are probably more guidelines to try to help us try to stay > reasonably > consistent although i think we should avoid being excessive about that > otherwise > it will take too long to get our first finished result out there. > > > I think our main focus should be on making sure we don't accidentally say > OpenOffice where we should say LibreOffice. Apart from that i think we can > forgive each other a lot. > > Reviewing is probably an excellent idea because then you can just jump > straight > in without worrying about the guidelines too much and perhaps just build up > from there. > > Good luck and welcome in from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: Surat Lozowick > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Fri, 28 January, 2011 19:25:45 > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Joining the documentation team > > Hello LibreOffice documentation team! > > I'm interested in contributing to LibreOffice, and since I don't know how > to > code and I do know how to write, the documentation team seemed like a good > fit. Of the areas listed on libreoffice.org, the two that most interest me > (and I could do best) are "Authoring" and "Proofreading, reviewing and > editing." I worked as an assistant editor for the newspaper at my college, > so I have experience writing, editing, and proofreading (I also took > classes > in journalism). I use Writer and Impess with some regularity, although I'm > no LibreOffice expert. I would be happy to send along some of my writing or > even a resume, if that would be useful. > > Thanks, > > Surat Lozowick > > Student, Writer, Creator > Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) > Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ > Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- -Surat Lozowick Student, Writer, Creator Phone: 0489535454 (Belgium), 928-227-0474 (US), suratlozowick (Skype) Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/suratlozowick/ Blog: http://suratl.tumblr.com/ Shared Items: http://goo.gl/Q8n6 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Volunteer to Proofread (Starting with the website.)
How does one volunteer to be a proof reader? I'd like to help, because the grammar on the libreoffice.org site is kicking my a**. I'd say my English is pretty swell, I don't (usually) make mistakes, and I certainly don't use Google Translate on the front of a webpage, if you know what I'm saying. -- Welcome to my signature! Please note that this signature is licensed under the General Public License. By embedding the signature, or parts of it, into your brain other than by mere aggregation, your brain becomes a combined, and therefore derived, work and thus must be licensed under the GPL too. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] ?edits and "Save"
Lol, THHGTTG quote was very much appreciated. I didn't notice the (lack of)
full stop! Did you see Hal's reply about using ? Neat.
I receive a huge amount of emails about "CMS Workflow" should i delete or
ignore
these? Can we stop them being sent out? I used "Save" a couple of times but
only published once. Publishing made things a lot clearer.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: David Nelson
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 13:49:35
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] ?edits and "Save"
Hi Tom, :-)
In the notification messages from the CMS:
- one link sends you to the admin interface where you work on the
pages. There, it's natural that you will see your edit, since you
saved it;
- the other link sends you to the front end of the site, so you see
the page as Web visitors will see it.
But there's one thing I don't understand: notifications are usually
only sent when you publish the page. So if you only saved, you
should't get a notification mail. Should I understand you were
clicking in a link in a previous notification mail sent regarding a
different edit?
If you only save, you won't see any thing front-side on the site,
because you didn't yet *publish*. It's only when you publish that you
will see the effect of your change in the published pages.
In any case, for everyone with questions regarding the working of the
CMS, it's a good idea to sign up to the website mailing list, because
there are other people there who can often answer your questions
better and more quickly than the people on this list.
HTH.
> I've done something wrong but don't see what! Sorry. I guess i should have
>had
> a cuppa tea before getting down to this
P.S. Please refer to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy concerning
the benefits of a really *hot*, *fresh* cup of tea.
P.P.S. You forgot the final closing period ("full stop") in your above
statement. It's as bad as unclosed tags. Arrrgh! The nails scratching
down the walls! ... :-D
David Nelson
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] ?edits and "Save"
Hi Tom, :-)
In the notification messages from the CMS:
- one link sends you to the admin interface where you work on the
pages. There, it's natural that you will see your edit, since you
saved it;
- the other link sends you to the front end of the site, so you see
the page as Web visitors will see it.
But there's one thing I don't understand: notifications are usually
only sent when you publish the page. So if you only saved, you
should't get a notification mail. Should I understand you were
clicking in a link in a previous notification mail sent regarding a
different edit?
If you only save, you won't see any thing front-side on the site,
because you didn't yet *publish*. It's only when you publish that you
will see the effect of your change in the published pages.
In any case, for everyone with questions regarding the working of the
CMS, it's a good idea to sign up to the website mailing list, because
there are other people there who can often answer your questions
better and more quickly than the people on this list.
HTH.
> I've done something wrong but don't see what! Sorry. I guess i should have
> had
> a cuppa tea before getting down to this
P.S. Please refer to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy concerning
the benefits of a really *hot*, *fresh* cup of tea.
