[Bug 8217] Random freezes after 'startx' with Radeon 8500 DV and DRI enabled
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter yourcomments there. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-09-11 01:46 --- Please attach another X log file without the multimedia modules. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Bug 8217] Random freezes after 'startx' with Radeon 8500 DV and DRI enabled
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter yourcomments there. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-09-11 01:54 --- I'm guessing some problem with the VIA AGP ... I think I've seen some reports of this... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Bug 8217] Random freezes after 'startx' with Radeon 8500 DV and DRI enabled
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter yourcomments there. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-09-11 04:10 --- Created an attachment (id=6910) -- (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=6910action=view) Log for startup without multimedia modules Here is the log from starting up X with DRI enabled and the multimedia modules moved out of the way. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
What can the FSF do to help?
The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High Priority Project. We recognize that the lack of 3D video drivers for their specific hardware is one of the primary obstacles preventing people from running entirely free systems. The development status and location of that project has changed, and we would like to update our recommendation. We are interested in ideas for how we can help contribute to the project's development (and to the overall goals of performing 3D video drivers for free software operating systems). I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. (I'll stay subscribed to the list -- or please point me in a different direction if there is a more appropriate list for this.) Thanks, -- John Sullivan Program Administrator| Phone: (617)542-5942 x23 51 Franklin Street, 5th Fl. | Fax: (617)542-2652 Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA| GPG: AE8600B6 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On Monday 11 September 2006 16:09, John Sullivan wrote: I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. Honestly, it'd be nice if the R300 project focus would change to getting the driver to work on hardware that it doesn't already work on that is R300 family hardware (including hacking Xorg's 2D driver) instead of prioritizing unsupported features. As such, I'd love to use the R300 driver (and maybe even help development, if not just testing), but as it stands, on my run of the mill RV350 AP revision hardware (a Radeon 9600), initialization of X hangs if I enable DRI, but continues fine if DRI is off (ie, its not the 2D driver's own code hanging X). This I'd think is a severe bug, as RV350 hardware of all revisions is quite common (and, in fact, many revisions of RV350 hardware do work fine), but adding features over fixing bugs like this is, well, stupid, especially if I, and others like me in my position, cannot use them. -- Patrick McFarland || http://AdTerrasPerAspera.com Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Sullivan wrote: The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High Priority Project. We recognize that the lack of 3D video drivers for their specific hardware is one of the primary obstacles preventing people from running entirely free systems. The development status and location of that project has changed, and we would like to update our recommendation. R300 driver development now takes place within the Mesa tree (http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/). The driver is mostly working now. There are still bugs and hardware features that are not supported. Fixing driver bugs that are caused by bad interactions with the hardware tends to be a tedious game of guess and check. This can be particularly annoying when one version of the R300 chips works, but a very similar version has problems for some users. We are interested in ideas for how we can help contribute to the project's development (and to the overall goals of performing 3D video drivers for free software operating systems). I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. The biggest problem with all hardware supported by open drivers is the lack of documentation. The hardware documentation that is available is often only available to a few developers under NDA (e.g., R100 and R200 documentation). Anything that the FSF could do to convince hardware vendors to at least make hardware documentation more available would be a tremendous help. (I'll stay subscribed to the list -- or please point me in a different direction if there is a more appropriate list for this.) Either this list or mesa3d-dev at lists dot sourceforge dot net are basically equivalent. