Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:31 +0100, jr wrote: > On 26 May 2010 22:16, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be > > flexible. > > what do you mean by flexible? Flash, etc? > > I meant to have a closer look at Pardus (not yet found time). > > http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system) > > -- > regards, jr. > > time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. > Not flash particularly; more personal freedom, the freedom to choose for yourself. They facilitate this. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
> registered in the Isle of Man although with > various offices around the world. The Isle of Man is part of the British > Isles and is thus British (but not part of the United Kingdom, Great > Britain or the European Union). > > Oh. I seem to have come over all pedantic. Sorry about that. > That is the kind of accurate information one needs to make informed decisions. That is not pedantic. Never be frightened of accuracy. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On 26 May 2010 22:16, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be > flexible. what do you mean by flexible? Flash, etc? I meant to have a closer look at Pardus (not yet found time). http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:59 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. > > Mark Shuttleworth has set up Canonical in the UK, but AIUI, most of his staff > are in South Africa. > > -- > Terry Coles > 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux > > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be flexible. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:56:57 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > But I still think that Ubuntu is better. Consumers want to compute, not > sit an exam. True - though the F/OSS pushers would reply with those steps should not be needed. Hopefully updates arn't too bad with Presto enabled ;) - though most of that would have been fresh installed software and so wouldn't have seen the benefit. -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. Mark Shuttleworth has set up Canonical in the UK, but AIUI, most of his staff are in South Africa. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
yo simono, > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy) you're right though about "UK-based company Canonical Ltd." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:22 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > I tend to use this guide on fresh installs > http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f12.html sadly [s]he has not > released a F13 version as yet. Hopefully it will arrive soon. If your > careful you should be able to follow the F12 guide and most things are > likely to work on F13, be careful though. > Robert, I just googled RPM Fusion, was directed to the rpmfusion.net site and just clicked on the auto installer for the package updater. Then I was asked for my admin password, and it installed with a few dire warnings of naughtiness. Then I ran Updater again, it refreshed to an even newer 13 version, then I ran the software installer and found all my favourites. Simple. But I still think that Ubuntu is better. Consumers want to compute, not sit an exam. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:27:35 +0100, jr4...@googlemail.com said: > Ubuntu is British, thank god. > > aah, the days of the empire. :-) > > Ubuntu is South-African. Ubuntu is a South African word; the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution is Canonical Ltd, registered in the Isle of Man although with various offices around the world. The Isle of Man is part of the British Isles and is thus British (but not part of the United Kingdom, Great Britain or the European Union). Oh. I seem to have come over all pedantic. Sorry about that. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:27 +0100, jr wrote: > On 26 May 2010 21:25, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under > > the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. > > aah, the days of the empire. :-) > > Ubuntu is South-African. > > -- > regards, jr. > > time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. > -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On 26 May 2010 21:25, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under > the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. aah, the days of the empire. :-) Ubuntu is South-African. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:42 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:15 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > > On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan > > wrote: > > > > > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > > > > Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) > > > > As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion > > repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only > > allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) > > > > Have fun > > > > -- > > Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > > Thanks Robert! > I wanted to see if it would power-up my old low-spec wireless dongles, > so far no luck. > Installing (104) updates via hardwire at the moment. > I'll add the other repository as soon as it's finished. > So far, Cheese still needs better hardware than my old box, so no change > there. > I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a > bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle > which used to cripple Microsoft? > > -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:42:17 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: I tend to use this guide on fresh installs http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f12.html sadly [s]he has not released a F13 version as yet. Hopefully it will arrive soon. If your careful you should be able to follow the F12 guide and most things are likely to work on F13, be careful though. > I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a > bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle > which used to cripple Microsoft? Don't quote me on it but I get the impression Red Hat are aware of not upsetting people regarding re-distribution of non-free stuff. Mix that with a wish to go 'completely' F/OSS and you soon lose non-free support. This includes F/OSS derivatives of non-free codecs etc. A pain for first time windows users but not a big deal to anyone who has spent any time with Linux. -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:15 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan > wrote: > > > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > > Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) > > As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion > repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only > allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) > > Have fun > > -- > Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > Thanks Robert! I wanted to see if it would power-up my old low-spec wireless dongles, so far no luck. Installing (104) updates via hardwire at the moment. I'll add the other repository as soon as it's finished. So far, Cheese still needs better hardware than my old box, so no change there. I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle which used to cripple Microsoft? -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 20:05:14 Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Made my mind up to run up a spare box with another distro; started > looking at Debian Lenny, hated the amateurish customer site(a forest of > undocumented static links) so I've settled on Fedora 13. > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > Simono If you want to run a Debian based distro then have a look at Simply Mepis 8.5, all the good bits from Debian and presented as a modern distro http://www.mepis.org/ Tim -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) Have fun -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
[Dorset] Slow night.