P.P.S. You forgot the final closing period ("full stop") in your above
statement. It's as bad as unclosed tags. Arrrgh! The nails scratching
down the walls! ... :-D
David Nelson
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 19:10 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 16:38 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > > Hi Jean, :-) > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:18, Jean Hollis Weber > > wrote: > > > Shall I start uploading the OOo files to the Drafts folders for Draw, > > > Calc, Math, for people to work on rebranding when they have a chance? > > > > Yes, please, that would be great. > > > > David Nelson > > > > I'll start on that later tonight or tomorrow... Calc Guide is now on Alfresco, in the Calc Drafts space. Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
We are not using Alfresco to work on web pages. It can do that, but we're not using it that way. We are using Alfresco to store .odt files and track our work on them. To edit one, you check it out, download it, edit it in LibreOffice offline, then upload it and check it in again. Jeremy has written a very helpful "bootcamp" document about the details. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Ahhh, that does explain things. > > Yes, the emails link's take me to SilverStripe. "Hundreds" was an > exaggeration. It has been enough to be annoying but nothing like that > many! > > So, with Alfresco you get to see proper document-mark-up of some kind so > you can > edit links and stuff presumably. I was just about to ask about how to do > that. > What mark-up language is used? Do you use gedit? If so which setting do > you > choose; plain-text, html or docbook or something else? > > Many thanks for helping me there! It's a relief! > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > > From: Hal Parker > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:34:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco > > That explains why some of our recent exchanges have seemed to me to be a > bit > "in different universes". > > Doesn't sound like you've been bad. David asked for help with the website, > and you're helping. Silverstripe is what you/we use for editing the > website. > > Alfresco is where the user docs (and a few other things) are produced. > > BTW, the CMS messages are coming from Silverstripe, and not Alfresco. And > you are probably getting emails from the website list as well as this > (documentation) list, and possibly others that you've subscribed to... > hence > the "hundreds of emails" you referred to earlier. > > Hal > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Oh no! You're kidding! Yes i have been using SilverStripe :( > > > > I just tried to publish the localisation page as it looked ready. > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live > > Ahh, great. Now i can see my correction :) The page does look > done&dusted > > to > > me. > > > > Have i been bad? > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
Ahhh, that does explain things. Yes, the emails link's take me to SilverStripe. "Hundreds" was an exaggeration. It has been enough to be annoying but nothing like that many! So, with Alfresco you get to see proper document-mark-up of some kind so you can edit links and stuff presumably. I was just about to ask about how to do that. What mark-up language is used? Do you use gedit? If so which setting do you choose; plain-text, html or docbook or something else? Many thanks for helping me there! It's a relief! Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:34:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco That explains why some of our recent exchanges have seemed to me to be a bit "in different universes". Doesn't sound like you've been bad. David asked for help with the website, and you're helping. Silverstripe is what you/we use for editing the website. Alfresco is where the user docs (and a few other things) are produced. BTW, the CMS messages are coming from Silverstripe, and not Alfresco. And you are probably getting emails from the website list as well as this (documentation) list, and possibly others that you've subscribed to... hence the "hundreds of emails" you referred to earlier. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Oh no! You're kidding! Yes i have been using SilverStripe :( > > I just tried to publish the localisation page as it looked ready. > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live > Ahh, great. Now i can see my correction :) The page does look done&dusted > to > me. > > Have i been bad? > Regards from > Tom :) > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
That explains why some of our recent exchanges have seemed to me to be a bit "in different universes". Doesn't sound like you've been bad. David asked for help with the website, and you're helping. Silverstripe is what you/we use for editing the website. Alfresco is where the user docs (and a few other things) are produced. BTW, the CMS messages are coming from Silverstripe, and not Alfresco. And you are probably getting emails from the website list as well as this (documentation) list, and possibly others that you've subscribed to... hence the "hundreds of emails" you referred to earlier. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Oh no! You're kidding! Yes i have been using SilverStripe :( > > I just tried to publish the localisation page as it looked ready. > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live > Ahh, great. Now i can see my correction :) The page does look done&dusted > to > me. > > Have i been bad? > Regards from > Tom :) > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
Oh no! You're kidding! Yes i have been using SilverStripe :( I just tried to publish the localisation page as it looked ready. https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/?stage=live Ahh, great. Now i can see my correction :) The page does look done&dusted to me. Have i been bad? Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:19:51 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco But, but... we don't edit within Alfresco online; we download the ODT files and edit there. Sounds to me like you're talking about Silverstripe, the website editor, where we DO edit online. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Alfresco keeps me logged in so i can edit without having to do the login > process > ?? > > Weird but nice :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Hal Parker > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:08:54 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco > > Are you talking about the *website* or about Alfresco? > > I haven't used the website enough to know if it will allow me to stay > logged > in, but Alfresco (and the wiki) keep kicking me off. > > Hal > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Hal, > > > > I stayed logged in to 1 page overnight! I fell asleep before making > > changes and > > it would have let me edit about 10hours later! I closed it and clicked > on > > the > > email link and it didn't ask me to re-login again! > > > > My web-browser is SeaMonkey which uses the same engine as Firefox (gecko) > > but i > > don't generally save passwords. I had not changed any setting in my > > profile at > > Alfresco so everything is just on defaults i think. > > > > I like it this way. Very easy and convenient for me! > > Good luck in getting this sorted sometime! Perhaps try a different > > web-browser?? > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
