Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
Thanks for all the comments and will try on the desktop PC as my '/' directory is nearly full with 21 of 26 Gb's. Don't know why as I've removed some progs but that's another problem for later. Will also try Ralph's idea of using the browser to our daughter in CH. C A Wills On 26/03/2020 16:26, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Clive, we are being asked to go onto Zoom so w can use video linking with various groups Get one of them to give you a ‘meeting ID’ for a test run. My question is:- Linux Mint 19.08 has it in the repository but comments something about it being a wrapper only. As someone else mentioned, sorry, forget whom, it probably means it downloads their binary and packages that up using your system's package format so it sits nicely alongside everything else. It should be okay to try installing... Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? Before installing the package, try using it from your web browser, again as someone else said on this thread. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362593-Launching-Zoom-from-a-web-browser If that's adequate for your needs then you won't have to install software. Modern web browsers can access cameras and microphones, popping up a window to ask permission at the time. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
Hi Clive, > we are being asked to go onto Zoom so w can use video linking with > various groups Get one of them to give you a ‘meeting ID’ for a test run. > My question is:- Linux Mint 19.08 has it in the repository but > comments something about it being a wrapper only. As someone else mentioned, sorry, forget whom, it probably means it downloads their binary and packages that up using your system's package format so it sits nicely alongside everything else. It should be okay to try installing... > Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? Before installing the package, try using it from your web browser, again as someone else said on this thread. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362593-Launching-Zoom-from-a-web-browser If that's adequate for your needs then you won't have to install software. Modern web browsers can access cameras and microphones, popping up a window to ask permission at the time. -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
I used Zoom on Ubuntu MATE 18.04 the other week, It was a support call with a vendor so didn't use a webcam but voice and screenshare was ok. I used the deb file from the Zoom site. There is also the option of running Zoom within the browser which should be fine for voice and video, while the browser only version allowed me to show my screen, they couldn't control it which is why I went to the .deb install. On 26/03/2020 14:14, Patrick Wigmore wrote: On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:38:48 +, C Wills wrote: Linux Mint 19.08 has it in the repository but comments something about it being a wrapper only. Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? I assume Zoom has a non-Free software license. (Free as in freedom.) Because of that, I think the "wrapper only" comment probably means the package only contains code that grabs the software from elsewhere, rather than including the software in the package itself. The same thing that's often done with other packages, like Adobe Flash and the Microsoft core fonts for the Web, as a workaround for restrictions on distribution. I can't say whether it works or not, as I've never come across it before. I would probably try the .deb directly from their download page. It claims compatibility with Linux Mint 17.1+. https://zoom.us/download#client_4meeting Patrick -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
On Thursday, 26 March 2020 14:14:38 GMT Patrick Wigmore wrote: > I would probably try the .deb directly from their download page. It > claims compatibility with Linux Mint 17.1+. I tried the other way: https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom[1] I found the process a bit convoluted because I'd never used flatpaks before, but eventually got it to install. Particularly obscure was that after I'd followed the procedure at the link, I then had to run the installation in the shell which resulted in: *terry@OptiPlex*:*~*$ flatpak install zoom * ID Arch Branch Remote Download* ✓] org.freedesktop.Platform x86_64 19.08 flathub 224.2 MB / 238.2 MB ✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.defaultx86_64 19.08 flathub 94.9 MB / 94.9 MB ✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.nvidia-435-21 x86_64 1.4 flathub 103.3 MB / 103.3 MB ✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.Localex86_64 19.08 flathub 16.7 kB / 318.2 MB ✓] org.freedesktop.Platform.openh264 x86_64 2.0 flathub 918.1 kB / 916.8 kB ✓] us.zoom.Zoom x86_64 stable flathub 72.7 MB / 72.7 MB *terry@OptiPlex*:*~*$ I was then left with a rather obscure launcher which is buried in /var/lib/flatpak/app/ us.zoom.Zoom/ (how bizarre!) which seems to be clickable. I then got a dialogue called 'Zoom Cloud Meetings' and choices of 'Join a Meeting' or 'Sign In'. I selected Sign In and created an account. Once I had logged in I was provided with a dialogue which will allow me to Setup a new meeting, Schedule a meeting, Join a meeting or Share the screen. So I obviously haven't actually set up any meetings yet, but everything seems to work OK, including the Camera and Audio settings. -- Terry Coles [1] https://flathub.org/apps/details/us.zoom.Zoom -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:38:48 +, C Wills wrote: > Linux Mint 19.08 has it in the repository but comments something > about it being a wrapper only. > Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? I assume Zoom has a non-Free software license. (Free as in freedom.) Because of that, I think the "wrapper only" comment probably means the package only contains code that grabs the software from elsewhere, rather than including the software in the package itself. The same thing that's often done with other packages, like Adobe Flash and the Microsoft core fonts for the Web, as a workaround for restrictions on distribution. I can't say whether it works or not, as I've never come across it before. I would probably try the .deb directly from their download page. It claims compatibility with Linux Mint 17.1+. https://zoom.us/download#client_4meeting Patrick -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