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFBdvKX1gOwKyEAw8RAjUNAJ9NiHn/iCJnragK59CNO/L4rnw08wCdF+5b VSdGXhhQmZE+IRpXJaQ3X6k= =HXPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On 9/11/06, John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High Priority Project. We recognize that the lack of 3D video drivers for their specific hardware is one of the primary obstacles preventing people from running entirely free systems. The development status and location of that project has changed, and we would like to update our recommendation. The r300 driver has been folded into the mesa and xorg projects along with the other video drivers. http://http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ We are interested in ideas for how we can help contribute to the project's development (and to the overall goals of performing 3D video drivers for free software operating systems). I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. If you have any way of working with hardware vendors to get them to provide specs, or even better, open source driver code, it would be much appreciated. Alex (I'll stay subscribed to the list -- or please point me in a different direction if there is a more appropriate list for this.) Thanks, -- John Sullivan Program Administrator| Phone: (617)542-5942 x23 51 Franklin Street, 5th Fl. | Fax: (617)542-2652 Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA| GPG: AE8600B6 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On 9/11/06, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 16:09, John Sullivan wrote: I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. Honestly, it'd be nice if the R300 project focus would change to getting the driver to work on hardware that it doesn't already work on that is R300 family hardware (including hacking Xorg's 2D driver) instead of prioritizing unsupported features. As such, I'd love to use the R300 driver (and maybe even help development, if not just testing), but as it stands, on my run of the mill RV350 AP revision hardware (a Radeon 9600), initialization of X hangs if I enable DRI, but continues fine if DRI is off (ie, its not the 2D driver's own code hanging X). This I'd think is a severe bug, as RV350 hardware of all revisions is quite common (and, in fact, many revisions of RV350 hardware do work fine), but adding features over fixing bugs like this is, well, stupid, especially if I, and others like me in my position, cannot use them. When was the last time you tried the driver? with xorg 7.1, mesa 6.5 and the latest radeon ddx updates, the driver is more stable than ever for me. Alex -- Patrick McFarland || http://AdTerrasPerAspera.com Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On Monday 11 September 2006 18:06, Alex Deucher wrote: When was the last time you tried the driver? with xorg 7.1, mesa 6.5 and the latest radeon ddx updates, the driver is more stable than ever for me. About a month ago I tried using newest xorg, mesa, dri, and drm from svn/git. It still continued not to work. -- Patrick McFarland || http://AdTerrasPerAspera.com Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On 9/12/06, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 18:06, Alex Deucher wrote: When was the last time you tried the driver?with xorg 7.1, mesa 6.5 and the latest radeon ddx updates, the driver is more stable than ever for me. About a month ago I tried using newest xorg, mesa, dri, and drm from svn/git.It still continued not to work.Maybe fill a bug with xorg.log (i remember you filled a bug or raised the issue on this list but i can get my hand on this right now) and more information onyour configuration. I would have though that fix for 9800 would help for other 9xxx.Meanwhile i think fsf can help only by trying to work with hardware vendor. I tried one time to get in touch with ATI people, so far i never get any answer.Maybe try getting in touch with AMD people, i think they got clearance fortheir merge with ATI and now only are waiting for ATI shareholder. I also think we lack people to work on that, or at least people working on thatlack time, i would like to contribute more but my time is already almost fullfillby my work.best,Jerome Glisse - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
On Monday 11 September 2006 18:52, Jerome Glisse wrote: On 9/12/06, Patrick McFarland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 18:06, Alex Deucher wrote: When was the last time you tried the driver? with xorg 7.1, mesa 6.5 and the latest radeon ddx updates, the driver is more stable than ever for me. About a month ago I tried using newest xorg, mesa, dri, and drm from svn/git. It still continued not to work. Maybe fill a bug with xorg.log (i remember you filled a bug or raised the issue on this list but i can get my hand on this right now) and more information on your configuration. I would have though that fix for 9800 would help for other 9xxx. I think I did file a bug, but the xorg.log was virtually empty. There are no errors recorded, and I have to kill -9 X over ssh to get anywhere. X literally just froze in place and stopped. I also did raise it on this list, but it went nowhere. Meanwhile i think fsf can help only by trying to work with hardware vendor. I tried one time to get in touch with ATI people, so far i never get any answer. Maybe try getting in touch with AMD people, i think they got clearance for their merge with ATI and now only are waiting for ATI shareholder. I really hope AMD just releases the damn specifications. I also think we lack people to work on that, or at least people working on that lack time, i would like to contribute more but my time is already almost fullfill by my work. It isn't quite the lacking people problem, its the fact that a) driver hacking isn't easy for the average hacker, b) everyone is just saying fuck ATI and switching to nvidia. I may even switch to nvidia if this keeps up. fglrx sucks, ATI has no interest in helping DRI, and DRI just doesn't have the man power to do stuff quickly. Maybe the FSF should start funding driver development by hiring programmers and buying hardware? Hell, I'll even trade any of you R300 developers my card for a DRI-functioning Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb /w VGA+DVI (or better), as long as the driver is fixed to work with the card I'm trading you. best, Jerome Glisse -- Patrick McFarland || http://AdTerrasPerAspera.com Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