But, but... we don't edit within Alfresco online; we download the ODT files and edit there. Sounds to me like you're talking about Silverstripe, the website editor, where we DO edit online. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Alfresco keeps me logged in so i can edit without having to do the login > process > ?? > > Weird but nice :) > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Hal Parker > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:08:54 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco > > Are you talking about the *website* or about Alfresco? > > I haven't used the website enough to know if it will allow me to stay > logged > in, but Alfresco (and the wiki) keep kicking me off. > > Hal > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Hal, > > > > I stayed logged in to 1 page overnight! I fell asleep before making > > changes and > > it would have let me edit about 10hours later! I closed it and clicked > on > > the > > email link and it didn't ask me to re-login again! > > > > My web-browser is SeaMonkey which uses the same engine as Firefox (gecko) > > but i > > don't generally save passwords. I had not changed any setting in my > > profile at > > Alfresco so everything is just on defaults i think. > > > > I like it this way. Very easy and convenient for me! > > Good luck in getting this sorted sometime! Perhaps try a different > > web-browser?? > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
Alfresco keeps me logged in so i can edit without having to do the login process ?? Weird but nice :) Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 11:08:54 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco Are you talking about the *website* or about Alfresco? I haven't used the website enough to know if it will allow me to stay logged in, but Alfresco (and the wiki) keep kicking me off. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hal, > > I stayed logged in to 1 page overnight! I fell asleep before making > changes and > it would have let me edit about 10hours later! I closed it and clicked on > the > email link and it didn't ask me to re-login again! > > My web-browser is SeaMonkey which uses the same engine as Firefox (gecko) > but i > don't generally save passwords. I had not changed any setting in my > profile at > Alfresco so everything is just on defaults i think. > > I like it this way. Very easy and convenient for me! > Good luck in getting this sorted sometime! Perhaps try a different > web-browser?? > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Does this list create hundreds? I hadn't noticed that many, though today has been a bit more active than most days. (I don't subscribe to any of the other lists because of the numbers of emails.) Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Perhaps it should be an option? Tick to subscribe or something (or untick > to > unsubscribe might be better)? > > Having hundreds of emails to wade through every day is getting really > tiresome > and might lose us contributors. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Jean Hollis Weber > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 10:45:13 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco > > On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 10:39 +, Tom Davies wrote: > > I think a place we can look-up status would be very much more useful and > MUCH > > less annoying than the email blizzard. > > > > It was a good idea to check it out and see how it went and seemed like a > great > > > idea at the time. > > Having both emails and a status page on the wiki is IMO best. > > I am often limited to using my phone for Internet access. Email works, > but accessing a wiki (or most websites) is just too painful to > contemplate except when absolutely necessary. > > When I get an iPad, my views might change... ;-) > > --Jean > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
Are you talking about the *website* or about Alfresco? I haven't used the website enough to know if it will allow me to stay logged in, but Alfresco (and the wiki) keep kicking me off. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hal, > > I stayed logged in to 1 page overnight! I fell asleep before making > changes and > it would have let me edit about 10hours later! I closed it and clicked on > the > email link and it didn't ask me to re-login again! > > My web-browser is SeaMonkey which uses the same engine as Firefox (gecko) > but i > don't generally save passwords. I had not changed any setting in my > profile at > Alfresco so everything is just on defaults i think. > > I like it this way. Very easy and convenient for me! > Good luck in getting this sorted sometime! Perhaps try a different > web-browser?? > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] ?edits and "Save"
Aaargh. I did a minor edit and used "Save" but when i click on the link in the email to view the page i can't see the edit. If i then use the email's link to edit the document the edit is clearly there done. I've done something wrong but don't see what! Sorry. I guess i should have had a cuppa tea before getting down to this Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Perhaps it should be an option? Tick to subscribe or something (or untick to unsubscribe might be better)? Having hundreds of emails to wade through every day is getting really tiresome and might lose us contributors. Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Hollis Weber To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 10:45:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 10:39 +, Tom Davies wrote: > I think a place we can look-up status would be very much more useful and MUCH > less annoying than the email blizzard. > > It was a good idea to check it out and see how it went and seemed like a > great > idea at the time. Having both emails and a status page on the wiki is IMO best. I am often limited to using my phone for Internet access. Email works, but accessing a wiki (or most websites) is just too painful to contemplate except when absolutely necessary. When I get an iPad, my views might change... ;-) --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] login for Alfresco
