Re: [Dorset] linux mag
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 14:40 +, Nicky Scopes wrote: hi all, whilst on my travels i came across a new linux magazine in whsmith, its called Linux Open Source Genius Guide Volume 1. and its massive with over 200 pages, it has tutorials aswell as the usuall stuff that a computer mag has, but at £14.99 its a bit expensive, the free dvd has lots of software including googles new operating system which is essentially based on ubuntu. i usually buy linux format, i have tried linux magazine but that one seems to be for those that use linux in their jobs. i just wondered what do other users in the dorset lug like to read? I have a couple of Linux books that I seldom refer to, becasue they are too academic. Mostly, because I have my own ideas and am looking for solutions, I use the web, and if I can't find an answer there, I ask here. I did a search for 'linux open source genius', and found this source of books, at a good price. http://www.ebookcomputer.com/LINUX_OPEN_SOURCE_-_GENIUS_GUIDE-ebook---.html Peter -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
[Dorset] Introduction
Hi, I came along to the last meeting so it's probably about time I introduced myself on this list. I'm a software engineer working for Red Hat, mainly on areas to do with printing. I will try to come along to the Bournemouth meetings -- I live locally. I don't have a car so I'm unlikely to be able to make it to any that are further afield. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Looking for work with *NIX systems
hi Robert, A long shot I know ... I am looking for work and know there are many companies out there who could use someone but are not currently advertising. have you thought about advertising yourself on 'gumtree'? http://bournemouth.gumtree.com/ hth -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Looking for work with *NIX systems
Try the CWJobs website. You probably won't get local work, but there are requirements for scripting specialists popping up quite frequently. Good luck! Simono On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 11:42 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: Hello, A long shot I know, though as my Granddad says You don't get if you don't ask. So here goes. I am a recent graduate from Bournemouth University (BSc (Hons) Computing) and have been a Linux and BSD user for a good few years now. I am looking for work and know there are many companies out there who could use someone but are not currently advertising. Most of my experience is in working for small development businesses and I have spent much of that time working in .php. I have experience in using Python, Ruby and Java; currently I am teaching myself C. In those roles, as the sole Linux users, I find myself administering an assortment of Linux servers and so have good experience there. Does anyone know of any companies who may be looking for someone like me, I am willing to give many different things a go. If you are please contact me off-list, a CV and covering letter can be provided at request. Many Thanks and apologies is this is too far off topic. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
Hi Clive,
So it's complaining that /tmp/.X11-unix exists but it isn't a
directory that has `drwxrwxrwt' as its permissions. That directory is
created by /etc/rcS.d/S70x11-common so for some reason that either
isn't working, or it's work is being trampled afterwards.
There's been some progress. I've raised a bug on the `chmod 1777' in
/etc/init.d/x11-common that attempts to set the permissions on
/tmp/.X11-unix to drwxrwxrwt.
(If you think that should work, given we're root, think again before the
spoiler in the bug report. :-)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/623294
and what does
ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix
show now, when it's all working?
Clive, it would be helpful if you were to do that command just before
shutting down and record the result. Then we'd be able to see if
there's a pattern that matches whether the following boot works or not.
I'd suggest
(date; ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix) ralph.txt
If you wish, after a successful boot you can edit the file and add an
OK line.
Cheers,
Ralph.
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Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
On 24/08/10 12:00, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
Hi Clive,
So it's complaining that /tmp/.X11-unix exists but it isn't a
directory that has `drwxrwxrwt' as its permissions. That directory is
created by /etc/rcS.d/S70x11-common so for some reason that either
isn't working, or it's work is being trampled afterwards.
There's been some progress. I've raised a bug on the `chmod 1777' in
/etc/init.d/x11-common that attempts to set the permissions on
/tmp/.X11-unix to drwxrwxrwt.
(If you think that should work, given we're root, think again before the
spoiler in the bug report. :-)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/623294
Looked at that but confused as to what it says!
and what does
ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix
show now, when it's all working?
drwxrwxrwt 2 root 4096 2010-08-24 13:07 then /tmp/.X11-unix was
highlighted in green box (a directory?)
Clive, it would be helpful if you were to do that command just before
shutting down and record the result. Then we'd be able to see if
there's a pattern that matches whether the following boot works or not.
I'd suggest
(date; ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix)ralph.txt
just run the above output failed with:
ls: cannot access /tmp/.ICE--unix: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /tmp/.X11--unix: No such file or directory
Even trying with sudo in front it failed, should the () or {} be included?
Will bring the laptop to Blandford meeting so you can see what's happening.
