Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ]

Hi Jim,
I understand. But I thought that there was no problem with it: when data 
changes, info will be kept in OmniRig and reported next time when DX4WIN polls 
OmniRig. Is there a problem with it?
73, Radi





Le Dimanche 16 mars 2014 17h08, Jim Reisert AD1C  a 
écrit :
 
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ wrote:
>
>
>> But. looking in the OmniRig's configuration window, there are well a polling 
>> time and time-outs specified, like in DX4WIN. Running the OmniRig's  
>> Client.exe program one can see that Omnirig polls the radio and changing the 
>> frequencies/modes on the rig are well reflected in the Client.exe window.  
>> But I may have not well interpreted what Paul exactly meant with "OmniRig is 
>> event driven" 
>
>Hi Radi,
>
>I am going to take a stab at this...
>
>There are generally two ways to get data.  One is the PULL model,
>where you continually ask the source if new data is available.  When
>the data finally changes from the last time you asked, you do
>something with it.  This is the same as POLLING.  It's like being
>blind, and having to ask the person next to you if the score in the
>football match has changed yet.  When it does change, you stand up and
>cheer.  Depending on how often you ask, it could be minutes after the
>goal before you stand up and cheer.
>
>The other is the PUSH model.  The source of the data only sends it to
>you when it changes.  It doesn't have ears, only a mouth, so it can't
>respond to queries.  Like the scoreboard at a football match.  DX4WIN
>would just sit and wait for Omnirig to tell it the that the radio
>changed.  This is known as event driven.
>
>DX4WIN only knows how to ask for data, i.e. polling.  It doesn't know
>what to do with data that is given to it without asking.
>
>-- 
>Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us
>
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Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ wrote:

> But. looking in the OmniRig's configuration window, there are well a polling 
> time and time-outs specified, like in DX4WIN. Running the OmniRig's  
> Client.exe program one can see that Omnirig polls the radio and changing the 
> frequencies/modes on the rig are well reflected in the Client.exe window.  
> But I may have not well interpreted what Paul exactly meant with "OmniRig is 
> event driven" 

Hi Radi,

I am going to take a stab at this...

There are generally two ways to get data.  One is the PULL model,
where you continually ask the source if new data is available.  When
the data finally changes from the last time you asked, you do
something with it.  This is the same as POLLING.  It's like being
blind, and having to ask the person next to you if the score in the
football match has changed yet.  When it does change, you stand up and
cheer.  Depending on how often you ask, it could be minutes after the
goal before you stand up and cheer.

The other is the PUSH model.  The source of the data only sends it to
you when it changes.  It doesn't have ears, only a mouth, so it can't
respond to queries.  Like the scoreboard at a football match.  DX4WIN
would just sit and wait for Omnirig to tell it the that the radio
changed.  This is known as event driven.

DX4WIN only knows how to ask for data, i.e. polling.  It doesn't know
what to do with data that is given to it without asking.

-- 
Jim Reisert AD1C, , http://www.ad1c.us
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Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ]

Bill,
In his message concerning DX4WIN Updates on this Reflector: 

 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=dx4win@mailman.qth.net&q=subject:%22Re%3A+%5BDx4win%5D+Fwd%3A+Re%3A+Updates+on+a+more+positive+note%21%22
 

 Paul has responded following concerning the Omnirig:


6. OmniRig: Has evaluated to a powerful system, using text files to
describe the interface similar to what DX4WIN does. The problem for me is
that OmniRig is event driven, DX4WIN polls the radio.

I am not sure if it means there would be a problem to do it, and it would not 
be done for that reason. 

But. looking in the OmniRig's configuration window, there are well a polling 
time and time-outs specified, like in DX4WIN. Running the OmniRig's  Client.exe 
program one can see that Omnirig polls the radio and changing the 
frequencies/modes on the rig are well reflected in the Client.exe window.  But 
I may have not well interpreted what Paul exactly meant with "OmniRig is event 
driven" 

73, Radi F6GNZ






Le Mardi 11 mars 2014 23h35, William Osborne  a écrit :
 
Does anyone know if support for OmniRig will be added to DX4WIN soon?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>William Osborne, K5ZQ
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[Dx4win] OmniRig

[William Osborne]

Does anyone know if support for OmniRig will be added to DX4WIN soon?