Hal, I stayed logged in to 1 page overnight! I fell asleep before making changes and it would have let me edit about 10hours later! I closed it and clicked on the email link and it didn't ask me to re-login again! My web-browser is SeaMonkey which uses the same engine as Firefox (gecko) but i don't generally save passwords. I had not changed any setting in my profile at Alfresco so everything is just on defaults i think. I like it this way. Very easy and convenient for me! Good luck in getting this sorted sometime! Perhaps try a different web-browser?? Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 10:39 +, Tom Davies wrote: > I think a place we can look-up status would be very much more useful and MUCH > less annoying than the email blizzard. > > It was a good idea to check it out and see how it went and seemed like a > great > idea at the time. Having both emails and a status page on the wiki is IMO best. I am often limited to using my phone for Internet access. Email works, but accessing a wiki (or most websites) is just too painful to contemplate except when absolutely necessary. When I get an iPad, my views might change... ;-) --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:37 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hi Jean, > > Am Samstag, 29. Januar 2011, 11:24:36 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > > On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:12 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > > > languages, they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in > > > ODF-Fileformat. > > > > *Published* documents are going on the wiki. Alfresco is only for > > working on the docs. > > OK. But we need status messages about the documents, so that every member of > this > list is aware about upcomming / finished work. I explained in my last why > this > messages are necessary (you are working on the authors-list very successful > this way > ;-) Yes, I agree. I see Hal has just said something too. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
I think a place we can look-up status would be very much more useful and MUCH less annoying than the email blizzard. It was a good idea to check it out and see how it went and seemed like a great idea at the time. Regards from Tom :) From: Andreas Mantke To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 10:37:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco Hi Jean, Am Samstag, 29. Januar 2011, 11:24:36 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:12 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > > languages, they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in > > ODF-Fileformat. > > *Published* documents are going on the wiki. Alfresco is only for > working on the docs. OK. But we need status messages about the documents, so that every member of this list is aware about upcomming / finished work. I explained in my last why this messages are necessary (you are working on the authors-list very successful this way ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
You are fast. It's great :) Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 10:18:08 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role Well, I've done that particular topic now, and I'll be uploading the chapter soon and moving on to another one. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > It is your choice. I was only trying to give you an option. The best way > to > handle it is do as you want ;) > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Hal Parker > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:20:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > Things like that, of substance, seem to me worth doing now, unlike some of > the cosmetic stuff. > > But if others think I should skip it for now, that's okay with me. David, > what do you think? > > Hal > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Can you make a "to do" note and skip the write up until next time? > > > > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > -- > > *From:* Hal Parker > > *To:* documentation@libreoffice.org > > *Sent:* Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:51:27 > > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > > > I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, > > but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > > Title > > Page, and I want to write it up. > > > > Hal > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Hi Jean, Am Samstag, 29. Januar 2011, 11:24:36 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: > On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:12 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > > languages, they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in > > ODF-Fileformat. > > *Published* documents are going on the wiki. Alfresco is only for > working on the docs. OK. But we need status messages about the documents, so that every member of this list is aware about upcomming / finished work. I explained in my last why this messages are necessary (you are working on the authors-list very successful this way ;-) Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > languages, > they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in > ODF-Fileformat. As Jean just posted, published docs are going on the wiki. > It is > also necessary that the current status of every document is written on this > list. > This is necessary from two reasons: > -- new volunteers / other members are only able to jump in, if they know > about the > upcomming work, > -- translation teams / other parts of our community are not aware of new > documents or > prospective new documents (they had to look for volunteers to do the work > asap). > > I agree we should be mentioning on the list which docs we are working on and at what stage. I also think it would be good to restore to the wiki the table of chapters with who is working on what, at what stage. The links don't need to be there, but for quickly looking up the status of things, it's handy. Or at least it is if people continue to fill in the table as we were doing before. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 11:12 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > languages, > they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in ODF-Fileformat. *Published* documents are going on the wiki. Alfresco is only for working on the docs. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] LO in freeBSD?