Clive
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[Dorset] ACPI control
I have been wondering why I am having trouble setting up an HP Parallel printer, and every time I try and install anything, like cups, It terminates with an error due to acpi control. My grub file ends with a statement that I added a couple of months ago: # added 22-6-10 to enable temperature sensors GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=acpi_enforce_resources=lax If I take out this line I won't have the temperatures showing in Conky, which I guess I could do without now, But is there any better way to sort it out? Peter -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
On 24/08/10 19:14, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
(date; ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix)ralph.txt
Then, to give us the output, copy and paste from the terminal back to
the reply. Include the shell prompt before, where you entered the
command, and the blank one after. That way we can see that what you
actually entered, and tell that the output finished by the re-appearance
of the shell's prompt. So, for the first command above, it would be
something like
$ ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix
drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2010-07-24 07:23 /
drwxrwxrwt 15 root root 20480 2010-08-24 07:35 /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-14 09:08 /tmp/.X11-unix
$
(`$' is my shell prompt, yours will be different and longer.)
The second command above, the
(date; ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.{ICE,X11}-unix)ralph.txt
Ralph
That explained some of it, thanks. Tried the commands again and this is
what I got:-
Tue Aug 24 16:39:55 BST 2010
drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 /
drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 16:38 /tmp
Tue Aug 24 22:59:14 BST 2010
drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 /
drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:55 /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.ICE-unix
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix
AND
cl...@clive-laptop:~$ ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix
drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 /
drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 23:01 /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix
cl...@clive-laptop:~$
Any good?
Clive
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Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
Hi Clive, That explained some of it, thanks. Tried the commands again and this is what I got:- Tue Aug 24 16:39:55 BST 2010 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 16:38 /tmp Tue Aug 24 22:59:14 BST 2010 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:55 /tmp drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.ICE-unix drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix AND cl...@clive-laptop:~$ ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 23:01 /tmp drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix cl...@clive-laptop:~$ Any good? Yep, spot on! The contents of ./ralph.txt show you're recording the time and the state of those four directories, and the second's a subset of that. The directories permissions are all perfect at the moment. What I'm assuming is that when xorg complains about /tmp/.X11-unix's permissions being incorrect, stopping you from getting the login screen, the fault, or the underlying cause of it, may already be in place before you shutdown and by recording the state of the directories before shutdown in ./ralph.txt we'll get proof of the problem. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] linux mag
Hi Nicky, whilst on my travels i came across a new linux magazine in whsmith, its called Linux Open Source Genius Guide Volume 1. I saw it today. It's a spin-off from the _Linux User_ people I think, I suspect a lot of the content is hewn from previous issues of the magazine. and its massive with over 200 pages, it has tutorials aswell as the usuall stuff that a computer mag has, but at £14.99 its a bit expensive, the free dvd has lots of software including googles new operating system which is essentially based on ubuntu. One of the other Linux magazines also had a spin-off, a big carboard thing for a tenner. i usually buy linux format, i have tried linux magazine but that one seems to be for those that use linux in their jobs. i just wondered what do other users in the dorset lug like to read? I flick through all of them in WHS and _Linux Format_ seems to be the best from my point of view, but not good enough to make me shell out £6.49, especially for a DVD I don't want. :-) The other two, _Linux User Developer_ and _Linux Magazine_ are a shade cheaper at just under £6. Out of curiosity I picked a few car, camera, and caravan magazines at random and they all came in at £3.95; seems we're being ripped off. Are they available in non-DVD versions? Years ago, like mid-90s, I used to subscribe to _Linux Journal_ from the USA, and that was good, but I haven't read it in years. Later, I used to see it on the shelf in Borders but that's gone now, as jr said. It seems they put articles from older issues on the web to read. http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Boot up fault Ubuntu 10.04
On 24/08/10 23:37, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Clive, That explained some of it, thanks. Tried the commands again and this is what I got:- Tue Aug 24 16:39:55 BST 2010 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 16:38 /tmp Tue Aug 24 22:59:14 BST 2010 drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:55 /tmp drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.ICE-unix drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix AND cl...@clive-laptop:~$ ls -ld / /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 2010-07-25 23:33 / drwxrwxrwt 13 root root 4096 2010-08-24 23:01 /tmp drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 2010-08-24 22:54 /tmp/.X11-unix cl...@clive-laptop:~$ Any good? Yep, spot on! The contents of ./ralph.txt show you're recording the time and the state of those four directories, and the second's a subset of that. The directories permissions are all perfect at the moment. What I'm assuming is that when xorg complains about /tmp/.X11-unix's permissions being incorrect, stopping you from getting the login screen, the fault, or the underlying cause of it, may already be in place before you shutdown and by recording the state of the directories before shutdown in ./ralph.txt we'll get proof of the problem. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa Ralph Can I put those 2 commands into a file and run it just before shutdown each time, if so how? If I put them into a text file on separate lines and called it 'testboot.txt' could I type 'run testboot.txt' in a terminal screen, would it work? Clive -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] linux mag
In my earlier Linux days I used to buy `Linux Format'. I slowly stopped buying it as I discovered most of the content I could find online (in various guises, not just the actual article). If I knew someone new to Linux or someone who wanted to show off what they `could do' with Linux then I would say to give the magazine a go. -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ -- Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