 

Thanks,

William Osborne, K5ZQ

  wosborn...@gmail.com

207-205-9565

 

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[Dx4win] OmniRig support 'for' DX4WIN

[Steve Jackson]

I have downloaded the latest version of PstRotatorAZ and have been able to use 
the embedded OmniRig 'gateway' within PstRotatorAZ to tandem other devices with 
DX4WIN.

The PstRotatorAZ program not only acts as a 'shim' between DX4WIN and my rotor 
controller, it also has the ability to monitor a VSP port off my radio (in this 
case, a K3) and this creates an OmniRig instance to talk to other software that 
uses OmniRig.

PstRotatorAZ is 15 euro, about US$21 or so currently.  

http://www.qsl.net/yo3dmu/index_Page346.htm


The program has other nice features, such as direct downloading of the FCC 
database for lookups, easy to use rotor memories, point-and-click rotor 
control, and so forth.
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Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Radivoj Kar, F6GNZ]

Hi,
I have had a success to synchronize mu SDR RX and Icom IC706 using Omnirig and 
RigSync and having DX4WIN to control IC706 via MicroHAM Router (IC706/DX4WIN on 
CAT1 and Omnirig/IC706 on CAT2). Unfortunately, there was no way to have DX4WIN 
control the SDR RX, which would make this setup perfect.

Trying to do same with FT1000MP instead of IC706: many sync delays, MP timeouts 
due to poliing conflicts which couldn't be handled by the "old" binary CAT 
protocol of the MP. 

Everything would have been better if DX4WIN had integrated OmniRig support !
73, Radi F6GNZ





Le Vendredi 13 décembre 2013 10h09, William Osborne  a 
écrit :
 
Has anyone had any success using the OmniRig software to interface your rig
>to two programs needing access to the rig cat port at the same time, for
>example DX4WIN and a Pan_Adaptor programs?  I do not think Dx4Win will
>operate with it but the SDR-Radio folks are telling me it will?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>William Osborne, K5ZQ
>
> wosborn...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Andy - UA0BA]

Hello !


Has anyone had any success using the OmniRig software to interface your rig
to two programs needing access to the rig cat port at the same time, for
example DX4WIN and a Pan_Adaptor programs?  I do not think Dx4Win will
operate with it but the SDR-Radio folks are telling me it will?
Thanks,
William Osborne, K5ZQ


I do not know what you are using the radio.
With my K3 works well LP-Bridge:

http://www.telepostinc.com/LPB.html

Good luck!
73! de Andy/UA0BA
in Norilsk ( RDA KK-66 )
ua...@yandex.ru

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INDXA  # 4314
GDXF# 847
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Re: [Dx4win] OmniRig

[Kostas SV1DPI]

Dx4win UNFORTUNATELLY does not support omnirig. I am asking for omnirig 
support the last 3-4 years... Anyway maybe a solution use a software (I 
am sure you will find a number of the to internet) to split the real com 
port (this whether the radio is connected) to 2 virtual ports: one for 
dx4win and one for omnirig. Personally I have not tried this solution 
because I use a microkeyer which already uses virtual ports and I am 
afraid that using another program doing the same will confuse my computer.


73 Kostas SV1DPI

Στις 12/12/2013 7:50 μμ, ο/η William Osborne έγραψε:

Has anyone had any success using the OmniRig software to interface your rig
to two programs needing access to the rig cat port at the same time, for
example DX4WIN and a Pan_Adaptor programs?  I do not think Dx4Win will
operate with it but the SDR-Radio folks are telling me it will?

  


Thanks,

William Osborne, K5ZQ

   wosborn...@gmail.com

207-205-9565

  


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[Dx4win] OmniRig

[William Osborne]

Has anyone had any success using the OmniRig software to interface your rig
to two programs needing access to the rig cat port at the same time, for
example DX4WIN and a Pan_Adaptor programs?  I do not think Dx4Win will
operate with it but the SDR-Radio folks are telling me it will?

 

Thanks,

William Osborne, K5ZQ

  wosborn...@gmail.com

207-205-9565

 

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Re: [Dx4win] omnirig

[Kostas SV1DPI]

I don't mean that dx4win has any weakeness in rig control.
I just said that i read some problems (possibly not related) abt rig 
control.
After these emails i thought that it is time to think for a new feature: 
omnirig.