Hi :) Have we had any feedback from the developer's list about running LibreOffice in BSD? This is the 2nd enquiry about it and i sent the 1st one to the developer's list. The 1st person was using a different BSD distro and got about 12 very geeky but possibly fixable error messages after compiling LO from source code. The 2nd to last error said "no icecream" which amused me. Anyway, i would guess that porting the source to BSD might well be quite easy but i have no idea if our devs had time to look at this in all the hecticness just before LO's release. Regards from Tom :) - Forwarded Message From: Ramsés Santamaría Domínguez To: us...@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 6:57:07 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice in freeBSD? Will there someday LibreOffice for Freebsd? I use PC-BSD and not as LibreOffice installed on this operating system, any suggestions? or you can install Linux files? Thanks -- Designer Graphic -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
And I still totally HATE HATE HATE the way Alfresco keeps logging me off. Grrr, snarl. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Hal Parker wrote: > Well, I've done that particular topic now, and I'll be uploading the > chapter soon and moving on to another one. > > Hal > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > >> It is your choice. I was only trying to give you an option. The best way >> to >> handle it is do as you want ;) >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Hal Parker >> To: documentation@libreoffice.org >> Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:20:59 >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role >> >> Things like that, of substance, seem to me worth doing now, unlike some of >> the cosmetic stuff. >> >> But if others think I should skip it for now, that's okay with me. David, >> what do you think? >> >> Hal >> >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tom Davies >> wrote: >> >> > Can you make a "to do" note and skip the write up until next time? >> > >> > >> >> > Regards from >> > Tom :) >> > >> > -- >> > *From:* Hal Parker >> > *To:* documentation@libreoffice.org >> > *Sent:* Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:51:27 >> > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our >> role >> > >> > I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by >> now, >> > but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > >> Title >> > Page, and I want to write it up. >> > >> > Hal >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> documentation+h...@libreoffice.org >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ >> *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** >> >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >> documentation+h...@libreoffice.org >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ >> *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** >> > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Online help online?
On Saturday 29 January 2011 11:12, Hal Parker wrote: > > http://help.libreoffice.org/ > > > > Nino > > Thanks, Nino! I knew it would be something embarrassingly obvious. > ;-) I didn't know it either but just have read it in another forum a minute before reading your mail :) Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
Well, I've done that particular topic now, and I'll be uploading the chapter soon and moving on to another one. Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > It is your choice. I was only trying to give you an option. The best way > to > handle it is do as you want ;) > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > From: Hal Parker > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:20:59 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > Things like that, of substance, seem to me worth doing now, unlike some of > the cosmetic stuff. > > But if others think I should skip it for now, that's okay with me. David, > what do you think? > > Hal > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tom Davies > wrote: > > > Can you make a "to do" note and skip the write up until next time? > > > > > > > Regards from > > Tom :) > > > > -- > > *From:* Hal Parker > > *To:* documentation@libreoffice.org > > *Sent:* Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:51:27 > > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > > > I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, > > but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > > Title > > Page, and I want to write it up. > > > > Hal > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Hi Tom, *, > > there is a world outside Alfresco inside our OpenSource-Project! > > Am Samstag, 29. Januar 2011, 10:28:31 schrieb Tom Davies: > > Hi :) > > > > I think David and all have got Alfresco organised very well already and > are > > quite quick to respond if things need doing. > > > > At this point i think we need to move over to alfresco en-masse to see if > > anyone has any minor glitches with it as they work. I think that is the > > fastest way to completing our first published result too. > > > > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other > languages, > they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in > ODF-Fileformat. It is > also necessary that the current status of every document is written on this > list. > This is necessary from two reasons: > -- new volunteers / other members are only able to jump in, if they know > about the > upcomming work, > -- translation teams / other parts of our community are not aware of new > documents or > prospective new documents (they had to look for volunteers to do the work > asap). > > > Plenty of people have been beta-testing our implementation of Alfresco > and > > it's ready for general use. Hanging back would create problems now imo. > > Heck, even i have used it successfully! > > The Alfresco site is only one choice to do the documentation work. There > are other > ways and our members are free to choose the way that fits best for them (or > their > group). > > I think each group (language team, or at least a group working on a particular book) needs to choose where to coordinate that work. The English team, or its leaders anyway, appear to have chosen to use Alfresco. If some members of the team work elsewhere, then we run a great risk of duplication and confusion. Of course, that does not need to affect any other language team's decision. Nor, in my opinion, does it mean that people working on a new book, or some other documentation project within LibreOffice, need to use Alfresco. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Online help online?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Nino Novak wrote: > On Saturday 29 January 2011 10:30, Hal Parker wrote: > > I'm sure I read recently that the online help is available online > > (wiki, perhaps?) but I've lost track of where it is. > > > > Can someone remind me where to find it, please? Thanks. > > http://help.libreoffice.org/ > > Nino > > Thanks, Nino! I knew it would be something embarrassingly obvious. ;-) Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Hi Tom, *, there is a world outside Alfresco inside our OpenSource-Project! Am Samstag, 29. Januar 2011, 10:28:31 schrieb Tom Davies: > Hi :) > > I think David and all have got Alfresco organised very well already and are > quite quick to respond if things need doing. > > At this point i think we need to move over to alfresco en-masse to see if > anyone has any minor glitches with it as they work. I think that is the > fastest way to completing our first published result too. > If the adapted documents from ODFAuthors should be translated into other languages, they had to be published outside Alfresco (wiki, website) in ODF-Fileformat. It is also necessary that the current status of every document is written on this list. This is necessary from two reasons: -- new volunteers / other members are only able to jump in, if they know about the upcomming work, -- translation teams / other parts of our community are not aware of new documents or prospective new documents (they had to look for volunteers to do the work asap). > Plenty of people have been beta-testing our implementation of Alfresco and > it's ready for general use. Hanging back would create problems now imo. > Heck, even i have used it successfully! The Alfresco site is only one choice to do the documentation work. There are other ways and our members are free to choose the way that fits best for them (or their group). Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
Hi Jean, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 17:10, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > I'll start on that later tonight or tomorrow, in between preparing for > the cyclone that's forecast to arrive around 04:00 or so on Monday. Well, take care and good luck with it. We've been on the edge of one here, too, for a few days, judging by the constant rain. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Online help online?