Made my mind up to run up a spare box with another distro; started looking at Debian Lenny, hated the amateurish customer site(a forest of undocumented static links) so I've settled on Fedora 13. It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting & C4L Visit - One week tonight
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Terry Coles wrote: > Afterwards, or for those not going to C4L, the venue will be The Hogshead > in Westbourne, see http://www.hogsheadwestbourne.co.uk/. I don't know > this pub, but it does seem to have a small car park, I understand that > those of us going to C4L can leave our cars there if we prefer. I lied about the car park; there isn't one attached to the pub. I was misled by the link to Google on the Hogshead page which said that the pub was about 1/2 mile from where it really is. However, Streetview is your friend and that reveals that there is a public car park next door. I couldn't quite read the charges, but presumably they won't be too usurious at 8 pm! You can see the Hogshead on David's Google map. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
[Dorset] Next Meeting & C4L Visit - One week tonight
Hi, The next Meeting is one week tonight. For those who've sent their details to David it will start at the C4L data centre see: http://www.bournemouthdatacentre.co.uk. The location of C4l can be seen at http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=102614788614423849298.00048630eb3ab3873c46f&t=h&z=18. Afterwards, or for those not going to C4L, the venue will be The Hogshead in Westbourne, see http://www.hogsheadwestbourne.co.uk/. I don't know this pub, but it does seem to have a small car park, I understand that those of us going to C4L can leave our cars there if we prefer. See you there! -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Tour of C4L
On 26/05/10 08:37, David Wilkinson wrote: > > Could everyone who is going let me know by Tuesday so that I can make > sure you are on the list and wont be refused entry. > > Just as a reminder the tour is on Wednesday 2010-06-02 at 19:00 > > > Hi David- Please count me in! Name: John Carlyle-Clarke Email: j...@wormdrive.net Company: Geonix Tracking Ltd. Best regards, John -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Tour of C4L
Hi David, > > Everyone should email David directly with the information if they're > > thinking of going. There's a button at the bottom of > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk/msg01586.html > > > > if you don't know his email address. > > Could everyone who is going let me know by Tuesday so that I can make > sure you are on the list and wont be refused entry. Out of the 7 > people who expressed an interest I have had only 4 contact me off list > saying that they will be going. > > Ralph: any news from Bunix and dotDorset? Robert Bronsdon forwarded your email onto their list to remind them. I gave dotDorset the details on Monday and have just told them of your deadline above. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Tour of C4L
Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Clive, > > >>> I have also been asked to get the following from the people who are >>> going on the tour. >>> >>> Name, company name and email address >>> >> Do you want us to send you an email off list or will Ralph (or other) >> collect details from the 'mailing list', as that holds all details >> required. >> > > Everyone should email David directly with the information if they're > thinking of going. There's a button at the bottom of > > http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk/msg01586.html > > if you don't know his email address. Company name, if folks have one, > isn't known to the list software, and it also doesn't know peoples' > names in some cases, just their email addressses. > > Cheers, > Ralph. Hi Could everyone who is going let me know by Tuesday so that I can make sure you are on the list and wont be refused entry. Out of the 7 people who expressed an interest I have had only 4 contact me off list saying that they will be going. Ralph: any news from Bunix and dotDorset? Just as a reminder the tour is on Wednesday 2010-06-02 at 19:00 Regards David -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