That doesn't solve any possible problem but we have another choise.
omnirig is a freeware program that controls a rig. Dx4win must have an 
additional radio choise. So instead of icom 756 you will choose omnirig and 
in omnirig program will choose icom 756. Something like ve7cc program works 
with clusters. This feature will help anyone wants to run multiple programs, 
written by different authors in different languages, to control the radio 
via Omni-Rig at the same time. Beside all these when a new radio must be 
supported we will not need to wait for a new dx4win upgrade because we will 
have a second choise: omnirig ; at least until the new dx4win version. 
Finally it is just a thought or request for a feature and nothing less or 
more.

73
Kostas sv1dpi
PS sorry if my english are not so good and made a misunderstood.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Sharred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ON4AOI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kostas SV1DPI'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] omnirig



Guy

Kostas was not asking about support for the Ten Tec Omni; rather that 
DX4WIN

uses some software called "OMNIRIG"  to do universal rig control; as a
loadable software module ?

I understood his question to be referring to many weaknesses of DX4WIN and
rig control ?

I hope I did understand this properly; I have quoted from Kostas below:

"But maybe it's time Paul and dx4win supports omnirig, a free cat control
program. It would be an
alternative in every case... Either for a new rig or even to check if 
there

is a problem in dx4win or in your radio (this can be done and today)."


73

Dave
G3NKC








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RE: [Dx4win] omnirig

[Dave Sharred]

Guy

Kostas was not asking about support for the Ten Tec Omni; rather that DX4WIN
uses some software called "OMNIRIG"  to do universal rig control; as a
loadable software module ?

I understood his question to be referring to many weaknesses of DX4WIN and
rig control ?

I hope I did understand this properly; I have quoted from Kostas below:

"But maybe it's time Paul and dx4win supports omnirig, a free cat control
program. It would be an
alternative in every case... Either for a new rig or even to check if there
is a problem in dx4win or in your radio (this can be done and today)."


73

Dave
G3NKC



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RE: [Dx4win] omnirig

[ON4AOI]

Hi Kostas and others,
Paul and I discussed the problems with the OMNI VII
Earlier this week but we didn´t have one to test with,
The mayor problem with this rig is the commands that
Tentec use (example |=CR - vertical bar = carriage return)
Since no other radio use these shortcuts or whatever you call them
They are not recognized in DX4WIN (for the moment being)

After reading the last mail this morning I drove 300 KM 
To pick up a omni VII from a friend to debug all the possibilities
With Paul. (maybe later today or this week) 

Since I didn´t have the original supplied serial cable brought with me
I took a straight (working) serial cable like they write in there manual,
But this doesn´t work !! (works ok with my LP100A) tried with
several programs.
Got it working with a trusted USB to serial converter where I can arrange
the pins
Only 5 connections are needed btw.
(If I wasn´t smarter I could have start yelling stupid programs
They never work etc etc).
Most of the time the problems with radios or other connected items 
is not software related but a hardware problem.
I had 10 or even more(different brands) USB to serial adapters but only one
brand
Does the job 100% correct. 
With hyperterminal and a loopback dongle you can check if all your hardware 
Is working perfect.  


BTW Kostas A serial port in your computer can only be used 1 time.
Dx4win checks if available and use it if configured in your preferences
otherwise it gives you a message not available etc.

Back to the OMNI VII now and see what can be changed in the different
rigfiles I have from
Some users (K5NA-G4RQI)

GUY ON4AOI  


   

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Namens Kostas SV1DPI
Verzonden: zaterdag 15 november 2008 22:54
Aan: REFLECTOR dx4win
Onderwerp: [Dx4win] omnirig

i have seen that many have problems one or other way with rig control. 
Dx4win is not the problem the most of the time. But maybe it's time Paul and

dx4win supports omnirig, a free cat control program. It would be an 
alternative in every case... Either for a new rig or even to check if there 
is a problem in dx4win or in your radio (this can be done and today). 
Besides this someone will have the ability to run 2 programs which both 
support omnirig the same time... Just a wish see omnirig here 
http://www.dxatlas.com/omnirig/

Kostas sv1dpi

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Stepansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win doesn't recognize the rig