On Saturday 29 January 2011 10:30, Hal Parker wrote: > I'm sure I read recently that the online help is available online > (wiki, perhaps?) but I've lost track of where it is. > > Can someone remind me where to find it, please? Thanks. http://help.libreoffice.org/ Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
Hi Hal, Tom, :-) > I am not paying much attention to terminological consistency, as I think > that's a "nice to have" that can wait until the next release of the book and > I'm not great at that level of detail anyway. I am trying to do all the > rebranding things, but no doubt I'll miss something that someone will pick > up on the next pass. I think you're right about the terminology consistency. The most important thing is that instructions should be *understandable* for the audiences we target. In my own professional work, when I know I'm addressing people with a certain level of understanding of a subject, I sometimes use different terms for the same thing to arrive at a nice, natural writing style - you don't want to sound too wooden. Provided that it doesn't create a source of confusion for your readership, I think it's OK. My 2 cents. Anyway, we give it our best shot, and then the proofreader can always make adjustments. ;-) I'll be there to help out just as soon as I've sent my current job back to the client (deadline on Monday). ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
Ouch, so you and Egypt will be offline at the same time. Good luck and take care! Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Hollis Weber To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:10:49 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 16:38 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Jean, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:18, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > Shall I start uploading the OOo files to the Drafts folders for Draw, > > Calc, Math, for people to work on rebranding when they have a chance? > > Yes, please, that would be great. > > David Nelson > I'll start on that later tonight or tomorrow, in between preparing for the cyclone that's forecast to arrive around 04:00 or so on Monday. I may (probably will) be off the air, except possibly for the phone, for some time on Monday or even longer; downed power lines are quite common here in big winds and the UPS holding up our router will do so only for a few hours. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
It is your choice. I was only trying to give you an option. The best way to handle it is do as you want ;) Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:20:59 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role Things like that, of substance, seem to me worth doing now, unlike some of the cosmetic stuff. But if others think I should skip it for now, that's okay with me. David, what do you think? Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Can you make a "to do" note and skip the write up until next time? > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > -- > *From:* Hal Parker > *To:* documentation@libreoffice.org > *Sent:* Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:51:27 > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, > but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > Title > Page, and I want to write it up. > > Hal > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Online help online?
I'm sure I read recently that the online help is available online (wiki, perhaps?) but I've lost track of where it is. Can someone remind me where to find it, please? Thanks. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [ ] vs <>
Lol, at last someone gets the joke :)) Agreed :) Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 1:40:07 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [ ] vs <> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Aaargh, i think the correct term is [chuckle] using <> means keep doing > whatever > until a relevant ends it. > I should have said . Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco
Hi :) I think David and all have got Alfresco organised very well already and are quite quick to respond if things need doing. At this point i think we need to move over to alfresco en-masse to see if anyone has any minor glitches with it as they work. I think that is the fastest way to completing our first published result too. Plenty of people have been beta-testing our implementation of Alfresco and it's ready for general use. Hanging back would create problems now imo. Heck, even i have used it successfully! Regards from Tom :) From: Ron Faile To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 2:06:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki On 1/27/2011 11:49 PM, Hal Parker wrote: > I was under the impression (which could well be wrong) that the working > files for Writer are now the ones in Alfresco, and the Alfresco files are > not being copied to the wiki (at least not until publication). > > If the Writer Guide files on the wiki are indeed not being updated from the > Alfresco files, it seems to me that we should remove the list of them (or at > least the links to the files themselves) from the wiki. Or just hide them, > or do something to discourage distressed readers from sending us corrections > to things we've already dealt with. > > I notice that the Documentation/Development page has been amended to refer > to work being done on Alfresco. > > Hal > Hi Hal, all I disagree. I think the Getting Started guide chapters are well enough along to be considered almost final for a first release. They just need to be reviewed by someone before being considered final for 3.3. If we remove the Writer Guide files, what are the users going to read if they need some documentation? Especially since 3.3 was just released and many people will be visiting the site. They need to be able to download something, even if it's not finished. The wiki is a working space as well, in every area of the project. I also thought that the documentation development page for working files should not have been deleted so quickly. Alfresco is only in it's infantcy as far as implementation goes. It would have been nice to have kept it until things are more ironed out. Just my opinion though. Ron -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