I had a similar situation and found that tryin to connect with Zoom on Linux complained when attempting to run xdg-open, with an alert saying "Failed to open URI zoommtg:// web04.zoom.us/join?action=join=yadayadayada". Since I am running a Linux VM on a Windows laptop I just opened it in Windows instead. A quick Google implied that there are issues that can be worked around but not easily. best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Netley Abbey, Southampton 07970 844083 On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 13:44, Keith Edmunds wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:38:48 +, ci...@cewland.uk said: > > > Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? > > Try it! Let me know if you'd like to set up a quick proof-of-concept call. > -- > Linux Tips: https://www.tiger-computing.co.uk/category/techtips/ > > -- > Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 > Check to whom you are replying > Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
On Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:38:48 GMT C Wills wrote: > Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? Apparently there have recently been problems with all teleconferencing tools: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/16/zoom_teams_outage/[1] -- Terry Coles [1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/16/zoom_teams_outage/ -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:38:48 +, ci...@cewland.uk said: > Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? Try it! Let me know if you'd like to set up a quick proof-of-concept call. -- Linux Tips: https://www.tiger-computing.co.uk/category/techtips/ -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Donating computing power
On Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:30:33 GMT PeterMerchant wrote: > Virtually the same problem, except that I got through the _all install ok, > and it is only the Viewer that failed dependencies, so I wonder if I need > that. The web site is a bit short on help on this. I couldn't see what > dependencies I was missing, but going by what Terry said, It's probably the > same as I am also on Kubuntu 18.04 Peter, I'm actually on 19.10 and it was the dependency python-gnome2 that it couldn't find, which is apparently in 18.04. This meant for me that the *all package failed to install, but the viewer worked, presumably because it was able to pull in one of its dependencies from the 19.10 repository. Looking at the install log, the only package that I didn't explicitly install on that day was libwxgtk-webview3.0-gtk3-0v5 (3.0.4+dfsg-12). Maybe that's not in 18.04 or maybe it came with the Client package but wasn't compatible with something on your system. Without the viewer you won't be able to see what's going on, but (presumably) since you have the control package you will at least be able to select what projects to focus on. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
[Dorset] Using ZOOM on Linus
Hi all We are both OK but we are being asked to go onto Zoom so w can use video linking with various groups (family in CH, Lace groups in UK & Africa & Australia). My question is:- Linux Mint 19.08 has it in the repository but comments something about it being a wrapper only. Does Zoom work and is there any problem with it please? -- C A Wills -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Donating computing power
On 25/03/2020 10:53, Terry Coles wrote: On Monday, 23 March 2020 16:47:37 GMT Tim Waugh wrote: In case you haven't seen stories about this elsewhere, I thought I'd share a couple of projects which may help us all out of this mess by harnessing otherwise-idle CPU/GPU time. https://foldingathome.org/covid19/ http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ Well I tried Folding at Home first (mainly because that was what Tim was using). However, I ended up with dependency issues and the installation process wasn't straightforward either. Initially, I checked my package manager but folding wasn't there, so I downloaded the three .deb packages on the Folding website. I then attempted to install each of the three .deb packages in turn by clicking on them. This launched the Qapt installer, which worked for the client, but not for the *all or viewer package. When I tried installing in a console it turned out that apt couldn't find the package that I was trying to install, presumably because the directory wasn't on the PATH. Once I fixed this, I found that the dependency python-gnome2 was missing. Apparently that hasn't been in (K)Ubuntu since 18.04 and I'm running 19.10. Your mileage will undoubtedly vary as our American cousins say. I then decided that life was too short and installed boinc from the package manager. This is now running and the current task is expected to take 5 hours. All four cores (8 threads) are shown as running at 100% in KSysGuard; that might put my son off running this. Apart from that I am running the Rosetta@Home Biology task and according to the BOINC site they have been focusing on coronavirus since the 6th March. Virtually the same problem, except that I got through the _all install ok, and it is only the Viewer that failed dependencies, so I wonder if I need that. The web site is a bit short on help on this. I couldn't see what dependencies I was missing, but going by what Terry said, It's probably the same as I am also on Kubuntu 18.04 Peter m -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, post-lurgi 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