John Sullivan wrote: The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High Priority Project. We recognize that the lack of 3D video drivers for their specific hardware is one of the primary obstacles preventing people from running entirely free systems. The development status and location of that project has changed, and we would like to update our recommendation. We are interested in ideas for how we can help contribute to the project's development (and to the overall goals of performing 3D video drivers for free software operating systems). I'd like to hear any suggestions or feedback that the developers on the list have for what could be done. The FSF may be in a better position to lobby ATI / AMD to release more documentation, particularly for the cards which are completely unsupported, such as the Xpress cards. I'm quite satisfied with the progress being made on my particular card ( r300-based, Mobility X700 - it works great ). However without the ability to support later Radeon cards, a decent portion of future ( and some current ) users will be forced to use ATI's binary drivers. I'd therefore concentrate on these completely unsupported cards ( I believe initialisation of the memory controller is basically the only problem ). I've read on the unofficial ATI Linux forums that some guy who has access to more info under NDA has made patches to add support for these cards, but is being prevented from releasing them by ATI. Just a thought. I'm only a DRI user ... Dan - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
Patrick McFarland wrote: As such, I'd love to use the R300 driver (and maybe even help development, if not just testing), but as it stands, on my run of the mill RV350 AP revision hardware (a Radeon 9600), initialization of X hangs if I enable DRI, but continues fine if DRI is off (ie, its not the 2D driver's own code hanging X). This I'd think is a severe bug, as RV350 hardware of all revisions is quite common (and, in fact, many revisions of RV350 hardware do work fine), but adding features over fixing bugs like this is, well, stupid, especially if I, and others like me in my position, cannot use them. Just as a point of reference... I have two of those RV350 revisions that work fine. Indeed, they both worked fine even before the 9800 fix went into the ati driver a while back. In my case, the cards care both: pci bus 0x0001 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x1002 device 0x4153 ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] Patrick, did you try disabling AGP support and using the card as a generic PCI card using the BusType option? Sorry if this is covered in your previous bug report... Adam - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Bug 8056] s3tc broken in ut2004
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter yourcomments there. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8056 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-09-11 17:55 --- (In reply to comment #9) It is common knowledge that r300 is slow, but UT 2004 is playable provided you set UseVBO=True. This should give a 3x speedup. I've changed that, it seems to make a big difference if s3tc is enabled, but still not playable. I have a somewhat serious interest in working on r300 though, and I've been trying to reproduce the texture corruption issue with my own simple opengl commands. So far, I have a spinning cube with a texture on the sides, and I have r300 warning my about the multitexturing problems, but the texture still looks fine. I'm going to find out about how to use multitexturing and add to my code till I hopefully reproduce the problem. Anyone have any advice for me? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: What can the FSF do to help?
Am Montag, 11. September 2006 22:09 schrieb John Sullivan: The Free Software Foundation had listed http://r300.sf.net/ as a High Priority Project. I think nouveau (nouveau.freedesktop.org) should gain the same priority. It's trying to do the things the r300-project successfuly did for many cards on the nvidia-side. -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpjBPbxL4ap5.pgp Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
[Bug 8056] s3tc broken in ut2004
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter yourcomments there. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8056 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-09-11 21:27 --- (In reply to comment #10) (In reply to comment #9) It is common knowledge that r300 is slow, but UT 2004 is playable provided you set UseVBO=True. This should give a 3x speedup. I've changed that, it seems to make a big difference if s3tc is enabled, but still not playable. I have a somewhat serious interest in working on r300 though, and I've been trying to reproduce the texture corruption issue with my own simple opengl commands. So far, I have a spinning cube with a texture on the sides, and I have r300 warning my about the multitexturing problems, but the texture still looks fine. I'm going to find out about how to use multitexturing and add to my code till I hopefully reproduce the problem. Anyone have any advice for me? http://www.rasterburn.org/~aet/multiarb1.c -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