Things like that, of substance, seem to me worth doing now, unlike some of the cosmetic stuff. But if others think I should skip it for now, that's okay with me. David, what do you think? Hal On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > Can you make a "to do" note and skip the write up until next time? > > > Regards from > Tom :) > > -- > *From:* Hal Parker > *To:* documentation@libreoffice.org > *Sent:* Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:51:27 > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role > > I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, > but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > Title > Page, and I want to write it up. > > Hal > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 16:38 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Jean, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:18, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > Shall I start uploading the OOo files to the Drafts folders for Draw, > > Calc, Math, for people to work on rebranding when they have a chance? > > Yes, please, that would be great. > > David Nelson > I'll start on that later tonight or tomorrow, in between preparing for the cyclone that's forecast to arrive around 04:00 or so on Monday. I may (probably will) be off the air, except possibly for the phone, for some time on Monday or even longer; downed power lines are quite common here in big winds and the UPS holding up our router will do so only for a few hours. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Aaargh, sorry! I have sent a mail to the list already. I have only just woken up! After stuff gets published it automatically gets copied back to the editing section so that people can immediately edit a 2nd edition of that page? If so then i think we should just publish fast and not worry about errors too much. I am getting bogged down in detail just to get used to working with Alfresco but i hope to fly through fast when i am ready. Apols and regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:46:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS? Hi Tom, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:27, Tom Davies wrote: > Can we stop the website sending out these mails? Not really, given that people have the ability to publish to the Web without any peer review beforehand, these mails provide the only safety barrier we have against problems. But filters are easy to implement in most decent mail clients. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Hal, :-) > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:38, Hal Parker wrote: > > The one thing I am definitely NOT doing is changing the borders and the > row > > colours in tables of data. Now that the OOo books have their tables in > > black, white, and gray, I can't see the need for taking the time to > change > > them to a slightly different pattern of black, white, and gray. > > IMHO, you're absolutely right. Surely it's not an important branding > issue. I don't think we have to get pedantic about things, especially > when it involves a lot of work of secondary priority. > > This coming week, I'll start helping you out, and will post at that > time to liaise with you about where I should jump in. > Actually there are a bunch of time-consuming changes to be made, which I don't think are worth the effort at this point, but since they've been done in at least half the Writer Guide chapters (as well as all of the Getting Started guide), I can't really see avoiding doing them. And perhaps there are ways to automate (or semi-automate) more of the changes, using macros or table autoformats or something, which I haven't spent time figuring out. We could discuss whether to spend the time on those items when working on the first version of the other books, but OTOH debating stuff takes time that could be spent getting real work done. Note: I don't have any objection to the changes as such, just the timing of them. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Publish or Save, don't "Request Publication"
Hi :) To get this first issue completed faster and to avoid sending out these thousands of emails please can people avoid using "Request Publication"? If you think the document might be ready enough then just go straight to "Save and Publish". If you are not confident or feel slightly too unsure, or if you don't have publishing rights yet then just use "Save" but let this list know the page is nearly ready. "Save" seems a good way of doing small or partial updates and getting them up on the site for other editors/reviewers to see. Hopefully David and Hal and people agree to this temporary work-around to get our first release up there fast Good luck and regards to all cheekily from Tom :) From: Jeremy Cartwright To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:42:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS? > From: Stefan Weigel > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Am 29.01.2011 00:23, schrieb Hal Parker: > > Now that I have access to the website, I'm getting messages > > whenever someone changes any page. How can I stop these emails? > > You could create a filter rule with your mail provider or in your > mail client. > > Stefan > I've set a rule to filter all messages with `CMS Workflow: LibreOffice` in the subject and its working just fine. Seemed the simplest way to avoid the hassle. Still cooking up some content for the site, David. Sometimes it's a saute pan, sometimes it's a crock-pot. :D. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Hi Hal, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:45, Hal Parker wrote: > Okay, I'll do the filter. No problem. Some systems have a tickbox for > individual users to choose whether to be notified, so it was worth checking. > Not that I can find any users' prefs for the website. I'm afraid all you currently have is: https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/edit David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