> For whatever reason, my newly installed DX4Win 7 won't see my rig.  I had 
> no
> problem with version 6, but I've seemingly tried everything and it won't 
> go.
> I'm running this through RigBlaster PRO.  All the connections appear to be
> fine (nothing changed between the time my old computer went bye-bye and 
> this
> one).  I'm connected from Serial In/Out A to COM1.  Rig control on the
> Rigblaster is connected to CI-V remote jack on the 756 PRO II.  Here's the
> set up under the Preferences/Radio tab:
>
>
>
> Type - Icom 756 PRO II
>
> Address - 64 (I've verified the address on the rig screen)
>
> Baud - 9600
>
> Com Port - COM1
>
> Poll Rate - 5000
>
> Max Tries - 6
>
> DTR High - Off (When I leave this on the rig keys continuously)
>
> RTS High - Off (When I leave this on the PTT is on continuously)
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> 73, Joe KQ3F
>
>






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RE: [Dx4win] omnirig

[Joe Stepansky]

Oh, make no mistake, I'm not saying DX4Win is the problem.  In fact, I just
tested CW and PTT in DX4Win via the same COM1 that the rig control is
supposed to be on, and they both worked just fine.  

I'm going to pull out my old CI-V box, just in case the problem is with the
RigBlaster. 

73, Joe KQ3F

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kostas SV1DPI
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:54 PM
To: REFLECTOR dx4win
Subject: [Dx4win] omnirig

i have seen that many have problems one or other way with rig control. 
Dx4win is not the problem the most of the time. But maybe it's time Paul and

dx4win supports omnirig, a free cat control program. It would be an 
alternative in every case... Either for a new rig or even to check if there 
is a problem in dx4win or in your radio (this can be done and today). 
Besides this someone will have the ability to run 2 programs which both 
support omnirig the same time... Just a wish see omnirig here 
http://www.dxatlas.com/omnirig/

Kostas sv1dpi

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Stepansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win doesn't recognize the rig


> For whatever reason, my newly installed DX4Win 7 won't see my rig.  I had 
> no
> problem with version 6, but I've seemingly tried everything and it won't 
> go.
> I'm running this through RigBlaster PRO.  All the connections appear to be
> fine (nothing changed between the time my old computer went bye-bye and 
> this
> one).  I'm connected from Serial In/Out A to COM1.  Rig control on the
> Rigblaster is connected to CI-V remote jack on the 756 PRO II.  Here's the
> set up under the Preferences/Radio tab:
>
>
>
> Type - Icom 756 PRO II
>
> Address - 64 (I've verified the address on the rig screen)
>
> Baud - 9600
>
> Com Port - COM1
>
> Poll Rate - 5000
>
> Max Tries - 6
>
> DTR High - Off (When I leave this on the rig keys continuously)
>
> RTS High - Off (When I leave this on the PTT is on continuously)
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> 73, Joe KQ3F
>
>






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[Dx4win] omnirig

[Kostas SV1DPI]

i have seen that many have problems one or other way with rig control. 
Dx4win is not the problem the most of the time. But maybe it's time Paul and 
dx4win supports omnirig, a free cat control program. It would be an 
alternative in every case... Either for a new rig or even to check if there 
is a problem in dx4win or in your radio (this can be done and today). 
Besides this someone will have the ability to run 2 programs which both 
support omnirig the same time... Just a wish see omnirig here 
http://www.dxatlas.com/omnirig/


Kostas sv1dpi

- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Stepansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: [Dx4win] DX4Win doesn't recognize the rig


For whatever reason, my newly installed DX4Win 7 won't see my rig.  I had 
no
problem with version 6, but I've seemingly tried everything and it won't 
go.

I'm running this through RigBlaster PRO.  All the connections appear to be
fine (nothing changed between the time my old computer went bye-bye and 
this

one).  I'm connected from Serial In/Out A to COM1.  Rig control on the
Rigblaster is connected to CI-V remote jack on the 756 PRO II.  Here's the
set up under the Preferences/Radio tab:



Type - Icom 756 PRO II

Address - 64 (I've verified the address on the rig screen)

Baud - 9600

Com Port - COM1

Poll Rate - 5000

Max Tries - 6

DTR High - Off (When I leave this on the rig keys continuously)

RTS High - Off (When I leave this on the PTT is on continuously)



Any ideas?



73, Joe KQ3F









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