I'm working on Chapter 4, Formatting Pages. I thought I'd be done by now, but I've found what I think is a feature that's not in OOo: Format > Title Page, and I want to write it up. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Hi, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:42, Jeremy Cartwright wrote: > Still cooking up some content for the site, David. Sometimes it's a > saute pan, sometimes it's a crock-pot. :D. Cool, Jeremy, thank you for that. ;-) It's good to have people from docs working on the site. I'm certain the quality of the content will benefit *a lot*. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Hi Tom, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 16:27, Tom Davies wrote: > Can we stop the website sending out these mails? Not really, given that people have the ability to publish to the Web without any peer review beforehand, these mails provide the only safety barrier we have against problems. But filters are easy to implement in most decent mail clients. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:20 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > I am not aware of any way to change this. You'd have to go on the > website list and pester Christian Lohmaier about it. > > My only solution is to set a filter of some kind in your mail client. > > HTH, but I imagine it doesn't much... > > Okay, I'll do the filter. No problem. Some systems have a tickbox for individual users to choose whether to be notified, so it was worth checking. Not that I can find any users' prefs for the website. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role
Hi Hal, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:38, Hal Parker wrote: > The one thing I am definitely NOT doing is changing the borders and the row > colours in tables of data. Now that the OOo books have their tables in > black, white, and gray, I can't see the need for taking the time to change > them to a slightly different pattern of black, white, and gray. IMHO, you're absolutely right. Surely it's not an important branding issue. I don't think we have to get pedantic about things, especially when it involves a lot of work of secondary priority. This coming week, I'll start helping you out, and will post at that time to liaise with you about where I should jump in. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / our role
Hi :) I agree with Hal. I think we need to get the job finished fast now that LO has been officially released. There will be plenty of time later to re-visit and do some finesses ready for a re-release but we have to get our first finished version out there fast now. Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 3:38:18 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide status / my role I plan to keep working my way through the Writer Guide chapters in the Drafts space. When Barbara and I finish with them, I plan to start reviewing the ones she has put in the Review space. With any luck, those can go directly to Proofing. I am not paying much attention to terminological consistency, as I think that's a "nice to have" that can wait until the next release of the book and I'm not great at that level of detail anyway. I am trying to do all the rebranding things, but no doubt I'll miss something that someone will pick up on the next pass. The one thing I am definitely NOT doing is changing the borders and the row colours in tables of data. Now that the OOo books have their tables in black, white, and gray, I can't see the need for taking the time to change them to a slightly different pattern of black, white, and gray. Maybe for a later release, but not now. If someone else wants to do it now, that's their business. When things are well enough advanced, I'm happy to put all the chapters together into a book... unless the various steps take so long that I've gone off on some trip and am not available. Of course, if someone else wants to do it, that's fine with me. I've not caught up with who else is working on the Writer Guide, or what they are doing or planning to do. Hal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
> From: Stefan Weigel > To: documentation@libreoffice.org > > Am 29.01.2011 00:23, schrieb Hal Parker: > > Now that I have access to the website, I'm getting messages > > whenever someone changes any page. How can I stop these emails? > > You could create a filter rule with your mail provider or in your > mail client. > > Stefan > I've set a rule to filter all messages with `CMS Workflow: LibreOffice` in the subject and its working just fine. Seemed the simplest way to avoid the hassle. Still cooking up some content for the site, David. Sometimes it's a saute pan, sometimes it's a crock-pot. :D. -- jdc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
Hi Jean, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:18, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Shall I start uploading the OOo files to the Drafts folders for Draw, > Calc, Math, for people to work on rebranding when they have a chance? Yes, please, that would be great. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Writer Guide files on the wiki
Hi, :-) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:06, Ron Faile wrote: > If we remove the > Writer Guide files, what are the users going to read if they need some > documentation? Especially since 3.3 was just released and many people will > be visiting the site. They need to be able to download something, even if > it's not finished. This week, I'll start contributing work on the remaining chapters that need attention, and I hope we'll get an acceptable version to publishable status *very quickly*. > I also thought that the documentation development page for working files > should not have been deleted so quickly. Alfresco is only in it's infantcy > as far as implementation goes. It would have been nice to have kept it until > things are more ironed out. IMHO, Jeremy and Samphan's work is ready for start of docs work, and - by starting work with the existing Alfresco workflow they've produced - we can quickly fix anything we run across. In any case, I've finished the work on the website that I was doing. So, from now on, I'll be working to get up to speed with Alfresco and the current situation in docs, and will be actively taking part in the work you guys are doing. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Hi :) I am having the same problem. Can we stop the website sending out these mails? Filter rules often filter the wrong stuff aswell as the right stuff and it's tricky to get the precise enough Regards from Tom :) From: Stefan Weigel To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 8:21:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS? Hi, Am 29.01.2011 00:23, schrieb Hal Parker: > Now that I have access to the website, I'm getting messages whenever someone > changes any page. How can I stop these emails? You could create a filter rule with your mail provider or in your mail client. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to stop emails from CMS?
Hi, Am 29.01.2011 00:23, schrieb Hal Parker: > Now that I have access to the website, I'm getting messages whenever someone > changes any page. How can I stop these emails? You could create a filter rule with your mail provider or in your mail client. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
